technology-discussion

[hard drift]

when there's still nothing to miss out on 😐

[sly elk]

ice did you get a new cpu?

i forgot 😄

[hard drift]

you're swapping to amd?

[sly elk]

i wonder if a 5950x would run acdsee photo studio faster >>

?

[hard drift]

so you're going to wait 4-6 years for 7000 series?

[sly elk]

isi it that old?

I mean it wouldn't surprise me lol

[dull garnet]

He's gonna buy a HD 7970

[hard drift]

lmao yes it will

gpus are about to boom

[late basalt]

How I feel considering I’m still running a 1050ti

Poor thing still running strong

[sly elk]

if nvidia said that, I'd believe

but if it's AMD

nope. not happening

[dull garnet]

The chad 1050 ti enjoyer

[sly elk]

every year: AMD fans: The new gen x is going to be 150% faster and MSRP starts at $300!

[hard drift]

i never said a brand smh

[dull garnet]

house catches fire

[hard drift]

i said gpus

[sly elk]

AMD: It's about as fast as Nvidia's last xx80 and it costs $200 more because some obscure mining currency uses it and they love it

[dull garnet]

Radeon VII

[hard drift]

amd has already caught up to nvidia, it's now just a matter of drivers/next gen

[sly elk]

Radeon VIII

and the bottom end is still as fast as an RX480

[hard drift]

i mean an rtx 3050 isn't that good either lol

both brands released a bad card for the low end

[dull garnet]

AMD just chose to further gimp them by making them 4x

[hard drift]

yeah, but no brand is immune to mistakes

[dull garnet]

[hard drift]

🤨

also ice, are you not checking amd.com for the x3d?

it's constantly going in and out of stock

they still have a store there

i cannot view it lol

it just changes to /us

🤨

hell no, i'd hate myself lol

what about my mannerisms says ontario?

how're you going to say that and not know smh

why would we fight 🤨

so you're saying my tongue is sharp?

i mean there's no need to sugarcoat/lie 🤷‍♂️

i'd still be honest 🤷‍♂️

[agile roost]

sexy baby

https://tenor.com/view/dress-up-gif-21389040

sun dress season coming up

[dull garnet]

Life is easier if you tell them what they want to hear

[serene radish]

I have a Dell Laptop and use a Corsair mouse, and the Corsair Service process keeps ending up taking huge amounts of memory, like 1GB-1.5GB and sometimes even higher. Anyone know what could cause that?
I just end up terminating the process which doesn't seem to affect anything so what is it even doing in the first place?
Also it somehow insists on running at 32 bit even though my OS is 64 bit.

[odd sand]

Okay.jpg ... Dock is acting up with flickering power delivery. I connect the c to a adapter clipped to the cord then used another a to c adapter and it works properly now...

My rum spilled on the laptop in my bag too so it's been a great day. Letting it dry and swab down with isopropyl and think it should be fine then

Dock wasn't spilled on so it's a different problem. Dell shittiness problem

[lost python]

fuck dell

[odd sand]

Hmm well sorta. With the double adapter it works as a pass-through but doesn't supply power. I used the dock for all 2 weeks of my trip just fine. It was slow charging but still worked

[lost python]

we are still struggling with random cutouts of keyboard and mouse inputs or keyboards spamming a key for a second
lots of people have it, wrote on dells forums. they still pretended until forever that the problem is just imagined and not real

[odd sand]

I'll still probably try to RMA it. Have to ask the IT guy if he wants me to ship it back to them or if I should RMA myself

[lost python]

hmm i am surprised how well autoHDR works in FFXIV

[dreamy chasm]

You aren't wrong

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/hudang-didin-molorant-gif-19494652

[winter cave]

could you guys help me with a usc C hub, I have no idea what USB C port my laptop has or if this hub will work with it

I have a uh...

ROG Zephyrus G14

it has two type c's and i got no idea what each one is :V

[modest moss]

there are different models of that, idk if they'll all have the same usb

[winter cave]

ROG Zephyrus G14 GA401QM_GA401QM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S8MKJ6Q/ref=crt_ewc_title_dp_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AOVIA3BFQYMH

this is the hub i was looking at

[modest moss]

1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort™ / power delivery / G-SYNC

I'll be honest and say I know very little about USB-C, wait for one of these other nerds to comment

[winter cave]

usb C seems like a mess

[sharp star]

it is

whoever came up with USB-C naming conventions should be slapped

[hard drift]

That’s just usb in general

It’s all a mess

[sharp star]

yes

[hard drift]

Generally speaking any hub will do fine as you shouldn’t need a ton of bandwidth. Only way to determine if there might be a problem is going by use case

[winter cave]

thanks bido

[sick edge]

But which usb c is for charging and which one is fordata transfer? =P

[hard drift]

they're usually labeled for it

and on the hub they linked it's labeled

[sly elk]

mhmmm it's either over-labeled or not labeled at all

[paper tusk]

usb-c hubs are kinda awful https://twitter.com/chx/status/1457848563199721472

Karoly Negyesi 💉💉💉 Слава Україні! (@chx)

Apparently some/many/most powered USB C hubs with Ethernet are causing serious problems when not connected to a computer. This is such an amazing interaction of various standards.

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Twitter · Nov 8, 2021, 11:12 PM

[winter cave]

i mainly want it for ethernet and not for power

[hard drift]

just ethernet?

[winter cave]

ethernet, usb, uhhh

yeah

[hard drift]

i mean you'd be better off getting a usb hub for the usb ports and then using the usb C solely for ethernet

just to avoid problems

[winter cave]

not really conceivable considering the amount of usb stuff i need

[hard drift]

🤨 how much do you need lol

wanting ethernet and a bunch of usb is asking for problems purely from a bandwidth standpoint

[winter cave]

KB, M, mic, controller, audio dac

[hard drift]

one hub would cover that

[winter cave]

just wouldve been convenient to have it all connect at once on one thing

since i take my laptop out

[modest moss]

it's mad that laptops no longer come with actual ethernet

[sick edge]

HP likes it sleek... so...

The ehternet cable must go.

[hard drift]

i mean it should work considering you won't be utilizing the full 10Gbps but yeah, it's really sad that a laptop of that caliber doesn't have a built in port

[winter cave]

mine didnt come with a camera

guess i could use that sometimes

[sick edge]

That's a good thigng...

[hard drift]

laptop cameras are shit anyways lol

[sick edge]

^

[winter cave]

it helps cuz

I dont face my screen

[sick edge]

I usually tape 'em

[winter cave]

Im not using my laptop's screen

im using a monitor

[sick edge]

this has hung with me for a while

[hard drift]

that sag....

[sick edge]

tearing finally happening but it was always gonna happen

I mean... what would you have me do about it? XP

[hard drift]

no it wasn't

[sick edge]

Yes it was!

[hard drift]

brace it to the other cable

[sick edge]

It's the same rubber the old s4's had.

[hard drift]

put electrical tape over it too lol

[sick edge]

That stuff would go through yellow and blue and then tear eventually.

Bruh... I mean, that slows it down but I dont' have any so...

[hard drift]

lol

[sick edge]

My s4 cable had...

a combo of chopsticks, duct tape, and electrical tape

[winter cave]

technology sucks

i had to buy an earphone jack dongle

and im mad i had to

cuz my bluetooth earbuds battery are breaking

[sly elk]

that dongle hanging off there like that

[hard drift]

this is why you buy an iem and get a cable to put in it

[sly elk]

that's everything I hate about laptops right there in one picture

[winter cave]

I have an IEM, thats why im getting hte dongle

:V

[sly elk]

well, maybe not everything

[sick edge]

;~;

[hard drift]

a dongle for what

[sly elk]

the janky cooling systems, the battery life that is an utter lie

[sick edge]

Why you hating...

[winter cave]

my iphone

[sick edge]

It's been with me for years. ;~;

[sly elk]

nuh

[hard drift]

get a bluetooth cable for it

[sly elk]

infinite your laptop looks fine lol

[sick edge]

Oh no it doe4sn't.

[winter cave]

I dont wanna deal with batteries

hence going back to wired

[sick edge]

I took out the battery 4 weeks ago. XD

[winter cave]

or interference actually

[hard drift]

but it's so easy to buy another cable lol

[winter cave]

the clinic i go to regularly has tons of interference

[sick edge]

It runs off pure usb c charger.

[winter cave]

cuz of the big medical machines

[sly elk]

i just don't want to use a laptop as a main computer again for a while

[winter cave]

i cant avoid interference

[sly elk]

i like not using dongles :]

[sick edge]

It has been mine for 3 computers....

Funnily the other two never needed dongles.

This one does cause it's 1 USB and 2 usb c... o~O

[sly elk]

true

admittedly, it's kind of a draw though

either you have a dongle, or you have to unplug 5 things every time you move it off your desk

or you have one of those god awful docking stations

[sick edge]

I never got one.

Always wanted one

[winter cave]

I wish I had a docking station

[winter cave]

peak technology

[hard drift]

Laptops are just shit these days lol

[sly elk]

afaik they did work better though

because docking station ports usually just straight up have the interfaces forwarded

instead of relying on some usb-c or thunderbolt crap with bad drivers and sketchy chipsets

[paper tusk]

yeah might be easier to get a hub and a separate ethernet dongle

unless want to piss away money https://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Multimedia-Universal-Ultrabook-DS3900V2/dp/B00SOXNPS4

[hard drift]

Why… they’re workstations it makes sense

[sly elk]

wait there's a big company that uses lenovo still?

I thought everyone dumped them

shows what i know! XD

[odd sand]

Rip screen

The rest of the laptop was fine, but I guess it leaked into the bezel

I assume I'll have to cross-ship to our IT dept bc its govt-issue so I doubt they want me directly sending it into Dell for a replacement screen

[sick edge]

unlucky...

what is it?

[odd sand]

Dell business laptop. I was carrying a bottle of rum to a friends place for cinco de mayo and the cap popped off and presumably as I drove the car it sloshed out onto the back of the backpack and into the bezel

Was going to do some poking at a dashboard for work until the end of the day, but that got cancelled as we were drying the laptop fully before powering it on to see the damage heh

[sick edge]

Drunk laptop...

[sly elk]

Idk I hate the large precisions still

I’d rather have a memebook pro

But if it floats your boat, there are some plus sides to carrying around a boat anchor laptop

Iirc the ports on them aren’t the greatest though

[umbral moss]

USB-C, but what gen/version

is it PD capable?

what power level PD?

bitrate?

(I'm implying USB-C is fucking stupid and I hate the fragmented spec they ended up with because they didn't want to make a new USB revision number)

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-forgot-to-deliver-updated-arc-gpu-driver-by-the-end-of-april-despite-promising-one not looking too great for intel

[umbral moss]

poggin

intel competing with AMD for quality driver service

[royal forge]

@potent arrow laptop update

I dunoe how the fuck

They are ok with sending it in JUST bubble wrap

But

At this point im too tired

[umbral moss]

🤔

[royal forge]

This is like when ur dealin with a colleague thats so fuckin incompetent

Ur just like

Done

Like

[umbral moss]

I mean, if it arrives fucked it's their problem lmao

[royal forge]

Fuck this shit i dn wanna even bother anymore

[umbral moss]

it's in their interest to ship you a working product that they aren't responsible for damaging in shipment

[modest moss]

at this stage you want their packaging to be shit probably, so it breaks badly and you can get an insurance claim going and buy something better

[royal forge]

No point me reeing about it

Its like

https://tenor.com/view/little-girl-wave-bye-fearless-im-out-gif-16585880

5 bucks says they've actually not sent it

[modest moss]

maybe it'll be fine

[umbral moss]

100% chance they forgot about you and didn't start shipping it until you asked about it

"oh shit, yeah, we should have done that two weeks ago"

[royal forge]

They told me their shippin starts on the 5th

So i asked them on the 6th

I just dont know with em

At least newegg is SORTA organized

[potent arrow]

@royal forge lmfaaaaooo they definitely did not ship it untill you nudged it

Inb4 they replaced the easiest part in the laptop rather then actually diagnosing the motherboard

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1522605749104521218

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

Nvidia has been fined $5.5 million for hiding how many gaming GPUs were sold to crypto miners. The SEC found Nvidia had misled investors by reporting a huge boost in revenue related to “gaming," and hiding how much its success relied on the crypto market https://t.co/crVykHyjPb

Twitter · May 6, 2022, 3:54 PM

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/official-radeon-rx-6x50xt-series-gaming-performance-leaks-out-rx-6950xt-is-4-faster-than-rx-6900xt as expected, the good part is amd will probably surpass nvidia by far for efficiency this upcoming gen

[real edge]

seems like a way to raise msrp :<

[hard drift]

I mean it’s a different model

Slightly faster ram is all

Plus only raised price by like 50-100 dollars

[modest moss]

sounds pointless

[kindred brook]

shue is such a realist

he kills all hopes and dreams

just like my dad

shue is daddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrZDn1fwgKE

shue went for milk

and then had a new family

[modest moss]

1-2% on the 6600 vs 6650

[hard drift]

I mean faster vram can have a huge impact but it doesn’t in this case because the increase is so small

[modest moss]

it's like Nhadala said, just a ploy to skim extra cash

[hard drift]

I mean it’s not like they discontinued other cards so that’s atleast a plus

[modest moss]

'series refresh' so it has a newer release date and keeps the price high for no real world gains

it's scummy when any manufacturer does that

[hard drift]

Well anybody who is smart enough will know you can pretty easily overclock your vram to gain performance parity with the new stuff

But overclocking the new cards would of course net even more

[modest moss]

at least the 6750 has a vaguely meaningful boost of 6-8%

[hard drift]

I mean that’s still pretty eh lol

Newegg and such will probably slot these in at current msrp and reduce older ones

[modest moss]

real talk though, both nvidia and amd are shitty companies who will go in dry at any opportunity

[hard drift]

Yup

Intel would do the same if it could lol

[modest moss]

they're working on it

[hard drift]

They can’t even fulfill their promises lmao

They’re doing worse from a pr standpoint

They’ve delayed their gpus like 4 times and then they “released” them but only in certain countries and then promised drivers by the end of april and still haven’t released them

[modest moss]

not a shock

[hard drift]

Lol yeah

They really can’t catch a break. From 10nm to renaming nodes to appear up to date, delaying gpus, to now driver delays lol

[umbral moss]

love to see it

nvidia's done this before with the 10 series too

relied heavily on crypto to make it look like they can't keep gaming GPUs in stock, but they're just being bought out by miners

I, for one, am done with seeing the word "toxic" when it isn't referring to hazardous waste

[modest moss]

don't be toxic about my vernacular bruh

[hard drift]

We’ll see how next gen is

[sly elk]

LMAO

[kindred brook]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/6/23059930/nvidia-sec-charges-fine-settlement-gaming-gpu-crypto-mining

[dull garnet]

that's like fining me $1

[umbral moss]

$5.5 million is more of a warning shot to investors who are overbought on nvidia

nvidia shares are at least 50% overvalue since they only make money like this when crypto is big

[umbral moss]

EVGA has a steep discount on psus today, wonder if they know something we don't

[hard drift]

It’s probably because new psus with the new spec are coming

[modest moss]

@potent arrow this nerd came back, kyanche said he'll come back too

[hard drift]

[potent arrow]

IM EATING MY TOES

[modest moss]

tech regulars being drama queens today

[hard drift]

I didn’t leave because of anything smh

[modest moss]

you looked salty in #general-discussion and kyanche had a moment in #not-ffxiv-discussion

[hard drift]

Nah, I’m dealing with irl stuff, I couldn’t care less about ffxiv discussion and what they say

[modest moss]

Sarah messaged me and was like, did both bidori and kyanche leave

[hard drift]

What does this even mean

[dull garnet]

imagine posting outside this channel

[modest moss]

you have over 1k posts outside this channel

[dull garnet]

no i don't

[modest moss]

you sure do

[dull garnet]

must be the old tech channel

[modest moss]

this is that channel, just renamed

you haven't posted over 9k times in like 6 weeks

[dull garnet]

or have i

[modest moss]

exposed

oh shit

ok over 100 posts outside this channel

STILL SOME

IT COUNTS

126 is a lot.

[dull garnet]

sus

[sick edge]

ratio'd

There's NEW PSUs coming out?

[severe flax]

OK so some seller in Amazon had their shit bugged out, i'll keep you guys posted

Neutral outcome: i get my order cancelled and refunded
Worst outcome: i get an expensive paperweight

And then i get a refund from amazon

[lost python]

thats very poggers

[jaunty light]

Tru

[modest moss]

not a single chance you get it, waste of time tbh

[severe flax]

yes

[hard drift]

There was a new standard that was finalized recently pcie 5.0

[sick edge]

so im outdated already... sad.

[modest moss]

who cares, you have good parts, just play games

[sick edge]

....I do.. just sad. XP

I play two games at the same time. even

[modest moss]

so Ice

you spent a bunch of cash on a noctua

and you're already doing the liquid

and still haven't resolved the 3090

👍

ah

[hard drift]

it's not outdated since it's likely not to be required for a while

[jaunty light]

Good lord ontap takes an age to update

Partner node took 30 mins, the epsilon one is up to like 1h30m

This some microsoft loading bar ass shit. 40% complete, remaining 20 minutes

[royal forge]

Oh they defo would pull that shit

[royal forge]

Im convinced thats what happened

Ah well

We'll see i guess

Maybe i'll convince them to cover the shipping costs because they didnt do a good job the first round

[sly elk]

sorry, I did have a moment where I was tempted to say things that would get me 👢 but I left before I could

[jaunty light]

[jaunty light]

Technical problem my ass

[odd sand]

Technical problem aka they oversold heh

[agile roost]

Ooo nice!

Oh nvm

[sly elk]

oh here's an interesting one

monsoon made planar magnetic computer speakers back in the day

[dull garnet]

i still want to try some stax

[glass shoal]

Recommend you guys to buy 6600XT, I was afraid about temperatures and dbS but it's totally fine. Checked in Cyberpunk, Witcher 3 and some more graphics games and it's quiet and literally cold. Settings were naturally highest except Cyberpunk, there I was trying very high.

[dull garnet]

what res

more modestly powered video cards shouldn't run so hot tbh

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/stack-em-up-stack-stacking-digibyte-dgb-gif-20093164

[sharp star]

it's gonna be cold at 1080p and below

[real edge]

not for 1440p or higher

too weak

[jaunty light]

smh not even 8k

[glass shoal]

For me it's enough like for most of people here I guess, but that's fact - I didn't check 1440p

[dull garnet]

i'm sure its enough but is enough ever really enough when it comes to computer hardware

[jaunty light]

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3044810545/?refId=997a299e-a87f-4908-9723-602b4297d1a3&trk

this is so specific it's ridiculous

I understand why my coworker recommended I axe all the acronyms from my resume and if absolutely needed describe them

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/power-speed-jeremy-clarkson-power-and-speed-sped-and-power-gif-22930099

yea icehunter is like the king of COMPUTER POWER

SUPER/POWER

[jaunty light]

hell yeah I got wild 3 applications to JP companies

[sly elk]

y

do you want to work long hours?

[jaunty light]

ok, companies in JP

[sly elk]

do you want to work really long hours?!

[jaunty light]

actually one was a USG contractor the other 2 were JP

yes

if I get to live in JP that's a tradeoff I'm willing to make tbh

[sly elk]

i've heard before that it's a tradeoff in that you work longer hours, but still do the same amount of work

[jaunty light]

the one I kinda wanna land is in aomori

[sly elk]

so the work is easier to tolerate

[jaunty light]

that's all USG work anyways

[sly elk]

lol I have heard that US companies in JP tend to better accomodate someone willing to work the US way?

[jaunty light]

that one i linked above ^ most ridiculous questions process

[sly elk]

dunno how true that ends up being

[jaunty light]

it's just insanely hard to get USG jobs in JP because they almost always hve pre-reqs like 50mi radius / SOFA / residency

and that's before being DoD

I feel like the HR person is gonna get slapped for posting this though

RHEL Patches (RHELPTH) who the fuck

and I've never seen global c&c referred to as GCC lmao

[dull garnet]

I believe in price/performance :p

[sly elk]

RHELPTH?

redhat enterprise linux licensing. RHELL.

RHELL with this I'm installing centos

"it says here you know redhat. Can you show me how to fix this selinux problem?"

[jaunty light]

enable permissive mode and forget about it.. or disable

[jaunty light]

centos is dead!

[sly elk]

that's news to me 😦

but I haven't used it in a minute

[jaunty light]

I dunno how dead-dead it is, but it's EOL as of 2021

[sly elk]

sadness

[jaunty light]

microsoft "Dead" is X date + 10 years, so..

[sly elk]

I mean if there's still CentOS 8, I probably still would have to support it somehow XD

if I were doing the stuff that needed it

[jaunty light]

operationally i dont see the problem if they just use fedora or rhel

[sly elk]

gfe software "WE ONLY SUPPORT REDHAT 8.1"
"ok great. centos it is!"

[jaunty light]

the one thing that makes me mad is how obtuse the GUI for a distro tends to be

[sly elk]

I used to really mess with this one vendor

prior to us they never ran it on anything but bare metal machines

I did all kinds of awful stuff with their software and VMs and even docker images

[jaunty light]

I right click on the desktop and get the shell, cool (a longtime linux user told me this). in any other case, why is everything named so.. terribly

[sly elk]

and then they caught on and made their shit run on kubernetes and 'adapted devsecops'

lalalalala

[sly elk]

to be fair, a good deal of those naming constructs predate microsoft windows

[jaunty light]

cough

i also predate windows

😏

[sly elk]

this is one of those things that kinda grinds my gears when people who have only used windows try to use a mac or just about anything else ><

and they're like

"Why aren't there menus when I press alt, how come there's no registry? what do you mean I uninstall by dragging it to the trash?!"

[jaunty light]

oh that's NP I just mean naming conventions, which is universally trash

[sly elk]

meh

[jaunty light]

i deadass can't find the CLI on any distro through the "windows-key" menu

[sly elk]

linux distros still can't agree on wayland vs x11, or any of a plethora of other really stupid shit

that's odd

[jaunty light]

if you give me CLI on linux I can work perfectly fine

[sly elk]

pretty sure the gnome jump menu will accept 'terminal'

[jaunty light]

ider what the fuck was default on cent we had, I think it was KDE lol

[sly elk]

ahh i'm glad windows finally has a terminal app that lets you choose sane hotkeys

[jaunty light]

yeah it was KDE, and that shit sucks!

[sly elk]

who the fuck came up with shift+insert

oy. I need to give a newer version of KDE a shot

I haven't used it in forever

I briefly used xubuntu on my personal desktop and realized I hated it

reminded me of work too much

[jaunty light]

just a windows (mostly) person here, but when I click the "windows menu" and "utilities"

where is the shell

[sly elk]

idk where they put it

[jaunty light]

no i dont want your 60 flavors of K SOMETHING

[sly elk]

i always right click the desktop and click open terminal

xD

[jaunty light]

k-backup, fuck you. k-floppy, bitch is this 2000

[sly elk]

or just hit the windows key and type terminal

[jaunty light]

yeah that's what I do now if I need to use a kde

[sly elk]

or cmd+space on a mac

[sly elk]

it should work on gnome 3 just fine, too

[jaunty light]

mac I hope to never touch nor need to touch

for linux distros I just cannot GUI

[sly elk]

the nice thing on macs, is in the terminal, cmd+c/cmd+v are copy/paste

which is great.

ctrl+c works the way it's supposed to and I don't have to think about it

but docker on a mac is trash

[jaunty light]

I've spent any time ever in CLI for linux so I see no need for GUI, especially since I don't need any apps on it

[sly elk]

docker on windows is a shit show

WSL is

[jaunty light]

mwahahah using docker poor soul

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-simpsons-gif-23610453

but they tried harder than anyone else

[jaunty light]

I almost, slightly, lowkey, minimal, want to do K8S, but what's the point

[sly elk]

WSL 1 was this beautiful ambitious attempt to make something awesome

[jaunty light]

any ""devops"" job wants you to know every possible solution to the entier CI/CD

[sly elk]

and when faced with the limitations, they threw it all out to switch to something that will work better but just isn't as good 😦

and the worst part about WSL

is it's being used as a bargaining chip by slapdash IT shops that didn't wanna hire a linux person

"Why do you need linux? Really? REALLY? Come on man, just use WSL. Here's your fucking Dell"

[jaunty light]

EXPERT LEVEL IN ANSIBLE CHEF PUPPET SALTSTACK. K8S, DOCKER, RANCHER. DSC, PYTHON, TERRAFORM, AZURE DEVOPS et al

[sly elk]

"Oh yeah you'll need to submit a form for any library or tool you need because we use a standard image and hate our software devs"

[jaunty light]

that's gubmint

[sly elk]

interviewer doesn't know how to use half those things

not to mention

[jaunty light]

except we axed WSL because nobody knows how CIO will react to it

how do you STIG WSL? well.. you don't

[sly elk]

ansible, chef, puppet, saltstack are all pretty much the same thing

just slightly different ways of skinning a potato

[sick edge]

So many acronym's...

[jaunty light]

this is what i tried to tell one of our devops guys today and he didnt believe me

I said, learn one (part) or platform and you know everything

[sick edge]

Now Ijust feel basic for knowing beginner C--

[sly elk]

get used to this feeling

[jaunty light]

I don't give a fuck if you know how to write 5 different "languages" just that you can get the applied result

[sly elk]

C and C++ have been around long enough that nobody is an expert

meet enough people and someone will humble you with some scary ass tricks

[jaunty light]

it's like saying you don't understand networking until you learn every possible vendor, pls.

[sly elk]

and then make you feel kinda like an idiot

[jaunty light]

he did say that too though, expertise is kind of a misnomer overall

[sly elk]

yea 😦

we used to have a guy that made me feel like an idiot pretty often. he was like the best c++ guru

although I got annoyed at some of his merge requests

[jaunty light]

like saying 20yrs in X is expert. hmm, ok, I know plenty of people in IT whose 20 years amount to a helpdesk person's 1yr+some minimal college studies lol.

which just goes back to the "must have 15 years XP in X" then immediately follows up with "expert in CI/CD or IAC released within the last 5 years" <thing>

MSCE preferred! you want me to apply with windows server 2003 MSCE ,bitch?

[sly elk]

nd then you apply anyway

if it's IT-related and you know linux and the place uses linux in some capacity, you'll probably get the job

[jaunty light]

I dunno linux but I can google like a mfer!

[sly elk]

sometimes when I listen to our security group

[jaunty light]

TAB TAB TAB TAB!

[sly elk]

i think they just google new acronyms

to toss into their all hands slides

[jaunty light]

YUM? APT-GET? HELLO?

[sly elk]

but remember ther's threats out there

all kinds of threats

you're a prime target, do not pick up USB sticks in the parking lot!

we're going to enable MFA for NIST security bla bla bla here's another thing to make your work harder

[jaunty light]

The 69420 threat affects CVE-2022-40328 on the KYAINUX distribution, you must patch HTTPD as well as SSHD and enable FIPS-140-2 support!

[sly elk]

YESSSS

FIPS-140-2

the "we hate it when you use anything but windows because it's 'hard to secure'"

[jaunty light]

I'mma let you in on a secret, nobody knows shit from NIST other than actual, writing-the-standard engineers

I'm weighing if it's worth submitting a DISA ticket on like 5~ findings on their STIGs for ONTAP that are just wrong

they're either miswritten or the entity that deemed it good for release doesn't know ontap lol

[sly elk]

and the writing-the-standard engineers don't know the specs they didn't write

[jaunty light]

just do the setting, it's totally legit..

[sly elk]

-breaks everyone's computers-

[jaunty light]

p much the lowdown is that 5ish items call out using 140-2 mode, but it doesnt seem anyone knows what that actually means

does it regard storage and drives whatsoever? no

every check is HTTPS only

which includes, enable FIPS mode on SSL, and then disable SSL to use a FIPS 140-2 RNG.

you might guess that disabling SSL doesn't do anything to "make it use" 140-2..

https://www.stigviewer.com/stig/netapp_ontap_dsc_9.x/2021-07-28/finding/V-246961

External Web Services
Defines whether remote clients can access HTTP or HTTPS service content.

[modest moss]

It was listed at $59.99

[royal forge]

Laptop saga Q

Should i ping em on a weekend on ask about the vaunted shipping num?

Because they CLAIMED the couriers have it

So

Theoratically they ought to have the shipping num, no?

[hard drift]

not necessarily

they should be able to give you something saying that the courier has received it but tracking isn't always included

[royal forge]

True

[royal forge]

But this does FEEL sus to me

[hard drift]

i mean, they probably added bubble wrap to the box but who knows

[modest moss]

just message them on monday

[royal forge]

I guess.

[modest moss]

and like I said, at this stage you probably want them to package it badly so it gets destroyed and you make an insurance claim

[odd sand]

(Belated response) Our solutions architect is dealing with that atm. They will only issue him a Dell laptop, which makes it hard to architect solutions for the linux systems they have bc it's not linux, so it just takes longer. Another one is supposed to be an admin for some application, but doesn't have admin access bc whatever dept controls perms "doesn't think he needs it" ...

[frigid pewter]

IT LIVES

[odd sand]

Still got your Chaos?

[frigid pewter]

Sadly no this isn’t the original one I had

[dull garnet]

Imagine not wanting a deafening bleep

[sly elk]

the funny thing that I'm coming to a conclusion on

is I think a lot of apple fans are trashy people

maybe it's just the ones who go on reddit and defend apple endlessly against any criticism at all

I kinda noticed this on macrumors years ago though, so no real surprise

[dull garnet]

Then there are normal people that use apple hw because it is good :)

[odd sand]

The sad thing is, there are a lot of QoL features apple makes that are quite nice and innovative. But then they charge way too much and half their innovation is about fucking their customers over with no repairs and proprietary cables and connectors etc.

[dull garnet]

Nothing some more money can't solve!

[sly elk]

yea aside from gripes about random things

and lately that list has been growing for me lol

aside from that, I like their stuff and usually if I have to buy x, buying apple x is a safe bet

[potent arrow]

I love their arm innovation

But out of good conscious I can't support them

[sly elk]

yea I was complaining on /r/applewatch about the way the ECG app is so poorly laid out

and got called an idiot by 2 people

honestly I'm surprised it was only 2 people lol

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-jensen-deus-ex-wiki-suit-up-gif-11971630

[jaunty light]

$5499 to train for the OSEE how about no and 72hr exam

[sly elk]

my boss asked me if I wanted agile training

[jaunty light]

Yea! Brcome safe certified for munny

[sly elk]

:\

you'd be ashamed of me lol

the parent company paid for me to get the safe scrum master certification

I haven't bothered to do it yet

[jaunty light]

I should do that for brownie points

https://tenor.com/view/look-im-organised-post-it-notes-organization-gif-16294423

[potent arrow]

Fucking

FFXIV kept crashining

BECAUSE MY VAPE WAS PLUGGED IN

askldjlkdaslkjdas

[odd sand]

That makes no sense, and yet perfect sense given FF14's track record for random crashes.

[jaunty light]

Stop vaping dradly chems

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/HL2MjpcGr7M @modest moss

[modest moss]

you're aroused by that, aren't you

[jaunty light]

when he takes out the 6 foot concrete vibrator

[odd sand]

Hank right now:

[jaunty light]

should I say it or will shue ban me

[modest moss]

say it and find out

[jaunty light]

alright

[jaunty light]

he's ready for that concretussy

[sick edge]

Don't vape in ff14

[sick edge]

Blake is dead

[sly elk]

i wonder when the next season is going to be anyway

[deep sapphire]

very

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[sly elk]

hank wears skirts?

[jaunty light]

yes

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/combat-skirt-rwby-whiterose-gif-25270494

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-lil-trolling-rwby-gif-21291909

[potent arrow]

It's a weed vape uwu

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-police-mcpolice-open-up-fbi-gif-21587513

[sly elk]

weed vapes are legal here

[sick edge]

Is that a mcdonalds short?

[sly elk]

watcha going on about?

[sick edge]

Is bountyhunter like the side job to his side job?

[jaunty light]

MAKKU DA! AITA KUDASAI

[deep sapphire]

buy me this

[jaunty light]

hm

[old jetty]

I miss wacky Rwby

[sick edge]

Is it all batman now?

its probably cause of all the dying

[potent arrow]

My DeWalt concrete saw broke :(

So now I'm cutting slabs with a ratial grinder

[deep sapphire]

DeFAULT

[potent arrow]

[modest moss]

this sounds very dangerous

but only because you said it

[potent arrow]

It's

Probably fine

[deep sapphire]

Diablo is the only saw blade you should buy

[potent arrow]

Just slow

[deep sapphire]

Diablo saw blades MMMMM OOOOH YEAH BABY

[modest moss]

so just quite dangerous

[potent arrow]

I use a concrete saw often surprisingly

[deep sapphire]

you ever seen those new blue drill bits they sell at Lowes

[potent arrow]

Ye

[deep sapphire]

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Spyder-10pc-Blue-Hex-Shank-Drill-Bit-Set/5000149349

I hate their website it does NOT like chrome

[potent arrow]

I actually use the generic bulk brand from the local hardware store

[deep sapphire]

good ol ace hardware

need that very randy specific bolt or screw?

random**

randy lol

[potent arrow]

Lol

I mean like big jobs

It's suffering when your Robertson rounds out

So being able to switch every few hundred screws or so is really nice

[deep sapphire]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M12-FUEL-12-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-Combo-Kit-2-Tool-W-Impact-Wrench-2598-22-2554-20/313167101

decent deal

[jaunty light]

Milwaukee trash

[deep sapphire]

fug u

[potent arrow]

I expect both of us to already have this stuff

[deep sapphire]

I only use M18 tools

[jaunty light]

Wheres a real man's tool

[potent arrow]

[jaunty light]

Gas powered drill

[deep sapphire]

banned in california

[potent arrow]

I have a gas SDS lol

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/865328938107666442.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

zoink

thanks

[potent arrow]

Having a good SDS is really nice

Does Milwaukee have a fuel SDS?

[deep sapphire]

yeah

[odd sand]

I think my friend got a set like that while I was visiting

He got a Milwaukee combo set, probably that one

[deep sapphire]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-in-SDS-Plus-Rotary-Hammer-Tool-Only-2912-20/315444524

home depot has regular deals and if you already have batteries you can do the home depot hack

[potent arrow]

Oh damn they do lol

[deep sapphire]

I just got the M18 impact driver with 3.0 battery for 150 but im returning the battery

70 bucks for the tool

[odd sand]

I've got an M18 impact driver for swapping my car wheels

[deep sapphire]

impact wrench?

[odd sand]

impact wrench yeah sorry

[deep sapphire]

the driver might be able to do it but im sure the bit would hate you for it

[odd sand]

For a drill I just have some cheap corded one bc I almost never use a drill

[deep sapphire]

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-M18-FUEL-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-Cordless-1-4-in-Hex-Impact-Driver-Tool-Only-2853-20/305059614

deal still going if you have M 18 batteries already

[odd sand]

How do you know they will take the battery back? Or do you just sell it on amazon then or something?

[deep sapphire]

you just bring it back to the store and ask to return it

only bring the battery

it works 90 percent of the time

[odd sand]

On the receipt won't it say like battery $0.00 though? heh

[deep sapphire]

no, after discount at the bottom it d oes

it clears it out at the end

people do it all the time

[odd sand]

I believe you, but I still dont see how the receipt wouldnt make it hard to do that. If it was like 150.00 + 80.00 battery - 80.00 discount

They don't look at the discount when they let you return it and only look at the 80.00? heh

[deep sapphire]

at the top of the invoice it lists retail price for free tool, at the bottom it lists discount

the items ship separately

[odd sand]

I suppose maybe worst-case you get store credit

[deep sapphire]

ive done it once before, they dont really care

im waiting for fathers day to get the CP 3.0 batterie s

they will probabl y have 2 pack kit for 60 bucks

god t hese wrist braces make it so hard to type

[odd sand]

My battery says Red Lithium XC 54Wh

[deep sapphire]

you probably have 5.0 bat

they include those in the kits

its a good battery nothing wrong with it

3.0 is the small high output one

has as much power as 5.0 at half the size, nice for compact M18 tools

[modest moss]

plural? both are hurt?

[deep sapphire]

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Batteries-and-Chargers/M18-Batteries-and-Chargers/48-11-1835

yeah

I have to wear 2 of them

they keep smacking t he space bar

[modest moss]

oof I thought it was just the right

[deep sapphire]

I will be okay thanks bb

[odd sand]

Mine is a couple years old at this point, so I guess they started adding the amp hours onto the labeling later

[deep sapphire]

yeah like 4-5 years ago I think

[odd sand]

I just don't know what I would do with an impact driver that my ryobi cordless screwdriver doesnt handle just fine

[deep sapphire]

"red lithium" was introduced around then

they are nice for driving in things into walls quickly

but yeah if you dont really do much then no point

[odd sand]

Maybe if my friends want help with remodeling heh

They've been debating whether to add onto the house or find another place

[deep sapphire]

batteries look different in the UK

[modest moss]

because we have chonky mains power probably

[deep sapphire]

I like the design of your outlets

its pretty clever

US is terrible lmao

[odd sand]

Go to Japan where they don't believe in grounding! /s

[deep sapphire]

I think half of Asia uses the NA outlet

[odd sand]

PITA my one trip bc I needed to hit up yodobashi camera for a 3 to 2 pin adapter for my laptop

[sly elk]

hmm?

the round euro outlets pretty much have no way to slip out of the socket

if you have 30 year old outlets they tend to just let plugs slide out

[deep sapphire]

looks like Japan uses our outlet?

[sly elk]

japan does use it, yep

[sick edge]

This plug is cute

[odd sand]

Maybe it was just older buildings, but everywhere I went they only had the very oldschool 2-prong outlets

[deep sapphire]

Japanese outlet

[sly elk]

lol yep

a lot of outlets in my house are that stupid variety

note the lack of a 3rd prong

my favorite are the ones where the 3rd prong is there but it's not connected to anything

[deep sapphire]

oh god

[sick edge]

I mean.. tahnks for telling me but I wont even know if it is or not so...

[deep sapphire]

huh

[odd sand]

Are you in the US kyanche? bc that is so old it looks like an electrical fire waiting to happen

[deep sapphire]

@jaunty light

[sick edge]

It deoends on the house

[sly elk]

I've got better hahaha

[deep sapphire]

yeah I think in the 70s or 80s they required type B

[sick edge]

you think homeowners would PAY for their house to be inspected?

psha no.

[odd sand]

My friend had to rewire the house they bought when they moved in bc shit was all from like the 50s or something and wouldn't run modern kitchen appliances lol. Also had a 240V put into the garage for their EV

[hard drift]

Thot

[deep sapphire]

bidori

[hard drift]

What

I’m dying smh

[deep sapphire]

are you

FUCK TYPING IS SO HARD

[hard drift]

I feel like it lmao

[deep sapphire]

IM STEPPING AWATY

AS;OIPLKHNJDOPAQSIHNDFNASF

[hard drift]

My coworker kicked me in the face

[modest moss]

wtf

[modest moss]

intentionally?

[hard drift]

Idk, I didn’t ask i just went back to work

[sick edge]

sjowing pff the roundhousd

[hard drift]

My glasses are smudged now though smh

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-fight-film-charlie-day-im-sorry-what-excuse-me-gif-6046518

[hard drift]

No scratches from falling off luckily lol

Just a headache/worse back pain

[odd sand]

Speaking of outlets, I need to get my landlord to check out the kitchen island. The GDCI outlet keeps randomly tripping even with nothing plugged in and makes it so i cant use them to charge my phone or such bc dunno if it will randomly turn off lol

[hard drift]

Idk i am too busy working lol, took my 10 minute break

My coworker got instant karma though lmao they hit their leg after doing it and hurt their leg badly

[odd sand]

I'm mad I couldnt go biking today. Was like 65 and sunny perfect day to go for a bike ride and go to the farmers market, but I hurt the outside of my knee running around yesterday. The bumpy bone on the outside of your knee/leg, so I was hobbling. Figured wouldnt be conducive to walking around at the market

[sly elk]

there's one outlet in my kitchen that can run the microwave and/or the kettle or whatever other electric thing I want to run

if i use the others it'll trip the breaker because all the house lights are connected to it lmao

[odd sand]

There's only 1 outlet on the kitchen circuit? Then again with those outlets I am somehow not surprised

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-nazarick-albedo-gif-21546168

[odd sand]

Usually it's 1 circuit for the fridge, one for the stove, one for all kitchen outlets

And all kitchen outlets have to be GDCI

[sick edge]

This is why exercise is bad.

[odd sand]

I think biking itself would have been fine, but not the walking around

Okay I keep putting off getting dinner and I think they close at 8 and my stomach is imploding

[sly elk]

I've never tripped the breaker the fridge is on

and this, compared to the last house we rented, has much much better electrical systems

the last house I was 100% positive was ready to catch on fire

[odd sand]

kyanche lives in Angola, gotcha.

[sly elk]

i feel sorry for whoever bought the place after we moved out

the landlord was a sheister lol

[odd sand]

Usually there is an inspection, but in this market ppl have been forgoing the inspections so its a good time for shysters to ply shitty houses lol

[ionic condor]

is there a place or server so i can i get my hand held on installing mods?

[odd sand]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nebulaprojectors/comments/u8rbij/anker_power_conference_spring_2022_recap_nebula/

That's neat. It's a ceiling light, but then has the projector mounted in it that works even in small rooms

That way you can kick back and make your favorite ramen while watching

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-noctua-geforce-rtx-3080-card-pictured-features-quad-slot-cooling-solution four slot card

[zealous wolf]

makes sense cause Noctua fans are chad tier..

[odd sand]

New Anker 10k mah battery with builtin Qi charging

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/wpDoOQ-LAn4

[sick edge]

;~;

Did I buy at the wrong time?!

I thought they'd stop at 3070...

[sly elk]

i like this dude's screen:table ratio

[sick edge]

Off the edge? XD

[sharp star]

https://www.macrumors.com/2022/05/07/apple-director-of-machine-learning-resigns/

[sly elk]

this looks so friggin good

[sly elk]

yea I mentioned that on here twice today xD I think it was in #not-ffxiv-discussion though

I'm still impressed how much more optimistic the comments in hackernews were

macrumors just roasted the guy lmao

[sharp star]

lol

[sly elk]

then again

[odd sand]

I'm shocked macrumors would go balls deep on apple fanboyism no matter what

[sly elk]

macrumors' forum crowd has some people with very poignant opinions

i think /r/apple does go balls deep on apple fanboyism no matter what though xD

and it's hilarious to watch

[odd sand]

Oh hey, Ford is learning!

Why did they think a monocolor front clip was appealing looking?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/303701342470537218/972749673527914496/unknown.png

[sly elk]

"nice new camry"

[odd sand]

@deep sapphire Why haven't they fired this designer yet for being competent?

It's actually a hatchback, so from the front view there it looks like a sedan, but its actually an SUV

[deep sapphire]

wtf is this

new mach e?

probably just a lemon from the factory that nobody caught

the V6 they put in those are so old I'd have a hard time finding them a failing issue

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzBdPr9Cbh8

TOYOTA NEVER BREAKS DOWN

[deep sapphire]

LOL

[sly elk]

we're just sour because we don't own Toyotas

well, Hank will soon enough I guess 😄

[deep sapphire]

im getting pretty tired of fixing my truck

shit is so rusted out at this point

I have to replace most of the suspension now, im just done with it

might just lease something

[sly elk]

imagine if you had bought a t100 of that vintage instead

[deep sapphire]

ha, my uncle has some old small toyota truck

[deep sapphire]

thing cant be any bigger than a camry of that age

[sly elk]

idk

old trucks were small

[deep sapphire]

well it is 31 years old and lived in Minnesota its whole life

it still drives fine, it just needs new suspension

its all rusted out

[odd sand]

Yes, the 2022 refresh of the Mach E ditches the monocolor grill.

[deep sapphire]

so they put a grill pattern that is supposed to fool who exactly? god ford seriously designs the ugliest vehicles

[odd sand]

I think it looks way better than the original 2021 version.

[jaunty light]

PLANT SPOTTED

truly inefficient desk usage!

[deep sapphire]

I mean it gets rid of the handle bar stache which is nice

[jaunty light]

i need a desk mat that is massive, for my 40% chiclet keyboard

[odd sand]

People just aesthetically expect a grill on a car. Some of the EVs get away without one, but a lot of them have a faux grill

[jaunty light]

why you hatin

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

also im not sure, but i put 91 and now my idle is smooth as a cucumber

[deep sapphire]

I would rather they used a fake grill with a flat backing that redirected wind than a big flat spot that is going to attract nothing but bugs and rock chips

[deep sapphire]

triton

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

maaan I heard my house making cracking sounds

but I didn't feel any shaking

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

"What's the compression ratio?"
whatever the truck feels out of the factory, we dont rate it.

[odd sand]

Big flat spot you say?

[deep sapphire]

nice honda /s

[sly elk]

yea I'm not really feeling the mach e design

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/5N4Sccn.png

someone signed off on that?

[jaunty light]

wait holy shit

lmao

[sly elk]

that's pretty typic unfortunately

[odd sand]

Then you have whatever this design is from VW

[jaunty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJHxn15_84

[deep sapphire]

looks like those speaker covers they put on the ceilings

[deep sapphire]

MOMMY MILKERS

lmao

[sly elk]

that's a volkswagen!?

it looks like a ford escape lmao

[odd sand]

I'll see if I can get a closer picture, maybe I misread the badge on the front from that distance

[deep sapphire]

ANGRY HEADLIGHTS

[sly elk]

ANGRY

[deep sapphire]

IM PISSED

[sly elk]

yea that's in a "I'm angry at ya son! .. hehe" kinda way

here

[deep sapphire]

RAWR

I kinda liked the 2018-2022 front end on the Silverado

[odd sand]

Actually it turns out it's an MG Motors

[deep sapphire]

everyone hates it

but I think its cool

[jaunty light]

headlights so damn ugly

[odd sand]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_Motor

[jaunty light]

chevy really just cant make a good looking truck

[deep sapphire]

says the ford guy

[sly elk]

imho nobody out angrys toyota

[deep sapphire]

[odd sand]

Apparently Australia is getting flooded with Chinesium EVs next year

2 other EVs by some company called BYD out of China too

[sly elk]

but what about this thing

[deep sapphire]

KILL IT

[sly elk]

i thought these were bad but hyundai made one even uglier

[deep sapphire]

THE CHEROKEE WAS SO BAD

[odd sand]

Probably stuck on a curb somewhere

[deep sapphire]

wasnt the Cherokee one of the most unreliable new cars made in ages lmao

[sly elk]

look there's an important rule

never buy anything from dodge/chrysler/jeep with FWD

[deep sapphire]

do they even still make it

[sly elk]

or at least, a sideways engine

it's almost certainly junk whatever it is

oh it was the kona

imho the kona out uglied the cherokee

[jaunty light]

Your password should be difficult to guess and follow these guidelines: It is not case sensitive (that is, upper and lower case versions of letters are treated the same).

[sly elk]

but the grille was less annoying at least

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

#soul

[sly elk]

it's like howard from happy days

[deep sapphire]

Jeep Comanche

what a sexy truck

[sly elk]

american motors jeeps

how about a scrambler?

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

or a jeepster

[deep sapphire]

love the wheels

oh man

that is badass

got the AMC colors going

[sly elk]

ya know

[odd sand]

Never seen a Jeepster before

[sly elk]

I think modern trucks really feel that kinda design language hahaha

the tall tough macho stuff

[odd sand]

For sure. 90% of people have no need for the trucks they buy from a use-case perspective. It's all dick-wagging

[deep sapphire]

man bring back those cool paint jobs

[sly elk]

sadly it's a hard argument to make because 90% of people have no need for the vehicle they buy, period

[odd sand]

Nothing stopping you from getting a partial wrap

[sly elk]

when it comes to jeep, here's weird

they made a concept that I think ultimately became the 1st gen liberty

[odd sand]

Half Jeep, half Rangerover, All Ugly.

[sly elk]

but it's some weird cross between a wrangler and a liberty

[sly elk]

entirely ugly

[deep sapphire]

2000s Jeeps were bad

Liberty and Patriot were laughably bad in quality

[sly elk]

i'm not sure how I ended up with a wrangler or what drove me to buy another lol

[odd sand]

True, the SUV craze is a similar vibe, but at least most of those still get decent gas mileage

Granted, I can't talk THAT much bc my Stinger only gets 26-27 highway/24 combined heh

Part of that can be attributed to the AWD though

[deep sapphire]

24 is bad

I think I get maybe 8 in the city

[odd sand]

AWD twin turbo is a helluva drug

[deep sapphire]

I need to dump this piece of shit

[jaunty light]

hell yeah

[deep sapphire]

ew broke

I bet you use normal ryobi tools

[jaunty light]

when insurance is more than the vehicle

[odd sand]

Insurance for what? an H1 Hummer in Iraq?

[deep sapphire]

TURD

[deep sapphire]

honda has a cool logo for the motorbikes

[jaunty light]

[odd sand]

I don't understand the point of Nastruck when it's just a fiberglass shell on basically the same vehicle as nascar...

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

i'll just wait a little til my credit jumps to like 780 again

NFCU 10%+ for motorcycle lmao my ass

[sly elk]

shrug

[odd sand]

Paying 660/mo for my Stinger, but it's worth like 7k more than when I bought it so

[deep sapphire]

660

thats truck payment territory

[odd sand]

Yeah, I didn't put much down is why

[jaunty light]

i only plan on doing a 36-48 on the bike

which is $500

[deep sapphire]

yeah you edit that

stubby fingers