technology-discussion

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/OWz_1NGHgiE I love this guy

[modest moss]

HWID is the way to go, you end up with a legit windows key tied to your MS account, it just tells them that yes, you did indeed agree to the free upgrade and they go sure np

[deep sapphire]

If you used an OEM license it’s tied to a single motherboard only

Retail license has more flexibility

[modest moss]

hwid gives a key tied to account, not hardware, afaik

[deep sapphire]

Correct but it’s attached to the EFI

Usually it will let you swap out other components as long as the mobo is the same, I have read people say MS got mad after doing certain part swaps but it shouldn’t matter that much

Retail license allows you to detach it from an older PC and use it on new

You can manage it on your MS account

[odd sand]

No old system to use a key from? Only needs to be 7 or newer

[odd sand]

You have to tie the key to msa for the free upgrade tho right?

[modest moss]

actually we probably shouldn't be talking about this

[sick edge]

All I've had before now are laptops.. they're OEM. ;~; i was mad.

I was thinking of just flashing them to an SSD.. after buying an SSD flasher, probably

But nope. ;~;

Now I'll have to figure out how to drag over my cracked solidoworks.

[odd sand]

Fo one of mine I got a free msdn key from a friend kek

Why not? The upgrade is from Microsoft, it's legit

[sly elk]

i have 2 licenses now 😄

10 home oem from newegg and 10 pro from ms

[umbral moss]

windows insider preview builds use a special license that overrides your retail or OE key

I'm about 95% certain that insider builds don't bypass the windows key validation though

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

Wtf hipster shit is this

[umbral moss]

🤔

only one of those words is a beer word

[jaunty light]

What u dont drink a special one run only microbrew bought from a popup shop?

[sly elk]

was.. it on wheels?

did they have a license to make beer? XD

[jaunty light]

Who needs a license?

[sly elk]

i mean

was the beer made in a bathtub?

did they pisss in it?

[jaunty light]

Yes

[sick edge]

My friends all use theirs. ;~;

And some hipster bers are good.. so I've heard.

I don't really do beer so. =P

[umbral moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDe3BJRsVEM

[deep sapphire]

https://reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ue4jdb/rmad_a_faulty_6700xt_using_amds_fedex_return/

Another person sworn off from AMD

[deep sapphire]

Only obese people with ZZ Top facial hair drink micro brews

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/bigbang-top-bigbang-top-hat-bigbang-top-monster-mv-gif-20044100

[hard drift]

I mean if we go based off that you see possibly someone deterred from nvidia in here lol

[jaunty light]

Who wants ugly green in they system?

[deep sapphire]

I’m glad someone sent me an AMD card in Minnesota, I can’t wait to toss it off the overpass

[hard drift]

😔 i'm leaving

[jaunty light]

Goodbye :bidori:

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

Another one for you

[sly elk]

it's not like I haven't experienced glitches with every single nvidia card I've owned

including that tnt riva 2 that I had briefly before I RMA'd it

[modest moss]

skill issue

[deep sapphire]

How long is your beard

[umbral moss]

I remember killing my ti4200 trying to OC it to ti4600 speeds

that was fun

[sly elk]

hell

[deep sapphire]

Why would anyone want that

[sly elk]

i had fewer problems with my 5700xt than I do with my 3080ti 😄

nah

i think this is the last time i'm buying a dgpu for a while

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/beard-braid-gif-10741718

[umbral moss]

why not just choose to sit on a lit candle

[jaunty light]

Seems weak

[eager sandal]

is w11 stable now

[umbral moss]

why not just hose your food down in cop grade pepper spray

probably less toxic to eat

[jaunty light]

ya depends but 100% of sauces that use pepers from ed = trash

haven't had a single good sauce from him

what peppers u use

ghost and reapers taste like shit

[modest moss]

not even remotely surprised that Ice is like this with chilli

not one single iota

[jaunty light]

eugh smh reapers

a reaper cheesecake

[modest moss]

I believe it

I give Ice shit, but not because I think he's a bad guy

nice guy who makes ridiculous choices

that's what I meant with the chilli comment

you just can stop yourself going to extremes

[jaunty light]

u just have to be immune to capsaicin

I tried that and then I was arrested for harassment

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

“You like micro brews?”

[jaunty light]

I tried explaining to the cops I'm just a night owl, but they claimed running full speed at a random woman in an unlit park in a bad part of town wasn't helping my case

so ur sayin canadian cops witnessed u kidnap a woman then stopped u after the deed was done

[modest moss]

'send MS even more data'?

[sly elk]

did you set edge to the default browser on her phone?!

[modest moss]

every 25hrs

so MS get a day to analyse it lol

we all know how much they love data

[jaunty light]

just ignore any semblence of privacy and security and embrace it

[modest moss]

I wouldn't trust a built in safari vpn on mac os either

they're all the same

[jaunty light]

happy to report that i've trained the algorithm and only allow certain data to leak so now instagram thinks i'm an 18-24 female living in asia

[modest moss]

'some will only stab you 4 times not 5'

[sly elk]

dang

I'm reminded of a funny parody story thingy

about MS offering internet explorer anally

[jaunty light]

😳

[sly elk]

i can't find it anymore

it's a really really old satire story

[modest moss]

like I ain't gonna tell anyone to stop working for or using any particular tech corp, because they're all scummy af

[sly elk]

they also had one about a bank called total control bank

[boreal surge]

Thanks?

[modest moss]

sure, some are worse

[modest moss]

but that's not saying much

[jaunty light]

yeah those scifi movies are trash. first thing that happens when they get comms back to earth, is a flood of popups and HOT ALIENS IN YOUR QUADRANT NOW!

[sly elk]

damn

i finally found it

http://www.swans.com/library/art7/ddeck002.html

[jaunty light]

how about you go get some certs for me I'll give you some beer

I'll hate myself if I get the CISSP-ISSAP then immediately follow it up with VCDX

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-ballmer-microsoft-windows-developers-dance-gif-9638716

idk what to say about him as a business person

but he was pretty funny to watch

developers developers developers developers

[late basalt]

Dmca them?

[sly elk]

I mean he fucking nailed ms' stategy though hahaha

like the reason windows has a stranglehold on PC gaming

they supported developers first and foremost every time, all the time

nobody, i mean nobody, could hold a candle to directx and MS' legendary support

[late basalt]

It’s also not a closed off ecosystem

[sly elk]

LOL

[jaunty light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__n8084YAE

[sly elk]

right right

find me the open source directx

and the linux libraries for directx

lalalala yea right wtf are yhou talking about

[jaunty light]

this is what doing many lines of coke looks like

[jaunty light]

just write it yourself, free market, nerd

[sly elk]

people may harp on apple's "ecosystem" which I fucking hate. ecosystems are trash. but MS is the definition of "closed off ecosystem"

man

imagine a world where windows phone is the dominant mobile platform lol

[jaunty light]

amazing

poggers

love windows phone!

[late basalt]

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/sdk-archive

Linux can suck a donkey but though.

[sly elk]

are you the dude that runs windows iot on a raspberry pi

[jaunty light]

yeah buddy

embedded windows 10

[late basalt]

Nah, on a Samsung fridge

[jaunty light]

oh no this man worked on metro Ui

get him

https://tenor.com/view/marthastewart-knife-kitchen-sharp-martha-gif-22091919

can u rewrite sharepoint for me?

things should simply work the way I want them to work!

I should become a UX designer

I need to start writing down every interaction with UI that sucks balls because I have a really long list

walk into microsoft office day 1, find the metro UI department and

https://tenor.com/view/future-diary-mirai-nikki-yuno-second-sword-gif-6203382

uh oh

I see react

nope

[modest moss]

I'm too poor for windows 11

my peasant hardware isn't supported

[jaunty light]

are u the same shue that has a car from 1967 that has never had maintenance

[modest moss]

I don't drive, so no

I could probably get w11 to run, but I know when I'm not wanted

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/money-cash-anime-slap-ui-gif-22449224

2022 africa twin

[modest moss]

[jaunty light]

[modest moss]

I was about to say 'Honk that's kinda '

and then saw it wasn't you lol

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/GEIPBOScg3k

[modest moss]

order it

their loose bricks are expensive

more than 2x the price I pay from aliexpress

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/4403001

have ordered from this store a few times, my kid prefers using his imagination to sets usually

[jaunty light]

its just aliexpress bruh

[boreal surge]

Pray tell what is included in their definition of home

[jaunty light]

bdsm implements

[sick edge]

Things that go in a home.. or have a home, or need a home. All those answers track.

[dull garnet]

Aliexpress is pretty sus to be fair

[modest moss]

the only bad purchases I've ever made from there was a spare ps4 controller for my kid to use that died within 2 months and I got a full refund and a tshirt that didn't arrive and I also got a full refund

just don't buy anything big, read reviews, ez

[dull garnet]

Owned

[potent arrow]

LAST DAY AT THIS JOB

TIME TO BREAK EVERYTHING

We don't do MacBooks here

[modest moss]

you got fired for safety violations?

err I mean hi ilu Sarah

[potent arrow]

4 month workterm

[modest moss]

got something else lined up?

[dull garnet]

My last day at work too

[umbral moss]

buying more switches for his keyboard

[modest moss]

her*

but probably yeah

[umbral moss]

I didn't know if the name was decorative

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[potent arrow]

School

[potent arrow]

Yes

School is like this
4 month school
4 month internship
4 month school
Etc

[potent arrow]

You get me

[modern iris]

I wish I could buy switches for my keeb but I've already got the best switches.

Topre

I wish I had gone for a lower quality switch.

The next best are kailih box whites.

Particularly on the MK Typist keyboard

But now I've known perfection

And it's topre for life

[modest moss]

1080p with that hardware

[dull garnet]

What if you bought a 1080p screen

This one simple trick

[jaunty light]

720p tv

[sly walrus]

play xiv on a crt

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-crt-gif-5888830

[sly walrus]

my beloved

[dull garnet]

Isn't that an emac

Oh, I always thought that was an all in one

Seen a few dumped over the years

[boreal surge]

No this is https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

[sly elk]

nope. That's a 17" studio display

the emac did have a similar shape though

also a fair bit uglier inside

those 17" studio displays are especially annoying to use without the macs they were made for

the 15/17/20/22/23" LCD monitors also used the same connector. It was basically DVI-I with extra pins.

and those extra pins included like 90w of power or something

so if you changed your video card, you either paid a lot to get an apple version, or suddenly had to buy a power brick for your monitor

except that power brick couldn't power the CRT model

[dull garnet]

maybe ice's 3090 could power it

[sly elk]

man

i am not looking forward to future video cards lol

[jaunty light]

$300 in fans later

[dull garnet]

my mans out here drawing hot air from a 100c hotspot

[sly elk]

do you have fans on the right side as well? XD

tfw you want to unsubscribe from some junk email but your pihole blocked the page

what happened to doing a custom loop?

also 😮 is that a heatsink burger!

https://tenor.com/view/anime-computer-gif-14894957

[dull garnet]

i'm sure it will

[sly elk]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-titanium-and-black/6502626.p?skuId=6502626

oh wow

best buy has a lot of GPUs in stock

[modest moss]

@uncut mesa https://www.ebuyer.com/store/Components/cat/Graphics-Cards-Nvidia?page=2&sort=price+ascending

basically you're getting a GTX 1650 for that money

[uncut mesa]

Ooh !!

[modest moss]

they're not great but they'll run XIV well at 1080p

they're still overpriced so don't buy unless you really have to

[uncut mesa]

Understood

thanks alot 👍

[modest moss]

you're welcome, I'll ping you if I spot a decent UK deal

[odd sand]

lmao what is this from? New Game?

[uncut mesa]

Oh btw forgot to ask

is a Radeon RX 570 worth it ?

[modest moss]

I think it's about the same level as the 1650, but I'm not sure how well it runs XIV

one of these other nerds will know and respond soon though

[jaunty light]

Back to back to back to back to back different cultivars of tea was a mistake

I've ascended to a new dimension

[sick edge]

... and then crashed back down cause it's all just pee in the end.

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/meditation-chakra-gif-7734858

[uncut mesa]

That's fair

[sly elk]

idk what it's from

[odd sand]

I figured it out. Apparently it was this show. Never heard of it heh https://myanimelist.net/anime/35756/Comic_Girls

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/uemmdj/aesthetic_no_not_really_but_this_is_my_pride_and/

i need to watch comic girls lol

[royal forge]

Ooooo

[kindred brook]

https://youtu.be/Y7Y5gXfqVKE

[sly elk]

it's funny how quick stuff spins up when starting a game lol

[deep sapphire]

Look @potent arrow they’re advertising tools for you!

[modest moss]

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

i've watched enough new yankee workshop to know not to do that

also why the heck are they not using the rip fence at all

[sly elk]

oh I didn't realize what hank was implying lol

[jaunty light]

he doesnt need that finger

or even better cut the finger down the middle to have evven more fingers!

[deep sapphire]

And no eye protection

Rofl

[sly elk]

I suppose the real question here is, why was that picture taken

was it some C level at the company that makes the table saw posing with it for a picture?

[jaunty light]

it looks like a convention or smth in the background so maybe a demo of the blade stop

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/26fU7qM-pGc

[tranquil breach]

New Yankee workshop? Holy shit

Watched that at my grandparents' house so goddamn much

[sly elk]

if there's one thing I learned from Norm Abram, it's the importance of using biscuits

https://i.redd.it/s7ifl6kk5lw81.gif

so accurate lol

[royal forge]

Damn ur so weeb even ur bios has anime catgirls

True weeb

[jaunty light]

first step of any project is going into the backend and replacing backgrounds with anime girls

vmware-chan!!

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/weeb-weeb-detected-anime-detected-radar-gif-20319155

Not puttin lewd ones too

Smh

[jaunty light]

@royal forge

I'm gonna figure out how to do it on rubrik

[royal forge]

I want someone to open my bios and go WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A HENTAI BACKGROUND

WHY IS THE STARTUP SOUND ALL FROM HENTAIS

[jaunty light]

flash bad bios to the entire environment he he boi

what do they use for their web container?

dont assume it's botique, tomcat?

[sharp star]

I need to know which mobo this is, for uh, science

thank

[jaunty light]

prolly just gotta go explore the FS and go replace whatever the default polaris background is

although you know what is funny @tame fulcrum if you want the RCSA it's mandatory to pay the $3k for the ebook

0 chance of passing that exam without it because nothing is documented

I read a good 200 pages of the 5.3 GA documentation and it didn't detail half the shit asked on that quiz

is this actually on the fking motherboard

i feel scammed

im buying intel now

and it's cheaper than my x570 board!

wrYYY

asus you have duped me

imma go restart rn and see if i also have an anime girl hidden in my uefi

It seems not

Was that enabled by default

Cant even find it when looking in the z690 bios

LAME

I dont have it must be ROG only

No mine is rog too

im very miffed over this thing that i will never see cuz i dont spend an time in the uefi

[sly elk]

was hanging out in /r/vintagecomputing

https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/u6kb41/mid2000s_led_components_somewhat_ostentatious/

[jaunty light]

still amazed that the ASUS bios flashing process is as obtuse as it is

[sly elk]

that corsair ram is neat

oh my

never seen custom EFI themes like that before

[jaunty light]

apparently the newest agesa fixes ftpm stuttering which is nice

[jaunty light]

I hear ur smart and can do the computer coding, pls make me an anime girl bios

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-ceo-pat-gelsinger-expects-chip-shortages-to-last-into-2024

😔 never ending

[old jetty]

question

is there a way to have a window on top of all others in windows 10?

[modest moss]

I don't think you can do it natively, but there are things like autohotkey that can do it with a script it looks like

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/howto/windows-programs-always-on-top/

I've never done it obvs, so it may or may not do what you want

[potent arrow]

Depends on what kind of window

Browsers have plug ins

Abs browsers can open most media

[odd sand]

Please insert disk 17 of 57... Please insert disk 18 of 57...

In hindsight, I'm surprised they didn't have a better portable storage medium lined up earlier. CDrom was like 1994 or so, but not widely adopted by all computers until 3-4 years after that. So you had a large period like that with software needing some giant stack of floppies for installs.

[potent arrow]

hnng

tfw you never have that one 9volt battery for your stud finder

ever

[burnt quiver]

5800x3d is ridiculously good

Bench run at 1920x1080, RAM is Crucial Ballistix Max @ 3933 18-19-19-39, GPU is 3060ti +100 core/+500 vram

[sly elk]

That is true, same was true with USB

[odd sand]

How so? They fairly regularly updated the spec for USB, and there were alternatives such as Firewire available that were much faster at the same time

[sly elk]

took a little while to catch on

remember all the hubris in like 98/99 when the imac came out? but usb had already been a thing since 97

ok 1 whole year -rolls eyes-

and most people still primarily used floppy disks until like 2003 or so

[vestal crane]

https://i.imgur.com/2pNam4x.png

My HDD putting in the hours

[sly elk]

i kinda want a weeb motherboard

but i kinda don't trust the modding software to do it xD

maybe it installs some weird rootkit trojan thingy

hhu

watcha mean?

-pokes-

weeb motherboard out of the box?

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/ufgyg9/my_current_musicstreaming_studio_control_room/
needs more screens

[storm wedge]

Hi I just picked up computer from geeksquad. Could not download due to error 500. Fix: Go to Documents. My Games. FFXIV. FFXIV_BOOT.cfg. Open in Notepad. Look for Startup Completed 0, change the "0" to a "1". I just wanted to post this (if inappropriate please delete) if it helps anyone.

[odd sand]

I dunno about that setup: Wouldn't the mic there pick up a lot of keyboard noise?

Also the camera is in the way of seeing the main monitor, unless they play staring at the top one?

Oh nm the perspective was just weird. It's actually a dynamic mic on a boom arm on the right

I thought it was a desk-mount on the left next to the keyboard lol

[sly elk]

PODMIC

they're a real pro streamer with a swingarm mount mic

i mean it's no shure sm7b so they're not going to be a REAL PRO but

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-ill-bite-you-anime-bite-gif-8220087

me atm

in fact I think I'll go to reddit and chastize anyoen that uses a headset because they don't have a GOXLR and a SM7B

[odd sand]

By headset you mean one where the mic is attached to the headphones?

[sly elk]

oo no this one ticks all the boxes

gaming wireless RGB

[odd sand]

Cheap construction? Check. Flimsy pull out flex mic? Check. RGB? Check. Going to break in less than 6 months? Check.

[sly elk]

how about aggressively checking all those boxes

[odd sand]

My favorite are still the "gaming PCs" that have like a gtx 1650ti in them

[modest moss]

he has 55k followers on twitch

respectable

[sly elk]

dude I need the sm7b to reach out to my stream that has 2 regular watchers on twitch

[odd sand]

At least the Strix goes with some clever industrial design

It's not just rainbow barf and they incorporated the headphone drivers into the eye design

[dull garnet]

[sly elk]

not sure those are actually the headphone drivers

they used that same design on their sound card lol

[dull garnet]

sound card lol

[sly elk]

yea

the problem with buying a sound card is that it goes in your tower, where nobody can see it

why would I want that, when I can have this beauty

omg

https://snakeoilsound.com/

finally I can literally buy snake oil cables

[eternal breach]

Excuse me is anyone able to tell me how I can Kupo Bot to have what's in the #resources channel in my own discord? Looking to have the useful links and beginners guides in there

[stark hedge]

@tame fulcrum

What's your hot key for OSD?

your*

Bout to figure this out, i'm hitting 75 now at 60fps and it's driving me nuts

Starting to wonder if the thermal paste on the GPU was even applied correctly at the factory

[quaint spear]

I had ransomware on my laptop. I turned it on today and it won't boot, insisting on no OS. bummer

[dull garnet]

75 is fine?

[stark hedge]

eh

[jaunty light]

i idle at almost 60

[stark hedge]

My idle is in the low 50s

[odd sand]

What a pile of shit!

[lost python]

thank you sennheiser. i absolutely want to wait 45min for a firmware update of my earbuds that is 800kb in size

[jaunty light]

german excellence

[potent arrow]

When people back then thought of a evil dystopian tech future, this is what they were thinking about

Next thing you know I won't be able to wipe my ass because my bidet is downloading the newest firmware to correctly find my taint

[lost python]

endlessly long firmware updates at the most inconvenient time

truly a terrible future

[jaunty light]

what u aint got arms in the future?

[potent arrow]

Bidets are god

[jaunty light]

we dont need bidets we will have nanomachines to clean our bodies

[potent arrow]

I love my warmed seat

[potent arrow]

I wouldn't mind if it was over the wire

OTA updates is probably on some slow ass old ass bt protocol

[lost python]

thats absolutely how its gonna be

[jaunty light]

your car is automatically parking due to new ass warmer firmware! please wait 4.5 hours for the 2.5TB update to complete and apply

[sly elk]

lol

if my jeep has an OTA waiting for it, it'll ask me if I want to download it when I park

I think those only apply to the radio though

[sly elk]

lol typic macrumors https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-i-was-on-a-date-yesterday-evening.2343370/

[jaunty light]

I’m the same, I couldn’t be in a relationship with someone who is using android or windows. I know this sound silly. Luckily my partner is a mac user.

[stark hedge]

@tame fulcrum here it is with MSI Afterburner on default settings in Rhalgar's Reach empty.... Actually doing worse in Rhalgar's than Old Gridania.

[jaunty light]

Sorry, you didn't compile your own Arch kernel?

https://tenor.com/view/hohohoho-snobby-snooty-posh-laugh-gif-19373621

lol someone already brought that up in the thread too

[potent arrow]

I find it hilarious that my CPU cooler is still held on my zipties to this day

[jaunty light]

zip tie stronk

i only replaced the zipties holding my 4pin trailer connector on last year after 15+ of service

[sly elk]

i compiled my own gentoo once 😛

arch is for n00bs

[jaunty light]

Worst among the illiterate users who are snooty for no reason as if using a mac ia difficult or aomething

[sly elk]

?

people who are jerks to other people because of whatever OS they use, are jerks

https://tenor.com/view/what-a-jerk-tweek-tweak-stan-marsh-kyle-broflovski-south-park-gif-21551390

[jaunty light]

ya. i still dont understand why its more prominent with people that use android/win/ios though. at least i don't work with people that are elitist about their flavor of linux

actually that's a lie anyone that uses gentoo usually is like that

[jaunty light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/234314392819204106/970146091662196828/video0-1-4.MP4

[sick edge]

Wish. Me Luck. ;-;

[odd sand]

Yeah! I don't look down on them for running macOS, I look down on them for spending $1000 on a monitor stand!

[sick edge]

With or wothout a monitor?

[odd sand]

Only the stand, they couldn't afford the monitor. That comes next year.

[sick edge]

XD

I saw yhe numbera for their mac studio rendering times though

thats pretty cool

[sly elk]

it's the finest monitor stand ever created

honestly it's a better deal than the $200 vesa mount adapter

i realize that's crazy to say xD

but for $200 you get that

[odd sand]

Remember the tilt is also $400

[sly elk]

I'm kinda dumbfounded that nobody sells a third party adapter

[odd sand]

I'm sure apple has patented the stupid circle-mount-spot there

Precisely to sue anyone who tries

[sly elk]

probably

i fucking hate that they just couldn't put 4 screwholes on the back

[odd sand]

because apple is cool like that

[sly elk]

like every other monitor has

[jaunty light]

But that would mean they are the same as other peasant monitors

[sly elk]

man I hate that

there was always an apple tax

but they got fucking ridiculous there

[sly elk]

that is a big microphone trampoline xD

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

hahaha randomly saw this in my fb feed

ye just what I needed, to take a nap with my feet hanging off the edge of the seat

[sly walrus]

just nuuuudge that gas pedal

[jaunty light]

nudge deez nuts

[jaunty light]

who needs overclocking

punk ass anime girl looking UEFI

[dull garnet]

have you considered using your pc instead of breaking it

[jaunty light]

delet tpm

no need for encryption unless you're a terrorist

[sly elk]

Like having tax papers or whatever on your computer that you don’t want someone accessing if your computer gets stolen?

I think that would be silly not to want

Why does windows 10 make bitlocker encryption not a part of the home edition?!

That was a sad move

[jaunty light]

don't try and cover your terrorist activities with some fake news like taxes

Amusing $600 mobos dont come with

less amusing $100k servers don't, even though our hardware partner knows we require them

Gibs

this guy is a gamer

[sly elk]

It really didn’t come with hardware Tpm?!

[jaunty light]

bro i play fortntie once and now i cant apex

rip

[sly elk]

My Maximus xi hero did

[jaunty light]

my viii hero doesnt

what an avg tpm2 module go for these days anyways

$25? scam!

[sly elk]

Yeah seems I didn’t know what I was talking about

[jaunty light]

mobo comin with hardware tpm is really rare if not nonexistent tbh

gd im actually bad after doin the kids game going to apex

[hoary prairie]

You shouldn't need a hardware TPM if you have a 7th Gen Intel or Ryzen 2000 CPU

Older than 6th Gen Intel, and Ryzen 1000 needs a Hardware TPM

[still cypress]

Just curious, what does one do with marbles?

[still cypress]

Ah okay I see, no idea what you mean

[modest moss]

one way of playing is you put a circle on the ground, using string or whatever, or draw it in the sand

first person tosses a marble in there

second person tosses their marble in and tries to hit the first marble, if they hit it they take both marbles out and keep them

and so on

[sly walrus]

like curling without the nuance

[modest moss]

yeah it's just a mini game basically

[potent arrow]

talking to people via MC server console is the best

[sly elk]

yea I think what happened is my board has hardware TPM but it's an old version

and if you want tpm 2.0 there's a firmware update that provides firmware tpm?

https://www.asus.com/microsite/motherboard/ASUS-motherboards-Win11-ready/

[potent arrow]

After 5-6 years of using a pocket knife....I've finally caved and bought the correct tools...

[jaunty light]

You dont need that shit!

Back in my day we wound copper wire by hand and then dipped it into molten plastic. And terminated it permanently into a compooper.

[stark hedge]

Can someone help me figure out FanControl and MSI Afterburner? I have MSI Afterburner disabled for GPU fan management. However Fan Control won't work for some reason. I honestly don't even know what's controlling it right now...

[modest moss]

is there a reason you're not using afterburner for fan management?

[stark hedge]

Because FanControl is overall better

[sly elk]

I think that's one of those cases where having the right tool makes it way faster and less frustrating

[boreal surge]

something something layering

[potent arrow]

It is, but I've always only done 30-40 Max but now I'm looking at 400+ so ubm

Jfjsqmdn

I guess I have to spend the money

[green dune]

How do I fix my FPS in borderless windowed mode?

[outer sand]

have a question regarding this

my PSU cable have a similiar hole, but can't fit, why?

what do I need to do with the cable first?

I'll take an ss

[sick edge]

funny,. my asus mobo came with a support disc... i had no disk drive

im still missing drivers have to figure out how to get those and also how to make my thing use the other storages that are installed

[outer sand]

Not this one??

[sly elk]

no

what kinda PSU is that?

[sick edge]

Oh hey mine came woth thsoe too.. I dunno what they're for.

[sly elk]

the other end would look like that, it can be black too but

it should have that shape

[outer sand]

yep, and I should plug it to the usb pci right?

for this

[sly elk]

I'm honestly not sure what that black plug in your picture is

[outer sand]

it's not the same one with the one pic you just posted?

the right one

the left one is what my USB pci have

looks the same to me

[sly elk]

is the size the same?

[outer sand]

yes, but strangely I can't plug it in ._.

there must be something i must do

but idk what it is lol

do you know what's the name of these cable?

let me check what's the name of my PSU

exactly this one https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/CX-SERIES/p/CP-9020047-NA

but mine is very old one, bought it around 2012 I reckon

[sly elk]

oh ok, I thought maybe it was some weird rgb plug, but those would usually be much smaller. when you say it doesn't fit

you tried flipping the connector, right?

[outer sand]

yeah

hmmm

wait let me think again, I forgot

after zooming in, I realised each side has different shape, lol

ok I'll need to turn off my comp and try

[modest moss]

what resolution is windows running at?

[outer sand]

also recently my main display has been turning off during login process in window

weird, I have turn off on like 2-3 times for it to stay on ._.

[green dune]

1900 x 1200

[modest moss]

borderless windowed makes the game run at your desktop resolution, so if your graphics card isn't great, you'll need to use suitable quality settings

[green dune]

ah

[sly elk]

also, I'll note that if it looks like it should fit, it's possible that the connectors inside the plug are misaligned

with those molex 4 pins sometimes you have to try plugging them in at an angle

[potent arrow]

It does look like molex....

[sly elk]

yea

bit weird but i agree

never seen the grip thing on the side lol

with that card in the slot, the connector will be 'pointing up' (chamfered edges on top) so they would want to plug in the connector with the grip facing up

i wonder if they even need that though

without it, it'll probably still work, just not as much bus powerr

[outer sand]

Beautiful hehe Ty ty

[outer sand]

Wireless charger?

[potent arrow]

First out of MANY

[outer sand]

What's that?

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnvxSkqJ8ic gg Dell

[odd sand]

Yes that should fit. That is what they call a Molex power connector, it was the standard before the current "SATA power" connectors

[odd sand]

Looks like a wireless extender. Backside should have a regular wall power plug

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molex_connector

[zealous wolf]

that Alienware review basiclly solidifies why its sad that dell wastes so much $$ of OEM junk...

only things salvageable are the cpu, storage drives, gpu, and RAM...

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1520926086665850881

GamersNexus (@GamersNexus)

Just ordered a $6000 pre-built. Credit card company will call any second now. "Sir, we understand these aren't fraudulent. We're just worried about why you keep doing this to yourself."

Twitter · May 2, 2022, 12:40 AM

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-link-shocked-surprised-gif-4925069

[sly elk]

I am thoroughly disappointed in the R13

and based on what they did with the R5-R12, I didn't have high hopes to begin with

[sharp star]

Dell always finds ways to fuck things up

[sly elk]

their monitors are great

dell cases have always been awful and weird though

i mean going back to the 486 days they used terrible layouts

during the 486 days most layouts were awful though

[zealous wolf]

proprietary parts is a dissapointment, just see his other reviews on the GN channel LOL...

also that power supply in the alienware is just more unwarrented ewaste...

[sharp star]

yeah

[zealous wolf]

was knida thinknig perhaps someone can do heavy modding to those cases...

[sly elk]

yuea they were pushing the r13 as a new better design

but it's even worse than the old one

and that fuckin swingarm case is so bad so I thought anything would be better hahahahaahaha

i was wrong

[sharp star]

I dunno what universe Dell is from where its proprietary bullshit is good

[sly elk]

i mean in the GN video, it's more than just proprietary BS

it's just weird

like they wanted to reuse the xps chassis sheetmetal

and they went to crazy ends to do that

something is very wrong in their management team

because it's a lot of wasted money and effort to produce a worse computer

[odd sand]

To be fair, he probably resells a lot of the review units

[sly elk]

like the radiator is a 120mm radiator jammed into a bracket that effectively makes it 96mm

and there's a ton of wasted metal/plastic in brackets and clips

that case would probably cost $400+ if they sold it separately

[sharp star]

probably

[sly elk]

it's almost The Homer of computer cases

[sharp star]

all those moving parts too

[sly elk]

yea that's what i'm saying

and what steve from gn was saying lol

they could've built a really nice aluminum chassis for the amount of money they probably spent on that shit

I mean that alienware cost almost the same as a mac pro lmao

[odd sand]

Probably what happened was the mgmt wanted them to reuse that stuff that was mentioned, then there were problems and mgmt said make it work, then in typical corporate incompetence it ended up costing more to shoehorn in the stuff than listening to their engineers and just going with a new solution

[sly elk]

which still seems like screwed up management

why wasn't someone seeing the R&D costs go through the roof and sounding the alarm?

unless

the R&D was so heavily outsourced

idk, even then they're going to be comparing apples to apples

but even then, as I was saying, most dell cases are over engineered and weird like that

[kindred brook]

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/asus-rtx-3090-evangelion-gpu-pre-orders-open-at-dollar2185

I want this

X. X

But I want the Gundam one more

[agile roost]

😳

[modest moss]

buy both

[kindred brook]

Damn

I like shues style

And advice

Good financial plan

[modest moss]

you could get hit by lightning next week

can't take it with you

[kindred brook]

In Arizona?

Doubt

[modest moss]

driveby

[sly elk]

aaaand it's sold out

but you can buy one for $3500 on ebay I'm sure 😛

[kindred brook]

F

[jaunty light]

you can be strong

mate the gundam and eva

[odd sand]

They're out of their goddamn minds to charge that in preorders with the current market trend

[sick edge]

Or in their right mind.

[dull garnet]

It's a collector's item

The Gundam one was double msrp

[sick edge]

^

Have you SEEN what people charge for typoed merchandise?

[unkempt stone]

Lately when ive been playing ff14 my cpu and gpu run pretty hot, 70-75 degrees and 80-82 degress respectively. This is technically within normal load temperatures but pretty much the top. Should I be worried?

[sharp star]

Try repasting

[outer sand]

how to check temp again?

[unkempt stone]

I use hwinfo

Ill try repasting

[dull garnet]

Those temps are completely fine

[potent arrow]

I am a dwarf and j dig trench

[modest moss]

pls try not to slam pickaxe into foot thx

[potent arrow]

Literally have the best safety boots money can buy

[modest moss]

those don't look like safety boots in the pic

[potent arrow]

They are

Literally oil platform boots

[modest moss]

you could be in full plate and I'd still worry

[potent arrow]

Me too

@modest moss

Whehehehdsudndka

[modest moss]

yo

don't take pics up ladders

you're a hazard

[potent arrow]

3 points of contact

I'm fine

[latent grotto]

gpu is a little toasty but technically fine.

[sly elk]

oh FFS. I thought I solved my microphone issues

was ready to box up and send back that elgato mic lol

go to start using my hyperx with my work mac today and it's back to ignoring it. Oh come on man wth is wrong with that mic that this one particular computer hates

[umbral moss]

y doe

I thought square enix announced a new TR game with unreal engine 5?

[potent arrow]

@deep sapphire

The only use for master crap tools

[umbral moss]

🤔

I bought a demo driver set for that

[potent arrow]

I normally have a drywall saw

But it's missing

[boreal surge]

People are saying the japanese studios lose a lot more money though

[umbral moss]

dunno why SE would dump them

whenever I see a studio go to some creative helldump I get sad, because you'll never see another good game from those properties again

[boreal surge]

Some twt on another channel said Marvel lost them 200m

[umbral moss]

poggin

that's mainly on SE, but also none of my business because I'm not the CEO of square-enix

[boreal surge]

Yeah but knowing why people sell stuff is interesting business nonetheless

[odd sand]

Very french. Much drain. Wow.

My guess is they want to concentrate on their core company

They never really did "get" the western market even after buying all those studios. So maybe they figure it's best to divest them and try righting their ship

[sly elk]

https://jalopnik.com/we-were-so-close-to-getting-the-chrysler-firepower-1848857969

[odd sand]

Fiat Notta-Miata?

[sly elk]

i like the purple/green

the white/blue looks good too, but the purple stands out more

[boreal surge]

I prefer white blue but I’m the kind who’d avoid the LEDs in the first place unless doing so makes them more expensive

[modest moss]

so get your money back from the bank, and keep the 'busted' 3090?

[potent arrow]

behhefhscnkk

[modest moss]

so evga are getting your money and they're doing nothing for you in terms of refund/rma?

I'm confused

https://tenor.com/view/smh-cigarette-gif-24294903

[potent arrow]

Wow I went the whole day without gloves and now my hand is raw and bleeding

Ffs

Sigh

Alright

Now the fun part

Configuring the new server units and running cat6

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/shyporter-no-comment-elan-gif-22342087

[potent arrow]

This time I have no excuses

[odd sand]

What were you putting under the walkway anyways? Looked like a french drain, but its just a cable conduit?

[potent arrow]

So the property next door needs Ethernet/line in to infra

And I can't pull up that walkway

Because it's pour and stamped concrete

So I dug two holes on each side and use a hose and conduit to flush a tinnet through

[odd sand]

Sarah is an IT Bard, jack of all trades

[potent arrow]

In other words

😎 I'm an engineer

[modest moss]

you spelled 'hazard' wrong mate

[potent arrow]

Engineer and hazard are not mutually exclusive

Fiberglass insulation tastes like shit

You are Canadian right?

And do you have a professional engineering license?

Yeah so you can't legally put engineer as your tittle

So yeah they would be piss lmfao

Not iron band tho

No wonder they are pissed

Funny.

[boreal surge]

Software engineers are really professional plumbers

[jaunty light]

@boreal surge my pipeline is not a sewer!

[boreal surge]

If it isn’t a sewer then you really need to take a better look at it. Or get a new engineer to look at it and inevitably tell you its a sewer

[sick edge]

Hazard and engineer...

https://tenor.com/view/engineer-tf2-team-fortress-gaming-dance-gif-16535204

[potent arrow]

Peep me screaming in the corner here pouring alcohol on my hand by accident

[jaunty light]

Sarah is a hazard engineer

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-nph-gif-10826948

[sly walrus]

least it's not infected

[sick edge]

... my follow up is what you were originally trying to pour on your hand

[odd sand]

Software Solutions Architect

Meanwhile actual architects are like "Oh yeah? So is that function load-bearing?"

[sly elk]

i took both kinds of architecture class in college

for that one particular project, my classmate disappeared for like 2 weeks and came back with the model all built up. freaked me out lol.

[sick edge]

Ugh... architects

He was busy architecting

the inside probably has figurines though

that are.. too.. life like....

[sly elk]

no way lol

also no, we agreed on the design, I drew it, he took my plans and built the thing out of wood

[sick edge]

For two weeks?

[sly elk]

nah he disappeared

i forgot the reason

[sick edge]

Im telling younit was to mad scientist shrink people

[sly elk]

lol

[sick edge]

man... im surprised yiu cut this small wothout a lasercuttwr

[boreal surge]

changes type

takes down whole internet

[jaunty light]

Ya here it just means they make a diagram showing how cool things could be if we did it like this

Aka it wouldnt work because they lack all critical environment information

[boreal surge]

And that’s before throwing in code debt I assume

[jaunty light]

Kinda like if you took an architectural artist

[boreal surge]

AKA WTF is this bullshit code I have to write around

[jaunty light]

And they are like look, i made this super cool structure, but its impossible to build with current materials

Then the final product is deliveres and the customer is pissed

[sly elk]

buffer overruns in a multithreaded program can cause entertaining errors

[potent arrow]

Desk is up

[agile roost]

Nice desk

[sick edge]

mine is a freebue office desk and a freebie "artist" desk that I haphazardly have as a standong desk....

it is way beyond where im supposed to screw the holes....

[sly elk]

it reminds me of the herman miller desk lol

[agile roost]

It might be lol it’s from IKEA

[sick edge]

That keep off rug doe

and those two lamps placement....

[sly elk]

sspeaking of hm desks

[sick edge]

actually yeah. the two lamp placemebt is kinda weird....

[sly elk]

i am digging this, except for those boxes hanging off it. yuck. but the rounded top looks nice

[sick edge]

why?

[agile roost]

Yeah I need to get some elgato lights

😔

[sly elk]

that looks like mine!

kinda

[sick edge]

Im confused why two lamps and not just... one lamp.

[sly elk]

cuz symmetry

[sick edge]

.... ocd? is it worth getting two pf the same lamp?

The current desk situation...

No. I dont use that yoga ball

I dont know how to

I dont exercise

but its neat tp lean on when Im on the floor

[sly elk]

here's mine in the lived in state

[sick edge]

i see ypu went the ikea splution

ubless that's a stand alone desk.. oh it is

[agile roost]

Yeah symmetry lol

[sick edge]

Im still not sure where Ill put me pc

[agile roost]

Would be weird to have one side illuminated

[sly elk]

the only thing from ikea are the cabinets

[sick edge]

my floor IS carpet so ..

[sly elk]

the top is from a custom glass shop

the frame is from jarvis

[sick edge]

I woupd never woth a glass desk

Im practical lile that

[sly elk]

everyone always says that, but I did it anyway. I'm weird like that.

[sick edge]

thats fair

i looked pretty hard fpr a pc case wothout tempered glass

This pc case desogn is apparenlyy 10 years old

and I guess I can tell. XD

still not enough

[agile roost]

Still don’t quite understand how blockchain can be meaningfully implemented into the gaming landscape lol

[potent arrow]

Computer

[boreal surge]

The idea is to apparently incentivize people to play now that in game objects can now fluctuate based on real world value

[umbral moss]

https://twitter.com/surfacage/status/1521232121704357889

surfacage / 6.1 spoilers (@surfacage)

me, a microsoft developer, trying to recompile a 3rd party library with perl and cygwin and whatever because a ten year old legacy system needs to talk to an API built this year

Likes

217

Twitter · May 2, 2022, 8:56 PM

[modest moss]

dude

Christmas desktop wallpaper

STILL

[sly elk]

that picture is from a while ago but

this one isn't

[modest moss]

absolute psychopath

[agile roost]

Reminds me of sakaguchi’s in-game clothing brand?

[jaunty light]

Amogus

[jaunty light]

Whats wrong with christmas?

[boreal surge]

SVN? In this day and age?

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/shiho-rimi-channel-japanese-christmas-gift-gif-10705848

[sly elk]

lol

[jaunty light]

Shue is the grinch

[sly elk]

that subwoofer does look sus

[jaunty light]

He just needs to warm up to christmas superiority

[sly elk]

it's not even plugged in

[jaunty light]

Where do i buy the microsoft classic xmas sweater

Do i wanna blow 70 bucks on that shit

[sly elk]

?

[jaunty light]

The windows 95 one is sold out

[sly elk]

i haven't found a new wallpaper that i like

[jaunty light]

Anime girls

[boreal surge]

[late basalt]

“Work experience? What work experience? Not like you people had any as game devs either. How can I be any worse?”

[boreal surge]

That came in my email today

I’d consider it if it weren’t for the fact that my H-1B app was pending and also that was from AMZ

Track record for being hell to work at and track record for producing crap games

[sly elk]

what is the shittiest mobile app microtransaction garbage company?

yea amazon recruiting emails are up there in terms of arrogance

I especially like the ones that say something like "Hi we think you might be a good fit for this position so take this programming test and we'll get back to you"

[sick edge]

×^_ smoll

... why so smoll?

[sly elk]

like of all the companies that email me

the ones I'd least likely ever apply to are 1. raytheon, 2. amazon

[boreal surge]

Well to be fair it was just general linkedin recs, not amz email

[sick edge]

Dependsnon how much Im paid...

[sly elk]

and my basis for that isn't even because of all the other things abouat amazon

[sick edge]

id take moneybti play bad games

[sly elk]

I just hate their emails

[boreal surge]

Raytheon iirc recruits in UCLA, what’s their issue aside from US war machine?

[sick edge]

Hah, jokes on you, I dint get emails.

cause i didnt graduate and bave no hostorybof professional work.

Failures thinking ahead.

[boreal surge]

Apparently I got an inmail from amz for a contract position for 50ish an hour

[sly elk]

hrmm

for one, their recruiting emails are incredibly vague targets. like it's obvious they got my email somehow from a list and didn't even bother checking my linkedin or whatever

like they know where I work and how long I've been there, roughly

and use that to recommend me jobs I have no relevant experience for whatsoever

they also somehow got one of my random email addresses i've never used for anything job related lol

[boreal surge]

I really should make a don’t @ me unless you can offer international placement

[sly elk]

my very favorite raytheon antic though was one day they mass emailed the whole company i work at

with <company kyanche works at> recruiting open house

and invited everyone to a recruiting event

[boreal surge]

Wow they do that?

[sly elk]

targeted specifically for people who work at my company lol

[boreal surge]

Also your company doesn’t have spam filters for that?

[sick edge]

It helps to not be in a professional list is just funny. =P

[sly elk]

honestly the only thing they haven't tried

is putting business cards on people's windshields in the parking lot

[sick edge]

used car salespeople have that tactic reserved

[sly elk]

they drive trucks around town

and iirc they pulled an ice cream truck up to someone else's parking lot and offered free ice cream for phone/email/resumes

so it's both gross and hilarious

I have to respect them for the balls they have lmao

[sick edge]

dang... they out there proactively offering jobs.

[sly elk]

according to one of my friends, they have a hallway with TVs playing videos of things getting blown up

[sick edge]

how can they afford to do this?

[boreal surge]

You alright?

[sly elk]

idk how they afford to do it?

maybe because they have a ton of money, need engineers, and all the engineers want to work for spacex or someone else idk

i initially included lockheed since they always seem to get the cool jpl contracts

but then backed off

[umbral moss]

I don't think it's a lack of talent applying, it's that they burn their employees so quickly because they're a contractor

[sly elk]

afaik raytheon stepped up their pay quite a bit to become more attractive

[umbral moss]

yeah, but still publicly traded so you're not working your 40 and out

plus if the war machine gets a little less money next FY, rip your job

[sly elk]

luckily, for space stuff that's not an issue right now

[modest moss]

ed you're the kind of nerd who'll know this, would a single w88 warhead destroy a city?

they're 475kt apparently

[umbral moss]

uh. yeah. lmao

they're about 400x what hit japan

[modest moss]

yikes

[umbral moss]

a single ICBM/MIRV package has enough destructive power to turn a good chunk of any given continent into inhospitable nuclear slag

[sick edge]

So I can apply and be terrible at job woyh no expereicne and get paid before i get fired?....

[modest moss]

I ended up reading about trident missiles and them carrying 8 warheads and I was like, this seems excessive but I guess they somehow split up and land on different targets

[umbral moss]

more like you're a qualified candidate and getting paid a lot of money, but your job is basically one congressional budget away from being yeeted into the sun

[boreal surge]

1 year and 10 months of piss shit experience

[umbral moss]

because muh shareholder fiduciary duty

[sick edge]

lame

can I be not qualified?

[boreal surge]

I don’t have much in the way of successful projects cause of the ones I ended up doing.

[sick edge]

im a part time minimum wager, stability isnt in the cards anyway. XD

[boreal surge]

Well if I did the math right thats 24k for 3 months. Which is 96k yearly?

[sick edge]

yeha... home depot considered 36 hours "part time"

[boreal surge]

That maths out to 104 a year, and a reminder that I’m paid intro level big tech + stock.

Also that I’m intl student and they don’t sponsor contract positions.

[sick edge]

Does being paid on stock mean they dodge the taxes of paying you?

[boreal surge]

Unfortunately no

Being paid in stock just means you have a fluctuating quarterly bonus

[umbral moss]

stonks are still compensation, you just get paid in a non-taxable form until you liquidate it

[boreal surge]

Last thing I want this early in my career. And also Visa.

[umbral moss]

my company is stupid and they give me stock options

which means I have to pay them to get my bonus

[boreal surge]

They’re taxed as income when they vest

After that it follows the standard rules for capital gains tax

Same in US

As mentioned RSU taxed as income tax, then cap gains tax if you sell.

Or in my case, attempt to offset tax cause stock crash XD

Unfortunatly you can only use like a few k of stock losses to optimize tax

[sick edge]

Yuuuuup

[boreal surge]

I’m assuming it’s because said earnings aren’t realized

[sick edge]

Only the rich can afford thaoe methods

[boreal surge]

I think I made a comment on some reddit post on how to solve homelessness that excess stagnant savings should be taxed

[sick edge]

I always laughed at the 9dea of psychoatrist for people who make too much money

but i guess i cant understand those problems.

[boreal surge]

Well I can certainly relate to the problem of really just not caring about the money.

[potent arrow]

@sly elk you like battlestations right

Here is my temporary one

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958618526204174416/970871466461659156/20220502_221628.jpg?width=1426&height=676

[modest moss]

SHARK

[potent arrow]

@modest moss

First thing I did

Bahamut goes wherever I do

[sly elk]

SHARKY!

is that a door?

[potent arrow]

where

[sly elk]

the table top?

[potent arrow]

No

its a boardroom table

LMFAO

[sly elk]

oh ok, it's a common way to make a table top

using a nice solid core wooden door

i've seen the ghetto version a few times in my life, as well

in middle school I had a teacher that made tables for the computers