#technology-discussion
jaunty light
the closest I got to rolling my truck was trying to do a 180 on a like 40 degree hill
deep sapphire
that was a brand new F250 as well
sly elk
.. this is the part I say again cars are scary af
sly elk
sly elk
ah one comment i'll make about body on frame vehicles
the body not really being 'structural' seems like a terrible idea lol
jaunty light
just have better bones
deep sapphire
it depends on where the crash occurs, in front or rear minor to medium impacts they hold up pretty well, but in high speed crash or offset yeah the ladder frame doesnt help for shit
modern trucks are much better though
we've all seen the 2001 F-150 IIHS video
that thing buckled so bad
lmao
jaunty light
thatll buff right out
deep sapphire
I think he said it was one of the worst performing vehicles he'd ever seen
Ford 
@jaunty light
Ford
jaunty light
dont worry i got a 4 door im fine
deep sapphire
yeah so you can escape out the back
just put it in neutral before you get into the accident it'll just bounce you back
do HD trucks just not have any safety at all or what
I know the government doesnt have to conduct the same tests on a legality if the GVWR is over 8500lbs
jaunty light
nope pretty sure if you tipped over the f650 we got that thing would crumple like a piece of paper
deep sapphire
wo people were sent to the hospital; one with serious injuries and the other with minor pain.
serious pains
the dude is dead look at that the entire fuckin cabin was decapitated by the trailer lol
sly elk
😦
deep sapphire
FINAL DESTINATION
sly elk
yea HD trucks don't really strike me as something safe
jaunty light
deep sapphire
sly elk
i wonder how much cheaper it is to own/operate a 3500 duramax than to say, buy a used kenworth or whatever
sly elk
or a volvo or something
jaunty light
i guess it's better to make them goofy cuz they would be mad depressing if they tried to make it super serious and realistic lol
still doesn't drive behind lumber trucks because of final destination gang
deep sapphire
deep sapphire
ya true sry
sly elk
?
deep sapphire
looks like its kenworth not purchasing
your current pic has a filter on it, hard to tell age
deep sapphire
LEWD
jaunty light
were u part of a seattle grunge band back in 90
deep sapphire
jaunty light
hank full on horny posting
deep sapphire
jaunty light
@deep sapphire
jaunty light
literally its talking about @modest moss
deep sapphire
damn
jaunty light
i c ur nips
jaunty light
t-that's not an isuzu
sly elk
deep sapphire
jaunty light
that would be funny go around jacking the badges.. wait wrong phrasing, stealing badges off of trucks and replacing it with other brands
sly elk
jaunty light
nope only anime music
deep sapphire
nope only anime music
why
deep sapphire
sly elk
deep sapphire
as someone who drove a camry
thats pretty funny
you can clearly tell thats a toyota steering wheel
LMAO
the cruise control is in the same spot too
sly elk
deep sapphire
hahahaha
deep sapphire
omfg the speedo is the same too
jaunty light
holy shit what the fuck
sly elk
well yea that was part of the NUMMI deal
yea that's the hilarious part
like practically every american car brand makes a wheel with an emblem that can be switched depending on brand
deep sapphire
this is the perfect car tbh
sly elk
speaking of that
sly elk
i think the corvette was one of the first gms in a while to have an actually bespoke wheel
but hey that's also how they got them so cheap
deep sapphire
sick edge
Where's our rainbow pattern do?
sly elk
the corvette in the 80s had a simiular wheel but
dude the seats are interesting lol
they look like lazyboy chairs
sly elk
1 year later
deep sapphire
horrible
sly elk
deep sapphire
ahh that 90s GM diagnostic console
deep sapphire
the side skirts sit up really high as you can tell, so its kinda uncomfortable with the trans tunnel
you'd driven an XJ I believe
they had the same issue
the trans tunnel is so fuckin wide
sly elk
?
deep sapphire
all the peddles are tightly grouped
sly elk
never driven an xj
deep sapphire
oh
sly elk
but I hate cars with tight pedals like that
sly elk
it's why i never bought a vw lol
deep sapphire
jeep guy and everything
deep sapphire
just figured cause all jeep guys have driven an XJ
sly elk
I've ridden in the cargo area of an xj before
sly elk
my best friend's mom had one XD
deep sapphire
😛
sly elk
ahhh i hope she's doing well
she was hella nice XD
a hella nice person* (don't get weird ok)
late pier
Guys, if Im upgrading from Nvidia card to another Nvidia card, I don't have to uninstall the driver right?
deep sapphire
not typically but its a good idea regardless
if the cards are newer then its less of a problem
if you are upgrading a card that is 8+ years old then you should
sly elk
yea it'll be fine
if you have like the geforce app
that automatically updates your driver
lol I went 1070ti -> 5700xt -> 3070 and then realized I never uninstalled geforce experience
deep sapphire
Lmao nice
late pier
Alright then, Im just going to replace it
sly elk
eh
late pier
Im buying gtx 1650 
sly elk
the 5700xt was great
deep sapphire
deep sapphire
the 5700xt was great
Hey let’s not get carried away here
sly elk
but whenever i played games it'd get hella hot and make tons of fan noise
and at the time mining was pushing 5700xt prices up like crazy
so I sold it and bought the 3070
deep sapphire
You might excite bidori
sly elk
got a performance upgrade and made a few bucks
deep sapphire
Couple bucks on the side
sly elk
seriously lol
deep sapphire
Slingin parts for harry
sly elk
honestly that buying-selling thing made out such that my 3080ti effectively cost about $1000
from selling high and buying when I could get a good price lmao
jaunty light
k gimmie ur address
deep sapphire
Okay don’t send me used condoms
late pier
Man, graphic card price is starting to crash now, won't be much profit anymore
sly walrus
least we’ll be able to buy them
deep sapphire
Yeah getting a bit more reasonable
late pier
Got a friend who sold their card for almost 3x the price, so jealous 
deep sapphire
Yeah but a card also costs 3x the price
So it’s kinda equal unless you have a spare card
deep sapphire
I convinced my friend to ditch his 5700 for a 3080 he only paid a 300 dollar difference
He was like holy shit games work now
late pier
Must be nice having 4k monitor and 60 fps 
jaunty light
1080p 360fps baby
ha lame
not the asus rog gamer rgb ultimate crosshair hero roman numeral wifi extreme?
i need 2 many cores
gimmie 7950X3D
or the 7950UWU edition
odd sand
Could always build an older threadripper or xeon system
odd sand
jaunty light
I wish I could take decommed equipment home smh
we literally destroy perfectly good $40k servers after they hit their 3 year mark
odd sand
Bc JS is garbo that needs high clocks for single threads right?
Destroy them? You working for DOD or something?
jaunty light
yep
full custody from buy to destroy, so there's 0 chance of ever even thinking about the hardware, such a waste
odd sand
RIP. I just got done with a DOD contract at new years
jaunty light
its a shame but i at least try and keep perfectly fine servers stacked up to make a lab at work or some dumb shit
odd sand
The only thing they gave away was a stack of retired 1080 GPUs a few years ago
jaunty light
we're about to cycle out quad socket, xeon gold, 2TB ram virtualization hosts
to be fair I don't know what they actually do with them but considering I've left shit out in the rain before it's probably not giving it to other agencies that don't have budget and whatnot
odd sand
Nobody else in the DOD needs that? Despite a lot of places running on stupid old shit>
jaunty light
EOSL is a problem because our gen9 560s are unsupported in 2023 and they really.. aren't that old hardware wise
but yeah that's what im sayin
odd sand
My contract at least was DOD-affiliated school so I didnt have the worst of the stupidity
Although there was still a lot of facepalm stuff going on
jaunty light
even just local to us there are other divisions that have no budget that could use the shit, but rules be made up
don't see why we can't gift them a box with no disks and just transfer custody
odd sand
Our PM was constantly fighting the govvies to drag them into the modern era lol
Since they were like 2 gens out of date when we started the contract
Hire us as SMEs and for our expertise then constantly tell us No, You're Wrong when they dont like the answer
jaunty light
yes we did that with microsoft
except microsoft knows less about their products than we do and constantly suggested... not good solutions
odd sand
Funny thing is they usually finally came around, but it was only after like a year+ of beating the drum
jaunty light
ungodly amounts of money went to that project, I was talking to one of the contractors and he was legit getting comped to fly from florida to cali every week
he'd fly back on the weekends and come back weeekdays
total waste of time too
odd sand
Our biggest success I think was having everything setup for WFH
jaunty light
it would if we paid like 4 people several million dollars
most of which just went to microsoft anywayas but yeah
pretty sure he said he was pulling 300k+tdy
odd sand
When we were ordered to mandatory WFH we just changed a few firewall rules related to VPN and it all Just Worked
jaunty light
you'd hate how we have everything setup it's garbage
odd sand
CAC, SSO, etc. all worked it was nice
jaunty light
it's kinda weird how the "tiers" go but essentially we bought another team a VPN concentrator to manage so we could connect our clients to it
deep sapphire
CAC
jaunty light
except we don't manage it, and the team will not do some basic QoL adjustments for us
||every time you connect you get a different IP there is no leasing||
oh and it's a shared pipe that's like a half gig, at best you pull 100KB/s
and they expect my workstation guys to keep those boxes 100% clean?
what fucking world you living in
odd sand
I think the biggest hurdle currently is orgs not realizing just how easy it is to automate shit with Splunk and Ansible et al
jaunty light
takes a god damn age and a half to patch one let alone do anything else
70GB VS install for someone that decided oh VPN now? i'll go live across the country
ok enjoy the 1 week transfer time
jaunty light
I think the biggest hurdle currently is orgs not realizing just how easy it is t...
other team has splunk but does nothing with it beyond the STIG requirement and SMTP relay
i really wanna play with it
but for some reason they're hardline no against ansible which I don't get
odd sand
VPN was only enforced for certain services on our workstations, so something like that I would have just installed off the VPN
jaunty light
terraform is totally cool but you mention ansible and people get a stick up their ass
odd sand
My current contract though is a bit more strict so you basically cant do anything if the VPN drops
jaunty light
yeah we're lowside but still operate at the NIPR level so it's stipulated
odd sand
I think if you VPN and connect to Teams then drop you can still connect to existing meetings, that's about it. Can't see any updated chat or emails etc.
Terraform and Ansible complement each other
jaunty light
what's odd is that NMCI allows you to view email and teams on your phone now because it's just azure and o365
odd sand
Yeah I had teams and outlook on my phone for my last contract, but the new one you can't have either bc the VPN software isnt available
jaunty light
yeah I have no idea what the problem with ansible is. mention terraform cool, mention DSC cool, ansible = immediately no like ??
and we have a DOD wide contract with red hat so it's not a licensing problem
don't even need vpn now, I can just login on any device I have no problem
odd sand
We used ansible but I think there were some special considerations for the school
jaunty light
there's ansible content out there from DISA and everything but I haven't read any of it
odd sand
I guess you could hack together some POSH to accomplish similar things, but it might not be as crossplatform compatible
jaunty light
I just want to move heavily into operations and automation because that's how I can laterally transfer to private industry andor remain relevant cuz rn everything kinda sucks ass
yea we're like 95% windows so it's not a big deal to use DSC but yknow
odd sand
Yeah I've just been moved into an automation position at this new contract. I was a cyber analyst before
Unfortunately our PM is overtasked so I haven't been given clear guidance on wtf Im supposed to be doing yet and its already been like 2 months
So its mostly "Just book up on Terraform, ansible, Intune and defender on pluralsight for now" 
jaunty light
I have no powa but really if big boi DoN is doing it fuck it let's do AAD
AAD with onprem then federate the auth and use intune holy shit life would be so much easier for the workstation guys lmfao
odd sand
It's a service contract though not a "butts in seats" so im not worried for my job or anything, but i feel bad and anxious i dont have a clear milestone to work on yet
jaunty light
AD+WSUS works like 10% of the time
windows 2003 tier
SCCM probably works slightly better, but it's still garbage
odd sand
Geezus, we at least had like server 2012 min
jaunty light
no we're 2016 functional and 2019 DCs but what I mean is the architecture is just .. old
compared to AAD and intune it's archaic
odd sand
We werent using intune at the last one bc they didnt really have AAD rollout yet
jaunty light
I mean I guess I manage AD but it doesn't really need intervention cuz it sucks, so I've been trying to look at more server/virtualization/storage automation and am always amazed at the weird shit that exists
just happens that netapp somehow in a very small way overlaps with servicenow but it's super basic lol
odd sand
We used uhh... Ivanti I think
jaunty light
probably only useful if you're adding a workflow to provision a small user drive
yeah ivanti sucks balls too
works 1.5% of the time (on my workstation)
did the numbers 
odd sand
WSUS was used as well but I think they always did a test rollout beforehand to make sure shit worked before they released it to workstations
jaunty light
haha I have everything auto approved baby
odd sand
But yeah, network oversight can get crazy good if you properly configure splunk
jaunty light
odd sand
Unfortunately that takes a lot of effort and more org buyin than most orgs can manage it seems
"We want ALL the logs. Also, why does searching take forever?"
jaunty light
splunk be expensive, but also someone that can actually do splunk costs a lot of time
odd sand
That's why you need to pare that shit down at the heavy forwarder and only index what you need
jaunty light
here .. they uh, made the "splunk guy" someone with almost no interest in splunk and so they got hella basic network logging working and that's it
oh they straight up have a cert https://www.splunk.com/en_us/training/certification-track/splunk-enterprise-certified-admin.html
lol
odd sand
We're currently convincing ppl to offload excess logs to Glacier if they feel they may need it at some vague future time and only index what we need for monitoring and alerts
Yeah Splunk is one of those tools where at basic install you are getting like 1% out of it
But when you sit down with shareholders for each department and get the proper logs ingested and properly formatted at the heavy forwarder first... you can set up really nice dashboards and alerts that trigger automation scripts etc.
odd sand
OR just have the Actions dropdown provide actions for ppl with the proper roles so they dont actually need credentials for stuff
sly elk
but I got locked out of my other work laptop a while back and haven't bothered to take it in to connect to the network
managed to screw that up real good xD
there's a way to vpn in from the login screen, but that apparently broke when they deprecated their old VPN 😦
jaunty light
I wanna get CISSP, VCP, CIE-SAN (lord help me) and now splunk tbh
odd sand
eg: Action dropdown for blocking an IP you would just need the appropriate roles in Splunk, but dont actually need account credentials to the firewall or border router
jaunty light
thats some good shit
oh yeah I also really want to implement PAM in my env because we don't do that shit
although I'm not particularly savvy with PAM or KMIP and the solution we have that I can use it 100% virtual no HSM
send me ur code I can probably not read it
odd sand
We had a kvstore for a selection of Notable Events and would just review that every 15mins or so. Stuff like bad domains, potential brute force, etc. and review them for stuff that automation would have been too many false positives
jaunty light
um,
using system;
system.console.writeline("haha i am c sharp pro lol")
odd sand
Splunk is like a better version of Jira: You can do a lot with it through proper config or addons, but most companies barely tap the surface and think it sucks
jaunty light
that doesn't bode well jira sucks ass
odd sand
I wouldn't say Jira is great, but the biggest issues I had with it at the last contract were it was just never configured right
jaunty light
I can't say much since I never did config for any atlassian products but I will say both for externally hosted+internally hosted it's slow as fuck and just.. not joyous to use
I especially hate how limited and shitty confluence is
odd sand
They had most departments pulling from the same default template, which meant that most projects were loading like 1500 fields for no reason
jaunty light
yea that applies to shit sharepoint implementations too tbh
one user syncs to sharepoint but updates 1000000000000000 files because cbf to segment it properly so it's just an org wide site
odd sand
So yeah, it's a pos if you don't configure it properly... which happens to be a majority of orgs
jaunty light
this always comes down to never having either the expertise or time or both
odd sand
Like 2 years into the contract though we had hammered Splunk and such into shape so when we had a pentest we basically shut them down and they had to ask us to whitelist them to get any testing done lmao
Usually it's they bring in someone to set the thing up to start, then consider it "done" and only keep 1 person around to patch and keep the lights on
Not realizing the setup was just for basic setup and it really requires another year+ of configuring
Now you made me think of how their AD had 95% of endpoints in one OU
jaunty light
just uh
you know apply 10,000 filters..
to determine if GPO should be applied or not..
don't mind the 1 hour logon time
that's normal
it's a feature
odd sand
"Where is this endpoint located?" "Dunno... check the CIDR range chart and see what building its in and we can ask around"
jaunty light
heck we maintain oldschool copies lol I couldn't tell you where shit is located
odd sand
Instea of something sane like: Workstation, Building Name, Accounting
jaunty light
yeah we have 40 buildings or more and no real structure like that, if the solution is to reassign to a person in a diff bldg that's what they do rip
odd sand
And when you do that and assign the proper OUs, you connect the thing to the domain and it automatically downloads all the software for the STIG for Accounting
jaunty light
/0 all vlans baby
odd sand
Class A intranet, we got plenty to spare! /s
deep sapphire
odd sand
It's really sad bc when you put in the work upfront to set things up properly, it saves so much ongoing work its not even funny
Asset mgmt is another one where it seems like companies do a halfassed job
jaunty light
do i refer you to assets.xlsx
odd sand
And its a cascading failure of stupidity too when you dont have asset mgmt, nor proper ad usage, etc.
Bc then its like ... where is this? who is the poc?
jaunty light
at the very least if it's online, you can find it
odd sand
okay well its been fun ranting but its 2:30 I should go to bed ... more pluralsight awaits me in the morning! 
jaunty light
if not.. good luck
odd sand
My fav was before we had Ruckus wifi triangulation I had to take a tablet into the building and fucking dousing rod for rogue APs
odd sand
Smacking the wrists of every professor running an Apple Timemachine with open wifi.
jaunty light
My fav was before we had Ruckus wifi triangulation I had to take a tablet into t...
this makes you sound like a wizard
UNLEASH THE DOUSING ROD
BEGONE ROGUE MAGICAL USERS
odd sand
It basically was dousing bc i had wifi analyzer up and you're looking for the highest gain of course, then walking past and it starts dropping. Then you wonder if you're on the3 correct floor or if its above you lol
odd sand
and of course the teaching staff dont give af about security so when you ask them to lock stuff down you get this face
Best part was them going Karen on you, then you just block them from the network
jaunty light
odd sand
ok sleep for real
jaunty light
jaunty light
when the lambo driver spams their car at 9k rpm you know they mad
doubt they were the owner judging by who got in it tho who redlines their vehicle at idle
hanks fav song up on the playlist
decade old already 👴
sly elk
starting to see the vesa option studio displays lol
as great as the stand versions look, the vesa mount one looks awful lmao
? wth macbook did you order?>
that's a $1500 screen?
jaunty light
tf kind of arms are those
sly elk
huh
is that an expensive monitor mount?
this dude took it to the extreme lmao
they have their mic on an arm, a ring light on an arm
their desk is gonna look like optimus prime
jaunty light
those arms look lame as shit
jaunty light
dont tell me the fucking cables are in that hammock ass thing
sly elk
what's that?
OH
that's the price for the monitor itself with the vesa adapter
it's not adding 2399
can you imagine lol
don't buy a vesa monitor unless you're really going to put it on an arm though
because they don't come with a stand
it's a terrible design ><
I think they're awesome productivity screens but eh whatever floats your boat xD
jaunty light
hella terrible
jaunty light
just buy an 8k problem solved
sly elk
the hard part is 60hz is hard to argue because >60hz makes for nicer scrolling?
but then?
my 120hz alienware screen could give me motion sickness watching a video that pans across a room
or animated panning
there's something about panning that it doesn't matter how many Hz the screen is, most LCDs can't do it
jaunty light
1000000hz
sly elk
the achiles heel is the 5k resolution though
jaunty light
that's cuz the source framerate is the source framerate
sly elk
you can't push pixels out the interface faster than about 72hz
jaunty light
panning in cinema is a joke if they dont start using higher fps
sly elk
and i doubt many gpus will do 5k gaming faster than 60fps anyway
jaunty light
just make panning like 48fps instead lmfao
sly elk
the pro display does this better than the studio display fwiw
the prices are insane
but you buy the screen and then buy the stand or vesa mount, your choice
they should've done the studio display the same way
there is a stupid caveat though
you have to install the vesa adapter on the monitor before mounting it
you'd think they would've made it so you could mount the vesa adapter onto the arm and then just click the monitor into place
ah well
if they did this, the cheap stand would be $600 and the monitor would've cost $900
and people woulda lost their shit at that
jaunty light
also now that i notice it behind that desk seems to be some harbor freight cabinets lol
weakling
what is that 1/128 scale
why not spicy
smh
1/7 not bad, but rei fan? cringe
asuka for lyfe
jaunty light
but its an msi
sick edge
But its a 3090
sly elk
Icehunter in surprised you didn’t get a gundam pc case
modern iris
why aren't the fans in my 3070 ti spinning?
Do they not spin if they don't have to or? like meybe the heat in Graphic card isn't big enough to warrant it the moment it's not moving idk
modern iris
Thank you!
deep sapphire
wew
whats the redline on that puppy, 17K?
I always thought it was cool the Lexus LFA had a crazy exhaust system designed to simulate a Formula 1 note
lime oriole
I think they revved close to 20K yeah
Yeah, they could get up to 20K
Absolutely insane
deep sapphire
god damn thats insane
lime oriole
Have you seen when they make that engine play the british national anthem?
deep sapphire
haha nah
lime oriole
deep sapphire
lime oriole
Imagine how fucking LOUD that shit is
deep sapphire
nothin like a little hearing damage to start the morning
lime oriole
Yeeeeah man
deep sapphire
its crazy how fast those engines can rev
lime oriole
The Lexus LFA btw, one of my favourite cars ever
deep sapphire
piston rods are made of jesus' biceps or something wtf
lime oriole
deep sapphire
I respect the LFA for the dedication the team had making it, all the steps they took to make such an absolute perfect car
it breaks my heart that it sold poorly because of how many delays it had
I hope Lexus tries again
lime oriole
The japanese and their damn rotary engines
Orgasmic
Especially those old racing cars that just revved and revved and revved
deep sapphire
lime oriole
I respect the LFA for the dedication the team had making it, all the steps they ...
Yeah definitely.. They strived for absolute perfection for sure.
deep sapphire
Paul Newman in the old Nissans
lime oriole
😩
deep sapphire
lime oriole
I would love to have an old Trueno, AE86, but they're incredibly rare outside of Japan
And if you find one, they're real expensive
😓
lime oriole
deep sapphire
badges**
deep sapphire
Mazda is such an underrated car company
iirc Skyactiv engines have the highest compression ratio of any gasoline
like 15:1
fuckin insane
deep sapphire
16:3:1 according to wikipedia
16:1 holy shit
how does the bottom end not blow out
pretty cool, keeps the fuel and air mixture pre mixed and cool before it enters the combustion with optimal ratio
not that pre mixing is new, they did that with most fuel systems back in the day but I dont think they ever had it properly controlled. EFI systems only work so well
im biased though
I'll still take a big block
engine go rubb rubb rubb rubb rubb rubb
deep sapphire
they make a 632 big block now, 10.4 Litres of displacement
im amazed it even fits into anything
deep sapphire
Hahaha yeah it’s a crate engine and it’s not legal to use for street use
I’m sure someone will do it anyway
Makes 1000hp naturally aspirated though
Big boi
deep sapphire
Hoonigan does some crazy shit check them out on YouTube they do all makes
glossy magnet
Need someone with a bit more of a brain than I have when it comes to temperature and PC cooling.
If the ambient air in the room is X, then the ambient air in the case, which is used to cool the components cannot go lower than X, correct?
As I mentioned last week my GPU has been roughly around 83c when I have XIV open, and out of curiosity I cranked my GPU fans to 100% for 5 minutes with XIV open.
The temperatures did not drop, not even by 1c, with the fans going from 50-60% speed to 100%.
After closing the game and for again ~5 minutes after my GPU is now sitting around 40-53c with the fans at 100%.
Now I'm not saying my room is 83c pretty sure I'd be dead from heat stroke.
But my room is rather warm due to where I live, Florida only knows of Summer. If it's due to the ambient temperature in my room will I just not get below 83c?
(during the colder months I remember seeing ~60/70c when XIV was open, and eventually would rise to the 80s).
hard drift
A lot of things to factor, airflow, cooling capability, ambient temperature. Has nothing else changed?
Someone else will have to take over if i don’t respond, about to clock in for work
glossy magnet
The only thing that has changed is ambient room temps, due to the raising temperatures outside, my house gets hotter too.
Other than that I cleaned my PC up of dust and what not, I managed to spill a little tea in the case but it didn't really make too much of a mess inside.
A drop here and there. (cup was basically empty)
hard drift
How much has ambient increased because it’s very possible that’s the sole factor
glossy magnet
I don't monitor my room's actual temperature much, but the outside has gone from high 60s to low 90s over the past month or two (depending on the day)
right now it's ~80f outside my AC is set to 70 but my room is very noticeably warmer than the rest of the house.
hard drift
Well assuming ambient increased that much it’s very likely the reason. I’d keep a wall thermometer nearby to get an idea for the future
glossy magnet
I see.
I'll look into getting one, so basically nothing to worry about, to my knowledge 85c and around there is "normal" for a 980ti, albeit slightly high.
And considering my room temps even at 100% the fans won't really do that much in reducing temps, right?
assuming that is the reason the temp is what it is at.
hard drift
Yeah pretty much
Also depending on how old it is, could look at deep cleaning gpu/repasting it
glossy magnet
this card is pushing 8 years I think.
hard drift
Since you’ve owned it?
I’d deep clean and repaste it personally, might do some wonders
glossy magnet
Yeah since I've bought it.
Is that any more difficult than repasting a CPU and reseating it?
Same thermal paste can be used?
hard drift
Yes because of the fan cables and screws but not too complex usually
hard drift
Yeah since I've bought it.
Is that any more difficult than repasting a CPU and r...
New thermal paste you have yeah
Okay, shift is starting now so, find a video on teardown and then go from there on cleaning see if you can do it and go from there. Can help a fair bit
hard drift
Np, good luck
deep sapphire
this card is pushing 8 years I think.
The thermal paste is probably still serviceable but it wouldn’t hurt to repaste it, the biggest culprit is dust though, give it a good dusting and it should dramatically improve your temperatures if you don’t want to take your card apart
If it’s a blower style card those are notorious for accumulating a wall of dust at the edge of the heat sink and fan assembly which prohibits a lot of airflow
glossy magnet
I clean the dust out of my PC fairly often, it never really gets that dusty (aside from between the radiator and case/fans for the cpu).
This is the card I have.
Any dust would probably be in super compact areas like between the card and backplate or something.
where I can't get from casually cleaning
deep sapphire
Nah that wouldn’t really impact cooling as long as the heat sink is clean, the cooling between the components and heat sink is entirely passive. I would suggest repasting it then, buy some thermal pads for your power delivery components and video ram as well.
If your case has a dust filter make sure that’s clean as well
glossy magnet
It has a filter on the bottom and front.
front is where my intake is, bottom just has the PSU and an empty spot for a fan.
top has none, but is exhaust for the rad.
I clean those often as well.
I haven't used thermal pads before, any recommendations?
deep sapphire
Sounds good, rule out dust and airflow being the issue. As bidori said above probably just old crusty thermal paste
glossy magnet
paste too, considering the last one I used was also like 5 years ago, Artic Silver 5.
(for the cpu)
deep sapphire
Outus 30 Pieces 67 x 20 mm Silicone Thermal Pad Reusable Thermal Conductive Silicone Pad Each Thick 0.5/1/ 1.5 mm Pack of 10 Pieces for GPU Heatsink CPU Chip Heat Conduction or LED Heat Conduction https://www.amazon.com/dp/B094PWW9TM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_P0EA3BWBB511F9SDFN80
This is probably overkill but anything cheap is fine
Just use a pair of scissors to cut out the size you need
deep sapphire
paste too, considering the last one I used was also like 5 years ago, Artic Silv...
That would still work fine if you are comfortable with that brand. IC Diamond is also good
Thermal solder is another option that’s a permanent solution but has more risk to using it
glossy magnet
Do thermal pads replace the need for paste? 
the photos just show them throwing it on like every component in the pc lol
deep sapphire
Nope, these are for components that have composite cases like you see on memory modules and the like
Don’t use them on the GPU it doesn’t have enough heat transfer
glossy magnet
Ah ok.
They had a photo with a CPU so thought it was just like, a solid paste or something lol.
deep sapphire
Those typically use thermal paste but it’s in a pre defined square or circular application if that makes sense
These are a bit different
What you’re thinking of is common with solutions that are ready to go for the common person who doesn’t know or care about applying aftermarket compound and works good enough
glossy magnet
I see.
Just for the sake of comparison, are thermal pads like ice packs for a PC?
slap em on where heat builds up and help cool it?
deep sapphire
Just for the sake of comparison, are thermal pads like ice packs for a PC?
slap ...
They just help transfer heat by compressing material together to create more surface area
Thermal pads are better for components that have composite because thermal paste is a liquid metal and don’t transfer heat as well from a different material
glossy magnet
I see.
I'll keep the two products you mentioned down and see what I can do.
Thank you.
deep sapphire
No problem 😄
Yeah all thermal paste and pads do is create a surface bond that allows heat to transfer better due to hard surfaces not having perfect level, if any imperfections are created between 2 surfaces air will take up that space and heat won’t be able to transfer between those 2 surfaces well. Having a paste or pad helps remedy that
glossy magnet
deep sapphire
Lmao
glossy magnet
Does make me question their photos though.
Like this lol.
deep sapphire
Does make me question their photos though.
Like this lol.
Oh god wtf is this
glossy magnet
from the Amazon page you sent lol
deep sapphire
Hahaha
Maybe they just wanted to show the size or something I dunno
Usually those heat sinks used soldered thermal compound because they aren’t designed to be serviced for the life of the product
glossy magnet
They also have a photo of it just on a m.2 drive lol
deep sapphire
Soldered compound is basically a cement, once it’s set you can’t remove it, and if you try to remove the heat sink off with enough force you will end up destroying your processor
deep sapphire
It’s very rare those ever need to be serviced so should be fine on that 😄
glossy magnet
or if your mobo dies, gotta take it off to get the CPU lol.
I think I'll definitely stick with the paste/pads lol.
I do need a PC upgrade but not with the prices as they are now.
deep sapphire
Yeah just use a quality thermal paste on the GPU it’s more than fine
IC Diamond is a good option just place the tube in some hot tap water for 10 minutes before you apply it cause it’s pretty hard shit and you’ll have a hard time getting it out of the tube
glossy magnet
Ah ok.
I may as well repaste my CPU at the same time I guess lol.
deep sapphire
Yeah if it’s been about the same time frame doesn’t hurt
deep sapphire
glossy magnet
bought the paste with my PC components, and just kept it around.
It was still paste-like when I went to apply it so I figured it was fine.
I've thrown it out by now though.
deep sapphire
That’s alright I’m not even sure if it has a shelf life since it’s just liquid metal basically
If the jif peanut butter in my pantry expired in 2003 I’m sure your thermal paste is fine
I mean what
glossy magnet
lol
sly elk
Usually those heat sinks used soldered thermal compound because they aren’t desi...
That ones held on with spring loaded clips lol
Good morning
sly elk
deep sapphire
sly elk
I can’t help it. I went to bed late and had a cute dream that I was hunting monsters in a mall with a cute woman who happened to be my gf . Ok that might have been weird. 😂
Ooo and that was a wc
modest moss
Hank I got fucked in the lottery, hold me
hard drift
Outus 30 Pieces 67 x 20 mm Silicone Thermal Pad Reusable Thermal Conductive Sili...
led heat conduction
hard drift
Hank I got fucked in the lottery, hold me
i got saved by the lottery bug 
imagine somehow failing to exclude 0 from lottery pullings 
deep sapphire
I can’t help it. I went to bed late and had a cute dream that I was hunting mons...
Technology?
deep sapphire
Hank I got fucked in the lottery, hold me
What happened
random geyser
imagine somehow failing to exclude 0 from lottery pullings <:smug:62721979898370...
look count starts from 0, it's everybody elses fault
hard drift
What happened
you could only purchase a number not a zero and lottery was able to pick 0 for the drawing and it did for a ton of people including myself
deep sapphire
you could only purchase a number not a zero and lottery was able to pick 0 for t...
Ooooh that yeah
I thought he meant irl lottery lmao
deep sapphire
Yeah tell that to my dad
Dude buys powerballs every day
Like stop wasting your money ffs
outer sand
anyone knows what's the best way to add bluetooth connection to your PC? lol
how do people do it these days?
buy a PCE card?
random geyser
usb lol
hard drift
buy a PCE card?
i used a pcie card for a while since it was built into my wifi adapter
outer sand
i used a pcie card for a while since it was built into my wifi adapter
ic ic, yeah wondering if I should get this since USB sometimes can be very hot 👀
hard drift
either way will be fine generally speaking
outer sand
ok ty ty, I'lkl just get the usb for now
alright, just realised that I don't have any usb slot left ._.
nooooo
hard drift
time to get a hub 
sly elk
Technology?
I was on my phone and didn’t notice which channel I was in lol. Sorry
deep sapphire
I was on my phone and didn’t notice which channel I was in lol. Sorry
Lmao I’m just fucking with you it’s fine
random geyser
alright, just realised that I don't have any usb slot left ._.
get a pce usb expansion then get the usb adapter lol
outer sand
how does it work exactly the usb hub?
is it the same with usb splitter?
how can one tool turn 1 slot 2 slot that instantly? lol
no power problem?
it's not something like this right? @hard drift
hard drift
it's not something like this right? <@168185424286711808>
not that
outer sand
get a pce usb expansion then get the usb adapter lol
ohhh there's pcie for usb?
ic ic, I'll look into that as well
hard drift
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Extended-MacBook-Surface-Notebook/dp/B07L32B9C2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=7A9132IP4GS6&keywords=usb+hub&qid=1650147415&sprefix=usb+hub%2Caps%2C82&sr=8-3 i have something like this and it works just fine
but it's just for small things not full power and crap for devices
outer sand
I used to have exactly like this, but it stopped working like 1 day after I bought it ._.
have no idea why
hard drift
ah, idk mines lasted me since i got my laptop many years ago
the thing is probably 5+ years old
deep sapphire
USB is fine
hard drift
back when my device had pretty much only 2 usb ports lol
outer sand
what's the downside of the pcie usb one?
I reckon it will work normally like the original usb ports?
deep sapphire
Yeah it’ll be plug and play
Just get a 1x and slap it in the small slot
Windows will most likely have the drivers for it
potent arrow
I hope you aren't using Bluetooth for audio
Bluetooth audio on windows is
....special
deep sapphire
If not the vendor’s website will have drivers but I’m pretty confident windows will have drivers
outer sand
is this what we are talking about?
just to confirm
I'm just using normal 3.5 jack for my output lol
connected to a small size speaker
hard drift
is this what we are talking about?
is that an 8 pin power cable spot???
random geyser
ye
hard drift
that better not be an 8pin power connector slot...
outer sand
this is the back view
sly elk
that looks rather clearly like a molex
hard drift
oh is that molex 
sly elk
mini fit jr 4 pin
outer sand
so I connect the molex to my PSU? 😹
potent arrow
how can one tool turn 1 slot 2 slot that instantly? lol
The simple answer to that is USB itself, universal serial bus, the bus part basically means multiple devices can use this line to communicate. Each device has a unique address etc they essentially take turns talking and the controller on the splitter or on the board dictates how long each address talks for and when.
sly elk
nvm it's not a mini fit jr
sly elk
the 6/8/24 pin connectors are molex mini fit jr
hard drift
from the back it looked worse lol
potent arrow
Which is gross
quiet frigate
I love my Laptop...but dear god Nahimic Audo is utter poop in a sock. I wish i could replace it with audo software that does not crap out on me once every few days ._<
sly elk
hard drift
Which is gross
finally give that connector a use 😭
potent arrow
Oh they always had a use
hard drift
the trash
potent arrow
Setting a computer on fire when an idiot used the wrong adapter
outer sand
The simple answer to that is USB itself, universal serial bus, the bus part basi...
so it's not constantly ._.
sly elk
i'm looking for a name for the 4 pin used on drive bays and that stupid card
potent arrow
so it's not constantly ._.
Huh? No it works
I'm just bad at explaining things
It also splits power and stuff
random geyser
it's just like onr of those outlet expansion thingie
outer sand
ah yeah, so it splits power
outer sand
yeah, I want to have a microphone that doesn't take so much space and works like wireless lavalier mic
random geyser
yikes
outer sand
I don't like wearing a big headphone or a big mic like those streamers..
I will just use it to raid/communicate while doing content
outside that I will turn mic off
I totally understand that I will need a wireless eaphone + mic, and I already have that
potent arrow
I only see pain in your future
random geyser
double yikes
potent arrow
If you want wires mic use a none bt one with dedicated dongle
random geyser
hopefully you're not the shot caller
outer sand
so just need a bluetooth connector 😹
potent arrow
Like a Logitech headset
outer sand
yeah I don't want wired* mic either unfortunately 😦
sly elk
OH HERE IT IS
potent arrow
Otherwise, expect it to work a few times and then random disconnects, trouble connecting/pairing, audio stuttering etc down the line
sly elk
molex 8981 or AMP MATE-N-LOK
outer sand
Otherwise, expect it to work a few times and then random disconnects, trouble co...
really? 🤔 but I use this bluetooth earphone with my phone all the time
potent arrow
Your phone
outer sand
Does it work differently with PC?
potent arrow
Is not windows
sly elk
sly elk
In October 1963, AMP (now TE Connectivity) introduced the Mate-n-Lok connector.[3] The AMP connector was similar to the patented Molex connectors but not interchangeable. Both were widely used in the computer industry and the term "Molex connector" is often inaccurately used to refer to all nylon plugs and receptacles.
potent arrow
And an afront to man
sly elk
hahahahaha
potent arrow
@sly elk fucking NEEEEERD
outer sand
dahell, I enver knew
sly elk
this bothers me
i wonder how often the amp connector is used and mixed with molex connectors
The Molex 8981 series was only produced in a 4 position option, unlike the Mate-n-Lok family which includes many other contact arrangements. Molex has since discontinued the 8981 series, but the original Mate-n-Lok connectors remain available from TE Connectivity.
outer sand
ok, maybe this is it for now, I'll research further later 😹 ty ty for the info
sly elk
so if you see one of those now it's not even made by molex anymore
oh i'm sorry for going off the deep end on that one xD
outer sand
maybe I'll try it first with my surface and see if this bluetooth earpiece+mic works..
sly elk
so here's the problem
if you buy a bluetooth headset that has a mic
there are 2 modes it can be used in, maybe 3
it can be used as headphones or as a headset with mic
potent arrow
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/why-is-windows-10-bluetooth-so-so-so-bad/1fa5538f-4162-4d87-9bb3-4d6f09f04483?page=3
https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/kx42cp/why_is_windows_so_bad_at_handling_bluetooth/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/awtg17/i_hate_windows_10_bluetooth_managment/
@outer sand just Google windows 10 but issues
Lots of pain
sly elk
the audio quality for headphones is great
potent arrow
Lots of suffering
sly elk
once you enable the mic, the sound quality becomes awful
potent arrow
sly elk
is that your issue?
potent arrow
Audio stream gets hogged right?
outer sand
I haven't tried it yet, so I got no issue 😹
sly elk
you can remedy this by using a separate mic
potent arrow
No kyanche I'm just warning them
sly elk
ah ok
potent arrow
About windows bt audio drivers
sly elk
-shrug-
potent arrow
They are dookieeee
sly elk
like I can use my airpods with my desktop and go to my bedroom's bathroom
and still get reception
potent arrow
I've never had it work properly for me or the people I support lol
outer sand
if not then i have no idea how to solve this, cause I don't want to add extra cable 😹
sly elk
with my work laptop (macbook pro) the sound drops out about halfway there lol
potent arrow
lol
sly elk
bluetooth can have ridiculous range though
sly elk
when I was in uni I was in the lab one day playing around with a transceiver
I took it out of the lab and my friend and I were like wtf
it worked all the way downstairs lol
outer sand
I only ever used the bluetooth earphone but not with mic, It works great yeah
sly elk
admittedly, it was a fairly unimpeded clear shot because I was standing in the lobby sending commands and the transceiver was sitting at the end of a hallway in a room upstairs so
outer sand
but once I forgot to take off my earphone and went to the toilet, It will turn to speakers by default
sly elk
lol I pulled the same stunt at work one day with a bluetooth keyboard
outer sand
👀 embarassing moment
sly elk
lol 😄
better than taking them to the toilet
and your other person hearing you using the toilet xD
outer sand
so all people in the room knew what kind of songs I was listening (anime song) >.>
rip reputation
sly elk
oh that happens in the car somteimes if I use one of the "made for you" playlists that has like 99.99% jazz
and usually one rap song or anime song
outer sand
lol
sly elk
i'm kinda surprised nobody makes a bluetooth headset that presents as a separate mic and headphones
sand fern
so all people in the room knew what kind of songs I was listening (anime song) >...
RIP reputation? I'd be proud to wear that on my sleeve. Or vidya gaem music.
sly elk
I imagine it would run into issues on devices that can't handle it
yea i don't think it's necessarily about reputation
just not wanting to break the vibe with your music lol
outer sand
RIP reputation? I'd be proud to wear that on my sleeve. Or vidya gaem music.
not when the vibe isn't suitable with the music lol
yeah
sly elk
like i turn mine off at drive throughs or whatever
sand fern
not when the vibe isn't suitable with the music lol
Uuuuh, what kind of vibe did you blast into the ether then?
Err... music.
outer sand
kimetsu no yaiba ost for example
sand fern
Oh, that's kind of... battle focused isn't it?
outer sand
the mugen train theme, the epic rengoku inspiring soundtrack to keep me going lol
yeah
sand fern
That's kind of my go to as well, I'll be honest. Just having some epic music on while you work to carry you through the day.
But yea, I don't want that music blasting for everyone to hear.
outer sand
exactly this https://youtu.be/SVhHhtG4DPM 😹
sly elk
hehe i used to use the zelda orchestra soundtrack thing for that sorta work
epic music ftw
i hvae a few playlists, one is mostly mia regina lol
lost python
Guys why isn't there a single Mainboard manufacturer that can create a simple, nice and well performing software to control fans, RGB etc?
Why is every single one a convoluted mess that feels like it's held together by scraps and duct tape?
modest moss
deep sapphire
Guys why isn't there a single Mainboard manufacturer that can create a simple, n...
Ask the EU to mandate it
sly elk
Guys why isn't there a single Mainboard manufacturer that can create a simple, n...
that's why i bought a commander pro 😄
lian li has something that does this now, too
and there's also the aquacomputer stuff
the problem with all that rgb thouhg
i need to get some vhb tape to fix the things falling off lol
inland mauve
yes
late pier
https://mobile.twitter.com/naftalibennett/status/1514661060011245571
Wow, real laser interception system 👀 congratulations to Israel.
somber solar
So thats what all the money we give them goes to
deep sapphire
this is actually a pretty important technology
the current C-RAM is pretty effective but its still projectiles
hard drift
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n5Aw9n1YP1c
i love c-rams
it's terrifying when they're going off though
deep sapphire
i love c-rams <:Pog:533390478360444928>
dude in my unit was telling me how a mortar landed into his barracks but in the room adjacent to him but it never went off
imagine being that close to death fuck sake
hard drift
i'd believe it
yeah but hey, atleast you have a story not that most people want that kind of story
although some do join for stories like that 😐
deep sapphire
lmao fuck that
just chillin on base and hearing that alarm
like basically no where safe to run
hard drift
yeah, it's not fun especially since you have to figure out where is safe if you're outside
hard drift
reminds me of when my dad played xiv
during a skype call that was going off and he had to leave in the middle of a duty
deep sapphire
other guys in the party are probably like "uuuuh h-he isnt gonna die is he?"
deep sapphire
"I love you son"
"eugh... gotta find another tank now thanks"
hard drift
pfft he played healer lol
odd sand
Isn't that why they put up the construction cement partitions, so you can dive behind them if there is incoming fire?
deep sapphire
Isn't that why they put up the construction cement partitions, so you can dive b...
yes but isnt always predictable where it will land, hell most of the time it lands no where near its target
but the C-RAM systems are pretty good at defusing the situation
odd sand
I suppose they can see better than you, so just look for the BWWRRRRRRR tracers
deep sapphire
haha pretty much
odd sand
Supposedly the Muskva had point defenses as well, but shared radar with the AA, so didnt see the missiles coming in the blind spot
sly elk
sly elk
hehe
I like how sony laptops used to have a chime
(the desktops did, too)
(and it sounded really sweet if you had a good set of speakers)
lmao it has the internet explorer bar
sick edge
not gonna lie I like the old vaio chassis
sly elk
no need to lie
sick edge
its adequately big enoigh to just stuff amy other laptops internals into jt
I dunno what that is..m we got our fron corcuit city
sick edge
You thinknVR arcades will ever ytake off? or its too much of a gimmick?
jaunty light
this needs to come back bruh
sly elk
the whole first floor of the building was sony themed lol
they had that bar, a microsoft store
they had these kiosks advertising vaios
I can't remember what else except I never bought anything there lol
because sony shit was expensive yo
one of the funny things was when apple built the first apple store in SF
it was almost directly facing the metreon
they both pointed at each other diagonally across a block
sly elk
man
looking at the picture of the back of my tower makes me wanna redo it or just do something different entirely lol
jaunty light
see ya in 5 yrs
Ps6? More like 10+
I weny through 6 PCs by the time it took 360 to xbone
The current one* not old
Be surprised if we see regular generation upgrades on a more timely schedule
outer sand
you reckon It will have a space for this? no yeah?
so I'll need to get rid of the current pcie? also I don't get where I will get the molex from
is it from my PSU?
jaunty light
Might be better to relo the bottom to the top to see if it interferes with your fan shroud
Looks smaller overall
sly elk
huh
looks like lots of room
remember the card is facing down
the molex connector will also be facing down
oh hah nvm I see what you're trying to do now
didn't realize the slot that wifi adapter thingy is in, was filled
you could move that one up
or maybe do some hacky bs with a riser cable
outer sand
I don't mind removing the wifi one, it's very old one and I bought it when I stayed in another house where I didn't have access to ethernet right beside my PC
yeah, maybe I'll just do that, might be too risky to put the GPU way too close to the PCIE
sly elk
there's no risk if they aren't touching
outer sand
the chip in the PC doesn't heat up?
yeah I realised it too late that I no longer used the wifi card ._.
sharp kernel
Can I post here about pc help?
outer sand
I should've just removed it long before
sly elk
yea!
outer sand
yeah, they helped me twice already 😹
sharp kernel
Alright Im pasting then
Hello guys.
I already bought few things. What I got is:
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard - Asus Rog Strix B550-E
SSD - Samsung 980 Pro
RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB
PSU - Asus Rog Strix 750W 80 Plus Gold
As for case I have totally no idea, was thinking about Pure Base 500DX but I'm not sure, cooler - noctua nh-d15 but I saw some alternatives like Scythe Fuma so Im not sure here aswell (dont even know if it would match in the case) and gpu - 3070ti/3080 with 3 fans of course. Second ssd is not a problem that's why not mentioned.
I hope somebody can put me on the right direction because I'm a total greeny in that. It's the first pc Im building.
Thanks!
@ me please!
sly elk
but vielen you'll probably be fine, if it fits. looks like the wifi card doesn't even get to where the fans are
and even if they were almost touching, yea no worries about heat
i expect the 5600x doesn't run that hot, so any of those CPU coolers should be fine
the nh-d15 is always a top recommendation for air coolers because it will probably keep your temps lowest and be the quietest.... might even be a little overkill for a 5600x, no harm in that though
as for the case, I think it will be a balance between your budget, your taste, and performance?