technology-discussion

[paper tusk]

and the pleather seat covering

[sly elk]

insert joke here about using pleather seat coverings in a microbussss

yea they totally missed the mark

this thing should be available with drain plugs in the floor like the wrangler has

and vinyl seats standard

and optional window curtains

no hippy bus is complete without the curtains yo

it's really funny because the kombi last edition had them

not sure if they were optional or included

tbh I'm bothered at how annoyed I am by their half baked microbus wannabe lol

[paper tusk]

I think it's ok it's just so mediocre especially for the projected asking price (45k usd)

[sly elk]

yea I think it's even cool and I'd consider one if I were buying a vehicle of that size. it's a hell of a lot cooler than the alternatives

[paper tusk]

for that money would rather go with a more capable domestic brand

[sly elk]

tbh

it's close to when dodge brought back the charger lol 😄

except not really i guess :\

the charger was brought back in the 80s as a 5 door fwd hatchback, the current iteration is a 4 door sedan but that's because selling a giant 2 door coupe would be utter insanity

the challenger did sell a lot better than I thought it would though

[paper tusk]

I kinda wish stellantis would just mercy kill dodge and chrysler (and have ram as the get shit done brand and a new brand for everyone else)

[sly elk]

I wish they'd double down on chrysler

that's what I'd do if I were them

[paper tusk]

would make sense as a near premium brand but kinda requires having more products than pacifica/voyager (for fleet) and the 300

[sly elk]

I think their brands are all practically worthless though

they all have extremely negative connotations associated with them

I think Jalopnik said it was easy to trash talk stellantis because they basically put all the world's worst car brands together under 1 roof

anyway, yea, I'd bring back the PT Cruiser

EV Cruiser

maybe revisit the chrysler supercar idea

[boreal surge]

Actually quick question, why do big car companies still bother with the performance cars and the funky stuff?

[sly elk]

probably because otherwise they'd have a hard time getting employees xD

oo I know

i'd use citroen's weird hydraulic suspension and make a chrysler luxo barge

[boreal surge]

Yeah, but if nobody bothered with making those types of cars you wouldn’t have a choice unless you want an entirely different industry completely

[sly elk]

maybe make a commercial where someone sees a bentley drive by and mistake it for a chrysler 300

and then some other rap dude is like nah bruh that's just a bentley

[boreal surge]

Like processed food industry hires well enough.

And I’m pretty sure my assumption of how unsexy it is is on the mark.

[sly elk]

it used to be a much bigger deal really

like companies have always been doing weird looking concept cars

[boreal surge]

I’d also like to mention how stellantis has zero brand value in Asia (well in my opinion)

[sly elk]

afaik chrysler is one of the few that actually decided to produce them most of the time

[boreal surge]

And I don’t just mean China like when everyone else says asia

[sly elk]

like I said, all of their brands

[boreal surge]

Though to be fair, most non luxury western car brands have zero value in asia

[sly elk]

i expect it to just be: toyota, mercedes, bmw

everyone knows this lol

like that's not even an asia thing

[kindred brook]

Man we knew it was coming

Rip

[sly elk]

that's an africa thing, an australia thing

[kindred brook]

That neon gas

[sly elk]

TSMC said they don't use it

[kindred brook]

Oh

[sly elk]

don't worry, I'm sure it'll still lead to prices skyrocketing

[kindred brook]

So can I expect nvidia prices

[sly elk]

because why not

[kindred brook]

To be ok

Damnit

God damn it

:(

[sly elk]

grand tour used to joke about love for alfa romeos being a sign of mental illness

in a kind of round about way

[hard drift]

lmao no, prices are going to be bad for a few years still willing to bet

[kindred brook]

[hard drift]

not to mention high end will probably actually go up

[kindred brook]

So like is waiting a bad idea lol

Are prices just going to go up if I wait

[hard drift]

i mean waiting is never a bad idea if you don't need it right now

[kindred brook]

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

[hard drift]

stop worrying about price hikes, they're going to happen no matter what pretty much

[kindred brook]

Man lol

I will see reviews for 5800x3

That's going to be ddr4 right

[hard drift]

yeah 🤨 it's the same socket still

[kindred brook]

Interesting interesting

[hard drift]

the only thing that might be concerning just based on rumors is overclocking being asked to be disabled for it which could be for many reasons but the most likely/concerning reason would be it's really unstable if you go past what they set as the base/boost

[kindred brook]

Oh

[hard drift]

i mean most people shouldn't overclock it anyways

[kindred brook]

Yeah going to wait for reviews

[deep sapphire]

Avoid it

It’s AMD

[kindred brook]

Ok I listen to hank

He's the only honest opinion here

Not biased

USA usa USA

https://tenor.com/view/sfv-guile-street-fighter-street-fighter-gif-5349918

[sly elk]

x86 cuz MURRICA

[kindred brook]

Just like imperial systemn

[deep sapphire]

USA USA USA

[sly elk]

-takes over intel-

"Intel announces new 0.2756 microinch process"

[deep sapphire]

Nobody cares about your micro inch penis /s

[sly elk]

according to wolfram alpha this would be a 2356461/8550293904209 inch process

it sounds much worse than 7nm

ah, better.

7nm roughly = 1/3628447 inch process

there. done. imperial processors.

[jaunty light]

hey that's a lot of microinches baby

[boreal surge]

insert that MGS american NANOINCHES BABY

[modest moss]

always tell an American girl your size in metric just don't give away your system

'yeah baby I'm packing a full 9'

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

American girls be like

[modest moss]

no words

[odd sand]

Got my TV, soundbar, and PC setup at the new apartment. Now lack the energy to put together the new computer chair, so im slumming in my camp chair at my desk atm

[sly elk]

I am suddenly reminded of that bot on reddit that converts measurements to random objects

that shows up when somebody posts about something being 3000km away

and it's like

3000km is approximately 494 samsung side by side refrigerators

[hard drift]

True though 😭

[odd sand]

See! All done! /s

[urban zephyr]

Can ffxiv run on Linux? My partner is wondering

[modest moss]

with some tinkering apparently yes

haven't done it personally but I'm sure @potent arrow said they do

[potent arrow]

SPECS

[potent arrow]

runs fine on proton

[odd sand]

It's just a rice and bean burrito from the dollar menu. I always get one of those along with a combo bc just the combo these days isn't enough to eat usually

[urban zephyr]

With the official launcher or the xivlauncher?

[modest moss]

is your monitor bigger than your tv or is that just a weird photo perspective thing?

[sly elk]

taco bell?

[odd sand]

Weird perspective, it's actually a 55" TV like 5ft behind the monitor

I need to figure out where to put my computer desk though. I have it here for now, but my parents are going to give me their current couch

[potent arrow]

no no

I want to know whats in the taco

[odd sand]

So either I move this 90 degrees and put it in the corner, or maybe try to squeeze it in behind the couch. I'm just afraid the couch would be too close to the TV then

[modest moss]

looks like a pretty decent seating arrangement unless you'll be entertaining often

[jaunty light]

thats obviously a burrito

[sly elk]

-squeezes burrito behind couch-

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

why are you looking at other people's burritos

[jaunty light]

I only have eyes for your burrito

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PAJdo6QkFY

tune in

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

Weeb

[deep sapphire]

wha

[hard drift]

You heard me weeb

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ovXSSCaL0

[jaunty light]

[hard drift]

My dad’s the true weeb 😔 fell asleep on the couch watching anime

[deep sapphire]

imagine having a dad that watches anime

[hard drift]

Lmfao my whole family practically does

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfCGHopmBwA

best anime

[hard drift]

Is that detective conan or whatever?

[deep sapphire]

yeah

Case Closed for the dubbed version

they changed it because they were afraid Conan O'Brien would file a trademark dispute

which he then made a whole skit about anyway

LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9hPmHzkcUA

MISS IOWA

[jaunty light]

MINNA SAMA

[deep sapphire]

https://reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/tbthjj/psa_newer_tplink_routers_send_all_your_web/

Yikes

[sly elk]

oof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRSswjWNjbw it seems he has a trd pro now

[jaunty light]

this is a joke interview right

[sly elk]

no at least until recently

afaik that was his daily driver for real

[jaunty light]

is that a god damn cop on a fucking scooter?

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYPBPZ_qcQs

[modest moss]

yeah that's shady af

[jaunty light]

whats more yikes are fuckin redditors

SO much this. Muggles, and even a lot of tech saavy folks, never even think to check their router DNS settings.

[deep sapphire]

Lmao

Yeah you normies should never change it from auto!

Most people don’t care nor need to, maybe TP Link shouldn’t fuckin collect data on the backend and act like they aren’t

[sly elk]

security

[deep sapphire]

That’s what you get for buying cheap shit

[jaunty light]

this is a bit of misinformation anyways

[sly elk]

that reminds me of a thing

I think a lot of AVs probably do something similar, too.

they'll send every web request to their servers to make sure it's ok

[jaunty light]

the op seems to misunderstand what it's doin

[sly elk]

lol I'd bet money unifi does the same thing

[deep sapphire]

I can’t remember I think it was Tyan when they accused them of having a secret chip that supposedly phone homed to China and it was complete bullshit lmao

[sly elk]

haha

supermicro

[deep sapphire]

Super micro that’s it

[jaunty light]

wasn't supermicro part of some fbi nsa whatever the alphabet agency thing in the past couple of years

but they were adding shit to mainboards

[sly elk]

on the plus side, if unifi does sketch stuff with dns

it's a murrican company

[deep sapphire]

That’s what Bloomberg accused them of

But they denied it completely and proved it had no such chip

[sly elk]

i'm not a huge fan of buying chinese routers

but that's more because the firmware annoys me

[deep sapphire]

I doubt unifi would collect tons of data and store it for no reason

[sly elk]

even if they did

I don't think they would make a competent enough search engine hahahahahhaha

[deep sapphire]

Just make your own router with pf sense

[sly elk]

too lazy

[deep sapphire]

It does suck to automate

[sly elk]

unifi is easy... most.. of the time

[deep sapphire]

But it has a pretty user friendly UI I’ll give it that

[sly elk]

unless you wait too long to update the firmware on your router

and then it's too new to talk wirelessly to the AP you haven't updated yet

[deep sapphire]

Lmao

[sly elk]

i so regretted that one

when it all works properly it's amazing

you can unbox a new AP and just plug it into power, and open the unifi app on your phone, and it'll identify the AP wirelessly and give you the option to add it wirelessly

they ripped off apple's airpods thingy

https://youtu.be/noC8t8nwji4?t=142 it's kinda funny

[jaunty light]

I like to read on things then realize I am too dumb to understand

[0x00404603]> pdf ; CALL XREFS from fcn.004034b4 @ 0x403651, 0x4036c8 ; CALL XREF from fcn.00404618 @ 0x40466d ┌ 21: fcn.00404603 (); │ 0x00404603 4883ec08 sub rsp, 8 │ 0x00404607 488d3dba5d00. lea rdi, qword str.echo__whatever______su___2___dev_null ; r9 │ ; 0x40a3c8 ; "echo \"whatever\n\" | su - 2> /dev/null" ; const char *string │ 0x0040460e e88dcaffff call sym.imp.system ; int system(const char *string) │ 0x00404613 4883c408 add rsp, 8 └ 0x00404617 c3 re

[deep sapphire]

I don’t think it ever had a massive impact on average consumers and were largely combated by OS mitigation

So I doubt this will have a major impact either

[modest moss]

unabomber?

[boreal surge]

Mmmm actually owed tax cause of stock value

[odd sand]

I need to call Spectrum tomorrow. Their routing is fucky.

@deep sapphire Why are you hijacking my routing into Minnesota when I'm trying to go thru Chicago?

Tracing route to www.google.com [172.217.0.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms lag-63.hcr09ftbgwiie.netops.charter.com [96.34.28.48]
4 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms lag-209.crr01ftbgwi.netops.charter.com [96.34.30.116]
5 20 ms 21 ms 17 ms lag-700.crr02rochmn.netops.charter.com [96.34.25.137]
6 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms lag-2.crr01rochmn.netops.charter.com [96.34.25.166]
7 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms lag-207.crr01stcdmn.netops.charter.com [96.34.25.0]
8 28 ms 22 ms 23 ms lag-301.bbr01stcdmn.netops.charter.com [96.34.1.188]
9 49 ms 52 ms 48 ms lag-1.bbr02chcgil.netops.charter.com [96.34.1.149]
10 49 ms 49 ms 50 ms lag-802.prr01chcgil.netops.charter.com [96.34.3.11]
11 47 ms 46 ms 47 ms prr01chcgil-gbe-0-7-0-3.chcg.il.charter.com [96.34.152.117]
12 50 ms 51 ms 49 ms 216.239.56.7
13 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms 142.251.231.69
14 48 ms 49 ms 49 ms ord38s42-in-f4.1e100.net [172.217.0.164]

Goes 6hrs away into Minnesota to route to Chicago

[boreal surge]

Well yeah it gets treated as income

so witholdings really

brain whirr ah you want to try get gains on it to cover your taxes.

[jaunty light]

seattle sux

[boreal surge]

Well food density here sucks I will say

Urgh god thinking about the fact I have to live for 50 more years is painful

[jaunty light]

i can fix that

[sly elk]

bunbun!

[potent arrow]

Bunnn

Lmfao I'm tireeed reee

[sly elk]

it looks cuuute

[potent arrow]

God tmmrw is gonna suck

[jaunty light]

who dare wipe their face with bun

rabbit good food

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-rabbit-bunny-gif-11190286

[glass wadi]

my monitor started doing this thing where it starts flickering if i leave it on a static image for too long

[jaunty light]

what an ominous image

found in a resident evil game looking ass photo

[glass wadi]

means i have to set the brightness to 0 and wait for it to stop flickering

guess it's time to get a new monitor

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-class-gpu-with-600w-tgp-has-reportedly-been-confirmed @deep sapphire

[latent grotto]

600W

[hard drift]

and that's before partner models

[latent grotto]

Good thing I got a 1000w psu I guess

[hard drift]

not going to be enough at this rate

[latent grotto]

But I dont have the right cable connectors

[hard drift]

i believe adapters will be sold

[latent grotto]

Sounds kinda jank

And ugly

[hard drift]

it wouldn't be that bad

just hope it's not in the centerish of the gpus

[real edge]

600w tdp lmao

are we building space heaters

[hard drift]

soon ™️

which begs the question, does that mean 4080 will be around 3090/3090ti power draw?

[jaunty light]

Videocardz: theoretically supposedly new generation GPU leaked reportedly

Bidoricardz

[hard drift]

no

[hard drift]

You didn’t wait 🤨

[potent arrow]

[deep sapphire]

no comment

no fucking comment

GOD JUST STOP

yeah im building my new chevy

she's pretty

[modest moss]

what speed ram does it have?

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-kristen-bell-ornery-im-just-saying-gif-17064978

[deep sapphire]

im still on the waiting list for the tundra, if they try to put a 10 grand market adjustment on it im walking and putting a charge back on the 500 dollar deposit lol

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod/amv-prod-cad-assets/images/media/267321/1994-dodge-ram-1500-photo-557019-s-original.jpg

it has this speed ram

[modest moss]

Ice, why don't you just drop an i7 in that box and be done with it?

[deep sapphire]

did you know they offered the V10 that they used in the Viper

only difference is the truck engine has cast iron heads and block while the viper was aluminum heads

what a beast

[modest moss]

head, you said head

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-and-butt-head-laughing-gif-19758205

[deep sapphire]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b7/f3/da/b7f3da36703b3c3a8a6908c7329e461f.jpg

I had a friend that had this engine, it got like 6-8 MPG

yeah no shit right, thankfully this was made in the early 90s so gas prices didnt matter back then

hence why they had giant engines with no efficiency at all

chevy wasnt much better then either they had the 7.4L 454 big block and then later an 8.1 572 big block

the 572 was pretty rare

oh sorry it was 502 cu in

[hard drift]

🤢

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/N5hR9jc.png

[jaunty light]

disgusting

I saw a new silverado body with a flatbed from the 80s it was amusing

[deep sapphire]

[deep sapphire]

I love how the 2.7 Inline 4 they offer has almost as much torque as the 6.2 V8 but they dont offer the 2.7 in anything above an LT trim

that V8 really needs a supercharger or something

[jaunty light]

its not a turbo?

[deep sapphire]

the inline 4 is, the V8 is NA

[jaunty light]

I thought everyone was slapping a turbo on their v8

[deep sapphire]

and most people will argue "well turbos arent reliable" yeah neither is the V8 when it drops a lifter at 500 miles

[jaunty light]

cough hemis

[deep sapphire]

the new "ecotec" V8s are really bad

hemi's have lifter issues at like 100,000 miles

these are literally failing within hundreds of miles

I have no idea how widespread it is but there is a class action about it

[jaunty light]

i was just mindlessly looking at engine problems of shit one day and it was "rolled into the shop" 5k mile ram 1500 v8, that thingy that does spinny stuff is ruined and it's like $4k to replace

i know a lot of engine terminology i know

[deep sapphire]

the eTorque motor?

[jaunty light]

its a long shaft thing with like uhh, tear shaped shits on it

camshaft?

[deep sapphire]

long shaft.... tear...

oh

yeah

thats pretty odd to see that fail

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/12/general-motors-v8-engine-valve-lifter-lawsuit-claims-recall-is-needed/

what good is fuel savings if it costs a new engine lol

its honestly why I am wanting a Tundra

[potent arrow]

Meanwhile me over here seriously considering a truck after loving the ranger so much

[deep sapphire]

Toyota actually grills the shit out of their vendors to make sure they dont produce defective dog shit

[potent arrow]

[deep sapphire]

KEEP ON TRUCKIN MMHMMM

[potent arrow]

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/roadhouse-gif-5901936

[potent arrow]

I really might :|

[deep sapphire]

should get a maverick

nice little cheap small pickup

dont tell @modest moss

🛻

[potent arrow]

I mean the XL is within the budget...

[deep sapphire]

F-150 XL?

how much more does it cost to upgrade to an XLT

[potent arrow]

10k

A lot

[deep sapphire]

I dunno how bad the lower trims are on Fords, probably not as bad as Chevy

fuckin Chevy still putting the old interiors in the W/T and Custom lol

[potent arrow]

Eww lol

Ooorrr do I fix a truck for cheaper.....

Then again... Canadian rust...

[hard drift]

First chevy bad 😮

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/UHbnRzm.jpeg

such a massive upgrade

no, chevy's old interior was legit bad

they released a new model in 2019 but used the outgoing interior from the 2014 model while literally everyone else had much nicer interiors

I dont like Ford but I'll give them credit where its due, the interiors are much nicer and they offer way more powertrain options

you want a V8? here you go. You want a nice 2.7 V6 that sips on gas but still provides power if you need it? here you go

GM is like here's this dinosaur V8 that gets spanked by a V6

[potent arrow]

Somehow insurance is cheaper if I go truck too...

[deep sapphire]

insurance on trucks is generally pretty cheap

[modest moss]

delete both feet

[umbral moss]

that's because GM would have to spend research and engineering resources on making new powertrains and GM isn't known for that

[deep sapphire]

well the funny thing is the V8s are new for 2019

[umbral moss]

yeah, but they're a design from 1997

[deep sapphire]

but 460 lbs ft of torque while not horrible, isnt anything I would write home about

yeah but thats what makes the small block great

"nooooo you cant just still make push rod 2 valve motors"

[umbral moss]

honestly, I'm over using combustion engines for high TQ applications

wake me when you have a real snail gear enabled electric motor

[deep sapphire]

EVs are great, they just need to solve the power delivery issue

[umbral moss]

hope you enjoy 1500lb-ft of torque

[deep sapphire]

I think in 10 years

EVs will be an obvious benefit

[umbral moss]

to be totally fair, ICE trucks also eat shit when you load them down with heavy payloads

it's not like an EV will die faster than the transaxle will overheat on an ICE

[deep sapphire]

oh I know, but they arent gimped by range in cold weather, dont have to worry about 80 percent of the charging stations not working correctly etc.

[umbral moss]

charging is a dumpster fire at the moment because nobody wants to actually maintain the things

CHPT and blink are like "oh yeah, we deployed 80k new stations this year"

[deep sapphire]

hopefully with the government helping out, that will change

[umbral moss]

"but fuck if we're going to actuallly make sure they work in six months"

[deep sapphire]

electrify america was clearly VW saying "there we made the charge networks now fuck off"

[umbral moss]

the biggest brain strategy I saw was someone proposing to turn rest stops on the highways into EV charging stations

[deep sapphire]

that makes a lot of sense to me

[umbral moss]

but they'd have to repeal some stupid ass federal law that prevents you from having commercial outlets at rest stops

[deep sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/tci5dj/for_those_thinking_virginia_state_police_hanging/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[umbral moss]

I just want to drive a nice looking EV that isn't a truck or an egg 😔

[deep sapphire]

that new KIA looks pretty badass

https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveForLandlords/comments/tckk1m/me_taking_my_3_year_old_son_to_his_first_eviction/

oops lmao

https://www.kia.com/us/en/ev6

that post is funny so fuck it keeping it up

https://i.4cdn.org/o/1646796762234.jpg

[sly elk]

it's not bad, though iw ish they didn't do that 'phone shelf' in the middle of the arm rest

seems like a great place to accidentally stick your elbow

[deep sapphire]

those are pretty massive so you should be fine

[sly elk]

yea it's nice. but then you get outside and it's like

yuck 😄

[deep sapphire]

I dont mind it, at first I hated it but seeing it in larger pics makes it look pretty decent

of course thats subjective

[sly elk]

oh wow it has that shifter

[deep sapphire]

like the outgoing design people loved it or hated it

[sly elk]

the one that pops back to center after you shift

[deep sapphire]

sadly

[sly elk]

I'm surprised anyone still has the balls to use that

that's the shifter that killed the star trek dude

[deep sapphire]

the column shifter is still available on the work trucks

[sly elk]

err maybe i should be more specific

that type of shifter

I HATE IT SO MUCH

[deep sapphire]

they changed the design so that it pretty much goes into park asap when you push it up

plus I think if you open the door now

it automatically puts it into park

[sly elk]

yea it engages the parking brake and goes into park

chrysler fucked it up when they did it because they paired it with a manual parking brake

but the reason I hate that shifter design stems beyond that

I dunno about the GM one, but the chrysler one tried to "feel like" a regular shifter

[deep sapphire]

not the first time they've had issues with its shifters

back in the 90s abunch of people got killed because they never had brake shift interlock

[sly elk]

and that 'fake real shifter' feel

[deep sapphire]

which funnily enough I remember I was with my friend matt when we were kids and I was leaning up against the door in his mom's caravan and he engaged the transmission but I didnt even notice it at the time, the driveway was mostly flat but I could feel it was pushing against me slightly

[sly elk]

yikes

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=corrR7Wx8Bo

here it is

it was pretty common not to have brake shift interlock in the early 90s but most automakers put it in in the early 90s

so its kinda ridiculous they never put it in before 2001

[potent arrow]

Hank what's your take in the r1500

[deep sapphire]

r1500?

[potent arrow]

Ram

[deep sapphire]

oh, they're fine

[sly elk]

but yea the fake shifter feel thing was awful

[deep sapphire]

not a huge fan of the front end but they seem to have nice interiors

[sly elk]

and I can't imagine it wouldn't lead to the shifter breaking easily

[potent arrow]

I mean like drigetrain wise

I've...never worked on one lol

[sly elk]

like they made this stupid complex thing to make the feeling of it clicking through gears even though it's just a jjoystick

[deep sapphire]

well the 5.7 has been used for 2 decades by this point so they're pretty reliable

you can get them with the eTorque motor that helps improve economy as well

[sly elk]

what happened was if you didn't hold the button down firmly enough

it would stop in neutral

but the mechanism would "clunk" like you shifted all the way to park

[potent arrow]

Alright might have to consider that or the maverick xl

[deep sapphire]

yeah I remember that and then it took a second or 2 to engage in park

[sly elk]

I don't remember it being slow to shift to park

it was just the friggin button

and the button didn't have an obvious click that it was engaged so it was really easy to partially engage the button

[deep sapphire]

the maverick would be more practical if you are on a budget and would get better fuel economy

[sly elk]

so in our 300 that caught me a few times where I was shifting from say, drive to reverse

and went to back up

only to rev the engine in neutral 😄

[deep sapphire]

seems overly complicated

[sly elk]

and look like a dumbass XD

yea awful design idea

admittedly, GM might be using the same design but better mechanisms

but still, why?!

[potent arrow]

Probably yeah, just need a work horse for moving equipment and material around

[deep sapphire]

my column shifter doesnt really have much feedback when you switch between gear other than park, I accidentally put it into non overdrive all the time

[sly elk]

chrysler abandoned that stupid design because it was stupid and went back to a normal design

ya imho that's up there on things i'd hate in a car

any kinda switchgear you have to use all the time should feel good to use

idc if the dashboard isn't soft squishy

or if I can gasp see a panel gap

[potent arrow]

Civic doesn't like me shoving 15 fence posts through the back

[sly elk]

LOL

[potent arrow]

Had to borrow the ranger for that job 🤣

[sly elk]

to be fair, column shifters never gave me the impression they had crisp solid shifts

I always thought it was a long stick with mush inside the steering column

[potent arrow]

Pffft

[sly elk]

they always look sloppy af too

especially the old ones that have a mechanical indicator on the steering column

[potent arrow]

Yeah Hank if I drop my employee pricing on the ram it'll be probably around the same as the maverick

[sly elk]

o_O

ram 1500 costing the same as a maverick?

[potent arrow]

Yeah

[sly elk]

that....

[potent arrow]

Lowest trim at my dealer

Yep

2022 tho

[sly elk]

it comes down to size, then

[potent arrow]

[sly elk]

if it were me I'd take the ram and not think second thoughts, but it's a ram

i'd have to debadge it

ford, fwd, and that drivetrain

[potent arrow]

LOL

I'm leaning ram

[sly elk]

but the size thing is a big deal probably

[potent arrow]

Not really

[sly elk]

and probably better gas mileage?

[potent arrow]

Maverick definitely has better mileage

[sly elk]

the 3.6 is fantastic too

[potent arrow]

Reeee

[sly elk]

just avoid the small diesel

[potent arrow]

I gotta sit on this lol

See here's the thing

Before all this

I was gonna get a hellcat

So mileage was already thrown out the window

[sly elk]

ahh so you're not worried about chrysler reliability 😄

[potent arrow]

Mopar is easy enough to work on

I could handle most of the servicin

Probably

But uh yeah been saving for a new vehicle

[sly elk]

oh i'm positive lol

[potent arrow]

And this would be my "actual first car/truck"

Other ones have been given too me

Sooo hmm

[sly elk]

why a truck now?

also which hellcat were you thinking of getting? 😮

[deep sapphire]

because we live in north america

[sly elk]

oh ffs

[deep sapphire]

I'll never go back to a sedan, you cant see around anyone

shit gets so old when you're trying to turn and cant see around other idiots who pull ahead

[sly elk]

well ya know the drive mindset 😄

if I'm sitting at an intersection trying to turn right but I can't see around the other SUVs/trucks

I just go 'fucking SUVs/trucks' and wait for the light to change

[deep sapphire]

thats time you dont get back

[sly elk]

let the dude behind me keep honking idc

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

not really

[deep sapphire]

trucks are the everyday utility

[sly elk]

pay more attention lol

[deep sapphire]

it can do it all

[sly elk]

you ever notice the dude that is doing all kinds of crazy shit to get a few cars ahead

gets stuck at the same red light on the next intersection anyway?

the only place they're gonna get to faster is the scene of the accident

yea admittedly I pay the u-haul tax

[deep sapphire]

I meant more on like side streets

[sly elk]

about once a year 😄

I go to uhaul and spend about $30 renting a van

and I use it to do truck shit

[deep sapphire]

if I need to turn right and the dickhead in the left lane pulls ahead for no reason because its obvious he can see over me that makes it annoying, and we all get impatient and make mistakes, obviously im not gonna pull out if I cant see but I see it all the time and it makes me nervous

[sly elk]

somehow they keep making it easier/faster to do that out here

[deep sapphire]

plus they now have turn on yield here now

[sly elk]

except last time the service counter dude was a dick to me

[deep sapphire]

and it makes me nervous as fuck someone is gonna pull out

[sly elk]

because I carried recycling and it left a little goo so I cleaned it off with a wet cloth

and the dude was like

YOU SPILLED SOMETHING BACK HERE

and I'm like no that's just wet because I just cleaned it

... dick.

[sly elk]

this is a totally valid fear

that was what killed our 300 😦

[deep sapphire]

I hate the idea of turn on yield lights, sure if traffic is low

but they turn them on during rush hour

[sly elk]

someone pulling out like right in front of me to make a u-turn

[sharp cypress]

This channel is now for technology discussions. Tech support can be routed to #952326072542847016

[sly elk]

it was exactly like those

[deep sapphire]

that'll come in handy, can see tech support posts easier

[sly elk]

those kinda bad dreams or the "what if I just yanked the wheel to the left"

i'm going through an intersection and this f150 on the other side starts pulling out

[deep sapphire]

yeah, people just dont care and will pull out without any regard

[sly elk]

"sorry I didn't see you"

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire

[sly elk]

HOW DO YOU NOT SEE A BIGASS WHITE CAR?!

[deep sapphire]

right and its like "then why the fuck did you pull out?"

[sly elk]

I think i said something like

[deep sapphire]

w-what

[sly elk]

"if you couldn't see me you should get your eyes checked"

so yea

and I'm lucky the truck was stock

[jaunty light]

[deep sapphire]

near my old apartment there was this infamously bad intersection next to a highway

[sly elk]

they didn't lift it or do a 'bumper delete'

I imagine if they did I wouldn't be here

so I can understand wanting a truck lol

[deep sapphire]

it was a frontage road

[sly elk]

but funny enough, from a driving pov, I much prefer driving something like a 300 over my jeep

[deep sapphire]

so you have cars piled up waiting for the light to get onto the highway and then the frontage road where you couldnt see any cars pulling into the main road, it was super frustrating I would never take it lol

[sly elk]

the jeep is fun to drive, don't get me wrong

but I like cars that are long and low and sit close to the ground

[deep sapphire]

jeep wranglers arent comfy cruisers

[sly elk]

it feels a lot lot more stable

[deep sapphire]

modern trucks ride much better because most of them aside from heavy duty dont use leaf springs anymore

[sly elk]

and I bet driving something like a porsche is downright euphoric in that sense

oh I know

the jeep isn't a good example lmao

I meant I didn't like the high ride height

[deep sapphire]

as far as im aware chevy is the only one that still puts independent front suspension in the heavy duty trucks

ford and dodge still use sold front axle

which is dumb af

you know the whole "jeep death wobble"

that happens on all solid front axles

unless you are off roading regularly, having a solid front axle makes no sense to me

[jaunty light]

Why lol QTs are all independent now arent they

Mine uses torsion bars its awful

[deep sapphire]

cuties? yes

[jaunty light]

Yes you

Independent front hanks

[deep sapphire]

[jaunty light]

😳

[sly elk]

scary af

[jaunty light]

We need to get ya on a bike kyanche

https://tenor.com/view/tank-slapper-death-wobble-speed-wobble-gif-20742577

[deep sapphire]

Oh that looks so safe

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

tank slapper, hang on but let your arms go limp so that it dampens the oscillation

[jaunty light]

Yea most of the time youre fine if the bike is in good condition

Til you hit a pothole

[sly elk]

afaik if you get death wobble you let off the gas and try to hold on, can brake but only very little because you don't want to put weight on a wobbly front end

i imagine tank slapping and death wobble are caused for similar reasons

worn out suspension components

and/or at least with trucks/jeeps, shitty cheap suspension 'upgrades' that fuck up the geometry

[modest moss]

is this #952326072542847016 bit because we shitpost too much?

[jaunty light]

Ya the bike will correct itself, dont fight the forks

[sly elk]

but I have heard stories of people with new-ish stock jeeps/trucks encountering it lol

[modest moss]

Hank has two sections to solo mentor now

GET TO WORK HANKCHAN

[vestal crane]

Nah, new Discord feature, trying it out

[deep sapphire]

I dunno what they call it now but they have basically forum posts now so you can easily see the tech support issue instead of relying on seeing it and I'll be frank being I work away from my phone its harder to see any tech support issues

[modest moss]

As long as it makes Hank cry I fully support it

[sly elk]

I'm a fan

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[sly elk]

there's a couple of ffxiv issues that come up daily that it's the same answer most times

[vestal crane]

Funny enough, they're called forum channels

[modest moss]

Real talk though, we get pretty much every support issue covered anyway, we just don't get to be orange because staff hate us

[robust vessel]

I don't hate you.

Much.

[sharp cypress]

It should help break out issues into specific channels

And prevent things from getting lost

[odd sand]

So we spun off tech support into a separate channel so we can ignore it getting in the way of our shitposting about trucks and cars? /s

But yes, I don't think helping ppl was ever ignored or lost here, even though I don't think the channel was formally supposed to be FF14 tech support lol

[hard drift]

do you hate me 🙏

[robust vessel]

[hard drift]

thanks 🙏 i appreciate it the hate fuels me 😭

[odd sand]

@sharp cypress IMHO these sorts of continued splitting and splitting of content tends to backfire on Discord because the UX isn't designed for following multiple channels at once easily. So more channels tends to mean either stale discussion, or more likely to be overlooked. Flipping between different servers is bad enough, this just compounds the issue.

[potent arrow]

Sorry lol, went to church

[hard drift]

i mean it could help to isolate issues, people can read resolutions for say directX issues, crash to desktop, blue screen/blank screen etc.

[potent arrow]

Long sorry short, spent a few months fixing a ranger for my gf

And throughout the last 4 months I've been borrowing it alot

Like so much lol

And I'm kinda like

Damn

Maybe I should just get a truck

As for the hellcat I was gonna grab the 2022 SRT Challenger

[odd sand]

We won't have to re-explain it possibly. But I guarantee you, much like we had the macro we would trigger for using the launcher: They will come here to ask and we're going to have to point them at that stuff bc they won't think to look first probably

[potent arrow]

Because I have a good discount on the new one

[odd sand]

My friend got the 2021 or 22 Scat Pack

[jaunty light]

Dont tell hank

[hard drift]

🤷‍♂️ they already do that though lol

so it's no different, just easier

[odd sand]

He was thinking of trading that in again in another 2-3 years for the base Hellcat widebody

I think the Hellcat starts at 61k and the widebody adds like another 5k

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/pfsf1968-gif-20195301

[potent arrow]

[potent arrow]

Basically what I'll be looking at

[odd sand]

The Scat Pack is on the same drivetrain I think, just a different motor

[jaunty light]

Sarah rich

[potent arrow]

I save

[sly elk]

i forgot

dodge likes making all the options available

usually you can get 1. the full package, 2. the engine upgrade without the fancy stuff, 3. the fancy stuff without the engine upgrade

I think the scat pack is supposed to be the engine upgrade without the other stuff

so like, 392 engine but no power seats

but idk, they change the names of packages a lot

in this case, it has brembo brakes, which is a great idea

[sly elk]

if she's ok with that, maybe ask what she thinks? 🙂

[jaunty light]

Power seats suck

Manual for life

[odd sand]

Mine are power except for the lean back adjustment

[modest moss]

@sharp cypress I predict this split leads to more help requests being missed, but hey I could be wrong

[odd sand]

I'll admit it's kinda awkward getting them adjusted bc the up/down motion is actually like a 30 degree angle backwards

[sly elk]

jeeps don't have power seats so

tbh i prefer power

[odd sand]

So if you want to go back and stay the same height you need to make 2-3 separate button adjustments

[sly elk]

because usually you can put the seat back wherever

and you can locate the seat wherever as long as the motor control is fine enough

with manual seats it's wherever the mechanism has notches

and sometimes the notches aren't perfect so you get your seat in the spot you want, and start driving

[jaunty light]

The memory option can be cool but it takes a gd eternity to adjust witb power

[sly elk]

and then you hit the brakes and the seat clunks because it wasn't 100% locked into place

[odd sand]

The one nice thing about power seats though is the memory buttons so if you have a friend or SO, they don't fuck up your seat every time they drive it

You just press the button to put it back

[sly elk]

YES

plus usually the remote is associated with a memory button

[jaunty light]

R u implying we touch grass @odd sand

[sly elk]

so when you unlock the car it switches to your seat profile

fun fact 😄 on cadillacs you can save the seat settings to your online account

[odd sand]

mfw car jockey at the car wash is in my car for a grand total of 20 seconds, but still feels the need to fuck with the seat

[sly elk]

and then

if you rent a cadillac and sign in

you can import your seat settings

[jaunty light]

[sly elk]

I'm not sure how well that actually works in practice

[jaunty light]

I havent adjusted my trucks in 5 years

[hard drift]

[jaunty light]

:bidori:

[hard drift]

nice try bucko

[sly elk]

I've also never bothered to add a user profile to the cadillac >>

[sly elk]

I don't wanna try and enter my password while outdoors on a friggin touchscreen

[sly elk]

also you never take your car to the dealer

for some reason every time, the person who takes my car to the back is like 4'8

and puts the seat all the way up

[sly elk]

then i'm dumb and forgett when i get in

lol

[deep sapphire]

With the current deal and credit card promo I only had to pay 360

[hard drift]

nice

did you use honey as well

just incase

[deep sapphire]

No

[hard drift]

smh

how could you hank

[deep sapphire]

I’m sure I could’ve held off for a better deal but I really need that impact at work the one we have for the department is a beast but it’s nearly impossible to fit it anywhere

[hard drift]

Rip

[deep sapphire]

It’s a full torque 1/2in drive so the thing is a monster to hold and get in anywhere reasonable with it

[jaunty light]

@deep sapphire instead of a turd, get this https://configurator.ducati.com/bikes/us/en/multistrada/multistrada-v4-pikes-peak/14152485?vid=9Q8ZNL8RE0

[sly elk]

BTW. If you're getting an affiliate discount those are 1% under invoice but you can sometimes negotiate better. check what people are saying on the forums

annoyingly it doesn't apply to every model and some dealers refuse it anyway

[latent grotto]

Wait why are there 2 tech channels now

[odd sand]

I have a milwaukee impact wrench. I cant remember if its the 12 or 18V though

[hard drift]

One is specific questions/topics it’s a forum vs tech chat

[deep sapphire]

are you for sale

Milwaukee Fuel is the shit, good warranty too

[hard drift]

?

[deep sapphire]

That hammer drill is a beast too

[hard drift]

Hank you thot

[deep sapphire]

Wha-

[odd sand]

The thermostat in my new place is possessed. I have it set to hold at 70F atm and it ran itself up to 75F and doesn't seem to gaf what its set to

And it has a ton of preprogrammed timeframes that I have to cycle through bc there are barely any buttons on it

[jaunty light]

The ghost doesnt like 70

Be considerate

[odd sand]

Bc I was like "wow, it feels really warm at 70, maybe I should turn it down to 68..." check the thermostat and says 75...

https://tenor.com/view/wat-seriously-so-what-gif-13009342

[sly elk]

I am enjoying this retro vibe

https://i.redd.it/e72esk8puym81.jpg

[jaunty light]

That keyboard is a disgrac3

[hard drift]

Is it a smart one?

[sly elk]

with that setup I'd go on a limb and say the keyboard is fine

[potent arrow]

Lmfao I was the one to give it to her, she also needs the truck as much as I do

[sly elk]

that case is from like 1999-2001 maybe as late as 2002-2003

by then the vast majority of pc stuff was black/silver

ahh ok

[jaunty light]

ARR GEE BEE

BEE DOR III

[sly elk]

if you like the truck, no shame in that 😄

it'll probably hold its value a lot better than the challenger anyway

(if it were me I'd be picking the challenger though :D)

[potent arrow]

Yeah

Idk it's useful for work right

[sly elk]

tbh I'd get a charger

[potent arrow]

But the challenger would be purely for travel and joy ridin

[sly elk]

also depending on what you carry 😄

a charger could probably fit a lot of it hahahaha

if you fold down the back seat they can carry stuff

[hard drift]

What

[potent arrow]

Probably but I ain't putting bags of grout in my charger

[sly elk]

like you can carry a twin mattress in them for sure

[jaunty light]

we made up a new chant

[sly elk]

ehhhhh you COULD

that's what tarps are for

[potent arrow]

[hard drift]

No, cease

[jaunty light]

RGB, BIDORI!

[potent arrow]

Hot take but I find manual easier to drive then automatic

[sly elk]

I used to make can/bottle recycling trips with my jeep lol

[hard drift]

[sly elk]

but not when I got the new one >>

I don't; have the heart to put dirty shit in my blue jeep. it cost too much. xD

[potent arrow]

I want my manual backkkk reeeee

[jaunty light]

no sarah

automatics are the future

[sly elk]

ok I understand the challenger, then

[potent arrow]

xD that's what I feel kyanche if I get it

[sly elk]

they don't make manual chargers 😦

[potent arrow]

[sly elk]

the 8 speed is great though!

[potent arrow]

I got into my friend's automatic supra

And instinctly reached for the clutch

[sly elk]

tbh if you do buy one of these

[potent arrow]

And slammed my foot into a piece of plastic

[sly elk]

I recommend paying attention to the throttle response

[potent arrow]

I wanted to cry, it hurt so much

[sly elk]

I dunno about the v8s and the manuals

[potent arrow]

Are they mushy?

[jaunty light]

what do you live next to a bunch of rich people?

[sly elk]

but the v6 300 we used to have, had a very slow throttle lol

[potent arrow]

Ewww

[sly elk]

like there was a noticeable delay between smashing the gas pedal and getting going

[potent arrow]

Fuck thaaat

[sly elk]

eg test drive before buying

I never noticed that in my jeep though so it might have been an isolated issue with that particular car

[potent arrow]

YEAH

wwoops

caps

fuckkkmylife

sorry I can barely breathe rn

[jaunty light]

this on a dodge? they have aggressive ECU

[potent arrow]

ate some spice noodles

fuckkk

[jaunty light]

let the hate flow through you

[potent arrow]

inner rage

The challenger would be so easy for me to service

[sly elk]

dunno. was just mentioning a thing to watch out for

might've been an issue with that specific car lol

they usually have very lax stability/traction control 😄

[potent arrow]

uhm

chargers have traction control?

: D

[sly elk]

so even with ESP on and stuff, if you mash the gas pedal in a turn

it'll slide the rear out

[jaunty light]

maybe more like a diesel thing since it's got a turbo but my dad's ECU prevents you from doing anything

[sly elk]

my jeep even lets me do that hahahaha

[jaunty light]

you'll stop at an intersection, go 100% throttle, and it will go 5mph

then suddenly turn the turbo on

[potent arrow]

lmfao

[sly elk]

that sounds fun

[potent arrow]

I basically have like 70k$ to play with here

so im still considering optins

[jaunty light]

its not when you're trying to cross with a full echelon of cars around you thinking what the fuck ur doing

[sly elk]

also you;ll probably go through tires a bit faster than you've previously gone through tires

[potent arrow]

Ill have some nice tires come summer

[sly elk]

xD

have you driven a challenger tho?

[jaunty light]

summer cruiser

[potent arrow]

mostly chargers but a few challengers

just whatever rolls into the shop or car meets

[deep sapphire]

Wtf they gave me a candy cane

[hard drift]

to freshen your breath damn smoker

[deep sapphire]

Good idea gonna light one up now

[hard drift]

[jaunty light]

light up a candy cane?

[deep sapphire]

Yes

Bidori did you listen to that song I sent you

[jaunty light]

this what the kids call crack?

[hard drift]

Yeah I’ve heard it before lol

[deep sapphire]

Can’t blame you it’s the only album they made that’s good

[hard drift]

My parents and i listen to that stuff all the time

[hard drift]

Lmao

[deep sapphire]

I mean tell me I’m wrong

[hard drift]

I mean I don’t know most of their stuff so probably true

[deep sapphire]

They’re like Pearl Jam

“Yeah Ten was great”

“And then uuuuuuh”

“Shit what else did they make?”

[sly elk]

I can totally read your vibe from here

HELL YEA NEW TOOLS

[deep sapphire]

[kindred brook]

What happened to tech

We got nuked

Cuz you guys kept talking about cars

[hard drift]

No it’s the same

New name is all

Support is more for focused help and it makes it easier to refer to for specific issues

[modest moss]

basically we're just even more free to shitpost and can send people to #952326072542847016 and leave Hank to do his job, the orange weeb that he is

[jaunty light]

orange weeb indeed

[inland mauve]

Malwarebytes just found malware in my recycle bin

[sly elk]

i don't normally do wagons but

that looks good

i don't like the black plastic on the back bumper but it's not bad otherwise

man I hate driving a car with a dirty windshield

can't imagine flying a plane with one

[sly elk]

oh wow I had no idea ford made trucks with that weird dip in the door back in the old days

1987 Ford C8000 Ramp Truck - $26,500

wait.. 87?!@

that looks like 1967

WTF

they made an r34 sedan?!

GIMME!

[odd sand]

It's a specialty vehicle, so they probably literally built the same one for 25 years.

[dreamy chasm]

I was tempted to make a shitpost help thread but

I'll restrain myself

[royal forge]

Sigh

My laptop black screened again

I swear to god

[modest moss]

you backed up all your work, right?

[deep sapphire]

AMD users usually do work backwards

[potent arrow]

Best you to it

[dreamy chasm]

lmao

[hard drift]

You want me to beat you

[potent arrow]

Bro you cannot beat up hank

[hard drift]

sure i can doesn't mean i'll inflict much damage

[modest moss]

that's not really how it works

you aren't beating someone up if they kick the absolute shit out of you

[latent grotto]

What if I'm beating them up emotionally while they beat me up physically

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[deep sapphire]

TECHNOLOGY

[eternal zinc]

https://youtu.be/7Ryi4_MNCDw

so i can take a nap?

[deep sapphire]

Hell yeah

[odd sand]

It works pretty well on my Stinger, but if you come to a complete stop more than twice in a short period of time it asks you to turn off adaptive cruise

I prefer setting my follow distance to 2 not 1 though. Just seems to lay on the brake a bit too late for my liking and probably exacerbates rubberbanding that way. Also gives you a chance to react and take over if you have to easier.

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/KEEShvyv1no

[toxic meteor]

Anyone else having issues with? Its not connecting

With steam

[quaint spear]

welcome to the car show?

[modest moss]

cars = technology

[buoyant falcon]

I just hooked up a brand new Amazon Fire Stick for my mom, but what's weird is that the second it started up it began downloading updates. No network connection or anything.

There are other Amazon devices in my parents' house... is it somehow piggybacking off of them?

[modest moss]

what did you connect it to?

[potent arrow]

I may have put a deposit on the srt...

[sly elk]

I forgot my jeep has adaptive cruise control lol

sara which color? 😄

[royal forge]

Yemits just so stupid

Im gonna b a blue boy from now on... @deep sapphire

[buoyant falcon]

Yeah it automatically logged into my dad's Amazon account after installing, I never even needed to choose a network or enter a wifi password. It must be piggybacking off of the other Amazon devices.

[modest moss]

@deep sapphire

[buoyant falcon]

It seems a bit weird that it would assume that a nearby Amazon devices belonged to the same person though. What if you were in an apartment and it picked up one from the next apartment over?

[boreal surge]

It might have been pre set up by amazon?

[modest moss]

I mean, did he order it with that amazon account?

[hard drift]

that's actually a feature that's on by default after they first implemented it and you had to opt out of it. it was meant to help with a mesh network sort of thing something or other

[modest moss]

when I bought tablets for my kids it asked me if they were for me

[buoyant falcon]

Yeah they did, I told them about that.

However, that shouldn't allow you to auto-login to an account attached to a nearby device. As I said, what if it was your neighbor's device?

[hard drift]

is it plugged into a tv?

if so is it an amazon tv?

i mean amazon has done some questionable things recently so if that is how it's intended it doesn't surprise me one bit

[dull garnet]

isn't that what apple does

[buoyant falcon]

It literally comes out of the box, you plug it in, it automatically connects to the network, and then logged into my Dad's account on it's own.

Well okay that's not quite true.

[modest moss]

can only assume your dad didn't opt out

[hard drift]

^

or it reopted in later

[buoyant falcon]

It did ask me to choose from other registered devices first, but beyond that, no security measurs.

Yes but why would this mesh network just allow anyone to login to anyone's Amazon account just because their device is nearby?

Also, did that mesh network include Fire Sticks as well? Because if they do, even if you did opt out, simply buying new Amazon devices would mean that you're just a part of it now.

[hard drift]

i mean you didn't say what the device plugged into

it could be tethering off of the device it's plugged into 🤷‍♂️ i'm not sure

[buoyant falcon]

Oh, it was just a cheap LCD TV.

[hard drift]

is it connected to the wifi?

it's autologged in from amazon it says

[buoyant falcon]

It's not a smart TV, so no.

[hard drift]

so it probably has something stored from the account allowing it to log in because other devices are on the network already

[buoyant falcon]

Perhaps, but how would it know if you were in say, an apartment and your neighbor had one? I'm wondering if there's something else to it.

[hard drift]

what?

[buoyant falcon]

My dad did buy it through his Amazon account.

Maybe they somehow made sure it was attached to his account before it shipped out? Dunno...

[hard drift]

yeah so it's connected to their network because their other devices are on the network and probably shared the information since they're more than likely tied to the same account

i just said it's attached to his account...

that's atleast according to a random search i did, can't find any mention on amazons listing page for it though

[buoyant falcon]

Still a Hell of an assumption. Could see some people taking advantage of if. Though maybe you get an email whenever a new device gets activated?

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/technology-oh-my-god-gif-12118797

[sly elk]

ahhh when i was in davis, most of the people who work in the stores there are in college too

so "what major do you study?" comes up a lot in casual conversations

when I said computer engineering the typic response was something like "wow.. you must be smart" or something like that

one day i was behind an archaeology major at safeway and the cashier asked them and was like

OMG WOW THATS SO INTERESTING

like her voice changed and she got super excited

never had that experience

it's always been much closer to that dude carrying that sign lmao

[late basalt]

FWIW, smart tv?

Odds are it queried the tv for its network settings

[buoyant falcon]

Said a few times that it was a cheap LCD TV. :x

No internet connections.

[late basalt]

skipped most of the convo ¯_(ツ)_/¯

But I figured I’d ask since that’s the usual thing that happens

[sly elk]

YES, yes it is

in fact

that's a feature you can disable

but amazon devices will share your internet with other amazon devices, even if they aren't yours

there was a big scandal about this a year ago

[buoyant falcon]

Okay gonna stop you right there...

Review the log, we've discussed this already. :x

[sly elk]

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?node=21328123011

oh, sorry

[inland mauve]

with archaeology people think of Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park even though they know that's not what an actual archaeologist does

[buoyant falcon]

Not trying to be rude, just don't wanna explain it all again.

[sly elk]

why not? it's a shitty idea

[inland mauve]

with computer engineering they think of nerds in a back room surrounded by servers

[buoyant falcon]

Yeah but this goes beyond that for reasons I mentioned earlier.

[sly elk]

k lol

[sly elk]

yea to be fair, nobody ever told me i was too attractive to be one of those nerds 😦

[jaunty light]

DELTA FAN WHIRRING INTENSIFIES

[sharp star]

https://wccftech.com/xfx-china-busted-customs-seize-5840-graphics-cards-worth-3-million-usd-mislabeled/ the sweet sounds of tax evasion ASMR

[odd sand]

"You know better! You only get to fleece the Western companies, not us!" /s

[devout nexus]

hahaha

[modern iris]

Is this new section?

[odd sand]

new tech, same as the old tech

except for the sub-forum-thing...

[sly elk]

lol

[modest moss]

#952326072542847016 is where you post for actual help

[burnt swallow]

Why did it change

It was just fine before

[odd sand]

I agree, but 🤷‍♀️

Hopefully there is a way for mods to like, change the names of the threads there for archival purposes so it can be searched easier

[modest moss]

I haven't tried but it looks like I can yeah

[sly walrus]

grats on mentor, btw

[hard drift]

oh no now shue is a mentor

[odd sand]

The blind leading the blind!

[potent arrow]

Why the fuck am I not a mentor