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modest moss
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only communists torrent content

potent arrow
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I felt this in my bones

modest moss
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2.2.1 btw

deep sapphire
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@modest moss

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FIGHT TO SUUUUUURRRVIIIIIIVE

late basalt
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This is why old people don’t need admin access to shared tech

plain geode
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I did this, my game hasn't crashed at all and I can play on windowed fullscreen again, but I've noticed when loading into heavily populated zones some characters end up tposing a little bit as characters load in

odd sand
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He falls into that level of tech-savvy that's just dangerous enough to know how to make a raid, yet accidentally wipe a drive by adding it to a raid cluster when told explicitly not to, huh? /s

warm mesa
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he didnt even add it to the raid

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but wiped it anyway

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without checking or asking

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@odd sand

odd sand
sly elk
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man in today's /r/iphone thread, warranty* fraud

odd sand
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I used to have a lot of issues, but thankfully the PC problems were largely solved by building them a SFF Windows box with an SSD when Win8 first came out. SSD has kept it peppy and the only issue was their stupid printers until I finally got them to buy a laser printer.

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Now It Just Worksβ„’ and the only problem was my mom not understanding you click on their face in Skype and press the giant Call button to call them.

sly elk
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my mom has had a few computers over the last 20 years πŸ™‚

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but I find she doesn't permanently remember how to do a thing

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like she used to use amazon music all the time to play music, now she doesn't

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that might be my fault

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err once more I need to whine about why apple services randomly log you out

odd sand
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IMHO the problem is when people think they can't do something, part of their brain shuts down and they don't actually see what they're looking at

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Hence the Skype thing with my mom where she would make whiny exasperated sounds saying she doesn't know what to do and just randomly glances around the screen without focusing on anything.

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When it's super simple: You click their name/icon out of the friends list then click the giant call button. I don't know how much more simply it could be.

potent arrow
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: P I made a cheap sff PCs and put chromeos on it and gave it to my grandma

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So I would never have to fuck with it again

odd sand
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Not a bad idea if you know they won't use anything but web browsing and email etc.

potent arrow
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I mean I just linked the office online equivalents of 0365

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And had them use that too

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And lits lole

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All they need

odd sand
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Good idea, I don't know why I forgot about that being an option too, considering I use O365 everyday in some fashion heh.

potent arrow
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Its because people give online 0365 too much flak

modest moss
hard drift
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plus given that nvidia refuses to give an msrp to consumers it'll only get worse deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

modest moss
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just don't buy them

burnt swallow
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@deep sapphire

deep sapphire
burnt swallow
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Windows 11

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How is it

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My laptop is trying to make me upgrade to it

deep sapphire
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I have no experience with it

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Windows is typically pretty buggy in its launch window

burnt swallow
deep sapphire
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You wouldn’t benefit much from moving from 10

dull garnet
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there are zero reasons to

hard drift
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11 is hit or miss i personally didn't like it because of changes to taskbar and such and don't feel like editing the registry to change it

hard drift
modest moss
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no point having an msrp if every retailer ignores it anyway

hard drift
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i mean right now sure msrp means jack shit, but down the line when things normalize if they continue this it just leads to price it as you will for products rather than some cards near the msrp maybe 30 dollars more for example and then the higher/enthusiast class being of course more expensive say 500 above

dull garnet
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imagine not buying a gpu for msrp

sly elk
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20?!

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cheapest i've seen it from a legit site was like 40

dull garnet
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cloud storage

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disgusting

sly elk
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lol

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same but I would be afraid of getting caught doing that

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I might do that to get a camera πŸ˜›

dull garnet
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doesn't your phone have a camera

sly elk
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i mean if you spend $2k on a/v gear to stream to 3 people on twitch, and enjoy it and all, great!

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strangely they're using an elgato wave 3

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not a samson with some $$$ xlr box

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(besides ya gotta make it big somehow, and it's always a good time to try :D)

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it's nice

dull garnet
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what canon

sly elk
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i didn't know people still bought canons

devout nexus
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very nice setup!

sly elk
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yea it's not mine πŸ˜„ Just shared because I was impressed they had a youtube plaque

dull garnet
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that's clearly a Sony A7

sly elk
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i explained in a comment that I think it's cool for anyone to stream, just often wonder in my mind when I see an extravagant twitch setup if they have 3 followers or 10

devout nexus
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o hhaha

sly elk
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also yea that dude's using an a7c

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they said the lens was a placeholder because they were using their streaming lens to take the picture

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i was pondering doing something like that at one point, but I never use my cam in meetings

dull garnet
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and they decided to save such a low res photo

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πŸ˜”

sly elk
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i bought a webcam for $60-ish when they were impossible to find in 2020

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thought I'd get something better if I used it enough. never did. xD

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i really want to get an a7 since my 9 year old olympus sucks ass at video

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still takes nice pictures tho

dull garnet
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its a camera

sly elk
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I have a 25mm on it that I'm really happy with

dull garnet
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on what sensor crop

sly elk
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m43

dull garnet
sly elk
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i told ya, it's 9 years old

dull garnet
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that's like 2.0?

sly elk
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yea sorry

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had to double check, yes it's like a 50mm on a normal camera

dull garnet
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yee

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i have a 50mm prime on my ff

sly elk
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but it's a nice f/1.7 (cheap!) panasonic lens lol

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so everything looks lovely, backgrounds blur nicely, and it captures lots of light

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just gotta stand really far away πŸ˜„

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lol

odd sand
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IMHO atm I would either look to buy older used hardware and the newer GPU, or buy a new CPU since a lot of gaming FPS is CPU-based actually, and settle for an older GPU atm until prices drop

deep sapphire
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bidori is browsing another channel

hard drift
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hank keep it up i'll do my power move smug

deep sapphire
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oh yeah whats that

hard drift
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hold on lemme get it again

odd sand
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eg: Finding GTX 970 for like $300US is still fine for 1080p gaming

deep sapphire
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300 dollars for a 970?

odd sand
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And when the market starts recovering even if you can only flip it for like $150-200 it's still way better than paying double for an RTX3070

deep sapphire
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I'd just buy an xbox for that lol

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the 970 wasnt even that good a year after it came out

odd sand
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I'm saying if you absolutely wanted or needed hardware now, I would try to buy an existing used system

deep sapphire
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the frame buffer was pretty shit

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I wonder are they really 300 bucks now?

odd sand
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I had a 770 and the 970 was like 30% better than that a year later. It was a pretty big jump at the time

deep sapphire
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PC gaming has become a total farce

untold onyx
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I mean, a few weeks ago that was accurate where I live.

deep sapphire
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gotta love this

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"RTX 970"

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bidori is still looking

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system must've locked up

odd sand
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Otherwise pay out the ass for the GPU and buy a used 3770K system for like $200 lol

hard drift
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checkmate ASevil

deep sapphire
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LMAO!

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wow you are in like zero servers

hard drift
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yes ASevil

deep sapphire
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wtf is the starbucks one for

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lol

hard drift
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it's a raid thingy

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just a raid recruitment channel

potent arrow
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@deep sapphire @sly elk @modest moss

deep sapphire
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didnt hear any glass break

sly elk
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it doesn't play for me

hard drift
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ASevil even better now, using the same account since it was logged in someone elses account namazuconcern

potent arrow
hard drift
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you happy @deep sapphire i have ascended to another level

hard drift
sly elk
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i don't understand

odd sand
deep sapphire
deep sapphire
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what did they mean by this

hard drift
deep sapphire
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yaok

odd sand
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Generally speaking if you just get a power cut with no BSOD etc. it's your power mgmt on the motherboard or the PSU being insufficient

hard drift
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plus if that was the case case hank i'd have the same issues or atleast should :p

deep sapphire
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yeah but we never hear you speak the truth bidori

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how are we to know bud

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not a good look

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not gooooood

royal forge
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Hmmm... my laptop battery was prev 100%. Not even when plugged in, i get max 95%

deep sapphire
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oh no nno noooo AMD broooossss

royal forge
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Should I.. pull out the battery?

hard drift
deep sapphire
hard drift
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i don't hide when there are problems πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ it's technology it has ups and downs

deep sapphire
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no dont pull out the battery

odd sand
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That said, it could be a weird driver glitch. I had an indie game that could hard reset my system after playing it for like an hour pretty consistently, so I had to stop playing it

royal forge
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Is this normal or should I bring it up with the laptop rep

deep sapphire
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ice wanted me to post that for you bidori

hard drift
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i hate you smh

jaunty light
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Pog

deep sapphire
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HE GOT MUTED

hard drift
jaunty light
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But why

jaunty light
deep sapphire
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why is your pfp lewd

hard drift
deep sapphire
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yes it is

hard drift
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deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp what

jaunty light
deep sapphire
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im gonna change my to mercy

jaunty light
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Hank maybe ur just thirsting

hard drift
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i think i need a new anime pfp

deep sapphire
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HUGE DEAL

jaunty light
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Join us

hard drift
deep sapphire
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weeb

jaunty light
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Wow how dare you

deep sapphire
hard drift
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i don't like most vtubers to be fair

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it's cool and all but not my thing

jaunty light
hard drift
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most of them have annoying voices deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

deep sapphire
jaunty light
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@hard drift

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How about gogalking

hard drift
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idk who that is

jaunty light
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An artist

hard drift
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maybe it's time i go back to self made pfps deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerp

jaunty light
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He has a new girl with a midriff

hard drift
potent arrow
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We just dropped kick a Google home mini into a river

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It suffered immensely.

hard drift
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that sounds fun

potent arrow
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I don't remember if I sent it here but it's the same one as this

hard drift
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ASevil the sound of it dropping is still so good

deep sapphire
jaunty light
deep sapphire
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is she holding a wrench

jaunty light
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A staff or something

hard drift
# jaunty light

Cleaner but still no πŸ˜” the shading/blending 😭

jaunty light
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Ya he got the style that looks like mspaint sataniaLUL

hard drift
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How did you find a way in here namazuconcern

royal forge
hard drift
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How could you hank

deep sapphire
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what

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huh

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if battery wont charge to max capacity

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shut down PC

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unplug it

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turn back on

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plug back in

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if that still doesnt work

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you can try removing the battery but modern laptops are a lot more difficult to do so

potent arrow
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Just take and axe and give it the ole Whack

royal forge
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nah. it's k. The place I got it from is one of em boutique laptop places

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so the battery is p simple to remove

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but can I just leave it removed?

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i don't really need the battery

deep sapphire
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I wouldnt recommend it

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it does no harm in leaving it in

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it has a battery regulator

royal forge
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ah

deep sapphire
hard drift
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Lol no

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I honestly don’t care one way or another people will like what they like :p

jaunty light
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AMD is best

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Nvidia and intel fans on copium

modest moss
# royal forge ah

my laptop only charges to 95% if I leave it plugged in a lot, some sort of battery protection

jaunty light
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Typical nvidia and intel fan, cope harder, we stay winning, quote ratio

deep sapphire
hard drift
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Noooo

deep sapphire
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THE POWER IS IN MY HANDS NOW

hard drift
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Guess what hank

deep sapphire
hard drift
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😏

jaunty light
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Its ok to enjoy the lesser brand

royal forge
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dont have to worry?

modest moss
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I can't say for sure with yours, but it's quite possible

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to test it, use it unplugged a bit, let it drop below 90% then plug it back in and see if it goes to 100

royal forge
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ah ok

deep sapphire
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People will still buy them

umbral moss
deep sapphire
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And I’m sure the plant is rushing production due to massive delays with covid shutdowns

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Fuckin joke

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I wish Tesla would fuck off

umbral moss
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no, elon literally lied to the state of california and kept the factory running at capacity through the entire 2020 lockdown

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so for anyone to be like "it's because of covid" they're just huffing sewer gas

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they just don't have a QA department because having employees that don't directly produce dollars is viewed as inefficient waste

dreamy chasm
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I love how elon simps will cope and justify anything stupid and/or unreasonable that him or his company decides to do

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lmao

umbral moss
sly elk
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they should just go work for him

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see if they keep singing that same tune

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if they do, good

umbral moss
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if they were smart enough to work for him, they wouldn't want to work for him haha

sly elk
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yea tbh

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one of my ex coworkers went to spacex

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I didn't have a very good impression of the dude lol

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i get it though

modest moss
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He doesn't even have fishing unlocked in XIV

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Fraud

jaunty light
dreamy chasm
jaunty light
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Assmaster...

zealous wolf
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old but good commentary

jaunty light
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Wait, why didn't the tunnel get denied based on design

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:OmegaLUL:

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Oh the vegas one is the one being built not the CA one?

sly elk
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lol someone on reddit /r/pcmr landed a 3080 FE and I'm looking at it thinking

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i have a 3080ti and yet I feel like the 3080 FE is more alluring since it's basically a mythical beast at this point

jaunty light
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Only 10GB of ram

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Peasant card

sly elk
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right? πŸ˜„

jaunty light
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That extra ram chip is $500

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Tax to flex on those 10GB gamers

sly elk
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which card did ya get?

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fe? strix? msi? zotac?

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-does dance-

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xc3?

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coworker got a 3080 xc3 a few months ago ^^

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ahh sweet yours will look like mine then πŸ˜„

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gl with it πŸ™‚

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i honestly prefer how the ftw3 looks and I don't feel like ever buying a gpu in this market again

potent arrow
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imagine seeing your gpu

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could not be me

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🀣

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I do that on the side

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But its not really a thing I want to do for a living

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.-. still waiting on amd to drop new cpus so i can bother buying shit

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My inventory is now just a handful of random ryzen gen 1 and a few last gen i5s of random skus

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I think I have a few 3060 and a 3070...maybe

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I do have a solid amount of ryzen apus but those will go by the summer....I hope

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got a few tomahawks and a dead taichi and a few random budget itx intel boards

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....as for cases and psus...I have no idea

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probally a mix of 500ds and nr500

sly elk
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mmm

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if I did it I'd lose money like crazy

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because I'd use weird cases πŸ˜„

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oh wow never heard of those

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i was thinking of inwins and that funky silverstone and stuff

potent arrow
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I just standardized my builds

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Saves time

jaunty light
potent arrow
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They can request a case but I'll put them on the back of queue

sly elk
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here I'll use this for all my builds

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lol jk

potent arrow
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Lool wthhhh

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The weirder cases I build in are the cougar branded ones

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Fucking helicopter cases

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Imma find who like popularized it and Beat them with a tempered glass side panel

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: πŸ‘Ž

dreamy chasm
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Make it look good with cheap rgb and flip it on amazon

jaunty light
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SARAH GAMER COMPUTERS

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THE ULTIMATE GAMER PC
INTEL I3 GAMER CPU 4.20GHZ
NVIDIA GAMER CARD
GAMER POWER SUPPLY
$3999⁹⁹

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Im a pro gamer

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Gotta get apevia

royal forge
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3090 ti or riot

lyric pond
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Glad I got my 5700XT before the GPU prices got insane (I barely missed it. Got it in early 2020). Haven't run into any issues with it personally, though a lot of people have.

jaunty light
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if you can fix the production

lyric pond
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really glad I did. Got it MSRP, but now it costs over twice that. It's last-gen hardware at this point.

sly elk
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it could be a 6600 tuf

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or a 3060 tuf

sly elk
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A comma will not fix that mess.

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ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 Ti OC edition with 11GB GDDR5X RAM and Aura Sync RGB, for the best VR and 4K gaming

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it needed a few extra words and it still just doesn't roll off the tongue nicely

jaunty light
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yeah you can!

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I'll let you in

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no I just have the power

sly elk
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mmm brand new trash can mac pros

jaunty light
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Fuckin progressive

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Moto insurance

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SuiseiDisgust not in the US

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Cheap in US is like $30-50 a month

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:OmegaLUL:

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Thats the price of an entire low CC bike

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would never insure at that price you could prolly use uber if needed and still come out on top

sly elk
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^ that seating position is why my embody chair doesn't help my back xD

wintry drift
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ordered my new keyboard kit, it's going to be a fun assembly 😀

sly elk
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sweet

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what is it

wintry drift
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sofle v2, oleds and encoders

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just cause

sly elk
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NICE

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what kinda care are you gonna use

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something like that?

wintry drift
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no case yet, just fr4 plates

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I couldnt decide between tented or not and that'd be a big investment on the case

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so I left it for later

odd sand
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What a time to be alive. $2600 for a 3yo CPU with a 5yo GPU.

sly elk
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not gonna get much of a truck for 2600

odd sand
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Yeah crypto as an inflation hedge doesn't seem like its doing a good job so far heh

sly elk
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LOL

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man don't even get me started

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i wonder what the hell the point of crypto is anymore

jaunty light
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hahahah

sly elk
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random note: Looks like new higher end freightliners use MBUX screens lol

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man whoever took this has a potato for a phone camera >>

odd sand
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That sits so high up

dreamy chasm
jaunty light
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buy my NFtitty

jaunty light
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damn I took my 2nd modafinil way too late and now I'm wide awake still

potent arrow
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Thoonk

hard drift
dreamy chasm
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Tbf

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You already could do this to an extent with 11th gen

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Just run max turbo on b560 all the time if the vrms weren't hot shit

hard drift
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yeah but the performance gain on the new stuff evilelmo

dreamy chasm
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True

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It's good value without any funny business anyway

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At least, if you find a reasonable b660 ddr4 board for 130ish bucks

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The 12400 is a steal lol

hard drift
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yeah, it really gives amd a run for their money

dreamy chasm
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I love competition

hard drift
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now if only they could both bring down prices namazuconcern

dreamy chasm
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I mean

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Amd will have to price cut eventually

hard drift
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yeah, i want to see how next gen pricing is given raptorlake/zen 4 are coming soon

hard drift
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πŸ˜”

modest moss
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"Human, I shall not forget this betrayal."

marsh granite
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Anyone tried using a RTX 3080 Ti or RTX 3090 with 750W?

My computer keeps shutting down randomly when playing ffxiv. I think it might be triggering OCP. But ffxiv isn’t that demanding is it? πŸ€”

vestal crane
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Nvidia recommends 750w but the 3000 series GPUs have a habit of spiking pretty high so that could be why

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Is your GPU overclocked or something?

dull garnet
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masder8auer

hard drift
dreamy chasm
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Have you tried framecapping

marsh granite
marsh granite
dreamy chasm
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You'd have to overclock a 5800x to breach the power consumption that a 3700x would

modest moss
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not all 750w PSUs are made equal too

vestal crane
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The 5800x has a TDP of 105w vs the 65w of the 3700x

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Most likely that slight increase pushed it over the line

dreamy chasm
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You see, tdp numbers mean jack shit

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Actually nvm

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They still don't but I'm blind

vestal crane
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But also you could have a shit tier PSU

dreamy chasm
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I was looking at 5600x power consumption bc I'm on 144p

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And can't read

marsh granite
vestal crane
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You could try undervolting the GPU until you get a new PSU

marsh granite
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I’m surprised it’s still alive at this point

dreamy chasm
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You could try capping the power consumption of the 5800x

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If it was fine with the 3700x

marsh granite
dreamy chasm
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Turn that off and try running it stock

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pbo naturally pushes voltages and power consumption whenever temperatures allow it

hard drift
marsh granite
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πŸ˜‚ my pc just dies after a nice prog

dreamy chasm
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You shouldn't need PBO for ffxiv anyway

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Unless you specifically need it for other tasks

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You alternatively could set a power limit on your gpu

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Or cap framerate so your hardware isn't pushing itself until it hits a bottleneck somewhere

vestal crane
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Your PSU is out of warranty anyways

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So I'd defs upgrade asap

dreamy chasm
vestal crane
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Urgh

dreamy chasm
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50w is a noticeable bump

vestal crane
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Intel's power consumption is disgusting

marsh granite
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Intel πŸ”₯πŸš’

dreamy chasm
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Their newer non topend chips are fine

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12400 runs at a reasonable temp/power consumption

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12900k does run hot but it has the actual performance to justify it

dull garnet
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5600X chads keep winning

marsh granite
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The one thing I hate the most

vestal crane
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I have a 3600X and its great

dreamy chasm
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12400f's practically similar performance at 120 bucks less now

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3600 was a good chip for its time, yeah

vestal crane
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Only issue I had was cooling but I just needed to repaste it

dreamy chasm
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I have a 3700x crammed into an itx pc

marsh granite
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How’s the temp

dreamy chasm
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A little hot

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I think it just needs a repasting though

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Not to mention that ambient temp in my room is also just god awful

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35c, anyone?

dull garnet
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unless you put zero paste on that seems unlikely to me

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paste doesn't go bad in a matter of years

dreamy chasm
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Might've torqued it wrong

hard drift
dreamy chasm
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Unsure

dull garnet
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corner to corner, corner to corner

dreamy chasm
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65w power cap and I get 88c during load

marsh granite
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I’ve always wanted to build a small pc. Was thinking of nzxt mini itx case. But it’s πŸ”₯

dreamy chasm
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But I also just have godawful ambient

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It's fine if you use nylon screws but, it's also still a jank fix that shouldn't be necessary at all lol

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Either way, ffxiv runs fine

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I'm happy

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But I'll definitely check paste application if I ever have to take it apart

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The m.2 slot in this thing is a royal pita to get to unless you remove the motherboard

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And planning on slotting in a budget nvme once I have the funds for it

deep sapphire
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lol

dreamy chasm
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I forgot I tucked and forgot about the cables back here

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Hh

dull garnet
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we might have a new dust champion

potent arrow
dull garnet
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yes

dreamy chasm
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I'm buying an nv1, cloning the boot drive over and wiping the ssd and turning it into secondary storage

potent arrow
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Fr lol

dreamy chasm
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Seriously?

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wh

hard drift
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πŸ‘€

dreamy chasm
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Alright

obsidian rover
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I'm gonna buy a laptop for school but I also want something I can use to play 14 in the middle of my down periods, I've got 1.5K to spend max, any ideas?

dreamy chasm
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Ive heard decent things abt the vivobook oled

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im not the most knowledgeable on laptops though

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Any ultrabook with an 1135g7/1165g7 should be fine if you're looking to just play ffxiv on low settings

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Otherwise, look for an mx450/gtx 1650 minimum and look for reviews that check for build quality and battery life

glossy timber
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for 1.5k you should very comfortably get something with a 1650

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dont tell me na is cursed

potent arrow
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@dreamy chasm
You better post a video of you throwing that SSD into a river or a lake or something here

dreamy chasm
dreamy chasm
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But

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it's overkill for ffxiv

potent arrow
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1tb should be fine lol

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I think you can have like 100episodes of hentai idk

dreamy chasm
modest moss
potent arrow
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I would if Newegg gave them to me for free

modest moss
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and I thought you cared

potent arrow
dreamy chasm
# obsidian rover I'm gonna buy a laptop for school but I also want something I can use to play 14...
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Solid build, 6hish browsing battery life

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2 hour gaming but, you're keeping that shit plugged in for that anyway

dull garnet
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looks like a tank

modest moss
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that's pretty reasonable

dull garnet
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m1 macbook air

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ez

dreamy chasm
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It's a 16 inch gaming laptop that doesn't cool like absolute shit

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not much you can do

dull garnet
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buy something not so big and heavy?

glossy timber
dreamy chasm
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Not really

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Well

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I could be wrong

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Let me check reviews again rq

glossy timber
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Legions are alright they're just fairly middling for build quality

modest moss
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lenovo legion have a fairly solid reputation afaik

glossy timber
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Good budget machines

modest moss
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he just wants it for downtime, sounds about right

glossy timber
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Those arrow keys are a bit special but that's a nitpick

dreamy chasm
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An ultrabook with a slower gpu would probably fit schoolwork better

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Idk which ones are good at 1500ish though

glossy timber
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It's a bit of a big boy but it's not exactly unwieldy

dull garnet
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have to buy a gym sub so they have the strength to lug it around

dreamy chasm
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tf, this doesnt seem like complete garbage

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know anything about the zenbook 14, ike?

mental garnet
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Hi! I think I'm supposed to ask here, not in the beginner-lounge, but please correct if I'm wrong about that.

I am waiting for the game to actually be available again, because they cut off sales and closed new free accounts the SAME day I finally grasped that the Endwalker Benchmark tester is for the whole blasted game, not just "the expansion," ran the tester, and determined that my Dell XPS 13 9350 will (theoretically) run the game. The benchmark came back Low, on the standard laptop stuff.

However, the game won't fit on my harddrive anyway, because it's a 128 GB drive and I'm short about 10 gig of space required. So I'm gonna have to put FF on an external when I can get it.

It has a USB 3.0 port, a USB 3.0 w Power Share port, and a USB-C port.

Do I need to go with an SSD like a Samsung T7, or can I run the game on a flash drive plugged directly into one of the ports?

glossy timber
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Not particularly, their rep seems solid enough, but that gpu will cry with just about anything not ffxiv

dull garnet
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that lenovo weighs 5.41 lbs lmao

modest moss
dull garnet
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my thinkpad is a bit less than that and fuck lugging that around all day

glossy timber
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I'd advise against running games off a thumbstick but any external proper drive will be fine

dreamy chasm
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This seems a lot more reasonable for something portable

modest moss
glossy timber
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Also that yeah

dull garnet
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3.06 lbs

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much more reasonable

modest moss
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it'll perform a lot better

glossy timber
dreamy chasm
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Yeah.

glossy timber
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At this point we leave it in their hands ig

dreamy chasm
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3050ti and a 5800u should be more than enough for light gaming

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specially ffxiv

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Could even run heavier titles as long as youre not pumping everything to ultra

glossy timber
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If you really want upgradability you can go intel for thunderbolt but egpus are meme anyway

dreamy chasm
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500 bucks for an enclosure tired

modest moss
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that Acer would be good if you'll actually use it out and about, 14" is too small for my liking though

dreamy chasm
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It's up to them

modest moss
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yeah they have some decent options

dreamy chasm
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I'd personally rather not lug around a gaming laptop everywhere

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But, if they don't need physical textbooks, that could change ig

modest moss
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Cyan for tech mentor

dreamy chasm
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Nah, I just know a tiny amount of things

modest moss
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humble too

dull garnet
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14 is like perfect imo

dreamy chasm
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It's also just out of their budget

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The 3050ti models are 2400 on amazon

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2800 for a 3060

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it's just way too much

dull garnet
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imagine paying that much for a thinkpad

dreamy chasm
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Where is it sub 2000

dull garnet
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i'd much sooner get a mb lol

mental garnet
# modest moss are you comfortable reinstalling windows? if so, I'd say replace the m.2 ssd wit...

Not especially, a friend got this for me second-hand because I've been on little chromebooks for the last decade. I don't actually have a disk... or an optical driver for that matter, I'm not sure I can redo Windows. When he asked what I needed to do with it I said lighter weight would be helpful b/c my joints are bad, I want to run some digital art software with a digital pen tablet, browse the internet and watch Twitch without the whole thing hanging, but it's not like i'm trying to play MMORPGs or anything... facepalm lol.

I could probably do the actual physical opening on the laptop, but this is one of those super light cram all the things laptops.
Samsung 7 1 TB external SSD is ~$115, whereas the other internal ones are currently $80 for 256 GB, $240 for the 512 GB is out of stock, and $352 for 1T. https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/pfydresults/245504?categoryId=5683

Plus if I end up having to upgrade in the vaguely near future, the external will work with other machines.

dreamy chasm
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You can install third party m.2 ssds and be fine

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Currently 100 bucks for an m.2

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Use a usb drive to install windows

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If you're comfortable with a reinstallation

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But

mental garnet
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Oh, I'd assumed best to use parts from the same manufacturer as the comptuer for things that go inside. XD

dreamy chasm
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It depends, really

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Sometimes that is the case

dull garnet
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imagine if it had an SSD whitelist lmao

dreamy chasm
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But, m.2 drives always just conform to a standard

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And if it fits that standard it works

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I could understand wanting to just get an external SSD, though

mental garnet
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I'm kind of behind on tech, and never really built computers. I've only opened up a laptop to help a friend whose mom spilled honeyed tea in it and just... hastily wiped off the keyboard and then closed it and hid it. Alas, couldn't save it.

potent arrow
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Too much

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coffee

dreamy chasm
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M.2 drives are fairly easy to replace, thankfully

mental garnet
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I do know it's integrated graphics. I think the RAM is too.

dull garnet
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have fun cloning to another m.2

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a clean install would make more sense at that stage ig, but some people are weird

dreamy chasm
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The hardest part of the disassembly would probably just be the actual bottom itself

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This seems to be a video for your model? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqT_1cXKnqA

In this video, we disassemble Dell XPS 13 9350 laptop. Steps and order we remove laptop parts:
Bottom case cover ~0:17, Battery ~2:57, Touch Pad Ribbon ~4:45, LCD assembly disconnect ~5:19, Heatsink ~6:36 ~10:00, WiFi & Bluetooth Card ~8:04, USB IO Board ~9:10, Cooling fan ~9:55, Motherboard & CPU ~10:04, Power Jack ~10:28, LCD Screen hinges &...

β–Ά Play video
dull garnet
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i don't get why manufacturers utilise clips and screws nowadays

dreamy chasm
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There are some plastic clips you'll need to disengage on top of some screws, which can be annoying

mental garnet
dreamy chasm
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Ah, man

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Those are a rarity

potent arrow
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oh lol if its a xps I could always help with disasembly

dreamy chasm
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Some laptops these days come with the bottom glued shut haha

mental garnet
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It's about 5 or 6 years old I think

potent arrow
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I can do them blindfolded

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Ive had too many issues with them xD

modest moss
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yeah it's not great, it's an intel 6th gen with onboard gpu

dull garnet
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my thinkpad is two screws and then i can access cpu, ram and sata

modest moss
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it's gonna suck for XIV but it should run

potent arrow
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I just smack my tp with a hammer

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and the back opens

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because all the screw posts are broken

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and the back is held on by tape

mental garnet
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Her machine I did NOT have one, I just drew an almost full size copy of the bottom of the machine, marked every single screw location on the drawing and numbered them, taped the screws in number order, and did it all again on the next layer inside. XD

dull garnet
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i'd hate to be technology sarah owns

dreamy chasm
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LMAO

potent arrow
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Listen

mental garnet
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I didn't want to screw up different sizes and have to eyeball tiny differences.

potent arrow
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the t480 has seen shit

modest moss
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Sarah - Tech Dominatrix and Masochist

mental garnet
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lol

potent arrow
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you aint wrong

dreamy chasm
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once the back's off, the ssd mount should just be in a readily accessible area

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And that's also in the service manual

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If you want to see how you go about doing it

deep sapphire
dreamy chasm
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Note; You or someone you know will have to take time to reinstall windows when you do this

mental garnet
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Ok, so it can't just be... copied over. Alas, friend who got it is five states away.

modest moss
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installing windows from a usb drive isn't that tricky

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these nerds can walk you through it

mental garnet
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I haven't actually installed MUCH on it yet, for a while I kept using my chromebook b/c the jump over to Windows 10 kept making me go WHAT?! WHY--WHAT IS HAPPENING a stupifying amount of times. The last Windows I used before this was... XP? finameLUL

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.> Is there a way to get it ONTO a USB drive just from it being on my laptop already?

modest moss
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I guess you could buy a usb ssd enclosure and clone it over but I've never done that

dreamy chasm
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If you don't have anything critical on it, you could probably just wipe it fresh, would be a lot easier than trying to clone your install

mental garnet
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Someone asked if I have a console, when I said yeah they were like just play it on that.

Okay but my console is a Switch. XD So. I do have a 512 GB micro sd card I picked up for it that I haven't used at all yet though, that's more than big enough to hold everything on the current drive.

dull garnet
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i don't like cloning so much to begin with

mental garnet
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Right, but if I wipe it, where do I then install windows from?

modest moss
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here's the thing about doing a fresh install

dull garnet
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a bootable usb

modest moss
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you don't wipe your current ssd

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you remove that and keep it safe, so you can put it back in later if shit goes bad

mental garnet
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Ahhh. Okay, but can I create a Windows installer from that drive?

modest moss
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so you use the windows creation tool to make a bootable usb thumb drive

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there's a tool yeah

mental garnet
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Ooooh.

modest moss
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and then you put in the new ssd, boot from the usb, install fresh windows to the new ssd

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and you have the old one as an emergency backup that you know works

dreamy chasm
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Yup

mental garnet
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There's some software already loaded on here, does the tool make installers for that too?

dreamy chasm
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Youd unfortunately have to reinstall everything yourself, since you're installing a windows install fresh

dull garnet
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doing a clean install would kill any oem bloat too

dreamy chasm
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^

sweet sun
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Does anyone here know if the new Razer Naga that isn't the Trinity suffers from the same issues the Trinity did/does?

dreamy chasm
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Clean windows = nothing unnecessary that leeches off of your performance and battery

mental garnet
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Yeah, he did a clean install before he sent it to me, but all but two programs are ones he set up on it for me too.

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Well. Three, but I need to uninstall Twitch Sings. I only used it for a week before they took it down and it isn't coming back.

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Thought I did that already.

manic turret
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Picture of my PC! πŸ˜„

dull garnet
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nice

modest moss
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that is one of the less disgusting RGB implementations I've seen in this channel

dull garnet
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i like the lack of an aio

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that's definitely way too many fans though

modest moss
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if you were a regular you'd know that was high praise indeed, Peachimon

dull garnet
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the last time shue gave a compliment was when he turned 20

manic turret
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Aww heheh thanks : D

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Heres a picture with better lighting haha i think it shows off the colors a bit more clearly

latent grotto
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Apple logo

manic turret
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Trololo :3

mental garnet
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"Note: The memory is integrated on the system board." Doesn't that mean I can't change the RAM?

latent grotto
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Sounds like its soldered

manic turret
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Got that sticker from my ipad so figured id stick it on there

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I do love my ipad I must say

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So apple didnt get it all wrong I guess haha

mental garnet
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At least it's already got 8 GB of RAM. Integrated graphics was a ??? though. "How the hell does any computer in this decade only have 128 MEGABYTES of video RAM?"

dreamy chasm
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Integrated tends to just eat up system ram when it needs more

mental garnet
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Yeah

modest moss
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fair warning, FFXIV will suck on that laptop

mental garnet
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Samsung SSD CM871 M.2 2280 128 GB is the current harddrive.

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I need to try it again on a lower resolution, I was told that might help.

modest moss
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I'd imagine a PS4 will perform better

mental garnet
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I have a Switch. πŸ™‚

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It goes "uhhhhhhh... would you like to play Secret of Mana?"

modest moss
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I just want you to be making informed choices before you spend money on old hardware that was never designed for gaming

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that you might be better off taking that cash and adding a little more and buying a PS4

mental garnet
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Ahhh, thank you. Yeah, that's part of why I was initially thinking just go external.

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Aren't PS4 like $400?

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wait ffs I have google, sorry.

dreamy chasm
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A used one might be less

modest moss
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can probably get used for a couple of hundred I'd think

dreamy chasm
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Seems to be 250-300 bucks?

mental garnet
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Unfortunately I also have to replace my phone. sigh It's limping.

dreamy chasm
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Oof

mental garnet
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I try to take good care of my tech, and it was near top of the line when I bought it.

modest moss
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shit is so expensive :(

dreamy chasm
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Everything stops working eventually

mental garnet
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cough Over seven years ago.

dreamy chasm
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Yeahh, that's a long time for a phone to live

mental garnet
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It's a Galaxy Note 4. User replaceable batteries help.

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The screen's still better than half the stuff available now.

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I think I've been through four batteries on it, and I had to replace the bezel and cover on the camera because out of the 10 hours it's spent outside of a case EVER, I managed to drop it on concrete. ~_~ Fortunately it was just the outside part.

But i keep running out of space, it keeps overheating, doesn't handle stuff so well overall anymore. I think it's mostly a ram and capacity issue, but sometimes the SIM card starts to overheat too. My girl said she's gonna go off if I don't have a new one by spring. finameLUL

dreamy chasm
modest moss
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oh hey looks at Note 4 next to me

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chad phone

mental garnet
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I kept holding out hope that user replaceable batteries would come back.

modest moss
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I occasionally think about replacing mine but the screen is so nice, to get anything comparable would cost loads

sly elk
modest moss
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and I don't do much with it

sly elk
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your psu doesn't have the extra 4 pin? 😦

sly elk
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cute cute

mental garnet
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She used to have a Note 4 as well, bought them together (and got screwed on the rebate by Tmobile AGAIN fffsfjkldsjg), but her motherboard just up and flipped everything off a few years ago.

dull garnet
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is that a 30 series thing

sly elk
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that's the eps plug for the motherboard

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for cpu overclocking, I think

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if you have a z/x board those are usually an extra 8 pins

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that one's got an extra 4 instead, but still

dull garnet
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oh lol, why did i think GPU

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doi

mental garnet
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I hate the curved screen trend. And they put them on all the better phones now. ~_~ If I'm gonna lay out that much, I want the better amount of RAM and disk space. Because I sure as hell am not trying to spend that much AGAIN within a few years of purchase. rawr.

But now I'm just ranting.

sly elk
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come to think of it, mine's 8+4 as well lol

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i thought it was 8+8. well, anyway.

sly elk
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I used to hate them on desktop monitors but now I'm ok with them I guess

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but that was the one thing I disliked about my galaxy s9

dull garnet
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i hate curved screens too

mental garnet
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I drop mine too much. I usually manage to catch it, and cases help, but klgrjwkljie.

dull garnet
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no complaints about my pixel 6

sly elk
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when I have to reach to the left side of the screen with my thumb

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it pushes the limits of what my hand can handle lol

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and with those stupid rounded edge screens the root of my thumb rubs against the edge and it triggers other things

mental garnet
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I have autoimmune arthritis, my hands are often jacked up.

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AH CRAP I forgot it's community day

sly elk
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hheh my right index finger is unhappy and has been for a few days

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i think i pulled a muscle in it or something

mental garnet
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back later I have an entire pokemon event to do in 20 minutes.
Aaaaaand it needs an update. nrrrrgh.

sly elk
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good luck

mental garnet
modest moss
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no replaceable battery, no 3.5mm jack

dull garnet
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You get over no 3.5mm in about 5 minutes

sly elk
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derp

potent arrow
sly elk
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that feeling when you order uber eats from a place nearby and the driver drives past your house to make another delivery first

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at least that other one is nearby πŸ˜„

vast gorge
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Whenever I start the game, it freezes a lot, especially when moving around or using abilities, the game freezes for a few seconds. The game will freeze when an ability is used, then the next time that ability is used the game wont freeze and just play normally. This seems to be for every ability visual effect and it's really annoying because even though it goes away after awhile of playing, every time I close the game and start it up again all this freezing comes back. It didn't always do this. It only started a few days ago so I'm guessing that the 6.05 patch isn't causing this. Does have to do with the game not preloading effects? How would I fix this?

potent arrow
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Caved his hood in lol

mental garnet
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O.o Oh noooo re ^^^

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Shocking update: no shiny in the 8 minutes I had the game actually loaded of the event. It's usually even odds on whether I get one on CD when I play most the span, tho.

dull garnet
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@potent arrow did the 6xx come yet?

potent arrow
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tmmrw

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why?

dull garnet
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merely curious

dull garnet
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keep thinking about hd 600

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πŸ˜”

odd sand
potent arrow
dull garnet
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those suck

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lol

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they ruined the tuning on the hd 800 s

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6XX are untouched from 650 luckily

odd sand
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If I upgraded from the 6XX I'd probably just yolo the HD820

dull garnet
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ew closed

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800 S would be my yolo

sly elk
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my yolo would be some hifimans and a really good amp. or maybe those tesla ones

dull garnet
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stax

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:chad:

odd sand
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I wonder if there is even all that much difference between closed and open. I doubt they're totally silent from the outside.

umbral moss
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there's an IGG going that has a slim amp that's magsafe compatible

odd sand
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ngl part of it is I really like that glass look on the 820

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When I visit my brother down in LA at the end of the month I'll stop by the Schiit factory store there for a DAC and amp

dull garnet
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you've never used closed headphones?

odd sand
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I think most headphones end up being open ones at the lower pricepoints right?

dull garnet
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i think the opposite is true really

sly elk
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when you visit make sure to bring some headphones

odd sand
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I had a couple pairs of Sony headphones. I had something similar to this except with a plastic reflex hinge on both sides. It looked fragile but was actually indestructible. Very impressive quality for like $60 at the time

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Then I bought a pair of HD598s I wore for like 10 years before getting the HD6XX

dull garnet
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chad

odd sand
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So maybe the Sony ones were considered closed

dull garnet
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its quite easy to tell

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those are closed

sly elk
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yea open is when the back has holes or mesh or something. lots of holes or lots of mesh.

dull garnet
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jep

odd sand
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Was really amazed I never broke the sony ones for the number of times they got accidentally stepped on, tripped over, caught in the computer chair legs while moving the chair etc.

modest moss
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I prefer closed because I'm often in the same room as my family and they already moan about hearing my music

dull garnet
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that is certainly a consideration but i prefer how open sound

dull garnet
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6XX vs 8XX

odd sand
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The HD8XX sound like they wanted to cross Beats with Sennheiser. Trying to upsell consumers into an expensive pricepoint, but expecting they wouldn't think they were good unless they emphasized bass and midranges for hiphop and shit

dull garnet
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not something you want to do to a headphone renowned for being neutral lol

odd sand
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Or maybe that's what you get when you cut $500 of corners between that and the real 800S

jaunty light
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Did they actually tune them differently kek64

dull garnet
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yeah

odd sand
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I guess I don't really know what the difference is between the two types from a user experience. I'll have to see if I can find a store demoing both of them after I move. Probably somewhere in Chicago if I take a trip down there

sly elk
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open means you can hear things around you instead of just your headphones

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but what else that means, depends on how the headphones were designed

dull garnet
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true

sly elk
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like on some open headphones, the music will feel like it's being played on a really nice stereo in the room, but not right on your ears. which is awesome

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I believe that's called a wide soundstage?

dull garnet
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my friend had some AKG K550 and they sounded very close to open

sly elk
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my dt880s don't sound that way unfortunately. they sound like I'm wearing headphones but at the same time not wearing headphones

dull garnet
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those are semi open, i think

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soundstage on my 6xx is great

sly elk
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right lol

dull garnet
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k701 was also good

sly elk
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honestly closed ones can give me a good headache

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because they do that whole 'sealing' thing

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which gives you better bass, and prevents leakage, but if you're sensitive to air pressure in your ears? eh...

dull garnet
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definitely

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beats πŸ…±οΈass

modest moss
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I just want more of these

dull garnet
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lol

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i remember those

sly elk
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the fat sonys

modest moss
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still using my pair, bass is awesome

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but they'll die soon and I'll be sad af

dull garnet
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don't really see why they would

sly elk
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they made a model of those that was huge

modest moss
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like 4 years ago one ear stopped working, I whacked it and it magically worked again

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maybe they're immortal now

sly elk
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lol

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I always wanted the gigantic version

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it's the closest thing to being a headphone sandwich

odd sand
modest moss
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I've never soldered a thing in my life

odd sand
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Headphones are pretty simply tech, so if they break it's generally only a small handful of things that can be wrong

dull garnet
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voice coil could break, but that seems unlikely

sly elk
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I dunno who this is but

odd sand
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You hold the wiring to the contact, place the solder wire on top and press the solder gun and melt it

sly elk
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the xb1000s were I thinkt he largest headphones ever made

dull garnet
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nice thing about higher end headphones is modular cabling

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still want to buy a braided cable for my 6xx

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got the longer 6ft stock hd 650 cable for now

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4ft felt too short

deep sapphire
dull garnet
deep sapphire
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im listening to phil collins

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supporting your economy

dull garnet
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i'll join you

deep sapphire
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TAKKKKEEEEE MEEEEE HOMMMMEEEEE

modest moss
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I'm listening to zoomer pop

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abcdefu

deep sapphire
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sussudio? nice bro

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sus

dull garnet
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i typed genesis into spotify and it brought up grimes' album of the same name

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πŸ˜”

deep sapphire
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LOL

dull garnet
modest moss
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phil collins' solo work > genesis

dull garnet
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i do like that album tho

deep sapphire
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I actually agree

dull garnet
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as cringe as grimes is

deep sapphire
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Sega Genesis > Genesis

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tbh

modest moss
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he did some bangers solo

dull garnet
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Mega Drive > Genesis

deep sapphire
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thats just wrong

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sorry

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all wrong

dull garnet
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SoA are clowns

deep sapphire
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the genesis logo looks way cooler

modest moss
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I wonder why they didn't call it Genesis in UK

modest moss
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normally the US market gets the dumbed down term

dull garnet
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bc it is called MD in Japan, I assume it was a copyright thing

deep sapphire
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I read something that they agreed on Genesis because they thought it would appeal to the bible belt lol

modest moss
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surely a motoring nation like the US would fancy a mega drive

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GAMING IN MAH TRUCK

deep sapphire
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it was a copyright issue I believe

dull garnet
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[Sega co-founder David Rosen] was also responsible for renaming the machine for the American market. It has been suggested that this was the result of a trademark dispute, but Rosen is adamant he simply didn't like the term 'Mega Drive'. 'I came up with the name "Genesis" because I felt this would be a new beginning for Sega,' he explains. 'At first, the Japanese management didn't care for the word, but I insisted on it.

deep sapphire
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holy shit based

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and Sega was founded by americans

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(thats why they are the best)

dull garnet
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oddly

deep sapphire
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(cause america is the best)

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( . Y . )

dull garnet
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wasn't the DC swirl copyrighted or something too so they had to reverse it

deep sapphire
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nah they just used different colors for each region

dull garnet
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ah right

deep sapphire
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EU was blue

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Japan was... orange? or NA was and red

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one of them was one of those

dull garnet
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orange yes

modest moss
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I had a mega drive instead of a snes

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still think I made the right call

deep sapphire
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yeah I grew up with a genesis

dull garnet
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i grew up with a playstation

modest moss
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child

deep sapphire
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ironically we had a snes before but from what my dad told me we traded it with our relatives lol

dull garnet
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snes is good for nintendo games and jrpgs, md is better for everything else

deep sapphire
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I was like 1 or 2 so I dont remember it but I found some tapes awhile ago of my brother playing mario paint

modest moss
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speedy is a filthy millenial

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hank is honorary gen x

deep sapphire
dull garnet
deep sapphire
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get back to playing Croc

dull garnet
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hey croc isn't that bad

deep sapphire
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see

dull garnet
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its better than sonic

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but not smw

modest moss
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hot take coming:

deep sapphire
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why does Sega insist of porting Sonic 1 to everything which honestly isnt that good but refuses to port Sonic 3 & K to anything because MUH MICHAEL JACKSON

modest moss
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sonic 1 is better than any mario game except smw on og gameboy

dull garnet
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smw is a snes game

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perhaps you mean sml

deep sapphire
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super mario land was pretty based

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specially 2

modest moss
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maybe sml yeah

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it was dope anyway

deep sapphire
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the wario land games were awesome as well

dull garnet
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i prefer sml2

deep sapphire
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I miss wario land 4 in particular

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was my first GBA game

modest moss
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only mario game I actually finished

deep sapphire
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so good

dull garnet
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Completed it on xmas day

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takes me like 25 mins now lol

deep sapphire
dull garnet
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still gotta play SML3: WL

modest moss
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I want an og gameboy and tetris

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the fat ones cost so much now though

dull garnet
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that'll set you back about Β£50+ now

deep sapphire
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wario is the perfect character for america, fat as fuck but sexy biceps and drives a Cadillac

dull garnet
deep sapphire
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nerd

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wheres your Sega Nomad

dull garnet
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in my ass

jaunty light
deep sapphire
dull garnet
deep sapphire
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my genesis is clean

sly elk
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that is an impressive amount of dust

deep sapphire
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shows genesis > mega drive

modest moss
deep sapphire
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infact john burton the guy from TT who is british calls it a genesis

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what are you gonna do now

modest moss
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gonna flex in my healer glam

dull garnet
sly elk
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here's mine

modest moss
sly elk
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the toy version of course πŸ˜„

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what does having goodies have to do with having or not having a gf

dull garnet
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because shue is in a findom marriage

modest moss
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do I really need to explain the comedy trope of nerds not getting laid?

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are we really being that obtuse?

dull garnet
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your tropes are dated

modest moss
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at least I'm getting dated, etc

dull garnet
deep sapphire
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the one that doesnt have HD graphics on the top