technology-discussion

[cedar arch]

No

Its a good one

[hard drift]

You won’t see that price most likely

[cedar arch]

8gb vram ye

@hard drift well yeah

Cause scalpers

I'm just saying what price they will be once they hit the shelf

[deep sapphire]

lol tried to log on

lobby error

[cedar arch]

Oof

[hard drift]

Well the high end models will come out first, there’s no founder

So we might not see it even with no scalpers

[cedar arch]

.3. What

[hard drift]

It’s up to aibs to make a msrp model

And given what people pay not likely lmao

[cedar arch]

.3. I'm saying what they priced it at themselves

[deep sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551141303367368754/928095501797167214/IMG_6308.png

[cedar arch]

They announced the price of 3050s will be 250, and no price announced for the 3090tis

[hard drift]

The 3090 will be 2k no doubt

[cedar arch]

Probably

[dreamy chasm]

250 launch

400 scalper price

[cedar arch]

Scalpers triple the price

So 750

[hard drift]

400 will be aib price I’m sure

Prob 500ish for strix cards

[jaunty light]

we can believe, the generous jensen has had enough leather jackets, he is giving them away for $999!

[hard drift]

Lmfao he needs a new one hence 3090ti

[jaunty light]

he neesd a leather wrapped bugatti

[dreamy chasm]

Str*x tax omegalul

[modest moss]

uh

Norton Antivirus now has built in ETH miner

Norton take 15%

wild

https://community.norton.com/en/forums/faq-norton-crypto

[deep sapphire]

remember when Razer tried this

they would use your PC to mine when you were afk and rewarded you with store credit and when someone did the math you were getting royally ripped off

[jaunty light]

woops forgot to hook my fan controller back up

was wondering why my VRMs were toasty toasty

The coin mining fee is currently 15% of the crypto allocated to the miner.

[dreamy chasm]

Literally just mine that shit yourself, lmfao

[jaunty light]

for the PLEASURE of us installing our shitty malware on your system

we get 15%

[dreamy chasm]

I wonder if me staying with defender is a bad thing

I occasionally do install bit defender and malwarebytes for a deep scan, but I uninstall it right after

[modest moss]

windows defender is generally fine unless you're in the habit of visiting shady sites and downloading random shit

[umbral moss]

most attack vectors are hardware level exploits at this point

you don't get computer herpes without some serious doing

[finite frost]

i have a lengthy process question, so does anyone know how to get back access to an HDD from an external dock because of a bad windows update(Access Denied) ? plz dm me on that, ty

[deep sapphire]

Yeah use Linux live or something that can access files and then you can copy them. However if it was installed on secure boot it’s possible the drive contents won’t be accessible so your mileage my vary

But if your update went bad you could just boot into safe mode as well

[finite frost]

it's defined as a non bootable drive by windows, i'm able to see it on external, hear it running okay, and I was able to write some permissions (i was blind) to access but was unable to get in.

[deep sapphire]

Alright then yeah use any flavor of Linux but one with a live OS option so you don’t have to install it and then you can just copy the files to another drive

If the files are still write protected you can try winaero tweaked

Tweaker

[jaunty light]

Who you callin a tweaker

[sly elk]

geez, TSMC on their jobs

Different positions may have different requirements, so work hours vary, according to the principal engineer. “An equipment engineer might start work at 8 o’clock in the morning and leave around 9 o’clock at night, but is it normal? This may happen two or three days a week. On a production line, the equipment must be maintained.

“If you are a process engineer, it will be more stable. Maybe you can start work at 8:30 a.m.and leave before 7:30 p.m. If there are some urgent matters, you may have to stay later.”

[jaunty light]

Sounds about right

Fabs are magic

Run by the elves, aka humans living there

[umbral moss]

yeah, that sounds about right for semiconductor

fabs run 24/7 so if you're not a technician/assembly worker you may end up overseeing multiple shifts

hourly wageslaves work exactly 8 and fuck off, engineers are there until the issues are resolved

[sly elk]

what';s hilarious is this reddit thread

has a number of taiwanese people shitting on americans in it

like they write it like americans are too dumb/stupid to work in their plants

[jaunty light]

Its true

[sly elk]

that stereotype is a load of crap though

[jaunty light]

All americans will do is try to configure the assembly line to make mcdonalds

[sharp star]

but they can’t make working McFlurry machines

[jaunty light]

I bet tsmc can

[deep sapphire]

Imagine calling a country that invented the thing they make dumb

[modern elbow]

can someone help me figure out how to sync my games w google drive

trying to not have to redo my hotbar each time i go to diff pc

not sure which folder to put in the drive

[modest moss]

you mean you just want to back up FFXIV?

Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn

C:\Users\your username\Documents\My Games\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn

that folder has all character config

[umbral moss]

🤔

must be nice to be so ethnocentric that you think the process engineers who work for intel, an american company, can't do the job that you, the contractor in taiwan, are asked to perform

[modern elbow]

final fantasy isnt in my documents

nvm

[sly elk]

hehe

[modern elbow]

do i make it

a folder

or do the sync thing

[modest moss]

I just copy that folder to another drive every so often

[deft sphinx]

@hard drift FOUND THE PERFECT MB !!!! https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/ProArt/ProArt-X570-CREATOR-WIFI/

look at thous nice USB ports XD

Plus it has 3 m.2 slots :3

[sly elk]

that board gets my stamp of approval just because it has thunderbolt

that design's kinda

-nods-

it has an early 2000s japanese electronics vibe to it

[deft sphinx]

I LIKE IT SO MUCH

and it’s HALF the price of the damn Asus EXTREME

[sly elk]

I dig the labeling

it looks like helvetica

[deft sphinx]

yeah it was made for workstations

can still game on ofc

it even has an USB c inside >.>

unfortunatly I can’t find it in my country :/

wtf

there is the EXTREAM one but not this one...

[dreamy chasm]

I cant get behind spending several hundreds on a motherboard

Granted, I don't use my systems for professional work

[umbral moss]

depends on what else they're using to make the board

the XXXTREME performance boards tend to have beefyboy VRM setups instead of the wimpy reference ones

[dreamy chasm]

I guess

I'm a set and forget kinda gal

As long as I can unlock turbo without shit vrm temps and throttling I'm fine w the board

[modest moss]

it's on Amazon Germany, they ship to Romania but it's €434

[deft sphinx]

I know :3 maximum I can spend on an MB is 600 eur

and this one is perfect

[modest moss]

so buy from amazon.de or similar

[deft sphinx]

ughh, I will go there if when I have the moeny, still need a little bit before I can get it, in the mean time it might show on stock on thous website in my country cuz I found two that sold this MB

[modest moss]

it's a bit less on amazon spain, €419 plus shipping

[deft sphinx]

.> damn

[modest moss]

so it is available in europe at least

[dreamy chasm]

Amazon (s)pain

[modest moss]

eh shouldn't be too much of a pain eu to eu

[dreamy chasm]

Hopefully

[modest moss]

it's amazon so really the only gamble you're taking is return shipping & insurance

[deft sphinx]

yeah >.> that’s way I wanna see maybe I can find it in my country in stock some were......hopefuly

[buoyant falcon]

I don't know why, but certain processes in Windows seem to take longer lately.

Things like launching an app or copying and pasting a file.

[hard drift]

that board is a lot newer, and costs around the price of the hero boards

[deft sphinx]

yap, got not issue with the price given what it has on it :3

[hard drift]

well that's good atleast

[deft sphinx]

I mean maybe I could find another one with 2 usb c and 3 m.2 slots but I haven’t found it except the EXTREAM version

and that is double the price of this proart ver

[paper tusk]

to fix perms on an external drive, open an admin command prompt, and pop in
takeown /f e:\ /r
(replace E with the drive letter of the device)
to set permissions navigate to the drive root ( E: ) and pop in
ICACLS "E:\*" /reset /T

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-i5-12490f-is-china-exclusive-6-core-alder-lake-desktop-cpu-with-20mb-l3-cache @deep sapphire not a good look for intel

[odd sand]

For what purpose

[hard drift]

no idea it's higher spec'd too for base and boost at the same MTP

closest would be 12500 but a 12500f doesn't exist(yet?)

[dreamy chasm]

man

h610 having 1 memory channel max seems like a mistake

unless they end up having sub 100 dollar b660 boards on the market

[hard drift]

that's cursed

[dreamy chasm]

https://b2c-contenthub.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Intel-Alder-Lake-chipsets.png?resize=1200%2C611&quality=50&strip=all

midrange is on lock but the budget users...

[hard drift]

what the fuck.... that's awful

[dreamy chasm]

this isnt an era where ram bandwidth isnt an issue either

[hard drift]

i don't even think amds low end is that bad....

[dreamy chasm]

amd lowend is nonexistent rn

every budget build is on 10100f

[hard drift]

i'm talking their chipset

[dreamy chasm]

oh

[hard drift]

the a520

[dreamy chasm]

aite, well

yeah, a520 still retains dual mem channels

[paper tusk]

(thought capture card was DOA. had to put it in another pcie slot. hope my gpu likes being toasty)

can now cap in 4k though

so I guess it's worth it

[hard drift]

one of your slots dead?

[dreamy chasm]

there's the power play of just buying a riser to tape onto part of your case

[hard drift]

[paper tusk]

pretty sure not. it's the second physical pciex16 slot and had a cap card in it before that worked fine (*fine as in would make the system crash waking up fdrom sleep)

[dreamy chasm]

it might cause fires if you get a shit one but hey, at least your gpu isnt toasty

[hard drift]

cursed

[hard drift]

windows in general has problems sometimes waking up from sleep

[paper tusk]

have the feeling when i maybe can possibly upgrade gpu will have to get rid of sound card because I kinda dont have enough slots for all my crap 😐

[hard drift]

get an external one

[dreamy chasm]

You could move to an external dac

[paper tusk]

that would be smart but I am not the smart

[hard drift]

lmao

[paper tusk]

most external dac's are stereo only also and I want the option of multi channel out

[hard drift]

soundblaster x3 has that not the best but it works

[paper tusk]

($135 is kinda too much for my fun budget at the moment)

[hard drift]

i mean it's something to keep in mind for what you want

i just knew of it for multi channel out because i daily drive it

[paper tusk]

yeah unless i get an old one, pray it still works on win 10 (with the unofficial xfi driver pack) and mod the guts out with better op amp, better grounding, and maybe better caps

[hard drift]

i wonder what this one looks like under the hood

[paper tusk]

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/almis-x-fi-mod-hotrodding-sound-blaster-x-fi-models.589078/page-11

that's the pcie card though which i have right now

i think the usb xfi is pretty similar overall

maybe a pci to usb bridge added on

and if creative is nice, sockets for the opamps to not have to solder SMD's

something based on a CM6206 might work also but the quality of the dac is going to be a lot less than my current internal x-fi (which I got because had to give up a relatively nice on board realtek 1220 on my old asrock because it took a shit and had to get a msi on short notice)

[royal forge]

God damn

They actually went for it

Nvidia ya greedy sonofabitch

[hard drift]

he needs a new leather jacket

[paper tusk]

the "hope you like your $400 flavor of a $250 card" or the "lol halo product nobody can buy - profits go burrr"?

[hard drift]

that's normal even outside of this market though

250msrp and there's 400 dollar versions 🤷‍♂️

it's also a 50 class card so it's up to aibs to make a cheap/msrp version

[paper tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNoOIQICmU

[dull garnet]

So upset that they're gonna send me three 3090 Ti

😔

[hard drift]

lol, i mean it's still a shit product you're talking the 3080ti vs the 3090 is about the same so the 3090ti vs the 3090 will be about the same as well all for a huge price increase

[paper tusk]

taking bets now the msrp is "only" $1800 (but really has a street price of $3000)

[hard drift]

street price of 3090 is already 3k

[potent arrow]

Doesn't matter what msrp is when it's either gonna release 2 into retail and directly sell to miners

[uncut scaffold]

3K for a GPU

Everyday we stray further and further from the Mother Crystal

[twin kindle]

https://twitter.com/doctorow/status/1478479483585933312

Cory Doctorow (@doctorow)

This is fucking wild. Norton "Antivirus" now sneakily installs cryptomining software on your computer, and then SKIMS A COMMISSION.

https://t.co/6s2otyCd78

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Why is this legal...

[hard drift]

it's probably in the terms of service somewhere that most people refuse to read

[modest moss]

it is turned off by default at least

[hard drift]

the biggest malware was the antivirus we installed along the way

[hard drift]

can i just say this new ihs design is going to be awful thermal paste/liquid metal will be a pain in the ass to clean

[dreamy chasm]

Depends on if the sides are sealed off

Liquid metal I can see being awful though

[hard drift]

that's how it is atleast as of now

that is even what she was holding in her hand

[blazing summit]

is that not just a prototype? or is that how 7000 series will be?

[paper tusk]

looks like would have to put an epoxy or something else to conformal coat the exposed parts, then silicone to seal the cut out parts of the IHS

[dreamy chasm]

Inb4 vaseline

[blazing summit]

if the amd cpu does end up looking like that i'll probs go intel purely just so i know i'm not going to short/brick my cpu or just for pure cleanliness when i'm repasting and stuff

[dreamy chasm]

Conventional paste is non conductive

ur fine

[blazing summit]

even so it doesnt look very clean

[dreamy chasm]

Shrug

[blazing summit]

thats just my ocd

[dreamy chasm]

Would take testing to see

[blazing summit]

like the current ryzen heatspreaders fine so i'm just curious if this is temporarily like that for the reveal

[languid sequoia]

just put some toothpaste on it

[hard drift]

As far as we know it’s real since it would be nearing/at mass production already

It’s coming this year

[blazing summit]

also isnt the 5800x3D coming some time this month?

or spring?

[hard drift]

yeah

[blazing summit]

just answered my own question, something i'm hopefully getting though

[hard drift]

i might hold off because we know for a fact they can do the 5900x3d as that's what they originally showed off when they first announced 3d

[dull garnet]

Good, liquid metal is a meme

[blazing summit]

oh so its not a one time thing? they're doing it for others in the ryzen lineup

[hard drift]

well not 100% but they showed it off with the 5900x a while back

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-demonstrates-ryzen-9-5900x-prototype-with-3d-v-cache-stack-chiplet-design this was back in jun

of course they could've scrapped plans for anything higher so i plan to wait and see

[blazing summit]

seeing the growth of cpu's with these 2 companies makes me excited to whats going to come next

[sinful valve]

If I’m looking to spend 1500, what’s a good comp setup look like these days

[dreamy chasm]

Not that great, if buying new

[modest moss]

you don't get much for 1500 USD these days

this sort of thing

https://www.newegg.com/asus-g10dk-nb766/p/N82E16883221701

that's not necessarily a suggested purchase, more an example of what 1500 gets

[dreamy chasm]

Funny how much better that is than buying all the parts new seperately, lmao

Then again, they do cut costs on these

[modest moss]

yeah, like it's only a 500w bronze psu

fine if you don't OC, but it's not amazing

[dreamy chasm]

6600xts over 3060s seem like legitimately better value in the new market at this point

Assuming you're not willing to go for prebuilts

They do have amd drivers but, I don't think you can complain in this type of market

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f4sYPV

[modest moss]

still wouldn't recommend an amd gpu for someone who plays xiv

[dreamy chasm]

What kind of issues pop up?

[modest moss]

directx mostly

not as often on the 6000 ones, but eh wouldn't risk it myself

Hank will take great pleasure in telling you lol

[hard drift]

And i with great displeasure can confirm it 😔

[dreamy chasm]

Unfortunate

[hard drift]

But it has gotten better over the years

[dreamy chasm]

I guess they're paying 300 bucks more for a 3060

[hard drift]

A lot better than 2 years ago

But still not great lol

[potent arrow]

You get a directx error and you get a directx error

[hard drift]

😔

[potent arrow]

Buy Intel gpu™

[hard drift]

That’s even worse lmfao

[potent arrow]

Not with that attitude

[hard drift]

I’d use my 5700xt again before intel gpu/drivers

[modest moss]

I'd buy a PS5 tbh

[potent arrow]

One day I'll be old

And use a console

Because I can't be assed to fuck with a computer

[modest moss]

as if you'll live to be old, you fucking walking hazard

[hard drift]

Oh that’s sarah lmao

I thought it was a new person

Phone discord not updating old message names smh

[jaunty light]

"Licking party clown in germany, a shark that gets licked for love, canned tomatoes under the stars and Jesus, gorilla tamale is held up by tamale Jesus Gorilla who blows a kiss to a gorilla who loves but is quiet, then dies, then blows a kiss to a shark who laughs and turns into a clown, a monkey says nothing while Jesus is tight lipped"

Alright did I miss anything with the new name

[deep sapphire]

[deep sapphire]

Can’t you buy a tech product that works?

Smh

[deep sapphire]

What the fuck is that name

This is dumber than Wii U and New 3DS

[hard drift]

It’s literally discord lol

[deep sapphire]

[potent arrow]

I would argue but I blew up a microwave with a bottle of windshield fluid today lol

[modest moss]

wtf

[potent arrow]

Don't try to microwave it

Especially if the lid is stuck shut lol

[modest moss]

no fucking shit

why would you microwave chemicals

[potent arrow]

Was wondering if I could use it to defrost the windshield

[modest moss]

just boil the kettle ffs

[potent arrow]

Water freezes

Windshield fluid does not

[modest moss]

you defrost it, then spray it

not rocket science

[potent arrow]

No no there was ice on the windshield

Was thinking hot windshield fluid

Would melt the ice

And not refreeze

Saving time to scrape it all off

[modest moss]

...

[potent arrow]

It's not crazy

It's a sound theory I swear

[latent grotto]

...

[late basalt]

And then the microwave exploded

[deep sapphire]

Never pour hot water on frozen glass

You will shatter your glass

Just buy some 91 percent rubbing alcohol and mix it 60/40 with warm water and you can add a little bit of dawn dish soap so it won’t drip off as easily

Works great

Dawn does everything

It’s cause they have a duck on the front label

[sly elk]

-ponders those days when the defrost blasts hot air at the cold windshield-

[deep sapphire]

Lmao that’s different the heat gradually spreads, pouring hot water on frozen glass is radically changing the temperature causing the glass to expand rapidly and boom

It’s like if you take a glass out of the dish washer right after it finished and put really cold water in it, it’ll crack if it’s a cheap glass

[gusty stump]

Not sure if anyone has had any luck with figuring out the dx11 crashes for ff14? Or some sort of solution other than going to dx9?

[sly elk]

yea agreed

[blazing summit]

i dont even know, its a weird name especially for a cpu

[jaunty light]

Whenever I have a frozen windshield I just break it and get a new one

[modest moss]

UK windscreens must be built different

[quick inlet]

roll back your graphics driver

and quit installing them so quickly

[gusty stump]

last update was 1/12/21

haven't updated since

[quick inlet]

hmm

try some stuff here i guess https://gamertweak.com/ff14-directx-11-crash-fix/

[gusty stump]

I read that one earlier and i've tried all of those steps

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/gc0iti/comment/fsxs09c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

I've done all the steps here

[odd sand]

I've used hot water on ice on my windshield and never cracked it. Guess I never thought about the heat differential might crack it.

[quick inlet]

are you getting crash to desktop or not able to launch at all?

[modest moss]

lol I remember this one

[quick inlet]

use revo uninstaller on your graphics driver then go into device manager and uninstall it from there also but with the "delete driver" flag checked and then reboot your computer

[untold onyx]

Laminated glass (which is what's used for windshields) is more tolerant to thermal shock, but if it happens there's no repairing it like a stone chip. The glass will need to be replaced.

[gusty stump]

crash to desktop

very inconsistent cant really replicate it

sometimes several a day sometimes none

[potent arrow]

Not with that attitude

I'm pretty sure my windshield has a chip/crack in it from when I hit it with a steel sheet

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/fucking-awesome-gif-23101003

[potent arrow]

I'll replace it when I'm not working

Go to the yard and rip one off some car lol

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/safety-comes-first-adam-driver-saturday-night-live-safety-first-caution-gif-16202276

[potent arrow]

It's safe???

Not like I'm gonna guillotine myself with it or something

[latent grotto]

How'd you hit it with a steel plate

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-sure-huh-what-excuse-me-gif-10625116

Sarah do you feel bullied by us?

Or loved?

[quick inlet]

have you checked event viewer after a crash?

should give some indication what caused the issue. i'd really like to help but i dont have much to go on

[modest moss]

they don't really want help, they want to complain, they've been in this channel before with a shitty entitled attitude

hell, they haven't even tried the latest game ready nvidia driver if the last update was 1/12 last year, there's a 20/12 version

they could probably even try the studio release from yesterday too

[gusty stump]

What?

I'm not complaining I'm literally just trying to find a solution

and yes i checked it but there wasn't really anything there

[modest moss]

🤷

[quick inlet]

search event viewer in your start menu should pull up a ton of logs

look for recent ones in the application log related to ffxiv or dx11 after a crash and it could give you an indication of what caused the problem

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30135

often the event viewer will lead to this might be worth a try

[potent arrow]

Why not both

[potent arrow]

I'm an idiot with straps and a forklift

[modest moss]

probably accurate <3

[potent arrow]

Day three and my office is already full of empty coffee mugs .-.

[jaunty light]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-evangelion-components

[dull garnet]

uh oh

is this how Gundam fans felt

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-excitement-yay-gif-14315959

[hard drift]

idk why but that reminds me of noisy boy from real steel

[deep sapphire]

CERTIFIED FORKLIFT PROFESSIONAL

[sly elk]

that is pretty

[modern elbow]

what a disappointment real steel 2 never came out

[hard drift]

[dull garnet]

wtf is real steel

[hard drift]

the robot boxing movie

[modern elbow]

the best movie of all time

[dull garnet]

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/Razer/status/1478818694717390856

R Λ Z Ξ R (@Razer)

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bruh

[hard drift]

oh yeah that thing....

they made a pro???

[sharp star]

yes

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/press-release/xmg-announces-neo-15-laptop-with-oasis-external-liquid-cooling-solution about time something like this exists 👀

[modest moss]

it's fucking stupid

[hard drift]

which one

[modest moss]

yes

[hard drift]

😭

[jaunty light]

But have you taken ladder training?

[deep sapphire]

What is this body harness you speak of

[jaunty light]

I'll harness your body

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/people-do-sex-on-it-not-what-thats-for-sex-swing-explaining-lina-renna-gif-14340695

[jaunty light]

[modest moss]

see?

[potent arrow]

Heights training? Yes

I have a forklift liscene too

[jaunty light]

Liscene

Nice

[potent arrow]

Liscence?

Idk how to spell

[modest moss]

who did you steal it from?

[potent arrow]

English is not my forte lol

[potent arrow]

My dad probably

[modest moss]

license btw

[jaunty light]

I've heard you are somewhat an expert of deadly chemicals and spontaneous combustion

[potent arrow]

I ain't no expert

Just fuckin dumb

[jaunty light]

[sharp star]

https://www.razer.com/concepts/razer-project-sophia

[jaunty light]

Excellent! slaps a mousepad down that covers the wholeass desktop

[hard drift]

lets just hope the display is not as shit as the monitor they released if it ever comes out

[potent arrow]

Spills soda

[modest moss]

you mean spills acid or mercury

[potent arrow]

Who tf keeps acid or mercury on their desk smh

[sharp star]

spill gallium

[sly elk]

hmm

oh that desk is disgusting haha

anyway, yea themed motherboards... mmm

I still look at the gundam stuff on ebay and I haven't even watched the real gundam anime series

I just like them from other animes that happen to have gundams haha

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/isabelle-drummond-verao90-manuela-renata-andrade-cute-pretty-gif-17780390

[jaunty light]

My 3090 is at bloomington

Goodbye gpu

https://tenor.com/view/pour-one-out-so-long-bye-bye-gif-19569425

[dull garnet]

anyone else super cheap out on their desk

[jaunty light]

Nope

I want new tops for mine but it's like $999 each for hardwood!

579 for acacia, but a little too busy for my taste. 899 for walnut...

[dull garnet]

ahaha

mine was like

£30

[jaunty light]

I have an electric one but got cheap tops for it

[sly elk]

hehe

I hadn't considered that. I liked the bamboo option fully has

my glass top was 550, cheaper than all 3 of those wood options

[jaunty light]

Mine is rubberwood, which was like 299? For a 60x30

[sly elk]

oooo

now i want a rubber tree

[jaunty light]

But its pretty thin and has poor vibration isolation

I type like an ogre and my monitors very slightly wobble

[sly elk]

now I'm paying attention to this

-types away to check if his monitors shake-

nope

do you have your monitors on an arm?

[jaunty light]

Yup

[sly elk]

oh, that explains it

what kinda arm?

I'm honestly not sure which type is worse for wobbling

plus I've never used a good arm like the ergotron ones

we have a few brands at work that I've seen and they all wobble

but all the monitor arms in the office have the same general design as an ergotron arm, just cheaper

it wouldn't surprise me if your monitor arm is just magnifying the vibrations into wobble

and the only real solution to that would be to wall mount the monitor arms

and ergotron does make a sliding rail wall mount thing, but it looks kinda gross and I wouldn't be surprised if someone forgot to move their monitors before moving their desk XD

[jaunty light]

Ergotron is one, then a cheap one that i use for stack

[sly elk]

I wonder if changing the direction of the clamp/arm helps

like maybe if you had a T shape frame and the table was shaking back/forth as you typed, having the monitor arm in the back and the monitor cantilevered forward might shake more than if the monitor arm was clamped to the side and the monitor was cantilevered from the side

i doubt it though

[potent arrow]

I need to find a good monitor arm ngl

tempted to grab this lol

spray paint it pink or something

[high harness]

A good attempt that you should try is, if you're using a monitor mount that uses a C-clamp style or grommet stamp, is to use a piece of wood on the underside of the table to help distribute the weight and clamp force.

Also using thick enough paddings (both on top of and below where it clamps) help dampen vibrations a bit, and protects your desk from excessive force from the clamps/load from the weight of your monitors.

Check whether your monitor mount ends up having a bit of play after you install/clamp it. If you feel like you can sway it even a tiny bit, figure out where it's swaying at. Some desks (especially Ikea LINNMON tops) are relatively hollow, so they're not the greatest for clamps or centralized weights. This is the case for one of my desks, and the solution that solved the excessive pressure problem as well as the vibration problem (similar to yours) was to add wood above and below where I clamped it. The woods are about 4 x 8 x .5 inch birch wood. You can use any hardwood and dimension you can depending on what limits you may have with your desk.

[umbral moss]

using hardwood seems like a very expensive solution to a cheap desk problem

especially since shitty softwood like pine or poplar will make a perfectly fine sacrifice pad

no sense burning money on like, red oak or maple when the weak link is your shitty ass LDF/melamine desk sandwich anyway

[high harness]

My bad I didn't mean to say hardwood, I mean to say any wood that's hard enough, so not particle board and cheap plywood

[umbral moss]

ye

baltic birch isn't the worst for sacrifice pads either

since it's pretty reinforced compared to cheaper plywood

[sly elk]

there are metal clamp plates you can buy, too

lol mdf desktops are fun

they gave me a brand new ikea one at my internship and I proceeded to leave a nice big gash in the surface when I installed my monitor mount thingy

https://www.amazon.com/WALI-Reinforcement-Compatible-Installation-CGRP-B/dp/B093F95VTC/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=clamp+plate+mount&qid=1641431212&sprefix=clamp+plate+m%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-5

something like that, and there's a whole lot of these on amazon

(I have an irrational fear of clamping a monitor arm to a glass desk. I pondered doing it with one of those and still thought: NOPE

[jaunty light]

I would as well

Seems dangerous to have that much force applied to any glass

[umbral moss]

tempered glass is tough until it isn't

[untold onyx]

yeah, tempered glass can take a lot of stress. When it hits it's limit though it is just gone.

See, this is the one I have. Works really well too.

https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX00113271

[sly elk]

i mean

edge clamps are how a whole lot of glass fixtures are mounted though (shelves and stuff)

definitely wouldn't do it on an office store desk though

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/rems-glass-hammer-break-break-glass-gif-24096209

[sly elk]

yea don't drop a sledge hammer on it

making me think i should've gone with laminated glass 😛

in case one of you comes to visit me and throws a sledgehammer at my desk 😛

[jaunty light]

[umbral moss]

laminated glass will just break into sticky chunks instead of spiky chunks

[deep sapphire]

Laminated glass usually doesn’t break in pieces though unless you use a lot of force

[glossy timber]

honestly if you're not using a lot of force whats the point

loser mindset

[sly elk]

what about

realizing it's a glass table and just.. being nice to it...

I don't make a habit of leaving spark plugs on my table, or ceramic objects with sharp edges so...

[umbral moss]

weight is what gets you

monitors don't seem heavy until your glass is like "ok that's enough shear stress for me, thanks" shatters

[potent arrow]

God

Why is my network so bad rn

there is visible lag on discord and ffxiv

[dreamy chasm]

How's your download speed

[potent arrow]

its fine

which is confusing

I shouldnt be seeing discord struggle to send a message

[modest moss]

skill issue

[potent arrow]

aight fine

[odd sand]

I think there's been some routing issues with the internet today. Reddit was giving me 500 and 504 errors, for example.

And a few other things were lagging

[umbral moss]

maybe aws went down again

[dreamy chasm]

Try a VPN

[jaunty light]

https://tenor.com/view/ez-noob-skill-issue-simply-a-difference-in-skill-gif-20780203

[sly elk]

same here!!

i like how it looks with white plastidip

iirc plastidip has a kinda sticky texture to it though

[umbral moss]

it does

I used white plastidip to coat the mounts for my pumps so they wouldn't buzz with vibration

the real problem with white cases is that they show dust mad fast and end up turning beige from exposure

all the plastic on my white case aged into this kind of off-white

[dreamy chasm]

I wonder why you can't just seal that with a clear coat of some kind to prevent that

[umbral moss]

for dust, maybe

but the plastic degrading is a function of UV and air exposure, I suppose a polyurethane coating might protect you a little but PU coatings are also UV sensitive and yellow over time

[sly elk]

yuck

that's why I originally avoided white/beige computer hardware

[vestal crane]

How often is your computer in direct sunlight?

[sly elk]

luckily for me, all of the white parts of my keyboard are easily replaceable

[dreamy chasm]

I like beige stuff, but I'm also a noctua simp

[sly elk]

oh even if you don't, sometimes they'll yellow up like a mofo

my brother had an imac g4

sadly was stolen when it was a few years old, but he still had the original keyboard in a box in the closet

with some clothes and stuff

[dreamy chasm]

[sly elk]

the keyboard was practically new, but when i pulled it out of the box one day it was yellow

disgusting yellow

[dreamy chasm]

Those can be restored

[vestal crane]

Intentional beige looks way better than white thats yellowed to beige

[dreamy chasm]

For sure

[sly elk]

it was like this but much worse

nah beige looks nasty when it turns yellow

[sly walrus]

i remember that keyboard

[sly elk]

haha here

[umbral moss]

UV is part of the emission spectrum for LED and CFL bulbs

[sly elk]

when it gets bad it turns orange

[umbral moss]

the "warm white" is just a daylight bulb with an orange filter painted on it

[sly elk]

also I had the green version of that monitor

thing gave me nightmares

[vestal crane]

Fair

[sly elk]

lmao this computer was my first

exactly like that one

[umbral moss]

ah man, I had a fuckin tandy back in 93

[sly elk]

yea gbut this was in like 96 or 97

[umbral moss]

state of the baller art with 4MB of ram

👌

[sly elk]

but I'll give you this

it had a working hard drive

32mb

[dreamy chasm]

You can bathe plastic in hydrogen peroxide and clean the yellowing off, apparently

[sly elk]

and I really really wanted a computer

and it was an old one someone gave my dad and he gave me and I was like

YESSS FINALLY!

when I was a kid I wanted a computer so bad I made one out of cardboard 😄

[dreamy chasm]

That's cute

I was a simple kid and just wanted to play flash games

[sly elk]

my brother and my dad took college classes on computer stuff and I got into all their books

then picked up more books from a library sale that were ancient haha

[umbral moss]

now you can get the boxes for the parts for the price of what used to be inside them

[sly elk]

there was one gem I wonder if I still have laying around in the garage

[umbral moss]

👌

[sly elk]

that covered "micro computers"

and "mini computers" - the ones that were the size of a desk lol

[dreamy chasm]

Destined to be a computer nerd from birth

Not that it's a bad thing

[sly elk]

I mean

that complete set is $400 + 164 shipping

on ebay? That's kinda expensive for an 8088 I think

but overall it's not bad. those things cost like $2-3k new

sadly it looks like the HDD might be dead in that one, though

[dreamy chasm]

Oof

[sly elk]

but outside of that, ti looks really nice

I think you can do better though

[dreamy chasm]

Can't wait for the day that current gpus are considered vintage

[sly elk]

ugh

but this make sme hungry for some vintage computer hardware

[dreamy chasm]

[sly elk]

that said

i'd rather not fuck with mono monitors ever again

[dreamy chasm]

I wonder how far you can get by refurbishing old vintage hardware from dumps and garage sales

[sly elk]

those flickering green on black screens will fuck you up good

you sit there for an hour

get up, and everything's red

[dreamy chasm]

Oh?

Ah

I can imagine

[sly elk]

and that was when I was a kid lmao

[dreamy chasm]

It'd probably fuck me up if I had to use those

[sly elk]

yea everyone looks at CRTs now through pleasant romanticized memories

[dreamy chasm]

My eyes are already fucked as it is

crts are great until you have to use them for extended periods

[sly elk]

they're cool but a massive pain in the butt

the tech is really cool though

[dreamy chasm]

For sure

[umbral moss]

I don't miss the 105lb tube, but I do miss the instantaneous pixel activation and perfect black levels

[sly elk]

but you have to hvae a big desk and they're heavy and they make noise

and they're very delicate

[dreamy chasm]

high refresh displays these days aren't bad nor expensive either way

[sly elk]

I mean it's funny

my brother, when being a bit clumsy adjusting things on my table

knocked a 17" monitor off

[umbral moss]

the electron emitters in CRTs would need like 15x the activation energy if they weren't in a vacuum

[sly elk]

and at the time we were redoing the carpet in the house so the floor was bare plywood

it chipped a tiny piece of glass off the screen

but the screen worked perfectly fine another 5 years haha

[umbral moss]

poof

[sly elk]

what finally killed it was the vga cable wore out

like no amount of tape or holding it at weird angles would get a sync-able signal

i'm glad we don't have permanently attached video cables anymore.

also some monitors would just act funky sometimes

like if you played a game it'd drop to 640x480 or whatever and your monitor's geometry would change

or some modes would make it buzz more

[dreamy chasm]

The vga port probably can still be fixed

[sly elk]

and some pictures would just make the stupid screen geometry wonky

[dreamy chasm]

Would take some soldering though

[sly elk]

it's long gone

I don't have a single crt anymore

[dreamy chasm]

Understandable

[sly elk]

when we moved out of the house I grew up in, we got rid of the last 2 i had

[dreamy chasm]

I might buy one for shits and giggles if I find a good deal on one

Then again, they're so heavy that I'd have to leave it behind if I have to relocate

[sly elk]

one that someone gave me, and it looked awesome, but I never got to use it because it needed some weird cables that I could never find

and another was a miserable shitty 14"

[umbral moss]

CRTs are largely locked up in the smash brothers grognard arena last I heard

[sly elk]

that I always hated

[umbral moss]

people spending top dollar on shitty 15" hello kitty TVs because they're the only CRTs left that can play smash in The True Way

[sly elk]

the other thing you have to watch out for, is the higher end monitors had a habit of being less reliable

[dreamy chasm]

Don't people just use wiis with gc emu for smash tournaments now

[sly elk]

like the 21" sonys that everyoen drools over

i'm not saying don't buy one

[umbral moss]

something something CRTs have an intrinsic advantage because of frame timing

[sly elk]

also

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah, I'd have to do my research

[sly elk]

going off memory

[dreamy chasm]

Ahh.

[sly elk]

there was one thing CRTs didn't do particularly well

and people will probably disagree with me on this

if you have a black square next to a white square

it will not be a perfect line between the two

at that, an OLED screen would be much better

[umbral moss]

that's not really something to disagree with, that's how the electron guns "paint" the image

[sly elk]

and pure black >>

unless you had a very high end CRT most of them had a kinda dark grey screen

[umbral moss]

dunno bout that one chief, OLED is still kind of in this weird "it's good, I guess, but I'm not gonna get a boner over it" space

too expensive and too unreliable

[sly elk]

ierno

OLEDs look amazing in the store >>

but a good trinitron or whatever looks amazing too

[umbral moss]

yeah, and then they experience half-life in about 1500 hours

[sly elk]

when you look at some pictures on them

it's like the LCDs are missing that extra oomph

however, a nice LCD with a perfect glossy finish will get awful close

[umbral moss]

LCDs are going to necessarily be less bright because of the combination of backlight requirements and the fact you have two polarizers to go through

[sly elk]

i wouldn't be surprised if a pro display xdr made pictures look better >>>

I really cannot complain about brightness

plus crt brightness only goes so far

[umbral moss]

OLEDs are also constrained by brightness

[sly elk]

iirc they sucked in direct sunlight

still, fun experience

[umbral moss]

CRTs are limited for the same reason as OLED, the phosphorescent component has a maximum absorption/re-emission capacity

once you blast the pixel element and it activates, there's nothing else you can do to make it brighter

[sly elk]

hehe

[umbral moss]

plasma was dimmer than LCD for the same reason

[sly elk]

the first time I used a plasma I was err surprised

felt more like a crt

[umbral moss]

plasma is basically the same concept as OLED

[dreamy chasm]

I have lcd monitors, they work, I'm happy

[umbral moss]

each pixel is a tiny mercury vapor lamp and the UV emission activates a wavelength-specific phosphor

[dreamy chasm]

Man, I know someone with a plasma that had to replace it after a few months

[umbral moss]

that's why plasma displays are mad heavy and super fragile

and also never made the jump to 4k, making so many tiny ass lamps in a 43" diagonal would be miserable

[dreamy chasm]

Needing to babysit it to prevent burn in makes it terrible in my eyes

[umbral moss]

any display that's self-illuminating will have burn-in

the fluorescent component will degrade when it's consistently activated

CRT, plasma, OLED all have it

CRT manufacturers just got very good at shuffling pixels to avoid wear on the phosphors

[dreamy chasm]

Aye

I'm sticking to lcds

Low maintenance that works well enough is what I tend to go for

[umbral moss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

we'll see how effective the new QD-OLED designs are

they're brighter and better tuned for the three fundamental wavelengths of the rec.2020 chart

[odd sand]

Except CRTs in arcade cabinets

[umbral moss]

I mean, that's because those cabinets are from 1995 lmao

when was the last time they had a new CRT cabinet

[sly elk]

it is sad when people buy crt cabinets and take the crt out

[dreamy chasm]

We had some old games in our local arcade, crts were fine but controls broke way before then i think

[umbral moss]

yeah, I broke an arcade cabinet slapping the buttons too hard 😔

[dreamy chasm]

Would be a simple fix if they all used easily serviceable stuff but, I'm pretty sure one of the shooter cabinets had one of the guns broken in half

[sly elk]

LOL

[dreamy chasm]

I don't think gorilla glue and duct tape is doing shit

[sly elk]

the buttons are probably fixable

[dreamy chasm]

For sure

[sly elk]

I dunno anything about the arcade guns

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[sly elk]

arcade cabinets tend to be modded and retrofit

[dreamy chasm]

You can jerry rig nonstandard buttons a lot of the time

Idk much about sticks though

[sly elk]

yea but after long enough they probably just replace the panel and all the hardware lol

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[sly elk]

lots of 20 year old machines are probably half new parts XD

or half replaced

and people do weird things

like turn a neo geo cabinet into something drastically different

[dreamy chasm]

Our racing cabinets still haven't been fixed

So you know who hasn't been here yet if they use the seats with the broken steering wheels

[dull garnet]

arcade buttons are like $3

[sly elk]

racing cabinets are kinda disappointing after driving real cars xD

but still kinda fun

just wish they didn't have hard plastic seats

[dull garnet]

[dreamy chasm]

Cloth seats are a health disaster waiting to happen

On the topic of racing seats

[sly elk]

they have to use that upholstery that golf carts use

[dreamy chasm]

How did gamer racing chairs ever become mainstream

[umbral moss]

they look cool and streamers buy gaudy shit

[dreamy chasm]

Is it bc it looks cool

[umbral moss]

so nerds are like "me too"

[dreamy chasm]

Oh

Well

Not surprised

I see people paying 200 extra bucks for a keyboard with shit switches

When you can get better for less

Just bc they have rgb and a name brand slapped to it

[umbral moss]

I've gotten my money's worth out of my G710

[dreamy chasm]

Same with my old 6gv2

[umbral moss]

I wish the keys were quieter though

[dreamy chasm]

Got it on sale, its survived a fall down 2 seperate staircases

[umbral moss]

they're browns so it has a serious CLACK CLACK CLACK while I'm typing

[sly elk]

or paying $500 to build a stupid board

because LUBED HOLY PANDA LIMITED EDITION DROP FROM JAPAN

ffs

[dreamy chasm]

Is it all the keys or just the long ones

[umbral moss]

😌

all keys

[dreamy chasm]

tbf, I've seen stupider shit bought

[umbral moss]

the keyboard is a step below blues in noise because they're tactile and not clicky

[dreamy chasm]

Here's where you make a car repair joke, but hank isn't here

[umbral moss]

carbon fiber hoods on 30 year old beater boxes

👌

[dreamy chasm]

Tactiles can be silent tbh

It's just

The bottom out that's loud

[umbral moss]

that's inevitable because I type like the keys owe me money

[dreamy chasm]

Same

That's why I have mx blacks

I'm going lighter on my next board though

[umbral moss]

there's no advantage to these ultra lightweight, short throw springs with how I type

I just pound the shit out of everything

[dreamy chasm]

Mx blacks with green springs sound perfect for you

That, or one of those vintage buckling boards

[umbral moss]

I just want it to be quiet 😔

[dreamy chasm]

Fair

[dull garnet]

membrane

[dreamy chasm]

Mx silent blacks

[umbral moss]

you can hear the keyboard over voice calls

[dreamy chasm]

Topre is expensive but that shits quiet

O rings are an alternative, but they feel awful on bottom out

They are cheap

Though

[umbral moss]

someone bought akkos and they said they liked it

[dreamy chasm]

Oh yeah, I have an akko board on the way myself

Those sakura pink switches

I copped them because the board was 60 bucks on sale

Seems like a good enough deal

[umbral moss]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/akko-cs-silver-switch-45pcs/

🤔

short throw is short

[dreamy chasm]

I'm turning off the rgb when I get it though

[umbral moss]

activation and reset at 1mm travel

[dreamy chasm]

Look at the other switches

Silvers are the short throw ones iirc

[umbral moss]

ye

those are new though, they weren't on the site the last time I looked

[dreamy chasm]

Wouldn't be surprised

There's a pretty big market for short throws these days

Mostly just gamers

I mainly just want linears that don't feel like ass

[sly elk]

-shrug-

who am I to talk. i have an expensive keyboard. but split mechanicals can get expensive xD

my hot take

[dreamy chasm]

Oh, I used to have a custom one in the works

Like, actual custom

[sly elk]

is that the major brand office chairs are a rip off

[dreamy chasm]

Spent a month designing a pcb and I 3d printed the chassis

[sly elk]

like people keep talking shit about spending $400 on a gaming chair or whatever

but paying $1800 for a logitech herman miller is absolutely insane

[dreamy chasm]

How much are the non logi ones

[sly elk]

same price, maybe a few bucks less if you buy direct from HM. But they can be bought for less

afaik you still can't get discounts on the logitech version

[dreamy chasm]

Expensive chairs with good features are the one thing I'd splurge on if I could

[sly elk]

smnart furniture for example has them for 1483

[dreamy chasm]

I'd rather pay up front than have to deal with expensive back issues

[sly elk]

which is about what I paid for mine with tax when they were 15% off

but even that was too much

[dreamy chasm]

Shrug

My only issue with gaming chairs is that they're shit for your back

[sly elk]

if you haggle with the right dealer they can go for like $1000-1200

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[sly elk]

ierno, some are. some aren't.

[dreamy chasm]

I'd pay that much if I had the ability to

My backs important to me

[sly elk]

the $100 generic chinese ones are. the $500 ones tend to have some semblence of back support

[dreamy chasm]

I've seen 500 dollar ones with a neck pillow for a lumbar support feature

Actual scams lol

[sly elk]

still, an ok chair and a sit/stand desk is probably a better use of money

and better exercise discipline for better posture discipline

of course, you can still get the $1800 chair and do all that

[dreamy chasm]

It's moreso just for comfort

Longterm

I'd also buy a sit and stand table if I could

It's off the table after I've just spent for a rig a few months prior though

[sly elk]

yea there's a point where people just really splurge

[dreamy chasm]

Sorry, shit pun

[sly elk]

i mean $1800 chairs are nothing in the face of ergotron monitor arms, a $1000 standing desk, a $300 standing desk balance board hahaha

when people start going nuts 😄

[dreamy chasm]

Yuuup

[sly elk]

i won't lie

there's a balance board that I love the design of

[dreamy chasm]

Oh?

[sly elk]

but i think it's a ripoff

[dreamy chasm]

Ah

[sly elk]

trying to find it

i think the metal pattern is cool af

and the blue wood haha

[dreamy chasm]

How much, though

[sly elk]

250 but it looks like they don't make the blue one anymore

[dreamy chasm]

I'm the type to pay less for equally functional stuff

Ah

[sly elk]

https://fluidstance.com/collections/balance-boards

they sell a plastic one for 189

[modern iris]

Game has been stuttering during fast paced boss sequences so

[dreamy chasm]

I wonder if those upmats are fine

[modern iris]

Is it because I have not enough RAM ?

[dreamy chasm]

Do you experience less issues if you have all other ram intensive applications closed?

[modern iris]

This is a fairly new computer

[dreamy chasm]

Oh, huh

Specs?

I'm running 16 gigs in my system and have had no issues thus far

[modern iris]

I have a lot of chrome windows open

[dreamy chasm]

Try closing those for now, lol

[dull garnet]

check your task manager

[dreamy chasm]

^

[modern iris]

Task manager froze

[dull garnet]

lol

that's usually a sign of not enough ram

[sly elk]

-gets out a hair dryer and points it at task manager-

[paper tusk]

or something else is tying resources like storage being a derp

resource monitor might be a little more useful

[sly elk]

oooooo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYSh0zJKWDU

i waaaant it

[odd sand]

A CPU to match that keyboard: https://wccftech.com/amds-monstrous-epyc-genoa-cpu-for-sp5-lga-6096-socket-pictured-up-to-96-zen-4-cores-400w-tdp/

[dull garnet]

Fat beech

[paper tusk]

does it come with a quarter inch torque wrench for the cooler mount instead of the pre set twist one TR has?

[dreamy chasm]

400w 96

Jesus

Man, I just remembered that the 9590 pulled about this much peak load

[inland mauve]

is that a CPU for datacentres

[lost python]

Ye

[wide hill]

datacentres? you mean my personal gaming rig

[lost python]

Like 10 personal gaming rigs

[potent arrow]

Imma use it for instant civ turns

[inland mauve]

you're going to need a quantum computer for that

[warm mesa]

Ok dear lord, this was nerve wracking but i managed to rebuild my efi partition and assign my windows installation as boot target. Apparently that was the problem

Fuck uefi

Return to monke mbr pls

[eager sandal]

ya guys think this can run ffxiv with a vega 8 igpu

[lost python]

Barely

[eager sandal]

ah, forgot to mention

also with 1 stick of 4gb ram

ddr4

i'll have to make do with this in the meantime 😔

[potent arrow]

Lol that happened to me a few months ago and me and Hank couldn't figure it out so I just straight nuked my pc

[modest moss]

@deep sapphire you get tested yet?

[warm mesa]

i have a guide in case anything happens again

[dull garnet]

Lol rip

Good luck

[potent arrow]

Most days I cannot be assed to deal with that kinda issue xD

[eager sandal]

thanks

[potent arrow]

Can windows 10 even properly run on 4gigs?

[eager sandal]

yeah it can

[potent arrow]

Seems like if you open a browser or Spotify it'll just implode

I guess if you have a massive pagefile it'll work

[eager sandal]

its fine for the most part

just not game performance

[dull garnet]

With a clean install and light usage sure

I've used 10 with 1GB

[modest moss]

just play on low settings and it'll probably just suck but be ok

[potent arrow]

You need jesus

[eager sandal]

goodbye shaders

[dreamy chasm]

This has vega 3 last I checked

Not great, but i've seen the game run on worse

[eager sandal]

least my 3 month sub isnt wasted then

[dreamy chasm]

You probably will have to framecap at 30 with a low res and lowest settings

[dreamy chasm]

What happened to your old rig?

[eager sandal]

nothing really, my brother just has to borrow my laptop for a loooong time because of work

[modest moss]

that sounds like a terrible deal for you lol

shouldn't his job supply equipment?

or uh, buy his own with the money he earns

[eager sandal]

not really a deal in the first place 🤷‍♀️
im not technically doing anything productive anyway so there's no reason for me to keep it aside from playing stuff

[modest moss]

but it's yours?

isn't that enough reason?

[potent arrow]

Lol I just loaned away my own laptop for a year or two ;-; I'm never seeing that again

[eager sandal]

technically not mine either since i didn't buy it

im still a kid

[eager sandal]

f

[modest moss]

I'm outraged on your behalf, would never do that to my kid

[eager sandal]

gotta put up with it till i can make my own money for my dream rig

at least the 2 years i had gaming w/it was pretty fun

ill also enjoy my last days with it before i part with my laptop

[teal fable]

I have my dream rig and it’s a headache 😆

[eager sandal]

i can only imagine if it doesnt work out the way you wanted it to

[potent arrow]

I just kick my pc when it doesn't work

[teal fable]

just the rgb is hard to sync i got most of it done but now i have to crack the case open and rewire the fan rgb to synch

[modest moss]

lolrgb

[teal fable]

its a beast though so much powah

[dreamy chasm]

AMD's going to come out with some cpu's with good graphics chips in the future

Probably not dream rig territory, but they should be able to let you game for not too much of a cost compared to an actual gaming laptop

[eager sandal]

i will never cease my hatred for gaming laptops

[dreamy chasm]

yeahh.

[potent arrow]

Tbf you could.play FFXIV decently on a g series

[dreamy chasm]

thats on desktop though

[potent arrow]

Ohh right

Apologies misread

[dreamy chasm]

Unless, river's able to get a rig together

no worries

I didn't exactly clarify

wild. @potent arrow

the 5600g's cheaper LOL

[potent arrow]

@_@

I have a few still kicking about

[inland mauve]

buying a GPU?

[lost python]

If it's more than 30min you can give up

You won't get one

There is only like 140 cards in total

[dreamy chasm]

ok, i think you can actually build a decent igpu system without having to spend a lot

thank fuck for amd apus

still not exactly cheap, though

[modest moss]

$470 for what?

[modest moss]

that's pretty decent

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

I heavily doubt you can get better unless you go and buy used

[modest moss]

I'd probably push it to a bigger ssd though, go to 500gb and still be under 500

[dreamy chasm]

Aye

Man.

I remember when you used to be able to build a system with a gpu for 500

you're right @modest moss

[potent arrow]

If you look out for apu bundles you can go cheaper too

[modest moss]

should be pretty ok for 1080p gaming if you're ok with not being a quality whore

[dreamy chasm]

aye

i'd be fine with this, specially since you can easily upgrade this down the line

[modest moss]

don't tell Hank I said positive things about AMD though

[potent arrow]

I havnt done any research into alder yet, but is it feasible to get an XE graphic lowend system?

[dreamy chasm]

alright shue, lmao

[potent arrow]

Because last I heard the newer igpu from Intel is decent™

[dreamy chasm]

on current desktop chips? no

its not anywhere near where current ryzen vega is atm either