technology-discussion

[tribal crater]

at least my ram has lifetime warranty iirc

[hard drift]

better than it most likely

not to mention the fact that the gpu is cheaper than the 1080ti by a lot when it released

plus it will have raytracing/tensor cores to use dlss

[modest moss]

1080ti seems to be roughly equivalent to a 3060 though, beating it in places and losing in others

can't see a 3050 being better

[umbral moss]

if you can buy a 3050 it will be better than the 3060

[hard drift]

🤨

[umbral moss]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/4/22865220/sony-a95k-qd-oled-qdoled-4k-tv-announced-features-explainer

[jaunty light]

And murder em?

[hard drift]

buying a queue spot is asking to be scammed lmao

[umbral moss]

I like your approach

[jaunty light]

[umbral moss]

honki misete o miro 👏

LG announced a 42" OLED display with VRR support

why did a big dump of product launches land today?

[hard drift]

CES

[umbral moss]

I thought CES was last week

[hard drift]

it's a few days

it's going until the 7th started yesterday

[umbral moss]

I remember seeing articles that CES was practically canceled because of covid, so I thought it was last week

[hard drift]

nah it's this week

[umbral moss]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

at this point there's no sense trying to avoid it since it's so damn contagious

move your ass to the zurich orbital platform if you want to avoid covid in the year of the affixed god 2022

[hard drift]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/anker-736-gan-charger-100w-ces-2022/ i want one

[umbral moss]

[hard drift]

charge my phone real quick

[umbral moss]

I love those GaN topologies, they're so much more efficient

[sly elk]

I still wanna avoid it!

[umbral moss]

at the rate covid is mutating the next version will probably be contagious enough to catch being outdoors with other people

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sly elk]

Yea my family is the sort I'd really really rather not bring anything home to them

and I'd rather not catch it myself either

[modern iris]

god i spent too long on this

just getting the text to look right

it's still a very crude approximation of where the center is but it's variable-width fonts and it's discord

[sly elk]

but i mean if you're a single <30 who doesn't live with family and doesn't have any health issues

I'm surprised you give a crap

[modest moss]

but hopefully even less potent and we can consider ignoring the fucker

[umbral moss]

there's no evidence that viral mutations follow the rules of plague inc

[modest moss]

maybe some people care about transmitting to others

[sly elk]

i would like to believe that, shue!

[umbral moss]

the next variant could be super contagious and vaccine resistant and super lethal

there's no "power budget" to viral mutation

[modest moss]

possible yes, but we can hope

if we don't have hope we might as well just give up

[sly elk]

edd: that's why I was a little worried that the news is currently jumping the gun on how big a deal this one is?

when someone from south africa came to the conclusion "this doesn't look so bad compared to delta"

that suddenly became the message being said everywhere

[umbral moss]

omicron's severity is largely a function of the types of people it's infecting

[sly elk]

and so did

"well, you're gonna catch it anyway"

although the anti-maskers have been saying that for the past 2 months or so

[umbral moss]

it also only attacks one pathway in the cells it infects, so it shares more in common with less dangerous coronaviruses

the mutations that make it evasive to vaccine immunity also make it more restricted in how it can attack cells

[umbral moss]

that's because the data indicates that you absolutely will catch it, even if you're vaccinated and boosted

you'll just be asymptomatic if you are

the way it propagates in the body promotes contagion because it settles in the upper respiratory system and you produce something like 70x the viral payload with every breath as a result

it's insanely hard to avoid catching it unless you move to mars

the upside is that because it doesn't settle in the lower respiratory system you expel the mucous more effectively and you have less severe outcomes

with a shorter symptomatic period

[deft sphinx]

jesus christ some people REALLY can't stop showing that DAMN gen 12 intel BS down my throught every time I bring the idea of buying an bloody zen3 cpu!!!!! it got to the point that they think their opinion transendes some truth or something!!

[umbral moss]

🤔

I'm looking forward to some benches from those 7000 series chips

yeah, the 3xd looks interesting but I'm not sure why they didn't do it for the zen 4 chips 🤔

will it?

I got the impression the 3xd was its own critter

[hard drift]

we don't know that it will have it but no reason it wouldn't

[deft sphinx]

I got and ancient FX-8320, I wanna get the 5950X at some point but ugh I might get an Mb that can take that CPU later cuz I really need a new PC T^ T

[hard drift]

there's usually an increase in cache anyways so vcache might not be needed for new cpus

[umbral moss]

honestly, I'd suggest toughing it out a little longer unless the tower you have is completely ripperoni

there's some major ~GAINZ~ 💪 to be had in the product refreshes this year

[deft sphinx]

a little longer is an year, cuz I heard the zen4 will laucnh later 2022

[hard drift]

later this year yeah

[umbral moss]

yeah, zen 4 is landing in Q3/4

[hard drift]

although it'll be using ddr5 so go based on that pricing too

[umbral moss]

are they still using AM4 for that

[hard drift]

not to mention it'll be high end chipset first

[umbral moss]

DDR5 should be improved by the end of 2022

AM5 isn't the newest platform?

[hard drift]

intels platforms are usually dead after 1 year anyways 🤷‍♂️

amd has had am4 for years now

[deft sphinx]

well, going with an 5950x won't be that bad, like just cuz gen 12 from intel is out doesn't mean this cpu is shit for the next 3-4 years righ? or I'm going crazy?

[hard drift]

it will be fine especially since you're on am3+

[deft sphinx]

I did for the 12900k and 5950x

[hard drift]

although unless you need it 5900x is better for gaming

it's not cheaper either way for raven, you're talking they most likely have ddr3 still

[umbral moss]

I mean, I'm still using a... uhh... skylake? HEDT chip

it's almost 6 years old at this point and still works fine

arguing about 10 fps is irrelevant when you're at 200+

[deft sphinx]

yeah I know, but I don't like the E and P core arhitecture right now, I just wanna go with something that I know works, they had a few issues with 12 gen already and don't like to buy the first gen of this CPU variant, since compare to 5950x the only thing they have is the cheaper price and the few % in some cases

[hard drift]

no matter what you do it'll be a huge gain over bulldozer

[deft sphinx]

I did look at the revew of Gaming nexus

[umbral moss]

I'm hopeful intel will make a HEDT chip with just P cores

ain't nobody care about efficiency when you want maximum performance

[deft sphinx]

I know :3 I wanna get the 5950x cuz I wanna make an 3d workstation and streaming games and what not, it;s called the Vtuber project XDXD so yeah

[umbral moss]

yeah, if you just need something to get by get the cheapest you can get away with

but if you want XXXTREME performance you're leaving a few % on the table not buying the Absolute Fastest

[deft sphinx]

I just wanna get the best not being the first gen 12 cuz of the whole E and P thingy, I will look at them on their second gen and see what AMD has at that time

[hard drift]

you'd be better off waiting since you'd be having to buy ddr4 and a whole new platform anyways

that's wrong

actually wrong

[umbral moss]

yeah, if you're not reusing any components anyway you're better off just buying the latest DDR generation

[deft sphinx]

tho seriously some people really reallyt got on my nevers with their love for the 12 gen intel that discution evolved into low key insults 0.0 are all the PC talk like this?

[deep sapphire]

Ryzen has always used chiplets

Even first gen

[umbral moss]

honestly, I haven't used an AMD product since the barton era

[deft sphinx]

I'm gonna get the MB CPU and RAM, the rest of the old tech I will be using untill I can get every piece

[hard drift]

🤨 the only thing 5000 did different is 8 cores per ccx

[deep sapphire]

Yeah they’ve always been on an interposer

[umbral moss]

that's the thing though, if you buy DDR4 it won't go forward to your new PC if you build another one in the near future

DDR5 is the new hotness so they won't make DDR4 anymore, and the prices will start to climb as inventories drop without replenishment

[deep sapphire]

Just the bandwidth is significantly higher and as bidori said more cores per cluster

[deft sphinx]

that will be 3 years down the road, not much to go by

[deep sapphire]

They call it infinity fabric right

[hard drift]

yeah

[deft sphinx]

I mean there will still be people that use DDR4 5 years from now sooo

[hard drift]

infinity fabric for cpu and infinity cache for gpu

first gen most platforms suck lol

[deft sphinx]

DDR4 on dual channelo or Quad channel

[deep sapphire]

Why wouldn’t it have 4 ram slots

[hard drift]

quad channel isn't going to be a 5950x

it'll be dual channel

[deft sphinx]

aa ok

didn't notice

[hard drift]

yes there is, servers

[deft sphinx]

when I look at the prices

[deep sapphire]

Yeah but not on any consumer grade chipset

Only HEDT and server

You’d need to buy a threadripper

[hard drift]

i mean still exists rather than "no such thing"

[deep sapphire]

But quad channel is fairly pointless for almost anyone

Plus it puts more stress on the memory controller which can hamper overclocking stability

[umbral moss]

what even is intel's HEDT product anymore

[deep sapphire]

They don’t have one

[deft sphinx]

so any way, an B550 or an X570 ? cuz I heard people saying to absolutly get an B550, what is the difference that so many say to get that board?

[umbral moss]

did they finally retire the stupid-ass crippled xeons re-branded as XXXTREME EDITION chips?

[hard drift]

supposedly HEDT is pretty much dead hence why we have been without new threadrippers or anything from intel

[deep sapphire]

The last one was the 10990X

God that’s so confusing

[umbral moss]

wasn't TR like, stupidly huge and completely cost ineffective though

[deep sapphire]

10900K or 10990X

[umbral moss]

like this big 2x2 brick

[deft sphinx]

I have now an 750 ti + FX-8320(replaced the FX-6300 with a old MB ofc) and.......20 gb of ddr3 >.> so yeah I wanna upgrade sloly

[umbral moss]

2022 is the year for a new PC

[deep sapphire]

Zen and Zen+ based threadripper platforms were pretty meh unless you really needed the thread count

[umbral moss]

I still need to get some more stuff for the case itself 😔

[hard drift]

you will more than likely be fine with b550 raven as pcie 4.0 doesn't net much for your average consumer

[deft sphinx]

aa yeah blender used threads more so the review for 12900k vs 5950x was in favor of AMD >.>

[hard drift]

plus b550 is usually cheaper

[umbral moss]

I love the samsung SSD demo where they're like "bruhhhhHHH it transfers 14GB/s on PCIe 5"

[deep sapphire]

And because it’s unreliable you’ll end up having to run it in PCI-E gen 3 mode anyway

[hard drift]

that's a lie 😒

[deep sapphire]

[umbral moss]

like, yeah, great, it's mad fast in a fully saturated data application, but the average user doesn't use their SSD that way

so those gainz are useless

[deep sapphire]

Gulftown was pretty based

That being said the 2600K came out around the same time and eclipsed the 990X

[deft sphinx]

hope they are good, cuz I wanna get that for an PC that is 3d workstation and streaming, so I guess PCI-E gen 3 is what I will run any way ?

[deep sapphire]

Sandybridge was too good

I got mine for free because it was an engineering sample

[sly elk]

man you can really tell anandtech has changed to be like tom's hardware haha

"HERE'S THIS REALLY COOL INTEL STUFF!!!!!!" "oh yea also AMD"

[deep sapphire]

X58 was cool just sucked it didn’t have a native SATA 6 controller

[sly elk]

some company that owns toms hardware bought anandtech a few years ago

[jaunty light]

Sata is for losers!

[deep sapphire]

They were fairly buggy so it was pretty frustrating as SATA 3 only peaked around 300 mbps

But for the time that was more than enough

[sly elk]

whoa what

your x58 board had all the memory on one side?!

[deep sapphire]

SSDs were extremely expensive

[sly elk]

never seen that before

[deep sapphire]

All of them did that

You’re thinking of X99

[sly elk]

x79 too

[deep sapphire]

Yeah

[sly elk]

my x79 board had it on each side

[deep sapphire]

X58 was triple channel

79 and 99 were quad

[hard drift]

i'm still using ugly ram 😎

[deep sapphire]

Was a pretty cool looking mobo

[hard drift]

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232739?Item=N82E16820232739 this is the ram i'm using bought it for like 180

back in 2019

[deep sapphire]

That font

[hard drift]

what about it

[deep sapphire]

AMD sucks

[hard drift]

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

i'm done here 😭

[deep sapphire]

Mood

[hard drift]

you're not allowed tech mentor

[deep sapphire]

Good

[hard drift]

i am allowed though

[deep sapphire]

I’m gonna change my name to AMD sucks and because my name is near the top

Everyone will see it

[hard drift]

😔

[deep sapphire]

Hahaha

[hard drift]

time to block you

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-management-jack-nicholson-yes-duh-nods-gif-5222702

WOW

[hard drift]

this is nice

[deep sapphire]

We are

[hard drift]

we always do this shit to each other lmao

even though i hold no allegiance to any brand

and hank has his reasons for disliking amd

[deep sapphire]

Boston sucks

[jaunty light]

Dedodated wam

For da suhvah

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/_3mw49mk_x0

Watch this classic

It’s hilarious

GAHHBAGE

MAKIN SURE YOUR KIDS DONT DRINK NO PISS FROM SOME FUCKIN WATER FOUNTAIN

[deft sphinx]

.>

aaa I though it got thanos snaped by an mod

[hard drift]

[deep sapphire]

Getting banned from the forums is pretty easy from what I’m told

[deft sphinx]

eh?

what was it sooo......forbiden about it?

[jaunty light]

日本の?

[deft sphinx]

ooo

[jaunty light]

日本語が上手ない

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/mayward-lang-maymay-entrata-mayward-edward-barber-lie-gif-14694797

[hard drift]

it's not though 😔

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/pinnochio-lies-lying-liar-nose-gif-4932260

[deep sapphire]

Uuuuh

Yes

?

Maybe?

Perhaps?

I can’t read Japanese I have failed you all

[jaunty light]

ハンクは可愛いですね～～

[deft sphinx]

so I did look at B550, but I saw some as expensive as X570, what will be the best for an 5950X so so I don't buy the cheapest and won't run that CPU XD

[modest moss]

are there language rules in this server?

[hard drift]

no

[modest moss]

interesting, they shut voice channels because they were too hard to moderate but don't have language rules, which must be at least as hard to moderate

[hard drift]

depends what features you're looking for

[jaunty light]

ほほほ

[hard drift]

i mean they have mods and such that speak other languages

[modest moss]

I bet they don't have a lot covered though

[deft sphinx]

well, I wanna it to have bluetooth? the PC it will be for 3d work and Streaming games, I will also need some m.2 slots?

[modest moss]

did you just call me a Ho?

[jaunty light]

ほう、向かってくるのか？？

[potent arrow]

I skal alle begynde at tale engelsk

Jeg slår dig med en pind, hvis du ikke gør det

[hard drift]

i mean you could get a bluetooth adapter/pcie card if you want that too

[jaunty light]

Uh, perkele

[potent arrow]

forkert sprog

[modest moss]

Sarah confirmed viking

[potent arrow]

Næh det er det ikke

Kunne være kunne være ikke

[deft sphinx]

Ok, I guess that can be taken care of like that :3 I have no idea on what to look for in an MB, except for what I use the PC can't really tell you more, and ofc the cpu I will use

[potent arrow]

Mand det her er forfærdeligt lol

Honda Civic

[hard drift]

x570 aorus ultra isn't too bad had a lot better luck with this than the x570 taichi (please for the love of all that is good do not get the taichi from asrock)

[potent arrow]

Assrock

[jaunty light]

Bro taichi best

[hard drift]

i liked asrock until i used their motherboards....

[jaunty light]

Asrock numba wan

[hard drift]

holy shit it was bad, i had to rma that board 3 times

[deft sphinx]

won't an b550 be better? cuz that's what I heard, also don't the X570 have that fan thingy? cuz i always didn't like that it had an fan on the MB, one I can't change

[jaunty light]

Strix simp spotted

[hard drift]

there are models without the fan now plus x570 and b550 aren't that different for prices unless you go high end

[deft sphinx]

i will like without the fan, got a lot of dust in my room and all

[hard drift]

look for x570s then

[deft sphinx]

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/asus/rog-strix-x570-f-gaming/ this looks without the fan

ofc you need to translate the page

[hard drift]

no it has a fan

you want passive

[deft sphinx]

ooo

[hard drift]

best way to find out is go to the manufacturer page and look at specs

[deft sphinx]

the X570s is passiv?

[hard drift]

yes

s being silent (idk if that is true but it makes sense)

[deft sphinx]

ok I only got like 7 of them on that website

[hard drift]

the x570s is newer, most had active for the longest time

[deft sphinx]

the most expensive one is 400 eur

on that screen

[hard drift]

why don't you want the fan?

[jaunty light]

https://twitter.com/AMDRyzen/status/1478391476795105291?t=ls2DQ8vjdy11yacXRWQGAA&s=19

AMD Ryzen (@AMDRyzen)

Here's a first look at at our next generation of Ryzen processors, the all-new 5nm AMD Ryzen 7000 desktop processor! #AMD2022
https://t.co/s48GXEV2fB

Retweets

221

Likes

783

Twitter · Jan 4, 2022, 3:42 PM

Interesting ihs

[deft sphinx]

cuz I don't trust an fan that I can;t change on the MB, the fans on the GPU are made to last, that little small fan on the MB doesn;t inspiere safty that it won't break

[hard drift]

i mean you can change it actually, could also buy a 3rd party heatsink plus it's not on most of the time

the thing has yet to turn on for me and that's at default fan profile

[deft sphinx]

what of B550? your the only one that recommended the x570 :L3

[hard drift]

i only recommended x570 because b550 gets into x570 price real quick lol

[deft sphinx]

aaa, well beside the price I know they don't have fans, so I wanna get an B550 then :3 really hate that fan thingy

[hard drift]

okay then take into account what you're looking for, fan headers, usb, wifi/bluetooth, m.2, restrictions of the board if utilizing certain slots etc

[sturdy tendon]

Hi, anyone having the problem of suddenly losing all audio of all programs of late? Only reboot could tackle this and I did not find anything suspicious in recent Windows Updates or Device Manager. My OS is Win8.1

[hard drift]

you're after a high end cpu so you don't exactly want to cheap out on the motherboard either especially when some of the nice features such as error code readouts aren't included on cheaper stuff

[hard drift]

cursed OS

[deft sphinx]

yap, but there are still so many choices :3

here is all the B550 plus X570s

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/filtre/general-chipset-x570s/general-chipset-b550/?

on that page

unless you have another recomandation that ain't there i can search it on other websites

[modest moss]

Win8.1 is a yikes from me, I'd suggest moving to 10

[sturdy tendon]

I tried to upgrade to win10 with that official patch, but always fail.

[hard drift]

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/gigabyte/b550-aorus-pro-v2/ i'd go with this one unless you need more although you'd need a wifi/bluetooth card

[modest moss]

have you tried updating audio drivers?

[hard drift]

is windows 8 even still supported these days?

end of support 2016

[sturdy tendon]

I did just now. It said they are up to date...

Windows 8.1

[hard drift]

uninstall and reinstall audio drivers

[sturdy tendon]

I will do that if this appears a third time.

[hard drift]

end of life is still 2018... extended to 2023

what is the error you get when going to 10?

[sturdy tendon]

I was on a call with a friend on Telegram PC and playing in a dungeon of FFXIV. The call was severed with the hang up sound, and all went silent.

[deft sphinx]

hmmm ain't an issue that it has 6 USB 2.0? just asking cuz I might need to connect some stuff to it >.> like an VR headset ?

[hard drift]

it has usb 3.2 as well

[sturdy tendon]

Forgot about it, but it seems to be some coding error on Windows' side.

[hard drift]

you have 4 usb 3.2 and 1 type c

[sturdy tendon]

If they stop supporting windows 8.1, I might need to buy a serial code. My OS was shipped with my PC when I bought it in 2015.

[hard drift]

yeah windows 8.1 is almost end of life it was extended for some reason though

[sturdy tendon]

I just do not like the idea of having to buy OS again and again. Apps and programs these days are just milking people hard.

After my MSOffice license expired, I went for LibreOffice. Hate the milking attempts of Microsoft.

[odd sand]

Why do they skip gen numbering constantly

[hard drift]

you are able to upgrade for free still i believehttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-10-for-free/ar-AANvxT7

[jaunty light]

Mobile

[hard drift]

they aren't skipping gen numbering, it's in mobile

[jaunty light]

3000 and 5000 are desktop SKU, 4000 were mobiles

[hard drift]

mobile naming is a mess though lmao

[odd sand]

Windows 8.0 is EOL, but 8.1 still has some time (Not that you would want to be on 8 in any fashion)

[hard drift]

yeah but only because it was extended, 1 year left

[odd sand]

But 1000 weren't mobile, right?

[hard drift]

that was first gen

i don't even think zen 1 had mobile

[odd sand]

It still means they aren't consistent

[hard drift]

i mean you can assume odd is desktop now though since originally it was their last hope before bankruptcy

[sturdy tendon]

I wasted a few days in using that patch of upgrading 8.1 to 10. I just do not want to reinstall my programs. Installed quite some programs on my desktop PC....

The fact that it is 2022 and you still have to wipe off everything on your C disk to upgrade your MS Windows is frustrating...do you agree?

[hard drift]

well you could technically upgrade without wiping but it might cause problems

[sturdy tendon]

I downloaded that program but like I said, it always gave me error and stop.

[hard drift]

plus i keep my important stuff off my OS drive so that i can wipe it no problem

what's the error?

can't help if we don't have an error to go off of

[sturdy tendon]

Unable to copy some file to C disk but they are already there. It seems there is an error in their coding in this patch that many files are copied twice so sometimes this second time of copying crashes the process.

[odd sand]

It's always better to do a fresh reinstall, otherwise a lot of leftover crap can make the system unstable

[sturdy tendon]

Then I would have to buy a new serial code, do I not?

[jaunty light]

Product codes for OS are linked to MS accounts now

[odd sand]

Not necessarily. The upgrade process is supposed to flag that serial number for use on Win10 as well. Otherwise if you called their activation hotline I'm sure you could get it sorted out.

They want ppl on Windows so they're quite no-fuss about sorting out keys, even from earlier Windows versions

[sturdy tendon]

I see. Probably I will do it when I have time. The system size of Windows 8.1 is becoming rather large, too...

[odd sand]

Yeah there is a driver cache folder called WinSxS (SxS = Side by Side) that grows over time

[hard drift]

[odd sand]

Is this a laptop you have, or a desktop?

[sturdy tendon]

I used to be able to put FFXIV in C but now it is no more possible.

Desktop.

[odd sand]

Yeah, if possible I would get a larger SSD, but if you're only putting the OS and a few apps on it, that size is still okay

What CPU/ram do you have?

[sturdy tendon]

But yeah, good advice...but do I need to buy new codes for win11 tho?

[odd sand]

As Bidori linked earlier, otherwise there is a way to get the key upgraded via the Accessibility website still. It's an open secret they would rather you were on newer windows versions so they make it easy

[hard drift]

For 10 no for 8.1 -> 11 idk

[odd sand]

Anything 7 and newer upgrades to 11 for free

[hard drift]

I wouldn’t even upgrade to 11 if they paid me

[odd sand]

4790 might be problematic for 11 though. I can't say for sure. You would need to do a clean install to get around the TPM reqs

Win10 is just fine though, and supported thru 2025. By then you will have scrapped the 4790 anyways.

[sturdy tendon]

Yeah, probably just win10. But yeah, need to sort out what programs and data I have on C. Already moved My Documents and so on to D.

Some programs are really cumbersome to install, while others are probably fine...

[deft sphinx]

sorry to bother you again, ok so for the B550 I got the idea, but what if I list the X570? and just ignore my weird worry for the fan https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/filtre/general-chipset-x570/? also I get it for the bluetooth I will just buy an card for it.

[sturdy tendon]

Anyway, thanks.

[deep sapphire]

4790 is still solid

[hard drift]

what are you after for the x570 that you don't want b550 though?

[deep sapphire]

If it’s K sku you could just OC it a bit

[sturdy tendon]

It said K4790+...

I did not know what the + meant though.

[blazing summit]

would i benefit over b550 at all if i only plan to use it for the gen 4 x16 slot?

[deep sapphire]

Not sure tbh but K means it has what’s called an unlocked multiplier so overclocking is relatively easy but you have to be Atleast a moderate user to do it. If you aren’t familiar with overclocking I wouldn’t risk it

[modest moss]

it seems weird to have 24gb ram with a 4790k

[sturdy tendon]

I am not, so I never did it lol.

[deep sapphire]

That is kinda weird lmao but if it’s in dual channel then it’s fine

[sturdy tendon]

It was 16 GB. I bought extra for it.

It was back in 2015.

[hard drift]

you'd gain next to nothing atm

[modest moss]

you might have been better just going to 16gb, it's probably running at single channel

[hard drift]

you're talkin the gains are within margin of error/not worth it

[deep sapphire]

Usually for even channels you want pairs so if you had 8 you would got to 16 or 32 but 24 would work fine

You could check using a program called CPU Z

Under the memory tab it’ll tell you if it’s running in single or dual channel

[blazing summit]

cause i have b450 aorus elite at the moment with a beta bios for 5000 series, only issue with it is that i cant xmp my ram speed over 2933 without it just refusing to boot

[modest moss]

probably won't notice much difference either way in RL use

[hard drift]

2 or 4 sticks of ram

[blazing summit]

2

i got 3200 speed ram and i'm not using it to the best of its ability

[deep sapphire]

Look what showed up in my Facebook memories

[blazing summit]

[deep sapphire]

It sucked I wish I went Intel

[hard drift]

probably bad ram/motherboard

[sturdy tendon]

https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/241803-Lenovo-K450e-i7-4790-GTX-970-4GB-16GB-2x8GB-2TB-120GB-SSD-Win-8-1 I think this was the computer I bought. @deep sapphire

[blazing summit]

its not the ram, its the motherboard its capped at 2933

i looked it up online i need a new mobo

[hard drift]

it says it supports up to 3600

try a different bios?

[blazing summit]

there's 2 revisions of the board

[hard drift]

i'm looking at rev1

[blazing summit]

i looked up a review and they also said its capped at 2933

[deft sphinx]

hmm I don’t know, like more 3.2 usb? instead of 6 2.0 >.> and ofc some USB C ? aaaaand 3 m.2 slots if possible

[hard drift]

you're going to need to look at x570 then and probably higher end if you want multiple usb c

[blazing summit]

the only way i can fix the ram speed is from pulling a stick out or resetting cmos

[deft sphinx]

yeah no more that 400 eur tho or maybe 450 max

[hard drift]

what is that in the currency you've been sending

[deft sphinx]

RON, but they add vat 19% so whatever website your gonna look might be more expensive for me, 2000 ron is 400 eur, some of thous MB were going as far as 3000 ron >.>

[blazing summit]

@hard drift can i ask a suggestion?

[hard drift]

go ahead

[blazing summit]

do you know any AM4 socket motherboards with lots of usb3?

[hard drift]

you talking internal or external headers

[blazing summit]

external? ones that you plug stuff into

on the back of the board

[jaunty light]

Most high end boards

Probably mid as well

[hard drift]

your choices are not great for 3 m.2 slots lol that's it

and the 3.0 headers aren't much more

[hard drift]

define a lot now

[blazing summit]

more than 4

[hard drift]

assuming we're talking type A only?

[blazing summit]

yup

[jaunty light]

I have a crossair viii and it has 4 3.0, 6 or 7 3.2 and usbc

[hard drift]

yeah but that's an expensive motherboard lol

[blazing summit]

i was thinking the crossair as well but the price for the cpu i have i thought would be a bit overkill

i only have a 5600x

[jaunty light]

, if you want more you gotta pay for it

[blazing summit]

and i heard that series of board is for like high end or overclocked cpus

[hard drift]

you're really not going to get that many more than say 4-5 for budget end ones

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-crosshair-viii-dark-hero/p/N82E16813119362?Description=crosshair viii&cm_re=crosshair_viii-_-13-119-362-_-Product&quicklink=true this is a cheaper crosshair board for a ton of gen 3 but still expensive

[blazing summit]

was thinking of that board but also wondering if its worth also with zen 4 coming out

[hard drift]

from personal experience do not go first gen for a chipset

it was such a headache

[blazing summit]

i have been hearing about all those issues with the alder lake

[hard drift]

that's how it was when 3000 series first came out lmao

[blazing summit]

well just heat and a specific motherboard

[hard drift]

i've been using it since release

it's normal 🤷‍♂️

early adopter problems lol

[modest moss]

any reason why a usb hub isn't an option?

[blazing summit]

purely just for space, i wouldnt have anywhere to put a usb hub unless it would just be dangling about or stuck to my desk with double sided tape or something

[hard drift]

i mean that's what i do 🤷‍♂️

[modest moss]

gotta pay the big bux then

[deft sphinx]

yeah I can see the auros master x570 I can look it on some other website and see were is the stock, or if you can look for the MB and I will look it on some other websites? as long as it doesn’t go over 500 eur

[blazing summit]

and mostly because i want to make sure my motherboard isnt a bottleneck to my memory speed as well as having a lot of usb

[modest moss]

can probably get a pcie expansion card?

[hard drift]

the problem is a lot of your boards that have more usb 3 or 3m.2 slots are expensive so it's harder best bet would be look for those

[blazing summit]

was one of the main reasons i went with the b450 aorus elite, came with a lot of usb for being b450

[deft sphinx]

yeah some have like ovet 600 eur price, but on B550 I even found some with 3-4 m.2 slots not that expensive but ofc didn’t had enough USB 3.2 A ports and had like 1 USB c port

[hard drift]

also the m.2 slots are pcie 3.0/limited on what you can do such as certain configs disable pcie slots or m.2 slots

[deft sphinx]

ok I will only get the 2 m.2 slots and need the USB slots more

[hard drift]

how many are you needing though

because at that point might be better to get a usb type c hub for ports

[deft sphinx]

that’s the thing, I don’t know, I do intent to connect quite a lot of external stuff, some like 2-3 USB c and 6 USB 3.2 tipe A? hope I don’t ask to much :/

[hard drift]

yeah good luck with that one .... multiple usb type c is in the high end range same with 6 usb 3.2

[blazing summit]

i would do that but would need to remove my pcie wifi card, dont currently use wifi so that could be a decent option tbf

[deft sphinx]

it’s ok I wanna see my options

[hard drift]

it's not possible even looking at your options you have to pick and choose even for 2 m.2 slots

[hard drift]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Crosshair-VIII-Dark-Hero/dp/B08MTKJ6HM/ref=sr_1_11?crid=1YU5YA2JU0F53&keywords=rog+strix+x570&qid=1641327058&sprefix=rog+strix+x570%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-11 you're talking even a nearly 500 dollar motherboard doesn't have all the features you want idk how much this would be in your country

https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-viii-extreme-model/spec this is about the best you're going to get but it's so overkill and doesn't even meet all of what you want

[jaunty light]

[deft sphinx]

ah I did say that 500 is maxim :3

so far so good let’s see how much it cost tho

in my country

:3

[hard drift]

i know lol, but it's a lot

[deft sphinx]

this is WAY to EXTREAM!!

XD

[hard drift]

yeah but that's about the best you're going to get for what you want lmao

[deft sphinx]

5!!! m.2 !!!

.>

[hard drift]

but the usb 😏 it's what you wanted

[deft sphinx]

I don't get it, way is the USB c so expensive to add ?? even the extream one has 2 ?

tho the other ports are a ton of them :3

[hard drift]

because you can't just add them lol, there's a lot that goes into a chipset/board

[odd sand]

https://www.newegg.com/p/17Z-00VP-00001

Most cables are fat-USB to USB-C anyways.

[hard drift]

love pcie has pretty much anything you could want lol

[odd sand]

Unless dealing with a laptop and peripherals

[deft sphinx]

yeah I know you can't just add them, that was my question, what is that USB tipe C makes it so rare to find on MB more that 1 ?

[sly elk]

gotta get the real deal 😄

with the dp in, so you can drive a thunderbolt monitor 😉

[hard drift]

mini dp...

[sly elk]

with pcie 4.0/5.0

[deft sphinx]

lool look what I found

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/gigabyte/x570s-aorus-master/

[sly elk]

it'd be nice if we got video cards that had the usbc/thunderbolt ports on them

[odd sand]

Motherboards are super overpriced these days

[sly elk]

instead of the janky old legacy interfaces

[deft sphinx]

less USB but has bloody 4 m.2

[hard drift]

so expensive

[sly elk]

my only complaint about usb-c/thunderbolt is the length and cost of the cables

[odd sand]

The only thing I have with a USB-C to C cable is my phone charging cable. They go for compatibility in most cases

[sly elk]

if they became the norm

you'd probably pay $1k for a thunderbolt monitor that comes with a "1M" cable

and then have to pay another $150 for a proper 3m or 5m cable

[deft sphinx]

hey, the EXTREAM one you linked is double the price of this one

[hard drift]

but more usb lol

[deft sphinx]

yeah XD

[odd sand]

@sly elk I assume there is a lot of attenuation for the faster USB-C bc yeah, I can't really find anything over 1-2m unless it's 480Mbps version https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24283

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24285

[deep sapphire]

Ah alright

It’s a non K CPU looks like

[sly elk]

when it comes to I/O, gamer PC parts are kinda behind the times

... they always have been

[odd sand]

Because nobody who wants to game is gonna buy a 5K display bc you'll get 5fps

[deft sphinx]

@hard drift FOUND THE USBS XD https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baza/msi/prestige-x570-creation/

[hard drift]

yeah i saw that board lol, but only a scalper was selling it originally

[deft sphinx]

so you think 3.1 and 3.2 is that much faster that 3.0?

[odd sand]

Depends on which Gen. 3.1 Gen 1 and 3.2 Gen 1 are both the same as 3.0

Because "standards"

[hard drift]

usb is a fucked standard but yeah it depends

[modest moss]

is this more madness of spending hundreds extra on a mobo just to avoid a usb hub or expansion card?

[odd sand]

HDMI is similarly fucked now that 2.1 doesn't mean it meets the 2.1 standard

[hard drift]

truth lmao

[deft sphinx]

might need that expantion card for something else, like an capture card? maybe even an sound card for the mic that I will buy

:3

[odd sand]

They need to fire the entire current board and bylaws and start over if they're so far up their own asses they can't see why a standard with no standards is worthless

Most people these days don't bother with an internal discrete sound card anymore. They go for a USB-connected DAC/Amp

[hard drift]

as you should

[deft sphinx]

LOL so i basicaly have 7 3.2 USB tipe A ???

ignoring the gen tipe they should have an speed of 10 gb no? tho what device needs that much speed if ain't video format any way

@hard drift are thous good? just asking, also what m.2 SSD on PCI-E 3 should I get?

[quick inlet]

samsung evo 980 pro

[deft sphinx]

so is the PCI-E 3 SSD an relic now?

[quick inlet]

i wouldnt say its a relic

you can get the 970 if your motherboard only has 3.0 lane

the samsung m2 drives are worth it tho especially that 980 is beastly

[hard drift]

gen 3 ssds aren't bad for consumers most people won't see a benefit to using gen 4 speeds atm anyways

[latent grotto]

True

I got a 980 pro and its not that much different from the 970 evo for my use case

[hard drift]

yeah but just because it's essentially twice the speed doesn't mean you'll notice a difference

[quick inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-allen-home-improvement-grunt-gif-23152896

[hard drift]

it all depends on what you do

a gamer for example will get next to nothing from upgrading to that

[quick inlet]

i think thats a different subject tho

i thought we were optimizing a build

[hard drift]

we were explaining that pcie gen 3 isn't a relic

and is still worth getting

[quick inlet]

yeah but if you have a 4.0 lane i think it would be a shame not to go for it

[hard drift]

i don't have experience with those brands so idk 🤷‍♂️ legend 740 1tb just because of price per gb/speed

[hard drift]

there's next to no gain unless you actually need it so not worth the price premium vs a gen 3 unless in your country it's almost the same

[quick inlet]

well yeah thats the other thing, its 10$

[latent grotto]

Most pcs atm should have pcie 3.0

Pcie 4.0 may have some relevance once direct storage becomes more common

But until then for gaming it doesnt matter much

[hard drift]

i mean if gen 4 drives are that cheap vs 3 you can still use it for a 3.0 lane 👀

[quick inlet]

yep its backwards compatible

[latent grotto]

just feelsbadman

[hard drift]

~~i wouldn't know 😭 ~~

[latent grotto]

Also I said that cuz the last thing I saw was about how 3.0 isn't deprecated yet

[hard drift]

i was forced to get a gen 4 drive, gen 3 was out of stock when i needed it near me

they're a lot faster than my old m.2 atleast my old m.2 was pretty much just the form factor vs m.2 speeds

[odd sand]

The practical difference in loading speeds between PCIE 3.0 and 4.0 are very very small

Since a lot of loading is also dependent on the CPU/GPU

[sly elk]

There's a giant jump in price from 970 evo to 980 pro

or at least, there was...

the 970 evo is priced more like a 980 evo

[quick inlet]

about 10-20$ difference it looks like

[hard drift]

idk about that

the 980 pro 500gb is 120usd vs a 970 evo plus being 1tb at 124~ usd

and comparing 500gb to 500gb it's nearly half the price for the 970

[quick inlet]

im lookin at newegg from the usa

[hard drift]

🤨 there's no way

you're talking this is scalper prices

[modern iris]

120 for a 1tb seems nice

[hard drift]

you're paying too much for that vs the evo plus from a scalper

sold by newegg it's still cheaper to do 970 by 60-70 dollars

[quick inlet]

yea unfortunately the 970 isnt even available on newegg rn

[hard drift]

it is if you check sold by newegg

[quick inlet]

ah the evo plus

whats the difference there

[hard drift]

yeah which is technically better/the same

[silver bay]

game went silent out of the blue. Just the game tho, my call on discord is working fine and all. Is there a fix to this w/o restarting game?

[hard drift]

not that i'm aware of mine did the same

been this way since this morning suffering in silence 😭

[dull garnet]

Mine did that the other day

[deep sapphire]

Tech I did a good deed, I called the cops on a drunk driver

Upboats to the left

[deep sapphire]

This is a common bug with endwalker. If you’re using a gaming headset with usb make sure you have the drivers, aren’t using surround sound and the default audio profile for playback is correct in windows

[silver bay]

what if my headset is 3.5mm

[deep sapphire]

Are you using virtual surround sound or spatial audio?

[modest moss]

I dub thee Sir Poggington

[deep sapphire]

It was a coincidence too cause I was signing up to this gym and there was a bar next door, I saw this truck leaving as I pulled in. Didn’t think anything of it but as I was heading home I saw him again and he was all over the road

He kept peeling into the other lane and then abruptly correcting himself constantly

I’m like this dude it’s blitzed and gonna kill someone

Is**

[modest moss]

fuck that guy, hope he goes to jail

[deep sapphire]

Me too and fuck that bar for serving him to the point he can’t even drive

Good thing his truck was easy to recognize it was an old dodge with purple paint lmao

[sly elk]

ram daytona!

those didn't come in purple though

[deep sapphire]

It was 2nd gen

90s

It was like maroon purple

Weird color

It’s night time so that could’ve thrown me off

[sly elk]

oh that might have eve nbeen factory

[deep sapphire]

Yep that would be the paint color

[sly elk]

i've never seen that on anything other than a caravan

[deep sapphire]

Yeah me neither that’s probably why it stuck in my head lol

[sly elk]

also never seen that without half the paint missing

[potent arrow]

I hate that color

It's on crvs too

Wine purple

[deep sapphire]

It was surprisingly clean for a dodge in the north

[sly elk]

like every time I've ever seen that color on a van

[deep sapphire]

99 percent of those trucks are completely rotted out

[sly elk]

the van looked like this

every time, without exception

[deep sapphire]

Lol dodge

[sly elk]

oh yea PT cruisers had it a lot, too

yea but I've never personally had paint issues like that

[deep sapphire]

Let’s use thin shitty sheet metal with no corrosion protection

[potent arrow]

Pt cruisers are the bane of design

[jaunty light]

Uh..

[sly elk]

yea, again never had paint issues like that

the only paint issue I ever experienced was with my last jeep

[jaunty light]

These arent 8pin pcie cables, cablemod

[sly elk]

I opted for painted hardtop and fenders, and there was a certain thing that caused a few small spots where the paint came off

but on the actual metal body it was perfectly fine

haven't had that issue with the blue jeep

[deep sapphire]

Yeah California weather isn’t too bad on cars assuming you don’t have Honda tier clear coat

[deep sapphire]

LOL

[jaunty light]

This probably explains why my card never hits power limit wtf

[sly elk]

yea it's funny that the caravan came up, because the other vehicles I always saw with that problem were odysseys and accords

[deep sapphire]

If you’re talking about late 90s Honda was not reliable at all

If it had a V6 the transmission was gonna grenade

Literally a guarantee

Lmao

[jaunty light]

What the hell is in this kit

[sly elk]

yea that went all the way to like 2006

the v6+auto combo was bad

[deep sapphire]

Honda put a very underpowered gear box in their larger vehicles and anything with a V6

[sly elk]

and then the very popular acura TL of that era

had issues with the dashboard cracking up

[deep sapphire]

Chevy is sorta guilty of that too cause the 4L60E is pretty infamous for it too if you did any towing

Thankfully they’re so common it’s like 700 bucks to get it rebuilt

[deep sapphire]

Haha

Acura TL was such a bad car

Find them on Craigslist all day for 1200 bucks

Acura is just a meme

[sly elk]

i wonder how good the beaky replacement was in terms of reliability

[deep sapphire]

The new TLX is a joke

[jaunty light]

Theyre combo or 6pin not 8s wtf cablemod

I have been scammed as of years ago

[sly elk]

@jaunty light those are seriously weird

[deep sapphire]

Maybe it’s under warranty still

Not that they are probably that expensive

[sly elk]

the cablemods I have are 6+2

where the 2 pins are a separate piece

one thing I realized is I'm not a huge fan of that kinda braided. dust sticks to it.

[jaunty light]

Mine are 6+2 but whats the point of the extra 2 if its not wired

Unless i dont understand the wiring

Where is my 5 meters long psu?!

But uh, yeh

[sly elk]

wait what

it looks like it has 8 wires

[jaunty light]

It seems they double up all the wires into the 6 pins

[sly elk]

huhhh

maybe somebody screwed up

[jaunty light]

New cables it is...

Strimer?!

[sly elk]

my triple 8 finally shipped >>

it's funny how i ordered both the mb and gpu ones at the same time, and the mb one came before the gpu one shipped

but yesss so far I'm a fan

there's one thing I'm worried about - how long the LED data/power cable is coming off the gpu one

[dreamy chasm]

https://youtu.be/_FJKCVFOa_c

Took Intel long enough

6c12t with no e cores

But given 12th gen e core ipc is pretty good, this should be a good deal given that prices stay reasonable

@deep sapphire hey, I can finally recommend Intel midrange again

[jaunty light]

Strimer 24 and pro 8pins on de wei

[deep sapphire]

AMD shot themselves in the foot by pricing out any midrange

The 5600 is just a bad buy

And the lack of a 5700 boggles me

[sly elk]

intel wintel

[hard drift]

they have a 5700, the 5700G it just performs like a 3700x

[deep sapphire]

That doesn’t count

[hard drift]

lol

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

but I agree 100% about AMD here.

they had my attention with the 3xxx and the interesting threadripper

then they fucking blew it

with their permanently sold out $900 5950x

[dreamy chasm]

5700g is the "I can't buy a gpu and just want to game with good upgradeability" cpu

[hard drift]

true

[sly elk]

and the x570 boards that cost like $500 for a crosshair

[hard drift]

only thing that sucks about it aside from performance is the igpu is still vega

[dreamy chasm]

5700g is a product with a niche, can't say the same about the non g skus

[deep sapphire]

Like sure AMD knew they had a winning product and priced it as such they are a business

[sly elk]

and to top that all off

you have to have like ddr4 3600 AT A MINIMUM

[hard drift]

no you don't

[deep sapphire]

But they have to remember the die hard fans that told you a 3850 was good enough for gaming

[sly elk]

oh? ok nevermind that last point then

[dreamy chasm]

11400f traded blows with the 5600x in single core during gaming too

12400f is even better

[deep sapphire]

But that’s the good thing about both of them being competitive

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[deep sapphire]

The consumer now has choice

[dreamy chasm]

Competition is good

I hope this continues

[hard drift]

it has to do with the infinity fabric being half the speed of the the ram up to a max point i believe 3733 was the max for 5000 but it wasn't needed

[sly elk]

i agree

[deep sapphire]

And Intel owning their own fabs means supply isn’t frustrating to get

[dreamy chasm]

Nothing against amd, but their products aren't v well positioned rn outside of their apus

[deep sapphire]

AMERICAN MADE UNLIKE THAT OTHER GUY

Amirite bidori

[sly elk]

eh

are they?

[dreamy chasm]

bc the apus serve a niche that none of Intel currently holds

[hard drift]

true, that's what happens when competition gets complacent at the top and stops innovating

[deep sapphire]

Most of intels fabs are in the states

[dreamy chasm]

Intel does tend to have better availability whenever they're in demand, it seems like

[sly elk]

i don't eve r remember getting an intel chip that said USA on the package

[hard drift]

i mean they're also a lot bigger than amd

[dreamy chasm]

I'm curious to see how amd responds though

[deep sapphire]

I can assure you intel’s fabs are in America

[dreamy chasm]

6000 series seems promising, given the updated igpus

[deep sapphire]

They have a couple in Israel as well

[dreamy chasm]

Imagine having compelling gpu+cpu performance on a single chip

[hard drift]

yeah, finally using navi

[dreamy chasm]

We've already seen it on their console chips

I.e ps5/xbsex/deck

[hard drift]

yeah but those were designed in partnership with microsoft/sony

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[deep sapphire]

Daily reminder AMD almost went bankrupt by buying ATI to make the fusion platform which was a joke

[hard drift]

ampere is a fusion platform prove me wrong

[dreamy chasm]

Can't deny that they have the tech to produce powerful igpus if they want to

[autumn needle]

i have no audio now after the patch

[hard drift]

if they would stop optimizing their consumer platform for machine learning they might have pulled the gaming crown by a big lead lol

[deep sapphire]

Disable the spatial audio feature in XIV

Make sure you have drivers for your headset if using USB

[hard drift]

yeah, it's just sad they haven't yet for desktops

[deep sapphire]

I need to make a write up for this it’s becoming such a common issue

[autumn needle]

Im just using my monitor sound

[hard drift]

tech mentor slacking smh

[deep sapphire]

True

[hard drift]

slacking and advocating for chevy while using a ford

[dreamy chasm]

Just make a checklist and ask a mod to add it to kupo @deep sapphire

Wait, can you use kupo here

!faq phlegma

[opal panther]

Phlegma Balls.

[hard drift]

hank has the rights to pin stuff here

[dreamy chasm]

Okay, cool

[hard drift]

so can just refer to pings

[dreamy chasm]

kupo is more attention grabbing, tbf

[hard drift]

yeah but people never listen to kupo 😔

[dreamy chasm]

But pins should work too, yeah

[hard drift]

too many people in here not knowing basic stuff 😭 even when you can check pins for a lot of it or kupo

[dreamy chasm]

Most new people here don't know kupo exists

And don't know you can use it in bot spam

[hard drift]

i just noticed windows reenabled all this shit

bad windows

[odd sand]

MS engineers know what you need better than you know yourself

[hard drift]

that's apple

or atleast they think they do

[odd sand]

Apple knows what their shareholders need. Building in all that non-repairable Value

[hard drift]

no no, they're changing their thing with allowing you to buy parts

[dreamy chasm]

Every tech company participates in the activity of seeing what they can get away with, tbh

[hard drift]

apple is just a huge offender for it

[dreamy chasm]

Its just that apple is such a cult of brand that they can afford to get away with a lot

[hard drift]

yeah 😔

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

i know some apple cultists, they disgust me

[odd sand]

It's malicious compliance though: They're providing parts, but still making it as much a PITA as possible and providing little instruction or tools

[deep sapphire]

Like who

[hard drift]

i finally converted one of them to windows

[dreamy chasm]

Defending an old deprecated connector standard over type c just because you can shove a screwdriver in it

[deep sapphire]

[twin kindle]

About that

[deep sapphire]

The lightning connector can do anything USB C can

[dreamy chasm]

[hard drift]

except connect to usb c

[dreamy chasm]

Or transfer files at the speed of type c

[hard drift]

doesn't lightning also not allow as high wattage for charging as usb c?

[dreamy chasm]

Unsure, but I wouldn't be surprised

You can drive displays with type c lol

[deep sapphire]

its like 35w

how much more do you need

[hard drift]

100w

[deep sapphire]

look, I get the criticism of it, but you have to remember

most apple customers are prior apple customers

allowing the use of a cable they've had for years

means they dont need to buy something else

[hard drift]

except the new ones came with a usb c to lightning cable and no brick

[deep sapphire]

the cables arent anymore expensive

okay that I agree was bullshit

[hard drift]

i didn't even have a usb c brick until someone lost one at work one day and i took it

[deep sapphire]

and the reason I think its bullshit is because they only included an 18w fast charger for a single model year

before that they had those useless 5w adapters

[hard drift]

yeah

[deep sapphire]

so their excuse for that was just dumb

[hard drift]

i still have a bunch of those shitty ones

[deep sapphire]

if all they made was 5w chargers, sure fine nobody used them

[hard drift]

people lose them all the time and i just take them for other usb devices

[deep sapphire]

but the 18w charger at the time was the fastest first party charger they offered for the phone

and being most people upgrade every 2 years

that just put unnecessary cost on the consumer

[hard drift]

they knew what they were doing but cultists won't see it 😭

and considering they overcharged for it

[umbral moss]

but making you buy a separately packaged device for a single-item premium is good for the environment, or something

certainly nothing at all to do with stock prices

[deep sapphire]

yeah that was a dumb argument by apple

for reasons said above

[umbral moss]

at least anker has the decency to make really novel charger systems with their ADC converters

[hard drift]

the tiny ass 1m cable is 19 dollars.... wtf apple lmao

[deep sapphire]

NEVER buy apple cables

absolute garbage

[hard drift]

i know, i was just looking

[umbral moss]

apple cables are monster cables

all logo and no quality

[dreamy chasm]

tfw third party ones are better

[umbral moss]

did monster finally go out of business or are they on to bottom feeding off NFTs or whatever

[deep sapphire]

I dunno how many of those stupid lightning to 3.5mm adapters I had because they kept going bad

the cable was so thin

[dreamy chasm]

People out here in my country buy all original apple and cry when their cable wears out quickly

[umbral moss]

but if it was thicker it wouldn't break as often

and you wouldn't buy a new one for $19 each time

think, hank

think

[deep sapphire]

I finally caved and got airpods, but in the end I was happy with the purchase because they are much nicer to use day to day, specially in the gym

[dreamy chasm]

Airpods is probably the only compelling product that I can see myself buying

It's too expensive though

[hard drift]

the only good thing about airpods is the anc

the rest is shit

[dreamy chasm]

I'm fine with my cheap buds when they work

[umbral moss]

I'm too much of a grognard to use wireless headphones

[hard drift]

airpods the anc is 10/10 compared to any other company i've experienced so far

[deep sapphire]

no the best thing about airpods is how seamless and comfortable they are

[umbral moss]

give me back the RCA jack you cowards

[hard drift]

they aren't comfortable wtf

[umbral moss]

or design a slimline DAC that takes USB-C

[dreamy chasm]

Get yourself a cheap 40 dollar pair, they're convenient

[deep sapphire]

my sony XM4s sound great but god they are frustrating to use

[umbral moss]

losing them isn't convenient lmao

[deep sapphire]

airpods are extremely comfortable

[umbral moss]

"but they fell out"

[deep sapphire]

you got tiny ears

smh

[hard drift]

there are already usb c dacs that are small

[dreamy chasm]

Never had issues with my buds

[umbral moss]

"I need a cable to keep them from falling on the ground"

literally describing wired headphones

[dreamy chasm]

I use a pair from a cn company called soundpeats

8 hours runtime

[umbral moss]

yeah, but they're still using a breakout box

[dreamy chasm]

2 hours charging

[hard drift]

😔

[dreamy chasm]

I'd much rather go with wireless buds while walking lol

Then again, I don't use expensive pairs that I'd be devastated to lose

[deep sapphire]

I couldnt hide from the raycon ads any longer

I had to buy a pair

they speak to me

[dreamy chasm]

LMAO

Please don't buy those

[deep sapphire]

and if you follow this link you'll get 30 percent off your purchase

[dreamy chasm]

For the love of God

[umbral moss]

this post brought to you by raid shadow legends

[dreamy chasm]

Those aren't any better than 10 buds you can get on aliexpress

[deep sapphire]

pay for youtube premium
they start putting ads in the video

[umbral moss]

imagine not just using ublock

[dreamy chasm]

YouTube vanced has crowdsourced in video promo filtering

[umbral moss]

interstitial ads begone

[deep sapphire]

I have an iPhone

at home I do

[modest moss]

yikes

[deep sapphire]

couldnt be me, I dont use 24 hour time

android finally has decent mid range choices

before you either got dog shit or samsung

I would recommend an android phone now days

[umbral moss]

no, you just get dog shit

[deep sapphire]

just not samsung

[twin kindle]

Shockingly tech has done downhill

[umbral moss]

stock android is a trash experience and all the SEA skins are somehow worse

[deep sapphire]

hey cool phone bro here's 10 verizon apps that you cant get rid of

[dreamy chasm]

I just buy a cheap android phone until it dies

[umbral moss]

bring back windows phone you cowards

https://tenor.com/view/reee-kid-tantrums-gif-15375793

[deep sapphire]

another thing people dont understand atleast in america is even though iPhones are expensive you can pretty much always get one with no interest financing

thats why they sell so many

[dreamy chasm]

I'm currently on a 120 dollar xiaomi phone with a 5000mah battery

It's been running strong for a year so far

[deep sapphire]

oh yeah im using an energizer phone with 200000000000000001 mah

[dreamy chasm]

And is pretty much fast enough for discord and YouTube

[umbral moss]

I mean, all phones are that way now, they're just not contracted in some weird legal technicality

[dreamy chasm]

Man, I remember that phone

[quick inlet]

im on my third pixel 2

[deep sapphire]

thanks google

[umbral moss]

I have a pixel 2 XL and I hate it

[deep sapphire]

thats what happens when LG makes something

[umbral moss]

it's the fact it's a phonezilla

[sly elk]

i like how their newest OLED screen doesn't have any usb-c at all

asshats

[umbral moss]

like, I don't watch porn on my phone, I don't need a 6 inch diagonal phone

[deep sapphire]

from chevy sonic batteries exploding in your garage to poorly built phones

[umbral moss]

taking up my whole-ass pocket

[deep sapphire]

I almost made the mistake of buying the Nexus 5X when it first came out

[umbral moss]

6 inch diagonal is table stakes for android now

oh, you only have a 6.4" screen? peasant

[deep sapphire]

that phone was so bad google literally gave people a free Pixel 1 as a replacement

[sly elk]

it's funny how iphones come in such a wide gamut from, 'good deal' to 'holy crap wtf'

at&t 36 month financing I think?

[deep sapphire]

36 months god damn

[dreamy chasm]

Long displays are starting to grow on me

[umbral moss]

imagine the iphone SE chassis but it's all screen

[deep sapphire]

t mobile is only 24 months

[deep sapphire]

nice pun

[sly elk]

and it's still a bad deal lol

[dreamy chasm]

This is what I'm on rn

[sly elk]

I mean i guess whatever

[dreamy chasm]

Cameras are shit but

It's whatever

[sly elk]

I dunno why but I really prefer buying phones cash

[dreamy chasm]

Same

[sly elk]

especially the way the mobile companies now are like

[dreamy chasm]

But it's mostly bc financing here requires interest

And that's just, why?

[umbral moss]

honestly, phone cameras are always going to be shit

[deep sapphire]

move to america, everything is low interest credit

BUY BUY BUY

[sly elk]

Get this iPhone for $100! if you pay for it over 24 months with a $30.66 payment and a $25.00 credit! Oh and that credit vaporizes if you fart on a sunday

[deep sapphire]

GOTTA HAVE IT ALL BABY

[umbral moss]

fixed focal length, fixed aperture, tiny sensor

[dreamy chasm]

Until you want to go to college

[deep sapphire]

nah see

there's a trick

just go to community college

[sly elk]

also you trade in your old phone!

and oh wait noooooo

[dreamy chasm]

Fair

[sly elk]

we received your old phone but it was BROKEN!!!one!

so we're not giving you that credit after all

[deep sapphire]

and if you're lower middle class or living out of your rusted dodge you'll get college for free

dont listen to redditors, they whine because they went to some university that they couldnt afford and switched their major 300 times

"omg im in 300,000 dollars of debt pls help me"

[sly elk]

community college is also the way to go if you fuck up that 1 class in high school

[deep sapphire]

or the military

[sly elk]

on one hand, sometimes the teachers are amazing

and class sizes can be smaller. sometimes. otoh

when I was in community college it was horribly underfunded haha

[deep sapphire]

kyanche went to that school

"why cant I teach these kiiiiiiiidz"

[sly elk]

there weren't enough of the high level classes for transferring to engineering, so the classes would fill up within 10 mins of being able to sign up for them

and like

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEj9ZwIzk44

WHO CALLIN THE SHOTS ESSAY

[sly elk]

the financial aid office had like a 6 week processing period after ANY changes

[deep sapphire]

jesus

stand and deliver is a wholesome movie

im gonna go watch it again

[cedar arch]

Oh they announced 3050 and 3090ti?

[deep sapphire]

yeah

[cedar arch]

Too bad people won't be able to get them

Scalpers gonna grab them as soon as they hit the shelf

250 is a nice price though for the 3050.. sucks cause I could actually afford that

[deep sapphire]

is it the same crappy one they use in laptops

oh wow

8GB VRAM