believe me i know that feeling xD
#technology-discussion
blazing summit
i'll probs end up doing that next generation
teal fable
and its still unoperational due to my ram taking ages to get here
blazing summit
i'm just waiting for new stuff to come out so i dont end up buying top of the range stuff just when its coming up to the end of that cycle of the product
teal fable
no doubt amd will wipe the floor with intel in its new gen and ill regret going intel, again xD
blazing summit
isnt this 12th gen? with the P and E cores?
dreamy chasm
If you're budgeting, go for a decent b450/b550 board and spend the rest on performance
12th gen is great but the high cost of their z mb platform kinda kills some of the value proposition imho.
teal fable
isnt this 12th gen? with the P and E cores?
Yeah
blazing summit
i've never actually gone an intel cpu before
my first ever gaming pc was from bulldozer which was a bit of a dumpsterfire
then i upgraded to ryzen after years of having an fx 6300
teal fable
What’s pissing me off is ebutter are still taking pre ordered on ram I pre ordered nearly a month ago so god knows where in that hell hole queue im going to be
I’ve always been intel , not sure why I did look at the 5950x but still chose intel
dreamy chasm
If you're running a 5600x rn, it still should be more than sufficient and shouldn't need upgrading unless you really need the performance for a specific task
blazing summit
its purely just because i've never had a top of the range system before and always wanted one
teal fable
If you're running a 5600x rn, it still should be more than sufficient and should...
A specific task ? Haha upgrading any always about needing to for a reason
blazing summit
i know its good enough already on where it is now
blazing summit
3070 with a 5600x is no slouch but i think its just a flex really and something to build on and change, upgrading is an addiction that never stops
teal fable
I got possessed watching people build on YouTube
dreamy chasm
You'd honestly be better served by getting nice peripherals
teal fable
So my wallet and credit history took a hit
blazing summit
i just want a project to build since its something i love doing
been that way since i was building my own pc's at 11 but i probs was awful at it at the time
its just a massive hobby
teal fable
been that way since i was building my own pc's at 11 but i probs was awful at it...
If only we could get sponsored like the yourubers do 😆
blazing summit
i just used old parts my dad has and put something together with those
dreamy chasm
Fair enough
Well
Watercooling your rig, perhaps?
Mood lighting for your setup
A Herman Miller chair for your back
blazing summit
was thinking of watercooling but concerned i'd end up bricking my card
if it wasnt so difficult to get a gpu at the moment i would give it a try but i've never watercooled before, most i've done for that is use an aio on a cpu
dreamy chasm
You'd be worrying more about proper fitting for everything more than a bricked card, as long as you get a proper waterblock
And, fair
blazing summit
was thinking of changing out my fans though tbh
i have ll120s atm and thinking of going with the maglev ones
since they have magnets in them it minimizes sound as well as having less points of failure
teal fable
im not watercooling my card until its warranty is up xD
blazing summit
^
dreamy chasm
Reasonable
I don't touch water myself
Not really the type to overclock, so air tends to be good enough for me
Less points of failure too.
teal fable
indeed
real edge
you can OC to the max with air cooling, but it will be a tad hotter than with liquid
blazing summit
i had an aio from nzxt but ended up getting rid of it for a noctua nhd15 for noise, the pump inside the aio i had was horrible, was in a decent orientation and everything but even at like 40-50 percent pump i just couldnt bear the whine coming from it
teal fable
i dont think ill be overclocking anything until the warranties are up to xD
blazing summit
but the cooler i have is way overkill for the cpu
dreamy chasm
I'm almost sure that manufac can't know if you've overclocked your gpu unless you blow components on it from volt modding, or something
dreamy chasm
but the cooler i have is way overkill for the cpu
Ryzen 5000 benefits a lot from having a beefy cooler regardless of the SKU, since their frequency scales with temp, I'm sure you're fine lol
Plus, it's quiet, so 
blazing summit
one thing i hate is cable management though, truthfully it looks like a haystack in the back of my case
especially with rgb and fan controllers
dreamy chasm
You kiinda have to preplan it for it to look clean in the back
But, nobody has to know... right?
blazing summit
its just difficult with the case i have and non modular psu
dreamy chasm
Ah, yeah.
I have a modular one but it still ended up being a pain
Granted, I have one of those two compartment itx cases
They're... not exactly comfortable to build in by any stretch
blazing summit
i have this
blazing summit
that looks cramped o.o
blazing summit
i'm assuming that the psu is modular?
dreamy chasm
Yeah
blazing summit
would be a nightmare if it was non modular xD
dreamy chasm
I only ended up leaving two cables out, but that's two less I need to stuff inside
blazing summit
i'm thinking of getting a change of case though since i just dont like the top mesh and aesthetic of the front, looks better on the marketing than in person
either a 4000D or a lian li 011 dynamic
overused but for a reason, they're easy to build in roomy and look decent
dreamy chasm
Yeah
The nzxt flow is apparently pretty good too
I'm not caught up on the case market though
blazing summit
i think cases though are subjective to the person really, but the only reason i dont like the NZXT cases is the single fan grill at the top of the case
i'm usually someone that goes fan overload
dreamy chasm
I see, fair
dreamy chasm
Man, is that board having issues?
dreamy chasm
Tragic, considering the asking price lol
teal fable
he basically reckons that thing is the wrong way
dreamy chasm
Yikes
teal fable
when i look at mine its got different numbers on it
blazing summit
just when i thought the fires would end
was some gpus with new world, gigabyte with a variant of their psu's now certain motherboards
teal fable
Mine
dreamy chasm
Companies now source components from different manufacturers as long as they fit a specific specification nowadays
Due to the component shortages
teal fable
i see well if that is the issue causing the fires, then mine looks on to the reference pics he has in his video
old jetty
so I have an issue with laptop and was wondering if anyone could help
basically, I have 2 graphic cards on it (nvidia and intel integrated one), and since apparently my laptop monitor is hooked up to the intel integrated one, I can't force vsync trough nvidia control panel. Normally games come with their own vsync set up, but on some other where this is missing/badly implemented, it results in the screen tearing up quite badly
so I was wondering if there was a way to switch the laptop graphic card to nvidia... or just enforce vsync trough other means
dreamy chasm
See if you can disable optimus on your laptop https://jarrods.tech/how-to-turn-off-optimus-on-your-gaming-laptop/
old jetty
doesn't seem there to be a setting to disable it
potent arrow
It really was, lmao.
awwwww
thats scary
also hello fellow sff pc
heres my smol build
can for scale
dreamy chasm
sff buddies 
modest moss
and there's a special place in hell reserved for that guy who has the obscure error and comes back to reply to themselves with just 'nm figured it out' without posting the fix
can literally feel my fury gathering as I think about it
deep sapphire
and there's a special place in hell reserved for that guy who has the obscure er...
Or the fix is attached to an old photobucket upload which because they decided to fuck all of the legacy web you can’t view it anymore
modest moss
ugh this is triggering af
deep sapphire
I remember I had a really strange issue with windows 7 not letting me delete a partition to reinstall windows and battled that with old forum posts because this was like 2016 and all of the posts were from 2009 as it was my old boss’s PC and his system had an i7 920 haha
I think the fix was ultimately using a different USB drive but it had something to do with the south bridge chipset not recognizing specific makes of USB drives was really strange
the pig outfit
hard drift
how small are you trying for?
kindred brook
mine is on the second window
so something like this on my main scrreen
would be nice
hard drift
that's a special thing
hold on let me send it
once you extract that, go to overlayplugin.dll under plugins and for url click the 3 dots
then under the build64bit-build-resources pick one that you like
kindred brook
Thanks
hard drift
np
the only problem is the icons don't work for some of them as i don't have updated ones
https://github.com/awSweeney/FFXIV-ACT-Rainbow-Mage-Overlays here's the updated ones i think
okay, just copy those files and paste inside resources for working images
that got it working for me although idk if it has sage/rpr
kindred brook
TY TY
deep sapphire
off topic, no fucks given
Based
sly elk
one of my best friends at work memorized that meme ages ago lol
deep sapphire
Lmao classic
potent arrow
off topic, no fucks given
Is this the fucking watch dogs pig
@deep sapphire is that you in your PFP and why is it exactly what I imagined
dreamy chasm
lmfao
opal panther
modest moss
Wife crocheted my character for my bday
potent arrow
Lmfao that's adorable
haughty plover
Is there any advantage at all graphically (or performance-wise) to having dual GPUs nowadays?
Say if someone had 2x 3090s in a given rig.
latent grotto
Wouldn't be helpful for gaming
haughty plover
I wouldn't have thought so either. Because it's not like software nowadays will be like "oh hey, 2 cards? Now look at all the enhanced graphic options that were originally locked."
If anything, the only utility would be to split the load for streaming is all I can think of.
latent grotto
Or if you run vms
heady forge
I need help choosing a VPN
deep sapphire
I need help choosing a VPN
Just use any of the common ones
Nord, express, PIA are all fine
deep sapphire
I wouldn't have thought so either. Because it's not like software nowadays will ...
In theory yes however driver support and support from developers has waned significantly over the years and if it’s not directly supported you end up with wonky issues like frame pacing/stuttering, poor performance scaling between the 2 GPUs or crashes
modest moss
if it's just for pay as you go gaming, I've seen mudfish recommended, and they have a trial
haughty plover
I once saw an image on r/pcmasterrace where someone had apparently recovered an Alienware chassis meant for garbage. Final pic had 3x RTX cards fitted into its weird hexagonal case design.
And that was the source of my curiosity.
sly elk
I remember that post
didn't it have a set of 980tis or something
and then they tossed an older card in to make it have 3
that area 51 was the last good alienware they made
haughty plover
Hmm, maybe. They were rather beefy looking cards.
They probably seemed beefy perhaps because the case was so small.
sly elk
there were a couple of revisions to it
but the case is very large lol
for a prebuilt tower, anyway
I don't think it's any bigger than a full tower
but yea, it has a full size atx board and stuff. the only thing I can find fault with is that 120mm aio
especially since it looks like it could have taken a 240mm easily
maybe even a 360mm if they had done it correctly
the other thing I find gross is it has an x299 board with 4 ram slots
my old aurora r4 is just like that! x79 board with 4 ram slots. they should have 8.
all of the auroras after that use a weird proprietary board, probably the same thing they use in the optiflex
you bought one to shuck the gpu?
ooo
imho prebuilts are fine as long as you are never planning to upgrade it and don't mind it being noisier than what you could build
(and most people don't build particularly quiet computers either)
come to think of it, that alienware tower there probably has a like 1100w power supply
dull garnet
That's hideous
haughty plover
May be hideous, but Alienware was the lead cutting edge prebuilt before the PC scene really began to explode into the popularity it is now.
dull garnet
Proprietary bs
sly elk
but i have weird taste in cases 😄
like when I bought my inwin 915, I settled on it because I couldn't find a 909 in stock anywhere.
it was a blessing in disguise because afaik that case is a nightmare to build in
untold onyx
Is there any advantage at all graphically (or performance-wise) to having dual G...
Not really, the gain is marginal at best even with games that can handle it smoothly and most can't.
modest moss
ew
modest moss
I'm the opposite, I like stuff like the antec 300
plain black, nothing fancy, no rgb, no tempered glass panels
sly elk
I still would like an asus helios gundam >>
modest moss
just big and fairly well vented
sly elk
haughty plover
This is the case I have right now. Fractal Design R5. Mine does not have the tempered glass panel.
modest moss
nice, plain
sly elk
hmmm
haughty plover
I didn't care for RGB. Probably never will.
sly elk
I'm not sure there was ever atime where I'd want one of those
if it's plain, I want it to be very durable
(actually I always want that)
modest moss
I just don't have any interest in looking at my pc, other than the output on a screen
sly elk
on my tacky looking inwin nothing rattles or flexes because the metal parts are very thick
the antec 300 looks like it has nice thumbscrews for holding the sides on, at least
modest moss
it does
sly elk
when it comes to plain, I miss the old lian lis
like that
especially when the whole thing was made out of aluminum
haughty plover
I do envy those "cool" cases that look aerodynamic and stuff. But even I know better that function > form.
sly elk
i bet you could drum on the side door
modest moss
that's nice
haughty plover
The only thing I don't like about my Fractal case is that the other side is rather small and narrow.
Cable management is super tight and the SSD mounts are hard to work with. Have to undo the mobo to make changes/adjustments.
sly elk
the hard part is getting a case with an interesting shape that doesn't have bad airflow
I especially dislike cases where it's just a box and the only style was done to a tacky looking plastic front panel
I was looking at silverstone just now for lols, they sometimes have very clean designs. but this one fits that description perfectly. If you took the front panel off it could be mistaken for any case.
hahaha inwin is at it again
paper tusk
sly elk
in black it reminds me of a random japanese appliance
sly elk
but this color theme
teal fable
Looks like Lego theme
sly elk
i also like this one, it's just a box, and it looks like the ventilation probably sucks, but it's got a neat design
oh EW
they attached the side panels with 4 thumbscrews
I hate that!
i like the kind that have a latch
modest moss
that last one isn't terrible
modern iris
I have a serious issue with FF14 since around November. Whenever I enter the game, I walk around for like 5 seconds before my internet quite literally crashes. I have good internet and this only happens with FF14, exclusively. I have around 30ms ping on pretty much anything else I play
My wifi completely disconnects for about 1 minute then reboots, and only crashes again when I try to enter the game again. haven't been able to try endwalker yet because of this issue
sly elk
your internet crashes? like your router dies?
modern iris
My wifi disconnects and reads "no internet" for like a minute
I cannot try a wired connection due to the layout of my house, but it's not the issue as it doesn't happen with any other game
sly elk
does the wifi continue to work on your other computers/devices when this happens?
deep sapphire
Try doing a Speedtest and see if it crashes again
Maybe it’s getting overloaded and the network interface controller is going bad
Or possibly driver
You can also check event viewer and see if any logs were generated by windows signifying any device driver issues
modern iris
"Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9560 160MHz : The network adapter has returned an invalid value to the driver."
It only happens with FF14
my internet is flawless when playing pretty much anything else
But I do have that error a bunch of times in a row in the last hour (which is when I was trying to play again)
There's also a bunch of these
"Intel(R) Wireless-AC 9560 160MHz : Has encountered an internal error and has failed."
sly elk
that particular wifi chipset has a loooooooot of similar complaints
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/windows-10-and-windows-11-wi-fi-drivers-for-intel-wireless-adapters.html?product=99446
you can try updating the driver, perhaps
some people specifically had luck with 21.40.2.2 but I can't find a download of that one
ultimately i'd suggest using a different wifi card
it's possible your wifi card's driver sucks at doing whatever ffxiv wants to do (like open tons of connections :D)
modern iris
Well I play plenty of other online games including MMOs and this really only happens with FF14
The drivers are updated to the latest
And I was able to play FF14 just fine for years
This started happening only a few months ago, seemingly out of nowhere
Tried using that driver, still having the same problem
heady forge
U guys recommend surfshark? It's cheaper, and I hear it competes well with expressvpn
In speed
deep sapphire
Well I play plenty of other online games including MMOs and this really only hap...
Well the only other thing I can recommend is to use a WiFi adapter for now
modern iris
My pc does have adapters on the back of it
Is that what u mean
The little antenna things?
deep sapphire
If trying other drivers fails to resolve the issue not much more you can do about it other than using a USB or PCI-E WiFi adapter
Nah it would be separate from the motherboard
modern iris
Huh I'm pretty sure they are adapters though
They're these little USB things
Looks like this
Regardless I'm 100% certain it has nothing to do with my wifi specifically
I'm literally playing WoW right now while watching a twitch stream just fine
But FFXIV specifically just crashes my wifi
deep sapphire
Well if your driver crashes due to another application there isn’t much you can do about it it’s a software related issue not hardware
It can work fine for some things and not others
modern iris
Even if it's literally just one application? I play dozens of online games on this PC
deep sapphire
Also if you have another WiFi adapter then use that. I thought you meant the one built into your motherboard (assuming it has WiFi)
modern iris
But I've also tried many different drivers
sly elk
my completely crap guess
something's hitting memory it shouldn't
either ffxiv is, or the drivier for your wifi card is
modern iris
Uhh what would be the fix for that
Also worth mentioning I played ff14 for years just fine before this started happening
Never had any issues until a few months ago and now it always does this
sly elk
I hear ya
you could try running ffxiv in a vm
or run linux + ffxiv on proton or something and see if the issue persists. that's probably more effort than it's worth
this is on a desktop, right?
sly elk
the reason I asked was in case the 'get another wifi card' was unreasonable 😄
deep sapphire
You can check dxdiag and look a the bottom to see if Ffxiv shows a fault
You’ll have to google the codes it produces but if other people have similar results you can see if someone else found a resolution to it
I’m not at my PC rn or id try to help you in more detail
modern iris
+++ WER9 +++:
Fault bucket 1758821497820503051, type 5
Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0
Problem signature:
P1: ffxiv_dx11.exe
P2: 1.0.0.0
P3: 10.0.19042.2.0.0
P4:
P5:
P6:
P7:
P8:
P9:
P10:
i have no clue how to read any of this
dreamy chasm
You could try using a VPN and tunneling just ffxiv through it
modern iris
Any decent free VPNs?
dreamy chasm
Windscribe is solid, but has a 10 gig cap
FF doesn't use up much data if you direct the app to tunnel just that game though
modern iris
Guess it can't hurt to try, thanks
dreamy chasm
No worries
Once you have it installed, go to settings and set up split tunneling, then direct it to the FF14 exe
And not the launcher
modern iris
Will do. Gonna finish something up and then will test it and let you know if it works
dreamy chasm
Why are you crossfiring high end skus for a game that's a decade old
deep sapphire
it'll just BSOD twice as much now
I dont recall XIV ever having good scaling
I would research it first before committing because I remember when they added SLI support it only gave me 60 percent scaling on both cards
maybe its better now I dunno
but SLI is usually more reliable than CFX
they arent mutual
hard drift
waiting for <@!168185424286711808>
😒 i was making dinner
you can't as far as i'm aware without using dx12/vulkan for multi gpu since they removed official support
not to mention at 4k it's a waste
3090 would be overkill for the game especially sli
i run 4k just fine for 2 games at a time using a 6900xt
sly elk
neat way to power a gpu i guess 😄
that sounds naaaaais
that better not be central computers lol
amazon has a 6800xt for 1595 if you're in the US
ahhh ok
was going to say!
deep sapphire
amazon has a 6800xt for 1595 if you're in the US
thats a lot of money to throw in the trash
sly elk
i dunno
if you wanan talk about throwing money in the trash, there's a few nice power supplies I can show you 😄
deep sapphire
just buy it already
I bet you set it as your desktop wallpaper
I dont blame you
made me hot too
sly elk
LOL
nope
corsair and evga are the only companies likely to pay to replace any hardware the PSU destroys if it explodes
untold onyx
Waste of money. Even if you can get rock solid compatibility (which is unlikely as most companies just don't bother anymore) you might get a 40% gain. maybe
hard drift
i mean over a 1080ti you'd get a decent gain just for 1 card alone
it's the desire for crossfire/sli that kills you lol
sly elk
ya gotta wonder what they're up to here
$799
it's gotta be a scam lol
i was hoping to find the picture where they have 1 for sale and they've got 50 in the background
like ebayers like to do
hard drift
it's the non lhr that makes those appealing to miners 
dreamy chasm
They'd sell it faster if they segmented the 3090s
sly elk
yea I got really good money for my non lhr 3070 on ebay >>
the buyer was so salty about it they didn't leave feedback
dreamy chasm
What, lol
sly elk
the worst part about that was I didn't even charge that much
dreamy chasm
Why would they be salty
hard drift
the non lhr is good though
sly elk
lol I saw their previous feedback to other sellers
tbh they did me a favor not putting feedback
hard drift
get a high res mod first
hard drift
there's quite a few
none that do the whole game as far as i know but there's things for models/hair/face etc
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016>
Lmao
dull garnet
hard drift
nah you still see it lmao
hard drift
i need the ray traced shader again 
what settings do you have for it so i can see just the ray traced and how big the drop is
for where?
no but what setting are you doing for this
so i can see if it would be worth upgrading for you
even in open areas?
and that's with all those on?
hard drift
i go from 130->70 with all of them on
using a 6900xt so a single card should be fine
i was missing 1-2 shaders
the quint stuff mainly
i just got the ray traced one again
np
in a town though it'd be killer lmao
sly elk
that's super pretty!
man I really should get my cnj above 15 so it can have better looking clothes xD
hard drift
just glam level one stuff 😎
modest moss
yes just glam yourself into a level 1 limsa fuckboi like @deep sapphire
deep sapphire
!me
modest moss
yas
deep sapphire
Yeah bidori
deep sapphire
hard drift
i haven't had a bsod since i got rid of my 5700xt
and i have 3 dedicated lmao
trust me i know it's literally just navi 1 being shit
sly elk
lol I also learned daisy chaining was bad
hard drift
sadly my brother has had 0 issues with it and his is daisy chained
deep sapphire
dull garnet
!me
modest moss
you people are on the wrong dc though
sly elk
!me
sly elk
i have motivation to work on it now XD
modest moss
you're an actual newbie?
sly elk
si
sly elk
i appreciate the offer XD
modest moss
maybe 6.1 but I'm not holding my breath
yeah I still won't be able to play with my wife on EU
shame as she's much richer than me lol
hard drift
you can't atm
dull garnet
I played ew one session so far
modest moss
I'm pretty settled on Cactuar, been there since ARR
dull garnet
cba to q m8. Sort it out se
modest moss
just log on early and don't log out until bedtime
dull garnet
no
dull garnet
Its all so tiresome
modest moss
runic bluff
Hello, I'm having a difficulty launching ff14 i keep getting this when i log in
i can not update direct x any more than i already have
deep sapphire
Hello, I'm having a difficulty launching ff14 i keep getting this when i log in
have you updated your graphics drivers
runic bluff
not in a few weeks, but i was just playing an hour ago haha
runic bluff
ill go do that after this reinstall goes through
deep sapphire
oh okay
runic bluff
oh gosh its downloading slowly haha
10mb at most with fiber download 😮
in report back in later 😛
deep sapphire
SE's launcher is worse than ford vehicles
boreal surge
Considering toyota has a WRC program they could have come up with a not so lame name
modest moss
@deep sapphire my cousin's husband is a multi championship winning racing driver
chevy never even placed, ever
woven pine
Wait, is it routing to Tokyo before going to NA
analog panther
Any reason I would be experiencing hyper lag in Limsa Lominsa Upper Decks even when it seems totally abandoned? It took me 10 minutes to switch a class.
deep sapphire
Wait, is it routing to Tokyo before going to NA
Ngl that’s what it looks like lmao
analog panther
I'm on PS4 so I don't have quite as many options for reducing graphics so what can I do
deep sapphire
Does this occur in every area?
Gear sets are stored locally so if it took that long to swap it might indicate hard drive issues but I don’t know if this is a random issue that just happened and in only that zone
latent grotto
Wait, is it routing to Tokyo before going to NA
are you in asia or something?
woven pine
are you in asia or something?
Yes, Hong Kong right now
deep sapphire
Well that would be why
latent grotto
then thats not surprising
latent grotto
if you were in na and still routing through jp i'd ask if you had a vpn or something
deep sapphire
Yeah that was my next guess
Well first guess
Until I looked up who that ISP is
woven pine
Just wondering if it's the hotel's network or a routing problem so I did a tracert
deep sapphire
I thought you were in America
So I was like mega confused
Nah that seems like a normal route
Hotel internet is always shit
latent grotto
yea i'd expect it to pass through jp since they're basically in between hong kong and california
woven pine
I tried using my phone's hotspot but it's still not good enough
kindred brook
fervent field
I tried using my phone's hotspot but it's still not good enough <:haha:240841245...
have you tried mudfish? might fix the routing
teal fable
HM i dunno what gshade is ;.;
jaunty light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOOJGI3J9c
knew what it was before opening.. but sheesh, didn't realize the pads on the FEs were that skimped
modern iris
@sly elk @deep sapphire Just to let you guys know, I found the solution to my issue finally.. and it was the most arcane shit ever lol. Here's a reddit post explaining it, in case someone comes here with that issue again: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/ejanpk/solved_intel_wireless_ac_9560_5ghz_connection/
Both the 20hz solution (in the post) and the 802.11n solution (in the comments) work for me
boreal surge
So I'm assuming is that your adapter possibly reading from too wide a frequency and that's possibly causing interference/your adapter doesn't support it?
modern iris
No clue, but I only ever had issues when playing FF14 specifically, every other online game causes no issues at all. It's strange
green aspen
Microsoft has already used passwordless accounts now and I just tried it. Just need Google to adopt that, and I wonder if video games in general could utilize that to reduce the odds of password reliance for game accounts in general?
time for nvidia to one up amd lol
deep sapphire
<https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-to-introduce-radeon-super-resolution-rsr-techno...
They already have
The drivers work with every game
hard drift
The drivers work with every game
that's not on upping amd when nvidia themselves is trying to get dlss to be the one and only 
deep sapphire
that's not on upping amd when nvidia themselves is trying to get dlss to be the ...
I AM THE ONE AND ONLY
hard drift
oh gosh i've heard this song
deep sapphire
okay ford driver <:smug:627219798983704588>
It took 4 attempts to start my truck this morning because it was that cold
hard drift
smh
jaunty light
This man's battery is weeping
teal fable
honestly pissing me off how oc has ram in stock and has done for a few weeks now and ebuyer hasnt got any
deep sapphire
Hank still moaning about a slight chill
SLIGHT CHILL
deep sapphire
Diesels sitting outside without block heaters
Accurate
dull garnet
wam
teal fable
Ah well overclockers will be out of stock by then
And then by the time it’s sorted lol I’ll regret the refund
hard drift
isn't overclockers a major one vs ebuyers?
dull garnet
overclockers postage is way too much
my scan account is linked to some avforums promotion so i get free postage on orders over 100. generally i'll just buy wherever is cheapest though, store loyalty is dumb
hard drift
agreed
modest moss
isn't overclockers a major one vs ebuyers?
they're both fairly big, but not big enough to not be scummy
hard drift
rip
modest moss
ebuyer may be bigger, they've been around longer I think
hard drift
i've just heard of overclockers a lot more so i figured it was the bigger one therefore more likely to have stock
dull garnet
ebuyer gave me the impression of a more general but larger operation whereas ocuk always felt more enthusiast focused
modest moss
yeah speedy is right
hard drift
but why
modest moss
because he kept quiet and scammed a retailer/delivery company
bragging about fraud doesn't make you look cool
hard drift
^
modest moss
hope they figure it out and sue you tbh
hard drift
i mean you could be honest but you chose not to
modest moss
you knew you had your goods and didn't tell them
don't try and spin it like you're innocent lol
hard drift
🤨 that makes you the bad guy
modest moss
you saw an opportunity to steal, what do you expect people to say
deep sapphire
Yeah that’s fucked up you should give me the other one
hard drift
literally the mentality of a thief
hard drift
Yeah that’s fucked up you should give me the other one
don't encourage illegal/bad behavior lol
deep sapphire
Guys calm down
Fuck sakes
You would’ve done the same if someone delivered you 2 items when you only paid for 1
hard drift
nah, i've had that happen before and i still return the crap i don't need two it literally is a waste of space
modest moss
no, he was delivered one item, and then he had them deliver another
deep sapphire
Oh…
modest moss
and you lied and said you didn't get it
modest moss
no dude, that's a bullshit excuse to justify to yourself the fact you're a thief
modest moss
I don't care either, but don't brag about it, have some fucking shame/dignity/whatever
literal theft
deep sapphire
Oh well
modest moss
this isn't 'they put in 2 extra nuggets in my happy meal'
deep sapphire
I’m not for dog piling on people he can feel guilty with his 2nd 3080 if he wants
deep sapphire
Yeah as in I’m not gonna jump in personally to give him shit lmao I don’t care what you 2 do I’m just not going to participate
modest moss
you kinda just did bro
deep sapphire
Shue go have a cigarette
hard drift
you literally said "Weird case design with a hinged swing-out glass panel. But I now have 2x 3080s" like you weren't expecting it
therefore it's a subtle brag to look cool
teal fable
Ordered some ram
deep sapphire
I think it’s best we all just drop this
hard drift
except you literally are using an opportunity to steal and making it seem like "it's their issue not mine" when you still are at fault
teal fable
I didn’t order from winter or overclockers
deep sapphire
What’s wrong with overclockers
dull garnet
good job on getting a free PC my guy
modest moss
where did you order?
deep sapphire
I thought they were decent
modest moss
they're scummy scalping bastards who accept preorders they have no way of fulfilling
deep sapphire
Oh shit
dull garnet
wait i need to find the meme
dull garnet
deep sapphire
Pocketed people’s money yet never even had any product to sell
Pretty cringe
This is why credit cards are nice, if they pull that shit you can do a charge back and it’s a lot easier to deal with than debit
dull garnet
they're scummy scalping bastards who accept preorders they have no way of fulfil...
lol, my friend cancelled his 3080 order after gibbo claimed they were unlikely to be able to fulfil it
then about 3 months later they got a bunch of cards in
which they then sold at an inflated rate of course
deep sapphire
God bless
modest moss
they had people waiting so long
dull garnet
he'd already paid about 200 above msrp
but then it became more like 500
my guy still using a 980 Ti
latent grotto
i'm going to say something cursed
teal fable
@shue scan
deep sapphire
Gross
I’m on my lunch break please don’t make me sick to my stomach
If it’s AMD I don’t want to see them
teal fable
And instead of getting 4800mhz ddr5 I got 5600mhz
teal fable
And my order had already been picked lolol
deep sapphire
God AMD buying ATI was the dumbest business decision in tech history
It’s amazing they stayed afloat through the last decade after that deal
hard drift
God AMD buying ATI was the dumbest business decision in tech history
is this more to your liking
deep sapphire
Hector ruiz what a dumbass
No like seriously
They fuckin paid
6.5 billion dollars
Which at the time
They were barely worth even more than that
dull garnet
deep sapphire
So because of that dumbass deal
dull garnet
deep sapphire
They had no capital to compete
deep sapphire
Remember ATI literally just released that dogshit card the X1950 and the Phenom X4 was a total bust
I think had they not bought ATI
dull garnet
hard drift
is it the nvidia logo
modest moss
what's your steam username again?
hard drift
https://youtu.be/nkDkC_Di5TE
remember, nvidia hosted the 1.0 benchmark for ffxiv
teal fable
order dispatched!!
deep sapphire
Kepler was a let down
hard drift
https://youtu.be/nkDkC_Di5TE
crashes in the video
dull garnet
gotta go fast
autumn mural
I almost got excited then I saw those were 1080s
dull garnet
yea my friend has a 770 and its basically trash
autumn mural
I have a 1080, it will not save you 😩 It's tolerable but it's aging quickly.
hard drift
why do you have 3 1080ti....
hard drift
not to mention you paid the strix tax 😭
hard drift
ah rip
dull garnet
why'd you buy old cards
dull garnet
i still don't get it
autumn mural
I mean MSRP was $600 at launch, $400 5 years later isn't... A good deal?
deep sapphire
The 1080Ti was 649.99 USD, no way they were 1200 CAD maybe 800 lol
hard drift
it's purely because it's a strix card lmao
dull garnet
asus soy boy tax
autumn mural
( Yeah, 699 USD for the TI, my bad )
Just because they are expensive now doesn't make it a good deal, they are still dated cards and bridging technology doesn't really add much performance
dull garnet
man those 8800 GTX sure were reliable
deep sapphire
man those 8800 GTX sure were reliable
deep sapphire
That era of anything sucked because the government banned lead solder
deep sapphire
Lead free solder was horrible at that time
dull garnet
it worked long enough to sell it to a used computer retailer
deep sapphire
Both the PS3 and 360 had issues with BGA solder
dull garnet
deep sapphire
Based
dull garnet
Both the PS3 and 360 had issues with BGA solder
i think the PS3 thing has been largely disproven as a different issue but certainly for the 360
failure rate was close to 50% for 360 at one point
deep sapphire
I know it was a cooling issue and I could’ve swore they had BGA cracks as well just not as bad as the 360
My PS3 got the yellow light
dull garnet
even shitty geforce go chips would cook themselves
deep sapphire
Somehow my 360 Elite never ringed
The 8600M
An infamous time
Apple is still pissed at nvidia
dull garnet
I guess especially so on the Air, where there is no fan
deep sapphire
The Max supposedly gets pretty toasty
dull garnet
ah right
deep sapphire
But they only tested it under synthetic load
deep sapphire
I’m sure a majority of the time it’s fine
I mean how else do they get 20 hours of run time no way it generates that heat and achieves that battery life
Which is still ludicrous they were able to pull that off
Sure PC specs can be faster but good luck getting maybe 2 hours lmao
If I had a need for a MacBook I wouldn’t be opposed to owning one
Too bad I’m selling my soul to a Toyota dealership tomorrow
dull garnet
yeah i don't need a m1 air but it would be nice
dull garnet
dull garnet
practically an ute
modest moss
Yeah I’m a mechanic
handyman*
deep sapphire
modest moss
janitor basically
deep sapphire
I’m gonna kill you
hard drift
amd direct is shit, also canada is cheaper can't find the exact same one but using this as an example canada being the ventus and the gaming z trio being the US
even newegg is cheaper
deep sapphire
Best Buy sells the founders edition at MSRP I thought
hard drift
even the scalped cards are cheaper than the scalped ones here
hard drift
Best Buy sells the founders edition at MSRP I thought
it's the only place that can sell founders so yeah
hard drift
here you go, this is the US ventus, canada is cheaper by about 130ish usd
hard drift
Nice blanket
those are pants
i think
they look like pj pants with the split near the legs
latent grotto
Only Sarah will know
deep sapphire
I dunno looks like a blanket to me lmao but yeah
hard drift
deep sapphire
https://canadaweathergear.com/products/320-1013-60 my mom got me this for Christmas
God damn it’s warm
hard drift
lol
modest moss
And you expect me to do my brakes outside
deep sapphire
IT FUCKIN IS
YOUR SKIN HURTS AFTER A MINUTE
Fuckin jets fans coming down when they play the wild
How can you say such a thing
Hockey is awesome
deep sapphire
Nothing better than spending 60 dollars in overpriced beer at a game
potent arrow
I am wearing a blanket tho
hard drift
i called it!
potent arrow
And a flannel
deep sapphire
Hey me too
I wear carhartt flannels for work
Nice shirts
Even if they are overpriced because carhartt became a fashion statement I guess
dull garnet
haha, yeah...
I was looking for a plain black carhartt hoodie recently and damn
$$$
deep sapphire
Yeah it’s brutal
But they are well made
So I guess it’s worth it for some of their stuff
dull garnet
well there's like the "fashion" side and the "workwear" side
dull garnet
and for some reason availability is spotty in blighty
deep sapphire
I’m sure the normie shit sucks
Plus their website is so bad
I spent hours trying to order these because they kept disappearing from my cart and then I couldn’t find them again on the site
Like wtf lmao
Haha
TWICE EVEN
I feel bad for Vancouver fans
They’re such a mediocre team
Like if they were flat out bad they could Atleast get draft picks but no let’s sit in the bottom middle every season so we can go no where and not build anything
Minnesota got lucky with kaprizov
Kid is a fuckin beast
Probably the best player in the game rn
Lmao
Like
This is the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen
Just a no look back handed pass
modest moss
hockey is easily the best 'NA' sport
deep sapphire
Hockey IMO is more of a world game but I suppose mostly American with NHL being the biggest and most popular franchise
But the KHL is pretty huge too
modest moss
that was why the quotes
but american football, basketball, baseball, hockey, those are the sports that the rest of the world see as americans caring about
deep sapphire
I love baseball but I can see why a lot don’t
You have to be a stat nerd to enjoy it
modest moss
baseball is dull af
hard drift
you want to kill the cards don't you
modest moss
I tried to get into it many years back but nah
dull garnet
any brit that cares about yank sports sucks
deep sapphire
I think baseball has the best post season though because it can go either way and it makes you sit on the edge of your seat
Plus it doesn’t drag on that long
NHL like fuckin Christ
Way too many teams make it in
Just drags on forever
hard drift
that's acceptable
teal fable
200 cheaper than overclockers
hard drift
3090s are awful to cool active backplates as well as the main block
robust basalt
guys, what is the "normal" price for a 3080 ?
hard drift
700 is msrp
dull garnet
£649
modest moss
200 cheaper than overclockers
buying DDR5, madness
robust basalt
do you believe we see that price in early 2022 ?
hard drift
no
dull garnet
hahahahahahahahaha
deep sapphire
until something is done about scalpers and bots no
robust basalt
this is so sad. when i was watching the reveal show i got really hyped
autumn mural
They need to be banned across the board on all major sites but the sites make too much money from fees charged to scalpers so that won't happen 😩
deep sapphire
It’s a rough time to be a gamer in general everything gets scalped so fast
teal fable
Yup
hard drift
this is so sad. when i was watching the reveal show i got really hyped
not to mention the 3000 series refresh is coming soon and intel/amd stuff
modest moss
buy a used 3080 when the miners move up to the 4000 series
modest moss
they still do it
robust basalt
yeah but then games already need the 40xx series probably
deep sapphire
I wanna blame miners but I feel scalpers are a bigger issue but that’s my opinion
teal fable
Buy a 3080 that’s already used half it’s life span
autumn mural
I'm with you. Miners incite a bit of rage but the scalpers are definitely the issue.
dull garnet
Buy a 3080 that’s already used half it’s life span
that isn't a thing
deep sapphire
This market exploitation bullshit needs to end and the government needs to step in
robust basalt
is there a way to prevent them from mass buying stuff ?
teal fable
Government are still earning why would they step in
robust basalt
i mean, if i see one IP adress buying 1000 gpus...
dull garnet
blame Nvidia for selling huge allocations of product to the highest bidder tbh
damn you capitalism
hard drift
is there a way to prevent them from mass buying stuff ?
not really, there's ways but there's also ways around it
robust basalt
yeah. thought so
deep sapphire
Because it’s their job, I’m not debating the Symantecs of government
Nor am I going to get political about it, but they have a duty to protect its citizens regardless what people think
robust basalt
do you think nvidia will do this again ?
hard drift
lmao yes
dull garnet
whatever makes the shareholders happy
hard drift
where there's a chance to make money companies will capitalize
dull garnet
they're all that matter
robust basalt
but why "now". haven`t had problems with 20xx gpu iirc
hard drift
there wasn't covid then
dull garnet
eth price
hard drift
not to mention a ton of other factors
modest moss
crypto increased, covid happened, the silicon shortage, the 3000 promotional material
smush that all together
robust basalt
i have a decent rig here next to me. i saved money but damn i won`t pay 2k for a 3080
deep sapphire
The only problem with that is when it crashes now the market is saturated with used cards and nvidia will struggle to sell them
hard drift
The only problem with that is when it crashes now the market is saturated with u...
good
dull garnet
nah people are like
deep sapphire
That’s exactly what happened with the 20 series even though it also didn’t help it was underwhelming
dull garnet
OMGZ A USED VIDEO CARD IT MUST BE NEARLY DEAD
deep sapphire
Nvidia shot themselves in the foot by making a product that was priced too good
Which was the 1080Ti
deep sapphire
Yeah and at launch it was an absolute bargain
robust basalt
i remember him saying the 3070 for what ? 600$. i was like. wow
deep sapphire
And was nearly as fast as a 2080 and sometimes faster
hard drift
3070 is 500 isn't it?
robust basalt
or 500 maybe yes.
deep sapphire
The 2080Ti was just nvidia being greedy
dull garnet
1080 ti came a year later fwiw
hard drift
yeah, 500 for the 3070
deep sapphire
The performance gap of the 2080 vs 2080Ti was a joke
hard drift
not to mention the price increase vs the 1080ti
deep sapphire
They literally took a titan card and called it a gamer card
Biggest cash grab ever
dull garnet
ahem 3090
hard drift
and then removed the titan drivers making it a pure gaming card rather than professional
deep sapphire
The 3090 isn’t a good value but Atleast the performance gap isn’t as bad in comparison to a 3080
The 3080 at MSRP is a decent value
hard drift
it's worth even less now
dull garnet
that makes no sense
modest moss
so you're using sli to keep up with games that devs make for a single gpu
dull garnet
one strong card is always better than two weaker ones due to poor scalability
you're wasting electricity
modest moss
this sounds like a false economy
dull garnet
definitely makes more sense in applications like that
sly elk
mm i haven't worn a jacket in .. a long time...
sly elk
OMGZ A USED VIDEO CARD IT MUST BE NEARLY DEAD
to be fair, the number of 'RIP my friend' GPU posts on /r/pcmr with a 9 or 10 series GPU is straight up appalling
computer parts should never crap out that quickly
maybe they were aggressively OCing them
lol my bro uses my old 660
even better, it's a dell oem 660 😄
(along with the i7 3820 and msi x79 board my refurb alienware box from 2013 came with)
mmm racing stripes
I should paint white racing stripes on my jeep 😄
like the ones the viper has
icehunter you need to mix ML and robots
porsche 911 but the fancy racing one that costs a ton
how I knew one of my college friends is doing better than me
he bought a 911
when I was thinking about trading my jeep for a porsche a few years ago, I was planning to order a barebones cayman with like 2 options 😄
I still stand by that decision!
well, the thought of getting the porsche was exciting. but the thought of selling the jeep made me really sad
so I sold the jeep and bought a new one
and that time I custom ordered a rubicon with all the stuff I wanted. and then they came out with the 392 😄
luckily that came out a year later because I probably would've wanted it >>
huh
the kia carnival looks better than the telluride
-hides-
i mean it looks like a ford explorer....
i hate that style of c pillar though
jaunty light
Just buy da maybach
sly elk
i was confusing maybach for maserati for a second
i think maybach is my least favorite car brand of them all
it's so snotty
like "a rich people brand so obscure that nobody knows it even exists"
it's like buying an alpina
"nice bmw!" "no it's really an Alpina B7"
SO SNOTTY
yea they are very different haha
from what I gather from the reddit hivemind
if you want someone to call the cops on you when you enter the parking lot of the fancy golf course, get a maserati
I don't know why/how
but it seems to have earned a reputation as "the luxury car for ghetto new rich people"
because luxury car snobs are THE WORST
"Check out my new BMW!" "ew it's a 3 series. not even an m"
if you buy a ghibli they'll go nuts about how you just bought a chrysler 300
which to be fair
the ghibli uses the same basic platform
BUT! but! they stuck an italian engine in there
teal fable
So is this gshade thing a 3rd party mod ?
sly elk
and that's silly because the v6 is pretty reliable, at least for the first 10 years haha
dull garnet
a lot of effects look pretty gaudy
some make your ui elements look ass
when you say raytracing I guess you mean "raytracing"
teal fable
ah ok is there any other decent 3rd party stuff i can use for ff14? im just using the one atm
latent grotto
Theres act for parsing
indigo osprey
Hi, im not sure what could be causing these errors 
modest moss
Hi, im not sure what could be causing these errors <:SWEATSTINY:5324687504362700...
it could also be your drive is full or something is write protecting it, like onedrive
dull garnet
Burn onedrive down
kindred flare
how do i fix this
