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umbral moss
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but it's still a stupid topology because it relies on 40 teeny gauge wires

pseudo elm
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true. it's unfortunate that HDMI still has obvious limits. I've came across more faulty DP cables than HDMI cables.

umbral moss
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that's because DP doesn't charge a fee so it's much easier to make a shitty one that doesn't do anything

pseudo elm
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yep. even now, one of my DP cables I am using is not perfect. sometimes i boot up and there's no display, only workaround is to bend over behind the monitor; unplug and replug. its annoying lol

umbral moss
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based quality cable design

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if only there was a robust connector that used a single reinforced conductor

pseudo elm
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wtb hdmi cable that supports high refresh rates

umbral moss
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and was more than capable of handling the data rate over an effectively unlimited distance for most use cases

pseudo elm
umbral moss
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oh wait, there is

pseudo elm
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i dont think i ever came across a bad VGA cable

umbral moss
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the clock-based DVI/HDMI/DP regimes have strict timing requirements so you end up with the data shitting the bed after a few feet in most cables

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BNC gang pogianger

pseudo elm
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Once I move and have larger space I won't need such long cables.

umbral moss
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yeah, that's because the signal attenuation is bonkers on shitty cable stock

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it's even worse when the cable is demanding high frequency/bandwidth

wintry drift
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but is it worse than USB

umbral moss
pseudo elm
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I think it's unfortunate that modern GPUs only have 1 hdmi port. never understood that.

umbral moss
pseudo elm
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doubt we are talking much more though. nvidia already asking a lot at msrp anyways lol

odd sand
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Can HDMI 2.1 do 120hz 4K?

umbral moss
umbral moss
pseudo elm
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they are trolling at this point

umbral moss
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but the HDMI consortium apparently decided it's OK to have HDMI 2.1 labeling on the box and support zero HDMI 2.1 features

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👌

pseudo elm
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lets release a 2060 with more vram cause thats what the market wants, mhmmm

odd sand
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I mean, in their defense, the 2060 uses an older process that probably isn't in demand, so it's essentially "new capacity" and it's not any worse than the 1650s a lot of ppl are buying

umbral moss
# wintry drift techbro marketing

their logic is that you can't have HDMI 2.0 licensing anymore, so your device must be HDMI 2.1 compliant and it's on the consumer to figure out what features their bullshit device actually supports

modest moss
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oh I recognise BNC

wintry drift
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their logic
full stop

modest moss
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we call that coax here, use it for TV aerials

odd sand
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So they're a standard that isn't a standard... what are we paying them for?

pseudo elm
umbral moss
pseudo elm
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they should use the resource of the "new 2060" to just make more 3000 series.

umbral moss
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it's not like USB is any better with the 10 different versions of USB 3.0

modest moss
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someone said the extra vram makes it good for mining but idk

odd sand
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How? 3000 series are made on 7/8nm process and 2000 series is like 12nm

umbral moss
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quick, quick, if I bought a USB-C cable, what features does this cable actually support?

pseudo elm
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the leap from 1k to 2k series wasn't really that big.

modest moss
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it supports going in upside down

umbral moss
odd sand
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I agree. Which is why I didn't buy one bc it was basically just 1k series + the tensor cores heh

umbral moss
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the problem with decrepit standards bodies is that someone eventually goes "wow, this standard is bullshit" and develops a whole new standard

odd sand
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But they're already producing new 1030GTs over the last year+ so everything is already fucked

pseudo elm
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and im sure some people will eat it up "2060 has more vram than some 3000 series, this means 2060 is better"

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i bet some people actually think like this.

modest moss
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probably

odd sand
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At least they aren't trying to upmarket it as a new model. It's clearly labeled as a 2060 12GB as compared to the original 6GB

umbral moss
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since the ti4600 was like, actually pretty fuckin good for how simple it was and how small the die was

modest moss
odd sand
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Probably the latter, but I don't know for sure.

pseudo elm
odd sand
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GIven the naming scheme it's significantly worse than a 1050, which is saying something.

pseudo elm
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it reminds me of remastering old video games lol

umbral moss
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I'm still sad that AMD never allowed APUs to crossfire playdead

pseudo elm
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apu? omegalul

dull garnet
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Crossfire is dead ain't it

pseudo elm
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yes

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so is integrated graphics

umbral moss
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at the driver level it's dead

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because the driver sync stuff became too difficult for amd and nvidia to handle

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so they offloaded multi-GPU to directX, which DX12 supports but you have to write your whole-ass engine around enabling discrete multi-GPU at the hardware level

pseudo elm
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crossfire / sli was always a weird concept to me. i doubt its ever going to come back

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3090 already requires hella power. 4k series is going to be even more i imagine.

umbral moss
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SLI was great when it actually worked

pseudo elm
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introduced dual 4090s, recommended 2000w PSU

umbral moss
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the problem was that if one GPU fucked up a frame timing the entire thing would choke the driver and it would crash the whole graphics subsystem in the OS

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I had so many nvidia driver crashes from SLI when I had my 2x780 config, and practically zero when I went back to one GPU

pseudo elm
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yea back then it was great. but now it's ancient tech. considering power consumption of latest GPUs alone, it doesn't seem logical

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and with how powerful they are getting, the extra frames isn't really necessary imo

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sure, to me it's dead though

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most of the games i play would not run well on a igpu

deep sapphire
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When SLI worked well it was nice to have

pseudo elm
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also im amd this time around, which has no igpu

deep sapphire
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I remember I got near perfect scaling in BF3

modest moss
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igpu is fine for fb/yt/etc

pseudo elm
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ofc. if your not gaming then it doesn't matter what you have really if your just surfing the web.

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as i said earlier, to me it is dead.

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since i have not used a igpu since like, 2010

deep sapphire
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I’m happy for you

pseudo elm
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oh lord..

modest moss
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how about buy her a first aid kit so she can treat all your self inflicted injuries?

dull garnet
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Sli scalability was a joke at launch

odd sand
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I haven't renewed my first aid training in years

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In case a server rack falls on someone and they're crushed under 30 petabytes of storage?

modest moss
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they think if Sarah is first aid trained she can self-treat all her numerous workplace injuries and save them tens of thousands in insurance premiums

west burrow
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Anyone know a good, cheap option for mmo mouses?

modest moss
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how many extra buttons do you want?

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logitech g203 is cheap and awesome, has 2 extra buttons on the left

west burrow
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I have the g502 currently but i want more, especially with playing ff14

pseudo frigate
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does anyone know anything about dell poweredge servers xD?

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razer naga

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is ur only option really

jaunty light
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Weird I have 0 issues with any of my DP cables

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One's 15ft as well anya3c

odd sand
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Corsair also has the Scimitar which has like 12 buttons

west burrow
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Was looking at that or the g600

odd sand
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I always wonder how you accurately press a specific one in the heat of a fight

west burrow
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Probably just a feel thing if i had to guess, never used one yet

sly elk
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ahh the first aid kits at work are amazing

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they have eyedrops and pepto bismol and pain medicine and all kinds of stuff, besides the usual

odd sand
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Assuming people remember to refill them and/or put them back after using.

sly elk
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the company that supplies the cabinet sends someone every month or two I think

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it's always full 😄

sly elk
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lol

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admittedly since I work from home, the majority of my injuries would be too

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but I have cut myself a few times at work

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and banged my head on a few things too x_X

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well, more like bumping my head on the desk from getting out from under it

earnest sedge
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uhh I shutdown ffxiv and this message popped up

dull garnet
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yeah that happens sometimes

earnest sedge
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Seems like dx11 is acting up lately

paper tusk
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either a bug in xiv or one in windows 11

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drivers are usually the first suggetion but clean install does nothing

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so will have to live with it for now 😐

earnest sedge
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i see

fallen heart
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friend of mine is having this weird camera glitch

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its snapping character models and they move with the camera turning

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it has fixed itself, weird

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never mind its back

pseudo frigate
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sounds just like lag to me ngl lmao

sly elk
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camera glitches ftw

pseudo frigate
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i am looking

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for

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2.5inch

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euh

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not sure if SAS or sata

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🤔

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but they're hard to find bigger than 1tb lmao

glossy timber
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it took me a 2 minute search to find a 4gb 2.5inch sata ssd are you okay

modern iris
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4gb?

hard drift
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probably meant TB

sly elk
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could always get a compact flash adapter to make that happen

glossy timber
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tb yeah

pseudo frigate
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Biggest i found was 5tb tbh

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But out of stock everywhere

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And i aint gonna put ssds in my server

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Overpriced for what it can do lol

glossy timber
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Ah yes

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America

jaunty light
modest moss
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that fancy server you bought doesn't take 3.5" drives?

sly elk
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fancy

jaunty light
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Super fancy

sly elk
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like liberace

nocturne fractal
pseudo frigate
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Dell makes trustworthy stuff

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But theyre horrible with decisions

sly elk
dull garnet
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"how much did you spend on pointless fans?"
"yes"

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i do like the 3070 though

sly elk
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someone said the colors didn't work, OP said they aren't 14 anymore, I said that comment makes them sound like they're 12 now.

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wtf

green estuary
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Anyone know any fix?

hard drift
green estuary
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Yeah I could log in after a bit!

eager cipher
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turned off smt in ryzen.. no crash for several hours.. i hope it fixed the crash

pseudo frigate
deep sapphire
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“I make my own MR2 Spyder”

modern iris
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My old laptop could press prntscreen and take a pic instantly and save it

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My new one makes me snip and save it up

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How do I fix it?

deep sapphire
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Most laptops have a numpad that is activated with the fn key

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Some are toggle press some are toggle hold

modern iris
deep sapphire
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Disable OneDrive and see if that helps

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You may have to restart your game though im not entirely sure. Try just disabling it and if it doesn’t work restart the game

modern iris
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oh wait wrong folder

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how do you change the screenshot hotkey

young falcon
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Anyone having a login problem on their client where it keeps saying incorrect ID or password?
I'm using OTP, and I also tried logging into my mogstation and succeeded however I can't log in to my client

deep sapphire
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You can also change the directory where it saves screenshots I believe it’s under the other category with the 3 dots as the icon

deep sapphire
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Yeah pretty much

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The reason you’re getting that screenshot failed error is because something is preventing the game from writing to documents directory or youre low on space

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You can test the write theory by trying to add a gear set, if that fails then I am almost positive one drive is the problem

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It’s possible you have to restart windows too but in most cases you shouldn’t have too

modern iris
deep sapphire
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Are you saying when you press the key it opens snipping tool?

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Well rather triggers it

young falcon
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@deep sapphire it's weird really, cause I am 100% i input the right username pass and OTP

deep sapphire
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Open that sub menu on the task bar in the bottom right and right click it to close it

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The little arrow

modern iris
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what sub menu?

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there isn't

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
modern iris
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the submenu doesn't have a snipping icon

deep sapphire
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This

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Oh

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Check task manager then

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That’s weird

modern iris
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where do I find snipping in task manager

deep sapphire
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Under processes or services

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If you still can’t find it do this

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It’s a useless program anyway I suggest using shareX for that

modern iris
deep sapphire
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Then disable it in the msc console from that article I posted

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ShareX is awesome

modern iris
deep sapphire
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Then how tf is it opening if it doesn’t exist

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Windows pls

modern iris
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like I check "s" section but no snipping tool

deep sapphire
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Go to add or remove programs and see if it’s in there

modern iris
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found it

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I'll uninstall it

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I'm still getting the same screen I did before so what am I doing wrong?

deep sapphire
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Did you confirm that OneDrive is disabled

modern iris
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yes

deep sapphire
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Restart your PC

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It’s early enough you shouldn’t have a bad queue

modern iris
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okay I'll try restarting

modern iris
deep sapphire
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It’s possible the drive is still being write protected, you can check to see by right clicking the documents >> my games >> ffxiv folder. Right click it and go to properties

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On the bottom of it doesn’t have a check mark on on write

modern iris
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I'm still getting the drag and snip

deep sapphire
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And it’s only on read

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Just try restarting

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We’ll go from there

modern iris
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ok

young falcon
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i really tried, did the backspace, didnt work either. Also logged in on a browser, and it worked, but everytime i try to log in the client it just states the same thing

deep sapphire
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Well if you want you can try using the XIV quick launcher

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It’s not official but it’s a good launcher

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The only other thing I can think of is something to do with the cache being all fucked up as it uses internet explorer’s api

modest moss
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holy shit Hank is actually mentoring

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END OF DAYS

deep sapphire
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Not for long though I have to attend this training class in 10 minutes

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HOW TO MEASURE CLEARANCES

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FRACTIONS AND DECIMALS

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FUN STUFF

deep sapphire
# modern iris ok

I won’t be available for awhile so if that didn’t work check to see it has write permissions in that folder, also make sure you have enough storage on your boot drive.

modern iris
modern iris
young falcon
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This

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is weird

modern iris
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is this in built or something

young falcon
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i somehow got it to work with turning off my vpn

modern iris
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it works fine when I use fn + print screen but

deep sapphire
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Are you sure that’s snipping tool and not something else

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Also gotta go

modern iris
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I'm not sure

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Now I can't use print screen and fn

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Help

modest moss
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that's snip and sketch

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windows key + shift + s

modern iris
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I could use print screen and fn and ss

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But now I think I accidentally broke something

modest moss
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what did you do

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on my laptop and 3/4 size keyboard it's fn+prt sc

modern iris
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I was following someone's instructions and before I uninstalled Snip and Sketch it worked fine

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I was told to restart

modest moss
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in the 1 minute between you saying you could use fn + print screen and then saying now you can't, what did you do?

modern iris
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I uninstalled Snip and Sketch most likely

modest moss
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did you change keybinds in xiv?

modern iris
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No

modest moss
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so reinstall it maybe

modern iris
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Lemme try restarting the game

modest moss
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see if num lock or scr lock need to be toggled

modern iris
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I think I'll restart my computer and see if it helps

modest moss
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you will have those somewhere, likely need to be pressed with fn

modern iris
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My laptop had a update and restart so

modest moss
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mine are on Insert and Delete, respectively

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ghetto, lol

modern iris
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Ugh

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any suggestions?

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I was following a earlier person's advice but

modest moss
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sorry, no idea, it should work

modern iris
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I think either uninstalling snip & sketch or changing attributes of folder from read-only must have broke it

modest moss
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nothing they told you to do should have suddenly made it go from working to not working

modern iris
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Oh wait I keybinded so

modest moss
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I asked if you changed keybinds and you said no >_>

modern iris
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I thought I didn't

modest moss
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welp that should fix it

pseudo elm
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thats the windows default keybind for the snipping tool

modern iris
modest moss
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I told you

pseudo elm
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that is the snipping tool

modest moss
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snip and sketch

hard drift
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windows shift s is that

modest moss
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it's the new version

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you can literally use that for a fullscreen screenshot

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click the button left of the X

pseudo elm
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i recommend getting used to the snipping tool. imo its faster and acts as a ctrl + v paste. snip what you want, ctrl v into discord or some other application.

modest moss
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I'm also a fan of alt+prt scr for taking a screenshot of just the active window

pseudo elm
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yea thats handy for a fullscreen shot of the window. also can be pasted after using the keybind.

modest moss
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yeah, I use it a lot when working on stuff with other people

real edge
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snipping tool was one of the best additions, gone are the days of print screening and pasting into paint lol

pseudo elm
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tru

modern iris
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so weird

pseudo elm
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wut

modern iris
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the snipping tool

pseudo elm
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whats weird about it

modern iris
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I use lightshot which is pretty similar to this new version of the snipping tool

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yet it's much easier to do

pseudo elm
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oh.. lightshot

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ive heard bad things about lightshot. im surprised people still use it

modern iris
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bad things?

pseudo elm
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yes. it uses some sort of internet base to store all screenshots. there are plenty of peoples personal information, pictures cough of people and it can be easily accessed.

modern iris
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ooh

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i see

pseudo elm
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yee lightshot uses web-scraping and people have uploaded there own scraping scripts on github to get peoples personal information. every screenshot taken is practically a random URL created.

Think of imgur, but worse.

modern iris
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damn

odd sand
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SK hynix's 24Gb (3GB) DDR5 memory chips are made using the company's 1anm fabrication process that relies on both extreme ultraviolet (EUV) and deep ultraviolet (DUV) lithography to increase device density without sacrificing yields.

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I assume that doesn't mean 1nm process bc isn't that impossible given 1nm is the width of 1 atom right?

deep sapphire
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ShareX just makes it so much easier

jaunty light
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Fax the screenshot immediately

modest moss
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Convert image to morse code

umbral moss
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turn it into braille

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👌

odd sand
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Fuck you Outlook! Finally remembered to track down this stupid setting and turn it off. I don't use the web Outlook often, but that was maddening bc if you don't want to use their suggestion it fucks with your normal typing in a similar way to autocorrect on phones.

blazing panther
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Put 2 more fans in my case, just need one last one to fill out the bottom.

modern iris
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I was going to ask, why's there a controller inside the case

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but it's just the reflection

blazing panther
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nope

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its in there

blazing summit
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is that a lian li 011 dynamic?

blazing panther
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😂

modern iris
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wait waht

blazing panther
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yeah it is

blazing summit
blazing panther
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razer edt

blazing summit
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might get one of those but problem is i wanna get a new motherboard before i get a new case

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not a problem actually but something i wanna wait for

blazing panther
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lemme just say, the lian-li 011 is a fantastic case to build in and looks super clean

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its apparently cliche and many people use it but theres a reason why loads of people use it 😂

blazing summit
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i think i'll end up changing everything in my pc atm apart from the gpu and cpu tbf

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and re use my ll120 fans

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also have you ever had issues with using your AIO? like any issues with noise or anything like that? @blazing panther

blazing panther
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nope no issues myself, you should know that its one where the pump is in the rad not the cpu block, so its a bit different than most

blazing summit
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oh cool, never seen one of those before
had an nzxt one but swapped it for an nhd15 due to the pump just being noisy

blazing panther
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means I could almost always mount it and it be fine

blazing summit
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that has the pump over the cpu

blazing panther
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did you have it mounted properly so the rad was higher than the pump?

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well, so the highest point was in the rad i mean

blazing summit
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it was lower but i did have it for quite some time so i think some of the liquid had evaporated

blazing panther
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ah yeah

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best thing about the pump integrated into the rad is that it can almost always be mounted correctly 😂

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but yeah i've had no noises myself, had it for a few months, can't remember when I actually got it tbh

blazing summit
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never knew there were pumps that were integrated inside the rads themselves thats awesome

blazing panther
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this the one i bought

odd sand
blazing panther
odd sand
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This doesn't end until you bring about Korean Fan Death upon yourself!

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Dousing yourself in ice-cold water and lying on a bed surrounded by 192 fans addicted to the evaporative effects, isn't the way!

blazing panther
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😂

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its okay I'll stop at....

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9 case fans and 3 gpu fans

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lmao damn my pc will have 12 fans when im done 😅

jaunty light
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I only got 5 case fans vierbruh

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I should get rid of the glass and build a side panel out of 120mms

blazing panther
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😂

jaunty light
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Or 10k rpm 80mm deltas

odd sand
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Oh dear god. I won a 90mm 7200pm Delta years ago at a LAN party. I had to stop using it bc it sounded like a blow dryer and you could hear it on the other side of the house.

sly elk
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ehe that anime

modest moss
sly elk
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hmm wait it's not the anime i'm thinking of is it

odd sand
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Fio was her name was it? Or Rio? I forget

sly elk
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Kemono Jihen

odd sand
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It's from Yuushibu

sly elk
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definitely not 😄

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i should watch that one ^_^

odd sand
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It's a lot more entertaining than you would expect from the synopsis and she's quite endearing despite being walking cheesecake

dreamy chasm
odd sand
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That's why I loved the Blue Orb I had back in the day. Everyone else had 90mm fans and that was 120mm with the heatsink surrounding the fan. Lots of area for dissipation while being super quiet bc it ran at like 800rpm instead of 2000rpm

dreamy chasm
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Oh?

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Ah.

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Larger size fans are always nice whenever they're an option

dreamy chasm
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More airflow at lower rpms

wintry drift
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sadly large fan case meta never became a thing :c

odd sand
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My friend's last case had the 220mm on top lol

wintry drift
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must be a giant box with even bigger plastic fenders

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like a bad tokyo drift kit

odd sand
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Maybe that one was 200mm and the 220mm was the side. I just remember it was the entire width of the case

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I have the Corsair 570 something and that works well enough. 2 on top with the 240mm radiator, then 3 front and 1 rear

eager cipher
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For everyone that has 0xc0000005 crash on AMD cpu, disable SMT in bios/uefi or ryzen master.. sending this for future reference if someone will search this

kindred brook
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remember my friend

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who said he had the motherboard issue

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becuase the motherboard wasn't updating

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@modest moss

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LOL

modest moss
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couldn't update bios yeah

kindred brook
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lol

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said it happened twice

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and now his pc isn't showing visuals

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\o/

modest moss
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welp, that's fucked

kindred brook
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I told him to get a cheaper board

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he wants to buy a godlike again

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used ls like 350

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needs a board that supports 3 m.2 slots

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and hes going to be giving away the PC to his kid

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I'm like dood; just get a cheaper board

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and slot the NVME in a PCI-E adapter

wintry drift
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3 m2 slots doesnt seem that rare

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for an atx board at least

kindred brook
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for z370?

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if you can find me some

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I can give him a list

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to look for some

wintry drift
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ah my dyslexic ass read 570

kindred brook
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yeah its pretty common nowadays

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lol

wintry drift
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i only remember the fatal1ty board with 3 m2 slots

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from asrock

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but dunno if thats even in market still

kindred brook
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I think he should go with the cheaper option

odd sand
kindred brook
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he bought his pre built

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I dunno lol

odd sand
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As you said, worst-case scenario you slot the extra into a riser

kindred brook
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I think the term

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is

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Big Dick Energy

odd sand
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There just isn't a practical way to OC anymore. The margins on CPUs and GPUs are just so much tighter than they used to be

pseudo elm
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Didn't know there was a way to turn it off or configure it. I just remember watching a video a few weeks ago where someone was explaining how people used lightshot to screenshot sensitive information & that it was easily accessible.

pseudo elm
pseudo elm
sly elk
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yea the only thing you really get now is fancier looking boards and slightly fancier onboard stuff

pseudo elm
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Unless you go 12th gen for that ddr5 support. Which is a hoax. But niche I suppose

odd sand
#

It's not really a hoax, but the DDR5 ram won't be an upgrade over DDR4 for a couple years yet

pseudo elm
#

It's a hoax at the moment. In a few years, I'm sure it will be. Ddr4 was like this in the beginning from what I remember.

odd sand
#

Tests I saw it was about a wash with a few places where it was slightly ahead. But of course with less produced the prices are higher, so there is no incentive to go with it

dreamy chasm
pseudo elm
#

The fans I recommend are the phantek t30s. Probably the best performing fans on the market when it comes to static pressure, build quality & noise level.

modest moss
#

I recommend Arctic F12 because they're cheap af and fine

#

yeah very few people need turbonerd hobbyist kit

pseudo elm
#

Arctic f12s are great. I have them on a guest build I did a while back

bright hinge
#

Oh god tech stuff

#

Any fellow ppl who cry over getting flexbox to cooperate

modest moss
#

based on the last price I paid for those Arctic case fans, the Phantek T30 is ten times the price, just not worth it unless you're either rich or pushing hard for super high performance or both

bright hinge
pseudo elm
#

Where u find that price

modest moss
#

ÂŁ but yeah, I got a 5 pack from Amazon for ÂŁ14.55

#

it was admittedly 2019 and I'm comparing today's Phantek price

pseudo elm
#

Impressive price. These days they are like 7-10$ a fan. Which is still pretty nice

#

And yea the phanteks are niche. No one really needs em. PC building is the only "entertainment expense" for me, so I go all out when I can lol

#

42$ for 3? It's 86$ for 3 on Amazon lmao

modest moss
#

current 5 pack is ÂŁ22.28

pseudo elm
#

Ohhh

#

Still. Thats not bad

#

Thats on Newegg? I need to check that out

#

Amazon currently lists 85$ for 3 I believe

modest moss
#

in fact the cheaper ones I got in 2019 were the silent version, so a little nicer

pseudo elm
modest moss
#

fun pointless fact: I've never used an AIO

pseudo elm
#

I'd say it's more of an aesthetic preference than anything. Some enjoy one over the other.

modest moss
#

I've never built or repaired anything that's needed more than a hyper 212 evo tbh

pseudo elm
#

I dont think there's any CPU that actually needs a high quality air cooler or AIO.

#

Maybe there is, I just dont know of any

#

Oh right

#

The 12900k is spicy as fuck

#

Might actually need some beefy cooling for that thing. The power draw is absolutely nuts

#

We're talking 200W+ . It performs like a beast but sheesh it is spicy

odd sand
#

Isn't the 11900 worse?

pseudo elm
#

Yea same. I got the 5800x shortly after launch. Going 12th gen would just be a waste of money. I might hop to next gen AMD if it is promising. Otherwise I'll wait gens later.

#

Oh neat. Micro atx build. I've always wanted to build one.

#

Lol

#

What case is that?

#

Ohhhh. Ive seen that before

#

That thing is tiny

#

Halo infinite gamer juice. Love to see it

#

You should. Or cinebench. I dont have the 3dmark paid version so I can't choose whether to do GPU or CPU test.

#

Defaults to both sadge

#

Also my 3dmark score I posted the other day is kinda skewed. I cranked the mem clock on my GPU as far as it could go without crashing omegalul

#

Yea I need to grab it at some point I'm intrigued by the other tests it has

odd sand
#

My H100 is still kicking on my main system. I'm on the fence on whether to replace it or not. I did some Prime95 recently and the CPU stayed below 75C so that still seems like its doing quite well.

pseudo elm
#

That background... lol

#

I dont. Anime is the future afterall

#

I can't show my background atm cause I'm behind a VPN but mine is kinda cringe

odd sand
# pseudo elm

Streaming revenues make that much? Because I guarantee they don't sell that many BDs anymore

pseudo elm
odd sand
pseudo elm
sly elk
#

i used to have a fancy bg on my work laptop

#

now I just keep it solid grey

pseudo elm
#

You should see my old AIO. The rad was so disgusting I almost threw up when I saw it.

odd sand
#

No gurgling noises or anything, so I don't think there has been much evaporation. My roommate has a year old coolermaster that already makes weird bubbling noises sometimes like it's struggling to push thru water

pseudo elm
#

I wonder if I have a picture

pseudo elm
#

Wow never knew.

odd sand
#

I attacked my H100 with airduster generously before moving it over

pseudo elm
#

I think they have a budget air cooler that works well

#

Or maybe im thinking of a diff brand

odd sand
#

The mesh filters on modern cases do a really good job of prefiltering air, so there isn't a ton of shit in cases these days

#

I pulled my old Radeon 5830 out of storage a while ago and gagged at the caked in dust in the fans lol

sly elk
#

lol

#

i want a video xD

#

I imagine a lot of computers do if you have direct sunlight shining on them

#

you know what I mean? Like if you have direct really bright sunlight in a room, you can usually see all the dust floating in the air?

pseudo elm
#

Ah ha I found it.

#

Feast your eyes upon this disgusting rad

#

Thats a nice score. Only 1.2k less than my score.

#

Way better than what you showed me the other day

#

If I didn't OC my ram or cranked mem clock on GPU I'd be at 11.3k average

odd sand
#

Probably still better than the back of your refrigerator

pseudo elm
odd sand
#

Best bet is probably just blast the shit out of it with an air compressor nozzle

pseudo elm
#

The only reason why is because I was dabbing a lot next to my computer. So the dust would become very sticky. Then harden up like chalk.

#

Yeah I've tried that. I just ended up throwing it out. I couldn't stand it

odd sand
#

Oh, in that case probably have to just buy a couple containers of rubbing alcohol and soak it

pseudo elm
#

I soaked the entire thing in warm 99% IPA. Made little difference

#

Ever since then i made it a mission to not dab near my computer. I refuse to get that kind of buildup ever again lol

#

I still vape near my computer though. Cause I can't be bothered to go outside. But the buildup on my computer is nonexistant when I vape. And most of that is probably due to the nice filters I have on my case.

deep sapphire
pseudo elm
#

Previous case I had, had 0 filters. For some reason I lost them lol

deep sapphire
odd sand
#

How do you lose filters? You take them off, you wipe them down, you put them back a minute later. Done.

pseudo elm
#

About that. My filters on my old case were extremely bad, like my radiator. So I was soaking them for days, rinsing the alcohol and repeat. I dont remember what happened after that. The roommate I had at the time might of thrown them out or something. I have no clue

sly elk
#

the filters fall off my case easily enough

#

they're just held on the bottom with magnets

deep sapphire
#

dawn dish soap and a brush would've worked better and taken 10 minutes

odd sand
modest moss
#

that's the original

odd sand
#

I assume it's been remastered, but it looks better than I remembered

modest moss
#

I would definitely watch a new one

pseudo elm
deep sapphire
#

IPA bath

pseudo elm
#

Good thing I now quit and don't have to worry about that anymore. But yea. Never want to experience that that lol

deep sapphire
#

try oatmeal stout next time

odd sand
#

I have to imagine they have some plans to bring him back after meme'ing him in two different Marvel series so far

modest moss
#

I dunno, I just read Lea Thompson asked them to reboot it and they said no

odd sand
#

Aww

pseudo elm
# deep sapphire try oatmeal stout next time

I'll keep that in mind for the future. But I dont think I'll have to go through a painful cleaning experience like that ever again. I've gotten in the habit of cleaning my PC every few months.

deep sapphire
pseudo elm
deep sapphire
#

LOL

#

bitchinfast3D

pseudo elm
#

Flux capacitor edition lmao

#

Requires a 2000W psu minimum

#

Rip

wintry drift
#

I have concerns

#

of the ground electrical variety

modest moss
#

what are the odds on electric shocks?

#

try not to die

pseudo elm
#

Replacing mobo on a laptop. Your patience exceeds mine

sly elk
#

that keyboard is missing letters

#

and a key

pseudo elm
#

When my Alienware laptop was dying and I tried to diagnose the issue; I opened up the laptop and realized how much I gotta unscrew just to get to the meat & bones, I instantly gave up.

sly elk
#

those are fun sometimes

#

you take it apart, put it back together... and have spare parts

#

the first time I took apart a laptop, it was a toshiba with a 75mhz pentium i think

pseudo elm
#

Or lose the screws/forget which screw goes where

sly elk
#

it was this ridiculous pcb sandwich

#

when I put it all back together, I had this fairly substantial piece of metal (shielding probably) and I couldn't figure out where the F it went

pseudo elm
#

Lmaooo

sly elk
#

the laptop spent the rest of its life without that piece of metal and worked fine

pseudo elm
#

Taking apart a laptop a few times made me appreciate desktops a lot more. I just... can't. Ugh

deep sapphire
#

you 2 are the same or something

#

scalp cleans dust filters with beer

pseudo elm
#

Beer? LOL

deep sapphire
#

you submerge anything in random chemicals

pseudo elm
#

Oh. I see what you mean

sly elk
#

eh most modern laptops are simple

#

take a macbook for example

pseudo elm
#

No, not that kind of IPA...

#

Good one. Lmaoo

sly elk
#

you get the special pentalobe screwdriver with the fucked up hole in the middle

#

and then you unscrew the like 10 screws holding the bottom on

deep sapphire
#

oh I legit thought you were memeing earlier and said you soaked in beer

sly elk
#

and that's it right there. everything

pseudo elm
#

Noooo

#

Isopropyl alcogol

sly elk
#

I mean it's all soldered on so there's nothing to be done

pseudo elm
#

Omg lol

deep sapphire
#

oh okay lmao

pseudo elm
#

I would never 🤣

deep sapphire
sly elk
#

or you get a dell xps and you can do the same and actually change parts

deep sapphire
#

just use brake cleaner

sly elk
#

or you get one of those stupid precision 7 series

deep sapphire
#

on your sticky keyboard

sly elk
#

where the bottom is two panels that are held on with plastic clips that randomly come loose when you're bored fidgeting in a meeting

pseudo elm
sly elk
#

and you leave the meeting and the bottom of youjr laptop falls off

deep sapphire
#

as much as I would want too

#

its a terrible idea to use on plastics

#

hahaha

pseudo elm
#

Oh lord

deep sapphire
#

it'll strip the paint off the keys and over time break the plastic down

sly elk
#

i use isopropyl 70% on electronics all the time

pseudo elm
#

I used isopropyl alcohol on my plastic membrane keyboard years ago and it similarly did the same thing

sly elk
#

you only need the 99% if you're going to dunk your parts in it

deep sapphire
#

and if you dont want your eyebrows

sly elk
#

or shout gibberish in a foreign language and toss it into your computer

pseudo elm
deep sapphire
#

AHHHHH WTF

#

THE PAINT

sly elk
#

dude we don't buy windex or lysol or whatever

#

we just buy rubbing alcohol and put ti in spray bottles and use it for everything

deep sapphire
#

unless its a honda because the paint would've peeled off anyway after 3 years

sly elk
#

sometimes when I go to like target, I'll buy 6 big bottles

#

and the cashier will always be like "... what do you need all that for?"

deep sapphire
#

I wonder why

sly elk
#

lol brake cleaner

#

what, they don't wipe their car off with the squeegee

#

at the gas station

pseudo elm
#

Little does the cashier know, I used isopropyl alcohol to clean my paraphernalia when I smoked. I always tried to come up with some excuse

sly elk
deep sapphire
#

brake cleaner is the greatest thing ever invented, next to dawn dish soap

#

actually I like dawn more

pseudo elm
#

Yeah lol. I bought out my Walmart one time everyone gave me the strange look

#

My cart was filled with qtips and isopropyl.

#

Thats it.

deep sapphire
#

dawn is legit the most amazing surfactant ever made

#

WD40 is also good too

#

specially for industrial grease stains

sly elk
#

i mean, we use a lot of alcohol at work

deep sapphire
#

NO DRINKIN ON THE JOB

sly elk
#

that's like the default if you want to go into the clean room

#

you have to wipe down anything you carry in with alcohol

deep sapphire
pseudo elm
sly elk
#

and then use the shoe cleaner

pseudo elm
#

I hate seeing my fingerprints

deep sapphire
#

I use dawn to soak my work clothes and it does a great job

sly elk
#

hmm

pseudo elm
#

Bruh what

sly elk
#

if you want your glass spotless

deep sapphire
#

im a mechanic I get very dirty

sly elk
#

you can just use plain water usually

pseudo elm
#

Oh

deep sapphire
#

dawn works great at getting out dirt

sly elk
#

preferably a microfiber cloth

deep sapphire
#

and grease

sly elk
#

but I use rubbing alcohol for this too

#

in fact I clean my desk with rubbing alcohol

wintry drift
sly elk
#

... because it's a giant sheet of tempered glass

pseudo elm
#

I was like "have u ever heard of laundry"

"Nah fam just dip em in dawn and let em dry"

pseudo elm
sly elk
#

what kinda work

deep sapphire
#

brake cleaner will

#

depending on how long it sits

#

those bastards...

wintry drift
#

brake cleaner is to strip paint from miniatures

#

smh

sly elk
#

i feel like hank just washes his truck with brake cleaner

deep sapphire
#

LMAO

pseudo elm
#

Omegalul

deep sapphire
#

walk out of autozone with a box full of brake cleaner

#

300 dollars

sly elk
#

I guess it works like optimum no rinse

#

you pour a cap into a bucket

#

and then fill the rest with water

#

I hate ONR

deep sapphire
#

fill it in the windshield washer fluid res

wintry drift
#

real badasses wash their car with gasoline because if gasoline goes inside the car, it is therefore the only thing that should go outside

deep sapphire
#

thats what sarah was saying about her cousin

sly elk
#

ehh

wintry drift
pseudo elm
#

Just wanted to share this with yall. My previous build had some... technical difficulties.

sly elk
#

did.. you....

#

throw a spark plug at it?

pseudo elm
#

Headbutt my pc?

#

Yes

deep sapphire
#

he was playing CSGO and got awped

pseudo elm
#

I did

wintry drift
#

I feel like some tension was improperly placed

sly elk
#

it looks awesome though

#

ya know my brother used to use a dining table as a desk, that had ceramic tile as the surface

pseudo elm
#

My gamer rage is kinda bad

sly elk
pseudo elm
#

I own that table

sly elk
#

the way /r/pcmr goes on about tempered glass

#

i wonder if they assemble their computers on that kinda table

pseudo elm
#

Lmaoooo

#

Funny enough, my old build was assembled on that table

sly elk
#

do they play football in the house with a football made out of spark plugs

pseudo elm
#

This was my build when I had the 011wx case

#

Much Unicorn puke ik

sly elk
#

❤️

#

also yay we have the same mic

pseudo elm
#

Hyperx quadcast s

#

I only got it because its flashy

#

Pretty sick. And it can be controlled via Open RGB as a music visualizer. I love it lol

sly elk
#

🙂

#

same reason i bought mine

pseudo elm
#

That's me messing around with open rgb. Music synced to all rgb. Crazy lightshow

sly elk
#

it sounded slightly better than a blue yeti to me, and I'm not paying $400 for a samson SM7b + XLR thingy setup or whatever

#

or $100 for a cheap xlr and a shitty xlr mic

pseudo elm
#

Agreed. It sounds great

sly elk
#

it wouldn't give me anything anyway

#

I don't have a deep bassy voice

#

and I sound just fine with this mic 😄

odd sand
#

Well I don't think I have to worry about my X570 case. The panels hang so there is no pinching etc.

pseudo elm
#

Solid case. Looks neat

#

Only one thing I am curious on though

#

Why is there a tempered glass panel in the front? It already has fans and a dust filter.

#

Seems a little counter intuitive since the fans will either be pulling air in or pushing air out. And the only room to breathe is the gap on the left and right.

#

Seems like there is the ability to take it off though

odd sand
#

That is the trade-off with glass cases. Many of them are built offered with a glass or mesh front face

#

Honestly this design is fine. There is plenty of gap to suck in air.

pseudo elm
#

True. At least they give you the option to take the front off if you please too

#

At least that seems to be the case.

#

I'm sure it hardly makes a difference ive just never seen a case with the front like that before. Overall the aesthetics are nice. How much is it?

jaunty light
sly elk
#

yep fuck that

#

heh another reddit thread on work from home, this time in /r/apple

#

I love watching people lose their shit over people working from home

#

they're like I WANT FACE TO FACE SOCIAL INTERACTION!!!!!

jaunty light
#

Nah dude leave me alone thats what IM is for

sly elk
#

yea let's bring back handshakes and eye-to-eye staring contests and people coming in after having food with too much onions and booze

#

FIRM handshake with a little tug to assert dominance

jaunty light
#

Yes, I am to break hands

sly elk
#

man I hate hand shaking

sly elk
#

these days I'll let the other person reach out and not return the gesture haha

jaunty light
#

Ye

#

Head nod's good enough bruh

#

I don't need to touch you to know yoy are a real person

vestal crow
#

Hello, please tell me what's happening 🙂

sly elk
#

last time I went in for an in-person meeting because we had some out of state visitors

#

one of the dudes mask was too small and kept falling off his nose

#

it was so distracting I think I couldn't pay attention half the meeting

modest moss
sly elk
#

sorry rantaro i have no idea, maybe someone does >>

vestal crow
modest moss
#

lots of people are reporting those issues

vestal crow
#

so it aint just me then, i'm hoping

#

oh really

modest moss
#

yeah definitely not just you

vestal crow
#

lovely since it got me at the 200ish queue

modest moss
#

you'll see many others with that

#

just a case of waiting, keep trying and eventually they'll fix it

lapis talon
#

anyone know how to fix it?

idle dove
#

Im getting this issue

#

Maybe server side?

#

welp, guess ill see to it tommorrow

lapis talon
#

o.o a lot of people are having this problem

#

im betting the servers died

idle dove
#

most likely

#

also, got a question, just started playing a few days ago. is it bannable if I use a DPS tracker of some sort?

#

I have fun feeling artificialy superior.

inland hemlock
#

Same issue, glad it isn't just me

modest moss
#

the login or authentication servers have shit the bed I'd say, waiting game

inland hemlock
#

Judging from twitter, happened to a ton of people if not everyone

modest moss
#

yep, it's widespread

wintry drift
#

amazon web services on fire again?

modest moss
#

at least we have a christmas server icon now

wintry drift
#

too soon to be the log4j related at this point

jaunty light
#

got me a leap 2.. it's so much more comfortable than my uh, GAMER chair

modern iris
#

ive also been thanos snapped. RIP.

keen shale
#

Hi!
I have a weird error in multiple language when trying to connect. an error has occured. I am alone having this 😦

inland hemlock
keen shale
#

Oo! its a relief then 🙂 i tough i broke my game. just reinstalled windows and all!

#

Thanks Arkha

deep sapphire
modern iris
#

oh yes

#

im getting a dload now

keen shale
#

Lol what a timing! yes it works 🙂

dire aurora
#

not ff14 related but is this supposed to take a long time to start? Thonk

#

it hasnt done anything for like 15 mins

lethal coral
#

Anyone else getting super laggy servers?

#

like at times everything will be a slide show but it only affects me. I've tested my internet and it's not that Im getting perfectly good connection and speeds

jaunty light
#

7000D hmm?

pseudo frigate
#

How is it

#

That i literally live in the country where Light DC is being hosted

#

And I continuously get 90002 disconnects

#

But when i play on AETHER

#

ACROSS THE GODDAMN WORLD

#

I have the most stable fucking connection in the world

#

What

#

The fuck

#

This bothers me so much

#

My experience on NA is 10times better lmao

modest moss
#

Aether is solid for me from UK, have barely ever played on Light though, I did level a character on Odin to 18ish to help my wife invite alts to her FC though and it was fine

modest moss
#

Error 2002 While Waiting in Login Queues

In regards to Error 2002 that occurs during login queues, outside of causes related to unstable connections, we have confirmed a bug. This bug was part of a login-related program created back in FFXIV version 1.0, and thanks to the reports and tests carried out by many of our players, we were able to identify the cause of the problem. We apologize for not being able to identify the issue on our end and thank you all for submitting detailed reports regarding this matter.

Although the code for fixing this bug is already prepared, applying the fix will require patching the game client, which will be addressed in Patch 6.01, scheduled for Tuesday, December 21. As this issue occurs while waiting in the queue for a very long time, we considered releasing the patch ahead of schedule, but in the end decided to include it in Patch 6.01, as there is already a lot of new code in the pipeline for the patch and interrupting the process of verifying them may lead to other bugs. We apologize for the inconvenience and ask for your patience a bit longer.

pseudo frigate
#

Im not getting 2002

#

Queues are fine

#

I get 90002 ingame

#

So i literally get kicked out of the game with error 90002

modest moss
#

That wasn't directed at you, just interesting they've finally acknowledged it, they previously said anyone getting 2002'd in the queue was their own fault

potent badger
#

anyone around that can help me with a ui issue?

modest moss
#

maybe, best bet it to just ask it and if anyone has a clue they'll tag you

potent badger
#

trying to alter the bars in the bottom left and it wont let me get rid of the icons at all. cant find any options and the bars are unlocked not sure whats going on

modest moss
#

I think I know why

#

you need to temporarily switch control method to mouse/kb and then you can unlock/edit those bars

potent badger
#

the one thing i didnt try lmao

modest moss
#

I had the issue in reverse lol, I wanted to lock some of those extra bars and nothing would do it when on controller input, someone told me switch to mouse/kb and I could lock them, and they stay locked while I'm on controller even if I unlock the wxhb

lost python
#

Welp, dell sure did an oopsie.
New bios released. We installed it. A dozen notebooks now bricked because after you fully turn them off, they simply don't power on anymore unless you remove the battery

quaint spear
#

hi

#

I am having trouble doing FTP with the NAS I got last week.

#

oh.... and I finally got my schedule for work plus a name tag, uniform shirt & ball cap plus a key fob to get into certain places.

lost python
# modest moss that's uh, less than ideal

Yeah especially because we were supposed to deliver said notebooks to the employees today.

Fun workaround to fix it tho: disconnect battery, boot only with power cable, reset time, put battery in again, downgrade bios, remove battery again, boot again and reset time and boom works

modest moss
#

effort, but at least you found a way

quaint spear
#

😦

#

that's lame.

#

gotta put old BIOS in....

#

kinda reminds me of firmware on PS3

#

so many different models and they did one-size-fits-all firmware updates for them instead of giving a choice ....

#

if your PS3 isn't compatible for some reason, the hard drive or disc drive won't work; breaking the machine.

dull garnet
#

Wat

pseudo frigate
#

If your ps3 is not compatible with the fw it’ll tell you and just not update..?

#

Give me some of those edibles u got

dull garnet
#

I've never heard of such a thing

modest moss
#

yeah I don't think that's a thing

modern iris
#

im having issue with the sound its stutering and buzzing i did everything and hasnt worked

wide hill
#

can you send us your sound settings in system > sound ?

#

@modern iris

modest moss
#

I ping Eanae often

#

she's learned to mostly ignore me

kindred brook
#

Damn

#

my 6700k is now my bottleneck

#

for my 3070 ti

#

; ;

#

I've been making a bunch of money working overtme this Holiday Season

#

BUT

#

DDR5

#

is too expensive

jaunty light
#

Time to get that 5950X on sale anya3c

lost python
#

Only 450 bucks purinwtf

teal fable
#

I need ddr5 but it’s unavailable everywhere I had some on pre order which was due 10 December now it’s pushed to mid January

kindred brook
#

how long will the 5950x last me

#

😮

#

do AMD CPUS

#

still have

#

a shit ton of issues

lost python
#

Haven't had then for quite some time now

kindred brook
#

for gaming/streaming at 4k

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can I get away with a 5900x

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@deep sapphire should i stay on team blue

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D:

latent grotto
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Well

lost python
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Ofc Hank will say Intel is better

latent grotto
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It should last for like 4-5 years

kindred brook
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is Hank Bias?

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I got DDR4 too

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soooooooo

lost python
latent grotto
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And temps aren't a problem unless you OC it

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In which case you'll have my issue

kindred brook
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why did you OC it?

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o.o

latent grotto
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Which is 90C during during synthetic workloads

lost python
kindred brook
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I trust hank

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with every molecule

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in my body

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he won't lead me astray

warm mesa
warm mesa
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sony getting rekt is the best thing ever

latent grotto
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Well I OC'd purely just because I didn't want to leave performance on the table

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And at the same time my use case will probably never push it to its full capacity cuz all I do is play vidya games and watch youtube

warm mesa
latent grotto
warm mesa
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this is pure comedy

untold onyx
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Oh yeah, D-Brand is trolling the hell out of Sony.

kindred brook
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are third party plates

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never going to ebe released

untold onyx
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I think every part of the page for those covers is a shot at Sony in some form or another.

pseudo elm
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I have the 5800x OC'ed and I get roughly 60-70c under load

untold onyx
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Yeah, not sure where the issues are. The Ryzen 3000 and 5000 series were the go to for a while. It even took Intel three generations to outperform without thermal runaway and even then it's avoiding the last part by a small margin.

kindred brook
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Hank! Everyone trying to convince me to let go of blue

pseudo elm
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The 12900k though.. that thing runs even hotter. The power draw is insane.

untold onyx
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Hey, you want to go Intel, fine. Just not sure where the misplaced accusations are coming from.

pseudo elm
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^ Both are doing well at the moment. Can't really make a mistake, team red and team blue have healthy competition.

kindred brook
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Lolol

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I am. Just messing with you guys

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The joke on this discord

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Is hank is team blue

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I think?

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@lost python

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Is thst the joke

pseudo elm
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These are my temps when running a stress test. Changed some curve optimizer settings making sure it's stable

deep sapphire
lost python
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If you need a space heater yes

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It's as hot and power consuming like one haha

odd sand
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Don't make me link the FX9950 again /s

kindred brook
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whats the FX 9950

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I miss my Athlon X2

odd sand
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FX9950 was a last-gasp from AMD and their FX line of CPUs after Sledgehammer failed. It brute-forced 5ghz by pushing TDP to 230W

kindred brook
odd sand
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That was around 2011-2012 at the beginning of AMD's doldrums of irrelevance that ended with Ryzen2 around 2018/19

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Where suddenly everyone was an avid AMD fanboy vivsmug

sly elk
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When the “and is good but if you want the best for gaming get a 9900k bruh” crowd was meta

latent grotto
odd sand
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I think the 11900K was the worst one bc it was still on 14nm. At least the 12900K is on 10nm now right?

latent grotto
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Normal power limits would limit it to 145W iirc

modest moss
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@kindred brook don't forget to ask @deep sapphire what his steam username is

deep sapphire
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LUL

odd sand
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Also keep in mind that while the 12900K might come close to the 11900K in power draw, it has double the cores on it compared to the 11900K, so it's actually doing a lot better for TDP, it just has a lot more packed onto the die

deep sapphire
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amdphenomfx

odd sand
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(Yes, the other 8 are "efficiency" but it's not like they are super garbo)

modest moss
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Vaccines are technology right?

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I just joined team moderna

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Waiting for side effects

odd sand
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I had moderna, it's fine.

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The extra arms really help in productivity

latent grotto
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I dont remember which one I got

modest moss
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Eh it seems like they all vary wildly by person and for no obvious reason

latent grotto
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I wanna say pfizer

modest moss
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Side effect lottery

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My protection is now AZ AZ Delta Moderna

odd sand
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Because everyone's immune system is a little different. Remember you aren't actually getting sick from them, it's just your immune system jumping on a perceived threat

modest moss
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Should be pretty stronk for a bit

odd sand
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Oh, you got delta strain of covid?

modest moss
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Yeah last month, fucking sucked

odd sand
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I've avoided covid so far afaik, although I've only been tested once last Feb, so maybe i was asympt.

modest moss
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I mean I'm just assuming it was delta, it was massively dominant here

odd sand
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Just think about how much worse it would have sucked with nothing though.

modest moss
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Omicron on the rise though

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Yeah I'd have been in hospital, maybe dead

odd sand
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Whatadeal

jaunty light
kindred brook
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HANK

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YOU ARE A INTEL FANBOY

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WITH AN AMD STEAM NAME

jaunty light
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Get da 5950x tho anya3c vivsmug

kindred brook
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BUT

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12900k

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for 550

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😮

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ugh

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but DDR5

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like 500 bucks

umbral moss
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especially since it's a weird above-jdec spec so you're paying for the frequency premium too

kindred brook
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the real reason I don't want to buy a DDR4 mobo

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and then a DDR5 one later

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is because I'm lazy

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I don't want to cable manage TWICE