technology-discussion

[modest moss]

seeing €600+ mentioned

[real edge]

600euro+ for a 2060

LMAO

[hard drift]

at that point i'd go 3060 scalped...

because that's just stupid

[real edge]

its just businesses chasing profit

[hard drift]

yeah, doesn't change how stupid it is though lol

[real edge]

the shortage is basically bullshit, gpu manufacturing and shipping increased in 2021 but we magically have a shortage of gpus and prices sky high

[hard drift]

given the 3060 msrp is 329 the msrp should be like 289-300 at most not that we'll ever see those prices

[real edge]

all of the manufacturers and shops are holding stock to sell it at a much higher msrp, with the manufacturers selling to the shops higher as well

its all just carefully manufactured bollocks

just like the ram price fixing scandal a while ago

[modest moss]

why make x amount of things to sell at y price each to make z profit when you can make half the amount and sell to people at twice the price because people are morons and still make z anyway

[lost python]

the thing is that it isnt even conspiracy at this point, because all the "legit vendors" suddenly had lots of stock to sell off right after the mining stuff got busted

[real edge]

yea, I dislike how there is nothing being done about it

no investigation, nothing

like, you cannot tell me that we had as many graphics cards and stock as we wanted for over 20 years at this point no matter the market and world situation but all of a sudden in 2021 we have massive shortages

I do not buy it

[lost python]

to be fair, the affected countries didnt have this much bullshit going on at once in the past 20 years

and i dont doubt that there is a shortage, i just doubt that it is really that severe

[dull garnet]

A 2060 can't even properly accelerate anything using that much ram

[hard drift]

yeah but people who don't really know tech will think "more vram must be better than this other card with 8"

[dull garnet]

That's literally all it is

Sad!

[hard drift]

😔 sad

[odd sand]

The thing about that statement is the card is what? 3+ years old at this point? So the card would theoretically go for less anyways. But you know they're going to extrapolate the 12GB card price based on the original MSRP of the 2060 like its still 2017/18 and not 2021

[hard drift]

yeah which is dumb, the original msrp was like 330ish before it was lowered to 300 for the original card

so if they raise it above that it literally competes with the 3060...

[odd sand]

At this point I'm fairly certain they have extra ram and just use it as a way to drive up MSRP.

Because the 3080 has 10GB, but they put 12GB on the 2060?

[glossy timber]

12gb 2060 is a bad meme

[quaint spear]

I just got hired!!!!
New job!!!

(Took a very long time to pass background checks)

[odd sand]

naisu

I also have a new job coming up. Sorta. (Switching contracts while working for the same contractor)

[quaint spear]

Naisu?

[odd sand]

Engrish for nice

[quaint spear]

uuh okay

anyhow, I'm gonna be a dietary aide.

for the past few weeks my back has been bothering me.... and I broke my toe(s) several weeks ago.

[odd sand]

Hopefully the new job turns the month around for you :)

Speaking of which, I totally forgot to sign up for a nutritionist appt last month. My cholesterol was apparently very high last doctor visit but i'm a picky eater, so I wanted their opinion on what I would like to eat that would cut down on that

[hard drift]

i mean the 3060 has 12gb as well

[dull garnet]

also worthless

[odd sand]

There was talk of the 3080ti coming with like 20 then it had 12, so yeah...

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-to-launch-on-january-27th-rtx-3070-ti-on-january-11th 😔

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-fire-fail-gif-12875208

[modest moss]

Footage of Levant trying to liquid cool his CPU

[ashen mirage]

footage of WoL trying to enter queue

[pseudo frigate]

im scared of the price

[hard drift]

probably 2000 msrp lol

for the 3090ti

[pseudo frigate]

ye msrp

i'd buy it for 2k

but it aint gonna be 2k

it's gonna be liek 5k

[hard drift]

you realize how much power that thing will be right? like 450w

it's literally a space heater at that point lol

[pseudo frigate]

i'd buiy it

already using a 6900xt anyways

but really wanna go back to nvidia as soon as i can

[hard drift]

6900xt doesn't usually use 450w though....

[pseudo frigate]

luckily not LOL

[dull garnet]

give it its own psu

sorted!

[hard drift]

i'd have gone nvidia if it was in stock when i went... but i told myself that if the 6900xt/3090 or 3080/6800xt was in stock i'd buy whatever they had

[late basalt]

Pretty sure that’s a thing

[hard drift]

it is

[pseudo frigate]

same and now i regret

[late basalt]

Also I’m still using a 1050ti that hasn’t yet died ( 🤞 )

Probably like 10 years old at this point

[hard drift]

i don't regret it 🤷‍♂️ it was way better than my 5700xt lol

[dull garnet]

that's impressive, can you travel through time?

that card is like 5 years old

[pseudo frigate]

this is my first AMD card and i'm having way too many issues, lovce the cpus but the gpus are undoable for me

[hard drift]

rip, to each their own some users have better luck than others

[pseudo frigate]

oh for sure, maybe i just have bad luck but idk

i take my first experience too serious

[hard drift]

what driver you using

21.12.1 seems to be the most stable one in a while for me so far

[dull garnet]

yeah nvidia users have pretty good luck

[deep sapphire]

@hard drift

[hard drift]

what 😒

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

😐

[deep sapphire]

Hey buddy how ya doing

[hard drift]

dying mentally yourself?

[deep sapphire]

Why’s that

[hard drift]

dealing with holidays and stuff lol

[deep sapphire]

And same here I can’t get this fuckin pipe fitting off at work and we have no map gas what the FUCK

Oh okay do you want a gift

[hard drift]

O_O no

[deep sapphire]

Okay 10 different gift cards to different stores valued at 10 bucks each coming up

[hard drift]

10 different stores coming from you just means 10 different chipotle locations

[deep sapphire]

Damn you know me so well!

[hard drift]

lol, i mean i don't imagine you're rich otherwise you'd send me a nvidia card saying "throw out that old trash"

[odd sand]

I heard something yesterday that was ridiculous, but actually makes some amount of sense: Mine crypto during the winter months to use the waste heat instead of running the actual heater

[deep sapphire]

WOW I MAKE ALMOST 70 A YEAR OKAY THATS LIKE ||middle class||

[deep sapphire]

[hard drift]

true

[deep sapphire]

Use fermi cards

[odd sand]

Make money from crypto while also using the heat to cut your heating bills heh

[hard drift]

heater and grill all in one

[odd sand]

70 a year is really solid if you're single and not in CA heh

[hard drift]

and not here

[deep sapphire]

Yeah I live in Minnesota near the outskirts so it’s pretty decent

My cousin makes stupid amounts of money though

Like 300K

[hard drift]

sounds like my mom and dad combined

[deep sapphire]

300K combined?

That’s a lot

[hard drift]

well he has a lot of debt too lol

[deep sapphire]

That’s how them rich folks live

Make the big bucks and spend it too

[hard drift]

we are by no means rich 😭

if that was the case i'd have soda everyday lol

also wtf does your cousin do that they make 300k a year

[odd sand]

I dunno if I would want to be rich. There is a bell curve to how much freetime you have I think.

300k/yr does me no good if I would have to work 60hr weeks and have my phone blowing up the entire time I took any time off, etc.

Have to be fuck-off rich where you can just live on investments heh

[hard drift]

yeah, i want a good balance of work/freetime

[deep sapphire]

He does SQL shit

And jumps ship a lot to keep improving salary

[hard drift]

ewww databases

[hard drift]

this is good though, i need to do that more

[deep sapphire]

Do it big

Make the big bucks

Never have to settle for Radeon again

[hard drift]

😒 i didn't settle mister

[deep sapphire]

[odd sand]

Ah yeah, if you are a DBA or something you can make good money. 300k still sounds pretty ridiculous for a dba though

[deep sapphire]

He probably does something else I’m not quite sure but I know he’s in a senior position

[odd sand]

I'm hopeful I'll get this Powerapps position in a few months. Should pay like 100k .... but is dealing with MS worth only 100k? /s

[deep sapphire]

Lmao

[ashen mirage]

||try living on the edge of poor like us 40-50kers||

[odd sand]

Us high-flying 70kers able to afford eating out and cars less than 10 years old. Woo

[deep sapphire]

It’s tough out there

[ashen mirage]

yes, yes it is

[sly elk]

100k in the US?

[odd sand]

Yes

[sly elk]

fresh out of college or with some experience? that sounds kinda low for MS

[odd sand]

Technically 3 years experience, but yeah it's what I consider more of a junior position for that sort of thing. Also govt related so they aren't going to pay as much, but its full remote

[sly elk]

good luck! 👍

[odd sand]

Theoretically I could even rent an airbnb in Japan for a month or two and work that job during it, but it depends on what their security requirements are.

I could probably tunnel to my home network and connect to work from there and they would be none the wiser, but I wouldn't want to have to explain if they somehow found out haha

[kindred brook]

are people having

weird game crashes?

had an unexpected error

for ffxiv

happened last night

and today

[odd sand]

You have a weird error that prevents you from using complete sentences

Sorry had to say it haha. I haven't tried playing Endwalker yet, so no help from me unfortunately.

[kindred brook]

doesn't the xiv

quick launcher

has a fix?

[dull garnet]

note down error codes next time

[kindred brook]

I think it was 3001?

oh wait

its this oine

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/twz9gLN6CLKNny7rWXYrMVXY52DV2e1xasrPC4l0Z2A/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/894943624775749682/918008777586929684/unknown.png?width=888&height=468

same error

[modest moss]

I would use the quicklauncher to verify game files

[kindred brook]

I did that

said everything was ok

[kindred brook]

I did... had the error twice now

[modest moss]

very few results on google about 1b1

[deep sapphire]

I dont think I've ever seen that error before

[modest moss]

I assume you're not playing off an external hdd, so that rules out the fix of unplugging and replugging the drive

the other fix is reinstall windows

so good fun

[deep sapphire]

didnt he just do that

you sure your hard drive isnt failing

[modest moss]

it could be

or he skipped some drivers

unrelated, I'm doing all the endwalker side quests and it's super satisfying having zones completely cleared out

[kindred brook]

its a samsung 950 pro

pepe cry

so its old

now

[deep sapphire]

should test it

[kindred brook]

I mean

I'm in Q now

_>

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/old-yeller-gif-6180444

[deep sapphire]

you can still test it

[kindred brook]

oh

how do I do that

[deep sapphire]

run a program

[kindred brook]

I'm running

FFXIV

in Q o.o

[deep sapphire]

not that program

a program that tests your hdd

[kindred brook]

ohhhhh

ok

just getting off work

maybe when I get back

gotta take dogs out

and go to the gym

[deep sapphire]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/gsmartcontrol/files/1.1.3/gsmartcontrol-1.1.3-win64.exe/download

use this

inb4 .exe in chat

[modest moss]

sus

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/8/22825086/kickstarter-crowdfunding-blockchain-open-source-protocol-cleo oh fuck off

[glossy timber]

to be fair it makes sense

kickstarter was a scam to begin with

[deep sapphire]

Yeah it’d probably fit but you’ll have to convert the flywheel so you can mount it to a transaxle

[umbral moss]

🤔

I'm puzzled at what kickstarter thinks blockchain will do for them

if someone rugpulls a campaign there's still no accountability for the person who steals all the money

and all the creditors are now neatly listed as "haha fuck you"

[boreal surge]

Yeah blockchain being the selling point of a currency is a scam

Like the fact that there is a paper trail is really useless for 90% of people.

And yeah good point, you don't exactly sign your block on the chain with your unencrypted personal information.

Unless you can link the signature to an actual person you're busted.

[sly elk]

transaxle

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

I know I know, it's not cool to hate on FWD

[deep sapphire]

I don’t get it

[sly elk]

but sideways engines bug me

especially because they're almost never centered

look at this man

[deep sapphire]

The 5.3 came in both configs but it is funny to see on V8s

[sly elk]

oh yes

[deep sapphire]

DOHC motors in transaxle configs are so big

[sly elk]

it's straight up comical

the W body cross bar reinforcements make it funnier

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

the first time I saw those was on a like 2015 impala

I thought they were a late model retrofit to make the chassis sturdier

I had no idea that the W body always had them

they just instantly make the engine bay look ghetto

[deep sapphire]

The rear suspension used the old corvette leaf spring cross member

[deep sapphire]

[sly elk]

I wonder what the weight distribution is

probably like 75/25 front/rear

I wonder if the rear end of the car can leave the ground if you slam the brakes hard enough

[boreal surge]

Depends of brake distribution and how much grip your tyres have.

[kindred brook]

@deep sapphire

my 950 pros

aren't being read in this

They are PCI-E drives

do you think

Those are the issue

; ;

hmm

it does say passed at the bottom

[void dove]

Crystaldiskinfo, for disk stats/checking smart stats
crystaldiskmark, to test disk I/O, read/write speeds

[odd sand]

That's a spicy meat-a-ball https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-confirms-12-ddr5-memory-channels-on-genoa

[deep sapphire]

If it supports SMART that app should be able to read it

[deep sapphire]

@potent arrow official dad tier status got the tape measure on the belt

[ocean thicket]

helluu could someone help me buy a pc 😭😭😭😭 pls dm mee

[deep sapphire]

What do you need help with

Gotta measure out this pipe

Lmao

Hey it’s better than Milwaukee’s tape measure

Guaranteed not to retract after 3 uses

[hard drift]

this seems like fun to do

[deep sapphire]

Haha

[deep sapphire]

Mapp gas to save the day

[dull garnet]

Quite easy to buy a pc, provide some currency

[quaint spear]

better yet, get a console.

then compute on something simple like a tablet.

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

I will never own aluminum Jack stands

Steel or Iron only

[modest moss]

tell us where you are, what you want to do with it and how much money you have

unpossible

I know a chick who did a disgraceful scrap build for a client, I can put you in touch if you want?

[paper tusk]

sadge https://www.engadget.com/nes-snes-creator-masayuki-uemura-dies-142518818.html?src=rss

[pseudo frigate]

i bought a new server for in my rack

for 700 euro

if i sell it again i can sell it for 2500

i love companies that go out of business

[deep sapphire]

Finally got this fucker off

[deep sapphire]

The good days of 50 dollar xeons

[pseudo frigate]

it are AMD, not xeons sadly

[hard drift]

what's wrong with epyc?

[deep sapphire]

Unproven chipsets

Horror days of Opteron

[hard drift]

😔

[deep sapphire]

I had to explain that to someone when they asked why you would even bother with Xeon when Epyc is way more efficient

One people don’t care and will just buy the same thing anyway, but two Intel has rock solid enterprise chipsets

And while I agree epyc overall is the better chip

Uptime is more important

[hard drift]

yeah, now if only they had the performance

[deep sapphire]

And run at 20000 degrees

[hard drift]

[modest moss]

wd40 bro

[deep sapphire]

Haha, already tried that. I used a torch to heat it up

Pipe threads are tapered so they are harder to unthread as they make a seal

[modest moss]

you might just be physically weak

skinny tech mentor nerd innit

[hard drift]

he's a tech mentor, he has to be weak

[deep sapphire]

RUDE

IM A CHAD OKAY

[hard drift]

a tech chad which means you're still not that strong

[deep sapphire]

I CAN LIFT A FULL TOWER CASE

[hard drift]

that doesn't mean much

[deep sapphire]

Am crying

[hard drift]

sorry hank, the truth hurts

[kindred brook]

damn

my brother just got a 3080

he has a 3070 ti right now

if I use that

will I get better performance

than my dual 1080 tis

going to still shoot for a 3080

but I can sell my 1080 tis

[modest moss]

why would he bother buying a 3080 when he has a 3070ti

[kindred brook]

he got it

at msrp

6999

[modest moss]

aren't they basically the same performance though?

[kindred brook]

699*

are they??

[modest moss]

apparently you'd only notice a difference at 4k, very similar at 1080p or 1440p

[kindred brook]

Yeah

I'm getting it for 4k

_>

well

want a 3080

for 4k

[modest moss]

he could just sell the 3070ti for a grand+ anyway

[kindred brook]

he makes

a shit ton of money

so he doesn't "really need" the money

just doesn't want to buy

overpriced cards

guy programs missiles

so he makes $$$$

Murder money

[modest moss]

will he give you the 3070ti to test?

[kindred brook]

yeah he said

I can deal with it lol

so I just need to give him

MSRP of the card

[modest moss]

might give you a bump from the 1080s, worth a try

[kindred brook]

I can give him

the cash from my 1080 tis

yeah

[modest moss]

if it's not a boost in performance just ebay the 3070ti

[kindred brook]

I mean

it will atleast be a stable 100 fps

in 3440 x 1440

I hope

it won't like ever dip lol

[modest moss]

I'm guessing it'll be better than 2x 1080ti's

but might only be a little

but you'd get the msrp from selling 2x 1080ti so just do it probably

can't lose by testing it

[kindred brook]

Yeah

I can get 400 bucks

for each 1080 ti

so its not bad

[modest moss]

easily, some are going higher on ebay

seeing some 600-800 even, depending on make/model

[kindred brook]

I'm kind of not a greedy asshole

its founders

edition

[modest moss]

people panic buying xmas gifts for their moody teen kids who demand a gaming pc

[kindred brook]

oh thats true

I might try for 500 bucks each

or 600 negotiable

[modest moss]

DAD I NEED TO PLAY FORTNITE AT 4K

[kindred brook]

O.O

[modest moss]

you'd easily get a grand for the pair I bet

[odd sand]

Getting any card at MSRP is a good deal, even if the perf is the same I would take the deal and flip the 1080s. You have a single newer card. SLI is kinda iffy for a lot of titles still isnt it?

[modest moss]

buy the 3070ti off your brother and get a new SSD, ez

[kindred brook]

Uhh its hit or miss; got to configure files somtimes

my fuckin

950 pro

died

I can't believe

one of them ate the shit

that was what was causing the error

[modest moss]

the 1080s won't give you RTX properly too, so that's a bonus

[kindred brook]

I moved the files to my other 950 pro

and now no more errors

[hard drift]

keep in mind the only way you're doing sli or multi gpu if you get the 3070 is via dx12 and vulkan i believe

if you care about that 🤷‍♂️

[kindred brook]

nah

no more sli for me

just single GPU now

lol

[hard drift]

lol okay

[kindred brook]

cards are too expensive

[hard drift]

yeah

[kindred brook]

the market is too stupid to multi GPU

atm

[hard drift]

next gen is supposedly going to be even worse

[kindred brook]

I bought a i9 and returned it because

ddr5 is stupid expensive

I'll upgrade my CPU in a year

or two

when DDR5 is cheap

[hard drift]

yeah, plus ddr5 will be better by then hopefully too

[kindred brook]

I got a 6700k atm

yeah

the returns for ddr5

not worth

[odd sand]

I think Nvidia realized SLI never really worked all that well. I think the only way you can even get multi-card is with the 3090 now isn't it?

[hard drift]

yeah

atleast for hardware sli

[odd sand]

Uhh... you know there are DDR4 boards for the 12th gen right?

[kindred brook]

Yeah

but I "feel" bad

because

I'd have to buy a new new board

lol

might as well

do the pain once

[odd sand]

So you're just sitting on the motherboard currently?

[kindred brook]

no

I don't have a board

or a cpu

or memory

I just got my old shit

[odd sand]

Then what is a new new board

[kindred brook]

I said I'd have to BUY a new board once ddr5 drops in price

and then redo my entire setup

like will it ever be worth

to buy ddr5

[odd sand]

I mean, you don't have to. I'm sure the difference won't be that substantial

[kindred brook]

what was the difference between DDR3 and 4

was that a bigger leap?

[odd sand]

It always takes several years for new DDR performance to push forward

[kindred brook]

what about "Real world" performance

do we actually experience it?

[jaunty light]

DDR5 is cheaper than when I bought my DDR4 for Z370

[odd sand]

Huh... supposedly DDR4 goes as low as 1600mhz. I thought 2133 was its minimum. When it first came out I think the common speeds were 2133 and 2400

[kindred brook]

wait

I have DDR4 1500

_>

<_<

[hard drift]

[kindred brook]

er

1600*

that was a typo

or I think I do

lemme check

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232907

oh

this is my kit

3600

I lied

[jaunty light]

I don't think jedec doubles it when releasing specs

[hard drift]

heck yeah, no rgb gang

[jaunty light]

1600 should be 3200

[kindred brook]

the sad thing is; if I upgrade

everything is RGB

now

right

its hard to avoid

[hard drift]

😔

[jaunty light]

TridentZ royal baby

[kindred brook]

Its like

way harder to build non RGB

than RGB lol

[jaunty light]

Almost alll the ddr5 now is nonrgb until companies get back on the gamer wagon

[kindred brook]

how da fuck

does memory

RGB

the heatsinks

[paper tusk]

ddr5 (5200) is currently only faster in things that need raw memory bandwith. game proformance is within a couple fps of ddr4/3600. once lower latency ram is on the market things will start becoming more compelling (in terms of getting ddr5 over 4)

[kindred brook]

have RGB lighting right?

[kindred brook]

thanks paissa man

[odd sand]

Nah in this case they really do mean DDR4-1600 aka 800mhz. The standard spec tho for DDR4 calls for 2133

https://multimonitorcomputer.com/solved/ddr3-vs-ddr4-gaming.php

DDR4 vs DDR5 won't be exactly the same, but in the previous transition there was barely a difference to start. A recent LTT video said much the same about DDR4 vs 5

[jaunty light]

I do prefer lowprofile rgb over what used to be ...

[odd sand]

On a different note: User flags a message as Not Spam in our system. I find it odd bc it was an internal email. He has the sender on his blocklist and that's why it was sent to Junk in the first place... 🤦‍♀️

[deep sapphire]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/bad-cooling-at-alder-lake-problems-at-socket-lga-1700-on-the-lane-among-all-remedies/

Yiiiiikes

Do not buy a cheap mobo

[odd sand]

Oh Dell, you so silly

MSRP is in monopoly money for an i5 non-gaming laptop with no dedicated graphics heh

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about getting the DDR5 board. When DDR5 is a clear advantage, it won't be for like 2-3 years at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJEq7H4Wf6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIN8lLhSqmg

[dull garnet]

wow only 22 minutes

guess they got an editor

[odd sand]

haha

[pseudo frigate]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i'm hyped for my new server

[deep sapphire]

10 samba servers

[pseudo frigate]

just 1 beast of a dell poweredge

its gonna be soooooooooooooooo loud though

[deep sapphire]

Put it in a basement or something

[pseudo frigate]

i live in an apartment but i got the perfect room for it so nw

i recently put my game pc into a 4u case that fits inside my rack

so its nice

my router and switch fit in there as well perfectly fine

nice unifi dream machine pro with a usw pro 24 port 😄

[deep sapphire]

Dream machines are awesome

[pseudo frigate]

they

are

so sad that i couldn't get the special edition with POE in it

cuz now i gotta use a switch 😦

if i got as special edition i wouldn't need a switch at all

[deep sapphire]

Ha yeah that would’ve been sweet

[pseudo frigate]

BUT MY NEW SERVER HAS iDRAC 6 enterprise

so that's gonna be very interesting

sad it didn't come with 9 but ah well

last time i used idrac was in 2015 lmao

and then i used iDRAC III

idk why

[deep sapphire]

Had to google, not versed in Dell servers but that’s pretty cool

[pseudo frigate]

oh sorry ye i had to google it too cuz i forgot what it was exactly

[deep sapphire]

We had a couple L3 Dell head switches

[pseudo frigate]

but when i saw a picture i was liek OH SHITE THAT STUFF WAS AWESOME

[deep sapphire]

Yeah seems like a nice remote tool

[pseudo frigate]

this is my first dell product if we don't count Alienware monitors

and an old dell monitor i sold

[deep sapphire]

Dell makes pretty good enterprise solutions

[pseudo frigate]

agreed but i prefer HPE

just looks better ngl

[deep sapphire]

Yeah they are a bit nicer to work with

[pseudo frigate]

i usually build my server myself

preferably just a supermicro mobo

and from there build it up

but this server was so cheap

4 cpus man

4 CPUS

on 1 mobo

[deep sapphire]

Slap Ubuntu server on there and go to town

[pseudo frigate]

ye well i'm still not sure what i'm gonna put on it

i'm tempted to use ESXI

[deep sapphire]

How many total threads

[pseudo frigate]

maybe Unraid

[deep sapphire]

ESXI is nice

[pseudo frigate]

64cores with 128 threads

[deep sapphire]

Oh nice

[pseudo frigate]

and i went with the cheapest ram

so 128gb ram

i'll upgrade it myself in the future

as each cpu supports 8 ram slots

so 1 cpu should be able to hold 512

but tbh i don't see how i'm gonna use up 128gb

[deep sapphire]

That’s plenty for a hobby server

[pseudo frigate]

unless ESXI

[deep sapphire]

Haha

[pseudo frigate]

man if ima be ESXI

ima make a VM for EVERYTHING

[deep sapphire]

How many VMs were you gonna make

[pseudo frigate]

like ima be running an AD at home

just gonna fresh install my gaming pc

hook that shit up to my AD

gonna be fun LOL

[deep sapphire]

Yeah there you go

[pseudo frigate]

that's the thing i'm not quite sure xD

i might use like what

64gb ram of the server for a MacOS installation

with 32 of the cores

should be more than fine xD

[deep sapphire]

I’m still sad they got rid of the AirPort Extreme

For the time those were fantastic routers

[pseudo frigate]

the creator of the airport has ubiquiti now if i'm correct :p

[deep sapphire]

Oh ha didn’t even know that

[pseudo frigate]

im not quite sure but i heard about that?

ima fact check now

[deep sapphire]

Makes sense, ubi products are nice for its features even on cheap stuff like edge routers

[pseudo frigate]

yep

the "creator" of ubiquiti tested the wifi of the apple products

After graduation, Pera, who admired Steve Jobs, secured a job at Apple Inc., where he tested the company's Wi-Fi devices to ensure compliance with Federal Communications Commission standards for electromagnetic emissions.[5] While working at Apple, Pera noticed that the power sources that Apple's Wi-Fi devices used to throw signals were far below FCC limits.[5] Boosting their power, he reasoned, could increase their transmission range to over dozens of miles, which could facilitate Internet access in areas that telephone and cable companies do not reach.[5] When his bosses at Apple ignored his idea, Pera decided to build his own low-cost, high-performance Wi-Fi module.[5] For the next year, Pera spent his nights and weekends in his apartment testing prototypes.[5] By early 2005 he was ready to start his own business and he left Apple to form Ubiquiti Networks.[5]

Ubiquiti Networks

sucks to be apple tbh

but i heard something about apple making a new modem?

[pseudo frigate]

i mean ubi does have the clearest resemblance towards apple: it only works with products of the same brand

it's just not gonna work with anything 3rd party although they claim it to be supported

so many DHCP issues with 3rd party routers...

[deep sapphire]

Yeah that’s true

I really like netgate routers

PFSense has so many features and it’s free

[pseudo frigate]

never heard of em lol

i like my udm pro for home tbh

[deep sapphire]

You can throw it on anything

[pseudo frigate]

i know pfsense

openwrt is nice too

[deep sapphire]

Netgate is the parent company of pfsense

[pseudo frigate]

ahhh

ye i dont really work of pfsense products

due to the lack of support/warranty

[deep sapphire]

They make appliances with pfsense already preloaded but the nice thing is they allow you to get professional service

[pseudo frigate]

easier for work, i work for an internet provider so euh

[deep sapphire]

Yeah that’s always a drawback

[pseudo frigate]

most of our products are microtik

[deep sapphire]

Plus it’s hard to automate

[pseudo frigate]

or Juniper

[deep sapphire]

Microtik is a lot more common in Europe

[pseudo frigate]

like the Juniper QFX5100

[deep sapphire]

Juniper is good

[pseudo frigate]

they have really nice support

[deep sapphire]

Yeah they’re one of the big players for sure

[pseudo frigate]

if my QFX5100 dies they replace it same day

[deep sapphire]

See a lot of juniper and Cisco

[pseudo frigate]

i hate cisco.

[deep sapphire]

Me too

IOS is annoying to use at times

And their stupid proprietary protocols

[pseudo frigate]

cisco has a horrible Command line

they WANT to do everything different

AND THEY AINT EVEN CONSISTENT WITH IT

IT FUCKING SUCKS

[deep sapphire]

The only redeeming thing to it is you can copy and paste configs

[pseudo frigate]

netgear is a bit low on my list too

[deep sapphire]

So once you do it once just copy everything and save it somewhere haha

Netgear is dog shit

[pseudo frigate]

most of the switches i use are Dlink

dlink is nice

ish

[deep sapphire]

Never cared much for them but if it works it works

Is it just an unmanaged switch?

[pseudo frigate]

nice switches

that's about it

nope managed.

[deep sapphire]

Oh nice

[pseudo frigate]

and unmanaged

but ye ngl i use damn old dlink switches in the field

they're just the best xD

[deep sapphire]

Hey it works it works

The biggest thing to me is support and good UI

[pseudo frigate]

oh ye i really care about UI

if i can avoid commandline i will

i'm a horrible IT guy i know LMAO

[deep sapphire]

If I have to navigate 200 sub menus to do basic firewall shit I’m not gonna be happy

I mean you know more about networks than most and I’d argue networking skills are near the top of IT skills haha

[pseudo frigate]

i just cba to remember all those commands

and typ 200000 lines for shit

i just wanna point and click and repeat

#lazy

[deep sapphire]

That’s how pfsense is basically

They also give nice descriptions for things if you aren’t sure what it does

It’ll have something like “usually this is left to default”

[pseudo frigate]

ye sounds like tp-link

[deep sapphire]

I wanna make a business that has a simple UI that explains anything to the simplest terminology

[pseudo frigate]

i've been looking into TP-link Omoda?

omada?

whatever

to replace with unifi but idk tbh

[deep sapphire]

Every network appliance I’ve used is a confusing mess that requires the end user to be afraid of everything they touch

Never heard of it tbh

But TP Link is great

[pseudo frigate]

yes indeed

man

had some dumb ass student be mad at me

cuz i recomended him a tp-link routers

he was like

THAT SHIT FULL OF CHINESE SPYWARE

YOU STUPID YOU KNOW NOTHING

and i'm thinking to myself

and wtf do u think your iphone is doing lmao

[deep sapphire]

Yeah forreal, reminds me of that stupid super micro scare years ago

[pseudo frigate]

even ubiquiti is trying to spy the living shit outa me

[pseudo frigate]

oh? did i miss some news

[deep sapphire]

Company is based out of California yet they claimed their boards had some spyware chip and it was like a fuckin resistor LMAO

[pseudo frigate]

bruh

what's it gonna resist

the will not to spy on you?

[deep sapphire]

yeah I think it was one of the major business publications made a huge panic scare over their products phoning home to China

And their stock price tanked

[pseudo frigate]

man no wonder super micro boards got so cheap for a while

[deep sapphire]

https://www.theregister.com/2021/02/12/supermicro_bloomberg_spying/

Oh that’s who it was

Bloomberg

Haha

[pseudo frigate]

ofc its bloomberg

it's always bloomberg

just google bloomberg and all you find is computer related drama

[deep sapphire]

To me it’s like

If the chip was there

Or it was in the bios

Someone would’ve noticed

[pseudo frigate]

man like

[deep sapphire]

And being they are the biggest board maker for servers

[pseudo frigate]

ppl make drama about everything

[deep sapphire]

You think they would risk that?

[pseudo frigate]

like call of duty is releasing a new kernel based anti cheat

ngl that shit damn bad

BUT THE DRAMA THEY'RE MAKING ABOUT IT

it's as if i'm watching a highschool movie or sth

[deep sapphire]

Haha I remember when blizzard starting scanning drives for suspicious software to prevent hacking and people were outraged

Yet they’ll opt in to steam survey

[pseudo frigate]

you know which ppl are outraged?

the ppl that use the hacks LMAO

[deep sapphire]

Oh 100 percent

[pseudo frigate]

but ye ngl

i dont play any activision or blizxzard stuff anymore

but im scared they just spyin on my with that software

there's no proof they aint gonna do it aside from their word that they aint

[deep sapphire]

Yeah it’s tough to really say and the only thing you can really do about it is snoop packets or processes to see where that shit is going

[pseudo frigate]

pihole

[deep sapphire]

But I can also see how using it is almost essential to stop hackers

[pseudo frigate]

😄

oooooh GOOD IDEA

i can host some monitoring software on my server!!

[deep sapphire]

Ffxiv doesn’t look at local files so hacking is easy and goes unpunished

[pseudo frigate]

yep

[deep sapphire]

I knew so many people who used shit to bot and did it for years haha

[pseudo frigate]

they dont track players ingame either

they still trust in the old fashioned GM system

with a reporting system

it's kinda nice ngl

just feels nostalgic

[deep sapphire]

Yeah

I gotta get back to work but nice chatting with ya

[pseudo frigate]

ye glhf

[modest moss]

but dude

SE has the STF!

sPeCiAl TaSk FoRcE knows and sees all!

[pseudo frigate]

only when reported ye lol

and tbh i also feel like they don't really care unless you get your sub for free LOL

[modest moss]

I remember when they were first introduced back in the FFXI days, they were a running joke and don't seem to have ever improved

[hard drift]

oh they're special alright

i hate SE and their customer support/gms lol they're so garbage

[pseudo frigate]

wasnt there this thing in ffxi where things got SO BAD in leveling areas that GMs had te reset all the monsters

[pseudo frigate]

i once got jailed for nonsense and had a 40minute chat about pizza with the GM

the GM didn't wanna do anything against me, he just had to show the community that they take action

LOL

[hard drift]

yeah, i've been jailed before it's pointless 9 times out of 10 it's for something stupid that is just wasting time

[pseudo frigate]

it's always like

YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG

[hard drift]

not to mention the fact that the gms literally pick and choose for action like you said

[pseudo frigate]

BUT WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOU DID WRONG

SO JOKES ON YOU

idiot

[hard drift]

yup

[pseudo frigate]

it really depends on if the gm is in a good mood or not lmao

[hard drift]

they'll refer you to "oh you violated section 3.2" or some shit and then when you provide chat logs and crap or timestamps they say "oh sorry we can't accept screenshots as evidence" bitch please, just use the timestamps and do your job

[pseudo frigate]

lol

i euh

got reported by some weird girl

[hard drift]

i feel you there....

[pseudo frigate]

that blamed me for euh

manipulating the decision of some guy into not wanting to date her ingame..?

the guy was gay.

he was gay.

[hard drift]

[pseudo frigate]

i got jailed

[hard drift]

yeah, it's dumb

[pseudo frigate]

for hate speech

😂

[hard drift]

🤨

i just gave up on playing with people in game so i don't have to interact with gms ever really

[pseudo frigate]

xD

idunno man

ppl try and report you for undercutting them on market board

shit is funny lmao

[hard drift]

this is why i hide my retainer names and get my fc leader to craft my crap

i don't want it traced back to me 😐

[pseudo frigate]

i give my retainers weird names

[hard drift]

mine are named after players

[sly elk]

tp-link is on my 'never buy that *(@#% again' list but it's because we had a few of those as cheap switches at work for whenever we wanted to run several embedded boards off a single floor port

one day the one at my desk went rogue and brought the whole network down

.... which is a sign of bigger problems...

but that's a stupid way to fail hahaha

[pseudo frigate]

you bought a cheap switch..

[sly elk]

who doesn't though?

I mean they cost about the same as an 8 port gigabit netgear

yea

[pseudo frigate]

idk i pay too much for my hardware

but that's cuz way too serious into the hobby lol

especially networking

i just love it xD

[deep sapphire]

[pseudo frigate]

duck

agreed

[sly elk]

mhmmm

[deep sapphire]

Hi Sarah, sorry was driving home

[hard drift]

[deep sapphire]

[modest moss]

lads

it's a fucking miracle

tea finally tastes normal after covid

[hard drift]

nice

[boreal surge]

Wha?

How did tea taste like with covid?

[hard drift]

you lose taste/smell

[boreal surge]

And are you sure you aint mixing it with the american bottled trash?

[modest moss]

it tastes idk, weirdly acidic, like a chemical taste

tasted*

[hard drift]

lemon juice?

or do we finally know what the forbidden liquid aka battery acid tastes like

[modest moss]

you heathens wouldn't understand I guess

[boreal surge]

Nah that sounds like how american bottled tea tastes to me

[hard drift]

i like real tea ty lol

[modest moss]

@boreal surge I'm English, in England

[hard drift]

i don't buy the american crap

[modest moss]

Bidori my guy you don't know what real tea tastes like

[boreal surge]

I come from a country where we chug tea at restaurants (i.e. not america)

[hard drift]

chinese tea

[deep sapphire]

GB BTFO

[modest moss]

you probably microwave the water

[hard drift]

wtf

[deep sapphire]

its more efficient and takes less time tbh

[boreal surge]

We tea so hard that we have sweet tea in glass bottles and tea soda in glass bottles.

[modest moss]

sweet tea and tea soda are kinda gross to me

[deep sapphire]

sweet tea is horrid I agree

[hard drift]

wtf is tea soda

[modest moss]

I just want freshly brewed black tea

[boreal surge]

Jasmine tea on my end. And sweet as in with sugar.

[modest moss]

occasional jasmine tea, or herbal to help me sleep

but mainly just loads of black tea

[boreal surge]

It’s... tea soda

[hard drift]

that sounds awful

[deep sapphire]

carbonated water is bad enough as it is, cant imagine what that tastes like

[modest moss]

lipton did a can of fizzy sweet iced tea with lemon here some years back

it was horrific

[deep sapphire]

Lipton

[hard drift]

🤢

[deep sapphire]

well that explains it

[boreal surge]

http://reksointernational.com/products/carbonatedtea.php

[hard drift]

lol true

[modest moss]

I figured try it once, must have been 30 years ago when I was a teen

instant regret

[hard drift]

i wanna try it once now...

[modest moss]

looked like that

[deep sapphire]

[boreal surge]

Haven’t heard of that one actually

[modest moss]

do not recommend

[boreal surge]

I do recommend tebs tho

At least trust the fact that it’s a thing in a country where tea is served everywhere with everything

[sly elk]

this is what I'm used to having

and it's not carbonated lol

[hard drift]

🤢

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-puppet-monkey-sidekick-monkey-you-know-gif-14891458

tea ^

[boreal surge]

I think brisk is okay

[boreal surge]

Milk before or after?

[modest moss]

before

I'll die on this hill and science supports it

[boreal surge]

Just curious.

[modest moss]

the majority here would put milk in after, when using a teabag

and generally before when brewing in a pot

[boreal surge]

Which is admittedly the more convenient option

[modest moss]

but they are wrong to put it in after

you have to be specific about it though

you obviously cannot let the teabag sit in the milk, it won't infuse correctly

so you put milk in the cup, then at the very last second, as the kettle boils and you're ready to pour, you pop the teabag in the mug

and you pour the water slowly, from height

mate I just said most British people don't even make it right

actually heating the milk is a valid method

the important part is ensuring the milk doesn't heat unevenly, denaturing the proteins

this is serious business

and you have to make sure the tea infuses and has suitable time to brew

it's actually fine to microwave the milk in the mug before pouring on the boiling water

you'd only microwave a small amount of milk, as prep

yeah wouldn't do it for coffee, but coffee brews at a lower temp than tea

different beast

at one point I seriously considered trying to simulate lab conditions and do various tea brewing testing

I used to smoke a lot of weed

I don't drink coffee often now, not since I stopped smoking

[jaunty light]

did someone say.. exact procedures!? except I'm just a tea snob, coffee gives me a tummy ache

[sly elk]

lol hank might like this

https://jalopnik.com/that-6-2-liter-ls3-v8-powered-tesla-has-finally-hit-the-1848182532

[dull garnet]

they made a worse tesla

nice

[sly elk]

mhmm]

[paper tusk]

guess Jalopnik finally found rich rebuilds' channel

[odd sand]

Oh God no. Ran the model numbers on the boxes for the monitors they sent us for the new contract. They're both 1080p...

Looks like I'm buying my own then bc I can't go back to trying to work on that after using 4K for 3 years. You can't fit anything on the screen at once

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-allegedly-lowers-geforce-rtx-30-pricing-by-up-to-94-while-sapphire-increases-radeon-rx6000-price-by-up-to-79 there is hope maybe

[warm mesa]

[wide hill]

someone needs to rip off the tesla logo off that car

[deep sapphire]

[deep sapphire]

good money

thats something a shop should be doing anyway

fuckers are insanely heavy, really shouldnt be done without a hoist and multiple bodies to mount it

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-plow-homer-simpson-the-simpsons-truck-plow-king-gif-17824956

[deep sapphire]

same

[deep sapphire]

KING PLOW

that episode is legendary

[modest moss]

yeah a classic

[deep sapphire]

my uncle plows in the winter I've been helping him for years lmao

probably wont help this year though, usually have to do it overnight

[modest moss]

never lived anywhere that'd need plowing

[deep sapphire]

LOTS OF SNOW

VERY COLD

[glossy timber]

i know something that needs plowing
||hank||

[odd sand]

You lower it to the ground then jjjjjam it into gear

[hard drift]

👀

[odd sand]

Plowing is hell on your transmission though bc you're constantly switching between Drive and Reverse though.

[deep sapphire]

It is but can largely be mitigated by coming to a complete stop before you change gears and keep up with fluid changes

Of course most plow drivers don’t bother doing that

My uncles old K2500 had to get the trans rebuilt like… 4 times? Haha

Kinda surprised too the 4L80E is a pretty robust transmission

Unlike the 4L60

[odd sand]

Yeah, a lot of them are hilarious to watch as they fly full speed through the parking lot and slam into the pile at the end.

[deep sapphire]

Which is a flaming dog turd

[odd sand]

Need a damn helmet for CTE heh

[deep sapphire]

Haha

[odd sand]

Those piles were always a lot of fun as a kid bc you could dig your own igloo city into them

Of course you had to make sure you weren't digging into them too deep bc being an avalanche victim in the middle of town is a dumb way to die

[deep sapphire]

haha yeah

growing up I lived in a town house complex and on the end there were circles so the middle always had a huge mound of snow

[dull garnet]

are there any mods that I can report off topic discussion to?

[deep sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/750556928320471040/918329080431128577/kk3jvgy0p9481.png

[sly elk]

yaaay my evga 3080ti is acting funny again 😄

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/nosebleed-gif-13804817

[jaunty light]

Ya first mistake was buying evga

[sly elk]

i'm very good at figuring out exactly what not to buy, and buying it 😄

[lost gust]

someone have the same issue that you get sometimes the directx 11000002 Error?

[deep sapphire]

run dxdiag, same the report and send it to me in pm

save**

[lost gust]

done 🙂

[quaint spear]

hello

😄

I'm happy kinda that I finally get to work on my new job next Tuesday.;

[deep sapphire]

nice, what will you be doing

[quaint spear]

ah

Dietary Aide.

It's at a retirement home called "Pickering Manor"

[deep sapphire]

I’m sure with tons of cuts and scraps on your hands

[pseudo frigate]

I'M STILL NOT SURE WHAT OS IMA BE RUNNING ON MY SERVER

esxi or unraid lmao

[odd sand]

My friend recommend to me to install proxmox if I wanted to run linux and windows containers

Bc the licenses for esxi and hyper-v aren't bad for a single OS, but you need enterprise tier if you want to run multiple

[dull garnet]

i still can't login in less than 2 hours

fuck this game

[pseudo frigate]

i don't pay for esxi anyways, free cuz work xD

[pseudo frigate]

idk it'll be my first ESXI dedicated server if i do.
Doubt i'll put in a second but once you start the hobby..
It seems fun to have a V-sphere environment xD

but i wouldn't know what i need to do with all that power either

[odd sand]

Docker is pretty powerful bc you avoid the versioning nightmare

[pseudo frigate]

i aint gonna put docker on a server

docker became horrible btw

shitty service now

and it's only to be used on raspeberry pi

otherwise you're wasting resources

unraid is 10x better than docker

https://unraid.net/

[odd sand]

I've been learning docker bc it's extensively used in enterprise so...

[pseudo frigate]

fair

[odd sand]

It never ceases to amaze me my coworkers seem to struggle with setting up the teams meetings via the extron every time. It's super simple and takes like 10 secs, but nearly every day they miss some step and are doing mic checks etc.

Set your machine as the audio source on the extron, hit the ... for Devices and select your mic and the extron as sources. Done.

[pseudo frigate]

i mean

ngl

microsoft teams kinda confusing

[odd sand]

I dunno, I've never had an issue with it ever and they seem to have troubles literally every single day. I don't get it.

(Not that I disagree Teams is a clunky pos)

[devout nexus]

it def is i deal with it a lot. azure is also clunky. both our devs and IT team cannot fix some problems

i want to sync a spreadsheet to a data source. im domain logged in and logged into AX. i can use th e full suite of cloud but if i try to sync the data it asks to login to azure which doesnt work. blah blah lots of bad

everyone pointing fingers at eachother but no one can fix it. some kind of mis sync between our domain rules and azure or something

[odd sand]

@devout nexus My current fav is they don't want us having basic auth enabled on workstations, but half of ExchangeOnlineMgmt or more doesn't work if you are only modern authenticated via the new 2.06preview

The most useful cmdlet to me is MessageTrace but it's only exposed if you have Basicauth pass the Oath token

Or how Cloudappsecurity only lists the registered authenticators in the "new UI view" ... if you are under the classic view you have no idea that exists

[ashen mirage]

Yeah I've noticed Teams tends to crap out when it comes to integrations not named office

[quaint spear]

need help with a "Buffalo" LinkStation 210 NAS

[ashen mirage]

But it is way better than what our groups used to have to use... pidgin & Skype happened shudder

[odd sand]

Tell your boss Teamspeak is the new MS voice tool /s

[quaint spear]

okay, my modem is from Verizon FIOS.

[pseudo frigate]

my workplace banned the use of slack..

we gotta do everything through email now :/

things have never been so messy

OH YOU ALREADY SENT THAT EMAIL?

[odd sand]

WTF? They banned slack for email? At least I would have expected Teams or another collab tool

[pseudo frigate]

nope

email

shitty

outlook

email.

"cuz its easier to document in a ticket"

[odd sand]

It's also easier to phish people if everyone is working out of email.

What ticketing system do they use? ServiceNow? Jira?

[pseudo frigate]

SELF MADE

LMFAO

[quaint spear]

help! this is drivnig me crazy.

[pseudo frigate]

i have no clue

i only know that it really just doesn't work

[odd sand]

Hooboy

[pseudo frigate]

but it's supposed to get NEW FUNCTIONALITIES IN JANUARY

AND THEN THE PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED

we'll see

already got my new job ready if everything goes to shit next year

[odd sand]

The only thing they understand is time and money. Document how much longer it takes to resolve tickets via email

[pseudo frigate]

they want everyone to document EVERYTHING and then they proceed to go mental towards our helpdesk for not picking up the phone fast enough

but they literally need 15 minutes per call to make a proper ticket according to their ridiculous standards xD

[quaint spear]

😦

I have it hooked up to the modem but via ethernet.