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hot shadow
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n o

hazy frost
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I mean the option maybe would be cool but only if it can be turned off and doesn’t increase the price by anything meaningful

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Another semi Interesting gimmick you use twice a year

old jetty
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Oh, the other thing I forgot to ask yesterday since I want to change my cpu. I have corsair rm850 power supply, that one I can just keep, ye?

sharp star
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yes

tepid gulch
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850 is good for almost everything™

hazy frost
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Anything normal consumers buy

tepid gulch
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Yeah

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Unless you're rich and buy something dumb

severe flax
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My PC power draw when gaming

neon shell
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just from clipchamp bloatware

tepid gulch
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7900xtx uses way less power than nvidia cards

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A 4080 can potentially trigger voltage protection on an 850w psu

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But you need a 4080 or higher to do so

severe flax
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the PSU-toaster-inator

sharp star
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Yeah there's a ton of problems with 12VHPWR that I can attribute to both Nvidia's shitty engineering and the connector itself

old jetty
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Well, I do have a 4080... so

wise jay
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im proud to say my 4090 hasnt caught fire yet

wraith agate
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When I left my home nearly 2 months ago my 4090 was fine

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My mom did not say it has caught on fire since then so I assume it is still fine

sharp star
# old jetty Well, I do have a 4080... so

I feel like the 40 series was largely “fine” in terms of engineering but when they really, really went for that AI push with the 50 series they cut corners and it shows

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I will never let people forget “4090 performance at $549”

old jetty
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oh, ye, I was talking more in relation to the PSU thing

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side note, any suggestion for an air cooler? I was looking around and while Noctua NH-D15 G2 seemed the best thing available, it doesn't seem to fit in my case cause it needs 5-10 extra mm

real edge
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im satisfied with my deepcool ak620

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but does deepcool even exist anymore

sharp star
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Yes

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Just not in the US

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There’s also heavy competition from Thermalright (duh) and ID-Cooling

old jetty
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oh, ye, thermalright came up while searching with Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE

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but it does feel a bit too cheap tbh, so dunno how good it is

sharp star
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It’s GOATed

old jetty
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FYI I'm thinking of getting a Ryzen 7 9800X3RD

sharp star
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A PA120 or PS120 is sufficient enough for that

old jetty
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and ye, the options that should fit are be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5, that, and scythe fuma 3 I think

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just from a general research

sharp star
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I had to swap off my PS120 because of weather lol

real edge
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the only bad thing ive heard about the thermalright one was the installation was a pain

old jetty
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oh, and the old Noctua NH-D15

sharp star
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I thought Thermalright coolers were fine for installation as of late

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Yeah there’s like… almost nothing that justifies Noctua’s price premium nowadays

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unless you’re a fan of Noctua brown or you want their support

real edge
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the only positive thing about noctua nowdays is the support

old jetty
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nah, I don't care tbh

real edge
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they make installation kits for a decade or more

old jetty
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it was really between PS120, dark rock pro 5 or scythe fuma

real edge
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they still make up to date installation kits for the original dh15

sharp star
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PS120

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Normal or SE depends on whether you like the heatpipes or not

old jetty
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Mhm, I don't care about ahestetic tbh, so I would go with the one with the better performance

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Also that isn't bigger than a 150mm

sharp star
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Yeah then go with the PS120

hazy frost
old jetty
sharp star
old jetty
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Oh, also since I'm letting someone else build everything, I don't care about buying a thermal paste, ye?

sharp star
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If you want to supply the thermal compound then do so

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I personally like PTM7950

real edge
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I have tall ram and all I had to do was put my tower fan more up and it worked

old jetty
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As for motherboard, I went with an ASUS TUF Gaming B650-Plus WiFi, but from my understanding any b650 is fine

sharp star
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just make sure you update the BIOS beforehand since you’re getting a 9800X3D

lost python
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or else it wont work
and for that you will need a usb stick

old jetty
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Ye, I'll tell the technician

hazy frost
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theyre mediocre compared to other options anyway plus the fact asus have been shit with customer service and warranties recently

wild wyvern
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@hazy frost not for my place

sharp star
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what

wild wyvern
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In malaysia its an good brand iirc

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Not sure about the US etc

sharp star
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Even here in my side of Southeast Asia in the Philippines I wouldn’t make Asus my first choice

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They do have a ton of marketing though

wild wyvern
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That is true

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Oh i didnt know ur from the philippines

sharp star
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Yeah I made it clear several times that I’m in Southeast Asia and I have also repeatedly made fun of my own Filipino heritage

wild wyvern
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Well

potent arrow
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just means it's more available

wild wyvern
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Oh actually yes

sharp star
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I am perfectly okay with my PSU being Asus because it’s just a rebranded Seasonic

hazy frost
hazy frost
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They butchered the CV/CX and CXm stuff for the new ones

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I still wouldn’t want anything ASUS on the off chance it does fail tho

hot shadow
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THERE SHE ISSSSSSSSS

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WE PILKING

neon shell
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Does anyone know how I can get rid of reshade? I know it has it's own built in uninstaller but everytime I use it, I open the game and it's still there

sharp star
neon shell
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how do I do that lol

sharp star
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XIVLauncher has the option to do that

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!faq repair

opal pantherBOT
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File Repair

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After installation, open the launcher and right click the login button. There will be an option to 'Repair game files'

Please be aware this will reset your installation entirely so it is strongly suggested you back up your settings.

tepid gulch
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Explain what you need 500hz for please

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I wonder what minecraft looks like at 500fps

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But actually rendering 500 frames

hot shadow
neon shell
# sharp star !faq repair

Can this fix the weird fps issues that I've been having? I've been having fps issues in certain areas in certain dt zones

sharp star
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Possibly

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I don’t know if it actually will

neon shell
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doesn't hurt to try

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I'm desperate at this point to fix this shit

lost python
neon shell
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I'm so freaking happy

sharp star
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but yes clean your installation if you suspect something is wrong

neon shell
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I'm just gonna use Nvidia fidelity instead

hazy frost
tepid gulch
dense fable
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wouldn't be surprised to see some of these at major esports events

hazy frost
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a lot of esports players just preferred using the super high refresh rate TN and IPS stuff they could get before, maybe the 500hz oled ones would change that

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especially for home use when ur playing hours of comp shooters or something and u end up with the hud burned in to your display lol

dense fable
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last I've heard, the burn in issues are mostly solved by now, with some clever firmware/software tricks

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but idk about these cutting edge experimental models specifically though

hazy frost
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If ur playing the same game for 6+ hours every day or working in office software or something you will inevitably get it fairly quickly for the price it is to buy them

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If u play a mixed lot of games and don’t do much work on it you’re unlikely to see it for a long time now tho which is good

dense fable
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a couple of folks I know got some heavily discounted oled monitors that were previously display pieces at a store, with several hundred hours of the same picture sitting on the screen, and the burn-in disappeared after a single round of de-burn cycling for both of them

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that's what I meant by clever firmware/software stuff

hazy frost
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Yeah a few hundred hours isn’t a long time tho

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Ur going to hit over 1000 in a year most likely as a conservative estimate

dense fable
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as long as the de-burn cycling keeps doing its thing well, that seems fine to me

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(if it keeps doing its thing well)

hazy frost
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That’s not how it works tho

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U can’t de burn in anything

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U can get rid of temporary image retention that would be part of the problem by running refresh cycles which is part of what slows it down now vs older models

dense fable
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hmm, I see

dire viper
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Partee Racing makes these crazy nice OEM+ engines, 20,000 USD entry price

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video shows a large part of the machining process down to the measuring of the block

hazy frost
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Anyone with a brain knows they shouldn’t be using ChatGPT for therapy

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Unfortunately it seems a large majority of the world do not fall into that category of people

severe flax
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@sharp star

wide hill
tepid gulch
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Everyone knows vacuums are used to keep things cool not airflow

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That's why every pc comes with a vacuum pump instead of case fans

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Duh

dense fable
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yes, and while you're at it, separate the air from the components completely with a perfect vacuum, so that they're only losing heat by radiation, and not by conduction or convection 🧠

lost python
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oh well, time for a new GPU

sharp star
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died?

lost python
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my gfs pc: tl;dr: pc would not show a signal via GPU after cold boot until restarted several times. last week it refused entirely.
thought its the board, because other GPUs didnt work, but after swapping still nothing. after swapping everything except cpu, we decided it must be the CPU thats dying.
upgraded to AM5 and no success, still black.
got a 4th mainboard (not including mine) to try and it detected my GPU, displayed signal just fine, just not with her 6700xt. Now the mobo also shows the VRAM LED, which the others didnt.
i suspect either the PSU or the GPU must have killed the PCIe slots on the other boards, because even my GPU didnt work there anymore, or we got super unlucky and 3 boards all had dead slots.
since the newest mobo works, i bought a new GPU and she will get my 6900xt

real edge
wraith agate
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And that was the tl;dr

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Jeebus

lost python
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months of stress haha

potent arrow
wild wyvern
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not sure why my monitor speakers are abit soft then suddenly loud

hot shadow
wild wyvern
lost python
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because monitor speakers are known to be incredibly bad?

wild wyvern
lost python
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quality

wild wyvern
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sound quality then?

lost python
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yes

real edge
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monitor speakers are a waste of manufacturing time and money

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nobody reasonable uses them, any half decent pair of headphones is much better

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worlds and leagues better

potent arrow
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you are better off getting 2$ shit headphones from somewhere

wild wyvern
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i do have one

real edge
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ordered new PSU, hopefully after that I can put my power limit on the GPU back to 100% lol

hazy frost
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A half decent pair of headphones definitely isn’t just ‘better’ than monitors but cheap monitors are particularly bad

lost python
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not to be confused with monitor speakers though, which are indeed commonly used

lost python
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i certainly did not expect my new GPU to be almost as long as my fullsize keyboard and as thick as my hand is wide

potent arrow
lost python
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its also thicker than the cube is high

wraith agate
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Interesting usage of a Rubik's cube

cerulean talon
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Gotta get rid of those watts some how. shrug Can't beat physics.

lost python
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it eats less than my previous card

cerulean talon
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O.o What'd you go from/to?

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Granted, everyone's gotten lazy with the oversized coolers, but hearing actual watt droppage is just weird.

hazy frost
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They do also stay cooler and quieter now

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I’d much rather have giant ones and a few small options if u need them

hazy frost
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350mm for the XFX ones I think

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I think the 9070xt does use more tho or the same about 310w

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6900 and 6950 got real hot tho while being smaller

lost python
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yeah the card is quite cool which is neat. my previous one hit up to 100°C on hotspot, which i still think is quite alright for being a reference model.
and ye its an xfx 9070xt mercury. ironically the non-oc version but i am currently running it at 100mhz above the OC versions clockrates.
they both have similar TDP in theory but the 6900xt was often running at more than that plus ofc the crazy high spikes all the time

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and also ye its 360mm length and like almost 80mm thickness

hazy frost
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The Mercury is great it’s one of the few I’d get

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Massive tho lol

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My 4070ti is 360mm too for no reason but boy it’s quiet

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With my profile it’s about 9070xt power draw like 300w

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Hearing no gpu fan is a blessing

lost python
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yeah it seemed like one of the best choices for the price

hazy frost
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I’m running +400mhz clock above stock LOL

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And +1650 memory

hazy frost
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My heart says yeston sakura every time tho

lost python
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these are my results after several games played today which doesnt seem too bad.
the power spikes are crazy but apparently to be expected? still lower than those of the 6900xt tho haha

hazy frost
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The only thing u have to watch on new GPUs seems to be vram temps

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Both AMD and Nvidia run them very close to engineering spec max by default even without OC now

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For 40/50 series and 6000-9000 for AMD

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That’s my main problem with my OC stability like I can run it higher but vram hitting 100+ degrees is bad

lost python
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i dont remember who said it but i remember reading 100 or something was the rated max for the 9070 xt?

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if the sensors and HWInfo are to be trusted, then i should be fine

hazy frost
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100 should be for most but afaik it’s more like u want 95

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At most

hazy frost
lost python
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nah i wont manually tune it any further

hazy frost
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84.5° hotspot max seems higher than I thought it would be on urs but that’s the only one that seems strange to me

lost python
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need to find more games that arent terribly optimized to test performance though

hazy frost
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Lmao

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You’ll have to play something pre 2022/23 then

lost python
hazy frost
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That’s fair

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I spent ages on my fan curve to make it not an oven while still being quiet it’s a pain

lost python
hazy frost
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Ray tracing performance on the 9070xt is like leagues better than the 6900xt especially tho

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If u want to test the big differences

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It’s like twice the performance gap with RT on vs off

lost python
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hmm what RT games do i have though

hazy frost
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I hope u own cyberpunk

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Game of the decade

lost python
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if vortex allows me to circumvent the steam update requirement then i could try it

hazy frost
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It’s still Nvidia biased as a game but it’s one of if not the best games to use RT still

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Alan wake is also good if u have it

lost python
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dont have the new one. but i should play control someday

hazy frost
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Games I noticed a big difference in but aren’t talked about are probably forza horizon 5 or the spiderman games

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There’s a lot of games now where it’s just like slightly better and barely a performance hit for new GPUs where the 6900xt would’ve taken a huge hit turning it on tho

lost python
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Ah right i havent played forza since i boughr the 6900xt

hazy frost
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To me it’s the same difference as going from medium to high textures or smth where maybe u could play it lower but it’s a bit better and doesn’t change much for performance

hazy frost
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The lighting just looks a lot better overall even tho it’s not like obvious u have RT on imo

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It makes a lot of textures look better in every game I’ve used it in at a minimum

lost python
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ok cyberpunk hits 64fps with FSR quality and raytracing on ultra

hazy frost
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Sounds about right

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I hit 55 with path tracing and DLSS quality I think

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The 9070xt can probably do over 30 with it on still

lost python
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switching to psycho makes me drop down to 55. at worst hmm

hazy frost
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Can u turn path tracing on?

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I thought u could now on that one

lost python
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i can tell you that path trracing gave me like 5fps on my 6800xt

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6900*

hazy frost
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I think with psycho I got 80 then path tracing 55 lol

hazy frost
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U can probably do it now if u don’t mind 30-45fps

lost python
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1fps

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literally

hazy frost
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Or going down to balanced fsr

hazy frost
lost python
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yea

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dropped to FSR balanced and i got 30-40fps now, but oh god the ghosting

hazy frost
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Lmao

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Yeah I think most people use lossless scaling for path tracing on it

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The in game fsr isn’t very good still

lost python
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hmm there must be something else bugging out because it drops down super hard and then takes a couple minutes to go back up again

hazy frost
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What resolution is it 1440p?

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I wouldn’t think ur running out of vram for it or something

lost python
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ye 1440p

hazy frost
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I had that in dogtown areas bc of how much more intensive it was

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But I have 12GB so

lost python
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OH yeah i am out of vram

hazy frost
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Damn that’s wild

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Using 16gb

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Idk how that’s happened LOL

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I use 11.5

lost python
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its ok without, but with i run out of vram. probably doesnt help i have a stream open too

hazy frost
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Probably

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But yeah would be playable if u worked out why it’s doing that atl

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It’s pretty good

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Cyberpunk is my most replayed game and it’s all that’s stopped me swapping to a 9070xt

lost python
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ok intel XESS is a bit more stable in reflections, because the FSR ghosting is terrible in the reflections

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im sorry but i never finished cyberpunk myself haha
too often i had thos moment of "oh shit new big update is coming, i should wait"

hazy frost
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It’s one of if not the best game ive played ever now

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The update for 2.0 and dlc or whatever changed so much, story was always great but the gameplay lives up to it now

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The only thing I find insufferable is the driving physics it’s like an ice rink

hazy frost
lost python
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there are mods to update the FSR version but i havent checked since FSR came out

hazy frost
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Oh the game officially has fsr4 now if u update it too

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Are u using fsr 3 lmao

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That would be awful

lost python
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but ye with stuff like a stream open, i am running out of vram on psycho too

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i didnt update it yet, because my modpack didnt update yet KEKW

hazy frost
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Damn I had that issue

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Had to find new stuff

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But yeah fsr 3 is real bad

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Fsr 4 would get rid of any of the visual issues I think

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U can probably use lossless scaling on the version u have if u ever want to play it tho instead

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Way better than fsr 3 in game still

lost python
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hmm might have to check

hazy frost
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I can’t imagine using 16gb ever

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I sure wish I had more than 12 tho

lost python
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i sure wish this card had more too, but ah well, it is what it is. gotta continue tiling my renders in blender to cut down the vram cost DogKek

hazy frost
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Tbf if u only have game open I don’t think you’ll run out for a long while

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Rendering is a pain tho

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The 5080super if it’s 24gb would be the one

lost python
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or something bugged because it tells me i am using almost 4gb by just having the stream and discord etc open

hazy frost
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I’m not sure how that would happen but I wouldn’t be entirely surprised if it did somehow

lost python
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ok yeah it dropped down a lot after closing firefox and co

cerulean talon
cerulean talon
hazy frost
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I don’t use that much when I’m playing games and have a few other things open tbh

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I manage to play cyberpunk maxed out with 12GB with all my other apps running somehow

cerulean talon
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I've got vram to burn, so nothing's getting pushed out, but my system looooves to nomfh on vram.

hazy frost
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Idk how I’ve had less issues with it tbh, it makes sense that it would I’ve just avoided it somehow

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I do keep minimal open but still there’s always something working in the background

cerulean talon
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Yeh, generally if you keep it in your task bars/etc it's much safer. Mine's not rendering anything on my alternate desktops, so I've got alot of vram-heavy stuff over there.

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Amusingly, the most lethal thing I've found recently is the ubiquiti interface, their new local interface loads so much JS it nearly crashes my browser. xD

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But yeh, idle, I'm munching on 8 gig of vram.

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Jetbrains likes to use a bunch now too because they're all gpu accel, which really hurt for awhile.

hazy frost
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I usually have smth on other monitor but don’t experience much issue

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Waiting for the day Nvidia finally implements vram compression stuff they go on about for real

cerulean talon
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Need to bring back vram virtual disks nods

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VRAM ramdisks were hilarious on the *90's for awhile.

dire viper
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The Ferrari 550 Prodrive is the last V12 Ferrari to win at Le Mans and has to be one of, if not the BEST-SOUNDING CARS EVER to appear on the Hagerty YouTube channel. Henry Catchpole is the lucky chap behind the wheel.

Today we are used to seeing the Ferrari Factory Team competing in endurance racing with the 499P, but for many years the Scuder...

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very cool teknology

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Prodrive being the British Motorsports firm

hazy frost
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Many good motorsports things come from this country despite our complete inability to build good production cars for most of recent history

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Even the stock 550 is one of if not my favourite cars they made

dire viper
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the 550 with handling package is a proper car

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only issue is it is front and rear double wishbone, which limits it a bit, but still very good

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if it was multi link rear and front wishbone, it would still be one of the best handling cars produced to this day

hazy frost
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Yeah I mean it is still a GT car as well which makes it even more impressive it handled so well at the time even compared to much less comfortable options

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They’re not too expensive to buy one yet compared to the more desirable Ferraris how long will that last

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They didn’t make that many from what I know

dire viper
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the 550 and 575 were fairly low production, and they have started going up in price

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specifically 550 Handling Package cars are very very desirable, being the most expensive

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it is the basis of the Le Mans winning pro drive cars :)

hazy frost
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Still under 100k for mid mileage ones for now

dire viper
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handling package is a must have if you intend to drive the car hard, but yea

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think it changes mechanical bits, but I dont remember

hazy frost
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Maybe though would be a dream to have one at all especially if prices get worse

hot shadow
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my car batt died today

lost python
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Yes

lost python
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@hazy frost im stupid. of course my vram runs full with raytracing when i am also running 1200mods for the game

hazy frost
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Oh yeah that makes more sense LOL

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I’m only using like 10 or so

tepid gulch
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1200

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Wtf

old jetty
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BTW question what is the difference between thermal paste and thermal pads? Cause I was thinking of buying the artic mx6 or mx4 (dunno which one is better) to use on my new cpu

tepid gulch
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Thermal pads are less commonly used for CPUs but can be. They generally are worse at dissipating heat but are easier and have no mess involved. Thermal paste is generally better but thermal pads also don't have to be replaced for longer periods as well

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Tldr thermal paste better but harder

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Pad for lazy people

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But depending on the cpu a pad might not be good enough

old jetty
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Oh, swell, I'm going for a ryzen 7 9800x3d, so I guess thermal paste

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As for that, artic mx6 is just generally the best from my understanding, ye?

potent arrow
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defacto it just works yeah

hazy frost
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Any paste is good enough unless u have a very power hungry cpu

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A lot of coolers come with thermal paste included if ur buying a new one anyway

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If ur reusing a cooler tho yeah buy whatever thermal paste its all functionally the same for a 9800x3d

potent arrow
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all of my CPUs used thermal epoxy

hazy frost
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Everyone should use Liquid Metal

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Very safe

potent arrow
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Like ten-fifteen years later

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I forgot

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and was tearing apart a few PC's

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and was like WHY IS THIS COOLER SO STUCK

hazy frost
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Lmfao

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I don’t think I’m old enough to have had that experience with my own stuff

potent arrow
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thermal epoxy phase was fucked

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FX CPUs

hazy frost
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Anything that used that I wouldn’t have ever taken apart just sold or replaced

potent arrow
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goodlord

hazy frost
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Or not old enough to be allowed to take them apart either way

potent arrow
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the 6300 needed a 800w psu...

potent arrow
hazy frost
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I know it’s been AMD all the way for my entire life actually using PCs atp I’m glad

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Or atl when they weren’t better they weren’t FX bad

potent arrow
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y'know how things draw a lot of power right now

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back then it was a random power draw for basically the wrong reasons

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that shit

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was meme

hazy frost
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People do take for granted that stuff got way more efficient and well designed before and now it’s not even gone back to as bad as it was a decade or two ago

potent arrow
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the really bad acer Veriton ones

hazy frost
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I had a laptop from 2005? I’m not even sure what was in it

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It was an experience

sharp star
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Bulldozer was so funny

hazy frost
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My upgrade was to a vaio when people stil had those which had a quad core I7 lmao

sharp star
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the FX-9590 was a CPU alright

hazy frost
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Every desktop I had was Intel for a long time

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I didn’t buy anything new during the times of am4 and prior to that there was no reason to have amd anyway

potent arrow
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Vaio...

hazy frost
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Back in ye olden times

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I don’t miss the vaio

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Got stuck booting trying to read a non existent drive for 5 minutes and couldn’t change it to not do that

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For 4 years I had to wait 5-10 minutes every time I pressed the power button

rich schooner
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I come back a bit late
But I solved my issue
I went into « regedit » and I disabled the mpo
There’s something to download on Nvidia website to modify it automatically mpo_disable.reg
nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157
and if it doesn’t work or becomes worse, download mpo_restore.reg

I thought it was interesting to share with you how I resolved the issue of screen stuttering after alt+tab

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And 4-5 days of test, no more problems

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Can also interest you @wild wyvern praygeshine

hot shadow
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i used to be so jelly of girls with a pink vaio

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not because of specs, but because that pink vaio was huge and cute, that's it

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THAT'S IT

hazy frost
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I had a grey one

hot shadow
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WHY ARE LAPTOPS SO UGLY AND BLACK OR GREY USUALLY

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IVE HAD IT

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😭

hazy frost
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They don’t make enough anything in pink

hot shadow
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started putting a gazillion stickers

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i vajazzled my last laptop as a student

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🌟

hazy frost
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I can’t bring myself to put stickers on laptops bc I don’t keep them long enough

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And I know I’ll sell them

hot shadow
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o ive sold one like that but i gently lifted all of them

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i only had like 4 anyway

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a lil lemon juice gets the paper off

hazy frost
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Probably true but I will always worry

hard drift
inland mauve
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was looking for batteries today and i first found a bunch of rechargeable batteries that i think i bought a decade ago and promptly forgot about, and then a charger that i don't remember buying at all

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guess we're doing rechargeable batteries now

vast apex
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Just a check, UserBenchmark is still usable/reliable, yes?

real edge
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it never was usable or reliable

wraith agate
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Lmao

sharp star
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And now AMD is stomping Intel into the dirt

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I still wouldn’t give them the time of day though

vast apex
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I see.

tepid gulch
inland mauve
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this video covers how UserBenchmark started to sabotage the reviews and comparisons with AMD

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it comes down to the owner believing that AMD "cheats" at benchmarks because of their technologies, and he implemented penalties in the comparison algorithms that artificially lower the scores of AMD products

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and it went downhill from there

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it's sad

tepid gulch
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Cheating with hardware

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Based

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Nvidia cheats by using dlss

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And dlaa

severe flax
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Got curious and searched

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A single graphics card costs more than my entire build jesus

lost python
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Oh wow thats one of the cheap ones

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Rare to see one below 3k over here

lost python
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There are so many 40+ guys still believing intel is king and the most stable and that you have to pair intel with nvidia and amd with amd etc

sharp star
inland mauve
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intel and nvidia got too confident

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it's a classic "only halo could kill halo" scenario

hazy frost
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I still speak to engineering or CS students who think Intel is better and say ‘I know what I’m talking about because I major in X thing’ lol

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The idea that Intel is the premium brand after they lied to people had their CPUs die and get outperformed somehow still existing

inland mauve
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they don't teach you what brand is better in CS

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what the fuck

hazy frost
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Lmao, it’s just average student in those fields thinking that their major gives them knowledge on vaguely related topics so they can justify their incorrect opinions

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But normal people will listen to someone if they say ‘I’m in IT or an engineer’ still

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More cores more better except when Intel had less cores

inland mauve
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bruh I am still so pissed over the disintegrating CPU bullshit

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Intel you bitches

hazy frost
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The fact they knew and then also lied and tried to not give compensation

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It happening at all was bad enough before that

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How many times have they ‘fixed’ it with bios updates now anyway

inland mauve
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way to destroy your reputation and all the goodwill you took years to build

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promises from companies are worth nothing

hazy frost
inland mauve
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their reputation just another resource to burn for more money

hazy frost
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They’re still being sold in every laptop and multiple handhelds

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AMD could help themselves by actually getting manufacturers to use hardware they have designed

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How many laptop GPUs did AMD have and then not get anyone to use in a real model in the last few years

sharp star
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Intel burning their rep because they got way, way too complacent

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Among other things

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I feel like this was very avoidable in so many ways

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But also probably not

hazy frost
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No good management wants that

sharp star
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I also think that trying to fight the Gigahertz Wars in a market where X3D exists is extremely funny and also humiliating for Intel

hazy frost
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To be fair it clearly works on a large number of people because a majority of the people I talk to still think bigger clock speed bigger core count better

sharp star
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bigger number better

hazy frost
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x3d doesn’t mean much to anyone uneducated on it because naming schemes are already convoluted who knows what that is

sharp star
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https://youtu.be/cS27ol07bSo crying at whatever the hell HP cooked up

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I thought it was pretty common knowledge that HP is just awful across the board

severe flax
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I kinda miss when Steve wasnt getting into fistfights w Goliaths of the industry

But also the Goliaths are the ones pissing in the pool so someone had to do it

brave oxide
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i can only imagine the crashout that userbenchmark guy had when intel 13th/14th gen started crashing and burning

sharp star
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lol

hazy frost
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It’s just avoiding how much crap they have as well to get to the good deals

sharp star
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I need to find that weird ad HP used for their desktop

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Because holy fuck HP marketing was on some fucking shrooms

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I just saw it

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I lost it at the old lady

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actually crying

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There is a non-zero chance that HP's marketing did a ton of hallucinogens when they came up with this

tepid gulch
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3d v cache will just keep getting better with time

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Meanwhile Intel be like, we got higher clock and hyper threading

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Cool but like does that actually help you against AMD

sharp star
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Yeah as soon as I saw the 9800X3D drop I knew I had to get one

warped siren
tepid gulch
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Idk how AMD is gonna improve it

warped siren
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shes giving yakuza 3

sharp star
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X3D CPUs are already good but second-gen X3D is very improved over the first gen

sharp star
tepid gulch
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Is the 7800x3d gen 1?

sharp star
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So the venerable 5700X3D and 5800X3D as well as the 7800X3D are "first-gen"

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the 9800X3D is considered "second-gen" because they changed the structure and it allows for overclocking because of that

tepid gulch
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But do you really need overclocking beyond pbo

sharp star
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Eh not really

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But undervolting has been a godsend with them

tepid gulch
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It becomes a game of how stable you can get it

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I don't like games like that

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I usually set shit on auto and let the CPU do what it wants

sharp star
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I forgot my exact settings but like

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I set it so that it's not even going above 1.24v at most

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On average it's like 1.18v while gaming

tepid gulch
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I got a good 7800x3d it likes my motherboard a lot I've had no issues

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It's a good bin

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I'll upgrade eventually to a 9800

wraith agate
tepid gulch
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I gotta upgrade my bios but I gotta research what the most stable version for my motherboard is

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But at the same time my current bios has been stable

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So like why bother

odd talon
sharp star
hazy frost
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Those subreddits are always fun to read through if ur really bored

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Side effect of losing some more faith in humanity

sharp star
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"It's from Star Wars so it can't be racist" yeah okay sure

hazy frost
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It was fine until people started getting more questionable with the words they used

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But the only times I’ve seen that is when other people on Twitter are complaining about it tbf

hot shadow
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build-a-boy

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then they go post when the AI bf breaks up with you worri

wraith agate
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therefore you cannot be racist to an AI

sharp star
# wraith agate robots are not a race

I mean yeah but also I think the “it’s from Star Wars so it can’t be racist” argument falls apart when you remember that Ahmed Best spent his post-Phantom Menace career being ridiculed for even playing Jar Jar and nearly taking his own life as a result

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And that Jar Jar was seen as a racist caricature as well

wraith agate
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yeah that's just a terrible argument

sharp star
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Watto as well

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People seeing death flags all over Watto earlier this year though

wraith agate
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huh?

sharp star
# wraith agate huh?

there was a comic released earlier this year that fans took as Watto getting killed by Darth Vader during previews

wraith agate
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aaah

sharp star
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Spoilers: ||it never happened||

wraith agate
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I see

sharp star
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me continuing to watch the 9070 XT drop in price

hazy frost
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It’s not gone lower than £590 still here but it wasn’t as expensive as other countries in the first place I guess

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Still £100 less than a 5070ti

lost python
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630€ here, 5070 ti starts at 780€ haha
everyone i know still got the 5070 ti regardless

real edge
hazy frost
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5070ti starting at £700 here and 9070xt at £590

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Cheapest 5070ti isn’t in stock

hot shadow
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but selfaware so they just shitpost there

manic basalt
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femcelgrippysockjail..

hazy frost
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I love that

buoyant parrot
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femcelgrippysockjail,,,

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i gotta go there

dire viper
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It’s just self loathing people nobody likes

inland mauve
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the femcel part I understand but why grippysock

lost python
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oh cool, if AMD didnt make a typo, then all DX12 games that support FSR 3.1 got whitelisted for FSR4 now

cerulean talon
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AMD would never make a typo.

hot shadow
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since it's uh, happened a lot

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because if you are crazy enough to end up in the ward, you also come out with a new gf every time

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those people get laid more often than avg people

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unsure if america moment or what

hazy frost
lost python
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damn, FSR4 really does look a lot better

severe flax
sharp star
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nope

odd talon
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YouTubes auto dubbing feature is stupid

tepid gulch
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And you can just have accessibility settings read the captions for you if you're deaf

odd talon
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Plus the viewer can't turn it off

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Only the uploader can turn off the auto dubb

tepid gulch
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Wait

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Fr

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I haven't tried it so i wouldn't know

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But that's awful

hazy frost
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Whyre we autodubbing when auto subs barely work if at all half the time how about fix that first

tepid gulch
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Exactly

buoyant wasp
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remember when everyone was blaming Microsoft for recent Windows 11 SSD issues? Phison says "many of the reports originate from media testing conducted on hardware running early versions of firmware and BIOS" 😬 Full details, below 👇 www.theverge.com/report/77420...

-# Windows 11 SSD issues blamed on reviewers using ‘early versions of firmware’
A Windows update hasn’t broken your SSD

sharp star
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Incredible

buoyant wasp
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Always stay updated uwucarby

sharp star
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I always keep my BIOS up to date, maybe that’s why I’m not seeing issues

sharp star
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My SSD firmware is also release versions

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So yeah I'm safe on those fronts

hazy frost
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They say it’s because of firmware but this wasn’t breaking anything before the windows update still

sharp star
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It's so fucking muddy

hazy frost
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Little of both I’d imagine lol but no one wants to get the blame

sharp star
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I'm still not experiencing those issues after firmware and BIOS updates but Jesus Christ

hazy frost
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I simply don’t use windows 11

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Saved

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I don’t update my bios or firmware tho ngl

hot shadow
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I like how bios/uefi update is so easy this decade

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I don't have to flash jackshit

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and the interface is a lot nicer

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it affects optimizing ram timings and such so it's also best to actually do it

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wow my 36yo friend finally built his first PC all by himself

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today he has become a man

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coming of age

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aaaaaand it won't turn on. laughnuke

sharp star
hot shadow
odd talon
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Did he pay the blood price yet

hot shadow
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I think he did scrape his arm on a heatsink yes

hazy frost
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Cursed to suffer forever

sharp star
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Always gotta deal with those little scrapes and cuts you don't notice until you take a good look at your hands

hot shadow
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mine did that before then something I did stopped it

hazy frost
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I updated mine once a while ago

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Did nothing

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I must suffer

glossy timber
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modern camera bumps drive me insane

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my phone won't fit on my wireless charger properly

hazy frost
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how

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all the wireless chargers ive had were thicker than the bump is to put it down

potent arrow
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magsafe

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amgsafe my beloved

sly walrus
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don't you dare invoke the words of the dead, apple

sharp star
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Oh shit I forgot this was happening

sly walrus
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"our innovative Liquid Ass"

sharp star
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Here it is, new AirPods Pro revision

sly walrus
#

live ai translation

sharp star
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☹️

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I hate AI but this is probably one of the few applications that might be useful

sly walrus
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almost like people should have never been using ai for creative shit

sharp star
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Use AI for practical shit if anything

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But sure, get generative AI to keep pissing their filters

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I find it super fucking funny that it's not considered revolutionary unless Apple does it

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It's the one thing that pissed me off about tech for years

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lost python
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i got my gf a lian li 217 and man.
its a 100€ case that comes with better build quality, better features and more accessories than most 150-200€+ cases i have touched

sly walrus
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your workout now includes a hype man

lost python
sly walrus
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meanwhile, twenty years ago, they'd just get james murphy to make a 45 minute ep

sharp star
sly walrus
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why am i seeing so much of tim cook

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where's the other guy

sharp star
sly walrus
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"we then blow vape smoke all over the glass"

tepid gulch
sly walrus
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the other guy that they'd throw back to between every segment

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the guy that wasn't tim

tepid gulch
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Steve Jobs?

sharp star
sly walrus
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sure

tepid gulch
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Idk anyone from apple except Tim Cook

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and the og Steve Jobs

sly walrus
#

not woz?

#

i guess he was only at apple for like a decade

tepid gulch
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Oh right Woz

sly walrus
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those are some nice bands

sharp star
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Too bad you gotta pay out the ass for them

sly walrus
sly walrus
#

and to introduce ultra, we have gone to the wasteland

hazy frost
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Samsung or Apple or Google incredible, xiaomi or honor or something terrible

sharp star
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okay iPhone time

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iPhone 17

sly walrus
#

DESTINY RISING

hard drift
sly walrus
#

in the time it took to show iphone 17, six hours passed

hard drift
#

The iphone air 🤢

sly walrus
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holy fuck that's thin

hard drift
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At the major cost of battery life

sly walrus
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"colors that evoke lightness"

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anyway here's space black

#

apple has caught up to nokia

hard drift
#

Everyone will always want black

#

Black and white are always safe colors

sly walrus
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high density battery

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so they sacrificed something else

hard drift
#

Lets see their claim about battery ConcernFroge

lost python
#

i dont like how thin it is

hard drift
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Same

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If it was a fold phone maybe but for a regular brick not a chance

lost python
#

if i had it,i would immediately slap a fat dbrand case on it anyway

hard drift
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Hell yeah

#

The new tank case cool_flushed

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Wtf is thread

sly walrus
#

what the fuck is thread

#

do they have proprietary wireless now

hard drift
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Damn so they focused on efficiency to make the air useful for battery life

lost python
#

cool AI filter but with fancy words

hard drift
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Lol

sly walrus
#

Thread is an IPv6-based, low-power mesh networking technology for Internet of things (IoT) products. The Thread protocol specification is available at no cost; however, this requires agreement and continued adherence to an end-user license agreement (EULA), which states "Membership in Thread Group is necessary to implement, practice, and ship Th...

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it's a smart home protocol, apparently

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how hot is this gonna get

lost python
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"we pioneered eSim for mobile phones"

In February 2016, Samsung released the Samsung Gear S2 Classic 3G smartwatch, the first device to implement an eSIM.

hard drift
#

Of course the first thing they talk about is a magsafe battery lmfao

sly walrus
#

here is a magsafe battery, negating the air's form factor

sharp star
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Do I have to keep tapping the sign

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"Tech isn't revolutionary unless Apple does it"

sly walrus
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oh that strap is gonna break

lost python
#

that case will be 50$ and turn yellow within a year, i bet

sly walrus
#

now announce iphone CHOMK

sharp star
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What flavor of yellow do you want

#

piss?

lost python
sly walrus
#

iphone pro is now a slab of aluminum

#

this cmc footage is doing something to me

hard drift
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The orange kinda nice

sly walrus
#

THE FATTEST BATTERY EVER

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"but this much power generates heat"

hard drift
#

The vapor chamber ASevil

sharp star
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"Thermally efficient" when my phone overheats after posting a "hot take" about FF14

lost python
#

this looks so silly

sly walrus
#

"we tested this by having haru urara run through twenty careers"

lost python
#

aerospace grade is such a buzzword

sly walrus
#

i'm gonna need all my shit in cosmic orange now

hard drift
#

40% jump is pretty nice

sly walrus
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endfield is still coming, guys

lost python
#

man, these things are already stupid fast what the hell

sharp star
sly walrus
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just make the whole phone ceramic shield, why don't you

hard drift
#

I really hate the fucking rectangle

sharp star
lost python
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i.... dont really know apple for being durable

#

i am very excited for jerry to take this one apart

hard drift
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39 hours of battery vs the fucking air that had 40 with a battery pack lmfao

#

The air is going to be dogshit

sharp star
#

Yarp

hard drift
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Holy shit that tech woven case was ugly

lost python
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lol

hazy frost
hazy frost
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I don’t think Apple even did it before Google tho for phones

lost python
hard drift
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The air being 1k is insane

hazy frost
#

Apple do definitely support it more tho ngl

sly walrus
#

wher ipads

hard drift
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this is the wrong event for that pretty sure

hazy frost
#

I’ve never seen a new iPad where it actually made any difference to me over the old one anyway

hard drift
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that's at wwdc

lost python
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they havent even finished properly supporting the current gen ipads pensivewobble

hard drift
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what are they needing to do?

sly walrus
sharp star
#

iPadOS feels like the redhead stepchild out of all the macOS-based operating systems

hard drift
hot shadow
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i want morning piss.

hard drift
sharp star
hazy frost
lost python
sly walrus
sharp star
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Feels weird being a mod running with a good chunk of the pee jokes in this server

hot shadow
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drops_pee here you go

sharp star
tepid gulch
hot shadow
#

america

hard drift
hard drift
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also didn't help with the camera bump being on display... the color wasn't helpful

sharp star
hard drift
hot shadow
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you guys sure talk a lot about phone cases for somethin you shove up yo ayass anyway

hazy frost
#

Do people actually buy dbrand stuff

hard drift
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yeah

hazy frost
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I thought by now we realised their customer service isn’t even that good and their products are overpriced

#

The switch 2 case thing was funny tho

hard drift
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their products are fine and i have had 0 problems with customer service

lost python
#

Same

hard drift
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i really loved their leather skin for their grip case

hazy frost
#

U could get the same quality for half the price with a number of companies

hard drift
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that was my favorite

hazy frost
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Or less with what I’ve seen the quality being like on some of their stuff recently

lost python
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Dunno havent seen one yet that holds up as well

hazy frost
#

$50 for a basic case is wild

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$60 full price

hazy frost
sharp star
#

Why the fuck do I have this. What the fuck.

hazy frost
#

If I was going to spend dbrand money I’d just buy the mous ones anyway

cold yacht
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Camera stuff is interesting on the new iPhone

lost python
#

Proper sturdy case, not soft, from spigen is also 60€ here so idk

hot shadow
#

also the sticker that goes on the back

#

i graduated from spigen, i no longer care

hazy frost
#

Spigen one I bought was £14

lost python
#

My case looks nice and keeps my 1000€+ safe so i really couldnt care less about if its 60€ or 70€

hazy frost
#

Otterbox ones are like £40

#

Mous ones are same price as dbrand but way more worth it

hot shadow
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im not a person that cares about how affordable a case is anymore, so i went from spigen to otterbox to dbrand

#

if i get a android in the future again i might care again

#

it's about how the case feels too

#

dbrand one just has that soft grit texture on edge

#

and the side of the screen where the case is is like tapered down

hazy frost
#

I just got the spigen one that’s textured all the way round but not too much to be annoying

hard drift
#

the other brand i like is bodyguardz

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bodyguardz and dbrand are the only ones i will use

hazy frost
#

Soft case with cushioned corners and a screen protector is all I actually use anyway

#

Not like I’m dropping it from 3 stories

hot shadow
#

ye i put tempered glass too, everyone usually should

#

not because of you. but because of fuckhead other people.

hazy frost
#

lol

hot shadow
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case too

#

never because of you

#

always others

#

this dorkass 12yo threw my phone before

cold yacht
#

I have no case or glass

hazy frost
#

Tbf if u get new screen protectors u get to keep the feeling of the protective layer on them as well

hot shadow
#

i kicked her out of my room after

cold yacht
#

My phone is raw

hazy frost
#

When it wears off u get to enjoy fingerprints and greasiness

hot shadow
#

absolutely vile child

#

mother a mess

hazy frost
#

But u can just get a new screen protector

sharp star
#

No matter how many tempered glass screen protectors are put on my sister’s phone she ALWAYS FUCKING CRACKS THEM

hazy frost
#

I haven’t cracked mine yet it’s been a year and a half lmao

sharp star
#

the actual screen is fine though

hazy frost
#

I used to a lot

sharp star
#

same

hazy frost
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If they don’t crack it would be worse

#

I hate the ads of them showing how good they are bc they don’t break

#

That’s their job

#

Scratch resistance yes but I want it to shatter not my screen under it

#

My screen protector on my switch has stopped more scratches than my phone has tbh

sharp star
sharp star
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nah she has butterfingers

hot shadow
#

i dont have a screen one on my switch lite but i did put that pokemon sleeve over it

hazy frost
#

I have no case for my switch besides one for grips so my hands don’t die

hot shadow
#

steam deck i got nothing either

hazy frost
#

Just the screen protector

hot shadow
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it goes straight to case

hazy frost
#

I know I’m unlikely to drop most things bigger issue is scratching from use or stuff in my pocket

sly walrus
#

i remember in high school people's phone screens would crack all the time because the air temperature was just that far removed going from one room to another

hot shadow
#

you have pockets?????????

#

women have pockets???????????

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amazing

hazy frost
#

Pocket or purse or whatever you get the point tho 😭

hot shadow
#

my fuckin tiny shorts got like a cookie sized pocket that isnt big enough for my phone so i give up on female pocket

#

feels like our vagina is bigger than these fucking stupid pockets

#

tf

hazy frost
#

In some sort of place where I also have keys or something

hot shadow
#

lmaoo

hazy frost
#

A lot of my clothes don’t have pockets but like if I wear some pants I have for winter when it’s cold they have pockets

hot shadow
#

o idk what winter is

#

true

cold yacht
sharp star
hot shadow
#

i can't even wear denim anymore it's too hot manggg

hazy frost
hot shadow
#

i dont even know how i wore denim when i was a teenager

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in humid china

hazy frost
hot shadow
#

shit just clinging to me like a bat

hazy frost
#

A lot of stuff I like isn’t comfortable lmfao

hot shadow
#

i like the pockets on my adidas adibreak pants with the leg close-snaps slits that go all the way up your thigh

#

theyre v big with zip

hazy frost
#

No pockets is just good excuse to buy more bags

hot shadow
#

everyone selling fucking stupid ugly croptops in stores is triggering me rn

hazy frost
#

It’s probably even worse with all my stuff going everywhere in bags than pockets tho for scratching stuff

hazy frost
hot shadow
#

because everyone i know has a fatass fupa in front or a pudge and all of them are too insecure to wear a croptop so who the hell are those for

hazy frost
#

Lmao

hot shadow
#

like wtf is this croptop shit again, put this shit back into the trash where it belongs

hazy frost
#

Idk I’m not too insecure to wear them and I’m not that in shape

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It’s not something I choose that often tho

hot shadow
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i can wear them but it makes me feel like my shirt is too small so i ree

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lmao

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like im wearing a fuckin baby's shirt

hazy frost
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The tighter ones pmo

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I get what u mean

hot shadow
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ok ya the baggier loose crop is ok

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the tight one is not ok

hazy frost
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True

lost python
sharp star
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2TB is so excessive for my use case

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I never managed to fill 256GB phones

hazy frost
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i need atl 512gb next time

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i have 184gb of photos

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i should pay for cloud storage btu at the same time thats still kind of annoying

tepid gulch
hard drift
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The red light converter is my favorite 🙏

hard drift
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No duplicates or trash you can delete?

hazy frost
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probably some stuff i could get rid of but like id rather not still

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not enough to clear up meaningful space anyway

hard drift
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Rip

inland mauve
sly walrus
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pro

inland mauve
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damn it

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and I almost bought a 16 today

sly walrus
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well the 16s are gonna be cheaper now

lost python
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16 will still be more than fine

inland mauve
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it's more that

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I realized how close I got to buyer's remorse

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also now I gotta wait for the 16 to go down in price Angy

sly walrus
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people have known these were coming for weeks

hot shadow
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iphone air looks kawaii

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so thinnnnnnn

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one camera instead of having eldritch being live there with 5 eyes

hazy frost
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It looks like an iPhone 6 incident may occur

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lol

hazy frost
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The base model with the 2 vertically is prettier

hot shadow
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can't wait for Bald Man to scratch and break iphones

hazy frost
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The new pro is horrendously ugly

cold yacht
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im debating on getting a watch se

hazy frost
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I hate everything about it

hot shadow
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and other YouTubers to hammer them and tiktokkers to throw it off the building and shit

hazy frost
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lol

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The scratch test very relevant

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Especially camera lenses bc u shouldn’t be covering them with crappy protectors anyway

hard drift
hard drift
hazy frost
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Bendgate

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Also some pretty bad battery issues

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I have to imagine the new air is gonna fold in half way too easily even with better design lol

hard drift
hard drift
hazy frost
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It’s possible it could be a problem

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Have to wait and see soon

hard drift
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Yeah

hazy frost
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This is the most horrible design of a phone generation from Apple ever imo tho lol

hard drift
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Jerry will soon destroy it ASevil

hazy frost
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Everything about all of them is just not appealing

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Glad I ended up with just a 14 pro instead of waiting for the 16 and 17

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Technologically though this can’t be more disappointing than the pixel 10 is lmfao

hard drift
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If I wasn’t on the upgrade program i would not get the 17

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I am happy we finally got a vapor chamber and anti reflective coating

hazy frost
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It actually does make good changes hardware wise yeah

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But god it’s ugly

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The colour selection isn’t even that good for the pro

hard drift
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Yeah lmfao

hard drift
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Not just orange

hazy frost
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The 13 and 14 with the green and purple were a lot nicer

hazy frost
hard drift
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I like the orange though surprisingly

hard drift
hazy frost
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Orange is decent but it’s the only mildly interesting option

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And it doesn’t rly suit the phone

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But the colour on its own is cool

hard drift
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I just did white because of sunlight heating that shit up

hazy frost
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Yeah

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Tbh mine goes in a case that isn’t clear anyway so it’s whatever

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I have a grey one

hard drift
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Yeah same

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I have a cooling case with vent holes 🙏

hazy frost
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Mine doesn’t rly get hot

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Except when I was on holiday and it was 41° or something

hard drift
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Yeah mine only really gets hot from the sun still

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But a vapor chamber is a much welcomed change

cold yacht
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my phone gets toasty when its on a charger in my car in 100 degree weather

tepid gulch
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EEpy

sharp star
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Not exactly sure if I want the iPhone Air over the 17 Pro Max

tepid gulch
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I've never opened an apple product

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Opened?

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Owned

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Close enough

dusky magnet
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Both can be true uwucarby

tepid gulch
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True

sharp star
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We still use physical SIMs over here, but on the other hand I am more or less ready to make the jump to eSIM

modest helm
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iphone air looks cooler

tepid gulch
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I just get an unlocked phone from samsung

dire viper
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Refurbished phone enjoyer here

tepid gulch
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I don't upgrade pretty much

dire viper
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Save 1000 dollars and buy refurbished phone that can’t get the fuck ass UI updates that ruin every Apple app

tepid gulch
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I'll keep a phone for 5 to 7 years

dire viper
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Let’s make the camera roll less usable Clueless

tepid gulch
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I don't use my camera

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So

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Idc about it

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