technology-discussion

[wraith agate]

makes sense

as long as it runs FFXIV it's good

[hazy frost]

i just wouldnt buy a 4050 for more than like 600 euros lol

[hazy frost]

for reference the 4050 in a laptop is slower than a gtx 1070 was by like 10%

at 1440p that puts u all the way down at about 40fps

[wraith agate]

so I should look for a 4060 or better?

what about the 3050?

[hazy frost]

equally as bad as the 4050

id get a 4060 minimum and even with that ur looking at lowest settings or scraping a 60-70 fps

[wraith agate]

the 4070 is better at it?

[hazy frost]

the 4070 or 3070ti are probably within budget at 2000 euros or less

[wraith agate]

neat, I'll keep an eye out for that then

[hazy frost]

3070ti and 4070 a re about 20% over the 4060 and the 4060 is 30% over the 4050

generally u get a better cpu with the 4070 ones as well hence more money tho

[hot shadow]

if you see a 4070ti it's great

[hazy frost]

hungary expensiv

[hot shadow]

RIP

[hazy frost]

atl stores i know

maybe theres better

but best i saw for under 2k was a 4070 for 1.8

[wraith agate]

honestly

I don't have to buy from a hungarian store as long as the store delivers to my location

[hazy frost]

i have no idea which ones do now ngl

itss been a while

[wraith agate]

any European store tbh

I mostly buy from Amazon.De

how about this?

[hot shadow]

feels expensive for the specs

[hazy frost]

also decent just has the FHD instead of 1440p screen

theres prob better

[wraith agate]

it only gets more expensive

[hot shadow]

man

[hazy frost]

il loook in a bit when im not busy

[wraith agate]

sure thing, feel free to send me a DM if you find anything good

[hazy frost]

sure

do all european amazon sites ship

germany and nl should right

atl

[wraith agate]

Yep

well depends on the supplier

but most do

[paper tusk]

https://www.alternate.de/ASUS/TUF-Gaming-F17-(FX707VI-HX045)-Gaming-Notebook/html/product/100072239

knida basic but the price is right

3050 I have runs xiv fine (1080) but that's mostly down to custom everything (and reshade running out of personal preference). 4070 will have a fuckton more headroom

[wraith agate]

I wish I could speak this language

do you know if they deliver to Hungary

if they don't, it's still not the end of the world, as I can just buy it after moving to the Netherlands

[paper tusk]

not sure. they seem kinda questionable when it comes to shipping out of germany

😐

[wraith agate]

Fantastic...

[paper tusk]

mnidfactory is much better operated

[wraith agate]

I suppose, I just need to find a way to use the website

[potent arrow]

Ping rob in the morn, hes German and would have some good leads

[wraith agate]

Good idea

I'm gonna eep now

[paper tusk]

https://www.ebay.de/itm/356855632644

[hazy frost]

U can get a similar one off Amazon for 1400 I found

I think it was Belgian Amazon weirdly this time

[dire viper]

simply cut the top to allow more clearance

https://youtu.be/VkgY9MALCsI?si=-XTD4fty0Q3IA7w4 @potent arrow wowza

[wraith agate]

Got a link?

[frozen bolt]

I threw the box away years ago, how do I find out how many hertz my monitor has?

[muted spoke]

hit your windows key, type display, scroll down to advanced display

[frozen bolt]

ah thanks

[sly elk]

https://old.reddit.com/r/macsetups/comments/1l27mxh/new_orientation/

gotta love those monitors

ugly speakers though xD

[sharp star]

lmao I finally went through how pathetic of a card the 5060 is

it really is just a 5050 so might as well consider Nvidia GPU tiering -10

which makes my 4090 a 4080

sorry about the 5080 @tame fulcrum

[lost python]

still gonna have 15% marketshare because it will be in every single prebuilt below 1500

[sharp star]

Yeah so the 5090 is actually a $10,000 card and the 5080 is actually a $3000 card

you can do the math

[sly elk]

that kinda makes sense, another way to look at it is the rtx 6000 is a titan

and hey, coulda spent $10k on pro display XDRs

[sharp star]

Yeah with Nvidia being shit combined with knowledge of how yields work I gotta lean into the bit

And oh boy, I am gonna lean hard

[hazy frost]

I still think the 5090 is the only gpu you can’t say this about

It had a meaningful uplift in every metric besides efficiency this year

Same thing with the 4090 tho

[sharp star]

Oh I know, but I gotta be pedantic now that I have this knowledge

[hazy frost]

But yeah the 5080 is a 5070ti and honestly the 5070ti isn’t even a 5070 it’s a 5060ti

Idk what the 5060 even is atp it doesn’t even deserve the 5050 title but neither did the 4060

[sharp star]

5030

"Somehow, Fermi has returned"

[hazy frost]

Lmao

It is funny people are more outraged by this than the 4060 even tho the 5060 actually improved on last gen

People finally realising how bad these GPUs are

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3-3dvgYt7c

this looks funnnn

[sly elk]

i recall people hating on the 4060 plenty

oh lmao sony had a similar game with the same name at the metreon

[hazy frost]

People said oh it sucks but people are way more upset about the 5060 for unknown reasons

Possibly bc of how bad the 5070 claims were it generally drew more attention to this generation anyway

[severe stream]

5k super release will be real 5k release

Same as with 4k super

[hazy frost]

We’ll see lol

Could be as bad as the 4080super was

Could be as good as the 4070super was

Bc realistically that was the only good gpu from it

The 4070ti super sucked bc u paid like $200+ more for the extra vram

[severe stream]

5080 super if it has 24 gb and sorta matches 4090 while being cheaper

Would be cool

[hazy frost]

I doubt they’ll do that

They should’ve released it like that but still

[zinc sluice]

hello
was gonna buy this thing for 1317 usd
got told its probably sold out nationwide in korea
offered a windows preinstalled ver for +100$
then told me its another +100$ for 512gb -> 1tb

looking for substitutions.

do i just get a lenovo 5i or osme shit

[potent arrow]

upgrade the storage yourself

it's much cheaper

it's... whatever a laptop lol

itlle run ff14 and most games at medium

[sharp star]

seconding Sarah and it’ll be much better if you can self-service a storage upgrade yourself

[zinc sluice]

just pisses me off big time that its +100$ for windows

😭

massgrave is a thing..

[spare coral]

Peeks

I know nhadala recommended me smth before but i genuinely can no longer find it TT so im curious about SSDs I know some pcs need particular ones to function properly

[potent arrow]

not really just buy a decent brand

sabrent

sabrent.

...sabrent.....

do you know what like format you need?

M.2? 2.5"?

[zinc sluice]

my firecuda has not failed me yet

:lainsmile:

[spare coral]

Uh no I don’t think so

[zinc sluice]

do it go in desktop

[sharp star]

The ever-reliable IronWolf Pro:

[potent arrow]

Imma let djura help ya

if I see ahyien recommend Samsung I'm killing djura in Minecraft

[sharp star]

Yeah I’d do that to myself if I recommended Samsung

[zinc sluice]

the 2tb seagate barracuda hdd that i bought for like 40$ ish while i was in china about 6 years ago is still up and going

LOLL

[potent arrow]

check for uh

DRAM

too

don't let Lu buy anything dramless

Imma

[sharp star]

M.2 form factor is like

[spare coral]

Ok uh

[potent arrow]

clock outta work

[sharp star]

SSDs that look like sticks of gum

[potent arrow]

jsut

get their motherboard

and their devices

[spare coral]

Let me see I have to translate it in my head so I know where that is on my pc

[severe stream]

See what your motherboard support

[spare coral]

[potent arrow]

and figure it out

lu

[severe stream]

Usually all the latest shit support it

[potent arrow]

hit windows + r

[sharp star]

Yeah I uh

[potent arrow]

type msinfo

and screenshot it

send it to me

[sharp star]

remember them saying that they were on a 7700(X) for a CPU at one point

it may have changed since

[zinc sluice]

welp time to start a clean slate

[potent arrow]

msinfo32

[zinc sluice]

oh

[potent arrow]

I think

[zinc sluice]

:peepositgaming:

[potent arrow]

I'm doing this

half asleep

[zinc sluice]

goonite.

[potent arrow]

well

helping Lu a bit

[zinc sluice]

rat..

is this ur rat

[potent arrow]

NNo

[zinc sluice]

ah

[potent arrow]

I just collect rats

[hot shadow]

yessssssssssssssssssssss

[latent plank]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-hamster-meme-elmascapito-amasar-hamster-hand-gif-24915812

[hot shadow]

finally, rats

i love holding them like they owe you money

[hot shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-petting-gif-10511968

i miss my hamster era

theyre so smol

[spare coral]

Sarah decided that whoever built my pc is a freak

[potent arrow]

Fucking nerds

Who fucking puts a 1TB WD stinker NVME in a pc

and partitions it into a C and D drive

[hot shadow]

whyd they bother partitioning it, that's p strange

it just creates problems

[potent arrow]

to trick peoplwe into buying gAMER SHIT

[hot shadow]

lol

[potent arrow]

hence freak behavior

[sharp star]

actually screaming at people who do that

[spare coral]

i thought i was stupid genuienly

cuz i couldnt find what sarah needed but turns out i wasnt stupid

[sharp star]

having to un-partition stock drives on prebuilts or laptops gives me psychic damage

[hazy frost]

i mean people are still buying entirely separate drives for their OS in 2025 as well

lmao

[sharp star]

Yeah I gotta have extra storage for all the games and commissions

4TB combined is my upper limit

[hazy frost]

i need more storage but prices keep going up

yet i wi ll keep coping a nd waiting for it to come down

but buying a 256gb ssd for windows in 2025 is so funny

[sharp star]

Yeah I had to set 500GB as the upper limit unless specifically requested at work

Because people were being funny with pirated media

[hazy frost]

lmao

my ffxiv i nstall and art files are getting too fat for my pc

[hot shadow]

art files should go in its own media center at some point

if there's a lotttt

like it's not high demand storage

[hazy frost]

yeah thats the plan but hard drives annoy me with the noise

ive gone too long without one

[hot shadow]

o I mean even more SSD but away from the pc

[sharp star]

Yeah you know what you're right

[hot shadow]

like a NAS is ok or external tower

[hazy frost]

yeah its a bit expensive but ideal

[sharp star]

Maybe I need a NAS for all those spicy Au Ra comms

[hazy frost]

lmao

[spare coral]

My art is completely elsewhere with my drawing tablet lmao

[hot shadow]

my sis put her PhD stuff in a 40tb tower and it's cloud accessible

I think she kept her art in it too

[spare coral]

I do only sometimes put them on my pc if I need a bigger screen to sketch

[hazy frost]

the price of 40tb in ssd storage

[spare coral]

Like highly detailed sketches

[hazy frost]

i do everything on one pc now

£65 per 1tb sata drive

could be worse

realistically i can have all of it in my pc bc i have a stupid amount of slots available

i have 3 m.2 and 4 sata left i think

[hot shadow]

I guess if I had the long-term HDD tower I'd prob only have like 4 of them then hide it in a closet

clothes would muffle it

[hazy frost]

yeah id have to put it in an other room lol

[hot shadow]

lol

[hazy frost]

crazy how used to the sound i was before now i cant stand it

[hot shadow]

before it was comforting

now it's like misophonia lmfao

[hazy frost]

i probably only need another 2tb drive for games and one for v arious art things

but theres a whole load of photos i need to ba ck up as well which is a pain

[hot shadow]

I think my sis is def using HDD tho

I can't see her buy 40tb in ssd

since it would fail

also my husb had a 8tb SSD fail already

[hazy frost]

yeah

[hot shadow]

worthless

[hazy frost]

40tb in ssds is like

$1-2k lol

[hot shadow]

now I only trust 1tb to 2tb SSD so I can clone then chuck it every few years

[hazy frost]

sata drives still the same price as nvmes

[hot shadow]

cause wtf

I wish I had that metal puncher

idk how to recycle a ssd

[hazy frost]

i mean i expect ssds to last longer than 3 years now

[hot shadow]

my closet rn is like

[hazy frost]

im on year 3? now

chilling

just buy TLC drives only

[hot shadow]

20 something hdd and SSD from three people and three old servers I need to remove

old junko

[hazy frost]

i gave away every hdd i had

[hot shadow]

also ya 3 years is no problem, I just check the s.m.a.r.t. thing too

if it's a Samsung Evo SSD it comes with the software to also look

[hazy frost]

i expect liike

6-8 of average usage off of good ones

[hot shadow]

ya

my pny is 6 years old

[hazy frost]

which is worth it now for the prices and speed

[hot shadow]

so far it has 0 bad sector

[hazy frost]

mine is rated for 600tb of writes or smth lol

[hot shadow]

perhaps because I access it the least, I put like two games on it then it's sort of long-term stuff

so I must not have gone in there a lot

[hazy frost]

yeah

if ur gonna keep it forever u might as well spend $20 more for the higher quality ones rn

unless ur on a rly tight budget

i havent run any checks recently

ive got 31tbw

lmao

2tb one is 1200

ill be alright i think

[lost python]

https://www.androidpolice.com/eu-new-rules-will-shake-up-android-update-policies/

mandated 5 years of software updates and 7 years of providing spare parts

[hazy frost]

good for everyone that isnt samsung and google

would make oneplus and xiaomi stuff a lot more appealing, i mean theyre already a better option usually for the price

but 3 year support is a bit meh even tho u get a non guaranteed 4/5 maybe

[sharp star]

RX 9060 XT review embargo lifts in 16 minutes

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LAH5vh-Cpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9u3UPkqp_0

oh my god the AMD mountain bike

[hazy frost]

identical to leaked benchmarks

awesome

so basically matching the $450 5060ti for $350

$480*

same weird driver issues in ffxiv i guess

9070 and xt were the same

of course LTT is somehow STILL complaining about this

6% more performance for 40% more money and still saying the 5060ti is barely worse

[sharp star]

Linus's tech tip

[severe stream]

Fake frames

[hazy frost]

ltt is so unbelievably out of touch but people still take their advice

[severe stream]

You won't get that with amd

Actually you do

[sharp star]

I just want Frank Azor to shut up

[hazy frost]

i mean technically u will they just dont make absurd claims based on it

[severe stream]

But not as good

[hazy frost]

who cares when both are plagued with visual problems rendering it borderline unusable if u have eyes

genuinely the 9060xt is very good if its not over $400 tho

and the 8gb one needs to go under 300

[severe stream]

Vote with wallet

If people aren't stupid they will get 16gb

Even for 1080p..I wouldn't advise 8 gb at 2025

If you wanna play latest games atleast

[hazy frost]

yeah 8gb is fine for a lot of games if its $250-300 bc u cant get anything better anywya even used its a bit eh maybe a 6700xt

if u can afford the extra $50 tho it makes sense

most people should be able to

[hot shadow]

get american sugar daddy

[hazy frost]

need my 5090

[hot shadow]

she 👏 needs 👏 her 👏 5090👏 where 👏 are 👏 these 👏 daddies

[hazy frost]

so true

almost as much as my car cost

[dire viper]

I am selling my car but instead of a GPU I’m gonna buy a set of wheels that are made out of billet aluminum and then have to be shipped here across the entire fucking world and somehow they are still cheaper than a mid end GPU

And the amount of material loss on the billet wheels is insane

@hot shadow I think u need a lowrider

Peak daily car

[hot shadow]

sounds nice ya

not sure where i would go

cause ||i hit the point where my monthly interest or the annuity pretty much spits out money that i can make some instacart dude shop for me||

im still goin to target later tho

[hazy frost]

gotta be the most american thing ive heard

10/10

imagine not being able to walk 2 misn to the store..

[dire viper]

Yea but like you could drive to the store in a 58 Bel Air slammed on its nuts and completely candied

[hot shadow]

yuh, it takes like 10 min to walk there which is fine, ive been doin that occasionally

just to give me something to do

at least i have actual good sidewalks i think other americans are fucked tho? like texans

[hazy frost]

i always walk just bc fuel to drive to the bigger one is £1.40 a litre or something

im not paying that

[hazy frost]

true

[hot shadow]

i hab a prius so i haven't cared i suppose

[hazy frost]

i live in a village so its walkable here but i cant walk to bigger places

[hot shadow]

the gas is like

barely moving

[hazy frost]

i g et 40mpg but it still hurts

its 153p a litre rn

[dire viper]

Oh Rab should just buy a Volkswagen XL1 then

Most fuel efficient car ever made

[hazy frost]

lmao

[dire viper]

And lowest drag coefficient out of any production car

[hot shadow]

this????????????????

fuck is this door

[dire viper]

Yes

[hot shadow]

hahahaha

noooooooooooo

i like the outside

[hazy frost]

beautiful

[hot shadow]

it looks like a fish

[dire viper]

Those were 120k brand new

[hot shadow]

but the door...

o i could afford that but STILL MAN, THAT DOOR

[dire viper]

I think they’re like 150k now or something

They only made 200 of them

[hazy frost]

was like 300 wasnt it

but mostly in europe so like 200 here

and 3 in america or something probably

[hot shadow]

the feminine urge to just hire 2 strongmen and a lil palanquin to carry me around?????

rickshaw me around but softly

then people will see me and immediately become racist it'll be great

[dire viper]

Nope

They didn’t sell it in the US. European only.

[hazy frost]

toyota sera did doors better

[dire viper]

200 units

[hazy frost]

i want one

[dire viper]

They planned for more but they only sold the 200

[hazy frost]

close enough

[hot shadow]

oh man i might need 4 strongmen

[dire viper]

True

[hot shadow]

hit up the local gym so i can get those boys to use those muscles for something

the dream

lemme touch em biceps after

[hazy frost]

lmao

[hot shadow]

very eco friendly

[hazy frost]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-9060-xt-prime-oc-16-gb/37.html

even in the path tracing segment the 5060ti only wins by 20% and msrp is more than that over the 9060xt lol

ignoring wukong bc that game is a mess

and under 30 fps isnt playable in that game

idk why we include this but not cyberpunk in PT testing now

[wide hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7arjH-sGWFM

morning coffee

[tepid gulch]

Death drink

[sharp star]

hell yeah I love the dinky little screwdriver thing

Enjoy your 5080

I have it mathed out, don’t worry

tl;dr Nvidia tiering is actually one tier above what it’s supposed to be, except for the 5060 which is actually a 5030

[hazy frost]

5020

the 5090 is only rly a 5090 tier card bc of vram as well

its bordering 5080ti super lol

[hot shadow]

dang I would be so scared to be a lil ant crawling in there and then HEARING IT TURN ON

[sharp star]

Actually impressed with this GPU dark age

[tepid gulch]

Looks good

[sharp star]

but uh yeah the 9060 XT launch could have been better if Frank Azor shut up

like... genuinely

[tepid gulch]

Counterpoint

90% of everything in existence would be better if people shut up

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY8NLAfNi_M

good to know this isn't forgotten

[tepid gulch]

A what

I barely trust companies that make bikes exclusively

[sharp star]

Yeah it's a rebranded Walmart bike but still

AMD stopped selling it not long after that video dropped

[hazy frost]

do u have 22 now

[sharp star]

Dunno, I seem to be fine with nine, GPU fans notwithstanding

I wouldn't trust Nvidia to make a cheese sandwich for me

[hazy frost]

im fine with 4 lmao

[sharp star]

Not only would they fail spectacularly, it'd be AI-generated

[hazy frost]

nvidia app if u dont let it do stuff for u is one of their only good things theyve done recently

actually streamlines the good features they have to be usable

[sharp star]

Six of the fans are stock and three are on the AIO

so why not

[hazy frost]

ig i have 5 including cooler rn

1 exhaust 3 intake and a 120mm dual tower

thinking about getting a 360 or 420mm aio for summer bc im losing my mind

[sharp star]

Yeah I got a 420 for the summer

[hazy frost]

420s are few and expensive

[sharp star]

June-August here is storm season

[hazy frost]

my problem is always just theres never a good aio that has a quiet pump

it was like 28c a week ago already and i was sweating

[sharp star]

Unfortunately seems that way but I don't seem to be bothered by my LF3

[hazy frost]

i heard its pretty loud tbh

it got put above the EK, arctic, and thermalright ones for noise

though its hard to find how much noise is pump vs stock fans online

[sharp star]

Nawk-tuah

[hazy frost]

lmao

[sharp star]

quietly cool that thang

[hazy frost]

id probably buy the T30s for it either way

or the uhh

[sharp star]

incredible how they're coming out with AIOs after years of air cooling

[hazy frost]

p28

[sharp star]

Mhm

[hazy frost]

im basically just buying for the pump bc i can buy fans

[hazy frost]

idk h ow good itll be

we'll see

[sharp star]

Yeah

[brave oxide]

smells like brown fans in here

[hazy frost]

i think the q uiestst one might be the bequiet ones but theyre kinda mid

[sharp star]

Yeah once the 140mm T30s drop I'll consider them

[hazy frost]

are they actually making those

[sharp star]

They had prototypes at Computex this year

[hazy frost]

hm

thats cool

i didnt buy them bc theyre 120s for my i ntake

might just get a thermalright aio and the fans

same total price as buying from someone else

they have an lcd one for £80 lmao

i dont think i can wait for 2026 to see if noctua dont mess it up tho

[hot shadow]

we're americans we like brown drink brown food brown FAN

https://tenor.com/view/noctua-fan-noctuafan-gif-24134135

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/noctua-explaining-pc-gif-22477874

[hazy frost]

id pay a company anything if the damn pump doesnt whine tho fr 😭

their fans suck bc phanteks(and sunon related), lian li, and arctic make cheaper ones that do the same or better

arctic slim ones suck tho

and the old p12 max had horrible bearing issues

the white one uses different ones for some reason too

[hot shadow]

i suppose getting a Be Quiet! case would solve a bit of it

then you wouldnt have to care about the look of the case too

all padded

then probably hide the thing in a rolly cabinet with a few holes in the back for cables

[hazy frost]

i think id rather put up with the noise than pay for all that

could do tho

[hot shadow]

hmmmmmmm maybe just a cabinet then

[hazy frost]

earplugs

[hot shadow]

i wonder if there's a box i could just shove over the whole pc and i just cut some slits, then the slit can have a felt cloth to kinda 'close it'

that prob does help too cheaply

[hazy frost]

lmao

[hot shadow]

lol

shit i guess it needs some air holes

fuck idk

[hazy frost]

everythings quiet i might just get a cheap aio and it is what it is theyre like £40

[hot shadow]

i put my pc like on the floor on the right, away from me so i dont hear it as much

[hazy frost]

i can just stop using it after summer if its annoying but its gonna be 35-40 again this year at this rate

and im not sitting in that again

[hot shadow]

0_0

you need an AC my god

[hazy frost]

yeah we dont rly have that in england

theres a few weeks a year where its over 30 so no one invests in it

even at 25-30 its painful with my pc on most of the day

[hot shadow]

those few weeks is when heatstroke death occur!!!

[hazy frost]

real

[hot shadow]

and kidney failure

:((

[hazy frost]

ac w ould be nice lol

idk how much the window unit things cost

the floor ones are stupid like £300

id rather die of heatstroke than spend that much on a box that blows air

unfortanately sun sets on the side where my desk is so it doesnt cool down until late late

[hot shadow]

oooooooo i put window reflective tint for that

that way some light still functionally comes in but it blocks a lot of the heat

i put it on my wholeass glass door

i think a window is easier!

but if you mean wall then yea can't do anything

[hazy frost]

was thinking about that yeah not sure how neighbours would feel about it tho lmao

might do it anyway so i can not die this year

[hot shadow]

i think cheap easy no mess solution must be foil wrapped around a cardboard

lol to perfectly fit into the window and put a tape handle to put it out

but that's obv would block the light

i suppose the window version would be the window tint on a acrylic sheet then yank it out but idk where to get acrylic sheets

[hazy frost]

Who cares I’m gonna have to shut my blinds either way rn lol

Could work well enough

I’d rather be in the dark than be burned alive atl

However jank it is

[hazy frost]

cpu bottleneck probably lmao

its a 12900k right?

u do have the only gpu thats not enough for on the market lol

didnt u just buy a 5090

yeah 5090 is one of like 2 gpus that can actually benefit from a better cpu than a 12900k in most games

yes

i do imagine its because its a 12900k its not going to report super high in presumably single core heavy games

but its still cpu limited or gpu usage would be much higher

itll be 11800x3d lmao

u have a wh ile

yeah unless u bought a 360hz monitor ur not seeing more anyway

lmao

yeah doesnt matter then

just turn on vsync and use less of everything atp

or just manually cap at 165

then u dont have to generate heat making frames u dont see

i know its putting out heat with all 600w of its incredible fire hazard power draw

u should probably power limit to 85% and a slight oc tbf

keeps it safer on that stupid connector

i think the base recommendation is an 80% limit and +200 from the optimum tech video when he got the FE

the 12vhpwr cable is rated for a max 600w and u can p ull 520 just in casual gaming stock which is rough

[tepid gulch]

That's why those cables are melting is because of the high end cards

Pulling dumb wattages

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s a non issue on anything else

4090 had issues bc it flew too close to the sun

So does the 5090

There’s a reason only like 2 other GPUs went up in flames

That’s not saving the problem either tho

The 5090 suffers from more than one design flaw

It’s best to just not run it at almost the limit of the spec for the cable really

[tepid gulch]

That's too.close for my liking

[hazy frost]

Just use msi afterburner

80% and 2700-2800mhz

Was the target that got basically stock performance

[sly elk]

software jobs amirite? XD

[sly elk]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/review-at-349-amds-16gb-radeon-rx-9060-xt-is-the-new-midrange-gpu-to-beat/

i've seen this sort of review before and it bothers me

why is there no 9070xt in there?

or 9070?

because they don't want people to know they're paying almost twice as much for like a 10% performance difference?

[dapper nymph]

9060, but it's actually msrp

[real edge]

unsure if the US will also indirectly get these benefits

but im glad we're getting these

[paper tusk]

likely yes but only if device makers don't segregate by economic zone (citing different modem bands, even though it's all software defined these days)

[hazy frost]

More because it’s out of the price range of the cards in the comparison

You compare cards that are in the same bracket price wise bc that’s what consumers need to make a decision on what they buy

Even in other testing the highest u get is a 5060ti or 5070

The 5060ti should be on the chart tho because it’s a direct competitor still

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/junlper.beer/post/3lqt76g2czk2s

onion person (@junlper.beer)

it’s time to replace all doctors with ai

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[lost python]

Oh it’s out?

I am tempted

[dire viper]

What da hell

[hazy frost]

asus quality monitoring

install msi afterburner for ur own sake

[sharp star]

Please save yourself by installing MSI Afterburner I beg of you

[tepid gulch]

135%

Asus you scare me daily

[hazy frost]

9060xt 16gb selling for £315 in the UK

Winning

No 5060tis sold but a ton of these bc they’re £100 cheaper

[lost python]

315€ for us here in germany, too

[hazy frost]

Also easily available

And a ton of prebuilts have it

[lost python]

5060 ti with 16gb is 450€

[hazy frost]

£400 here

[lost python]

mildly more expensive

[hazy frost]

But it’s not actually any faster in RT than the 9060xt

Atl the 5070ti has a decent difference to the 9070xt

But u can’t use PT either way on these GPUs so u can never justify the 5060ti besides AI

[lost python]

ayyyai

[hazy frost]

Lmao

Or rendering specifically

UDNA isn’t here yet 😔

[sly elk]

but that's kind of the point here. For someone on a budget they could save a ton of money without stress knowing that the difference in performance between a 9060xt and a 9070 isn't really as big as the difference in price lol

probably a great way to turn a vendor against you though

[hazy frost]

Then best way to do it would be redo 9070 reviews with the other stuff included unfortunately the launch order is annoying

People looking at the 9060xt probably can’t afford the 9070 anyway so you put the cards in their budget there

9060xt should be on the bottom of the 9070 graph as a comparison bc it shows what they could spend less on

I would also add the 9070 actually is a lot faster than the 9060xt the difference is not small at all

It’s 30-50% faster at 1080p and 1440p

[sly elk]

idk i feel like a giant graph of all the current gen would be sweet ya know

just to put things in perspective

and they don't like doing that

[hazy frost]

Tech power up do that

9070 is 50% faster in 1440p there

Well worth the price still

The 9060xt is just also fair value if u can’t afford it

Other thing is usually the 5070 just makes it on there bc it’s slower than the 9070

But it’s a good enough reference point for the 9070

[sly elk]

damn i didn't realize the difference was that huge

i still wonder why aamd didn't call it a 9080xt

[hazy frost]

Because it is a 9070xt

Nvidia just named theirs one up this year lmao

[sly elk]

XD

[hazy frost]

At best the 9070xt is like an xtx or base 9080

9080 would have more vram

[sly elk]

though if they gave me a 9080xt with 32gb vram

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL

[hazy frost]

Even a 20gb 9080 would be cool

Tbf u only need 16 so even if it was just a lot faster for decent money I’d buy it

[sly elk]

my monitor is 7680x2160, yes I need the 32

[hazy frost]

But yeah 9060xt and 9070 both actually fair value, 9070xt hit or miss

[sly elk]

I NEED IT!

[hazy frost]

I mean

20 maybe

Not that many games hit 16 at regular 4K

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/vibin-mondaiji-dance-funny-moves-gif-17314981

[hazy frost]

Thinking about getting a 4K monitor bc the 1440p mini led options are so poor

But thinking about how I barely get 60 fps in cyberpunk already hurts

Raw power is the issue for 4K more than vram for me atp lol

Monster hunter is using like 8GB but I’m still getting 70fps

Options are basically the Q27G3XMN (catchy) or that xiaomi 27i with the software problems for 1440p lmao

And neither has that many zones

[hot shadow]

today at best buy I saw a 4k 36inch monitor with 0.03ms and 240hz OLED

bruv it was like

1200 dollars

fuck

but it looked so good

[brave oxide]

Become a slave to always needing to buy a new GPU every gen

[hazy frost]

I’m buying it probably now I’ve seen how better some of the switch games I already have run

And it’s ACTUALLY available at £395 and not just sold out

I’m also paying like £220

[sly elk]

i like that i was talking about this a week or so ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBdtuCTyfAs

although I hate the idea of having the battery inside the psu like that

[wide hill]

... epic games store why

nvm finally got in

[tribal mesa]

Pretty big upgrade on the color ignore the light strips reflection xD

[wraith agate]

Yeah the one on the left looks sharper

[hazy frost]

My only problem was OLED looking almost oversaturated for some games but it’s still way better than washed out

[sharp star]

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jun/06/australian-navy-ship-accidentally-blocks-wifi-across-parts-of-new-zealand

[dire viper]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64967421/porsche-963-rsp-revealed/

Penske says fuck you

Street legal Le Mans car

The only factory street legal 917 next to the only street legal 963 LMDh

[sly elk]

you don't get that kinda money without saying fuck you

[sly elk]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/amds-discrete-desktop-gpu-market-share-hits-all-time-low-as-nvidia-extends-its-lead

[brave oxide]

The numbers from Jon Peddie Research appear to contradict comments made by Lisa Su, Chief Executive of AMD, who stated during the quarter that the launch of the company's Radeon RX 9070-series products was AMD's most successful product launch in terms of first-week sales. Yet, this is not exactly the case. Jon Peddie Research monitors how many GPU chips each company sells-in to its partners per quarter, not the number of cards sold through retailers. By contrast, Lisa Su mentioned sold through results of the Radeon RX 9070-series, referring to the final stage where the retailer sells the product to the end user.

[dire viper]

The update explains the entire thing

[brave oxide]

[dire viper]

If AMD could get big boy massive allocations, they probably would have a significantly larger share just due to the fact there wouldn’t be as bad of a bottleneck on retail sales

[brave oxide]

the title kinda feels misleading if they only look at "how many chips partners bought" over "how many end users bought AMD GPUs"

[dire viper]

Yea

I know a lot of people who got their hands on the 9070

Also GPU sales numbers have always felt misleading

[sharp star]

Yeah there's always been something off about GPU numbers

Like if you go to a store you can get an idea of what people want and what people don't want by looking at the shelves and asking staff

I think Steve did that when he was in Taiwan

He broke out the Mandarin and asked them what GPUs were the most desired from Nvidia and the cashier said the 5080

Also said there was a lot of stock left for the 5060

[hot shadow]

that's because also taiwanese netizens know not to buy that one

they've been ragging on that one since announcement too hahahaahaha

even they educate their gf not to buy the 5060 🤣

[sharp star]

lmao yeah

I'd educate people to not buy the 5060 and just go for the 9060 XT instead

And throttle them if they went for 8GB

[hot shadow]

sometimes I talk to my nephew there and he is 15 and made vomiting noises when we were talking about GPU and the 5060 was brought up

my sides

[sharp star]

Wait, both of you?

[hot shadow]

omg ||he fken rly said that card is for poor south americans||

[sharp star]

Your nephew is wise

[hot shadow]

I'm so proud of him

but hey if it's all somebody can afford then no biggie

[hazy frost]

I mean it’s never all somebody can afford bc they’re like $300 you can always go buy smth way better used

Or just buy smth from last gen bc bigger number is not better

[sly elk]

so people gotta decide whether they're going to go to dodgers hololive night or one piece night

lol

or nto at all because dodgers

[wraith agate]

Technology advanced so much

In 2013, I could connect my smartphone via any USB-n/USB2.0 cable and transfer files.

In 2025, I have to send stuffs to my discord because samsung doesn't let me use any cables that aren't samsung compatible

[tepid gulch]

I've never once had this issue and I've been using Samsung phone since 2013

[wraith agate]

me too

[tepid gulch]

What cables arent Samsung compatible

Never experienced that

[wraith agate]

no idea and don't care

I got a private server to transfer stuffs anyway

[sly elk]

huh

i don't use samsung cables with my samsung fold4 lol

i don't remember what i did with the cable that came with the phone

[potent arrow]

Lmao you are probally using a cable thats power only

[wraith agate]

I don't think I got any data cables around

Anyway modern problems require modern solutions

[sly elk]

nope!

I have a number of different cables :3

i have a couple of cable matters 10gbps cables

for my phone linux says:
Device can operate at SuperSpeed (5Gbps)

[potent arrow]

I mean piper lol

[inland mauve]

needs more generated frames

[dire viper]

My little brother had 6 DualShock 4 controller cables and not a single one was a data transfer one

Shit grinded my gears

His controller wouldn’t work and so I was trouble shooting it and realized that all the Sony cables usually are charge only

30 minutes of trouble shooting defeated by Sony being one of the worst companies ever devised

[dapper nymph]

is the 5800xt worth 42usd more than the 5700x or should i save it and get 8x2 ddr4 ram for 32gb

[sharp star]

Would strongly recommend grabbing the 5700X3D if you can

[dapper nymph]

too expensive

like, 100usd more than either

plus, it wont just be for gaming

unless thr diff between the x3d and 5800xt is minimal under not gaming specifications

im not sure of the value of having 32 gb of ram either, currently have 16

i can get just the 5800xt or
5700x + potentially the same ram for another 8x2

if i look really hard, there is a 5700x3d... 50usd more than the 5800x

im personally leaning towards the 5700x but im unsure if 32 gb of ram is needed

[sharp star]

16GB is serviceable but 32GB helps more

especially since you're doing more than just gaming

[dapper nymph]

ok, 5700x it is

...unless i can somehow haggle down the 5800xt even more (likely not happening)
or it turns out they no longer have the ram

[sly elk]

ngl i kinda want to replace my trashcan mac pro with a mac studio

[hazy frost]

Well you haven’t told anyone what you need the upgrade for so people can’t tell u

The 5800x isn’t any better than the 5700x besides using more power, the 5700x3d has a substantial benefit in gaming over both tho

[dapper nymph]

how descriptive do you want the use case to be for?

best i could summarize it for is not just gaming

in which the 5700x is much cheaper than the 5800xt or the x3d and i'd be allowed to get more ram so..

the ram part is the part im somewhat unsure how much of an impact it'll have between 16 and 32

[hazy frost]

Ok but what is the not gaming use case

If it’s u using excel that’s very different to running CAD

[sharp star]

If it's office work I would still recommend the 5700X3D; it's only if you're into media creation that you should consider non-X3D chips barring the 9950X3D

[dapper nymph]

is rendering enough of a description

either way, x3d cpus are still high even on am4 for some reason in my area

[hazy frost]

Because they’re significantly better

[dapper nymph]

a 5800x3d's cost has risen due to the fact it's no longer in production

at least that's what the stores tell me

[hazy frost]

5700x3d is on par with the 7500f/7600x

The regular 5700x is just a bit faster than a 5600x

[hazy frost]

Not really

[dapper nymph]

the 5700x3d cost more than a 7600x, only thing stopping me from getting them are the mobos also costing a surprising amount

[hazy frost]

I’d assume ur gpu rendering stuff mostly no?

What would u need the cpu for

[dapper nymph]

gpu does help render stuff

except... i have a 3700x with a 7800xt

it still uses cpu a lot as the gpu slightly helps

[hazy frost]

What’re u rendering

What software

Ur being too vague for anyone to actually recommend stuff still

[dapper nymph]

i'd be at 90-100% usage which makes sense for the cpu i think while gpu sits at... 30% ish which i think is normal in rendering

[sharp star]

I think you're referring to stuff that may be in over your head

[dapper nymph]

likely yes

so im using the prices

[hazy frost]

Well we can’t recommend what’s worth the price unless u know what ur using it for

It’s entirely subjective

[dapper nymph]

blender, vegas

[hazy frost]

Blender id hope you aren’t using cpu rendering so it shouldn’t matter that much really

[dapper nymph]

im not, it's using the gpu

however, there are some tasks that will still use the cpu

unless there are more settings i've not uncovered

that im pretty sure i checked really carefully in cycles to use the gpu

[hazy frost]

The cpu isn’t as important there tho, the difference between all of the am4 CPUs isn’t that big if ur rendering mainly with ur gpu

There’s virtually no difference between a 5700x3d and 5800x in performance there

On the other hand in gaming the performance is huge especially in FFXIV for the x3d CPUs on am4

[dapper nymph]

ok, to give you an idea... with the issue i've stumbled across after realizing how expensive the mobo + ram would be which i can't afford

the 5700x3d cost as much as a 7700x and the 5800x3d is the same price as the 7800x3d in my area, over 400 usd for the 5800x3d

then i see the 5700x and the 5800xt which cost... about 170 usd and 220 usd

[hazy frost]

U still haven’t said how much the 5700x3d IS tho

Just that it’s more

[dapper nymph]

380 usd ish

there's no used market

[hazy frost]

It depends then, if u would value gaming performance the 5700x3d outperforms almost everything besides other x3d CPUs in most games and it’s still as good as the non x3d ones for productivity

Assuming u play FFXIV for example it’s performing about the same as the 14900k would

U have to decide whether it’s worth it to u

Between the 5700x and 5800x the 5800x isn’t really any different besides using more power tho so I’d pick the 5700x of the two

[dapper nymph]

i'd still pick the non x3d versions in my area due to how big of a gap of price there is with the 5700x being almost the same price as the 5600x

what i don't know is the specific performance it has besides 5700x pretty much being a 5800x with slightly less performance and power draw

[hazy frost]

What else do u need to know

That’s all that can be said about performance

They’re all just functionally identical besides how much power they use in productivity

The difference between them is like 1-5% usually which is margin of error in testing

[dapper nymph]

the existence of the xt cpus confuses me besides it being still in for production(?)

it showed up while i was comparing prices and wondered what it was as it seems to just be a 5800x

next would be not knowing how a system with 32 gb feels

im not exactly tech savvy but i'd still want to try to know what im getting myself into

[hazy frost]

It’s basically the same thing as the 5800x

It’s just a last minute refresh of the 5800x to sell more

It’s really not any different in performance to the old one

[hazy frost]

It doesn’t feel any different unless u need more

If u run out of memory you’d know, 16gb is fine for a lot of things still but 32gb is enough for pretty much everything besides heavier productivity related things like video editing

If u can afford it id get it

[dapper nymph]

ok more reason to get the 5700x + extra ram for vegas since it's within the budget i have myself till some other time to consider am5

[lost python]

https://youtu.be/m4Np8c6JQDU

now i want to play E:D again

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAmu_HnQAo8

[dapper nymph]

things happened and well, managed to get to use a vga to hdmi for once

i find it pretty stupid my monitor, a samsung s24e310 no longer can enter bios/safemode after amd drivers are installed

and a 1024/728 acer monitor from the 2000s is capable of booting bios/safemode, only limitation it has is needing a vga cable and i had no hdmi to vga till recently as the 7800xt doesn't come with a vga port which makes sense in this day and age

[brave oxide]

https://i.redd.it/d0qy53fbmw5f1.png

[sly walrus]

well on the upside, anything he had in the bank probably has a shitload of interest now

[dapper nymph]

all spent on healthcare fees if american

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_DjDdfqtUE

[sly walrus]

can't wait to see what legacy game dev they bring out to be like "we've made our game work on mac os"

"hey, watch f1, guys"

everyone at infinite loop is a dork

[sharp star]

Le... wokisme...?

[sly walrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvtBN80ifqY

saw this and thought of you

[sharp star]

Apple Intelligence

good night

[sly walrus]

liquid glass, my favorite metal gear character

[sharp star]

Liquid Ass

iOS skipping 8 versions

[sly walrus]

the apple ui has acquired invisibility

imessage strawpolls

[hazy frost]

Me still not updating to iOS 18 bc I don’t like the photos app

[sharp star]

Okay but

Mix anything with a pregnant man emoji

[sly walrus]

first thing people are gonna do

[sharp star]

PISS FILTER

[sly walrus]

apple catching up to google translate

FR*NCH

now it's even easier for white people to listen to bad bunny

apple taking jobs from djs

smh

[sharp star]

Oh that sounds awful

Having an AI motivate you for your workout

[sly walrus]

"statement: run faster, meatbag"

[hazy frost]

Having AI as a personal assistant do anything sounds awful

I don’t understand how Google pushing theirs so hard works

Who ACTUALLY talks to their phone as well

U look insane

[inland mauve]

Google doubled the costs of their virtual workspace because of the AI bullshit

[sharp star]

Oh those are awful

[sly walrus]

MAORI SHOW

"macos is loved by everyone"

[citation needed]

PLAY BCNR YOU COWARDS

[sharp star]

What is old is new again

Welcome back, Windows Aero

[hazy frost]

macOS has GarageBand

They get my vote

[sly walrus]

fair

been a minute since i garaged a band

invite your friends to play
checks notes
assassin's creed shadows

[tepid gulch]

GarageBand

What is this

2005

[sharp star]

...Did they?

[hazy frost]

Garage band by far the best free DAW

People just see it as the mobile phone app more than the macOS version I swear

[dire viper]

No

[hazy frost]

Logic Pro is also the best DAW of all time 🙏🏻

[dire viper]

Just get FL for free

:)

[hazy frost]

I don’t like FL as much as Logic

[tepid gulch]

I last used garage band in uhhh

[hazy frost]

The only decent fully free one is reaper and the UI is straight out of 2003

[dire viper]

Logic is ok

[tepid gulch]

2007

[dire viper]

FL has a good ecosystem which is what matters

[tepid gulch]

2008

Something like that

[dire viper]

Cause you’re never gonna use just base things

[tepid gulch]

Am I old yet?

[hazy frost]

Yes

[dire viper]

And there are tens of thousands of free samples and synths and etc etc etc

[tepid gulch]

I saw an interview with some high schoolers and they said anyone born before 2005 was old

[hazy frost]

Yeah but I don’t like any of the free ones realistically I’m going to go find something online free or paid anyway

[tepid gulch]

[dire viper]

Most of the free samples are fine cause you can just modify them

[sharp star]

purse owners

[dire viper]

You don’t get bumpin tracks without modifying samples

Timbaland is proof of this

[hazy frost]

Yeah I don’t use samples anyway tho

FL is the best one on windows but I still dislike it

I don’t own a MacBook rn tho

[sharp star]

PSVR2 continues to be even deader than dead

https://theonion.com/apple-unveils-panicked-man-with-no-ideas-1819575555/

[wide juniper]

Where's hardware hank

I need help

Phone fell

had a screen protector on but the LCD is busted anyway

they swapped out my phone

but didn't transfer over any files

I need help

I had downloads I needed

didn't install any of my old apps either

[tepid gulch]

What phone

[wide juniper]

Moto G5 Stylus

Tried to connect it to an HDMI display but that didn't work

[tepid gulch]

Is the broken one useable at all?

[wide juniper]

no. the screen is not responding

[tepid gulch]

If not you're gonna have to plug it into a computer with a USB cable and move things with a PC as a middle man

[wide juniper]

I tried. It's not finding any files

[hazy frost]

U may be out of luck then

[wide juniper]

I NEED THOSE FILES

I NeED THOSE DOWNLOADS

[tepid gulch]

Sounds like you probably have to allow the computer to Access the files on the phone itself

Which uhh

Is bad

[wide juniper]

I can't even get past the lock screen rn

[tepid gulch]

Like there's probably a setting on the phone you have to enable or a popup to allow file access

[wide juniper]

mom's telling me to calm down but I had so much on that phone

[tepid gulch]

Yeah that's a problem then

[hazy frost]

Is the phone broken as in display doesn’t turn on at all or display is on but messed up and no touch screen

[wide juniper]

the display is messed up and the touch screen isn't working

[potent arrow]

the only hope you really have is either replacing the screen or trying a dongle to plug in a mouse

[hazy frost]

U can buy adaptors to plug in a mouse

And try that

[tepid gulch]

That should work

[hazy frost]

Otherwise nothing u can do

[wide juniper]

I did

[potent arrow]

most modern android phones have OTG support

[wide juniper]

but that's not working either

fuckin

how do I get the screen replaced

[potent arrow]

go to a store and pay for it

[wide juniper]

I tried that

[potent arrow]

find a third party repair place

[wide juniper]

they gave me a new phone instead

fuckin

i'm so fucking ANGRY

I have files I can't redownload on there

[potent arrow]

what? did you go to a third party repair place or did you go to your contract store

[hazy frost]

Go somewhere and say no when they ask that

[wide juniper]

I went to my contract store

[hazy frost]

And get it repaired

[potent arrow]

that's not going to a repair store

[wide juniper]

well it's too late because they gave me a new phone

[potent arrow]

go to a third-party repair store

[wide juniper]

there are no repair stores near me

[hazy frost]

Not really bc u can just

Go to a repair store

[potent arrow]

it's not too late you still have the phone...

[hazy frost]

If it’s this important u need to travel

[wide juniper]

and the last time I went to a repair store they held my laptop for a month

[hazy frost]

This is the solution

[tepid gulch]

A new screen on an older phone is really cheap

[wide juniper]

also I do not have any money

[potent arrow]

Dude I don't know what you want us to say lmao we've given you the option

[hazy frost]

Well unfortunately that’s all u can do

No money no fix

U tried the free stuff

[potent arrow]

if it's this important that's literally all ya can do

[hazy frost]

May this perhaps be a lesson to back stuff up

[potent arrow]

it's not being picked up by the PC, it's not working with OTG, you didn't back anything up it's just stuck in data jail lol

[drowsy star]

Wow iPad finally getting the OS update it deserves it took long enough

[potent arrow]

If the data is this important the cost of a repair of screen is much less then the data

that's just how it is

[tepid gulch]

That's why I have no data that isn't accessible through a cloud app of some sort

Drive or Google photos

That's all I ise

Use

[potent arrow]

I don't trust my phone given how I treat it lol

so nothing important is on there ever

[tepid gulch]

I also use 2 phones so I kinda have to have data accessible from multiple endpoints

I have an older personal phone I take out and use for business then a newer personal phone I use for productivity and stuff at home

If something happens to the older phone it doesn't matter too much

[hazy frost]

I back stuff up to an actual drive on my pc or laptop lmao

[tepid gulch]

That's fair too

[hazy frost]

I keep some stuff on cloud but I just hate managing my subscriptions

I pay the £1 a month iCloud for like 50gb of whatever

[tepid gulch]

If you wanted to be super secure you could just make your own NAS

[hazy frost]

But I have a 256gb phone using ~230

[tepid gulch]

And connect it to the Internet even

So you could use it anywhere

[hazy frost]

Yeah

That’s end goal when I have somewhere to put it so it’s quiet

Cheap old HDD storage from office PCs or servers

[tepid gulch]

I should do that at some point since enterprise grade drives are pretty cheap nowadays

Yeah you can get some cheap used ones even

That are hardly used

Stuff data centers are selling off that are barely half life

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s crazy how much u can get for like $50-100 an avg person can back up everything they need

[tepid gulch]

I'll do it when I move

[hazy frost]

4TB HDD for £50? Yes please

I’ll probably get like 4 2TB ones

[tepid gulch]

I'd get enough to do raid 5

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[tepid gulch]

Just in case

[hazy frost]

3 4TB drives is too much for me so I’ll just buy a few 2TB ones

They’re like £20 each anyway

[tepid gulch]

Yeah I'd probably do that too