technology-discussion

[sly elk]

they could shift resource as demand shifts

[dire viper]

Yea main issue is internet

[hazy frost]

They won’t manage to shift professionals to cloud services imo

Gamers maybe

[dire viper]

Utah has lots of fiber that’s good

But Utah is an exception

[hazy frost]

But I don’t see it working out bc rn it’s a money sink and not enough people can use it due to internet which Nvidia isn’t fixing

[dire viper]

Because fiber here is price regulated

[hazy frost]

In the UK u can get good internet now but it’s only more recent

[dire viper]

Cities have contracts with the line layers and ISPs

[hazy frost]

Most of Europe is still not amazing at regular prices

Most of NA isn’t either

[dire viper]

Google fiber is the only one that’s not on a weird contract and it’s incredibly expensive here

[hazy frost]

Let alone the poorer countries

[sly elk]

they could buy microsoft lol

[hazy frost]

There’s only one good ISP here for gigabit but it’s not good everywhere in England

[dire viper]

Like we pay 20 bucks a month for 15MB up and down, Google fiber is triple that

However many megabits 15MB is or whatever

[hazy frost]

Could and will are fortunately very different

[sly elk]

it was a joke

[hazy frost]

Ours is like £25 for gigabit down and 200mb ish up

The package is more but when u take everything else out it’s about that

[sly elk]

HEH

[dire viper]

I could have a 1GB service lmao

[sly elk]

in for another cancellation email 😄

[hazy frost]

lol

[dire viper]

They offer 10GB for commercial here or something outrageous

But it’s a few hundred a month

[hazy frost]

GPU prices here are basically normal again already

Was fast

[dire viper]

The 1GB service is like 100 bucks a month but then you gotta get a new box or something

[hazy frost]

100 is crazy

[dire viper]

Oh that’s cheap here

[hazy frost]

Ours is like 100 for TV Netflix SIM card and internet

[dire viper]

The other options are like 200+

For Comcast but comcast is… yea

It’s literally comcast vs the fiber ISP’s here and Comcast is slowly getting driven out which is nice

[sly elk]

huh

that newegg order actually got confirmed

[dire viper]

What for confirmed

[hazy frost]

We have virgin for everything lol

[dire viper]

I wish we had Virgin

[hazy frost]

Some people hate it bc the customer service is horrible but it works almost 100% of the time anyway

It’s the most reliable internet service we’ve ever had lmao

Sky was by far the worst

[sly elk]

where i live the options are frontier fiber and spectrum cable

[hazy frost]

I don’t miss 60mb download speeds

[sly elk]

spectrum is way cheaper but frontier is more reliable from what I can tell lol

[hazy frost]

For basically the same price as our current internet

U can get sky, virgin, BT, or one of the 10 city fibre networks that exist here now

Sky and BT are still god awful I think only old people use them atp

[sly elk]

ohh apparently order confirmed does not mean it won't get canceled >>

[hazy frost]

Lmao

Yeah

It’s gone through for now

It’ll be cancelled in an hour

Good times

Can’t get a good 9070xt rn but the 7900xt is back to £600

And used prices are normal

Genuinely might have better availability here than NA for once

9070 is in stock but for 600 as well

Which ig is only 50 over MSRP

[sly elk]

ah my order moved to 'packaging' which apparently DOES mean it's safe

[hazy frost]

People forgot the 9070 exists bc of xt hype

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/holo-wise-wolf-holo-the-wise-wolf-spice-and-wolf-ookami-to-koushinryou-gif-16887979329778540131

[hazy frost]

OC it and its just the same thing

[hazy frost]

Hopefully

I need them to make a 9080xt so I can get the yeston model as an upgrade

[sly elk]

if this ships I'll be rather chuffed lol

[hazy frost]

Got so excited u turned British

[sly elk]

https://yestonstore.com/collections/rx-9000-series sadly not a deal in the US

$899 and $869 for the 9070xt and they somehow sold out right away

[hazy frost]

Yeah they’re not a good deal for any of the models tbf

The 4070 super was like $700

[sly elk]

my dad was british lol

[hazy frost]

But they do look awesome

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/keeping-up-appearances-britbox-wonderful-wonderful-news-perfect-gif-12677184

[hazy frost]

Only card I’d pay the extra money for

[sly elk]

admittedly

[hazy frost]

And they smell good too

[sly elk]

aside from the steel legend being probably the cheapest card I could possibly get right now

well it's also the best looking for the price LOL

but uh

yea the yeston card looks great, the sapphire nitro looks awesome too

[hazy frost]

I’d get the yeston or aorus one out of choice I think

Or sapphire nitro

[sly elk]

i also like the xfx with the rgb but those are $819-849 here in the US

the aorus elite looks great, those are 759 in the US

[hazy frost]

Gigabyte aorus stuff is nicer looking than anything ASUS makes that everyone wants imo

[sly elk]

i owned a gigabyte 3070 for a bit

[hazy frost]

Rog is a lot tackier

[sly elk]

it was a really really nice card

[hazy frost]

Yeah I’d like to have one but they’re not worth the price

Current one is MSI and tbf good build quality wouldn’t rly exchange it

[sly elk]

the aorus card costing 759 is pretty middle of the range here, especially since the tariffs

the asus tuf is 799, fwiw

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s not terrible

[sly elk]

the prime started at 599 but i doubt anyone will find those for less than 700 going forward

[hazy frost]

It’s one of the nicest models out there and isn’t cheaply made like others costing that much

[sly elk]

i'm curious how that asrock will be, first time I've ever bought a computer part from them

[hazy frost]

I just buy the cheapest one now anyway

[hazy frost]

Asrock is great

[sly elk]

i've had asus, zotac, gigabyte, evga, sapphire, xfx

[hazy frost]

Especially recently with the motherboards

GPUs have always been pretty good

[sly elk]

the asrock boards are just such a good deal

[hazy frost]

Asrock pro rs motherboards are amazing for the price

The x870 was like $170

The b650 was $135

[sly elk]

though I am using a msi board and I'm really happy with it

[hazy frost]

The a620 is one of few with a 120w limit too

And it’s like $110

So u can use it for half decent CPUs later as upgrades

I think 2 of the few that have 120w limits are both asrock

[hazy frost]

Mines asus unfortunately

[sly elk]

tbh for a 3 fan card

[hazy frost]

The cheap x670e

[sly elk]

that gigabyte 3070 was the most solid 3 fan gpu i've ever had lol

it was also the smallest

hehe what makes me laugh is how much asus inflated the cost on their boards

[hazy frost]

I have the biggest 3 fan I’ve ever had lmao

[sly elk]

that maximus hero cost me like 379 or something

these days that line of boards is like 600 bucks

[hazy frost]

I have one of the 10 biggest 4070tis or something

It’s stupid

[hazy frost]

Yeah the rog x670e was like £650 usually

I paid idk like £180

Maybe 190

Plus shipping so over 200 total but I’ll take it

Honestly considering selling for a cheaper x870 or b650 now

The fear of something going wrong and having to deal with asus

[sly elk]

i wonder if LGR has covered that one

[sharp star]

Christ what

they’re all 4D even

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/--RZs4oPc6Y?si=J3EHxY--Q__bzVj_

[potent arrow]

I just dropped 300$ on a new headphone set up

well

dac and amp

and its like enough to make me smile lmao

[dire viper]

yes

I gota FiiO dac

vury ncie

i just had a stroke

holy moly

[potent arrow]

Atom Dac and ELE Amp II+

[dire viper]

I want an amp

but I feel like I would need actually nice headphones

something that requires more power

but also nowadays, lots of higher end headphones have the benefit of being in the modern era so the drivers take relatively low power to run

[potent arrow]

whats your headphones lol

[dire viper]

my old ATH's broke a year ago (they were a 400 dollar model) and now I dont make any money so I have some Senn HD 280 Pro's

[potent arrow]

ah yeah

[dire viper]

ngl

even the cheap senns sound so good

well, at least the older ones, unsure about the new stuff

I had these Senns for a few years just in the box cause they were half off at a guitar center and I just went why not

still had shrink wrap

my new IEM's are pretty good

Truthear x Crinacle Zero

[potent arrow]

I wear hd6xx for dailies and hd800s whenever I need to do work

but Im thinking about focal clears

[dire viper]

sarah

im moving in and mooching off of you

u can pay me in board and food and I will sit there 24/7 watching the 3D printer

u can print figs 24/7

on a serious note

IEM's are awesome but you kinda dont get that openness you get with headphones 😔

I want some really nice open backs

these IEM's tho feel pretty similar to the HD 280's tho

[potent arrow]

I cant wear iems too much anymore lol

[dire viper]

I need super small nubs

[hazy frost]

Same even the small ones get uncomfortable after a couple hours

I had to get rid of the HD6xx because it’s too loud for open backs and now I have DT770s instead

Except I use the WF C700N whenever I’m not at my desk bc I couldn’t afford the xm5s

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/7J5CxA_cOak?si=571PF8R36JsK2Cu2 ooo

3500 a month shop

includes AC which is rare as fuck for cali shops

I love watching cali based shops and you can see that their shirt is just WET

cooked alive for content

[hot shadow]

that's just their fanservice!

[dire viper]

lmao

1 hour of shop technician passed out on the floor with heat stroke

ASMR

[pliant iris]

Should i choose 7800xt over 6800xt?

[dapper nymph]

depends on how much the price gap is

i've got a 3700x and a 7800xt, i want to upgrade the cpu later on as there's a bottleneck issue on low demanding games

mhwilds runs fine now, but im not sure my settings are fit for ff14 anymore

[wild wyvern]

Ehhh ur fine@dapper nymph

[dapper nymph]

i've got vsr and gpu scaling up for now, but the framerate is an issue

[wild wyvern]

But cpu is abit old so

[dapper nymph]

on warframe, my fps goes from 200 into sub 60 which is worse than the 2060s on a 1080p

[pliant iris]

So?

[wild wyvern]

huh

[dapper nymph]

get the 7800xt? i dont even know the price gap you have

[dapper nymph]

it's old, yeah, was planning to get the 5800x but it's discontinued and the 9600/700 is cheaper

the issue being i'm somewhat strapped on cash now to get a new motherboard, cpu and ram

i upgraded the psu to a 850w as well

so, i'll be living with this setup for a while, need to figure out how to fix the severity

it's quite bad on warframe

[wild wyvern]

i think lower tge settings for now

[dapper nymph]

me not knowing amd adrenaline well is a pain

[wild wyvern]

[real edge]

9070/9070xt

[dapper nymph]

9070 is currently double msrp for me

the psu and 7800xt i got is the msrp of the 9070

[real edge]

thats an oof

[dapper nymph]

if counting scalpers, it'll be triple

but usual retailers have it double, or 25% more on msrp if in a set as a discount

and hey, least i got a copy of mhwilds from it too

...still need to figure out how to mitigate bottlenecks on almost every other game besides wilds

[pliant iris]

I found used 6800xt for 375 usd

[dapper nymph]

i dont think either my cpu or gpu usage is that high, but i'm probably seeing things wrong

i didn't expect the bottleneck to make it perform worse than a 2060s

[dapper nymph]

ff14 seems to be fine with vsr i think

i hope

eh, probably iss a cpu bottleneck im facing, least it's fine in when cpu isn't as demanding

[dull garnet]

my 5800X3D is at like 2% most of the time while I'm playing FF14 lol

[golden stream]

Praise le x3d caches

[sharp star]

God I wish Intel would come up with a way to set them apart from AMD and be competitive with them

(not happening)

[golden stream]

Imma get 5700x3d soon

[golden stream]

Iirc mostly in gaming laptop section tho

A lotta intels

[sharp star]

Yeah

X3D laptops are still new…ish.

[golden stream]

No I mean AMD CPU gaming laptop is p rare esp in SEA

[sharp star]

I thought Intel dominated the laptop space in general.

[golden stream]

It is and it's still

Lmfao typo

[sharp star]

Yeah I don’t have a pulse on the laptop space

I only have one because I travel

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/news/630647/samsung-q990d-soundbar-freezing-bricked-firmware-update

INCREDIBLE

[lost python]

average samsung experience

[wraith agate]

why is this keep happening

[sharp star]

Samsung is literally the most powerful entity in South Korea, too bad they make shit products

[lost python]

at some point you just get so big that the most efficient way to generate shareholder value is to lay off people and save even the smallest pennies during production

[hot shadow]

theyre laying off 30% of their mexico labor btw

first cause it's the furthest they can cull without affecting main branch

[sly walrus]

that’s the samsung difference, baybee

[sly elk]

someone suggested that for people having issues with their odyssey g9s waking from sleep with windows computers, to download/install the driver from samsung... and guess what.....
it does seem to work lol

funny how i don't need to do that on any other OS....

[sharp star]

https://www.xda-developers.com/steamos-release-rumor/ wonder what "almost here" is in Valve Time

[hazy frost]

2040

Delayed until 2042

[sharp star]

"One week" it's actually four years

[hazy frost]

I hope by like 2030 lol

Also wouldn’t surprise me if it took longer tho lol

[sharp star]

The final TF2 comic was released seven years, eleven months and ten days after it was announced that it was "coming soon"

[sly elk]

same as the arrival of tesla's full self driving

[sharp star]

the apocalypse, then, got it

[sly elk]

tbh if valve can get the other major game studios to back steamos it'd be huge

the 2nd biggest mobile gaming platform is also linux-based sooo i imagine focusing on linux game development would speed up android development, too

[sharp star]

Bungie for some fucking reason: “No”

[hot shadow]

I want another valve gameu

[hazy frost]

they havent done anything good in years

sony curse now

can only imagine how it would be if it were public given how bad it was already lmao

[potent arrow]

this is getting absurd

[hot shadow]

nice dac

and amp

[potent arrow]

this brings great joy

[sly elk]

nice stack

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/yNFZwxXX8Q0?si=FIS0PFZ2LJfQ0AfT

[dire viper]

@cold yacht @sly elk I think the reason why the new charger looks the way it does is because of one little thing

owned by the head of stellantis design

mf Ralph Gilles is down and dirty for vintage maseratis, alfas, and mopars

[sly elk]

yeaaa

i seriously don't think it's a bad looking car

and I haven't driven one, but so far I think the car reviewers are being hella unfair about it lol

[dire viper]

the EV's are kinda stinky apparently

but the gas ones are alright

[sly elk]

that said fuck those door handles

[dire viper]

they really arent any better than former chargers

which is the issue

but also the issue of the previous cars

[sly elk]

that will be a tough nut to crack

the old charger had flaws but they were forgivable because you could get a basic v8 for 35-40k usually

like they cost ford mustang kinda money

also I'm still not sure they ever did anything wrong?

like

[dire viper]

its kinda funny getting into talks about the hemi's

[sly elk]

suppose they made the charger true to its roots and made it a 2 door sports car

great!

[dire viper]

cause they make less power than total cubic inches

[sly elk]

make it smaller and less practical and more expensive

[dire viper]

which a 426 Hemi on carbs back in the 60's and 70's made 450hp....

[sly elk]

that'll do wonders for profits

[dire viper]

just kind of a terrible time to reinvent an entire brand

[sly elk]

i wanna say the elephant in the room is that sedans are a dead market

[dire viper]

yea

[sly elk]

and that's probably why they launched the 2 door first

[dire viper]

even ppl who buy SUV's very rarely need the 4 doors and the big trunk

which

is sad

wait until we start seeing more "coupe" SUV's

[sly elk]

and to make things worse, I'm not even sure that stellantis can grow their suv market any more than they already have

[dire viper]

Porsche already was selling the coupe roofline Cayenne

BMW has 2 coupe model SUV's

Mercedes has one

[sly elk]

they already have wranglers, grand cherokees, and dodge durangos all over the place

i mean

[dire viper]

the one thing I know about jeep and dodge buyers

they will always buy

[sly elk]

maybe they could sell a chrysler lexus rx wannabe?

[dire viper]

they are different than even Harley tho

Harley buyers are all dying

[sly elk]

but that would be a tough uphill battle

[dire viper]

meanwhile Dodge/Jeep buyers grow up in a family of dodge/jeep buyers

[sly elk]

and I'm not convinced that we'll ever see the chrysler brand used on a new car again lol

even if I do think they could successfully do it

[dire viper]

a new Chrysler would have to be mid luxury

[sly elk]

but it doesn't even have to be 'new'

they can do what they already were doing before lol

[dire viper]

the sales werent there

[sly elk]

believe it or not, I think that was the best method

then it probably shouldn't exist

[dire viper]

like its been shit as a CDJR dealer for a decade now

[sly elk]

like

to me it makes zero sense to try and sell it as 'dodge but not sporty'

erm

which I think is what they actually want to do

they want to go after honda buyers

[dire viper]

no that is not what they are gonna do with chrysler

because Dodge already covers low-mid market

Chrysler was slowing down BECAUSE of Dodge

why would you buy a boring chrysler when a V8 Charger was in the same lot?

[sly elk]

what i'd heard before on allpar was that they wanted dodge to be the sports oriented brand with sporty fast cars

and chrysler the 'mainstream' brand

but a lot of people threw around 'buick' as the benchmark for what that meant

[sly elk]

you're asking a dude who bought a boring chrysler 😄

[dire viper]

yea

but you arent most buyers

like not to insult peoples intelligence, but most car buyers are the dumbest people alive

they have no idea about what they are buying

[sly elk]

the boring chrysler was the exact same car as the v8 charger, just had a less ugly and less intrusive dashboard, and more headroom in the back

[dire viper]

they are buying a brand

[sly elk]

and less likely to be seen doing donuts in a street takeover

[sly elk]

to be fair, the people who buy a car using a spreadsheet are the worst

[dire viper]

meh

[sly elk]

that's how you end up with a toyota rav4 or a subaru ascend or a chevy traverse or whatever

[dire viper]

I think its good to look at options, weigh the cons, and then ignore it and buy what you actually want

[sly elk]

consumer reports best car of the year

4 years in a row

and it has the longest warranty and free maintenance

[dire viper]

yea consumer reports is insane

[sly elk]

and 0.99% apr!

also it's $10/mo cheaper on insurance

[dire viper]

also Rav4's are getting shit on currently

[sly elk]

I practically had no choice!

-points at off white suv-

[dire viper]

toyota problems are kinda wacky currently

but the Rav4 is considered too pricy now

it really is amusing tho that Toyota has killed themselves partially by BEING boring

the current executive fights in japan in the company are just weird

Akio Toyoda is responsible for the maintained stability of toyota, where he was prioritizing the company surviving over chasing profits, which now that hes not the big wig is changing

he also understood that selling just boring cars will kill your company

everybody wants a charger/challenger regardless of if its a V6 or Hemi BECAUSE of the Demon, the Hellcat, the SRT8

hence why Akio wiggled his influence and got the MR2 and Celica to come back, in what form we dont know yet but people in japan are confident they will be sports cars

the golden age of the cheap sports car arms race may be returning

[sly elk]

i have respect for toyota doing that

[sly elk]

amnd yep yep yep

[dire viper]

imagine if we got an SRT4 Dart

[hazy frost]

MR2 crossover

Can’t wait

[dire viper]

nah the MR2 will be a JP only sports car from what ppl can gather

[sly elk]

this is toyota we're talking about, not gm

[dire viper]

although no good translations of the jp stuff

[sly elk]

GM would do that

[dire viper]

Celica will be right above the 86

[sly elk]

tbh I'm surprised they haven't sold a corvette suv yet

[hazy frost]

The eclipse

Lmao

[sly elk]

i know they really really really want to

[hazy frost]

The celica could actually be exciting if they don’t put an I4 that explodes in it

[dire viper]

the 2000's super duo

the Neon SRT4 and Cobalt SS

also I like how the Z4 is now available in a manual again

the whole Z4/Supra deal made it so the Supra was the manual car

but thats now up so BMW is selling the Z4 with a manual

[hazy frost]

The next gen gr86 isn’t going to have a Subaru engine either supposedly

[dire viper]

yer

thank god

subaru needs to do a full ground up flat 4

[hazy frost]

Worst part of the current car

[dire viper]

cause using whats essntially a 40 year old engine is absurd

[hazy frost]

If they can still keep it down to the price it currently is with the new engine that would also be cool

[dire viper]

just copy and paste a mezger flat 6 with two cylinders cut off

fix subaru

imagine 9000rpm flat 4 WRX

[dire viper]

yer

[hazy frost]

Subaru doesn’t make anything interesting anymore anyway I doubt they’d do anything lol

The joint effort on the brz was as good as it gets

[dire viper]

Subaru just doesnt have that much money

[sly elk]

lol or go the ford route

and make all your mainstream cars use a turbocharged 3cyl

[dire viper]

they cant pull a Mazda and be renowed for engineering and so get contracted by other companies for stuff

[hazy frost]

Turbocharged small engines are great if u don’t do what the Yaris does

[dire viper]

bring back 3 liter i4's

they are so dumb

but they feel so good to drive

[sly elk]

no sir

you'll have that 0.9L 280hp engine that turns off at every red light AND YOU'LL LIKE IT.

[hazy frost]

I prefer small turbocharged engines over anything else lol

[dire viper]

I dont think the 944's i4 ever had balance shafts and it was like the 190E where without them, the engines were unbelievably smooth

[dire viper]

lmao

[hazy frost]

0.9l 280hp is doing pretty good

[dire viper]

I mean

2.9 V8

the funny engine

[sly elk]

until the warranty ends

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[sly elk]

also cvt with lifetime fluid

[dire viper]

lifetime fluid is a myth unfortunately 😔

I actually blame Castrol/Penzoil for that

[sly elk]

you're getting 280hp out of a 0.9L, the lifetime can't be that long

[hazy frost]

I’m seeing how much I can make from the 1.2 before it explodes and then I have an excuse to get the TT 1.6

For science

[dire viper]

cause Castrol pushed it super heavy at first

[hazy frost]

I’d rather not have a car than a CVT

[dire viper]

all bad things lead back to Castrol

™️

I say as I am putting castrol 10W60 in my car

[sly elk]

oh also the turbo is on national backorder

[dire viper]

because its one of two companies that makes 10W60 that is stocked in stores

[sly elk]

so is this list of 37 model-specific parts

[dire viper]

even the Valvoline 10W60 is special order only

[sly elk]

and we're never going to sell them to you even though it's illegal for us to do that

[dire viper]

Kyanche reciting the average jeep owners experience

[hazy frost]

Really?

[dire viper]

oh btw

[hazy frost]

Pretty sure u can just buy it here

[dire viper]

Kyanche

bunch of stuff for jeeps is going on recall=

lots of mechanical bits

[hazy frost]

We had some at the garage before

[dire viper]

yea valvoline is rare for some reason

at least the 10W60

[sly elk]

that's surprising

[dire viper]

VR1 in 10W40 and 10W50 is easy to find

[sly elk]

there's a bunch of valvoline oil change shops in my town

[dire viper]

im unsure if the wrangler has any recall stuff but the parts being recalled are ODD

[sly elk]

i wonder if they have 10w60

[hazy frost]

I mean it’s not the main one I see here but it’s not special order rare to see it

[dire viper]

yea there are valvoline quick lubes here

they just dont have 10W60

[sly elk]

i wouldn't trust a wrangler made in 2020 that's for sure

[hazy frost]

I’ve seen like 4 companies do 10w60

[sly elk]

a 2023 should be ok

i heard the 2024s have been a shit show of issues

[dire viper]

I would go to them if they did cause they are pretty fair in price

and the valvoline guys usually have to have a brain

[hazy frost]

lol

[dire viper]

which is why valvoline doesnt have as many locations as other companies LOL

[sly elk]

i take the cadillac to a small local franchise

they're expensive but they are really good at fluid changes

[hazy frost]

Yeah I can buy a litre of 10w60 for £10

[dire viper]

damn thats cheap as hell

oh well

[hazy frost]

5l for 40

[sly elk]

all hand tools and checklists and stuff

[hazy frost]

Plus whatever delivery is idk

[dire viper]

at cost for my car

6 liters of 10W60

140 bucks

[hazy frost]

Lmao how

[dire viper]

for Castrol

[sly elk]

😮 HOLY SHIT

[dire viper]

at cost

[hazy frost]

That’s wild

[dire viper]

lmao

yea

[sly elk]

well 6 liters is a decent amount

[hazy frost]

Castrol one is £75 here I think

Tbf

[dire viper]

I think Liqui Moly is only slightly cheaper

[hazy frost]

Valvoline is a lot cheaper

£75 is what like $90 tho still

[sly elk]

i'm used to buying the 5qt jug of mobil1 0w20 for $27 or so

[dire viper]

E90 M3 takes 8.5 liters per change

[hazy frost]

$100

[dire viper]

and imagine taking one to an expensive independent/dealer

[hazy frost]

I wish I could afford maintenance on one of these

Lmao

They’re cheap as hell to buy

[dire viper]

spend like 250 bucks in oil on top of the 250 dollars for the labor hour

cause yes labor is that expensive

[sly elk]

christian if you want a laugh

when the jl wrangler came out a big huge problem that went on for like the first 3 years

was people would take their wrangler to the dealer for an oil change and they'd overfill the oil

because the old ones took 6qt and the newer ones take 5qt

[hazy frost]

I forget people actually pay someone to change oil

[dire viper]

lmao

[sly elk]

it depends on the vehicle though

like I do my own oil changes on my jeep because it's too easy

[hazy frost]

I mean there’s some cars that actually are annoying to do it on

[dire viper]

I aint doing an oil change on a modern 911 myself

fuck that

[hazy frost]

But it’s not THAT many

[sly elk]

on a normal car where you have to remove the lower shield and stuff

[hazy frost]

Most people own a car where it’s easy

[sly elk]

forget it man

[dire viper]

cause the design of the porsche flats makes it so oil literally cannot almost entirely drain

you usually have half quart or more

left

[sly elk]

so you have to use a vacuum?

[hazy frost]

Idk like spending a couple hours is usually worth it here to do bc people aren’t making enough for it to be worth their time taking it to a dealer

[dire viper]

I dont think the brand new ones are vacuum yet

but you have to measure how much you drain

the like

996/997 arent as bad

[sly elk]

fair but if you're in the uk, I think cars are just different there

like

[dire viper]

but when porsche went to more complex flat 6's for the 991 till now its become a deal

[sly elk]

I imagine cars in the UK are strictly a luxury item

[dire viper]

but also lots of oil info is missinfo

[hazy frost]

That’s why I don’t own a 911

Too much hassle

[dire viper]

oil is pretty good at lasting forever

[hazy frost]

I mean everyone outside of cities has one

[dire viper]

issue is contaminants

always will have trace oil and trace fuel in your oil

so if its in there for a LONG time it becomes excessive

[sly elk]

hehe especially if you only do city driving and short trips

[hazy frost]

People just make like £20 an hour so when an oil change costs u £150 it’s like nah

[sly elk]

then it reeks of gasoline

[sly elk]

on a regular car?!

150 pounds?!

WTF

[hazy frost]

I’ve seen 150 around London

It’s a bit less across some of the country

[sly elk]

like 150 for a mondeo?!

[dire viper]

labor in europe also costs way more than in the US even

[hazy frost]

Usually atl like 70

[dire viper]

German shop labor is insane

but also german techs get paid well so

[sly elk]

70 I can understand

so here's the thing about car service in the US

[hazy frost]

People get paid nothing whatever job they do here lmao

So it doesn’t matter

[dire viper]

its funny that me saying "oh the local BMW performance shop charges 250 an hour, its insane!" to someone in germany makes them lose it cause its even more there

[sly elk]

if you buy a honda or a ford or whatever

[hazy frost]

Most people get their oil changed with like a full/half service tho so they’re spending more money anyway

[sly elk]

it's common for cars sold in the US to come with at least a few free oil changes from the dealer

[dire viper]

yea

[sly elk]

if they don't, the dealers often have a $30-50 special

in which they're often losing money

[dire viper]

well a lot of new warranties include all oil changes up to like 50k miles or 3 years

[sly elk]

but they do it to get people in and sell them wiper blades, air filters, tires, etc

[dire viper]

or you be BMW

leases include all regular maintenance

[sly elk]

also it takes all friggin day

[dire viper]

and even some extra maintenance

[sly elk]

if you go to an indie shop or an oil change shop you're going to pay $100 for that same oil change lol

but you'll be in and out in like 20-30 mins

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[sly elk]

you pay for that convenience

then again a lot of the oil change shops are kinda scammy

[hazy frost]

For a 30 min job tho I can’t fathom paying so much money when u can do it urself

It’s not like u can rly mess anything up

[sly elk]

yea i can understand too

[hazy frost]

But I feel like most people don’t actually know what changing oil is so they never realise how easy it is anyway

They’ve just always taken it to a garage

[sly elk]

hehe my jeep is easy because i can get under it without lifting it

[dire viper]

most low profile jacks dont even fit under the M3

[sly elk]

i just hook up the drain hose onto a valve cap i bought and then it drains into a dish

[dire viper]

gotta get insanely thin ones

cause the undertray is even lower than the edges of the body

and the easiest jack points on the car is going to the subframe lift points on the front and rear

which honestly is a good design on BMW's part

having lift points at the subframes themselves

[hazy frost]

I can get pretty much any under my car atm

[dire viper]

just gonna get a drive over lube bay in my garage at this point

[hazy frost]

Honestly only difficult to do stuff bc my driveway is on a hill and isn’t flat

Watching the bolt I dropped roll down the driveway through the gate and into the flower bed never to be seen again

[sly elk]

heh you reminded me of a thing that some old shops here have

alignment pit shops lmao

[dire viper]

yer

they used to have self service lube bays here

just pay 30 bucks an hour

and an oil disposal fee

which is kinda wacky but also nice if you dont have the resources otherwise

[sly elk]

those are an urban legend I heard about on vwvortex

but i've never actually seen

[dire viper]

they do exist

well

did

[sly elk]

i mean i'm from california, they probably never existed here LOL

[dire viper]

my grandpa used them constantly here and in florida

until he moved back here and didnt wanna hastle with working on his own stuff anymore

which was a lot cause he liked buying the american cars that always had issues lmao

vs my grandma whos always bought mazdas

[hazy frost]

Could be worse could’ve been buying British cars like my grandparents did

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-shit-car-door-came-off-gif-5232895

[dire viper]

british cars suffering from the most insane shit ever

[sly elk]

i finally watched the last episode of grand tour yesterday

[dire viper]

rover sucked cause they let the bodies sit outside before painting

[sly elk]

took all afternoon because of interruptions here LOL but uh man

[dire viper]

aka

[sly elk]

i want more stupid english car guys

[dire viper]

ruin the cars before they left the factories

[hazy frost]

Not a single good car until like

Idk

80s? Or 90s

[sly elk]

imma say

that sounds like something jeep would do

[hazy frost]

Have to love a morris minor

[dire viper]

it took BMW helping Land Rover to bring them back fully

[hazy frost]

VW beetle if it was garbage

[sly elk]

tho;ugh i think 2020-2021 gm had the worst record for brand new cars covered in rust underneath lmao

ford too

they were like parking unfinished trucks in fields that then got flooded

[hazy frost]

Lotus remains the best British company tbf despite some

[sly elk]

80s and even early 90s american cars were spectacularly shitty

[hazy frost]

Fun problems

[sly elk]

i mean in general i think cars in that era were terrible lmao

[hazy frost]

Almost everything in the 70s and 80s was shitty from Europe and NA

[sly elk]

even toyotas were kinda

at least the ones my friends/neighbors had

but it's also great to look back and be like

imagine if they tried to make a car like that today lmao

[hazy frost]

Well it was better than what u could get from European companies still

Probably

[sly elk]

i mean imagine if a new car today had an interior like this lol

(it's a ford)

80s honda civics appear to have amazing seats though

that shifter xD

[hazy frost]

Ok yeah old Japanese interiors are something

Lmao

Even in the nicer cars they looked cheap compared to European ones

[sly elk]

the later civic was just fantastic

[hazy frost]

Outside of luxury ones

[sly elk]

i mean

it's still 80s cheap af looking but

it looks great

[hazy frost]

I kind of like it in some cars

There’s a difference between just garbage and typical 80s bad kind of vibe tho

Even some of the mid 90s ones I’ve been looking at are rough lmao

[sly elk]

peak 90s

[hazy frost]

Could be 2000s too lmao

I do not miss that era of design

Make everything rounded and ugly!

[sly elk]

oval windows

^ and that one had a v8

oval headlights too

that one looks like it might be screwed on but have you ever seen cars where the license plate mount was molded into the bumper? XD

[hazy frost]

Lmao

Some don’t look bad with it molded in

[sly elk]

oh wow

[hazy frost]

Amazing

[sly elk]

even the ash tray and air vents were oval in the back

you know it's kinda hard to imagine that there used to be times where you could see a car with 4-6 people sitting in it

and everyone was smoking cigarettes lmao

[hazy frost]

It looks like I’m driving a clown car with more than 2 people in it

[sly elk]

waffle

have you ever driven a mini?

like a classic mr bean mini

[hazy frost]

Im lookijg at a gtst or an e36 and the e36 interior is so much nicer inside lmao

[hazy frost]

I’ve not driven one but I’ve been in one

They’re cool but also I hate them and will never own one

[sly elk]

what is the most british thing you've ever driven?

[hazy frost]

Honestly not a lot bc most of the British stuff is classics that u don’t see often

I’ve driven the newer minis briefly but they’re not rly British

[sly elk]

i am somewhat disappointed lol

next you'll be telling me you don't like fish n chips

[hazy frost]

No one has a British car for me to have driven bc they’re shit 😭

No one wants them

I’m not friends with enough nostalgic 80 year old British guys they’re the only people who own them

[sly elk]

heh reminds me of when i was talking to some buddies on dofus who happened to be from aus and i was like

asking about holden utes

adn they were like

dude everyone here drives toyotas

[hazy frost]

Any hatchback is inherently British in nature anyway imo

[sly elk]

the vibe i get on reddit

is everyone in europe switched over to BYD

and bmw is like going broke because of it

[hazy frost]

Lmaoo

BYD is pretty good now I’ve seen a few

I see BYD and the MG EVs

They look fairly good and are cheap for a new car so popular

Plus the EV trend

[hazy frost]

Tbf they’re actually cool unlike British cars so there’s a reason to have one

The actually interesting British stuff is too expensive for me to have driven lol

[dull garnet]

My uncle has the first model year of land rover, that's pretty british

[golden stream]

Holy crab, the secondhand gpu market in here is bad

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream how bad

[golden stream]

Quite

Mostly the xx60 or even xx50 are on sale

Mostly the low vram ones as well

[wild wyvern]

Yeet

[golden stream]

Btw quick question
Is 305 mm clearance for GPU length is ok? Double check for sanity before I order the case tho

[hot shadow]

that's the gamble, enjoy

usually if you're buying huge gpu and only mid-size case, you can expect it to fit but you better have some girl hands to help you really shove it in there carefully and for cables

if that is what you're doing

if the case is more modern though it can have a lot more clearance even if mid-sized. so it depends what you bought

[golden stream]

It's sff case

[hot shadow]

if you're buying one of those weird smaller cases like this shape, it can still fit. but you need girly hands

[golden stream]

And THAT is the issue lol

[wraith agate]

portable microwave

[hot shadow]

lolya

[golden stream]

Lol ye

[hot shadow]

but in all cases it should be ok

[golden stream]

That one I belive something snake

[hot shadow]

cause cases have come a long way since 2 decades ago

[golden stream]

But ye almost similar/same to the one I'm aiming atm

[golden stream]

I mean
I have girly hands

• I used to have a full open bench for years and PC on a shelf soooooo

Jank isn't unfamiliar

[hot shadow]

[golden stream]

Just wanna make sure the 3 fans GPUs are able to fit

https://www.deepcool.com/products/Cases/CH160-Portable-High-Airflow-M-ITX-Case/2024/18115.shtml

Or newegg link bc deepcool website on mobile is pure dumb
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7g7scf/deepcool-ch160-mini-itx-desktop-case-r-ch160-bkngi0-g-1

This one lol

A bit big for SFF but ez to build and not that limited CPU cooler height

[potent arrow]

yeah that's the standard itx squeeze

my gpu can barely fit that tbh

mines 300mm but it's the slimmest 4080 super

[odd sand]

Most modern sff let you pull the 3 sides of the case off, leaving only the support frame. That makes it annoying, but not a super big pita to fit. Although something like the Corsair 2000D is more annoying bc of the weird vertical layout rather than the standard horizontal most SFF go for

https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/100oxkg/update_on_my_sktc_s02_build_7700k_5800x3d/

The really tight fit ones use a PCIE extension cable to mount the GPU not only vertically, but sometimes even behind the mobo etc.

[dire viper]

@potent arrow if you didn’t know there were a few Lexus LFA Spider prototypes built

[odd sand]

Got my new headphone cable from a guy on Etsy after like 6 weeks of waiting
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602244076821020694/1350866452336480286/IMG_20250316_111833.jpg?ex=67d84bec&is=67d6fa6c&hm=a3af8f26efc15e255e31633e7b4c3f884fb404cb111ae035fd2d6f5d1fea6823&

[potent arrow]

aye it's pretty tho

[dull garnet]

Cool, I've thought about getting something like that

Need to replace my pads first really, mine are real flat

[sly elk]

having small hands is the best though

it makes working on cars and computers and appliances so much easier

[sly elk]

wow that looks good

[inland mauve]

got large hands but long, skinny fingers

[sly elk]

that's also a nice combo

my hands are small but my fingers are also on the skinny side so it works

[inland mauve]

they're also very soft because I've never worked hard labour

[wraith agate]

I have small grabby hands

[inland mauve]

and covered in scars because I am stupid

and fuck around and find out

[hot shadow]

i have lego claws

[wraith agate]

Rab I have a job for you

[hot shadow]

w-what is it

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/tmvtmgc-tmvtm-dragonfruit-jttw-journey-to-the-west-gif-25859055

[wraith agate]

I dropped stuffs behind my washing machine and I cannot get it

[hot shadow]

o no ive been scared of that too

i think im gonna have to use that smartphone holder thing nobody likes where it's long and windy

[sly elk]

i haaate it when that happens

if the dryer is next to it, the solution is usually to move the dryer

because even on a flat floor, moving the washer is a friggin pain

unless you have one of those grippy sticks

maybe get one of those

[dire viper]

Yea, apparently they built 3 or 4 (unknown how many) and they’re all in Japan

Basically the really rich existing customers were asked if they wanted one and they sold them for like 450-500k at the time

More than a Ferrari 599 GTO lmao

honestly the ultimate super car lineup from that era would be an LFA Spider and a 599 S.A. Aperta

both convertible versions of their respective super cars

also HOLY SHIT

im gonna lose it

if another person tells me that emissions make cars slower im gonna start buying up historic cars and burning them so nobody can have nice things

money makes cars faster

its always been like that

a mopar with a 426 back in the late 60's and early 70's was 4500 bucks new!

thats as much as a 911T from the era!

you had to pay porsche money for an adequately fast american car!

and its the same way now

you can buy full exhaust systems for new BMW's that have upgraded and larger diameter catalytic converters that meet emissions so those cars can make 800hp and still be emissions compliant in california and europe

and people will go "but thats expensive!" you are already in at least 15-20k to make that much power safely and reliably without blowing up differentials, transmissions and the engine itself

the exhaust is only like 2k

[potent arrow]

@cerulean talon my 2025 desk set up :3

@sly elk you too because you like desk set ups :)

the stack of power lol

so much vhb tape

[sly elk]

it looks really nice and cozy

err wait that's marble?!

[dire viper]

what that glaceon do

[sly elk]

i don't like the idea of having a mic in my face like that though xd

[potent arrow]

Its pretty far from my face

Im small

its about half a meter away but I have to pull it closer if I work

I can push it away too

[potent arrow]

my sweat/skin is very acidic so it eats away at everything, the marble somewhat resists that and its actually really comfortable

[sly elk]

i thought it was dirty white plastic lol

[potent arrow]

not like my palms rest when I type

lmfao

[sly elk]

until i noticed the pattern

[potent arrow]

its marble

[sly elk]

that is pretty cool

[potent arrow]

you can see where my skin is attacking it tho

[potent arrow]

she watches and keeps me company

I love this set up, works well for gmaing and hours of tech support lol

the new kvm seems to work nice too

[sly elk]

i just use my monitor as a kvm now xD

[dire viper]

me with my deep rock loot bug plushie and pokemon decoy plushie

and bob ross

[potent arrow]

BOBR OSSO

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/santiagomayer.com/post/3lkiz34ifkc2g

Santiago Mayer (@santiagomayer.com)

Someone made a Wiley E. Coyote style painted wall to see if Tesla’s autopilot would detect it and well…

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[cerulean talon]

You need more desks and monitors

[dire viper]

thats my mormon boy right there

mark rober my beloved

[sly elk]

had me laughing irl

lmao it sent the mannequin's head flying

[potent arrow]

I might get a new monitor

[cerulean talon]

Need 2 desks, 5 monitors, and some workbenches nods

[potent arrow]

thats gonna be my studio

why is my on prem omada controller dead

what is happening

why

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/l82uCoNQ9qE?si=aLtBgO6k8vbBN36l @potent arrow new noriyaro drift video in his JZX100

this is the car where his pulley flew off mid drifting

bro got his own branded anime girl pinup drift banner in the background 😭

[sly elk]

i was going to buy a new unifi gateway but i think I solved the problems with my network well enough for the moment

nah i still should

i'm kinda playing chicken with my udm

[potent arrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983944768801374288/1350935324364111882/image.png?ex=67d88c10&is=67d73a90&hm=702accb99eca4080f07185df3b90a10a516920e9644c2239a3030b8cc8ff2fc5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

wake up

[sly elk]

that kinda looks like unifi LOL

[random marlin]

i thought that was burnice

[dull garnet]

Cute substitute plush

[sly elk]

arrrrgh

[sly elk]

so you know how I said this 6 hours ago? Well my UDM completely shit the bed and was boot looping

https://tenor.com/view/slime-computer-anime-bath-drop-gif-20030640

@potent arrow seems both of us had network hardware shit itself today

good thing I never threw out my old router lol

not so good thing: I need new equipment NOW

[blazing wagon]

so i have this weird issue i discovered at work today with my laptop

when i plug my earphones in, if i then plug in my laptop charger, i get a buzzing noise loud enough to be painful to keep listening to especially on my left ear. the buzzing noise COMPLETELY goes away once i unplug the charger. what gives and how can i fix this?

[sly elk]

probably a grounding issue

does the charger have a 2 prong plug or a 3 prong?

[blazing wagon]

2 prong, i think

[sly elk]

huh

i have no idea how the grounding works on those :3

[golden stream]

Not really audiophile but I know some stuff
Defo due to ground. The current likely interferes withe the DAC of the laptop. That's why audiophile peep would have a dedicate DAC, or at least a dongle

[blazing wagon]

dac dongle?

[golden stream]

Laptop plugs usually have 3, 2 prongs and 1 female for ground

[golden stream]

Aka the Apple C-to-3.5mm dongle or similar

[blazing wagon]

like this?

[golden stream]

Yep

You can get a Fiio for affordable price

[potent arrow]

a dac would help

same shit happens with my stinky dell

[sly elk]

That’s messed up

If it’s under warranty I’d raise hell lol. But maybe also try a different charger. Or even a different power outlet!!

[blazing wagon]

no, this laptop is 3 yo

the warranty's expired

[blazing wagon]

my headset doesn't gain that buzzing noise if i plug it into my phone and then i charge the phone with the same outlet i just used to charge my laptop and produce that buzzing noise

if i switch to the outlet next to the one i sent, the buzzing goes from "hurts my ear" to "mask-able by music or other audio but still audibly very annoying"

[sly elk]

I think that picture shows a power strip?

when you say 'outlet next to the one i sent' do you mean on that same power strip?

or a different wall outlet?

hmm maybe i should give up on unifi and switch to pfsense on a small computer

that I just can't buy a replacement unifi thing off amazon and have it here next day most of the time really pisses me off

[dire viper]

@sly elk I have learned of yet another weird Mercedes, the CL600. It uses the M275 twin turbo V12. 517hp and 830NM (626ft lbs)

There is also a CL63 AMG

CL600 (first image), CL63 AMG (second image)

[sly elk]

when i was in college I remember a foreign student having something like that car

[dire viper]

They honestly have a nice interior

The AMG interior is alright

I wish it had wood instead of carbon but the carbon isn’t excessive and just in highlight points

[sly elk]

is that not an s class coupe

it kinda looks like it

[dire viper]

Nah CL is kinda its own thing

It’s why it doesn’t exist anymore

[sly elk]

it's weird

[dire viper]

Very expensive to make

The AMG was 176,000 brand new

[sly elk]

like what's the difference between a cla and the s class coupe in amg form

also

i'd really like to take a bigger merc for a drive sometime

[dire viper]

Guess how much they are now lmao

[sly elk]

sometimes just by how the dimensions appear

i feel like it'd be real familiar

[dire viper]

1 owner car for 25k when it was 176k new….

That’s fucking insane depreciation

[sly elk]

yea i wonder why people buy them

[dire viper]

I would buy that for 25k

[sly elk]

because 176k when those were new was almost lambo money

or idk

[dire viper]

That’s a hell of a car for that money

[sly elk]

nice porsche money

[dire viper]

It was more than entry lambo money

[sly elk]

right

that's kinda my point

[dire viper]

Entry lambos back then were like 150

[sly elk]

mercedes has to be selling something the other companies aren't

i guess that you could go to a beverly hills dealer and they already have one of these in stock?

ready to drive home?

instead of ordering and waiting 6mo-1yr?

idk

[dire viper]

The reason you’d buy one is cause autobahn, which is why cars like that don’t really exist anymore. US makes up so much for car sales that you have to make an insanely adequate car in that segment to get people to buy enough of them in Europe to justify its production

[sly elk]

or does mercedes give a free handjob wth purchase

[dire viper]

Because if the over 100k car doesn’t sell well in the US it probably won’t last long

[dire viper]

The image

[sly elk]

that's unfortunate

because we already know there's only 1 kind of mercedes that sells in the US

[dire viper]

Eh

The C and E class are doing well

Sedans still do well with older ppl

[dire viper]

But also SUV’s eat more of the segment year after year

[dire viper]

I’d rather drive an E class than that

[sly elk]

^ tbh

the GLB has kinda taken over as generic old people car here

[dire viper]

Damn. 26k miles????

[sly elk]

impressive

it was used to go to church bingo two days a week

for sure

shit they got me beat lol

[dire viper]

Yea

Honestly

[sly elk]

my jeep is like 5.5 years old and has like 11,600 miles on it

[dire viper]

If I had the money rn I would buy one

[sly elk]

that's 15 years old and barely has twice as many

how does it have so few

[dire viper]

Oh shit

[sly elk]

lol if you buy that it probably needs a lot in repairs

it probably sat for a few years or something

i don't hate the glb

the mercedes I don't like is the electric s class

it's not necessarily because of the design exactly but it's too small

it's not s class sized

[dire viper]

There was a performance package you could get on top of the CL63 AMG that made it absolutely slaughter the outgoing AMG’s. At this point the CL63 is just a badge and no longer the displacement of the engine, it’s a 5.5 liter unit instead of the N/A 6.2. But with the performance package it adds another 30hp for a total of 563 and another 200ft lbs of torque for a total of 664.

[sly elk]

but the design reminds me of a like 2008 civic

[dire viper]

So you turn the already fast CL63 into a fucking autobahn rocket ship

[dire viper]

EGG

Bad egg tho

Those suck so bad

[dire viper]

Car designed to produce recalls at an alarming rate

[sly elk]

LOL

the thing that i find interesting about it

i always felt like the people who worked on this went to work at mercedes

[dire viper]

Jesus

I think Mercedes is just smoking crack

[sly elk]

after seeing the new what was it CLA?

[dire viper]

The CLA is super egg shaped

It’s not a terrible looking car nor a bad one

The unfortunate thing is the AMG model has lots of overheating issues

[sly elk]

this ^

[dire viper]

So the cheap sporty car you can’t drive hard for 15 minutes

[sly elk]

this is when I figured out mercedes was smoking crack

i swear i've seen a generic boombox at frys electronics with that design language before

or you know

those 4ft tall bluetooth jukebox thingies

[dire viper]

This is the CLA

I’m assuming you posted a new EQ or something

[sly elk]

https://www.jalopnik.com/1810225/2026-mercedes-benz-cla-ev-revealed/

i do like that steering wheel

lol it kinda reminds me of the one in my jeep

[dire viper]

Oh new CLA EV

Stinky

The CLA wishes it only had 2 doors

Rear head space is bad cause of the coupe roof line

[sly elk]

i've been in a cla before

randomly had a CLA on uber many years ago

i think the make or break is whether it has a sunroof

ih my

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/1jcvs3p/rate_my_udr7_setup/

[wraith agate]

Wtf do you mean no free shipping on big speaker

This is an outrage

[sly elk]

lol

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/news/631053/microsoft-windows-11-update-uninstall-copilot

[sharp star]

"Tech company accidentally improves their product"

[sharp harbor]

"the app can easily be reinstalled though"
but do you want to though

[dire viper]

Wow Toyota dealers offering discounts without bargaining, the economy really is dying 😭

[sharp star]

econony…

[dire viper]

Yes

This is good because that means used cars will plummet or sit unsold for years

And most people can’t afford to wait years to sell a car

Holy crap

Tbf 80k miles in just a few years? They bought it, drove its wheels off under warranty, then selling it

[sly elk]

i'll believe it when I see rav4 primes and siennas with factory rebates

[dire viper]

What rebates /s

@potent arrow stock 84 RX-7

Nope

It’s kind of odd but cars are insanely cheap to manufacture at scale

Toyota is even cheaper cause every car uses the same shit just different configurations

No bespoke stuff really among the cars

And the models that sell well they build in the US/Mexico/Canada

Tariffs got delayed also I believe

Cause it would kill the new car market over night basically

[sly elk]

man I haven't seen one of those in a long long time

[dire viper]

4200 is a steal

Its stock, no mods