technology-discussion

[hazy frost]

7600x3d exists too

Yeah that’s literally all it is being worse binned 5800x3ds after production stopped

It’s within a couple % of the 5800x3d and they had good stock of it

And now it’s at a point where moving to am5 gives u a similar performance with the entry level CPUs on there so it didn’t make much sense to sell a 5800x3d

With the exception of games that rly want the cache like MSFS or tarkov iirc

[odd sand]

Because they need to buy wafer allocations a year+ in advance, and at a certain point it would be directly taking allocation from the next gen release, which they aren't going to do. They could do that if they weren't wholly dependent on TSMC at this point, because I'm not sure they even rely on GloFo much anymore despite that being spun off them.

Also, AMD has a long history of making efficient use of their wafer allocations by stockpiling lesser binned chips to release as lower SKUs. eg: The 3-core CPUs around 2008 which were 4-core rejects with 1 bad core disabled.

[solid panther]

Im not sure we'll ever have a huge leap in performance in the GPU space ever again, barring like revolutionary tech development. Thats why I think people getting excited over the next generation of GPU each cycle is a little silly

There's like a 95% chance it'll be a marginal increase over the last gen

The improvements you want to look out for are software primarily, and maybe power draw?

And price to performance

[hazy frost]

That’s not from the fact it’s impossible it’s from companies being lazy

[solid panther]

Well yes and no

[hazy frost]

Just yes..

[solid panther]

No

[hazy frost]

Literally is tho

[solid panther]

Its because you cant just strap on double everything and go yay

its twice as powerful

Thats not how tech works lmao

[hazy frost]

No way…

I didn’t know that

[solid panther]

Cool it with the sarcasm

[odd sand]

There is a bit of a poker hand mentality in not wanting to reveal their entire hand all at once, but it's not always simply bc of greed, it's also to manage risk in case some of their cutting edge R&D hits delays.

[hazy frost]

Cool it with the passive aggressive explanations then

[solid panther]

Im not asking you to cool it

Im telling you, as a moderator

to chill out

Its ridiculous to get this pressed over a conversation

[hazy frost]

Moderators have lower standards than everyone else?

[odd sand]

That said, I do feel like it's to simply squeeze more out of the R&D most of the time, but at least some of it is to make sure they're not stuck for 5 years with nothing to show

[solid panther]

I mean the issue in my head is partially greed, almost certainly

The cost is easily a response to that

I remember when a grand was like

Very top tier

Titan level card

[hazy frost]

Nvidia released an entire generation of GPUs that are worse than what they could for the last 2 generations just bc they can still sell them

[solid panther]

You wouldnt get better than that

But at the same time, the reason we dont have massive leaps in hardware isnt because people are lazy

Smart people are still smart, it's just that tech doesnt work that way

[odd sand]

Historically speaking, the average uplift gen-over-gen that consumers considered "average" and worthwhile was 30% but there have been a few times in the past it was as low as 15%

[dire viper]

The anti trust investigation by both the US and China against NVIDIA is amusing

[solid panther]

In the case of nvidia they're trying to make up the difference with software improvements

[dire viper]

Being fucked by their two largest markets

[hazy frost]

Smart people are still smart yes and companies have realised they can release subpar products from what they’re capable of with software feature slop and people will eat it up anyway

[solid panther]

Except the software isnt slop

It is actually useful

[hazy frost]

Smart people have nothing to do with it

It’s corporate decisions that cause issues not the intelligence of engineers

[solid panther]

You dont want them to just give up on shit like DLSS or frame gen, you want them to keep improving that but also slap in hardware improvements too

Software in theory should make the hardware last longer

which is better for the consumer

[hazy frost]

Problem is they don’t need to do anything hardware related anymore because they can sell same thing new AI slop tho

So it’s not happening anymore

[odd sand]

The 90 series cards are their own outliers bc they're simply throwing way more cores onto the cards rather than making better cards. 3090 was like 50-60% faster than the 3080 I think? Then the 4090 was like 70% and you look at the number of CUDA cores on them etc. and it's obvious why that is the case

[solid panther]

I mean I dont believe we'll never see another leap again, I just think we're stuck in a cycle at the moment for a number of reasons

[hazy frost]

They’re just a Titan replacement with a new name anyway I understand that part

The mid range is being intentionally cut down tho

[odd sand]

It's not that they don't need to, it's that they want to use the wafer allocation for AI cards bc they make $32k from them instead of $2k

[solid panther]

Greed is certainly one factor but I do think they're also just struggling to make any notable hardware improvements.

[odd sand]

Yes, but the Titan was never seen as part of the consumer GPU stack in the past, whereas the 90 series is

[hazy frost]

They’re not struggling bc they have made them but choose to not utilise it fully consistently

[hazy frost]

Yes but that’s simply to sell more gpu

They’re serving the same purpose

Hell the Titan XP was already like $1300 back then

The RTX titan was closer to 3k

Starts to make the 3090ti and 4090 look like half decent deals

[odd sand]

I think it's their "olive leaf" to justify being in consumer GPUs atm is by having overspecced cards with crazy high margins to offset the "lost profits" from using wafers on consumer cards

[hazy frost]

It is insane

Memory bus on 40 series limiting ray tracing performance by massive amounts when it’s a key selling point of Nvidia cards was funny

[odd sand]

Clearly the smoke and mirrors are out of steam and dissippating with consumers with the 50 series though, as the real-world perf is showing them as equal or barely ahead of last gen

[hazy frost]

Yes

50 series didn’t have to be bad either

[solid panther]

It's more complex than just greed, because the world isnt black and white, but I do think a big part of the software focus is because Nvidia isnt really a gaming focused brand anymore

They're a datacentre brand

[hazy frost]

holding out hope for UDNA atp

[solid panther]

i think nvidia makes like

[hazy frost]

AMD is becoming a data centre brand as well

[odd sand]

A related issue is from the game industry side where companies are leaning on DLSS as a crutch to not have to optimize their games and also UE5 simply being a big resource hog without proper optimization. So it's a double whammy.

[solid panther]

10% of their money on gaming

lmfao

less

[hazy frost]

CDNA makes AMD a lot of money rn

[solid panther]

I cant remember who said it but I agree with the idea that I wish nvidia would spin off Geforce as its own brand

[odd sand]

Sure, but that's only bc all of their market cap growth the last 5 years was from AI

[hazy frost]

More than half of profit from GPUs for AMD was data centre in 2024

Or CDNA overall

[solid panther]

Its also why I hoped/hope Intel can keep improving their GPUs

Need more competition

[hazy frost]

But atl they’re releasing something half decent for gaming market

Despite it being like 15-20% of revenue

[odd sand]

The real danger at this point is both Nvidia and AMD both leaning full force into datacenter and consumers basically having no good options because there aren't enough fabs and the money's in enterprise

[hazy frost]

I think if AMD did want to do that UDNA wouldn’t be smth they intended to do

There’s no point in doing it rather than focusing more resources on DC really

[odd sand]

That said -- GPU R&D could end tomorrow and the gaming industry would be fine. Set reasonable perf targets and work with the compute you have and games look great as it is.

[solid panther]

More fabs are getting built at the moment arent they? Problem being it takes fucking years

not just to build, but to staff and get producing

[odd sand]

The problem is them putting out new gens the same as last gen and demanding not even the same money, but often MORE money

[hazy frost]

5070ti being a 4070ti super except free missing rops and $500 more

[odd sand]

And the fabs being built aren't even cutting edge, they're already a 1 gen old process and won't be running for several more years.

[solid panther]

I do actually think the software approach from nvidia is a good thing, but only if there's also improvements in the actual hardware space too. Cause, again, the idea would be that the software can make the hardware last longer

In practise though, the hardware isnt budging much

if at all

[odd sand]

And game studios continuing to push more and more graphics while optimizing less and less and expecting AI bullshit to duplicate frames so the fps number says 300 and they can act like it's amazing

[solid panther]

That too

It's not all on the GPU manufacturer

Part of it is game devs/publishers leaning on software

[odd sand]

The fatal flaw is the software only works well when you don't really need the frames in the first place.

[solid panther]

like nah we dont need to make this game run well

[hazy frost]

Tbf games are coming out looking worse than a couple years ago and running worse too anyway

[solid panther]

dlss will handle it

lmao

[sharp star]

I think upscaling tech is a good thing in a vacuum

[odd sand]

Because UE5 demands more optimization than UE4 but they're doing less

[solid panther]

Framegen, yes. FG is only worth it if you're already pulling at least 60 as a floor.

But DLSS is solid

[odd sand]

I haven't seen DLSS4 in action, but everything until now has been underwhelming

[sharp star]

Unfortunately devs have been so reliant on them and frame gen that they’re using them to mask poorly optimized games (and poorly too)

[hazy frost]

Even when UE4 came out this happened but yeah it’s even worse lmao

[odd sand]

Any fine details like grates or chainmail mesh armors etc. looks like a scuffed mess when you turn on DLSS

[hazy frost]

It’s insane they want u to rely on it but then also have terrible frame gen implementation as well

So it’s not even usable

[odd sand]

God help you if you're dealing with stuff like fog or godrays etc.

[sharp star]

I think we should kill frame gen

[solid panther]

But again, I'm not a doomer on the matter on the tech space. I do think we'll eventually get another solid hardware jump, I just think they'll be spaced way further apart because the companies know they can squeeze more out of every release.

[hazy frost]

Depends what the render resolution is

At 1440p ultra quality DLSS ur rendering close to 1080p anyway

Which looks a LOT better than 1080p performance rendering at like 540p

I don’t ever use anything below quality and DLSS 4 is a noticeable improvement over 3 imo

[odd sand]

And spacing them further apart would be fine if the companies weren't trying to force a new gen every 2 years still and trying to blow smoke up our asses that it's 30% more hoopwanks faster in gigakleenex simulations than the last gen, then we see the raster perf and it's ass

[hazy frost]

FSR 4 is also a noticeable improvement over DLSS 3 tho

[solid panther]

I'm picky when it comes to image quality, but yeah DLSS4 is a solid improvement. I run 1440p and even just slapping it on quality looks near native in some areas

and you get a nice frame boost

[odd sand]

Sure, but at those settings on 1440p you're also only seeing an absolute framerate increase of what? 10fps maybe?

[solid panther]

The only time i've ever turned FG on is if i'm already getting good frames

Nah

DLSS quality still nets you a decent jump

I think in most cases I've seen like

[odd sand]

At least if your game name isn't Wilds?

[solid panther]

I dunno, I think the lowest jump I've seen was like 15 or so

[hazy frost]

It’s not a discrete number it’ll depend on what u were getting already what the uplift it

[odd sand]

DLAA vs DLSS quality I saw an avg fps gain of like .5fps

[hazy frost]

DLSS quality I got an extra 20fps in cyberpunk from like 40 to 60 with path tracing on

[solid panther]

That means there's probably some other bottleneck lmao

If turning DLSS on gets you less than a frame improvement then something is wrong lmfao

[odd sand]

At anyrate, it's idiotic for them to spend time and money making graphics so amazing you can't run them without enabling DLSS which then reduces the quality

[hazy frost]

DLSS looks better than some TAA implementations atp lol

FSR 4 does too

FSR 3 definitely didn’t

[solid panther]

Im tired of the never ending march for more realistic images

[odd sand]

They're better off making more reasonable graphics and finishing the game with a lower budget in faster time

[solid panther]

Id rather more complexity

[dire viper]

Style over substance

[solid panther]

Like I love how complex every scene in Cyberpunk is

[odd sand]

These 7-8 year release timetables for AAA games are stupid. 5 is already a stretch

[hazy frost]

Cyberpunk is my favourite example anyway it’s one of the best looking games in decades and it runs better than stuff coming out more recently

But still looks better

[solid panther]

Well it runs better now

[odd sand]

Especially when the hit/miss ratio isn't any better for it. So it just guarantees you bleed staff and that 1 miss game means you close the studio bc nobody who matters is left anymore

[solid panther]

But yeah

Cyberpunk now is like, still one of the best looking games out there

[hazy frost]

CDPR finally getting the hang of red engine only to switch to UE5

[solid panther]

But thats the case with a lot of CDPR games

Witcher 3 still looks very good

Granted it did get improvements in the last couple years

[hazy frost]

I think cyberpunk will be one of the best looking games for a long time

[odd sand]

That's the rub with the RED engine: If it takes 3 years to optimize, that's not tenable from a production POV

[hazy frost]

Ray tracing in red engine was just really good lol

And I doubt anyone’s gonna bother to make something as good that runs properly on UE5 for a while

[solid panther]

I think Cyberpunk looks good not because of like texture quality or even ray tracing, though those are great, but I think scene complexity is the key

Its the same reason I like how Horizon looks

[hazy frost]

Cyberpunk has a good art direction as well

[solid panther]

The natural scenes look very complex

Id rather than then like

[hazy frost]

The biggest thing for games imo is ray reconstruction anyway

[solid panther]

ultra realistic empty hallways

[hazy frost]

I’ve noticed that way more than anything else

It added a lot of depth into cyberpunk to the point RT + RR looks better than just PT

[solid panther]

Im trying to think, what other games impressed me visually lately

[hazy frost]

Not enough games have it anyway

[solid panther]

Alan Wake had some fantastic scenes

[hazy frost]

Wilds occasionally impresses me atm but either they have some questionable art style decisions or there’s something very wrong with lighting in some conditions

[solid panther]

Kingdom Come 2 in terms of performance to visual quality is pretty nice

Wilds has weird lighting yeah

[hazy frost]

There’s a lot of grey blending into each other in certain weather

Rain in the forest looks awful

[odd sand]

I dunno if it's among the best, but I was really digging the RT being enabled in Darktide during blackout maps etc.

[hazy frost]

Everything blends

[solid panther]

Darktide does that thing I mentioned earlier

complex scenes

[hazy frost]

FH5 is a game that still impresses me with how good it looks and how well it runs ngl

[odd sand]

A lot of people hated the blackout maps bc they couldn't see, but like that was what made it really fun

You could sneak past enemies, turning your flashlight on/off as needed etc.

[solid panther]

Maybe not like

peak visuals

but I really like how Helldivers 2 looks

[odd sand]

Putting your flashlight across foggy rooms etc.

[hazy frost]

The fact this game runs at 120+ fps native with ultra RT and everything on is fun to think about

[solid panther]

Given the ridiculous engine its on

[hazy frost]

Meanwhile I can barely get 70 in wilds with upscaling

[odd sand]

It helps that the geometry is very simple and the terrain isn't super complex either

[solid panther]

Speaking of Cyberpunk though, I actually think there's a very good chance GTA6 cities wont look nearly as good as Night City in terms of complexity

But who knows

[hazy frost]

Probably not

[odd sand]

Gives them more headroom for unit count and VFX

[hazy frost]

Though tbf the phantom liberty areas do run like crap compared to base game

Next gen console exclusively in mind lol

[solid panther]

Oh uh

Death Stranding 2

[hazy frost]

They didn’t care about the ps4 anymore

[solid panther]

Looked stunning

but Id wanna see it like

playing on my screen

lmao

[odd sand]

Probably not, simply bc GTA is now a vector for shark card sales/online funnel. So they're going to want to sell 150M copies again, and you can only do that when the game can run on a toaster.

[solid panther]

Yeah I mean I know GTA6 will probably look pretty good

But it wont be top of the line

[hazy frost]

Ghost of Tsushima still looks really good

With the pc port

[solid panther]

Yeah. I think a big part of why I liked GoT is its colours too

[hazy frost]

Wouldn’t be hard to have it run on a toaster but have better quality settings available but I doubt they will bc it’s not a selling point of the game

People don’t rly want much more than 5 already had

[solid panther]

Plus GTA6 is not on PC at launch, im assuming

[hazy frost]

Yes

[solid panther]

Figure they'll pull the triple dip shit again

[hazy frost]

It’s console only at launch

[solid panther]

Console only, then PC a year later

then next gen console

[hazy frost]

Although ps5 pro is out now at least

If not next gen

So there’s a slightly higher target than otherwise

[solid panther]

Yeah I might finally get a PS5 pro if the upgrade is noticeable

[hazy frost]

The potential for better looking games is definitely real

No cpu upgrade might be a limiting factor for it in games like GTA 6 still tho

[solid panther]

I'll be real annoyed if I buy a PS5 pro and the PS6 gets announced though

[hazy frost]

Probably will by the time GTA 6 is out

But then scalping ensues for atl like 3 months

[solid panther]

Lmao 3 months if you're in the US or something

It'll be like 6 months in Aus

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s not great in the UK

I didn’t ever get a ps5

Knowing future FF releases aren’t PS exclusives kind of killed any reason I had to buy it anyway

Console has like no exclusives besides GT and GoW now

And they’ll be on pc a couple years later for GoW anyway

[solid panther]

I got extremely lucky because I know a guy who knows a guy

But even then it took like

4 months

But yeah I only own a PS5 for exclusives

Same reason I own a Switch

Oh and sometimes I'll buy a game twice

[hazy frost]

Yeah I got a switch for it but like that still has some games atl

[solid panther]

Like I have BG3 on console and PC

so I can play my save on the big TV sometimes

[hazy frost]

I do want the switch 2 but I also know that OLED refresh is coming

[solid panther]

I dont think I can hold off for the Switch 2 OLED

Im assuming it'll be years out

[hazy frost]

Same

But I’m hoping that games still run on the switch half decently

Otherwise not much choice lol

Based on a few recent releases i don’t have much hope

[solid panther]

Desperate for the Switch 2 to not have 35 year old hardware and run games at 320p

[sharp star]

Yeah I like Gunpei Yokoi’s philosophy about using older, more mature tech over cutting edge stuff but it doesn’t really hold up lmao

[solid panther]

Oh i agree with it in a general sense, I just dont want them to use hardware thats so fucking old that it cant even run at 720p

Listen

I just want Xenoblade to not look like mush

If they can achieve that, Im happy

[hazy frost]

It’s supposedly actually quite good hardware

It has to be to stick around another decade

I would like the handheld display to be a slightly higher resolution but I know it’ll probably be 720p again

But it should atl output above 1080 when docked (I hope)

[dull garnet]

too bad they killed him

[sharp star]

yeah

[dull garnet]

personally i played 110 hours of pokemon scarlet so i can accept bad performance. i play old games on old consoles and they often run like shit there too. its not an excuse but its nothing new

if a Switch 2 has some kind of meaningful performance increase via bc, even if it just means achieving frame targets, that'll be enough to justify a day 1 purchase for me

[hazy frost]

I played 100 or so of Violet iirc and the performance was pretty awful as much as I enjoyed the game anyway

It makes me concerned for how the next game may run with the switch 2 being out

[old jetty]

I mean, it is the year 2025

Games should run at 60 FPS at least

Stable ones none the less

[hazy frost]

Ideally yeah

iirc switch 2 hardware actually supports DLSS anyway

And I am not mad bc all current gen consoles use upscaling for output anyway

DLSS letting it play 4K 30-60fps when docked would be awesome

[pliant iris]

Yeah!

My first gpu

[odd sand]

Not a brick stuffed in the box, always a good first sign /s

[dull garnet]

Good gpu to have as your first

[sly elk]

congrats! fancy looking

good ole xfx

[hazy frost]

6800xt is still great too

Aged well partially due to the 7800xt being mediocre but either way it’s nice lol

[hot shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-on-smoke-cpu-blasts-potato-pc-gif-24592403

this reminds me of you @potent arrow

[potent arrow]

LOL

[sly elk]

AMD Builds gone wrong

or 50 series nvidia cards

that's more flames and less smoke though

[dire viper]

What a weird fucking shop tho

The little silo/hopper in the back looks like a gunpowder one

Or it’s just a shop vac

Probably a shop vac seeing the tubes

[sly elk]

i wanna joke about ya know

things

so

[dire viper]

LIKE WHAT

[sharp star]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[golden stream]

Uhhhh I need some sanity check before I buy
Mostly about the case choice though, which is better?
https://deepcool.com/products/Cases/CH160-Mesh-WH-Portable-High-Airflow-mini-ITX-Case/2024/19463.shtml
https://deepcool.com/products/Cases/CH170-DIGITAL-M-ITX-Case-with-Screen/2024/18891.shtml
Quick graph breakdown

[sharp star]

I think you can make do with CH160

I have an Antec Flux Pro and I don't even use the digital display lmao

[golden stream]

Oh, mostly I aim for the horizontal is bc of the limited space in my room atm, but unsure if flip to horizontal would it affect by vibration or nah

Plan to get an HDD for archiving stuff

[sharp star]

mmm probably not(?)

[golden stream]

And those are p cheap-ish in my place atm

[sharp star]

As long as it has some rubber dampeners then it should be okay

[golden stream]

Lemme check the manual, if the feet can be reoriented it should be fine

[potent arrow]

I didn't think you could buy deepcool in the states anymore

[sharp star]

You can't. They're in SEA.

[potent arrow]

[sharp star]

America moment

[potent arrow]

and you should be fine even without rubber dampeners lol

[golden stream]

Ok painpeko, feet is fixed
So flip to horizontal should be fine IF no HDD

[potent arrow]

viyyy idk if it's an option

[golden stream]

I was about to summon u

[potent arrow]

but thermal take cases have a lot of Horizontal options

same as bequiet

[golden stream]

Lemme have a look of Thermaltake

The issue is, bequiet iirc aims at EU/europe market, rarely see bequiet product in here tho

[potent arrow]

yaaaa

[golden stream]

They do have some really neat stuff, their fan can be kinda Noctua alternative

If not for Arctic be cheaper

[potent arrow]

I like their silent wings better then chromas ngl

full disclosure, I'm a bequiet shill

they've given me a lot of stuff for my business lol

[golden stream]

And their stuff is pretty ok

Sad that their SFX PSU is non-modular, if I remember correctly

[potent arrow]

should be modular

I have an SFX L from them somewhere

[golden stream]

WAAAAAIT

Thermaltake has new colors??

[potent arrow]

mhmmm

[golden stream]

The baby blue and matcha are p cute

[potent arrow]

their new tr line is queer coded

I love it

[golden stream]

HOLY the price is double the Deepcool ones

But still pretty cases and pretty colors

[potent arrow]

I'm wondering if it's because deepcool ain't in NA no more that they focus on your side of the world

[golden stream]

Possibly, deepcool stuff is quite affordable, on par with Vrtra cases and such

Unsure if for EU/europe tho

[potent arrow]

kinda a shame

their coolers were so good

AK series was a h212 killer for me

[sharp star]

People really need to let go of the H212

[golden stream]

Deepcool 212 innit

[potent arrow]

the 212 is dead I hope

I just keep finding systems in my shop with them

my hands have enough

[golden stream]

It was one of the most cost-effective ones on the market

[sharp star]

"Somehow, the 212 has returned"

[golden stream]

Until the sanction that was

[potent arrow]

it is the goat cooler

just let it fucking die

[golden stream]

only in ze US

[sharp star]

the 212 is Cooler Master lmao

[potent arrow]

these guys AK line

I had so many in stock

basically every system I built minis high end got one

[sharp star]

ID-Cooling's stuff is largely out of stock for me over here

Especially the A720

[golden stream]

It's like the h212 refresh tho

But HIGH END GOT ONE, REALLY

The cheapest AK one is like $30 here and that was already somehow slightly expensive

[potent arrow]

reminds me

this Corsair AIO in my new pc

piece of shit

lmaoooo

FUCK

[golden stream]

Which one tho so I can avoid

[potent arrow]

the one time I go air cooling
doesn't fit
need PC to work so I drive to my supplier and ask for a freebie
gave me one and against my better judgement I installed it

that

[golden stream]

Oh ye air cooling height limit

[potent arrow]

mother fucker

I never go air-cooling for my personal builds

[golden stream]

Wait, l12s ain't fit, really?

[sharp star]

...What's the CPU cooler height clearance for that case?

[potent arrow]

never

I step out of line ONCE

clearly not enough lol

[golden stream]

SFF painge

[sharp star]

Yeah

SFF is pain

I used to work exclusively with SFF

[potent arrow]

SFF is the only acceptable size for me

[golden stream]

I am in pain lol

[sharp star]

But now that I'm pretty much rooted in one place I can go full tower

[potent arrow]

I refuse anything else

[golden stream]

Perk of working with SFF: plan everything include cable management
Cons of working with SFF: painpeko

[potent arrow]

my fucking gpu is the slimmest 4080s you can get

and it's lorge

[golden stream]

Anything decent of 4000 is beeg as bahamut tho

https://tenor.com/view/rtx-4090-drop-motherboard-painful-gif-26787922

[potent arrow]

"Planned"

[sharp star]

I'm thinking of getting a LF3 for my sister because SEA is a fucking hellscape

[potent arrow]

ram it it
slaps it
"It ain't going NOWHERE"

[golden stream]

upcoming hell DLC

It will be HELL

It's already the wet hell in my place

Soon the hot hell

[sharp star]

I got one in Singapore because of weather conditions lmao

[potent arrow]

my friend is Vietnam south coast and basically lives in a hut

his pc is an open workbench

I've never seen so much corrosion from humidity lol

[golden stream]

Viet here, can confirm LOL

The northen is even WORSE

Mostly bc we have a whole month of ~99% humidity and hotpot season

[potent arrow]

oh god I didn't realize you were a Viet too >_>

[golden stream]

We ain't know each other until we lahee

[potent arrow]

I'm Canadian born but my parents are boat people lol

[golden stream]

Eh that's fine, peep here nowaday are p chill

BUT NOT FOR PC PART PRICE

It's still pain u_u

[potent arrow]

that's just sea

[golden stream]

Yeeee

[potent arrow]

y'all aretech purgatory

[golden stream]

It's purgatory ngl

Jank shiet, you can see sometime, at least not that much in my place

Prob more in PH

[potent arrow]

you can go into a pho place and walk out with an unbranded dell OEM 40 series card at this point

[golden stream]

a lot

Some OEM stuff you can buy directly from certain vendors if you know how to nav, or if you ask them

[potent arrow]

[golden stream]

Mostly prebuilt or ripped

[potent arrow]

tech is expensive here

I wonder what my rig would cost in Vietnam

[golden stream]

+50%-ish or so

Then * with 25000

Yup

[potent arrow]

4080s pro art would be insane

[golden stream]

Eh lemme check the price, I still have the vendor website on

[potent arrow]

mine as half the price of my rig

2300$? iirc

on fucking FB marketplace

[golden stream]

$1024 included tax

New btw

[potent arrow]

it's cheaper in vietnam T-T

[golden stream]

IDK HOW

[potent arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/108686075781726208/1349017298027151441/tumblr_7e321d07d5d956402fd6641dae3b76ff_d4ea261f_400.gif

[golden stream]

Oh wait it was on sale pice

$1600 if OG price

USD btw

[potent arrow]

[golden stream]

And that's from the vendor who ain't cut that much fee

Others may be more expensive

And ye it's sold out

[potent arrow]

painge

oooo my kB kit is coming...

[golden stream]

Ayyyyyy

[potent arrow]

corne v3

one of these will be chosen..

[golden stream]

NICE

Well SEA has access to uh, jank switches

But then again, it's harder to navigate

Clicky switches are hella popular SOMEHOW and I hate those

[potent arrow]

I would like some cursed sea tactiles...

[golden stream]

Not really SEA, we just import those from CN

Lotta cursed ones

Something something like this

Actually they've been remove quite some of them already

[potent arrow]

ooo

I shop on milk tooth

[golden stream]

Oh

You can have a look at lazada or shopee (those are SEA's amazon, same mother company anyway lol)

[potent arrow]

oooo ok ok

https://milktooth.com

oooo it's really Christmas

my headphone amp is showing up too

[golden stream]

LMAO IT HAS MORE JANK STUFF OVER HERE

[potent arrow]

oh god

[golden stream]

Dem niceeee

[potent arrow]

I need a new DAC too but eh

[golden stream]

Can just ebay and see any peep passing their gears

Or the (in)famous Apple dongle

[potent arrow]

nah I want something nice

[golden stream]

Schiit?

[potent arrow]

got gifted the EL amp II

schiit hit the shit fan recently

[golden stream]

That's ouch

Bc I saw Magni Modo stack p popular

Unless if you want chifi shenanigan

[potent arrow]

probably look at a fiio k11

[hot shadow]

dang everytime i go to milktooth im like look at all dem forbidden taffy

2yo activated, swallow all candy

[golden stream]

Oh fiio is decent
Better qc than moondrop tho

[potent arrow]

yep

eehhhh got another atom Dac ii lol

[golden stream]

Lmao

[potent arrow]

trusty

[dull garnet]

I'd buy another topping product, my dx3 pro has been rock solid

[dire viper]

Freaky ass name and freaky ass switches

[sharp star]

Designed for freaky ass people like you and me

[golden stream]

Switches do be like that freaky tho

[dull garnet]

okay, I'm back looking at PSUs. this NZXT C1000 (2024) looks promising for the money. the Silverstone seemed promising but a 5 year warranty doesn't feel great

[hazy frost]

Yeah I would expect 10 if ur paying >£100 for supposedly high end models usually

[dull garnet]

even their titanium models are 5

bit weird, dunno

[hazy frost]

Most of the other gold and above higher end psus come with 10 or are a lot cheaper if they’re a 5 year one

[dull garnet]

I wondered if its something to do with Japanese warranty standards or something but maybe I'm reading into it too much

[potent arrow]

now I need a good dac

[odd sand]

Either way, Silverstone (usually) makes good stuff so I wouldn't worry about it too much. If it survives 5 years it's likely to survive a lot more.

[dull garnet]

I considered that too yeah

Japanese company 😍

[dire viper]

The engineering cost is just actually reflected in the product

[odd sand]

There's like 2 breakpoints: Fail immediately/first few weeks, then fail in the first 12-18 months. Beyond that you would need a crazy good materials department to get the quality just right to fail at like 5.5-6 years

[dire viper]

It’s why seasonic shit got a premium, they actually tack on the price to continually engineer and improve their products

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/news/628539/intel-new-ceo-lip-bu-tan-pat-gelsinger

[dire viper]

My EVGA is still kicking and it’s been longer than 5 years

[dull garnet]

I actually want a Super Flower Leadex VII but they're not available in the UK

[dire viper]

But it’s a Seasonic unit

[odd sand]

Another engineer, or back to MBAs that will faceplant the company?

[dire viper]

So I expect it to maybe die in another 2-3 years

[dull garnet]

on my 9th year with my EVGA 650 P2 (Super Flower Leadex OEM)

[odd sand]

I got like 10 years out of some chinesium brand called Tagan from 2008-2018

[dull garnet]

holy fuck i remember tagan

[odd sand]

700W Tagan with leds on all the cable connectors and the fan in 2008. Wasn't RGB per se but it was R G and B lights mixed on all the inputs heh

Bag of Jolly Ranchers in my case

[dull garnet]

hell yeah

[dire viper]

Awful

[odd sand]

Yep that one

Screw-on cables -- they weren't going to be yanked out or not properly inserted heh

[dull garnet]

you do want an 1100W PSU in 2006, right?

[dire viper]

They need to make PSU scented air freshener

[dull garnet]

I remember reading a test in Custom PC magazine that this basically just overheated and died on them lol

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/adar-elmo-fire-sam-hazeldine-fire-elmo-adar-gif-7343221212174759572

The reviews on the one I bought said they had a 50% failure rate in the first year. Apparently I got a winner tho bc it was over 9 years before caps started popping.

[dull garnet]

the SilverStone OEM is Highpower apparently hmm

[odd sand]

I think I was at like 9.5 years and I heard one pop and I just kinda ignored it for awhile then like 2 months after that 2 more popped back to back and I shut the thing down and ordered a new PSU immediately hehe

weeeeeEEEEEEEPEWWW

[potent arrow]

my first pc had a HP Pavilion desktop PSU in it

[odd sand]

Made pew pew sounds like you would pretend to have a scifi laser gun

[potent arrow]

highschool me repinned it to fit standard ATX and holy by god I'm surprised it didn't kill me

free 750w PSU tho

iirc I had to wire it in a way where it was tied to the front panel button so it jumped the psu

so sometimes the timing was off

so I just spammed the front button untill I saw boot

[odd sand]

I'm more surprised HP actually had a 750w in them. All the ones I was aware of had the bare min in them. One AIO had a 230w in it when the average at the time was 450-500

[dull garnet]

I remember people janking two PSUs together on overclock.net

like a dedicated video card psu

[potent arrow]

jesus

[potent arrow]

yeah it was one the school had so I assume it was for video processing or something, these were donated to the school

[odd sand]

That Tagan PSU was also quad rail, so I had to make sure I spread the GPU aux over multiple rails lol

[potent arrow]

but the school phased them out so I got my grubby hands on it

[odd sand]

Think DDR6 will be available by next year?

[dull garnet]

https://ms.codes/blogs/computer-hardware/powering-a-graphics-card-with-a-separate-psu-1 hehe

[potent arrow]

maybe

will it be stable tho?

[dire viper]

Unstable and 300% mark up

[dull garnet]

CL100

[sly elk]

i haven't kept a diy build going long enough to worry about a psu being too worn out

i don't think i'd buy an evga psu again

my g2 was in a tower that fell off a table, and then a heatsink or something fell off an jammed up the fan

the g3 couldn't handle my 9700k+3080ti and led to a lot of crashing even at idle

[dull garnet]

I don't think evga made new models

Could be wrong but I couldn't see any atx 3.1 ones

[hazy frost]

They don’t afaik

They still sell the dated but high quality stuff tho iirc

The titanium line ones are still great even if u get them used tbh

The T2

[sly elk]

i'm good with my corsair cwt crap 😄

[hazy frost]

lol

I have a 10 year warranty

Well 8 left now

[hot shadow]

the one summer I was joking about my PC temps being fine and then 5 min later it fucking went BZZZZTTTT ZAP with smoke

PSU died and it fried the mobo

wasn't temps but lol

[golden stream]

Funny is
Yeston GPU waifus are scented
But iirc PSU scented may cause issue considering scented stuff are fat-based stuff

Also
Steve stahp roasting it's already turned to crisps
https://youtu.be/h4w_aObRzCc

[hot shadow]

man I don't even like scented checkbook

scented GPU is gonna raise allergies

[sly elk]

https://yestonstore.com/collections/rx-9000-series IDK when they officially listed them in the store BUT THEY ALREADY SOLD OUT ;_;

I wonder how they add the perfume

are they stuffing a little piece of foam in there

or just spraying the plastic lol

i don't think i wanna pay 900 bucks for a 9070xt

even if I thin kthose are cute

[golden stream]

Likely spray plastic

But that DOES show there's market for custom backpmate and shroud

Tho speaking of the xt, the kinda ONLY one be SFF enough is da Reaper card

[dull garnet]

ordered the C1000

I doubt the fan will even kick on with my setup

[gentle star]

There's at least 2-3 things that could be without further information

[potent arrow]

?

[inland mauve]

I love DaVinci Resolve for video editing, but it has this feature suit called Fusion that's amazing for creating all sorts of visual effects... and it runs like hot garbage when actually running the footage in the editor

it's such a shame because holy shit you can do so many cool things with it

but it just doesn't like rendering in real time

not even at preview lower quality settings

[odd sand]

Is the footage on SSD or HDD?

[dapper nymph]

I've just replace my psu and gpu, however, the power button's no longer working

lian li lancool one, x570 gaming plus, it took me several hours to figure out what did i fuck up and it turns out after replacing the psu, i somehow lost/disconnected the power button and i've got no clue where it is

i don't quite see a label on the cable

[odd sand]

It's going to be part of the bundle of leds

[dapper nymph]

currently, im booting up my pc with a screwdriver

[odd sand]

You need to consult the manual or squint at the corner of the board to read the wire diagram. The wire itself should say like PSW or Power SW on it or something for power switch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoPV0UcCQu0

[dapper nymph]

that thing should be from the case, for some reason, the led's still work so i've got no clue where the hell this loose cable is

[odd sand]

There is a positive and negative end you need to make sure they're put on the correct way or it won't work

They're all connected in a bundle usually so check that one isn't loose

Otherwise it's possible but unlikely the loose connection is on the button side on the case itself

[hot shadow]

im so glad mine comes with the lil plastic foolproof thing now

[dapper nymph]

i dont get it, when did it get lose, the hdd lights still work somehow

er

should i be fiddling with the pc still on

[odd sand]

They've always been fiddly and don't stick on there very well. All it takes is one little nudge

[sly walrus]

no

current don't fuck around

[sly elk]

my last two motherboards came with those and I never remember to use them lol

[odd sand]

Given it's the power switch, probably best to turn it off and flip the off switch on the PSU just to be safe since plugging that in might turn it off anyways

[dapper nymph]

brb, hopefully i dont need to use a screwdriver to boot up the next time im here

[odd sand]

The problem is sometimes that plastic foolproof thing holds them on even less well than the old way

[inland mauve]

it's all on SSDs, connected through DDR5 M.2

the storage is definitely not the bottleneck, it's a known issue with Fusion

according to the information I found, it's more of a workflow issue, the recommendation is to finish all other steps of the editing process before you start working on Fusion stuff, and to use pre-rendered test footage first

and also that Fusion when rendering within DaVinci is apparently restricted to a single core or something

meh I can work around it

[odd sand]

restricted to single core
oof

[dapper nymph]

i spent 7 hours figuring out why it was fucked

turns out, i didn't have a third cable to find

and i plugged the power cable into reset

[dull garnet]

lol

[lost python]

chat, what phone do i get. price doesnt matter.
i kinda narrowed it down so far to:
iphone 16 pro max: good platform that gets supported for a long time and good resell value. apple music with high quality. smaller battery than the others (but it might not matter since the apple chip is so efficient?)
google pixel 9 pro: camera is gud. i hate google and previous pixels though. actually why did i even consider this
nothing 3a pro: i love how it looks. its android and i can continue reading my korean toons. its relatively lowspec though compared to the others so idk how long it would be good for.

[hazy frost]

Current pixel is the best it’s ever been but the current tensor processor is still 4 generations behind apple and other android flagships

Battery on it is way better tho actually close to other flagships unlike the 8 was

[lost python]

yeah it and the nothing both have 5000+ mha batteries which is neat

[hazy frost]

iPhones still imo have the best video but pixel has the better photos and AI features are half decent for them

[hazy frost]

Yeah Apple one having a smaller battery doesn’t matter the 16 pro max is still beating out a lot of the flagship android ones with much bigger batteries

I have the 14 pro with the 3200mah battery and get 9-12 hours of screen on time from it

[lost python]

oh thats impressive

[hazy frost]

Unless I play games or smth

Then it starts to go down

[lost python]

i am still on my, now, 5 year old oneplus nord with 4300 and i have to charge it like 2-3 times a day, depending on how much i use it

[hazy frost]

If I’m just doing mixed YT discord and other social media I’ll get around 10

Gaming it’s like 2-4

Using it exclusively in camera mode about 3 as well that’ll drain it on any phone tho

[dull garnet]

i got a pixel 8 last november, no complaints

[hazy frost]

Personally i think if u don’t play games really on ur phone then the pixel is the best option

Battery life is still up there, best camera on a phone rn, the OS isn’t bloated by default

Processor is lacking but if u don’t need it for much then u won’t notice

[dull garnet]

had a 6 for 3 years before that

[hazy frost]

I had a pixel 6 for a while was awful lol

Things have gotten much better

There is also the fact Google is switching to tsmc for the pixel 10 tho..

So I’d consider waiting for an announcement on the 10

[lost python]

hmm hmm

[hazy frost]

The 10 could be genuinely the perfect phone imo with how things are going for Google

[dull garnet]

i liked the 6, the only reason i'm not still using it is that the battery bloated. and then i broke/shorted the screen while i was using it opened so i've recycled it now 🤡

[hazy frost]

Yeah I saw a lot of battery issues with them

And the build quality was a lot cheaper for the 6 vs new ones

[dull garnet]

never really noticed with the body in a case

i do like that the 8 is like .2" smaller

[hazy frost]

If ur from the US or some European countries tho check out the Apple certified refurbished section of the website and u can get last years flagship for like $2-400 off

They’re a good deal

[dapper nymph]

ok, im having another bizarre fuckery now

after installing amd andrenaline, and some settings later

[lost python]

yeah i dont play games at all. at worst maybe pokemon tcg or something like that.
i mainly browse or read on it. a good camera for both video and pics would be a big plus though

[dapper nymph]

i can't enter safe mode or bios

it's a black screen

[dull garnet]

amd moment

[dapper nymph]

if i give an input into bios, it'll be a black screen, but going esc > enter boots as usual

[lost python]

im locked to a specific provider and a contract with them, so thats not a possibility for me unfortunately

[hazy frost]

Ah

[real edge]

if we get the pixel 10 this year they might upgrade their processor

[hazy frost]

Well that’s fine since you’re likely getting an ok deal anyway

[real edge]

to a much better one

[dapper nymph]

how bad is it to ddu no tin safe mode

[hazy frost]

Pixel 10 pro will be the phone I’ve always wanted hopefully

So long as they keep the smaller form factor version

I didn’t buy the 8 bc of it being too big

[lost python]

my gf has the pixel 7 and shes been going crazy over it

[dapper nymph]

disabling fast startup didn't work, im not sure about changing hdmi cables, i've only got one and i lack the cables for the rest of the ports for the 7800xt

[hazy frost]

Everything before the 8 was terrible and the 8 was mediocre

I’m glad I don’t own one now

I have a friend with a 7 that’s had to use warranty like 6 times on it

[dull garnet]

The screen went real bad on my friend's 7 pro lol

[hazy frost]

Yeah it was screen battery and casing splitting apart lol

[dire viper]

@potent arrow @sly elk daily listing finds in salt lake

[dapper nymph]

upon using ddu to get rid of drivers, safe mode worked again

and bios

upon reinstalling drivers, they dont work again

not like i need sam anyways

no, i dont have msi dragon center

[sly elk]

@dire viper it's hard to imagine THIS being called a mercedes

it looks like a tacky rice mobile from pimp my ride lol

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/spyxfamily-spy-x-family-anime-proud-reward-gif-12306995752576825325

[sly elk]

i wonder if it has TVs in the back of the headrests

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/xzibit-pimp-my-ride-nice-gif-25537251

[sly elk]

i need more of that show lmao

[dull garnet]

too good

warms the heart to know the work they did on that show was craptacular, purely cosmetic upgrades lol

[wraith agate]

what was that show again? Pimp my Ride?

[dull garnet]

Yeah

[sly elk]

tfw one of your wifi APs craps out and you don';t have a backup so you have to buy one off amazon

[sly elk]

lol newegg has an option to make an offer

too bad it declines everything LOL

[glossy ravine]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f0wXe2bAeuI

"Do you think this guy is overcompensating for something?"

"Nah."

[inland mauve]

goodbye airflow

[sly elk]

dude's never seen a mining rig before? lol

[neon shell]

Does anyone else get blurriness when they set the resolution to 144 hertz? Like my game runs super smooth but if you look super close, it's all blurry

[odd sand]

Do you have motion blur enabled in the game?

[neon shell]

lemme check

[odd sand]

Or some ultra-low-motion-blur mode that disables itself at higher refresh? (I have a 240hz that I can run 120hz with ULMB for example)

Could just be you don't notice the motion blur as easily when the refresh is set lower

[neon shell]

lemme take a screenshot

one sec

maybe blurry isn't the right word but this is what happends

if I zoom in it doesn't happen

[modest helm]

anyone familiar with xiaomi products? i'm not seeing a significant difference between poco pad and redmi pad pro beside slight price difference

and redmi pad pro performing very slightly less than poco pad

hmm actually poco pad is online only so i might go with redmi pad pro

[sly elk]

i love this build (not mine) XD

they have the sonic motherboard! ❤️

and that gpu looks great vertically mounted

it'd be even better if it had rgb on the bottom of the shroud lol

[inland mauve]

that's the ugliest Sonic I've ever seen

[sly elk]

LOL

oh yea that setupid FUNKOPOP

[hot shadow]

wh- where's the case

or is that case just so huge it looks like a room? damn

[sly walrus]

it's the hot new thing

"air" "cooling"

[hot shadow]

you mean poor people thing? we used to do this cause we had parts but no case

poor teenager thing

[sly elk]

uh

randomly clicked a link on buildapcsales for a $999 5080 and it shows as in stock locally? -scratches his head -

[sly walrus]

buy it

see what happens

[sly elk]

oh it's not available anymore 😄

they just tricked me to sign in xd

[neon shell]

actually could this be the reason why it's pixalated like this?

[wild wyvern]

im kinda familiar with redmi but not poco

i think its the spec diff

[neon shell]

do you guys turn on unlimited fps in nvidia control panel?

[paper tusk]

is dpi scaling overridden? windows is stupid like that

[neon shell]

lemme check

I didn't know this was a thing

[neon shell]

what do you click on under compatibility to find this?

nvm I found it

Yeah I don't have the high dpi scaling override checked

should I check it?

[paper tusk]

yes

[neon shell]

ok done ty

have a paissa in return

[paper tusk]

[neon shell]

lmao

[dapper nymph]

im confused with my situation with bios and safe mode

i can enter it, but only after i uninstall amd drivers

[glad dove]

Hold left shift while you tell windows to reboot and don't let go of left shift until it reboots.. it should give you options to adjust your startup or boot into safe mode

[spare elbow]

since i cant find a decent answer on google im asking here, if i have the option of upgrading to 7800x3D or 9700x which would be better

[sharp star]

7800X3D

[spare elbow]

I don't play a lot of super intensive current gen games i think warframe is probably the most intensive thing i play lol

[spare elbow]

even if i can get 9700x at a pretty cheap price?

[sharp star]

X3D chips chew through everything within reason

[spare elbow]

also having researched im probably going to go with a cheaper ish liquid cooler but

[sharp star]

If you are able to find and afford a 9800X3D then that would be the better option; otherwise stay with the 7800X3D

[sharp star]

which one

[spare elbow]

i was looking at thermalright frozen prism i think

which is like

sub 100 bucks

[sharp star]

Arctic has B-stock of Liquid Freezer 2s and 3s if you wanna go that route

[spare elbow]

i'm aiming for a microcenter bundle they dont have a 98000x3d one sadly

[sharp star]

okay ouch

[spare elbow]

actually wait im blind

they do but its pricier

[spare elbow]

i dont wanna deal with the weird mounting on liquid freezer tbh

[sharp star]

fair

[spare elbow]

well

maybe i just get a 240 lf 2 or 3

lemme see

[hazy frost]

for am5 either go the x3d cpus or just stick to the 7600/9600 for gaming if u dont need 8 cores specifically for smth

[hazy frost]

microcenter have the 7600x3d still as well iirc

[odd sand]

https://www.engadget.com/cybersecurity/rcs-messaging-adds-end-to-end-encryption-between-android-and-ios-120020005.html?src=rss

Gonna finally be able to appease the ipharts complaining about chat bubble colors?

[dapper nymph]

im going to be honest, i did mention both of them

anyways

did a windows reinstall

still, the amd drivers are blocking bios and safe mode

[dull garnet]

that makes as much sense to me as it does to you

also getting to safe mode is such a pain nowadays

[sly elk]

just restart without shutting down 3 times, plus points if you do it while it's booting

shift+f8 might also work

[dapper nymph]

it was the monitor

i dont know why

[sly elk]

yea that doesn't surprise me

[dapper nymph]

but it was the monitor

[sly elk]

so my 3080ti doesn't support bios with displayport > 1.2

my samsung 57" uses displayport 1.4 but prefers 2.0

i have to manually change it to 1.2 to see the bios (and can't get full res at that)

alternatively I can use hdmi and see the bios every time

[dapper nymph]

i use hdmi

i'd like to know

[sly elk]

either way waking from sleep is a hit-or-mss thing, even if it's just display sleep

[dapper nymph]

what's this with changing displayport

[sly elk]

it could be the same kinda issue

[dapper nymph]

this shit is so bizarre, i overlooked it because i did the step where I'd uninstall drivers to find out why im not seeing bios

[sly elk]

i do find this odd

so your'e saying without the drivers installed, you can get into bios

[dapper nymph]

yes

this is so fuckign weird

[sly elk]

it might be the same kinda deal though

[dapper nymph]

safemode too

[sly elk]

hdmi and displayport both have version tracking things

what kinda monitor is it?

[dapper nymph]

an old samsung monitor

the current monitor im on is an asus

but it's from someone who's meant to be currently using it

the "spare" monitor is a monitor so old from the 200x, it doesn't have a hdmi cable but that thing where you screw it in

anyways, my next step is to find out if my settings are making the rx 7800xt perform like ass when it shouldn't

it did really well on benchmarks

but it was lacking when actually playing games

by well, i mean it beat my 2060s in benchmarks

i can finally enable sam, but something else still feels lacking

[potent arrow]

VGA?

[dapper nymph]

yes vga

[potent arrow]

how would a VGA monitor prevent bios access...

[dapper nymph]

i don't have a vga cable

anymore

and

the gpu doesn't even support vga

unless i somehow have an adapter for it

[potent arrow]

oh

I understand now

[dull garnet]

making me feel old

[potent arrow]

so you are saying you can't access when you use that monitor?

trying to sort this out lol

[dapper nymph]

the spare monitor only has a vga port
the monitor that i normally use, can't access bios or safemode with amd drivers
the asus monitor im borrowing can

[potent arrow]

wtff

[dapper nymph]

the rest of the slots on the gpu are... not hdmi slots, im not sure what they're called

[dull garnet]

displayport

i had some weirdness with either my 670 or 970 where i had to use a specific port on the card to see the bios but that was ages ago

[dapper nymph]

it's just displayport?

[potent arrow]

oh

I see

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/iM08ikJ8FR

look at the first comment

fucking displayport weirdness

sounds like what you are experiencing

[dapper nymph]

it'd be a lot harder and worrisome if it didn't even show anything i guess

least it was able to do everything else normally except bios and safe mode

so... what are the settings in adrenaline mode that makes it smoother

[sly elk]

newegg has the 9070xt i want... with bundled with a 9700x.....

i already have a 7800x3d!

so baasically i get to ebay a cpu

[dull garnet]

bundling desirable goods should be illegal

[hazy frost]

that would be hard given most goods are desirable by someone

[sharp star]

Yeston?

[sly elk]

asrock steel legend!

it's a nice looking gpu and one of the cheaper ones

[dire viper]

Dw on Amazon it’s funny

[sly elk]

getting a gpu on amazon is impossible

[dire viper]

People are review bombing the scalper sellers so you see 1 star reviews under listings that are 600 over MSRP

[odd sand]

tbf they do make VGA to DVI and HDMI adapters /s

[dapper nymph]

they do

but i really didnt think of needing it

the old monitor's 1024x768

which is... eh

[odd sand]

...And EA... and ABK/Microsoft... And so so many companies these days it seems.

Don't build value anymore, just pay someone to brainhack people into double mortgaging their house to pour all their money into bullshit.

[wraith agate]

Line can only go up, the line must go up

[sharp star]

line will only go up if it’s CS2 skins

[odd sand]

Nah, line goes up was the 80s and 90s.
Line must up the go up every year forever! That's been the current market motto the last 15 years or so

Cut something off at the knees and ruin years or decades of potential revenue to make that line go up this quarter. Worry about next quarter, next quarter!

Also: Never lower executive pay or fire them for bad decisions.

[wraith agate]

CEOs can only resign but they must get their golden parachute or else what would happen to them? The poor things!

[odd sand]

Golden parachute into another immediate job opportunity, because past performance has no bearing on future job prospects at the C-Suite level

Tough economic times I'm afraid, so despite record profits I'm gonna have to lay off 10% of the company.

Also I'm voting myself to have a $200M raise this year.

[outer sand]

whats the alternative to ublock origin now?

no longer working

[dire viper]

Just remember the golden age of capitalism was during WW2 where the government seized the means of production and told everybody what they were gonna make, how they were going to make it, what they would be paid for it, and if you wanted to buy a car you’d have to send in an official form to the government outlining what necessitated purchasing one

[sharp star]

Using Firefox and using it there

[outer sand]

no option for chrome now? 👀

[sharp star]

uBlock Origin Lite

[potent arrow]

getting off chrome is an option :)

[dire viper]

Firefox my goat

[dapper nymph]

im trying to get off chrome and try out librewolf but

chrome's password manage is convenient and still stayed after a windows reinstall

would be nice if i could put it into librewolf, it just resets each time

[hazy frost]

Moving off chrome is doing urself a favour in general

Firefox or Librewolf people are mostly moving to mostly the former version lol

[dapper nymph]

chrome's been blocking adblockers, so the least i could do would be chrome for account related stuff and librewolf for general things

[hazy frost]

On my phone tho I use brave which is chromium unfortunately but has a built in ad block that’s as good or better than ublock

[dapper nymph]

unless i can figure out why librewolf keeps resetting remembered passwords

i swear i ticked the autofill

[hazy frost]

Idk

I just use Firefox

Brave or Firefox on my phone depends what I’m doing

Firefox on mobile doesn’t support ublock and brave has an equivalent so I have to use it

I will not be extorted out of all my money for YT premium

[dull garnet]

I use bitwarden for passwords

[sharp star]

same

[sly elk]

hehe

not mine ofc

[hazy frost]

I love that card sm the power connector location is just so nice

[sly elk]

TIL that yeston sells case fans too

[hazy frost]

Yeston sells many things that aren’t just anime girl GPUs

[sly elk]

it is! It's so nice and hidden

that way you can't see the 12vhpwr connector melting 😄

[hazy frost]

I like the actual design of it too tbh it’s very unique for once

I feel like Radeon GPUs have been getting nicer more distinguishable designs the last 2 generations

[sly elk]

uh huh

looking at reddit i feel like i'm the only person not able to get a 9070xt XD

[hazy frost]

Reddit people are either talking about how good it is after they got it or trying to burn AMD for a ‘paper launch’ bc they didn’t get one in the first week

People do not know what paper launch means

People are somehow doom posting AMD even with a good launch lol

[sly elk]

nah I think people are salty for understandable reasons

the "$599" 9070xt that was only $599 because of a rebate from AMD, and only on GPUs imported before the tariffs started on 3/4

AMD could've saved themselves that PR headache by not advertising the $599 price at all and just launching at 699 or 729 or whatever the 'actual' current price is

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-quicksilver-rx-97tqickw9-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-16gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814150905

I still think this is hilarious

xfx is pulling a zotac

$869 for their bottom of the basement 9070xt non-oc, no rgb, no nothing

[dire viper]

Yea even with all the higher end hardware they put on the boards it’s still too much

[sly elk]

the sad part

[dire viper]

Like 750 tops

[sly elk]

try finding a 5070ti in stock for less

[dire viper]

Lmao

[hazy frost]

Yes but given people would also be happy with that I don’t see why anyone cares it’s not $600

Best case it’s $600

Worst case rn still way better than other options

[sly elk]

there's a few reasons but I think a good chunk of it is

they launched it at $599, and now you're seeing retailers asking $700-800 for them

[hazy frost]

They’re still msrp in the UK as well

Or close to it

[sly elk]

at first it was the 9070XT OC models with the fancy shrouds

but now even the cheap models are solidly above 700

[hazy frost]

Retailers were charging $800 day 1 anyway has nothing to do with the rebate

[dire viper]

Cause it should be 600 dollars 😔

It’s just fancy sand

[hazy frost]

As soon as they realised they could charge more they did

Same as Nvidia cards were with retailers

[sly elk]

and they can

because the 9070xt is a 5070ti equivalent basically, and those cost more

[hazy frost]

Only real problem is not having a reference model from AMD

[sly elk]

they can charge the same price if they want, both are sold out instantly anyway

[dire viper]

I hate under stocked launches 💔

[hazy frost]

I don’t think AMD could’ve stocked enough for demand for these

Nvidia having like 10 5070s in the world wasn’t helping the demand for a gpu overall

[sly elk]

frfr

[dire viper]

Wait another month

[sly elk]

the 9070xt had a ton of stock apparently

it's just that there was even more demand

[hazy frost]

Yeah it was pretty good honestly

But still sold out quickly

[dire viper]

Because NVIDIA is incapable of stocking anything and AMD seemingly was puffing along just fine

[hazy frost]

People have been advising to wait for the 9070 before buying for the last few months

People want to upgrade

People can’t get the Nvidia GPUs

There’s a LOT of people who want one rn

[sly elk]

yea nvidia doesn't wana sell consumer gpus if they can get 3x more selling them as ai compute units

isn't that the whole crux with the 50 series in the first place

[dire viper]

And also NVIDIA ate shit with faulty hardware probably requiring revalidation of all existing chips and

AMD had all the time in the world

[hazy frost]

AMD makes half as much but still way more than gaming market from cdna

[dire viper]

NVIDIA still probably doesn’t even know why the chips are defective I bet

[hazy frost]

Even datacenters are buying AMD bc is it better? Not really

Is it half the price tho? Yes

[sly elk]

tbh the yields they are having seem better than they expected

erm if the intent of the 50 series was to sell the defective 'but good enough' AI chips

[hazy frost]

Nothing is gonna come of the egregious 50 series launch unfortunately

[sly elk]

and they thought there'd be enough defective chips to stock 50 series cards

[hazy frost]

I mean it is still like 15% of revenue which they should care about

[sly elk]

yea duh lol

[hazy frost]

But of the 15% I doubt they lost that much

Really

[sly elk]

they don't have any obligation to provide the public with gaming GPUs

[hazy frost]

I mean the % of revenue is still a good chunk even if a minority of it

[dire viper]

I honestly wonder if the commercial stuff is defective also which would be extremely problematic

[hazy frost]

A company doesn’t enjoy 10-20% of their revenue being cut down either

[sly elk]

besides, you know what would be more profitable than selling gpus?

selling access to geforce now

[dire viper]

Imagine selling shit like that to IBM or Amazon or Microsoft

[hazy frost]

True

[sly elk]

even better

if they moved both the ai customers and the gaming customers to their cloud services

[hazy frost]

Would actually work if internet wasn’t awful in most of the world