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brave oxide
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while 20s 40s had them

ancient raft
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hopefully.

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3090

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a 5800x which is probably failing

brave oxide
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join the 3D cache gang

wild wyvern
dull garnet
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i wonder if pcie3 would be a limitation for a 9070 XT

brave oxide
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if you mean supers, there's no super card for 30 series

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they only did refresh of 20 and 40 series, and both launched with... really low performance for the price

dull garnet
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they tocked 10 and 30 too

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just different naming

brave oxide
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50 is in an odd spot where 5070 Ti and above are fine, but 5070 isn't

wild wyvern
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@brave oxide is 4060 worth it if I'm upgrading from an rx 580

dull garnet
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1070 Ti, 1080 Ti / 3070 Ti, 3080 Ti, 3090 Ti

wild wyvern
brave oxide
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tbh I'd consider the Ti as part of their main line

dull garnet
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its literally the same thing

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there's no rule for "Ti" usage either

ancient raft
brave oxide
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I don't see it as the same thing, the super refresh usually comes late, near the end of the generation

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while something like, 2080 Ti came out a week after 2080, clearly an intended early launch rather than a refresh

dull garnet
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the cards i listed came a year later

hazy frost
dull garnet
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so...

hazy frost
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barelyt better than last gens supers and coming with defects

brave oxide
dull garnet
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yeah its dumb

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3060 Ti was 30 series launch

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but the 3060 wasn't lol

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launch window-ish, a month or so later

hazy frost
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inb4 somehow worse than 4060 and 4060ti

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tghats the trend so far

brave oxide
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maybe worse than 4060 ti but i don't think worse than 4060 is possible haha

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^ I say, but they might just prove me wrong

dull garnet
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I was thinking earlier

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about the video card market when they were just for gaming

brave oxide
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semi related, but I was looking up earlier if Intel ever said anything about making 3D cache CPUs, and there were some talks from late last year of making some but only for their Xeon server line

hazy frost
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i mean until late 2022 gaming twas still atl half the revenue for nvidia and they still made crap cards

dull garnet
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I wonder if there's a lot more units being sold today than 20 years ago too

hazy frost
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But the ray tracing is better

brave oxide
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realistic sun rays for a crisp 30 fps 1080p gameplay

hazy frost
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Yeah I don’t get wanting upscaling or ray tracing on low budget cards bc it never works well at low resolutions

odd sand
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I kid... it will be 128bit bus paissasquint

sly elk
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aye, officially ordering a 9070xt when I can get my hands on one LOL

dire viper
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And if it’s close to MSRP ie within 60 bucks

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40 minute long video about mini vans

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what 😭

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I understand now

sly elk
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the sienna comes in green

wild wyvern
sly elk
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every now and then the xfx 9070xt i like pops into stock for a brief moment on amazon

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but I never seem to snag it lol

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... dangit when are the yeston sakuras gonna be available

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i legit want one LOL

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it even looks good from the side

lost python
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hmm kinda odd that none of the 9070xt models appear to have a usb-c port

dull garnet
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is it?

hazy frost
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The original one they made bc the bottom side looks so good

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I’d buy the new design if I didn’t buy a vertical mount but I don’t want people seeing an anime girl in my pc

wild wyvern
hazy frost
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I’m a big fan of last gen’s 7900xtx Sakura design as well

hazy frost
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Wdym

wild wyvern
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I mean its just a gpu lol

hazy frost
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Yes

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It’s nice to have one that looks good anyway

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I’d only pay extra for models that actually look fairly unique which isn’t many

hot shadow
hazy frost
hot shadow
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damn this guy has FRIENDS

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wouldn't the anime girl be kinda hard to see

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I was thinking about getting a led plate to go over the gpu

wild wyvern
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Backplate is facing up wards

hot shadow
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or led anti-sag bracket thing

wild wyvern
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I want my whole inside of my pc to be black tbh

hazy frost
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Nitro+ is also an interesting model for once

lost python
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I like that mesh

wild wyvern
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Why are some gpu so chonky

hazy frost
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Cooling

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And aesthetics

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The higher end GPUs are usually going into a pc of someone with money who has a larger mid tower and it looks better if it fills the case out more

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And the giant heat sink doesn’t hurt to have

wild wyvern
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I like the design of an ASUS 4060

hot shadow
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man I'm gonna need to replace my case with bigger one at this rate

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already pushing the mid size

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back compartment is like a surgeon's nightmare

hazy frost
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Mines fine for any gpu still I might get a smaller case bc it looks empty atm

potent arrow
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mines basically as small as it gets lol

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I refuse to open the side panel

dull garnet
hazy frost
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It’s ok it has frame gen

dire viper
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Cadillac got approved for Formula 1

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What a world we live in

hazy frost
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Audi and Cadillac

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Interesting

dire viper
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Audi’s not so interesting

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They were running shit down in diesels in other racing series cause funny

hazy frost
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It’s interesting they’ve been so confident and going further than they had mentioned initially

dire viper
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Bring back the R10 TDI

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It kinda sucks how tight the regulations are for F1

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I mean there is a huge difference between cars still but hybrid V6 😔

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Bring back i4 F1 cars making over 1000hp

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The BMW era

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1600hp inline 4 in qualifying trim

graceful sparrow
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Well...I bought the PC

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Hope I won't regret it

sly elk
hazy frost
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It’s just a combination of a lot of things that’s led to it being so shit

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The 12v 2x6 when done properly should be fine on mid tier GPUs

sly elk
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it should, but there's still a chance the 300w this uses gets funneled down 1 or 2 pins at once the way they hooked it up

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not quite as dire as trying to pull 600w down 1 or 2 pins but

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it's still on my list of cards i'll consider if i see one in stock >>

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the way inventory is showing up on amazon i'll probably end up with an xfx mercury card lol

hazy frost
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There weren’t any melting 4070ti supers

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Not even many if any 4080s that I’ve seen

sly elk
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^ but sometimes they do still have that problem xd

hazy frost
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My 4070ti draws about 300w and it still lives

sly elk
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the 30 series apparently didn't because they did actually use proper load splitting on the few cards that came with that connector

hazy frost
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Yes

sly elk
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-pets his evga which used 3x8 instead-

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that said 3x8 isn't 'rated' for 600w or whatever

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though it COULD carry 600w

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afaik the spec only allows 150w instead of the full 288w per connector because of those stupid Y cables

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idk why those stupid y cables even exist ><

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there was but a brief moment in time where you would have a gpu that used 150w < x < 288w of power and could safely use one of those

hazy frost
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If it’s not a shitty implementation anyway

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4 8pins would be kind of crazy tbf but 2 12v2x6 cables would be fine

sly elk
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agreed

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i just never had a problem with 3x8 lol

hazy frost
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Yeah 3x8 was fine

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Any more it’s starting to get ridiculous lol

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Gonna just have power connectors running the entire length of ur gpu

sly elk
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I've never done this before but I'm returning a surge protector to amazon because I really don't like the build quality, not for that price lol

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13.99, well it's cheap, but the plug sockets look kinda cheap and the cord has this 360 degree swivel thing that gives me zero confidence either

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but it feels kinda like those $5 ones from big lots

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sadness, APC quit making surge protectors too. That explains why I was having trouble finding them on amazon 😦

hazy frost
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i forgot how bad frame gen is sometimes lol

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turned itself on in mhw earlier for some reason and i thought my game was about to crash

wide hill
hazy frost
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nope

wide hill
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i bet you gonna love multi frame gen

hazy frost
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lmaoo

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i hate all of it

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all sucks

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never vuying a gpu intending to use that

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maybe right if i keep this forever and its basically useless

wide hill
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what gpu do you have now then?

wraith agate
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I said it and I'm gonna say it again, I don't intend to replace my 4090 for the next six years

wide hill
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i still have my 2070 super

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i bought it 5 years ago

wraith agate
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And by the looks of it, if society doesn't end by then, then I'd have to push this thing longer

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I want graphics card with real frames

hazy frost
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will replace it in a year or two maybe

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depends if amd cooks up more

wide hill
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eh, you gotta wait 3 or 4 more years, that card is like same performance as the 50 series

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unless you the type of person that buys a new gpu to play on ultra high 4k

hazy frost
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new generation will be in 2 and a potential super refresh mighhjt be appealing

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or a refresh from amd even

wide hill
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idk, i guess i am just too patient and poor.
if they manage to up their gain with the raster performance and not relying on frame gen sure

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but innovation is getting slower

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nvidia's 50 series felt like a rushed gpu launch before they even managed to stock up their production to release it ASAP just for the AI stuff and shareholders

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and amd is catching up slowly

hazy frost
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would be pleasantly surprised by nvidia offerings but not expected

brave oxide
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aint letting this boy rest for a long time

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(unless it dies)

wide hill
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i gotta check performance graph

brave oxide
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but also im still 1080p so little reason to upgrade for a long time

wide hill
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yeah, if you were going from 4070ti to a rx 7900xt, that is practically the same performance

hazy frost
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that is why i am not buying one

wide hill
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i doubt that one more generation would be going that much higher either

brave oxide
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9090 XTXT when

hazy frost
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theres literally no reason to think that

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this is amds mid range this generation

wide hill
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if you were going to aim for the top of the line gpu; maybe

hazy frost
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that is what i intend to do

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given amds mid range 9070xt is 30-40% faster than the 7900gre was and more than that for the 7800xt

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even following that trend the comparative gpu next gen would be a good upgrade

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not to mention the even bigger RT uplift from them

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i would definitely spend $600-700 on a 30-40% uplift

wide hill
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ofcourse if you are going for an up in tier, i was mostly thinking if one were going from 9700xt to a 10700xt

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but yeah, you might be getting double the performance if going for the top tier cards

hazy frost
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im talking 10070xt or whatevr they call it

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by this trend it would still be a 30% increase from what i have

wide hill
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amd trend*

hazy frost
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even if it cost more than $600 like 750 id be happy for that given id probably still get 400-500 for mine

hazy frost
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thats what im talking about

wide hill
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just making fun of nvidia

hazy frost
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i dont expect nvidia to follow unfortunately

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but would be happy if they did

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still the option of buying a used 4090 if they come down

hot shadow
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can always check Facebook market

wide hill
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im hoping i can earn more money so i can actually buy a gpu

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until my current gpu dies, i will hope i won't spend any unnessecary money to upgrade on a haste

golden stream
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Tho prolly diff if 5090 tho

hazy frost
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5080 would almost be good if it wasn’t defective and constantly at a $600+ markup

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At $900 it’s a reasonable ish upgrade from the 4080 if it wasn’t missing rops, blowing capacitors on that one gpu and costing $2000

sly elk
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hmm

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amazon charging $799 for the tuf 9070xt seems a bit of an ask

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i mean the xfx rgb units are going for 819 and 849 iirc which is even more of an ask LOL

paper tusk
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I would consider that excessive, and I coughed up 750 for mine (because I didn't have a choice in anything else with proper Honeywell thermal compound)

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But if it's the difference between getting one and price increase roulette/waiting for stock ...

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😐

dire viper
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they need to attach the honeywell desk fans directly to GPU's

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they go crazy

paper tusk
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powercolor hellhound (xt)

wild wyvern
odd talon
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Anyone here with a Windows VR headset having issues on Windows 10?

lost python
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pretty sure there is no proper support for windows MR anymore.
apparently some headsets still work with steamVR though

odd talon
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I was afraid of that

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Headset is pretty much bricked

hot shadow
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yea wmr died

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even Index is getting boomer cause it's just so large but at least it works

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big screen beyond is the smaller thinnest one now

odd talon
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Gonna be a while for me to replace my VR headset then

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Fugk

hot shadow
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you might get a newer quest then since it's not as pricy

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if you don't care about fbt anyway

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most ppl dont

lost python
odd talon
lost python
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should still work on steam

hot shadow
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it's too bad, I was rather excited Microsoft wanted to invest in vr

odd talon
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It does not

hot shadow
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a lot of wmr stopped working 4 months ago

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it's with the push to win11 that finally killed some

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last year some already got bricked

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funny that rift s still works

lost python
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hmm according to the internet, if you are still on win10, then it should still work Thonk

hot shadow
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it should ya but for some reason there's been a lot of 'it wont'

odd talon
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Mhm

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I updated windows and that error started popping up

lost python
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i love microsoft so much...

odd talon
hot shadow
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yea it has to do with your win10 update

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it's not officially said but it did that

odd talon
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Pretty much

lost python
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thank god i didnt go for the reverb g2 after all

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thankyou HP for fucking up customer support once again before i made the decision

hot shadow
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3s is cheaper btw

odd talon
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It was a good option at the time

hot shadow
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if you don't mind lower quality but

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it's still better than quest2

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which is leagues better than hp reverb

lost python
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you could probably get a quest 2 for like 200 bucks now though

hot shadow
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yes

odd talon
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I could

hot shadow
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quest 2 is still good

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or quest 3s

lost python
odd talon
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But I am a man of quality

lost python
hot shadow
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it's at least not screen door effect like rift s was

lost python
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rift s was pain

hot shadow
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ehh

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he would need base station for anything valve puts out

odd talon
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If they make a base station

lost python
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not if the new headset does inside out tracking

odd talon
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For the next one

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But I also want to try the meta games

lost python
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meta has some cool stuff

hot shadow
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valve base station are fine for anything it's all standardized

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that's why people have kitbash

lost python
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if you want to play native meta games though, i would really suggest going for the full quest 3 and not 3s

hot shadow
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they have valve index base station and then knuckle controllers then big screen beyond hmd

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kitbash

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sometimes htc vive basestation

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just has to work with steamvr

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I dont like any of the vive shit, never did, their iterations have been super strange

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I think because they were trying to invest in AR and shit

lost python
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vive had a strong start but they really dropped the ball, as usual

hot shadow
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yea

lost python
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im surprised HTC is still alive

hot shadow
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idk what the fuck apple was doing too wtf

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worst reveal of a hmd ever, not even real hmd

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furries propping up htc

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stg

odd talon
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And short lived

lost python
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an HMD for nobody for nothing

hot shadow
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embarrassing tbh I used to be really excited seeing what tech gadgets were coming out

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and now we got all this fuckin garbage

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oh well at least apple watches are neat

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got slimmer

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society hit the point of 'shit idk what to reinvent next'

odd talon
hot shadow
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again?

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for the third time? AkkoLaugh

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these finbros can go eat a dick

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embarrassed at all the e-waste generated from making garbage

lost python
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id unironically like to have smart sunglasses that show me the way i have to drive on my bike.
but all these smart glasses dont do anything well and die after a year

hot shadow
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yea

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and honestly people don't wanna wear glasses if they can avoid it

odd talon
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In hindsight I should have grabbed the Quest 3 when it was on a steep discount a while back

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Actually it's been on that dropped price for a while

odd talon
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But yeah, depending on the next couple months. I'll get a quest 3

golden stream
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Bug ngl atm smartglasses are p dum

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Bc ur eyes must adjust in order to see the letters/screen, then at outside, it's hella eyestraining, ain't count the need of US IP bc API shenanigan

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Rayban and other ones also did it but iirc just variant of Meta glasses

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The issue is, "the technology/screen inside the glass must be wore in a fixed determined distance else stuff will be hella blurry"

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Tfw I can only remember that vid content, no recall in the content creator name nor the vid's name playdead

potent arrow
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Oh

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lol

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they have what you need

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Everything ive seen on them is that they keep it stupid simple, so they actually deliver on what they promise

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...now I want them lol

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...only 100$ more expensive then my glasses

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looks like I know what work is getting me

sharp star
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Had to set up my mom’s iMac

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Also didn’t take her a lot of convincing to stop using the Magic Mouse that came with it

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I want to find out where Jony Ive lives and throw it at his house

golden stream
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Do et

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I hate the Magic Mouse to the core

sharp star
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I had to lend her one of my mice temporarily

golden stream
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Chocobo arse level of ergonomic and even more chocobo arse in charging port placement

sharp star
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I might go shopping for an ergonomic one since she’s turning 63 this year

potent arrow
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MX ergo

sharp star
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That’s what I was thinking

golden stream
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Yes

potent arrow
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there isn't another one for casuals that's better

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the deft pro exists too if you prefer that

wild wyvern
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@golden stream U5 245KF?

golden stream
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Da heck??

sharp star
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Arrow Lake? Really?

wild wyvern
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welp

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AM5 i cant really get an R7 with the stupid price it has rn

wild wyvern
golden stream
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I mean ngl SEA has better price for intel, AMD price is ridiculus

wild wyvern
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honestly viy is correct

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So i have to go with whats better even if its abit slow

golden stream
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Hahhhhh finally

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I'd say, get a decent motherboard, the CPU could be a bit lackluster but you can upgrade it anyway

golden stream
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Idk, I'm not intel person

wild wyvern
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Oh the one i said?

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XD

golden stream
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Like, legit, I know AMD stuff but not intel

wild wyvern
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Well cheapest mobo is an gigabyte

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But dang B860 mobo is rare lol

golden stream
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Lol

wild wyvern
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I dunno tbh honestly

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supposedly got alot i think?

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But maybe AM5 is what im gonnna aim for

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Im just lost on what to get

real edge
wild wyvern
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Sorry

potent arrow
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@wild wyvern aighty, Imma day this one more time,
You've been given a lot of options , Ive literally checked and you've been asking for advice for over a year now. It's at the point where personally as a mentor of this channel it's become disruptive enough that I have to say this. I am asking you to take it elsewhere, not here.

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You have plenty of options and advice to choose from, and we are usually happy to help. But I'm drawing the line here.

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This channel is about giving help and advice where we can, and we have. But there is a point where you are just wasting people's time and frankly I find it disrespectful. Please understand, and refrain from making any other queries in this channel.

wild wyvern
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My bad

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Sometimes the stuff you all give to me is too expensive for me

potent arrow
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drop it, we get it it's expensive. just keep an eye out and buy where you can.

sharp star
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I get that Southeast Asia is mega-fucked when it comes to components but doesn't mean you get to be indecisive for over a year

potent arrow
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Going to ask everyone to drop it for now and move on! Thanks for all who contributed!

golden stream
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Speaking of price, how's the 3090 and 4070ti (super) in you guys's place?

potent arrow
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in Canada?

golden stream
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Ye

potent arrow
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hell

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lmfao

golden stream
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Nani really

potent arrow
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:)

golden stream
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HOLY HYDAELYN

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Here I thought just SEA price is hell

potent arrow
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it's only gonna get worse :)

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my friend made a 2k profit reselling his 4090 and downgrading to a 9070

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let that sink in

golden stream
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Uhhhhh I kid u not
4070 ti (12gb) < 9070 xt (16gb) = 4070 ti super (12gb) < 3090 (ti)

potent arrow
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also one sec I'm at church so I shouldn't be on my phone rofl

real edge
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I wonder if I would profit selling my 4080super lol

golden stream
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Nahhhh Jesus can spare u lol

potent arrow
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nah it's his hour of the week

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so brb lmao

potent arrow
golden stream
potent arrow
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I bought mine for 1k mark up essentially

real edge
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I spent like 1100euro for mine, its a gigabyte aero model

golden stream
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Assuming you have a spare or can whisk a 9070 xt in as-intended price

real edge
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sarah recommended it so I bought it over the other AIBs lol

golden stream
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Decent card

real edge
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its a white model as well which is rare for what its worth

golden stream
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DOUBLE GOOD DEAL

real edge
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it has not burned yet

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which is enough for me

golden stream
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Assuming you only game and the heaviest could be MHWild and the monke game
That is a heck of a good deal if you sell it/someone buy it

dawn cave
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I need to get a new GPU at some point myself

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But I can run wilds on near Ultra with my 2060 Super

golden stream
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I alr need it lol the 1660 can only do so much

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Dem, how's temp and noise?

dawn cave
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Surprisingly fine, I'm only on 1080p

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It'd be worse if I went higher for sure

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It actually performs better near Ultra than it did on medium and low

golden stream
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Ok

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NANI TF

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It doesn't make any sense

dawn cave
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I ain't questioning it. My PC is just weird.

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I even have DLSS off

golden stream
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No framegen I guess?

dawn cave
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Nope

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I think the lack of frame gen improved my frames.

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Cause it doesn't support frame gen well

hazy frost
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stop looking at them

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the 245k is not a 14 core cpu it just has 8 e cores

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u get the same p cores on the 7500f and 7600 as the 245k

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and the 245k is reaally slow to the point even like the 8400f likely matches it rn

sharp star
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I turned off frame gen for Wilds

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also have REFramework installed

real edge
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when I go around to getting

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mh wilds I should ask around for optimizations

sharp star
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Surprisingly Denuvo isn’t that big of an impact on performance but rather Enigma Protector

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Which is what REFramework mitigates

real edge
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last I heard enigma drm was some russian shit that tends to clash with denuvo which causes some of the problems

golden stream
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That sounds ex bad

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Idk may try CP2077 with Wild at the same time

sharp star
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…Enigma is Capcom’s in-house DRM

golden stream
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But it seems if doing that it'll end up forced origami mode

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Ye

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That's my idiot brain, applied WuWa launch and how2fix the whole stutter and jank by running genshin at the background haha

hazy frost
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its one of the worse implementations ive seen tho

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wilds is super inconsistent with how its performing on people's hardware so far lol

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and the texture pack dlc on steam thats meant to be higher quality is broken

sharp star
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incredible

hazy frost
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im getting by with 75-90 fps

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playing online in linkl parties tho cpu usage is crazy

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assuming environment link is locally hosted as well when i join my friend with a worse cpu its been kind of stuttery sometimes

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otherwise idk what it is

potent arrow
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lmfao so I am not the only one who can't fucking turn it off

sharp star
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I'm gonna see if I can turn it off and on with REFramework uninstalled

lost python
sharp star
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oh

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okay

hazy frost
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its immediately noticeable bc it feels awful to play with

lost python
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but its issues also seem to be overblown given that a ton of games from capcoms catalogue have been using it for a while now

sharp star
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Anyway the only other tweaks besides REFramework I did were:

  • Updating DirectStorage to the latest versions
  • Updating DLSS
hazy frost
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updating dlss in wilds causes some potential issues

sharp star
#

Hasn't. Yet.

#

I left the FG DLL as is

potent arrow
#

I wanna know what the fuck Capcom is using that's causing all of these lobby errors lmao

sharp star
inland mauve
# sharp star

after seeing modders replace Congalala with Gemma, I agree

hazy frost
#

I just need the camera mod bc it doesn’t zoom out enough to see what the later HR monsters are doing lmao

lost python
potent arrow
#

gdi

inland mauve
hazy frost
#

especially in s maller areas camera gets jank

hazy frost
#

FSR frame gen looking better than DLSS frame gen is amazing

#

It’s actually impressive the lack of ghosting though I imagine the input latency still feels pretty bad

wild wyvern
#

@hazy frost i finally thinked it through btw

dapper nymph
#

2060s on low-med, slightly modded with framework, could not stay above 60 fps during the hunt with the weak brute wyvern at the start and with framegen

#

on 1080p

#

i didn't try out the directstorage mod

dire viper
#

on the topic of wilds

#

It looks like however the textures are deployed is scuffed

#

Cause a lot of the performance issues is from looking around

#

Like I can have Arkveld or Shia blowing up the entire map but as long as they aren’t moving it’s fine, but when they move and I’m tracking them my frames just tank

graceful sparrow
#

After realizing that the 9070 XT is out of stock, this is how my list ended up

dire viper
#

As long as you got MSRP that’s all that matters

#

The 9070 base is good

dire viper
#

16GB of VRAM will carry super hard

#

Cause VRAM famine for NVIDIA and most games limitations are purely VRAM

wild wyvern
#

@dire viper im getting an r5 7500f with rtx 4060

#

for real this time

sly elk
#

the sad thing about the 9070xt is the cool looking cards cost another $200

#

well, not all of them XD

#

iirc the asrock steel legend is close to msrp

#

669 and it's a good looking card

#

i'd vertically mount this one

#

the side is average but the backplate is cool

potent arrow
#

Oh neat

#

That looks kinda nice

#

@lost python

#

I was sent a 8gb FF14 mod

#

Im going to krillsomeone

lost python
potent arrow
#

people don't clean up faces probably

lost python
#

is it one of those fucking outfits with 260k polys and 8k textures for whatever the fuck reason?

potent arrow
#

or subdivided a single face into 824838283838 polygons

lost python
#

yeah like the earrings and nose ring mods that for some reason have 15k polys

graceful sparrow
brave oxide
#

join a public sync with that

dire viper
#

I need a 9070 cause I’m on a 3070

#

3070 is doo doo

sly elk
#

hehe i just want one because my monitor and my 3080ti do not get along well

dire viper
#

I will give you a 3.6 for the 3080ti

#

cause you'll need it eventually ;P

sly elk
#

pft my 300 might need one 😄

#

i would hope whatever is causing it to misfire enough to not pass the egr/vvt smog monitor isn't that bad

hazy frost
graceful sparrow
hazy frost
#

Yeah they’re pretty close realistically

#

If u can’t get an XT it’s still a good gpu

graceful sparrow
#

I was thinking about getting 7900XT

hazy frost
#

If u only care about rasterisation and without upscaling then sure

#

9070 is more efficient, better at RT and comes with FSR4 which genuinely is very good now

graceful sparrow
#

Then I realize 9070 price was similar

hazy frost
#

It’s definitely worth it still

graceful sparrow
#

Now I am in another awkward situation

#

I paid when they haven't confirmed the order playdead

hazy frost
#

Rip

graceful sparrow
#

Now I have to talk to the sales team

#

Because this PC is cheaper...

hazy frost
#

The best looking card for them that u can actually get in the west rn imo

sly elk
#

until the 2x6 catches fire 🔥

hazy frost
#

It won’t tho..

#

I’m all for hating the 2x6 but not when it’s actually a non issue in practice

#

If the 9070xt was drawing 400w+ yes

#

Given it’s not im not overly concerned by it

#

There’s a reason there’s a lack of 4070s and 4070ti models catching on fire

#

And bc it’s the 2x6 it won’t just come loose by user error so it’s only down to design flaws and not human error

rich jasper
#

So guys, i'm looking to upgrade my MB/PSU
I'm currently running an I7-9600K with a ROG STRIX Z390-E but i wanna move away cause i'm running a 4060 TI and i feel like i'm bottle necking with my older parts. Anyone have any recommendations on what I should upgrade to? I think im putting this in the right place

sharp star
#

Assuming you're keeping your GPU

rich jasper
#

yeah the gpu is brand new

#

like a month/2 old

sly elk
#

i like how the rgb looks on the xfx card

#

it's a shame it costs $820 though ><

#

a $220 premium... it's not worth it...

#

also that location for the rgb plug well, it's not the worst in the world if you run the cable back along the left side of the motherboard but wow it's not great LOL

#

even the stupid sapphire nitro doesn't cost that much

hazy frost
#

The power connector placement is just too good

sly elk
#

iirc it's like $779

#

oh yea that way you can't see it catching on fire /s

hazy frost
#

I saw someone get it for $700

#

In the UK it’s £690 as well so I imagine it probably is available at 700 if ur lucky

sly elk
#

nice

#

yea admittedly, i have the nitro on my amazon list

hazy frost
#

Tbf pretty much all of the models have cool designs

#

And are well built

sly elk
#

my list on amazon includes the nitro, steel legend, xfx mercury, gigabyte aorus elite, and sapphire pure

hazy frost
#

The nitro is probably most unique ignoring the yeston one lol

#

The power colour hellhound one is also pretty cool tho

sly elk
#

i'd take the yeston one but it will really clash with my build LOL

hazy frost
#

lol

#

Im gonna buy one as my next upgrade tbh

sly elk
#

tbh I'm not sure I've taken a good picture of my computer since I changed to a 7800x3d

hazy frost
#

It matched well enough given its white mostly

#

I don’t think it’s worth sidegrading for the design lol

#

Was tempting given I couldn’t afford their 4070ti

sly elk
#

yea I feel like the yeston card would look better in a white case with white fans and motherboard

#

to have that nice pastel color build

#

a light pink or blue case would also work

hazy frost
#

Currently

sly elk
#

your heatsink needs white fans hehe

hazy frost
#

I’m considering buying a 140mm tower in white or the AIO i wanted

sly elk
#

i get that the blades are still going to be black but it'd look less jarring

hazy frost
#

Yeah

sly elk
#

the good news is that's a thermalright tower!

#

and thermalright fans are cheeeeeaaap

hazy frost
#

lol I’d replace it with smth else if I did anyway

#

Will probably get a deepcool or Thermalright AIO given the prices rn tho

sly elk
#

i even use them in my other computer xD

hazy frost
#

They’re pretty good for the price but not the quietest either for how they perform

sly elk
#

i should stuff that computer under my desk and have it do what my mac pro is doing

hazy frost
#

My case fans are EK ones bc the lian li ones are even more ridiculousnin price

sly elk
#

but it'd take more space

potent arrow
#

I just use whatever the fuck I have in a bin in my basement

#

I got these old ass clear ones with molex

hazy frost
#

The Thermalright 360mm AIO is £50 lol

potent arrow
#

they threaten 50 series in a computer fire competition

hazy frost
#

I had NZXT fans for a while from my case and they were not great

#

I have Arctic ones and the old NZXT ones around still I think

sly elk
#

last time I took a good picture inside my case

#

i don't think a sakura would really fit in there lol

hazy frost
#

The RGB on that pump is amazing

sly elk
#

I have no regrets xD

#

fun story on that

hazy frost
#

I think u need more led strips tbh

sly elk
#

at the time corsair was selling only that transparent pump head on their website

#

so I bought the normal elite xt without the screen and then bought the screen separately :3

#

when I swapped out the motherboard/cpu/ram with the 7800x3d :3

#

i am quite proud of my cable management

potent arrow
sly elk
#

all of those rgb hubs/fan controllers are held on with 3m vhb tape lol

potent arrow
#

even this side sucks

sly elk
#

it still looks great

#

fortunately for you i'm a hardware nerd

#

i like seeing it all lol

#

i like how the am5 ryzens look

potent arrow
#

this side

#

I uh

sly elk
#

yea check it out

#

that's a sweet power supply

potent arrow
#

there's a motherboard somewhere there

#

trusty old 1000w Silverstone L sfx

sly elk
#

yea i don't see anything wrong, I see nice hardware

potent arrow
#

fucking AIO hose

sly elk
#

you could spend an assload of money on braided cables and nice cable ties or whatever

potent arrow
#

lmao I do cable combs and shit for clients

sly elk
#

but it still looks ok to me

potent arrow
#

but my personal rig nah

potent arrow
#

I hate downtime so much

#

this of took me an hour to throw together and boot

hazy frost
#

Mine is relatively tidy but not much in my case

potent arrow
#

that's nice

hazy frost
#

I feel like I might actually just get a smaller mid tower but I’d miss the 360mm top rad option

sly elk
#

my first build in this machine was christmas 2018 ., oh boy. xD

#

i'm never ever building on a holiday ever again

wraith agate
sly elk
#

i can toss the whole computer together in <30 min for sure, but actually making the wiring neat takes a while lol

#

if I HAD an attic

sly walrus
sly elk
#

he's a 350lb dude that likes hitting the walls when he's angry and stuff

#

he'd probably just stomp on the attic floor

wraith agate
#

Ah, just throw him out the window

sly elk
#

when we were teenagers he tried doing that out his 2nd floor bedroom window once

#

he wasn't trying to off himself but I don't think he realized he'd injure himself pretty good doing that

wraith agate
#

I dunno, I feel like if my sister was like that, I'd have murdered her long ago, I'm very very bitchy about my privacy

sly elk
#

i have a lot of patience but I admit some days I run out

#

also hard to keep your weight down when you eat your way out of stress xD

brave oxide
#

i just scrolled up and that is an insane amount of rgb up there

sly elk
#

My car is lacking rgb

dire viper
dire viper
#

Two silver Subaru outbacks have been driven through dealerships in the last few months

#

This is wild

#

First Utah now Cali

dire viper
sly elk
#

way too familiar

#

and that card's a bloody ripoff

paper tusk
#

but... AI

#

it's what frames crave

#

(I feel stupid typing that)

hazy frost
#

Funny that FSR has better frame gen rn anyway

#

Only problem is how many games support it properly

#

Tbf the best upscalers aren’t ever the default in game implementations

dull garnet
#

This RM850x occasionally makes what seems like a relay click sound at random intervals, and I can't seem to find anything about why online. Wondering if it is just a dodgy unit. Leaning towards just sending it back to Amazon rn and going back to my old unit :/

sharp star
#

That’s the Corsair quality we know and love

potent arrow
#

it's been enough of a problem that Corsair had to aknowldged it passing by

sharp star
#

I normally don't touch Corsair products that aren't their RAM

dull garnet
#

Yeah I'm not usually a fan either and this hasn't helped my perception...

potent arrow
#

yeah there it is

#

when relays or contactors go bad they click like crazy or randomly

hazy frost
#

The only reason I don’t buy from them more is the price of their stuff lol

real edge
#

the PSU that I bought for like 200 or so 7 years ago

#

the same model now goes for like 228

hazy frost
#

No psu is worth that much anyway unless it’s a 1200 or 1600w one and the good ones of those cost almost double anyway

real edge
#

tbh my PSU has been problem free for as long as I can remember

#

thats all I expect from it

hazy frost
#

Yeah

real edge
#

I could even put a 16pin gpu on it with the corsair adapter

hazy frost
#

People who are spending $200-300 on psus in this day and age are insane though

real edge
#

with no issue

hazy frost
#

Can get the same quality for half the price now

#

But people are scared of anything that doesn’t say seasonic or corsair on it

potent arrow
#

idk where corsair pulls them from, but watching green label PSUs explode will never not be funny to me

hazy frost
#

CAD?

potent arrow
#

Yeah

#

MY DOLLAR IS WORTHLESS WHOPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE

hazy frost
#

The UD1000GM is $190 at memory express

#

NZXT C1000 is $220

potent arrow
#

oh I already bought this lol

hazy frost
#

Ah

#

SFX is always expensive anyway

potent arrow
#

I had them in stock, im just poitning out how fucking incredillous stupid this is

hazy frost
#

But most people don’t need it

#

The Corsair SF1000 is pretty cheap tho

#

The one time Corsair is good value is the SFX ones

hazy frost
#

NZXT C series doesn’t get recommended enough

#

Although the 2023? Version is shit so u have to be careful

#

Tho that is similar to the old vs new Corsair CX ones

real edge
#

the atx 3.1 version

#

seems to be the one commonly sold here

potent arrow
#

I swear corsair is just picking the bad ones for fun now

hazy frost
#

Thankfully I won’t need a new psu for a while unless I get a second pc which would have to be SFX as well lol

real edge
#

my PSU is getting up there in age so I have to consider getting a new one when I next swap my parts

#

its I think 7 years old

#

its still fine

#

but its getting up there

hazy frost
#

It’ll be fine for another 7

real edge
#

I paid a lot for this HXi PSU back then

hazy frost
#

I have a 2023 HXi one

#

It’ll stay forever

potent arrow
#

Ive said it before, doesnt get better then HXi

#

especailly the older ones, are bullet proof

potent arrow
hazy frost
#

AXi

hazy frost
#

Cheap copies are nice

potent arrow
#

Im loving the tr100 mini, but is a bit big for my taste

#

yeah its nice, I have the gen 1 so I paid an arm and leg for it

#

the terra looks nice

#

TR100 next to the formd 1

hazy frost
#

I’d go for the NR200 probably bc I don’t need it smaller I think

potent arrow
#

I would get the tr100 over the NR200 personally

hazy frost
#

Formd t1 is my favourite overall

potent arrow
#

same size and it feels better for me

hazy frost
potent arrow
#

Running pretty cool rn

hazy frost
#

I don’t think it’s enough nicer

potent arrow
#

50 euro is no difference to me when it comes to sfx ngl

sharp star
#

I'm like more-or-less permanently gonna be here so I think I'm fine with going full tower for the rest of my life

#

Unless some major life-shaking event causes me to move away from home (please don't)

potent arrow
#

I think I rather have no pc then full atx LOL

sharp star
#

I used to be an ITX diehard

hazy frost
#

I mean I won’t switch my main pc to sfx

#

I’ll probably get MATX at most for that

#

AP201 is cool

potent arrow
#

I wanted to try that

hazy frost
#

I can’t stand noise so I need as much space for my 140mm fans and cooling solutions as possible

potent arrow
#

but I couldnt get it in

real edge
sharp star
#

I had a Fractal Torrent for like three years

hazy frost
#

I really don’t like that case

sharp star
#

I stopped using it because while I liked the airflow I didn't like the build quality

#

I swapped over to an Antec Flux Pro last month

hazy frost
#

It’s ugly and has crap build quality for a case that’s over $100

sharp star
#

lmao yeah

hazy frost
#

There’s way better quality in $50 cases than most fractal stuff now lmao

sharp star
#

that case was fuckin wimdy at least

hazy frost
#

I think I might wait until I have a custom loop to change case otherwise I’ll be changing it again in a year probably

sharp star
#

I swapped my tower cooler out for an AIO because Southeast Asia is currently a flaming hellscape with heat indexes of at least 42c

hazy frost
#

lol summer here has been getting too hot tbh

#

I’m considering buying an AIO just bc the price of a 140mm tower is basically the same now

#

It was only 36c last summer for a week or so but that was still hot for here and there’s no AC so ambient temp is crazy inside the house

dull garnet
#

It's perfectly fine besides the relay clicks

hazy frost
#

Yeah I would just do that

#

They’re usually pretty good for customer service

dull garnet
#

Or just get a replacement from Amazon idk

potent arrow
#

help another 212 showed up in my tech questions

#

when will this thing go away

sharp star
#

Until you pelt them with 212s

dire viper
#

@potent arrow @sly elk they need to bring back cool Mercedes 😮‍💨

potent arrow
#

LOL

dire viper
#

1990 420SE Guard

#

Bullet proof for pistol rounds

#

Used by police

sly elk
sharp star
#

Oh I was wondering what the MP5s were for

potent arrow
sharp star
potent arrow
#

SFX doesn't really accommodate for a 3.5 usually

sly elk
potent arrow
#

if you air cool yeah

#

theres a fat rad behind mine

sly elk
#

neat!

dull garnet
#

just feels like for reasonably priced power supplies in the UK you don't have a lot of options

odd sand
#

PSU prices have inflated a ton since covid

dull garnet
#

I mean like, even close to Corsair's RMx range

odd sand
#

used to be a basic PSU was $40-50 USD and a quality one was $75-100. Now it's like that cost for a basic one and $150-200 for a quality one.

dull garnet
#

I think I paid about £110 for my EVGA 650 P2 9 years ago, this RM850x was only a bit more (£136)

#

Plat rated vs Gold though

sharp star
#

lmao no

#

that's about as believable as a Mew under the truck

sly walrus
#

next they'll say that jensen snuck into everyone's houses and put the missing rops back

dire viper
dull garnet
#

I spent hours trying to move that damn truck

sharp star
dire viper
#

Lmao

hazy frost
#

The msi A-BN or seasonic b12 are $40-60 for 650-750w ones

#

I only paid £100 ish for the HX1000i

dull garnet
#

new? nice

#

popped the old PSU back in, RM850x is going back to Amazon

hazy frost
#

Usually u can only get good 850s for that much and 1000s are like 120ish

dull garnet
#

i can't go too long in my case cus its a fractal compact and i use the hdd cage

odd sand
dull garnet
#

80 plus white haha

hazy frost
#

u can go cheaper for 450 and 550w ones but its questionable

buoyant wasp
dire viper
#

The only platform that is true dead internet

odd sand
#

I don't know where they get $15B a year to set on fire for VR shit still

rich jasper
#

i swear to god, trying to get spectrum ISP at my house

#

has been such a pain

odd sand
#

I assume you don't have fiber available in your area?

sharp star
odd sand
#

Usually the easiest way is to get a self-install package and just do it yourself

rich jasper
#

But anytime i've had them come out it's been a

#

"Well we have no lines from your skybox"

#

"im just a tech not a construction team"

#

so now i'm just like "bring me the survey team and show me what in the fuck i need to do"

dire viper
#

Uh oh

#

Tesla is probably gonna get in trouble in Canada

#

Like genuine open fraud stuff

#

They somehow sold 8600 cars in just a few days which was a third of their total sales last year

#

Right before the end of the rebates for EV’s in Canada

#

Jalopnik going straight for the throat as usual

#

@potent arrow

#

According to the Canadian Auto Dealers Association, the last-minute Tesla application bomb left some 2,300 cars with unreimbursed rebates. The dealers gave their customers the $5,000 rebate from the point of sale, but the program had run out of money and ended over the course of the weekend when government offices were closed, sticking the dealership collective with about $10 million in broken promises. CADA spox Huw Williams complained, "These dealers in good faith gave customers the money for a program that is always refunded. They shouldn't be left making a payment on behalf of the Government of Canada. Tesla gamed the system.”

buoyant wasp
#

You love to see it

dire viper
#

Consider that the top tier Toyota dealers only sell about 500 cars a month

#

Like

#

Top top tier

buoyant wasp
#

Tesla sales down in most countries as well. Definitely fishy

dire viper
#

And Toyota/Lexus have the highest sales out of anybody

dire viper
#

Some dealerships will buy their own inventory for this reason but Tesla doesn’t operate as regular dealers

#

But dealers purchasing their own stock would not be applicable for rebates etc

#

If Canada structure the rebates similar to the US

potent arrow
odd sand
#

I prefer caramel corn, myself...

dire viper
odd sand
#

Because there are 100s of types of switches now, so they try to differentiate themselves with silly names, much like craft beers or small batch wines

dull garnet
#

glad my shitty epomaker died immediately and i came to my senses about getting into that hobby in any meaningful way

sly elk
#

"creamy purple pro"

#

LOL I like that they used "pro"

spring raven
# potent arrow

🎶 HOLY PANDA,
You've been down too long in the midnight sea
Oh, what's becoming of me?! 🎵

dull garnet
#

are SilverStone gud?

#

Cybenetics Platinum suggests yes

hazy frost
#

Yes it’s good but how much does it cost

dull garnet
#

oddly only about £14 more than the RM850x (or £24 for the newer version)

hazy frost
#

On the other hand u can get the NZXT C1000 for less money

#

Or the rm1000x for £10 more

#

Don’t just look on Amazon

dull garnet
#

I'm not

hazy frost
#

For 850w ones the A850GL is £100

#

Otherwise I’d get one of the 1000w ones if ur spending that much already

dull garnet
#

But... Platinum

#

That PSU is £202 on the sellers on own site lol

hazy frost
hot shadow
#

yumyumyum

dire viper
#

ITS SO SEXY UGNHGNNG

#

I need 40,000 dollars

odd sand
#

Yeah, there really isn't a need to go for any psu efficiency over gold, because the price diff between that and plat or titanium is usually more than the energy savings you'll see within the life of the psu

spring raven
hot shadow
#

like they dunno how to wire anything

#

or even attach it to paypal

#

like ok I guess they're not getting their free car

dire viper
#

Lmao

#

RAB I WANT MY FREE CAR

#

1965 PORSCHE 911

#

They may or may not be over 150k now

hot shadow
#

the lil donation food box they set out for the homeless catboys

dire viper
#

If you went to Uni in the late 90’s early 2000’s yea that would’ve been feasible

#

Lots of these cars that are now 100k+ were sub 10k in the early 2000’s

dull garnet
#

I member

dull garnet
# hazy frost Doesn’t do all that much

You're probably right. And as nice as that rating is SilverStone seems to provide a 5 year warranty max. Maybe an NZXT PSU isn't the worst idea, and that C1000 seems very well rated.

hazy frost
#

They’re made by seasonic

#

Or were

#

Idk if the new one is but it’s still reviewed well afaik

dull garnet
#

Kitguru suggests CWT, which I think is the same as the RMx line

#

Ya

dire viper
# dull garnet I member

one of my old customers when I worked at a porsche restoration shop kept all the newspaper listing clippings of cars he wanted to buy and some cars that go to auction for 500k+ were sub 40k back then...

dire viper
#

@potent arrow was looking at some D1 Lights cars

#

holy fucking shit

sharp star
wild wyvern
#

WTF

dull garnet
#

literally no reason to update a printer ever

wild wyvern
#

My house has an HP printer that shits itself sometimes xD

inland mauve
#

you should update it if it's connected to the internet, but also I wouldn't connect it to the internet

sharp star
#

I think you should take a bat to it

inland mauve
#

and HP not helping the case for keeping hardware updated

#

twats

hot shadow
#

i miss my brother printer because it was good but then it stopped fucking working too

hot shadow
#

then i had a Canon one and it also shit the bed

#

and now i really like this epson one and it's still working except the printer head is perma-misaligned. wtf is happening bro

#

everything printed is like subtly fuzzy

lost python
#

My current canon is weirdly just fine.
I had 3 HP ones before that though and all of them constantly came up with new issues

#

Notebooks, printers, monitors, customer service, hp is such a shit company

sly elk
#

my canon is almost 15 years old lol

#

i have a brother as well, the brother gets a lot more use because it's alwaysplugged in

#

the canon i only plug in when I need to scan something or fax something

hot shadow
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i was able to fool the Brother printer into thinking i had full color ink so that i could just keep an empty one in there while using only the black ink

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because the software doesnt let me print anything if i just remove it or if i had empty color

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you put duct tape over the 'window' on the cartridge haHAA

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what an easy fix

dull garnet
sly elk
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On my Canon when it complains about being our of color I can hold the OK button

hot shadow
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you can fool the HP printer by taking off the nonhp cartridge chip

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replace with your HP cartridge chip

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it's just one lil piece so don't fuk it up tho

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the rest is useless plastic

solid panther
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Ive become someone who plays with picture settings on my TV to get it just right

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😔

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To be fair to me, I bought an OLED so Im gonna use every glorious pixel to its fullest

sharp star
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tl;dw the 9950X3D matches the 9800X3D in gaming and the 9950X in production

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best of both worlds basically

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My recommendation is still the same as the last gen X3D parts; if your use case is strictly gaming, get the 9800X3D. If your use case is both gaming and productivity, get the 9950X3D. If your use case is strictly productivity then the 9950X is for you.

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There is no place for the 9900X3D lol

real edge
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5800x3d still being a near top cpu is really funny

sharp star
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I would not recommend getting the 9950X3D if you only meet one of those criteria though

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It has to be both imo

real edge
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im glad they fixed the problems the 7950x3d had

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with the CCD stuff and u had to park some of your cores and such for games

sharp star
pine thistle
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I wonder if MS uses it internally

sharp star
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Probably mandated

potent arrow
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I haaate teams

lost python
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My team lead is visiting our office this week and he is sitting facing me and I am struggling so hard to not fall asleep notlikeduck

golden stream
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Though in general, the x3D are all decent for both

wraith agate
odd sand
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Food coma

sly elk
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le gasp cox is selling fiber internet in our neighborhood in vegas now

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that's newwwww

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it's still a ripoff, $70 for 250mbps and $110 for 1gbps but that's a big improvement over their cable internet prices

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LOL even the 1tb plan has a 1.2tb/mo data limit

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man that's so atrocious

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All Cox Internet plans include 1.25 TB (1280 GB) per month of data usage. Additional Data Plans can be added for an additional monthly charge. Excess usage is $10 per additional 50 GB block

odd sand
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I feel like that means it's fake fiber in that it's just fiber for last mile and it still connects to their same network.

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Because otherwise there's no excuse for fiber to be that limited/expensive

sly elk
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it is symmetrical, I think the problem here is the lack of competition

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it's not like fiber suddenly gives them a reason to be cheaper

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they're probably gonna milk that market as much as they can until google fiber launches

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also guh newegg has the asrock steel legend 9070xt for 824 ... bundled with an asrock 1000w gold psu that almost certainly wouldn't sell for more than $100 on ebay.. certainly.....

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yet that's about the same price as the xfx gpu alone LOL

odd sand
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I've just never heard of any fiber offering from a company that also offers cable, nor any fiber that wasn't significantly cheaper than the cable offerings

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eg: ATT Fiber for me is $65 for 500/500 and 80 for 1000/1000

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No contracts either, and no data cap I'm aware of but I'm sure that's within reason

dire viper
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Usually u have line layer

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And then u have ISP

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at least here in salt lake

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The line layer has 15 isp’s that go through them that you ring up and see what the pricing and service is like

sly elk
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in this case their faq page specifically talks about installing new cabling and possibly trenching in the yard

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so it's at least fiber on the end link, but perhaps not upgrading the infrastructure between the neighborhood hubs and their central network? no idea

sharp star
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honestly I think AMD should just cut the x900X3D CPUs out of their lineup and replace them with x600X3Ds and not make them exclusive to one store and/or region

hazy frost
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They should do that but they won’t do that

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More cores sells more cpu

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Intel proved that

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People don’t actually know what they’re getting bc they don’t do research and 12 looks a lot better than 6

sharp star
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bigger number better!!!!!!!!!

hazy frost
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Yeah unfortunately

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The general market being lazy and uneducated on hardware means companies can/have to sell products like that because they somehow still make more money than a better value one would

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All would be fixed with dual CCD cache anyway

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And maybe a X700x3d for am5 eventually

odd sand
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While I think 6 is okay for a budget system, I really feel like 8 is the sweet spot.

dire viper
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It was just dumb that the 5600X3D existed

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And was only at Micro Center

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The really shitty 5800X3D chips had to be put to use ig

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It’s kinda like why does the 5700X3D actually exist think

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I get the whole using up down binned chips but it was just odd

real edge
dire viper
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Yea

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But it’s cheaper cause it was designed that way and was being produced after the 5800X3D stopped production

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Cause presumably it was down binned chips

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Why not just make more chips that you are already making and keep producing the 5800X3D. It is one of the best CPU’s to have been sold for gaming period.

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The price was not an issue for the people using it especially for the performance advantage