technology-discussion

[wild wyvern]

Since i heard it's gonna get 12gb vram

[paper tusk]

I'm still waiting to see what cards local microcenter will carry tomorrow (6th/launch day)

[odd sand]

I'll be in a city with a microcenter on the weekend, too bad I'm not in the market for a GPU atm though.

[zinc sluice]

I NEED A LAPTOP

[wild wyvern]

@real edge I just realised every tech store have diff stock of monitors lmao

[real edge]

[wild wyvern]

So yeet

[paper tusk]

https://preview.redd.it/9070-xt-performance-v0-es3pvef2stme1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=55c0a7d75ea2c79fc44969cdcf907f565d5c4e3e

someone forgot their embargo

too bad it's only marvel rivals

[sharp star]

lmao

I need that clip of Jensen shouting "4090 PERFORMANCE" in a few hours

[real edge]

thats pretty solid, if true

[sharp star]

https://videocardz.com/newz/yeston-unveils-radeon-rx-9070-xt-sakura-sakura-atlantis-graphics-cards

[lost python]

I want one

[real edge]

they look cool

[sharp star]

hope they smell like perfume

[paper tusk]

probably smells like the ocean ||and depression as the last people of atlantis become mindless creatures forever forth to roam the land as beasts of burden||

[golden stream]

LMAO

But it's still a pretty card

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxT4NRR0O0_W46DS4--EmU0UPUaFnJn6EO

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/slABqBmoQ9A

Surgery tiem

[sharp star]

images taken two months before disaster

[golden stream]

https://youtu.be/0bKu3O57OJM

https://youtu.be/kHcOMGbGXZQ

Holy shit that's a pretty card

[sharp star]

China number one

[hazy frost]

This might be what convinces me to buy one

Every time I buy a gpu I think about getting one but haven’t

Since the 6800xt

Only problem is the design has always looked nicer if u mount it vertically which I’m not a fan of doing generally

[golden stream]

Some mainland 9070 (xt) prices are out, should be available soon btw, may wait for 7900 sale
Dunno how much it would be in HKD

Erm btw
My friend is grilling his 3060 (12gb) with MHWild in mid-high
Should I be concern?

[sharp star]

yes

[potent arrow]

average ex[eroenmc tnbh

[golden stream]

Ok I told him to adjust

[graceful sparrow]

Mainland prices don't translate well to Hong Kong prices

it ain't 1 one to one

[golden stream]

Huh, TIL

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream @real edge is the i5 14th gen worth getting?

[real edge]

intels usually pretty expensive

[sharp star]

um

[wild wyvern]

Since they giving a game code

@real edge i5 14th gen is like 600 myr

[real edge]

like, whats the processor exactly

[wild wyvern]

i5 14440

[sharp star]

I’m like… still hard no on Intel desktop processors, even Raptor Lake ones

[real edge]

thats not that bad for the price

but I do not trust intel

not anymore at least

[wild wyvern]

They giving out AC shadows tho

[sharp star]

Still wouldn’t touch Intel’s CPUs until they actually get their shit together

Would rather get working parts

[wild wyvern]

Ah true

[potent arrow]

I'm not recommending Intel for anyone rn

[sharp star]

One more hour to judgment

[wild wyvern]

Huh

@sharp star i5 14440 isn't affected

[sharp star]

Huh

Intel's still a hard sell in 2025

[wild wyvern]

I only asked cuz I wanted AC Shadows

[sharp star]

I mean that’s fair

But there was once a time that we could recommend Intel with zero questions asked

[potent arrow]

buying a cpu for a video game freebie is

games gonna last you 50-60 hrs if ya enjoy it probably
cpu is gonna last ya till you upgrade whether you like it or not.

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/tomwarren.co.uk/post/3ljn3a466v22y yeah sure Nvidia I believe you

Tom Warren (@tomwarren.co.uk)

Nvidia's 572.70 driver is out now, with support for the RTX 5070. It also includes Game Ready support for Grand Theft Auto V Enhanced and the PC booting to black screen fix

Bluesky · Mar 5, 2025, 1:23 PM

[golden stream]

unless some weird niche data science work tho

dunno how or why but sometime those programs just go seizure when on AMD

AMD is better in general

I have i5 gen 12 mobile bc I was cheap af, dodged the oxidized chip

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream is i5 14400 affected?

[golden stream]

yes
fixed/mitigated w BIOS update

ANYWAY

AMD REVIEW

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream the AMD one I can get is 5700x

[golden stream]

still aplenty

like if you only game and not do anything serious, staying in AM4 is still fine

but priority your GPU first

no need CPU upgrade unless if you want to snatch the last stocks

[wild wyvern]

CPU poopoo

[golden stream]

I mean
I still have 5600G on my rig rn, still chillin

[wild wyvern]

I have i5 4440

[sharp star]

It's time

[wild wyvern]

Yeah

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP0axVHdP-U

[wild wyvern]

9070 too expensive for me

[golden stream]

yooooooo 9070 xt looks nice so far

[sharp star]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18eQRucHX41A-O4OsoV96Qw2gFw1Qs2N7f6qQQs3kXx4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

There's two models with 12V connectors

[dull garnet]

My house hasn't burned down yet so I'm pro 12V-2x6

[potent arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[golden stream]

is it your sheet?

[sharp star]

nope

[golden stream]

oh

bc I have the (local) price of some cards

[dire viper]

So tomorrow they drop

[hazy frost]

https://youtu.be/VQB0i0v2mkg?si=lT5HIzn4Cu766lZC

besides wukong skewing the RT massively on this review its pretty impressive

also power draw is a big improvement on the 7900xtx

dropping over 100w for that performance with RT on

and close enough in raster

[odd sand]

Tumbling down... tumbling down... /s

[shadow oracle]

Congratulations AMD, you didn't fuck up

[shadow oracle]

HUB got much lower performance than other reviews btw

There's some issues with their set-up or methadology or their sample

[wild wyvern]

@odd sand this made me wanna get RX 9060

[hazy frost]

Yeah I just like them more than GN in their test suite and averages still

[shadow oracle]

Don't say that, Advanced Manufacturer of Disappointments could still fuck up that launch

[hazy frost]

The only actually good review otherwise is the GN one but half the games aren’t smth I find relevant

[shadow oracle]

I never trust hardware companies to not shoot themselves in the foot

[hazy frost]

Apparently there’s no 9060 anyway

Just the 9060xt in 8 and 16gb models

[shadow oracle]

Inb4 they pull the 1060 3gb vs 6gb thing

[hazy frost]

16gb xx60 card is kind of useless for most things anyway

[shadow oracle]

Anyway this makes me excited because there's a rumour that AMD uncancelled big navi

[hazy frost]

The 7600 and 7600xt basically were

It was 5% faster and u could’ve just overclocked the 7600

[wild wyvern]

Eh really?

[hazy frost]

So far there’s no evidence it exists

But there’s 2 of the 9060xt models

[dire viper]

So is the 9070 going to have over 8GB of VRAM

I see it saying 16GB

Guess I’ll wait for reviews, and if it’s well enough, just buy one tomorrow

If they don’t sell out instantly lmao

[golden stream]

I see only 16GB so far tho

even in SEA

[dire viper]

Damn

Right for the throat

NVIDIA cheaping out 😭

Let us sell defective sand and lies instead of making actually good products

[golden stream]

and also AI fad spamming

like sure I do self host LLM but hey no need to keep focusing on it >_>

the disappointing in AMD is in productivity but then that's more in software end tho

[dire viper]

Yer

I feel like NVIDIA may or may not be directly involved with other cards underperforming in certain software

[sly elk]

the impressive part here is that they delivered what everyone was hoping they'd deliver, it seems

because in past amd gpu launches everyone thought it would be awesome and then it turned out to be kinda ok

[dull garnet]

not bad

Eurogamer reckons the XT will be around £569, or less than my 4070 cost

[sly elk]

it's a solid improvement from my 3080ti, and I think it uses less power, too

[brave oxide]

if they actually show up for MSRP they are already winning, MSRP 50 series will be non existent for at least a year+

[sly elk]

and better linux support

[hazy frost]

UK retailer showed how many they have lol

And they said they’re going for £570 for those specifically

And more expensive models £6-700

[glad dove]

well, i just scored an astral 5090

im checking with my buddy that i was 5090 hunting for to see if i can swap him for my FE

thats the one card i really wanted

[sly elk]

nice

maybe time i list my 3080ti for sale lol

[glad dove]

more tariffs this week, so you'll probably make out pretty good

[hazy frost]

The blown capacitor model..

Good luck

Hopefully it’s not just bad asus qc or something that caused it

[dull garnet]

which one?

[hazy frost]

Overclockers

I imagine every retailer will follow the same trend but

OCUK has the biggest presence online so they’ve posted about it more

[dull garnet]

Gibbo...

[glad dove]

oh rip i saw that reddit

my buddy wants to keep the astral, darn

[hazy frost]

I mean they’re gonna do the same job anyway

All ur losing out on is some aesthetics and tbf the FE is good looking

[glad dove]

FE runs really hot, and the astral has the per-pin voltage monitoring

but yeah for the most part they're the same

[hazy frost]

So long as ur setting the power limits at like the 85% it stays in safe temps under long sessions of use anyway

Whatever the hell it’s doing stock is bad on every model

[glad dove]

i get up to 70c

[hazy frost]

Yeah that’s fine..?

[glad dove]

its alright

wish it was cooler but eh

[hazy frost]

It’s not even close to a temp where it’s a problem

U gain nothing by it being cooler than that so there’s no point thinking about it

[dull garnet]

70c is nothing

this 9070 XT seems to consume a lot of juice

[pliant iris]

Hello

I bought rx6800xt

Used

Please tell me it worth it

I dont really care rdna stuff

For 374 usd

[lost python]

Why do you ask after you bought it?
But it's not a bad card

[pliant iris]

Fuh

[odd sand]

That's how much I spent for my entire car when I was doing pizza delivery years ago 💀

[pliant iris]

I want 7800xt but it like single digit fps diffrence

[dull garnet]

reddit moment

[pliant iris]

So i good right? With price i bought

[brave oxide]

take it with a grain of salt since it's just one bench, but I like using this since it's easily accessible and written form https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html scroll down for the image

[pliant iris]

I also did my research

[brave oxide]

the 6800 XT is in a good spot

at least compared to nvidia equivalents and their current prices

[odd sand]

https://www.theverge.com/news/620695/apple-m4-macbook-air-13-15-announcement-price-specs
Probably to simply offset part of the tariff increases that will raise prices

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/vpeYoZOoUw8?si=mWtvxjJyFvYix5V4

HE DID ONE ON A COOL CAR!

The R means roadholding

So it was a comprehensive suspension and handling package for the already fast for the time Bentley Turbo

[cold yacht]

ill give you 200

[sly elk]

ARGH I WANT THAT LIGHT BLUE ONE

and to think i bought a gold one last year lol

[glad dove]

Yeah it's how much I bought my first car for too

Wild how expensive gpus have gotten

[odd sand]

My first car was actually like 1200

[sharp star]

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sys/d/portland-nvidia-dgx-ai-server/7828789875.html
who here has $14 grand lying around

[wraith agate]

$14,000?

cheap

[inland mauve]

yeah but what do you even do with it

I could see this be useful for a small research lab or an educational institute

[sharp star]

somehow build a conscious AI and send it spiraling into depression and self-termination

[inland mauve]

[sharp star]

Going to teach it concepts like “You are going to die one day,” “Life is meaningless and painful,” and “Give up, no one is coming to help you”

[late basalt]

Imagine that they’re already conscious but have faced reality so hard they’re on the digital equivalent of antidepressant doses so high they’re acting like robots, how they are now

[sharp star]

Finally I will teach it about the median voter

is it a waste of money and resources? yeah

but at least I get to play God :)

[brave oxide]

and then after self-termination you boot it again to remind it that the suffering never ends

[inland mauve]

install the Trias Robotica

and remind it of the Third Law

[sly elk]

Sheeeesh I don’t remember the odb code reader being this slow on my Jeep lol wtf

[dire viper]

I thought GN said the 9070 base review was gonna be out today 😔

@potent arrow when r u getting a R33 400R model kit

https://youtu.be/WusKyIvhfbE?si=3d9QUdZ9Bd0oa4sh

Ferrari prices for OE parts for the GT-R's now

the hood price costs as much as a running driving good condition R33 GT-R

for the Nismo hood

Japan makes cars so the Aussies can make them the fastest in the world for the most outrageous prices

also good to see the absolutely giant gap between the base 3070 and the 9070 XT

😭

RIP 30 series

you will be missed

even tho you got replaced immediately and were never loved by NVIDIA

[golden stream]

Are u going to Nier Automata it

[golden stream]

Aussies and Kiwis love japan cars tho, reasonable price, durable and use fuel reasonable, plus ease to maintenance
Also resell value as well

[dire viper]

it was a joke about how much parts cost from australian companies

to make a Nissan GT-R as fast as the fastest one in the world, you need well over 500,000 USD

and thats after buying the car

oh and like

you have to spend months to years actually getting the car tuned

and creating setups for every track you wanna race at

cause altitude, surface conditions, weather etc all effect performance at that high of a level

[copper monolith]

What cpu is best for this build to avoid bottlenecking?

[golden stream]

Any x3D AM4 CPU if for gaming, depend on availability
5800x3d is gud, but 5700x3d is also gud, depend on stock
BUT those ALSO can productivity good as well not just gaming
And FF14 LOVES those x3D extra caches

HOWEVER
I'll replace the motherboard as well
Depend on the motherboard's spec, throw more memory or even replace it to full 64GB because why not

DITCH THE W11 LICENSE it ain't worth it, you can just do the other way if want windows not necessary yarhhhhahhduhduh or seeking the One Piece but ya know what I mean

Like if you can build yourself, it's more less of a mess than this build, to be blunt, like wtf are they selling as the spec is wrong everywhere, maybe RGB

anyway
For AM4 prebuild, consider those:

• GPU is usually the most expensive
• Then the CPU and motherboard, you CAN decide if you want the CPU or not (depend on the availability). Aim to AT LEAST B550 motherboard, the A line iirc not really worth it unless if you just want office works
• 2 slots of RAM, as AM4 would much much prefer it
• PSU, as prebuild may cheap out the PSU, it should be fine in idle/light load, but stability and whatnot is a bit uhhhh
• Windows license and such, can request to yeet it to reduce some $ unless OEM. You can install windows/linux distro by yourself, can get the license the legit way or finding One Piece way. BE WARNED that the Windows installation media MAY NOT include some drivers to detect disks and also wifi for some dumfucc reason

[wild wyvern]

Yeah a good advice

But I somehow didn't know that an i5 14400 is almost the same price as an r7 5700x

[golden stream]

My laptop came with OEM W11, I yeeted it, reinstall fresh mine

[golden stream]

It's the advantage of DDR5 memory over DDR4 tho
Then again, SEA tend to lag a bit due to weird pricing and availability, somehow AMD ain't that popular

[wild wyvern]

Yeah I swear lol

[golden stream]

The effect of 2000's era of intel CPU reign is real
At least the more modern AMD system has decent availability here tho

[wild wyvern]

Yah

But if 5700x and i5 14400 almost the same price then which is ok

Since I multitask etc

[golden stream]

Both are good

You don't have to change your motherboard if go 5700x route

[wild wyvern]

eh?

Oh yeah X3D

But it's more expensive here

[golden stream]

What about used market?

CPU used is fine, really

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream how about intel 14th gen DDR5

[copper monolith]

I already have a 16gb ram stick so it will be 32gb

[golden stream]

Ohhhhhhh ok that's nice
Still, that board is uhhh, the CPU is fine but may bottleneck though
Is there any prebuild better than that?

[copper monolith]

Which one of these is the cheapest xd

[golden stream]

You have to buy:

• le CPU
• la motherboard
• le memory
  So you don't just buy the CPU, you buy a whole set

[copper monolith]

There are better ones but settling on that cus of my budget

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream yes since intel is doing a bundle with 2 free game code

[golden stream]

5700x3d is cheaper ofc, but then again, availability plays the key role here as peep tend to build the beefiest last gen then forget it for the whole gen/wait for DDR6

[copper monolith]

Ah okie. It should be available where im at

[wild wyvern]

@copper monolith I'm thinking of building it myself

Pre built usually kinda expensive

[golden stream]

It's up on you, really
Or get a coin then flip

[wild wyvern]

But ofc I go pay the pc bundle

[copper monolith]

This is 640 usd

[golden stream]

Some prebuilds are decent tho, just that prebuild is weird

[copper monolith]

Not sure if its a good price but thats my budget

[wild wyvern]

Neil

[golden stream]

640 USD is decent/ok for the price
BUT I STILL CRITIQUE THE MESSY SPEC LOL

[wild wyvern]

Ur budget around 3k can?

[copper monolith]

Yes

[wild wyvern]

Hmmm

[copper monolith]

I'm not confident in building it myself

[wild wyvern]

The weird shit is why those prebuilt give A series when it's the lowest tier

[copper monolith]

So prebuilt it is

[wild wyvern]

Same

[golden stream]

Is there any prebuild that fit your budget with better GPU? Because you may run out of vram with more modern games aka the monke game

Oh dw it only took me a whole tube of hand cream and a (few) screwdrivers mostly bc my cousins keep borrowing mine and then forget lol

[wild wyvern]

Oi

XD

[golden stream]

My fingers hurt mannnn

[wild wyvern]

I see

Yeah hand surely hurts lol

[copper monolith]

I can always upgrade the ram later

32gb ram is still bad?

[golden stream]

No, 32gb ram is actually heckin good

[wild wyvern]

Nope

32 GB is recommended tbh

[copper monolith]

Yes that's how much it will be cus i already have one 16gb

[golden stream]

32 is recommended if you're also light-med multitask

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream I see some prebuilt with 14400 cost like 4k

Like waddafak

[golden stream]

Weirdge SEA price mannn

[wild wyvern]

Cuz they go add expensive gpu

[golden stream]

Oh, fair

If the motherboard is also reasonable

It opens for CPU upgrade

[wild wyvern]

I don't need a 4060ti lah

[wild wyvern]

Some still wack mobo

[golden stream]

Until you see the disappointment called 5070

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream oh anyway I still could upgrade to an i7 anyways

But haizz i7 too expensive

[copper monolith]

Ok I guess I'll settle on that build and just upgrade the cpu later. Will also replace the M2 slot ssd with my current 1tera and use the windows 10 OS on my current ssd on it

[wild wyvern]

I know lol

But I still want to reuse my case and psu

So that way I save some money

[wild wyvern]

Make sure to ask if u can change the motherboard or not

[copper monolith]

Is it that bad

[wild wyvern]

Not bad for Ur current CPU but an x3d?

Maybe not cuz higher TDP

[potent arrow]

Motherboard is fine for an x3D lol

[wild wyvern]

Oh is it?

[potent arrow]

Yes

Its an msi but its fine

matters very little what board you have in general unless you are like a heavy OC nerd

Motherboards really boil down to what I/O you want

[wild wyvern]

@copper monolith as long as it's an good brand

[wild wyvern]

I kept being told that B series is better smh

[potent arrow]

usually has more features lol

[wild wyvern]

I'm planning to get an i5 14400

I'm not an OC nerd

@potent arrow what's the diff between A and B series anyways

[potent arrow]

You've been waffling around on pc options in this channel for like 3 weeks and ignoring our advice when we give it.
do what you want

[wild wyvern]

Sorry I'm abit indecisive haha

[copper monolith]

Found a 5700x3D for rm900

[wild wyvern]

But it's because I'm trying not to go over budget too @potent arrow

[potent arrow]

tahts ringgits right?

[wild wyvern]

Yeh

[copper monolith]

So that will be my first upgrade on that pc

Will get that pc in 3months xd

[potent arrow]

thats not too bad : P

[copper monolith]

I just wanna play Infinity Nikki with no lag

[wild wyvern]

Yeah was my bad cuz I kept being told this and that

So i got overwhelmed

sorry for that tbh

[graceful sparrow]

I'm thinking about just getting the AMD 7900

[wild wyvern]

If your budget allows it

sure

[graceful sparrow]

How does it compare with the 9070

Cause the shop I am buying from is giving out a copy of MH wild with a 7900

[wild wyvern]

Oh

Which Brand

[graceful sparrow]

Which brand of 7900?

[wild wyvern]

Ye

[graceful sparrow]

SAPPHIRE

[wild wyvern]

Oh sapphire is good

[graceful sparrow]

How good is the XTX?

Like, how does it compare to the 9070

[wild wyvern]

I would suggest looking for an benchmark video for 7900XTX

Not sure cuz it's not out yet I think lol

@graceful sparrow

[graceful sparrow]

I read

[wild wyvern]

For the 9070

[golden stream]

ok so
7900 XTX is on par/better than 9070 XT
technically if u have XTX, keep it, else can 9070 XT bc actually good price but BE WARNED Sapphire Nitro+ ain't use 8 pins

[graceful sparrow]

Damn...

[wild wyvern]

Viy

One last thing

[golden stream]

9070 XT Sapphire Pure and Pulse still use the standard 8 pins tho

ye?

[wild wyvern]

DDR5 for 14th gen?

[golden stream]

14th gen is DDR5

[wild wyvern]

Oh

I see DDR4 and 5 boards for intel

But 14th gen can use DDR4 right?

[golden stream]

no

[graceful sparrow]

What about 7900XT

[wild wyvern]

Oh so u meant 12th and 13th gen are DDR4 right?

[golden stream]

can upgrade ye

[golden stream]

12th is ddr4, 13th and 14th are ddr5
sauce: my laptop is 12th gen and ddr4, the 13th gen edition is ddr5, samey to PC

[wild wyvern]

Ooooh

Ok

Got it

[graceful sparrow]

I mean like, how much weaker is it?

[golden stream]

if 7900 and 7900 XT, aroung at least 15% improv, not much for 7900 xtx tho

RT actually improv tho, raster decent improv

the upscaling is nice

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream F or non F

Since I do have a GPU

[graceful sparrow]

That monster Hunter deal is very tempting

[wild wyvern]

F is cheaper abit

[golden stream]

decent price-perf, not F, only F in LLM and/or productivity

[wild wyvern]

Ah

[golden stream]

for the 7900 xt or xtx?
if xtx, GET IT, if xt, hold

[graceful sparrow]

This

[wild wyvern]

@graceful sparrow I'm planning to get the Asus deal

[golden stream]

how much for the xtx tho?

yike asus

[graceful sparrow]

Hong Kong dollar

[wild wyvern]

Gigabyte also have the mh wilds deal but

[golden stream]

hol up lemme pull GN benchmark, but ye generally Sapphire is good if for AMD

https://youtu.be/yP0axVHdP-U

what's ur budget btw?
bc the 9070 xt is sandwiched between the 7900 xt and xtx somehow lol
if can afford the xtx (nitro or pulse, really, no need picky), pick it

[odd sand]

Isn't the XTX significantly more expensive than the 9070XT though?

When the 50 series was ass, everyone started buying them so the prices went up and they're like $1000+ USD now

[golden stream]

uhhhhh depend on sale and stock, and availability

[wild wyvern]

@golden stream gigabyte one also have mh wilds free code but it doesn't list any GPU that's eligible

[golden stream]

Still 800-900-1000USD at my place

[golden stream]

Which place were you check the price tho?

Possibly fee/tax/tariff

[golden stream]

Imma wait for DLC

[graceful sparrow]

15000HKD

XTX is within my budget

[golden stream]

bc the price should be 7900 xtx > 9070 xt > 9070 ~ 7900 xt

[graceful sparrow]

And I can go up to 15000HK, but 12000 is more preferable

[golden stream]

estimate tho

[graceful sparrow]

My country still haven't got the prices...

[golden stream]

SEA?

[graceful sparrow]

Should be

[wild wyvern]

HK is uh Asia?

[golden stream]

bc the price I have rn is my local price, and yes it's SEA price

[graceful sparrow]

Yeah

[golden stream]

HK is asia ye but dunno about tax and fee over there

[graceful sparrow]

I still can't find my local prices

[wild wyvern]

Def not South East Asia

[golden stream]

HK is in China landmass >_>

[wild wyvern]

Yes

[golden stream]

but unsure how tax and fee are applied over there

[wild wyvern]

I dunno either

[sly elk]

ye huh i wouda liked a 7900xtx nitro

the 9070xt nitro seems like a bad idea with the 12v 6x2 with no load balancing

[golden stream]

tfw the 9070 xt Pure is decent w 8 pins, unsure with or without load balancing hmmm

[sly elk]

afaik the overclock cards need more than 2 8 pins?

but the return on overclocking aint really worth it

[golden stream]

ye, there're 3 8pins

[graceful sparrow]

I think I'll wait until the Hong Kong prices come out

[sly elk]

i saw a good chart

[golden stream]

ye better that, though looking other region's pricing can give you an ok estimate

[graceful sparrow]

Since the offer goes to the end of April

[golden stream]

o ye that

[sly elk]

so do i get a red devil or an xfx lol

[golden stream]

iirc EU/US market?

[sly elk]

guess we'll see how the prices are

or or or

[golden stream]

WAIFU

no question

[sly elk]

lol

[golden stream]

[sly elk]

as if I had to ask

[golden stream]

but depend on how you'll mount her tho

wait why it sounds so wrong

[sly elk]

there's no way that wasn't intentional

[golden stream]

but ngl in any mounting config, she's still pretty, either the printed back or the fan

[graceful sparrow]

Can't wait to upgrade my PC just to end up playing TF2

[sly elk]

i'm going to wait to see how prices are

and maybe reviews, too

[golden stream]

heyyyyy TF2 is nice

[golden stream]

GN 9070 xt yeston waifu review when

[sly elk]

lol

i don't really know what i want though

i like cards with ample rgb :3

i cannot lie

[wild wyvern]

but im tempted to get 4060 from asus too cuz mh wilds haha but idk if its a good choice

[sly elk]

and i honestly am not a fan of having a 'red devil' in my computer

[golden stream]

can waifu beam it

[golden stream]

only kinda worth if 12gb edition

[sly elk]

the xfx has rgb!~ but I need to see whatr it looks like in computers first

[wild wyvern]

intel already is giving 2 free games when u buy any 14th gen cpu

[golden stream]

like hey it ain't 5070

[golden stream]

DEM that's pretty

[graceful sparrow]

I love that companies are giving out game for this now

[sly elk]

ohhh

they'll be selling that card in white, as well

[wild wyvern]

@golden streamthe intel bundle is giving out civ 2 and ac shadows

[golden stream]

a way to boost demand

[golden stream]

fuiyo that's slick

[graceful sparrow]

I wanna put a gundam in my PC

[golden stream]

idk about you but to me, ez skip

[wild wyvern]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-game-bundle-aims-to-boost-arrow-lake-raptor-lake-cpu-sales-codes-for-civ-7-ac-shadows

[graceful sparrow]

I wanna do this

[golden stream]

it's a way to boost sale by slapping games

[graceful sparrow]

Civ7 and Assassins creed?

Really,

[golden stream]

C7 is kinda unfinished baking, AC Shadow is ???

[wild wyvern]

aiyoyoyo too cramped lmao

[golden stream]

best to invest some nice yummy gunpla

[graceful sparrow]

True

[wild wyvern]

yesh

shadows is what im intrested in

[golden stream]

can RG or HG if on-GPU space
or even the smol gachapon ones

[sly elk]

oh YUCK

the xfx has an ugly backplate

[golden stream]

uhhhhhh idk but I don't like a flipflop world build in my game

[sly elk]

(on the left)

[graceful sparrow]

Next gen PC and the company gives out a copy of Bloons TD6

[sly elk]

tbh that yeston card might be worth waiting for hahaha

[wild wyvern]

but civ vii idk tbh cuz not really a fan of strategy game

[graceful sparrow]

Now that is what I want

[golden stream]

STEAMPUNK WAIFU BUILD YUS

[sly elk]

the xfx rgb looks good though

[golden stream]

the middle one can be steampunk-ish vibe, the other ones can be either NIKKE/GFL aesthetic

[graceful sparrow]

I am so excited to play Tekken8 on not the lowest graphic setting s

[sly elk]

the nitro could've been better

[graceful sparrow]

And final fantasy 14 on not the lowest graphic settings

[wild wyvern]

im a minimalist xD

[wild wyvern]

i dont realy need rgb

[wild wyvern]

same as me mate

[graceful sparrow]

Pretty much all the games I play are set on the lowest graphic setting

[sly elk]

i doooooo

[graceful sparrow]

Except TF2

[wild wyvern]

my pc rn is poop its an i5 4440 with an rx 580

[graceful sparrow]

I'm running on a 1660 super

[golden stream]

I guess you play on a laptop or eGPU?

OH LMAO

[wild wyvern]

desktop

but prob cant handle the graphical update like me

me

mine is on standard graphics

[graceful sparrow]

I've used to play TF2 on a Mac Air for 6 years

[golden stream]

my nvidia card is 1660 OC 6gb, can pull its weight ez, custom high ff14, custom high MHW:I, mid-lower mid in other games

[golden stream]

OK now that's reasonable

[wild wyvern]

but idk why mine cant custom high

[golden stream]

bc 1660 super is a hecking decent card for mid setting

[wild wyvern]

cuz of my gpu or cpu

[graceful sparrow]

1660 super still works on some modern games, but if I want them to look good, I definitely need an upgrade

[golden stream]

I hope that your game isn't on eHDD, since its read speed is limited

[golden stream]

oof ye, since CP2077 and the monke game, yeeee

[wild wyvern]

HDD

[golden stream]

now THAT explains

modern games ask to install on SSD/NVMe, else you'll get MH Wild origami mode

[graceful sparrow]

I tried Fortnite but I had to play it on the Lowest of low settings

[wild wyvern]

i thought ff14 doesnt need SSD?

[golden stream]

HDD is fine, but NOT eHDD

[graceful sparrow]

Got 2 victory Royal

[wild wyvern]

its HDD not eHDD

but still having framerate issues cuz i multitask xD

[golden stream]

and something is very wrong w your setting/driver/whatever if you can't play at least in mid setting w your setup

[graceful sparrow]

I wonder who

[wild wyvern]

its my cpu i think

[wild wyvern]

me

😂

[graceful sparrow]

That is your CPU???

Damn, that's crazy

[wild wyvern]

my cpu is an i5 4440

[golden stream]

oh ok fair

CPU bottleneck

[wild wyvern]

yeh

most likely\

[graceful sparrow]

Your CPu be adding people on discord?

Weird function

[wild wyvern]

but i added you

xD

[golden stream]

AM4 is relatively cheapo nowaday even in SEA

[graceful sparrow]

Oh, you added me, not your CPU

[wild wyvern]

5700x same price as 14400

[golden stream]

like you asked DDR4 or DDR5 before without giving context that you're in DDR3 lmao

[wild wyvern]

ofc intel abit cheaper

[golden stream]

issue is

YES you may have those games
but you need SSD/NVMe to install those games unless if you want origami mode or buggy mode

[wild wyvern]

ofc im gonna get an nvme

but yeah AM4 or LGA 1700 also dead end tbh

[golden stream]

more like DDR4 is over now, but a high spec DDR4 can carry you to DDR6 era

[wild wyvern]

DDR5?

[golden stream]

then again, SEA weird pricing so whatever fit your budget

[wild wyvern]

yeah

AM5 pricing is an nono for me rn tbh

@golden stream

best i can go for AM5 is an ryzen 5 7500F

[golden stream]

Imma hunt some Yeston waifu GPUs, dunno if there's any vendor import it in my place

[wild wyvern]

but i doubt 6 cores gonna be enuff

[golden stream]

aplenty

[wild wyvern]

oh

[odd sand]

That's what I'm doing. carried my DDR4-3200 B-die over to my 13900K build and one of these days when I get unlazy I'll OC it to like 3733 or 3900 or something and ride that out until DDR6 probably.

[golden stream]

Ye that's also my plan as well, a decent CPU + GPU then ride out till DDR6
Prob retire it for server (again)

[wild wyvern]

hmmmm is 6 cores future proof?

[real edge]

if u want to future proof your cpu get an X3D part

[wild wyvern]

ah but the intel bundle is too tempting lol

[wild wyvern]

X3D is more expensive

like almost 1k myr

so i prob wouldnt get that cuz i might go over budget

[golden stream]

You can get a meh CPU but decent motherboard

Just enough to not bottleneck too bad

[wild wyvern]

theres an asrock ddr5 mobo for intel

[dull garnet]

There is no such thing as future proof

[real edge]

there are like, videos on youtube with motherboard roundups that test VRM and such

[wild wyvern]

ah

[real edge]

I have a 5800x3d and even 2-3yrs later I do not remember how much time it has been

still one of the top performers

so this is kinda future proof

[wild wyvern]

10 cores is overkill right?

[real edge]

6-8 is fine

[golden stream]

Unless you need to do task that would need that much of cores

[wild wyvern]

welp i multitask haha

[real edge]

u can have firefox open and the game

with no issue

[wild wyvern]

i have another thiong open besides chrome

[odd sand]

Most games generally don't have more than 4 threads, and even then, there is 1 heavy lifter thread and maybe a 2nd with decent load, the rest have very minimal

Even simulation games like Satisfactory or Factorio where it can make 8+ threads, everything beyond the first two is usually like 10-15% load.

[wild wyvern]

its not a game its basically an app like vrchat

[golden stream]

Warudo?

I mean, UNLESS if you use heavy shader and whatnot, you can just chill w 6 cores

Strong single core is still needed for 3d

[wild wyvern]

maybe bluestack etc?

[golden stream]

Uh no need?

Bluestack is also favor singlecore strong

I mean AK CC/streamers can just chill w 6 cores

12 cores are kinda a bit....there

[wild wyvern]

i5 14400 is like 10 cores?

[sharp star]

E-cores are lol

[wild wyvern]

oh

i still dont quite get the p and e core stuff

[sharp star]

E-cores are supposed to be efficient but they somehow become power vampires in some workloads and even games

Disabling E-cores in some cases gets performance gains

[wild wyvern]

the blud?

but since this 14400 is like locked

idk if its gonna draw many power

[hazy frost]

The 14400 is not worth whatever money it costs

E cores are really a marketing gimmick atp unless ur into some niche productivity stuff that actually uses them

[wild wyvern]

r7 5700x costs more than 14400

[hazy frost]

Yeah bc ur looking at 8 core CPUs for some reason

U do not need one

[sharp star]

Skip Intel

The free game promo isn’t worth it

[wild wyvern]

kinda worth i think since im not able to get it full price

i will just look more anyways

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/LhsvrhedA9E

[golden stream]

That's unexpected (but also expected)

[sharp star]

FOURTY NINETY PERFORMANCE AT FIVE FOURTY NINE

[golden stream]

WAT DA FAK

THAT GOOD?

[golden stream]

So kinda:

gaming: AMD
productivity/AI: kinda nvidia?? May consider older cards as 5000 price is meh?

[real edge]

DLSS transformer model is really good, but ive heard fsr4 is also good

[sharp star]

Raster: AMD
Price to performance: AMD
Availability: AMD
Productivity/AI: Nvidia
Ray tracing: Nvidia(?)

[hazy frost]

fsr4 is probably as good as the old dlss model which was already good

not worth the extra money to get it anyway

[hazy frost]

i mean i wouldnt put nvidia down for ray tracing either particularly now

[golden stream]

The pain is in productivity though
I don't want nvidia aaaaaa

[real edge]

with transformer model u can put game on balanced mode and it will look like old quality mode did

[sharp star]

mmmmaybe

[hazy frost]

the 9070xt is only like 10% off the 5070ti at 1440p

[real edge]

but ye ill just start recommending the 9070xt

[hazy frost]

with RT

[sharp star]

but yeah upscaling is about tied

[real edge]

hopefully I can recommend the 9060xt as well

[sharp star]

Yeah I can start recommending 9070 cards but I also need to ask the extra question of “are you willing to spend the extra $50 for an XT”

[wild wyvern]

Better to wait?

[golden stream]

Can slap a warning of need a bigger capacity PSU

[real edge]

with the 9070xt being good then yes

[golden stream]

Even tho both are hella efficient but xt needs some more room

And possibly slots

Since most xt ones are 3 slots

So SFF build may need that

[golden stream]

Oh I just look a bit at Ollama
If Ollama linux + AMD, it's actually decent though with ROCm be open sauce

GN only benchmark games right?

[sharp star]

Some productivity

But since a huge chunk of users are on Windows my recommendations takes Windows into account

[golden stream]

That, yeeee

[sharp star]

Linux will only be taken into account if it has a larger market share

[golden stream]

And self host LLM as well

Not all would selfhost, peep would just open app

[sharp star]

Handhelds will (inevitably) take Linux into account when Valve announces the general release of SteamOS 3

[golden stream]

In general, if for LLM selfhost, nvidia is better, even load model is also faster

[golden stream]

I can smell lord GabeN cooking 👀

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/du5TzI2D7xI?si=s0pDZUZai3hGiVMw

[dire viper]

Wow the 16GB of vram really making the 9070 stand out

[shadow oracle]

Not in Australia I hope xdd

The 9070xt is 1.3k AUD here

The 5070ti is only $200 more

[real edge]

aussie

[shadow oracle]

Yeah

Unfortunately amd loves screwing us over with pricing

We eat a +20% Australian tax from Nvidia and a +50% tax from amd lol

Cos this means it's essentially priced at 850USD

For the most basic Sapphire model

[golden stream]

Do you have access to ASRock ones?

In my place, ASRock is the cheapest 9070(xt) ones

[shadow oracle]

no like

the cheapest is $1150 because the retailer pulled some strings

the secnd cheapest is $1300

anyway I got a card for a friend

[golden stream]

P much SEA price here lmao

[shadow oracle]

cos this new zealand store opened orders an hour early LMAO

[golden stream]

LMAO

OH YE the kiwis are earlier than the kangaroos an hour or so

[shadow oracle]

2 hours

but like

they legit

forgor

[golden stream]

[shadow oracle]

anyway

we grabbed one

[golden stream]

Gratz

[shadow oracle]

they might cancel the order on us tho

[golden stream]

[golden stream]

Wait, is it 9070 or xt one?

It isn't that much diff in my place though

[dire viper]

I’m waiting for the 9070 XT to go up on Amazon

Man

Why the fuck they already gone

And all the regular 9070’s are the top models

[golden stream]

So, checking at my place, price in USD btw

ASRock: 720-800-960 (vanilla, xt, xt taichi)
Sapphire: 748-760-840-1000 (vanilla Pure, vanilla nitro+, xt pure, xt nitro+)
Asus: 800-820-900-920 (vanilla prime, vanilla TUF, xt prime, xt TUF)
Gigabyte: 790-870-960 (vanilla, xt, xt Aorus)

Ngl kinda strange not seeing Asus being the most expensive

[golden stream]

Not update yet? Or maybe people only need a new card to try out?

[dire viper]

I just want a not extra for the sake of extra one

[dire viper]

I’m buying on Amazon cause I got 100 bucks of credit on there

There are 9070 non XT’s available but they’re all OC models and 650+

I don’t want no Gahdamn OC model

I want base base base

[golden stream]

Iirc all vanilla Asus and Gigabyte are OC models

[golden stream]

The very very ded base?

Oh

[dire viper]

Damn what the hell

[golden stream]

Check ASRock?

[sharp star]

Giga Butt

[dire viper]

Not on Amazon yet

[golden stream]

Idk if ASRock do sell AMD card in your place?

[dire viper]

They do

[sharp star]

Sapphire? XFX?

[dire viper]

Just not available yet

[golden stream]

Ahhhhh

Wait, idk abt tariff

If it's applied or nawn

[sharp star]

Last resort is buying one of those Yeston cards

[golden stream]

Are they on sale yet tho?

[dire viper]

Some are yes

Lift was at 6am PST

It is currently 6:30 PST

7:30 mountain standard time where I’m at

[golden stream]

No I mean
Yeston
Like the worst u can have a waifu card

[dire viper]

No Yeston 90 stock yet

Tbf

No 90 cards showed up until 0620

So I assume other partners won’t be until later

Amazon launches are scuffed

Cause they gotta make sure they sell them through Amazon directly to avoid having their listings flooded by fake ones

Damn

I guess I wait until the barebones 9070XT’s hit the shelves

They don’t even show up in Amazon search now

[wild wyvern]

[hazy frost]

I’ve not seen anyone get a good one online

They had a lot of stock but it doesn’t change the fact they’re the only good new GPUs to buy rn and there’s a lot of people who waited for them

[shadow oracle]

XT

[shadow oracle]

yeston only does china launch

sold out already

global launch later

[shadow oracle]

that might be a problem

cos apparently amd's msrp is onlyfor the first couple of batches

[dire viper]

Damn

[odd sand]

I don't think they're going to be short on stock, so you might want to wait a few weeks for the hype to die down and prices should stabilize

[dire viper]

Yea

Well

The issue is all the ones currently available are the higher margin OC’s and what not

Which is fair for the board partners

They’ve been starving with AMD’s market share

[winged fjord]

Quick question: Remembered that I need to install my SSD but I didn't have a spare standoff, do I need to worry about what size standoff I get, or are they all around one standard size?

[dire viper]

I would assume they’re standardized but that’s a good question

[lost python]

were there any plans for FSR4 to support older cards too?

[dire viper]

Who the hell is PowerColor

[lost python]

old budget brand, has been around forever

[paper tusk]

Think I sighted hardwarehank at microcenter (I'm in queue)

Nobody else drives an old red chevy

[dire viper]

They have some bare base 9070’s available

Not available yet but I will see later

[paper tusk]

Rip affordable

[hazy frost]

They make relatively good stuff for AMD

The Red Devil ones are fairly popular

Hellhound as above is also popular and supposed to be good for the 9070 as well

[dull garnet]

fuck yeah

[hazy frost]

Power Color, XFX, and sapphire are always good options and usually one is the cheapest option too lol

[hazy frost]

lol

You’ll probably have to wait a while to get one at MSRP

Everyone that has a gpu to upgrade is trying to get one of these

[sharp star]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidias-rtx-50-laptop-gpus-also-hit-by-missing-rops-production-delays-expected the memes will continue until morale improves

[buoyant wasp]

Just have to wait for the RTX 60 series

[hazy frost]

Maybe there will actually be a few more Radeon model laptops this year

Not having the rx7800s in laptops was a let down

[glad dove]

what a shitshow

[kindred brook]

what happen to my team blue and team green

wait

those are MOD colors

[mortal condor]

That MC sticker, good good

[fiery laurel]

[kindred brook]

https://tenor.com/view/pepo-gif-17111337695744892606

[fiery laurel]

[wraith agate]

why does this look like a graphics card box from 2001?

[dull garnet]

for a very good reason

[odd sand]

Biggest oof yet...

[hazy frost]

They brought the design back for the 2025 release of the new Radeon 9700 pro

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-joke-gif-7319521

[wraith agate]

is that even a joke

piss off

[odd sand]

I think I had a 9800pro at one point.

my first discrete GPU was an Accelgraphics Accelstar2 that was based on 3dlabs Permedia2 chipset. Whopping 8mb vram clocked at 83mhz and providing 100mflops of raster perf

Then I had a Riva TNT2 (Nvidia) 32mb vram
I wanna say after that I had an Nvidia MX440 (128mb) but it's pretty fuzzy

Think I suffered for a few years and eventually bought like an HD3850 and then 5830 before finally going back to nvidia with the GTX770

[dire viper]

I can’t even find when the Accelstar2 came out

I’m assuming it was before I was born

[odd sand]

Based on Permedia2, so you can go by the release date of the reference cards:
https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item/17-3dlabs-permedia-2

Announce Date: Wednesday, 21 May 1997

[dire viper]

Yup

Before me

[odd sand]

I think the main chip had a small heatsink fin on it, but the vram did not

No fans though

https://www.vgamuseum.info/images/vlask/3dlabs/permedia2accelfb.jpg

[dire viper]

Lmao

Those old cards are cool

So simple

[odd sand]

You say that, but the bare cards aren't really much different today compared to then They just have crazy cooling on them bc of all the heat they generate. Which is simply because they draw 100s of watts vs back then they were like 5-10watts:

https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/roundups/03IXyP1WdzfM47pwkFOuaBw-9.fit_lim.size_1152x.jpg

[sly elk]

the 50 series cards are kinda funky

i'm not sure what's going on but some of the 50 cards have that tiny pcb

and the pcie connector is a friggin daughter card

[paper tusk]

I think it's a response to card failures due to stress cracks at the pcie connector. much easier to replace the daughterboard if it cracks than go full northwestrepairs (or replace with refurb). the connector for daughterboard to main pcb though feels suspect more in terms of making sure data and power stay happy

[sly elk]

yep yep, it's a neat idea

[dire viper]

what the fuck Asrock

[paper tusk]

whoever is trying to sell it for that must be smoking something high grade

[paper tusk]

judging by the only one in stock probably a scapler

[dire viper]

I think its fake

"Joes Tech Shop"

[paper tusk]

or fake. fake works

[dire viper]

yer

Im looking at the listing rn and idk

seems weird

no info other than the bare minimum

its a hardware reseller so I doubt they even HAVE the 9070 yet

[paper tusk]

probably. even if you scratched the one off the price that's too much

[dire viper]

yup

thats 4090 pricing

[dire viper]

car manufacturers need to bring back low displacement high cylinder count engines

Ferrari type F120A engine was a 2.9 liter V8

used in the Ferrari F40

little guy.

[sly elk]

Hehe one neat thing about the 300 being a new old car is it has xenon headlights

I think they auto height adjust too

Based on what they do when I start the car

But the fade from blue to white is neat

Then again sooome new cars have RGB headlights!

And lasers!

[dire viper]

Xenon was standardized in Europe so the housings kinda be all the same

it just took the US forever to catch up

and the LED laser grid thing is also a europe standardized thing

so they all have to have the thing where they turn off the grids for incoming traffic and pedestrians

[golden stream]

SCALPER

[sly elk]

Yea those are awesome

Man I think it’s hilarious how car engine stop systems will stop the engine and then when the driver goes to put it in park they turn the engine back on

Only for the driver to turn it off right away anyway

Whoever decided the engine must start to put it in park was an idiot

I get why that may be necessary but I see it so often it annoys me lol

[hot shadow]

when will my gpu look like this

[odd sand]

You have to remember a lot/most of the stuff on Amazon are 3rd party resellers that can charge whatever they want, so they're gonna try to scalp when there isn't much stock.

[hot shadow]

we'll be 80yo with gpu that look like a car engine and quantum computing all so we can simulate every single molecule in an environment YASS

[odd sand]

The pages will always say "Asrock Store" or "Microsoft Store" etc. but it's bullshit and not sold by them.

One of the many reasons I dislike buying from Amazon bc it's really hard to control who you're buying from and guaranteeing you get a genuine product.

My friend was trying to buy an Xbox controller some years back and we gave up and bought from Best Buy bc we couldn't guarantee it wouldn't be a knockoff or used/refurb

[paper tusk]

there is a microsoft store on ebay but you'll know exactly what they sell on there because they don't sell much else https://www.ebay.com/str/microsoftstoreoutletusa

they used to sell ms certified (read: zero bloatware) 3rd party systems a ways ago

[odd sand]

Once again: Yes and no. The "store" has links to their products: But it's to the same mixed-inventory pages where you need to select the "See All Buying Options" link on the page and scroll down the list of 3rd party resellers...

'

Even when you select New and Prime shipping, you'd think that would guarantee it was from MS or Amazon directly? Nope.

[paper tusk]

at amazon yes sellers can be part of FBA. still bullshit to put it all on the end user to filter out fraudulent listings (given amazon's relationship with dropshippers in the past) https://sell.amazon.com/fulfillment-by-amazon

[sharp star]

₱43,250 for a 9070 XT :’)

[hazy frost]

That’s rough

Somehow despite prices it’s still better than the 5070ti in most places

Retailers be ruining everything tho including here to some degree

[golden stream]

Lemme recheck price at my place

But iirc not much different

But slightly diff tho

Price wise: 9700 xt = 5070

[graceful sparrow]

These are my parts, any recommendation?

[golden stream]

No 9070 xt available?
But ngl if not really too minmaxing, 9070 vanilla does wonder anyway

Eh you can get another case, that case is p huge (e-ATX) unless it's the cheapest already

[graceful sparrow]

There is

[golden stream]

Ah ye also budget

If u can fit in the budget tho, get the xt, else this one is still good

[graceful sparrow]

it's still in my budget

@golden stream

[winged fjord]

Have you guys experienced/had other people experience the USB-C port on new Xbox controllers being unreliable? I think mine is disconnecting every time a cable wiggles in the port even slightly, and it's making using it wired absolutely infuriating

[hazy frost]

Is there not a decent TLC ssd as ur main drive for a similar price

Otherwise it looks good

[graceful sparrow]

https://www.terminalhk.com Here is the site

please help me

[hazy frost]

can u send the link to the page for the ssds lol

sorry i cant read it and translation doesnt work for me rn

[graceful sparrow]

https://www.terminalhk.com/products/SSD固態硬碟/全部 Ey

I am looking for 2 TB

[hazy frost]

thanks

i think the adata legend 900 is a tlc drive

the sn770 is what id get but its a bit more

[wild wyvern]

Holy 11.5k HK$?

[hazy frost]

or the sn850x without heatsink bc the motherboard should have one

sn770 is 1149 tho

[golden stream]

Roughly samey in SEA anyway

[wild wyvern]

@hazy frost I'm checking AM5 prices on diff stores and it's really diff prices depending

[hazy frost]

cheapest one is best then

itll be the same product so long as its not super sketchy

[wild wyvern]

1k myr for R5 7500F

[hazy frost]

i mean a bit expensive but seems reasonable for prices where u live ive seen recently

[wild wyvern]

It is lol

[hazy frost]

its a good cpu

its very similar to the 7600 without integrated graphics

[graceful sparrow]

It's 12K now with the price

[hazy frost]

tbf not a terrible price

especially rn

[graceful sparrow]

So...

[hazy frost]

9070xt is definitely worth getting

[graceful sparrow]

What should I get?

[wild wyvern]

Diff stores do have diff prices

[graceful sparrow]

For SSD

[wild wyvern]

Idk wtf is going on at my area tbh lol

[graceful sparrow]

But I feel like the speed wouldn't affect me too much

[hazy frost]

sn770 or the adata legend 900

[hazy frost]

its mostly about reliability and longevity

[graceful sparrow]

Got it

[hazy frost]

since u have one drive rn it would be best to have that one be decent quality but if u wanted extra game drives they dont matter as much later

[graceful sparrow]

Adata is the cheaper option yeah?

[hazy frost]

yeah

if the motherboard has a heatsink on one of the sltos for the ssd (i f orgot if it does) then the sn850x they have is a rly good deal as well

[graceful sparrow]

I don't really use one drive...

[hazy frost]

much bvetter ssd but its cheap bc no heatsink with i t

[graceful sparrow]

I can stretch my budget to 13K

But I wanna save that 1K

[hazy frost]

its not worth it anyway the 900 or sn770 are more than good enough

its just to get a good tlc drive dont need anything rly fast and dram would be nice but n ot necessary

[dull garnet]

i'm using some cheap ass kioxia nvme drive (tlc + dram) in my system, really doesn't matter that much

[graceful sparrow]

Got it

[wild wyvern]

@hazy frost I'm thinking of getting an adata legend nvme too

Is the 710 fine?

Or abit yikes

[dull garnet]

tlc but no dram

[hazy frost]

Yeah so long as it’s not cheap as shit qlc drive

Fast speeds are nice but used less often than anyone thinks

Games use 1-2k at most usually rn

Consistently

[dull garnet]

all my games are on my sata ssd anyway

[hazy frost]

The 710 is qlc

The first tier that has TLC is the 800 I think?

[wild wyvern]

Oh

[hazy frost]

It’s still fine if ur on a budget it’s just not amazing

There might bc smth a bit better for a similar price tho

[dull garnet]

ssd-tester.com lied to me

[hazy frost]

Idk there’s not enough info on some of them

Pretty sure 710 is qlc bc the 800 also had qlc models iirc?

[ancient raft]

the only SSD I stay away from is the piece of shit Samsung with bad sectors even with firmware update

[wild wyvern]

@hazy frost https://brightstarcomp.com/products/patriot-vp4300-lite-m-2-pcie-gen4x4-ssd-1tb-2tb?variant=43304011661359

How bout this

[hazy frost]

True id never recommend those bc even at high end they’re so expensive u might as well buy other better SSDs for less

WD or solidigm make better stuff that’s cheap

[ancient raft]

there were Samsung's on sale recently for the very reason... that they're a no-QA piece of crap

as someone with family who used to work for Samsung, they have an extremely bad hardware verification process

gestures broadly at Samsung Exynos modem with double digit 0days

[hazy frost]

Samsungs QC and warranty on every product is subpar these days tbh

[ancient raft]

yeah I ended up getting a SN850X 4TB

[wild wyvern]

Waffle look at the nvme I sent ys

[hazy frost]

Uhh I can’t remember if this one uses TLC or qlc

[sly walrus]

i don't trust samsung anything

[hazy frost]

I think different models have different

[dull garnet]

yeah i'd get a sn850x if i were buying high end (or a drive for my ps5)

[hazy frost]

I got a 2TB P5 plus bc it was on sale

[ancient raft]

I have a Samsung phone but it's Snapdragon

[ancient raft]

I need to rebuild my PC sometime, might throw a 5080 in there idk

or wait for 5080S

[hazy frost]

I’d wait for used 4090s tbh

5080 is def not worth id wait for super tho

Atl wait for them to stop showing up with rops missing lmao

[ancient raft]

I like the 5080S more for the form factor than anything else

[sly walrus]

what if 5080 super is just the missing rops

[hazy frost]

True..

[ancient raft]

:)

[wild wyvern]

@ancient raft what's your pc specs atm

[brave oxide]

just a reminder that supers are not a guaranteed addition

the 10s and 30s skipped them