technology-discussion

[sly elk]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5080-discovered-with-104-rops-8-missing-in-action

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-discovered-with-reduced-rop-count-88-instead-of-96

[hazy frost]

I’ve seen a lot of doom posting about AMD ‘not doing enough’ already

Somehow

[sly elk]

the amd card is cheaper

[hazy frost]

Some people seem to think the 5070ti is going to stop being obscenely expensive much sooner than it will be

[hazy frost]

MUCH cheaper

[sly elk]

their mistake was naming it '9070'

they should have called it '9080' lol

[hazy frost]

Tbf AMDs xx70 is what the tier should be and Nvidias is just underwhelming which makes the comparison wrong again

[sly elk]

i do agree

lol i am reminded of the 3080

[hazy frost]

People are saying Nvidia will just lower prices and then AMD won’t seem good but like

[sly elk]

and the launch price it had

[hazy frost]

No one seems to understand amd will just do the same thing

[sly elk]

and then iirc someone at nvidia straight up said they made a mistake making the 3080 too cheap

[hazy frost]

There’s no reference cards for either of the cards in the price bracket so

It’s all on stock and pricing by retailers

Which AMD does much better at recently

[hazy frost]

The 10GB 3080 was too expensive lmao

30 series would’ve actually been alright without external factors ruining it

[shadow oracle]

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https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5080-discovered-with-104-rops-8-missing-in-action

[dire viper]

the minor performance uplift being eaten by missing ROPS

[potent arrow]

WHY IS IT ON ANOTHER MODEL

[lost python]

man. i need more memory

[shadow oracle]

RTX 5089, RTX 5079, RTX 5069Ti

[dull garnet]

sobering stuff

[hazy frost]

Literally rereleasing last gen cards for more money now

Good times for the gpu market

[lost python]

further alleged benchmarks

[shadow oracle]

RDNA4 clocks super high

[lost python]

someone who allegedly has a card already posted on reddit that theirs reached 3.2ghz

[cold yacht]

So like is the 5000 series cards just ok

[sharp star]

no

it’s mega cursed

[hazy frost]

They straight up suck

There’s way too many issues with them on top of the mediocre at best performance uplifts

[sly walrus]

so it turns out my m.2 drive isn’t compatible with my new motherboard

[sharp star]

so like

physically or

[sly walrus]

it goes in just fine

but the bios acts like nothing’s there

sees all the other drives just fine, too

[golden stream]

Strange, as m.2 disk ain't that picky

Have you check disk management? Prob it's just no partition?

[sly walrus]

this drive is like six years old

[sly walrus]

i can’t even boot to windows

[golden stream]

Aight

[odd sand]

I got mine for $800 🤷‍♀️

[shadow oracle]

I cant say a lot but official clocks are higher

3.2 is the engineering sample

anyway

we see actual clocks in a week

[torpid kayak]

pay more to get less? :3

[shadow oracle]

the more you buy the less rop you get

[potent arrow]

Arbeitsspeicher sounds like masterchief went to type Arbiter and had a stroke

[dire viper]

Im Cache yes you are sweety now go to bed

https://youtu.be/ZMpFl_RQLLM?si=ZAzjdPbFYNVihBs1

having someone compare the engineering of lucid to the LFA, NSX and other cars is kinda wild

but interesting

Lucid being a power house in Formula E probably helped

they have lots of F1 engineers on staff that do aerodynamics and mechanical engineering

[sly elk]

yep

that car is slept on so hard

[dire viper]

437 miles per charge... that shit gets better range than a lot of gas cars

and thats on the sporty summer tires

[sly elk]

i think the reason though is quite simple

like really really simple

[dire viper]

Lucid doesnt do marketing :D

[sly elk]

It's not an SUV

[dire viper]

and that

[sly elk]

oh yea, that too

[dire viper]

they do have an SUV coming

the Gravity

[sly elk]

I think this will be a big thing for Rivian as well

[dire viper]

which according to the people who have driven the test mule, it drives as good as the Air

while being like 1000lbs heavier

[sly elk]

If the environment hadn't changed

the little rivians would sell like hotcakes

[dire viper]

yea

compact SUVs sell well

[sly elk]

but yea i love those lucids and i've never even driven one

it's kind of a

"I'm not going to test drive it because I'll want one"
SPEAKING OF WHICH

[dire viper]

yea lmao

[sly elk]

yesterday I was getting chinese food and one of these was parked in the street outside the parking lot

and I gotta say

[dire viper]

Taycan's look pretty good

[sly elk]

that may be my favorite color on a porsche

period

[dire viper]

the EV fad is dying tho

Taycan sales down 40%

[sly elk]

tbh porsche has been

[dire viper]

same with the Audi E-Tron which is on the same platform

[sly elk]

making such cool color options n the taycan

[dire viper]

yea its a really good color

[sly elk]

and then on everything else they don't even offer them

just dark blue for $3000

or whatever

[dire viper]

yer

[sly elk]

the EV fad is dead bruh

[dire viper]

Taycan sales down 40%, 911 sales up 30%

[sly elk]

let's face it, we're regressing. hard.

[dire viper]

well the issue is

we dont have more companies like Rivian/Lucid

[sly elk]

i wouldn't be surprised if EVs were made illegal in the near future

[dire viper]

Rivian and Lucid stand on their own purely because of their engineering and the fact they offer consultation

[sly elk]

vw scoutr

laughably late to the party

[dire viper]

the only reason Porsche exists is because for 30 years they were being bankrolled off of engineering consultations

and Rivian got 3 billion from VW to do a complete rework of all their infotainment and shit

honestly I think VW got scammed hardcore by Bosch

[sly elk]

oh yea

i think chrysler has the same problem atm

[dire viper]

Bosch went crazy with their contract pricing and was forcing new tech down their throat

[sly elk]

but they didn't do quite as boneheaded shit as vw did

vw went full hog idiot

WHO PUTS CAPACITIVE TOUCH BUTTONS ON THE STEERING WHEEL?!

[dire viper]

Chrysler has the problem of having a guy who worked under Carlos Ghosn in charge of Stellantis

[sly elk]

they have a lot of problems lol

[dire viper]

Carlos Ghosn was good for Nissan and Renault until he WASNT

[sly elk]

it's funny because some of the key people who were responsible for some of the stuff they got right, are still there

[dire viper]

he was bad when it came to pitting Nissan and Renault against each other and neither could do anything because of it

so they were late to everything

[sly elk]

but the vibe i get from the internet is they forced a ton of the talented engineers/designers out of chrysler

[dire viper]

they got rid of the Xterra right before the sales of SUV's became multiplicative year over year

[sly elk]

just looking at what mercedes makes now, I get the vibe mercedes took a lot of their designers but i honestly have no idea

except that some of the stuff mercedes does now looks juuuust like the mid 2000-2010 chrysler concepts

[dire viper]

this was years ago during Marchionne, but all the good engineers remained if they didnt quit

[sly elk]

which is cute

because people are like

"Mercedes has sucked ever since the chrysler merger"

[dire viper]

Marchionne didnt take failure. if you are an engineer being paid 500k a year to design shit, you better be good

which... a lot of them werent

which is why a lot of them havent found jobs in the auto industry again

[sly elk]

but also if you're an engineer getting paid 500k a year

it's part of your job to fail

[dire viper]

yes

the issue was everything was failing

[sly elk]

sure it's... it's a balance

[dire viper]

yea

I've talked to people who do the engineering stuff

like chassis engineering

[sly elk]

like if you're going to work on new novel stuff

there are projects and times where you'll need to work on something a while before you even know if it's a viable option

those are fun

especially the "trust me bro" phase lmao

[dire viper]

part of the issue is the platform sharing. most brands do not differentiate enough between their models so most models sell poorly

but if you have too little flavor, consumers wont buy from your brand

[sly elk]

i think

I hate to say it but therre are 2 things i dislike about the taycan

[dire viper]

the choice is what drives sales, but choice drives sales to only a few SKU's

[sly elk]

one is the weird looking headlights and the tribal carvings underneath them XD

[dire viper]

the cheek intakes

for radiators

same air goes into the wheel well

[sly elk]

the other

is this ugly ass thing

[dire viper]

E Tron is weird

Audi is such a cooked brand

[sly elk]

i feel like a jackass saying it

and it's not a brand snob thing

but i feel like that audi ruined the taycan for me

like it made it obvious the taycan is just an e-tron cosplaying as a porsche

[dire viper]

everything in VW is

at least for Audi

Audi is commuter platforms and luxury platforms squeezed into a mid luxury brand

Bentley Continental is a Panamera

E Tron is a Taycan

the Urus and Cayenne are a Q8

[sly elk]

or really

i think it's a porsche cosplaying as an audi

and yea audi is a problem for vw but vw is a worse problem no?

[dire viper]

only for the Cayenne

[sly elk]

and that problem started in 2005 I think

[dire viper]

the other chassis are porsche first

cause Porsche has a better budget

[sly elk]

when idiots at VW decided that VW should be a luxury brand

WTF were they thinking?!

[dire viper]

they stopped doing that

[sly elk]

like a lot of vw purists shit all over the american jetta/passat as a fake chinese clone but really

that move was right

the german 'luxury passat' was stupid

[dire viper]

the Phaeton was that last VW model that tried to punch above

[sly elk]

dude they were

charging $35k for a fucking jetta

[dire viper]

but the Phaeton platform was used in Bentley

yea

thats not that crazy lol

[sly elk]

ye sit is

20 years later

[dire viper]

when was that

[sly elk]

they're selling the base jetta for 21995

[dire viper]

do you know how much a base camry is now

30k

for like.

[sly elk]

a pretty nice car

[dire viper]

the most boring sedan ever made

its only nice because it doesnt try to achieve anything

[sly elk]

i mean

I could talk about the camry for a bit xD

[dire viper]

only the industrial design sweat shops of Japan could have created the modern Camry

[sly elk]

is it even japanese

[dire viper]

yes

[sly elk]

or is it like kia where americans make and design the cars

-shrug-

[dire viper]

Kia is Korean design still

[sly elk]

ahh

i forgot anymore

[dire viper]

Kia/Hyundai are domestic

Acura only exists in the US

[sly elk]

i coulda swore the us market stuff was mostly us-based anymore

[dire viper]

and Acura is US designed

[sly elk]

ehh

but for a while acura was just rebadged euro hondas

[dire viper]

cause the Acura design center is by Monterey???

same with Mazda

[sly elk]

the camry is a funny car

i said it's a nice car but it's like

idk i've driven a few over the years

it's one of the cheapest feeling cars I've ever driven

[dire viper]

its weird because it actually wasnt. lots of Acura's were designed for America first and then tested as Honda's in europe and japan

idk if you've ever heard of them but Honda tried to make an Audi competitor

[sly elk]

the only cheaper feeling car i've driven was a toyota tercel lmao, some random driving school had it. wow what a turd.

[sly elk]

oh that's interesting

all I remember was the TL == honda accord in europe

but i never felt like the camry/corolla were meant to be 'nice feeling'

just

bullet proof in a way?

i'll say more absurdity 😄

the only american cars I can think of that remind me of camry/corolla build quality

(when it comes to like, interior pieces and not-drivetrain-stuff) ford escort and chevy cavalier

that's a special level of absurdity from me ^_^

i'm not saying they're built bad or anything

just the way the doors sound/feel, the controls sound/feel, stuff like that

paper thin doors with no resistance whatsoever when you close them

not the murrica car "the ac is on full blast you gotta slam that door or it won't shut" 😄

[dire viper]

thank you for the unmute 🙏

thank you honda for naming cars the way you do

@sly elk I do agree there needs to be better blues

the issue is a blue that looks good all the time

which the Taycan blue is one of those

but yea generally the issue with a lot of new cars is how fake they feel?

companies try too hard to make one platform do everything

aka Mercedes

stop making AMG trims of every car

the CLA AMG's overheat constantly after driving hard for 5 minutes

the 4 cylinder hybrid setup is very bad and has made their extremely expensive AMG lineup slower than every comparable car

make a good sports car for each bracket. simplify your product lineup.

[golden stream]

Kia/Huyndai is still international, prob just not in US and EU
SEA here and there's KIA and Hyundai flooded here

[dire viper]

no no

they sell Kia/Hyundai here

their design is still domestic

[golden stream]

or just the design?

[dire viper]

most companies have foreign design teams

[golden stream]

oh ye the design is still domestic

like the Morning design iirc cater to SEA only?

[dire viper]

Mazda is the most prominant for it cause their US design team is based in car heaven, which is Monterey, California

[golden stream]

fek Mazda tho, SEA design is like chocobo doodoo

[dire viper]

I love Mazda's designs

[golden stream]

you haven't seen or try SEA Mazda

it's not great

heckin thin floor, so frickin noisy

[dire viper]

which mazda's

like what models are in SEA

[golden stream]

lemme recheck

I tried 2 cars of my bosses, both Mazda and it drove me NUT

[dire viper]

Mazda2/3

CX-3

was it the tiny compact ones

things like the Carol/Flair

but you are correct, Mazda's arent THAT quiet

[golden stream]

ye the CX lines, and the 2/3

[dire viper]

the cause of that is simply they are not expensive

like Mazda is just above entry cars

[golden stream]

it's the choice of someone wanna flexing a bit but still want to navigate tight streets in here

[dire viper]

they're premium economy with a hard focus in simplification of their brand to allow them to make their cars extremely nice for the price

[golden stream]

look nice, ok flexing, meh in other stuff, esp even worse for not really good drivers

[dire viper]

the Mazda MX-5 is literally the most produced sports car ever

[dire viper]

yea fair

[golden stream]

most cabs in my place is KIA/Hyundai, mostly bc of cost-effective-comfy

it's k and it's cheapo

[dire viper]

mazda's global strategy rn is just premium customers sorta

most of their sales are US/JP

and mostly US

compared to that

[golden stream]

huh understandable

there's a stigma of a red mazda in my place's media

[dire viper]

its kind of funny but Mazda is what Mercedes used to be

[golden stream]

quite a handful of soap opera with the whole NTR jealousy plot shiet on a red mazda

[dire viper]

Mercedes used to have a few models that they spent an insane amount of money on to develop, which they now dont do, and Mazda went from having a lot of models to just a few that they spend a lot of money on making better

[golden stream]

my relative once had an old ass mazda and it was hella nice to nav in the city

look nice, rarely break, still chill with SEA weather, then they gave it to someone though

[dire viper]

yea Mazda got fairly good after 1990

the ford partnership was actually good...

I want a Mazda Luce

Mazda Luce had the engine out of the RX-7 but only came in an automatic

but you can convert the Luce to a manual

so you get small luxury sedan but sports car fun

[golden stream]

I HEARD MANUAL

[dire viper]

yes

I think they should make ppl in the US start driving manuals first

[golden stream]

SAME

so in my place there're 2 tiers for usual car stuff, the B1 and B2, B1 for automatic car, B2 for manual, automatic and also allow to join Uber

still prefer the manual though, good ol reliable

[dire viper]

yea

I daily drive a BMW M3

old one

2004

cars I think that cool but probably arent: weird old Alfa Romeo's

Alfa Romeo 159

[golden stream]

dem, funni front

[dire viper]

yea :D

Alfa Romeo's design

they make amazing looking cars that arent reliable at all

as all good Italian companies should

[golden stream]

oy I still have ptsd with Vespa ninjas

[dire viper]

Vespa's are reliable

well

it depends if they are maintained

[golden stream]

heavy, expensive, and quite a lot of office ladies just Initial D on those mop

[dire viper]

but thats all things

[golden stream]

SEA weather is gruesome man

good maintenance can keep it nice, though peep here don't do maintenance as often as it should be

[dire viper]

the bad rep for European cars in America was because during the 1950's and 1960's, every year of car in the US looked different

and european cars took a few years to change at a time

so people would buy american cars, then sell them after a year and buy a new one

so lots of people didnt know how to properly maintain cars once american companies stopped doing that

[golden stream]

man

depend on peep, though SEA peep don't change car that much

[dire viper]

the Chevrolet Impala looks different every year from 1958 to 1964

compeltely different bodies

besides the 1963 and 64

63 and 64 look similar but are still different

[golden stream]

indeed american car designs do define the decades, but man that's a lot of old cars

[golden stream]

diff body but similar engine?

[dire viper]

yet there isnt an American car from the 1950's or 1960's that is as iconic as european cars besides something like a 1955 Belair or a 1957 Ford Fairlane

[dire viper]

this was back when cars were still mostly body on frame, so the bodies were different but engines usually stayed the same, but ever 3 or 4 years completely new engines would come up

like unibody cars were usually sports cars

the Volkswagen Beetle, the Volkswagen Bus, the Volkswagen Karman Ghia are all the same frame just different bodies

so you can stick a bus body onto a beetle

@sly elk the Fairlane is so sexy

[golden stream]

it is

and hella good real estate for art decals

[dire viper]

when I think of automotive Icons, I think of things like the Ferrari 206 Dino, the Lamborghini Miura, and the original Aston Martin V8 (pictures in that order)

[golden stream]

the first two may fit in a Men In Black movies ngl
but dem the last one is p classy

[dire viper]

the Miura is considered the first "super car"

180mph top speed in 1966

mid engine V12

this was the chassis for the car

designed by an aircraft engineer

[odd sand]

Tony wouldn't be able to keep up his Fix-It skills if they were /s

[dire viper]

the slander!

really what it was was that electrical stuff was hard

Italian cars were way simpler than american cars

like the amount of wiring in a Fiat 500/600 is less wiring than any of the cars that had power seats back then lmao

and yes, they had power seats in cars in the 50's and 60's

very very rare options but can be found in most Chrysler/GM products and some Fords

power seats, power windows

an original 58-60 Impala with power seats and windows is minimum 100k

low mileage (under 50k miles) and rare paint color, talk north of 500k

[sly elk]

i feel this lol 😄

i love the blue of my jeep, it looks really pretty when it's clean and has a good polish/sealant on it

when it's really dirty it looks meh LOL

also without direct sunlight it's easily confused with a black jeep

i love that baby blue the taycan comes in

maybe i can get a screaming deal on one of those a year or two old XD

[odd sand]

My blue stinger looks good in most light

[sly elk]

that blue? it's a nice blue ^^

most blues are to me

[glad dove]

kia stinger is a really nice car - we have a dude with a white one down my street

[golden stream]

Quick question
My pal is getting HDD for archive stuff (library assets stuff on PC btw, not NAS), which is better?

[glad dove]

after my promotion last month, im finally in a better position to start setting dedicated new car money aside, so ill be doing that next month and will be saving for whatever "fully loaded" options we have for a genesis g70 awd (with the larger engine and upgraded tech).

this year's model fully loaded is like 60k but im sure it will get more expensive over the next few years

[golden stream]

GRATZ ON PROMOTION

The issue is if you're in the US, yeeeeee the tariff will hit which is

[glad dove]

yeah that will make cars all >100k

rip

but thank you 🙂

for hdds, you want one that is CMR (conventional magnetic recording) vs SMR (shingled magnetic recording)

you may want to google those modelnumbers to make sure

[golden stream]

More like, he uses it for asset library, which isn't exactly archiving work

[glad dove]

SMR will have performance fall off a cliff after very little use

[golden stream]

Huhhhh icic

Tyyyy

[glad dove]

i usually buy my large capacity drives from external usb enclosures like this one: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-expansion-20tb-external-usb-3-0-desktop-hard-drive-with-rescue-data-recovery-services-black/6609643.p?skuId=6609643

then ill open it up and rip the drive out

[golden stream]

smort

Altho he's using internal for asset library so internal works for now

BUT I'll need it

Gotta archive my library with stuff, it's still smol rn but it's growing

[glad dove]

https://smarthdd.com/database/ST20000DM001-3Y3103/EN03/

this was the hdd inside that enclosure

[golden stream]

4TB of NVMe and can feel my storage is running out

[glad dove]

really nice specs

my nas is happy with it

[golden stream]

Niceeee

[glad dove]

im less happy with some of those Western digitals that i shucked but thats alright

need space for my plex

[real edge]

my only question is why is an HDD 150$

[golden stream]

AUD

[real edge]

when HDDs are a thing of the past

[golden stream]

Price/storage

And also storage for asset library

[glad dove]

i need >100tb

[golden stream]

His UE5 library storage is running out

[real edge]

ye

cold storage is good

but 100$ for an HDD seems too much

if its just 4 tb

[golden stream]

I'm looking at HDD in my place and where 2+TB

[golden stream]

Ngl same, but then again, AUD and brand new

[odd sand]

Oh, so they cancelled the Stinger, but the G70 is still going? That's good at least.

[glad dove]

yeah i was worried they'd sundown the g70 but thankfully that hasnt happened

[odd sand]

It's basically the same car save the front grill

Does it have a stupid analog clock in it?

And yeah that color blue is the same as my stinger (unsurprisingly)

[odd sand]

Looks good in basically any weather, save for being covered in salt lol

Still has the shift paddles right?

And good, no analog clock. Maybe with the addition of the LCDs to cars they finally ditched that dumb design feature all the highend asian models seemed to have

[glad dove]

ever since i rode in a corvette 20 some years ago and saw a cool little heads-up display showing speed on the windshield, ive always wanted a car with a heads-up display, so it makes me super happy that theyve added that to the genesis g70

[odd sand]

Ahh, looks like maybe they ditched them awhile ago bc the 2008 infiniti has it, but it's gone by the 2014 model year:

[odd sand]

Stinger and G70 are the same platform, so presumably they've had it since 2018...

[glad dove]

ya stinger has it

[odd sand]

And yeah, I really love not having to stare at my gauges ever really.

[glad dove]

id probably end up getting some shade of grey for colour since the snow/salt and weather here is awful

[odd sand]

Also the dynamic cruise or w/e is a godsend in traffic

I set the tap blinker to 5 blinks instead of the default 3. Only thing to be wary of is if you only use the tap instead of the full turn signal, it won't give you the audible blindspot warning

It will have the light on the edge of the side mirrors still

[glad dove]

itll probably be 1-2y before im ready to get the car so im sure the tech will change by then

[odd sand]

Hard to say, something like that I wouldn't think would change but maybe

Hopefully they don't fuck up the navigation bc I have the ~2022/23 nav version on my stinger and it's my favorite stock nav out of any I've seen (Although I haven't used a tesla)

[glad dove]

sweet

[odd sand]

The base one in 2018 was decent and I updated it in 2022 and they made a few nice improvements

[glad dove]

i just hope maintenance on it wont kill me

[odd sand]

It has the map on one side and like your next 6-8 segments of the trip on the right with names and distance and there is a ticker bar showing how close you're approaching the next segment. Kinda like seen in that HUD picture that bar on the right

[glad dove]

i had an audi for a while and that became just too expensive to maintain

[odd sand]

I got mine at 17k and it's at 45k now and all good so far. Only oil changes and a few minor warranty recalls

[glad dove]

nice

[odd sand]

I'm probably due for front brake pads soon though, so I'm debating whether I want to do them myself or pay the dealer

Brembos of course, so thru the dealer will probably cost like $500 just for pads and rotors...

[glad dove]

yeah full brakejobs are pricey

[odd sand]

The only thing that annoys me with it is it doesn't save your selection choice for turning off the "engine shuts off at a red light" thing

[glad dove]

ever since i had a major back injury and surgery, i just pay the dealer for the work - dont do much car stuff anymore

[odd sand]

So every time I start the car I need to press the button to turn off the engine stop feature, turn on heated seats and steering wheel if necessary, and adjust the performance mode. It will stay in Eco Mode if set, but Custom, Smart, or Sport always defaults back to Comfort the next time you start it.

[glad dove]

ahh thats not too bad

id probably keep the car in eco mode to save gas

[odd sand]

Bc unless they've improved it, it's just stupid bc if the light is only red for 2 secs as you pull up, it turns off and you need to start it again and wait a few secs to move. Or it doesn't want to drain the battery so it never leaves the engine off for more than like 30 secs before turning back on again anyways. And sometimes it doesn't turn off at all (maybe based on battery?)

[glad dove]

the auto-stop thing sounds weird though yeah

[odd sand]

I read some ppl that left it on permanently and in summer with A/C running etc. they actually had their battery die at the light lol

You can buy an aftermarket defeat device for that if you want though, that injects the "Off" code every time you start the car

It gets fairly reasonable highway mileage on Eco, about 27-28mpg. 22-24 in mixed driving in comfort and 18 in sport

Eco really is eco though, the acceleration is quite limp

So if it's like all city 25-35mph then you can leave it eco the entire time, otherwise I prefer comfort for mixed driving until the highway, then once up to speed and not having to jockey for lane position or something, I kick it over to eco for the long haul bc why not

If you do drive it in snow though, stick with Comfort not Sport mode, bc the power bias for Sport is like 90% rear so...

There is also Custom mode where you can have like Eco engine perf, but still turn on the active suspension, for example.

I should really try that bc I do like the feel of the sport suspension

And in snow, that's when the paddle shifters come in handy to fine tune your gear for curves or hills etc.

[glad dove]

i dont expect much issue with the snow since its awd

[odd sand]

As someone who drove like 500k miles doing pizza delivery thru 15+ midwest winters: Engine braking on hills is a godsend, as is being able to downshift on curves/hill climbs as you maintain more control with higher rpms

So often I would see people get to a hill and tap the brakes and then their rear end would lose it and they'd go into the ditch etc.

Engine braking allows you to shed speed without locking up the wheels. traction control kicking in just isn't the same

It doesn't prevent slides, it just allows you to come to a stop maybe 25% sooner while sliding than without

[brave oxide]

they seem to be 70+ usd so it kinda checks out converted to aud + add some extras since stuff is more expensive there

as long as ssd are 2-4x the price of hdd people will keep buying hdd for storage

[odd sand]

$100 for 4TB seems quite good. 8TB is the sweetspot these days I think when you get to enterprise drive pricing at least. Maybe 10-12tb if you find a good deal. But then your pricepoint is more like the $200-250 range...

[hazy frost]

Buying HDDs new for personal use isn’t worth it anymore when u can buy them in mass from a number of places that shut down

But $100 probably is about right still

[odd sand]

Newegg has WD Blue 4TB for $85 atm it seems:
https://www.newegg.com/blue-wd40ezax-4tb-for-daily-computing-5400-rpm/p/N82E16822234536

WD Golds looks like the sweet spot atm is either 10TB or 14TB

[weak harbor]

Is there a way to completely disable notification on PC and receive them from smartphone only for discord?

I often don't want to be disturbed on my PC, and then the notification it's not always in my mailbox and I've to guess witch one of the hundred servers I'm in it's the cause

[odd sand]

Not entirely I think bc at some point somewhat recently, Discord changed it so muted servers still ping you if they use at-everyone regardless of settings

So I've had to leave some servers bc I set the channel to mute, the category to mute, the entire server to mute and put the notification settings for all of those to Nothing... and still receive pings

@weak harbor Actually, I take that back, if you go under Settings >> Notifications. You can probably turn off desktop notifications and set notifications to DM only or nothing etc. and theoretically that should only affect the desktop client and not mobile

[weak harbor]

Ty I'll try it

It's dumb not all notifications are displayed in the "mailbox"

For example if you've a server where all messages should ping you but they don't @ you it won't appear in the notification "mailbox"

Done I've turned off desktop notification and set inactive period to 1 Min Just in case so after 1 minute I'm sure I'll get stuff on my phone

[golden stream]

Can cheese with discord streaming mode
Just open OBS and do nothing

[odd sand]

oic ... sure would be nice if they could use that nitro money to fix their shit tho /s

[golden stream]

Haha fr /s

[odd sand]

My phone thankfully doesn't have many problems bc I turned off auto-updates before they moved the client away from native android to React

[golden stream]

Dem sameTM

I don't autoupdate, I update what I want but there's still update notification

[odd sand]

ok time to pass out its almost 6am and I work in 3hrs YAY

[real edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NOoMklpPM

[hazy frost]

There’s a link in the comments for a non YouTube compression destroyed version of results

[gentle star]

Tldr summary?

[hazy frost]

burn in exists but isnt rly that bad unless u just turn every protective measure off

they run it in far less than ideal circumstances and dont rly have m uch of an issue after a year

[real edge]

theres a vertical line and a taskbar line that are faintly visible

with their enhancement filter

[hazy frost]

if u do the basic stuff like running the pixel refresh and other panel care ever yfew hours, use dark mode in browsers, and auto hide taskbar

theyll be good for quirte soem time

[real edge]

personally I use my browser for mixed use a lot, a lot of browsing the net and such, altho I use dark mode as much as possible

[hazy frost]

theyre also using a qd oled panel where if u had to use it in a bright room like i assume they do often u need to have brightness on max with the glossy reflections

theres only 1 matte qd oled one which is the g6

[real edge]

but so far the odyssey g7 I bought a few years ago is still good

no QC issues

somehow

[hazy frost]

i had the aoc oled one but had some image retention that wasnt burn in out of the box which was fun

i got a refund and just waiting for the one i wanted more to go on sale instead

i still think qd oled sucks even if the text clarity is marginally better

bc the reflections make reading anything a pain even with better sub pixel layout

[graceful sparrow]

Planning on getting a new PC soon, thoughts on the build? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mK8dMC

[real edge]

two things of note

I wouldn't get a samsung SSD

and I wouldn't get a microATX case

[graceful sparrow]

What is your reccomendation?

@real edge

[real edge]

are you US

need to know region to figure out pricing

[graceful sparrow]

Hong Kong

[real edge]

ohh

I have no clue about that market

[graceful sparrow]

Hong Kong people use this website https://www.terminalhk.com

It's all in chinese so there will be problem

but, what would you reccomend getting?

[real edge]

a crucial SSD

or western digital

PCIe 4

cheaper

[real edge]

Western Digital Black SN850X

[graceful sparrow]

Is this the SSD?

[real edge]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Plus-PCIe-NAND-6600MB/dp/B098WL46RS

or something like this

[real edge]

too expensive

[graceful sparrow]

https://www.terminalhk.com/products/search/Crucial

Here is a list

[real edge]

2700 usd for an ssd?

id assume this is not 2700usd

lol

[graceful sparrow]

HKD

Around 347

in USD

[real edge]

https://www.terminalhk.com/products/SSD固態硬碟/1TB/63bcfae1d8a6266f04b45018

something like this

as for case

[graceful sparrow]

https://www.terminalhk.com/products/機箱/全部 Here

機箱 is case

[real edge]

https://www.terminalhk.com/products/機箱/Fractal Design/62bc44e82f4d8a6a04d8bc4d

something like this

just a standard mid tower

with decent airflow and good front interface

if ur ever planning to buy a huge gpu

id go with a fractal design torrent

but its far more expensive

the pop air is okay

its ""good enough""

for something cheaper

tiny microatx cases

just suffer from temperatures

high temps

unless its some top of the line juggernaught

[sly elk]

also a pain in the ass to work inside

[real edge]

get a fractal design torrent

or a pop air

[sly elk]

or get a fractal north and post on reddit about how you hate rgb

[hazy frost]

the mini pop air is fine for matx

unless u have ridiculous hardware in it

[graceful sparrow]

My current case is an ATX case

[hazy frost]

https://www.terminalhk.com/products/機箱/Phanteks/65f9517b3836a5a104904dd1

[graceful sparrow]

oh wait...

[hazy frost]

id get this

[sly elk]

i say i don't like fractal but i'm the only person who says that, and the only fractal case i've used is a focus g, and it was a friggin turd of a case

[hazy frost]

its cheap has good build quality still and supports everything that isnt obnoxiously large

[sly elk]

if you have a microcenter or a best buy nearby maybe you can get lucky and poke at some cases in person lol 😄

[hazy frost]

its $600 so what like

$80 usd

[glad dove]

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-is-suppressing-inventory-levels-for-high-end-rtx-50-series-gpus/

[graceful sparrow]

I heard that RAM I picked was not that good

[hazy frost]

its fine

[sly elk]

the problem with that phanteks is the front is glass

[real edge]

its good enough for amd

the ram

[hazy frost]

its not

[sly elk]

ehhh?

[graceful sparrow]

I just realize I can't get a G.Skill

[hazy frost]

side is front is fine mesh

[sly elk]

OH it's mesh

sweet

[hazy frost]

yeah its one of my favourite value ones rn

it replaced the g360/500a

[graceful sparrow]

oh wait...I can get G skill

[hazy frost]

for me

[real edge]

I still have

that corsair inverse

doesn't seem to cause issues

[sly elk]

i've never used a corsair case

have randomly poked at one somebody used at work, it was nice

[hazy frost]

i have an nzxt case until phanteks bring back the old colour options

[sly elk]

they have color options?

[hazy frost]

i still miss it

[sly elk]

all I remember was dark grey lol

oh ok

[hazy frost]

the P cases did

[sly elk]

i remember every budget pc build using that case

[hazy frost]

then they got refreshed as the G series ones

and theyre only black or white again

[hazy frost]

the p500a was better priced than the g500a is

i think that xt pro ultra is a much better replacement

[sly elk]

huzzah

[graceful sparrow]

So this is how it looks like now

[sly elk]

i have no horse in this race XD my machines are both in old overpriced inwin cases

[graceful sparrow]

So...how is this?

[hazy frost]

my pc is in the nzxt case still due to nothing i like more

it looks good

semi reasonable price as well in the current market lol

[sly elk]

nice gpu

[real edge]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=am5+board+roundup

see if your mobo stacks up properly

[glad dove]

may want to wait til the 9070xt launch next week

[real edge]

^

[graceful sparrow]

oh shit really?

[real edge]

also ye

wait for the 9070xt

but for now

look at the motherboard videos to see if the mobo u picked is good or if u want sth else

depending on your price point

[hazy frost]

I’m not sure the 9070xt will be a better deal than the 7900xt is there

It’s pretty cheap as is

Unless it is actually $550 retail and u can get one of those models that is

[graceful sparrow]

I heard people say it might be slightly cheaper

[hazy frost]

It could be a good deal if they have stock of them lol

Hopefully

The ‘leaked’ pricing has been all over the place and people have different ideas of what’s good value so idk

[wide hill]

uum, my dlss is broken

idk what happened

but now i can't play like a dragon pirate yakuza in hawaii

literally at the start of the game screen is black

and when i turn dlss back on, it just gets stuck on the previous non-dlss frame

at least fsr works

[brave oxide]

I vaguely recall someone having dlss black screen issues recently in #video-games-general but idk if it was yakuza or mh wilds

[wide hill]

yeah idk it just randomly happened

[glad dove]

maybe try that dlss swapper tool? https://github.com/beeradmoore/dlss-swapper

[wide hill]

could try

[wide hill]

that just made my dlss dissapear from the upscaling options

yeah so i went down to 3.8.10, and this still happens, it might be just my gpu started wrong

and now i reverted to the old version and now it works again??

[dire viper]

Lucius was having issues with MHWilds and it was because he was using a third party program to force DLSS which interfered with output from what could be gathered

[dire viper]

God the Audi 100 Coupé was so sexy

[sly elk]

https://www.jalopnik.com/1798484/dodge-charger-daytona-ev-lease-details-cheap-deal-colorado-2024-model/

I don't think they have nacs charger ports though

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/LvBtfqU6svo?si=GJE_y6FUcSwNO_Ha

[sharp star]

I think if you try to justify your RTX 50 purchase with MFG or upscaling or some shit like that then you will be denied the Mandate of Heaven

[dire viper]

LMAO

yea

its really that bad...

oh the 5080 also has missing ROPs

[odd sand]

I'm still just really surprised a basic "does every part of the chip actually report as working" isn't part of their QC process at either Nvidia or any of the AIBs...

[dire viper]

it actually is

[odd sand]

Did they get binned but then fed back into the downstream on accident?

[dire viper]

every partner and NVIDIA themselves run a "program" that tests and validates the completed GPU is within its engineering specs

[dire viper]

the QC happens at the fab, and then after the GPU is completely finished

so... there is no way to actually miss a bad GPU

unless the QC program is shit

[odd sand]

And yet...

[dire viper]

so its malicious or incompetence

both bad

[sly walrus]

same thing if you ask a lot of people

[sharp star]

Malicious incompetence

[sly elk]

lmao

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-16e-doesnt-have-magsafe.2449709/

[golden stream]

lmao

Wait, does it has FaceID/Apple face reg kit?

No wallet is kinda inconvenient, dunno abt NFC

[sly elk]

yea i'm pretty sure it has face id

i wonder if they did that to keep a version that is safe for people with pace makers

[golden stream]

Ohhhh ok, potential vtubing gear incoming

[kindred brook]

I'm so happy with my 4080 super

Doesn't burn anything down

[dire viper]

Lmao

[golden stream]

Lmao

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/protowlf.bsky.social/post/3lixv2djlek2f wake up babes, we got a new self-reporting feature that tells you if a server is unfunny and uncreative

Proto (@protowlf.bsky.social)

Discord has apparently added generative AI "apps" users can use to modify any image posted in any discord server.

On by default, no way to disable them, no moderation tools.

Fuck discord, support artists (discord sure doesn't).

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[spring raven]

gross

[golden stream]

Ew

[wraith agate]

Oh yeah, saw these on mobile a while ago and I was like "can we not?"

[dull garnet]

reminder that the largest community discord is the midjourney one

💀

[lost python]

[dire viper]

[sly walrus]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/with-rtx-50-series-cards-not-supporting-32-bit-physx-some-owners-are-taking-to-shoving-a-secondary-card-into-their-rig-just-to-run-older-games-better/

nvidia has recreated proprietary graphics drivers

[dull garnet]

bit dramatic considering how few games support physx

[glad dove]

10+y old games for us boomers with big backlogs

[dull garnet]

wow I didn't even realise Blur was on PC

[brave oxide]

welcome back SLI

actually would be funny if they did something like SLI to scale back GPU size/power usage, a dedicated companion card with all the extra stuff they have been adding

[hazy frost]

The development it would take to get that to work would be a pain I imagine

SLI didn’t die without good reason

It was actually kind of ass

[dull garnet]

you're saying a 30% uplift in performance from a whole other GPU isn't enough?

[hazy frost]

Subject to it actually working too lmao

Between driver issues and just more inherent things to the technology it was kind of just awful for a lot of stuff mostly gaming

[sharp star]

The children yearn for SLI/NVLink

[hazy frost]

No mention for crossfire…

😔

[brave oxide]

In this house we bleed green

The only red I want to see is the fire extinguisher

[dire viper]

Ferrari 458 Aperta Giallo Modena (Bottom) & Ferrari 812 Superfast painted in Rosso Dino (Top)

[dull garnet]

Very true. Most people that I know that had it eventually just left it off and then removed the second gpu

[hazy frost]

Anyone I know who actually utilised it wasn’t using it for gaming

The only time people did was like the 980 SLI rigs lol

One higher performance card usually is/was better for most workloads

[odd sand]

But if it's not scraping their art to train the algo, does that really matter? If you post shit to Discord, anyone can already download it and do whatever they want with it. It's like an IG filter or something it sounds like

[sly elk]

neat

instead of getting a title for me the dealer just gave me the certificate of origin, which is just as good but I've never seen one of those before

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/4x9aRW_gVlw?si=G7QfThcKllY8dw3t

[sharp star]

Ordered another sheet of PTM7950

What could go wrong

[brave oxide]

I was considering getting some after you mentioned it before

but I have other expenses in line before that, might revisit that later

[sharp star]

It's real good stuff

But curing takes a bit

And application is kind of a bitch

You can make the application process easier by putting the pad in a fridge for an hour

[odd sand]

I imagine after being in the fridge it's kinda like working with lead sheets or something

Or how I imagine working with lead sheets is

Or cutting cheese slices heh

[sly elk]

ooo neat a two tone paint job of my 2 least favorite car colors ever

[dire viper]

https://www.cars.com/vehicle/36c79189-3b71-4eae-8da1-91391461d42a

[sly elk]

heck yea!

but my goodness i'd rather have a new one lol 😄

[dire viper]

It’s a 718 GTS

So exactly same as a brand new one

It’s actually a deal cause I think the brand new GTS start at 95k now

After the price increases

It’s got a forged carbon hood and wing, which honestly look good with the body color

PDK, doesn’t have lots of options so it’s acceptable

It’s got the suede seats it looks like which is cool

[odd sand]

This is pretty cool ngl:
https://youtu.be/-lErGZZgUbY?t=104

[sly elk]

i waaant ooonne

;_; soldered on ram

still cheaper than a mac studio

[dire viper]

@sly elk BMW’s US factory is yet again the largest auto exporter in the US

10 billion in export value in 2024, 100 billion over the last 10 years

Literally BMW making a factory in the US entirely so they can monopolize the SUV craze and it has paid off insanely well

Beating Range Rover at their own game even after fixing Range/Land Rover during BMW ownership

BMW Plant Spartanburg can once again claim the title of leading automotive exporter by value, having exported nearly 225,000 vehicles totaling over 10.1 billion dollars. In the last ten years, the South Carolina plant has grown to become BMW’s largest in the world and has exported over 2.7 million vehicles totaling over 100 billion in value.

I guess we will see how the 800 volt architecture Neue Class EV’s hold up when they hit the market

BMW spent a lot of money on them but as lots of automakers pull away from EV’s I wonder if they’ll sink the company

Porsche canceled the electric Cayman/Boxster

VW group isn’t investing into EV’s as much as they were

And Tesla sales are miserable

Only the niche EV makers like Rivian and Lucid are staying strong because they make a product that is indisputably superior to other options. Expensive, but better.

Bugatti/Rimac

[muted spoke]

It helps that the sc plants are all non-union, so they're doing their part by screwing over the workers

[dire viper]

They haven’t been involved in a suit regarding workers rights for a while

That is to say they definitely have been sued before for discrimination

They also pay fair wages as far as I know for the US plant

[golden stream]

at least they have explanation on soldered memory though

[odd sand]

It's a mobile SoC, so presumably the GPU shares memory with the CPU. So normal memory would slow down the interconnect by a lot, I assume.

[golden stream]

the CEO explained though, in both LTT vid and the live event
modular memory as usual would have too great latecy, and AMD engineer simulated it

so it's the situation of we have good things work properly

there are leaks/rumours of Fold 7
ngl I feel like kinda mixed, unsure if it's worth to upgrade from 5

[sharp star]

The 50 series is missing flames and ROPs

[pine thistle]

kinda silly unless they want to lose to Chinese companies I guess

[sharp star]

Does nothing
Wins
中华人民共和国万岁！

[pine thistle]

lol yep

just giving up is probably not the play but hey, the CEOs get paid anyway

[lost python]

i want to burn asus

my gf suddenly had issues with her GPU not putting out any signal.
lots of trouble shooting later, i reset the bios and suddenly it works perfectly fine... but ofc it took me a while to figure out that AMD hides their XMP/DOCP settings behind the "AI Overclock Tuner"

and now ofc because the bios was reset, it tries to install its bloatware onto windows again

[sharp star]

lmao Asus

I think we rag on Asus and MSI the most here

Especially MSI

[lost python]

my B550 tomahawk board ran 500 times better and was easier to use than this 400$ piece of shit dark hero motherboard that doesnt even have enough fan headers for a regular case

my current asrock b650 is also surprisingly good though

[sharp star]

Ask Sarah about her Multiple Serious Issues

[wraith agate]

What do they call this business strategy?

[hazy frost]

asrock is go to for am5 stuff rn tbh

theyre both better for the money and just better objectively than most competitors' models

their x870 was like $170

[lost python]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxjk6wlssjUSlJpjC0nnO_ylE2UYwfHUj_?si=mK6SjioEz5bFjCM4

[sharp star]

AMD is funny but more “haha” funny than Nvidia

[hazy frost]

how are peoplke still complaining about prices when its competitors are like $300+ more than the amd cards lol

like yeah both are in fact bad but in reality its probably launching at a good price

[golden stream]

Gotta consider the troubleshoot tax though

For CC, some tasks need CUDA, although AMD is getting some support
No fun shtuff for gaming like raytrace yadayada
AI self host is....weird, but it ain't run as well as greenies even though having more vram for better price

and somehow AMD driver is kinda brokey on my rig?????

Software ready is painge for team red though

[hazy frost]

I mean RT it does well this gen and the 9070xt is supposed to be even better, FSR 4 should be good, cuda replacement works in some software atm getting better

It’s really not close to being enough downsides for the $500 cheaper people are expecting it to be

People wanting the 9070xt to be $550 is just insane

If it’s specifically cuda stuff tho u know ur not buying an AMD gpu anyway so it doesn’t rly matter what the price is

[golden stream]

I'd rather waiting for the stock and hype die down a bit, as well as better software compatibility
At least AMD route I can go full throttle linux, but will test more on some stuff I use often
At least I have an old 1660 OC to fall back a wee bit
joke aside, SEA AMD stock is BAD

[hazy frost]

5070ti is like $1000+ lol 9070xt will be good if it’s anything under $750

And no missing rops

Downside is Nvidia has the new house warming feature to save money in winter when it sets ur room on fire

[golden stream]

ASSUMING same price no weird SEA price

[golden stream]

I kid u not, winter in northern Nam is HELLA BAD
It's humid, it's cold, it's windy

[hazy frost]

I mean yeah but the 5070ti price is crazy it would be hard to make it a bad deal rn

[hazy frost]

It’s humid cold and windy in the UK as well

Still would rather my pc didn’t set on fire

[golden stream]

Then again, weird ass SEA price, but lemme see my place's price

[hazy frost]

Part of me wants to sell my 4070ti for a profit off what I paid new and buy a new gpu in a few months but I can’t be one of those people

[golden stream]

Huh, 5080 price is up, no 5070 and Ti on

And also p varied

[hazy frost]

Cheapest 5070ti is £900 here

But it’s preorder

So the ones u can actually get ate like £1200

[golden stream]

Quick recap for 5080:
Inno3d has the cheapest price point, ~1300USD, while Asus just be Asus, ~1600USD

That's just one of the more popular store

[hazy frost]

Fun

Yeah 9070xt hardly needs to be priced low rn

Bc 7900xtx and xt prices aren’t too great most places either

[golden stream]

Ok got some prices for 5070 Ti
Asus and MSI are up for now, both hovers at ~1300USD

9070 XT is around 5070Ti price point
9070 however cheaper by ~400USD

Wait

ASRock makes 9070xt????????

[hazy frost]

Why wouldn’t they

They’ve made Radeon GPUs for years

[golden stream]

ASRock has cheapest 9070 and 9070 xt so far

So roughly ~900USD for 9070 and ~1200USD for 9070 xt

[golden stream]

Not that popular as GPU brand in my place though

[hazy frost]

People caring about brand is just strange

The only one I’d actively avoid is asus lol

[golden stream]

And also availability

[lost python]

lol. mindfactory has a special section of the store for stuff that was RMAd but is working. there are several 5080s in there, i wonder why they got sent back

[golden stream]

AMD in my place/SEA is p rare in general

[golden stream]

Lack driver maybe

[hazy frost]

Missing rops

[golden stream]

🔥 maybe??????

[hazy frost]

I love when my Nvidia gpu comes with 15% missing performance for free

[golden stream]

Wait that Ricoh machine is both a printer and scanner?

[lost python]

ye

[golden stream]

If it's a laser and no need propritary bs
IMMA SNATCH IT

[lost python]

polarity stuff idk, but its laser yes

[dire viper]

No Chinese competition in the US now because of the 100% import tax

Also, even the Chinese company EV’s are slowing down

EV’s were a market fad for all intents and purposes

The main issue was that most EV’s were not normal cars for the sake of just not being normal

And all the ones that are able to command a high price are literally normal cars

[golden stream]

There're also EV issues in my place as well, the frame isn't as well built for EV engine weight, weather and stuff

And ye it's Chinese EV imported and rebranded

[dire viper]

VW used to be good cheap cars

That was their thing

They then tried to move upmarket and cater to people who don’t buy cars very often so their sales dropped, ie the tech fad group

The ID Buzz is actually good but its price is over 70k USD right now

That makes it as expensive as a Lucid Air, as expensive as a Rivian R1S

Which the Rivian lineup is an SUV and a pickup truck that have proven to be more capable than any other factory option for all the fun stuff like off-roading and general truck things

Pickup truck with more power and torque than any available diesel or gas option

Pickup truck than more torque than most tractors (semis)

Only thing keeping it down is the battery availability and the fact the motors aren’t geared to multiply the torque to even higher levels

[hazy frost]

Does it suffer from terrible range when towing tho

I haven’t seen anyone actually use it for that

[dire viper]

Not that bad

Not compared to the cybertruck or ford lightning

Cybertruck gets like 90 miles while towing from full battery

The Rivian is odd because it has an actual full on towing mode

I think the hitch tongue is one of the fancy ones where it can measure the weight you are pulling and it adjusts things based on that

That’s how air ride pickups (like the Rivian) adjust the suspension

But I’d assume with the Rivian that it changes the acceleration and battery output

Found a guy who logged a towing trip with about 4000lbs

2.14 mi/kWh

He says he got about 4% of his battery life back with regen braking

Up and down and up and down the Colorado Rockies

[hazy frost]

Yeah Cybertruck is obviously bad but lightning was the one I was thinking of

[hazy frost]

I mean that’s pretty good tbf

I don’t get the obsession with insane amounts of range with EVs anyway bc after a certain length most people are taking a break anyway before continuing

I mean ur not meant to drive like 7 hours straight anyway

[sly elk]

in my part of socal i'd say ev charger availability lol

also bad road trip cars if you're going to go on a holiday because so is everyone else so the charging stations will be full and have a long line

but

BUT

[dire viper]

I meant the Rivians towing

[sly elk]

WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS GO STRAIGHT TO ROAD TRIPS WITH EVS

it's bullshit excuses

[dire viper]

Cause they’re stupid

[sly elk]

how the fuck often does that jackass actually take road trips anyway

that's hwo you end up owning a shitty cuv

"I MIGHT NEED IT!"

[dire viper]

If you’re gonna drive that much buy a Cayman/Boxster with extended gas tank :)

[sly elk]

can't they be honest with themselves like me LmAO I don't need a jeep and i fucking never will

but i bought one just because fuck it

[dire viper]

True

I want a jag 😔

Honestly I can’t decide

[sly elk]

those pops and cracks

[dire viper]

Jaguar F-Type V6 S or Corvette Z06 for next car

Both same price

[sly elk]

imma come stuff a potato in your tail pipe 😛

[dire viper]

Jag is just more modern

And also jag can be cabrio

And top down is the best

Want to be cool? Buy a fuckin convertible

Porsche selling a convertible GT4 watching as it out sells the regular GT4

[sly elk]

io have a convertibel and fucking agree

convertibles are awesome

[dire viper]

The Spyder RS

https://youtu.be/81GD96cPv90?t=217&si=iQtJ-mQtjYnjP0uR

Although Ngl

Gearing in the RS is too long

Old regular Spyder probably better

PDK is an option but it’s lower gearing

Still not low enough but lower

The regular Spyder also looks good

[hazy frost]

Z06 surely

The F type looks great and all but that engine is so much more underwhelming than other cars imo

[dire viper]

Yea but Z06 no convertible

And the V6 F-Type is slower

Which is better for canyon driving imo

I like to work for the speed

Driving PDK in the canyons here is so ass

50mph first gear is cringe

[hazy frost]

Yeah ig I can’t comment on that I’m not a convertible fan in general

[dire viper]

I wasn’t until the M3

Coupes are too insulating

[hazy frost]

Was looking at e36s and all the ones below 20k are convertibles

[dire viper]

Especially with how lots of modern cars cover up the sporty bits with enough sound deadening you can only hear intake

[hazy frost]

Maybe it’s bc UK it rains too much I cba to deal with them with soft tops especially

I can see them being more fun elsewhere

[dire viper]

That’s crazy. To find an E36 M3 for a reasonable price here it has to be a 4 door

[hazy frost]

I agree that slower cars fast can be more fun as well

[dire viper]

4 doors are usually under 10k

[hazy frost]

Most roads here are winding

[hazy frost]

E36s are considerably more than e46s here rn

Which is annoying

[dire viper]

But also they were selling like 25-30k M3’s a year in the states during the E36 run

Which is wild

The E46 was way more expensive

[hazy frost]

I could buy an e46 CS for the same price as an e36

[dire viper]

E46 M3 was more expensive than the G80 comp is adjusting for inflation

[hazy frost]

Yeah

Idk what’s with 36 prices tho

I’m missing smth im sure

[dire viper]

Ppl like the E36 too much

It’s a great car

But also you guys don’t even get the US engine

[hazy frost]

I like it more than the 46 but when a CS is the same price then it’s no longer better even to me lol

[dire viper]

The US engine is a lot more reliable with the same torque

So it runs to 60 about the same

[hazy frost]

The US got a few engines I’d like

The s2k didn’t get the newer engine

[dire viper]

I want an S54 Z3M Coupe

[hazy frost]

So ur stuck with 1k rpm higher peak thrashing the shit out of it

[hazy frost]

Idk what prices are like in the US bc BMWs are seemingly a lot cheaper here for practically every model

I wanted an s14a out of nostalgia but their prices went up so started looking at m3s potentially

[dire viper]

Z3 coupes are expensive expensive

Non M still 25k

Z3M coupe… 30k+ even in bad condition cause people cope

Most car buyers buy and sell emotionally

Which is why they always lose money

[dull garnet]

my bro has a Z4 M

[dire viper]

Z4 M is nice

Same engine and transmission set up as my car

Just nicer looking

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/dBMguDfirgA?si=qg8C8EsMhCsur_SJ

[sly elk]

yea i like it

[sly elk]

why do they have the aesthetic of that brown truck from the movie with the evil truck

[dire viper]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/mazda-quietly-broke-a-38-year-sales-record-because-its-not-the-mazda-you-remember @sly elk

Mazda is a masterclass in giving just enough options to customers

CX-5 and CX-50 are essentially the same thing, one just is more off-road orientated so it attracts an entirely different market

[odd sand]

Speed3 and Speed6 revival when?

[dire viper]

never

cause the 6 doesnt exist anymore

and the 3 has a turbo model already

[odd sand]

Oh the Mazda6 was canned? Sadface. My last car was a 2011 Mazda6 when they first had the Kodo styling

Will people ever get off the SUV train? They're lame and boring and cost too much

[dire viper]

no

Mazda makes good SUV's

that are affordable

so not the norm

they do the thing that most SUV's dont

they dont do the SUV thing

they do the car thing

[odd sand]

Then why not just make a car?

[dire viper]

because people dont want cars

[odd sand]

I just don't like how high off the ground they are.

Even stuff like the Outback or EV6 are still like a foot or more of ground clearance

[dire viper]

market demands SUV's because SUV's give off an air of utility that they usually dont actually possess

also the average age of a new car buyer is 56 in the US

so old people want something easy to get into

[odd sand]

Because they keep making them more and more expensive so nobody can afford new anymore heh

[dire viper]

actually just wages

[odd sand]

porque no los dos

[dire viper]

cars didnt price spike significantly until the last 2 years

the pre 2008 time was very very very expensive for cars