technology-discussion

[potent arrow]

asking too much from them

I expect beta build to become demo

[hazy frost]

Pain

I’m sure they will which is annoying lmao

I guess on steam can buy and refund atl to see

All I can say is at least it’s not as bad as the Ark remake was

[potent arrow]

ark remake was among the worst running games I know

only second to TLOU remake

[hazy frost]

I’ve heard the remake has gotten better and new maps aren’t as garbage as the first 2 but I don’t believe them

[sharp star]

GPU hotspot not going above 65C

lol

[potent arrow]

nice

[sharp star]

I got three minutes left

Whatever Honeywell put in this stuff, it's black magic

[potent arrow]

how much did it cost you

[hazy frost]

Isn’t that just the temps it should be with any new paste

[potent arrow]

newer paste

[sharp star]

Probably

[potent arrow]

the Honeywell stuff doesn't really dry out

I considered it for my clients

[sharp star]

538 PHP

[potent arrow]

but I also realized it would lose me business

[sharp star]

For a sheet of 70x40

[potent arrow]

and the upfront cost was too much lol

[hazy frost]

I mean ig it’s nice for convenience but changing it every 2-3 years isn’t that bad to save money with how cheap other stuff is

If it was drying out every 6 months I’d probably use it

[potent arrow]

consider we also are comfortable with removing the cooler lol

I know plenty of people who have a mental headache over it and just don't

[hazy frost]

Yeah but I mean if someone’s replacing it at all they’re gonna have to do it atl once and u learn after that

[potent arrow]

and their thermals go to shit over the entire lifetime of their pc

[hazy frost]

If it’s prebuilts it would make sense but their margins suck usually anyway

Some of the higher end prebuilts definitely should but probably won’t

[potent arrow]

i would guess they wouldn't just like I didnt

[hazy frost]

I’d probably use it actually if I was doing a loop for my gpu just because cleaning that is something I’m too lazy to do often

[potent arrow]

I want to sell my yearly check up contracts lol

[hazy frost]

I mean people who are already up a huge markup on products bc of brand

Like star forge or AW are already making huge amounts on their stuff they could atl add a few things like that

$2000 for a ryzen 7600 and 4070 moment

Then again taking the cooler off and losing warranty is also annoying

[sharp star]

Gonna download the MH Wilds benchmark and see if I can stress the GPU above 65c that way

FurMark didn't cut it

[hazy frost]

Honestly gaming for extended periods would be what got my gpu temps to actually rise and the benchmarks were just for stability testing

Like any half decent cooler on a gpu now will keep it reasonable for 30 mins bc of how overbuilt they are even on cheaper cards

Though cyberpunk and MW were doing more than superposition and furmark did lol

[potent arrow]

the time to heatsoak most of these coolers seemingly is longer now

[hazy frost]

It’s bc they have coolers 3x bigger than the old GPUs on the market while drawing the same amount of power

[potent arrow]

side note, I wondering if the 5070ti will have stock

[hazy frost]

Probably not lol

Or rather still not enough for demand

If they don’t have an abundance of them the 9070xt launch will look especially good

[sharp star]

My 4090 isn't going past 67C

Good enough

(MH Wilds benchmark)

Also put a pad in my Steam Deck for good measure

[sharp star]

Now I'm just putting whatever PTM7950 I have left on handhelds

[wraith agate]

You might be addicted

[sharp star]

Yeah lol

So far I put them on a 4090, a 9800X3D, two Steam Decks, and one Switch

I still have enough for a couple handhelds or three, depending on the die sizes

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhtVic3Vm0Y

[brave oxide]

[hazy frost]

no one couldve forseen this

all the cards will be +super from last gen

[lost python]

this shit will only continue with coming generations

maybe its time to cycle back to console gaming

[brave oxide]

too bad we dont have crypto miners to blame this time

[severe stream]

Blame ai bubble

Nvidia can stop selling gamer gpu and still would earn in profit

[hazy frost]

9070xt launch next month

making my 4070ti purchase look good anyway

another year it stays

[brave oxide]

ive never been more happy about getting mine

i didnt want to wait so long to risk another paper launch

[hazy frost]

40 series was meh but this is a whole new level of disappointing anyway

[brave oxide]

was in the market for a 4070 super and ended up with a 4070 ti cheaper than 4070 super

[hazy frost]

AMD should actually have stock atl for theirs so hopefully they stay in the $750-900 range unlike the 5070ti

Optimistic when AMD said the 5070ti would be the 9070xt equivalent lol

[brave oxide]

are they also adding triple fake frames?

[golden stream]

Except self host is actually legit man

But then again I try on 4060

[hazy frost]

fsr4 exists but theyre not using it to push the sales as much as nvidia does

[dire viper]

Frame Gate

[sharp star]

good god I think I'm starting to see results but I won't see the full picture until a few days

https://www.theverge.com/news/609204/apple-iphone-16e-price-release-date-specs-a18-notch-face-id
the notch is back

[hazy frost]

For $600 I’d accept that with what else you get on it

More expensive than SE is annoying but better value despite that imo

It’s got a good main camera just no optical zoom and wide angle, still one of the best processors on the market and a reasonable battery with usb C as well now

[potent arrow]

this is by far the worst gpu launch I've seen since the 900 series loo

[dire viper]

@potent arrow

[potent arrow]

dude I took a look once and gave up and told my friend to work on it

fuck you for reminding me about that thing

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/1jcCs1qdvaQ?si=xROgmjCpkkCIilvq

Finally a car review on an affordable car for the people :)

[odd sand]

Is that an SUV? I can't tell with the door open like that lol

[dire viper]

It is

Cullinan is the SUV

[potent arrow]

tasty

[kind rune]

its so small

[potent arrow]

mother

fucker

fuck it lol

[dull garnet]

[lost python]

lol corsair

[odd sand]

I had the same problem with my homelab, had to settle for a 92mm Noctua

[compact pine]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-patrick-stewart-captain-jean-luc-picard-face-palm-disappointed-gif-4780258

[dull garnet]

atx forever

[potent arrow]

I've never air-cooled my personal pc

my bad I guess

lmaoooo

[wraith agate]

Sarah, why did you become dog

[potent arrow]

woof

[dire viper]

That’s what I got

Me when I’ve never seen my 5600X over 70

[kind rune]

The only thing I don't like about their nautilus lineup is that it isn't compatible with their lcd upgrade

[glad dove]

[dull garnet]

done

[potent arrow]

nah

test build

now I clean it up

[compact pine]

did they only have a white aio??

[potent arrow]

it was free

from my supplier LOL

I don't care, I'm not looking inside the case

building for personal:
fuck it we ball
b

building for clients:
fine I'll color match

[sly elk]

i like corsair coolers

BuT It's nOt tHe aRcTiC CoOlEr sTeVe fRoM GaMeRs nExUs sAyS To gEt

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-6367919497800974711

I demand you takeit back now and spend $100 on an arctic cooler and then fuss with the stupid cross bar mounting mechanism because steve said so

[potent arrow]

god

[dull garnet]

Imagine forming your own opinions

[sly walrus]

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/the-usd699-ai-pin-that-launched-less-than-a-year-ago-is-going-to-stop-working-at-the-end-of-february/

hahahahahahahaha

[kind rune]

Well I got this sag bracket that goes into the pci e slots

But it won't fit into 1 of them because the gpu is in the way

I don't think I can do anything about this

[potent arrow]

ok now imagine if gn worshippers saw my AIO tubing

go down and up and down LMAO

[kind rune]

I'm either gonna try a vertical mount next or leave it as is and hope

[odd sand]

@potent arrow A bit late now, but most case spec sheets will tell you how tall of a CPU cooler they can fit, and said coolers will say how tall they are in the specs as well.

[potent arrow]

it was within margin

ish

idk why it didn't fit

didn't lose anything because I had the cooler in storage lol

no biggie

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-chainsaw-loli-girl-mad-gif-16476727

[potent arrow]

felt like that tbh

Maybe one day I'll take proper care to build my personal pc

[odd sand]

DREMEL TIME

No solution more permanent than a temporary one. I never cleaned up my wiring etc. after building mine either

[potent arrow]

[glad dove]

i didnt think you had any sagging?

[kind rune]

Someone in here said my pcb is gonna crack and then my gpu will break

[dire viper]

@potent arrow that bish running yet. Can u finally game at acceptable fps 🥹

[glad dove]

ah yeah i guess i dont know.. i would assume if its screwed in well enough you'd be fine

im just leaving mine in horizontally with no bracket

[dire viper]

Oh think of all the obscene prints you could do with a computer that won’t die from over 100 polygons

Can model stuff

Yay!

Me watching my old managers computer fucking explode just trying to do CAD

Couldn’t even submit shit to send cut send 😭

[kind rune]

It doesn't look like it's sagging much at all to me either but I'm no pc expert

[potent arrow]

yes

no more league at 10fps lol

[dire viper]

Lmao

[kind rune]

i just asked someone else and they said its not that bad im leaving it as is

[glad dove]

nice, good to hear

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/Da8bp89sBOk?si=zAFAYGRqE0q6jDim @potent arrow

bro got his truck license just so he can transport his cars around

[sly elk]

well at least it isn't spraying coolant anymore

also who doesn't love panda theme computers

or penguin theme

your c omputer looks great 🙂

[potent arrow]

ayee ty ty

its about time I replaced it lol

[potent arrow]

old

new

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983944768801374288/1341992132965040199/image.png?ex=67b80311&is=67b6b191&hm=8e18d9cabff530cc75addf9b2e28d4547c9e123304f568a6c2de906fefe97931&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2000&height=837

@lost python @inland mauve

[sly walrus]

i'm looking at a 4080 super

if only because 5070s are gonna be a motherfucker to get

[potent arrow]

the 50 anything doesnt exist

I got this for way overpriced but at least it exist lmao

2100$ for this fucking thing but eh

[kind rune]

That's almost double how much my 5080 was

[potent arrow]

2100$ cad so its much worse

and like

5080 are none existent here

[inland mauve]

nice

[kind rune]

Newegg + alert servers help

[potent arrow]

I dont have the time for that lmao

my pc was dying

like dying dying

I bought this on fb marketplace LMAO

[inland mauve]

I want to play DBD with you and Ashki again some time

last time was fun

[potent arrow]

yeee

her reading week is coming up

so we could probally then

[inland mauve]

yeyeye

[potent arrow]

meanwhile canada lol

[inland mauve]

that's awful

[potent arrow]

lmfaoooooo

WEEEE

[dire viper]

funny production car that hits redline in less than a second

[glad dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Microcenter/comments/1itqj45/tustin_microcenter_5070ti_stock/ rip 50+ ppl camping all night for a midrange gpu

[paper tusk]

[wild wyvern]

@real edgehttps://czone.my/czone/vg246h1a-1739107178.html i think this should be good tbh

[real edge]

I linked you a philips one didn't i?

is it too expensive?

[wild wyvern]

ofc

but this gaming monitor seems good

[wild wyvern]

i dont need a expensive one fyi

[real edge]

its only like 80myr more expensive

[wild wyvern]

yes but doesnt mean i would get it tbh lol

[real edge]

but its so much better only for like 18 usd

[wild wyvern]

im expected to use till it breaks

[real edge]

even more of a reason to then tbh

if ur gonna keep it for the next half a decade or more and use it daily

I do not like to say this but

just trust me

ive owned a pc for like 17-18 years at this point

ur gonna be staring at the thing for hours daily

[wild wyvern]

yeah

[wild wyvern]

@real edge I felt the performance of my pc wasn't that good anymore

It only could run some games on 30ish fps

[real edge]

thats why you're changing everything from the ground up

to get more than 30

[wild wyvern]

Even xiv performance isn't that good anymore

[real edge]

with a 5700x and a gpu whatever u find, 7600xt/7600/6600xt/6650xt

ull be able to get more than 100

in ffxiv

[wild wyvern]

I'm just getting what GPU I can get rn

[real edge]

ye

not that big of a market over there

just don't hesitate to look at the used market

[wild wyvern]

well I will

[real edge]

I was getting

like

more than 120fps with my 1070 and 2700x

at 1080p in ffxiv

so ull get more than that

[lost python]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1itxoh7/rtx_5080_vs_980ti_physx/

[glad dove]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-32gb-gddr7-graphics-card-dark-gun-metal/6614151.p?skuId=6614151 bestbuy about to drop 5090 at 9am est

good luck to anyone attempting

[inland mauve]

why is the 980Ti segment missing the fps counter and why does he only throw three grenades

[lost python]

3 grenades to make it even worse ofc

but the 5000 series removed physx support

at least older versions of it, like used in bl2

[inland mauve]

oh my god why

the 5000 series sounds like a big joke

[brave oxide]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1isw6bp/apparently_32bit_physx_games_no_longer_works_on/

[kind rune]

This is the smallest issue of all time

[lost python]

just go back full circle to 2008 and buy a dedicated physx card

[kind rune]

How many people with 1000+ dollar gpus even play games that use physx

[brave oxide]

well that list has some titles in bold that someone with 1000 dollar gpus might play

[hazy frost]

the fact that a 1000 dolalr gpu cant play any games that arent actually even that old yet is just insane lmao

[brave oxide]

it's not like you are forbidden from playing older games based on how much you spent on a GPU lol

[hazy frost]

theres a ton of games that use it

i had a $800 gpu and still played games that dont require it

but like BL2, metro 2023, batman, metro last light, and assassins creed lol

all things that can utilise 1000+ gpus

[kind rune]

You aren't but you have to really want the bleeding edge of technology to spend this much on a graphics card so I doubt most who would do that care about their performance in a few 15+ year old games

[hazy frost]

theyre not 15 years old tho..?

[kind rune]

Especially since you can turn it off too

[brave oxide]

that makes no sense, people who spend 1000 on a GPU are the ones that care the most about performance

having an old title tanking fps would be annoying

[hazy frost]

its a massive cope to say it doesnt matter bc even if people arent regularly playing these old games u shouldnt not be able to run them properly when u spend THAT much on hardware

[lost python]

a lot more people would play physx titles if it wasnt just another gimmick of nvidia that they dumped after it lost its initial novelty and they couldnt abuse it for marketing anymore.

[kind rune]

Who buys thousands of dollars of hardware for the most performance to play games they more than likely have had the hardware to play for 10 years now

[hazy frost]

they dont buy it just to play those games but that doesnt mean they dont also play those games

[kind rune]

Not to mention, physx was never good anyway

It always destroyed your frames in borderlands 2 for starters

[brave oxide]

i mean

[lost python]

people who would like to go back to older games?

[hazy frost]

do u think people buy a new gpu and just stop playing games they used to play and only play new ones

[brave oxide]

you don't buy a 5080 to play AC Black Flag

but if you own a 5080 it doesn't mean you will never ever play black flag again

[kind rune]

I think people don't buy their 5090 to play borderlands 2

[hazy frost]

seriously are u ignoring what we just said tho

they dont buy it TO play that game

[kind rune]

And if they did, they'll still get 300 frames with physx off anyway

[hazy frost]

they buy it and will still want to play older games as well

[brave oxide]

idk is the concept of playing older games that foreign to you?

[potent arrow]

.....Ren.

[lost python]

are you wearing one of jensens leatherjackets or what the hell

[kind rune]

And I'm saying this won't matter because they can just turn it off anyway

[hazy frost]

bought my 4070ti i cant open FF7 without it exploding now

[hazy frost]

u shouldnt need to be turning anything off to make top of the line hardware run stuff

thats like the point of buying high end hardware

[pine thistle]

Maybe they bought it to play the newest unoptimised garbage from some AAA studio and after finding out they've been scammed wanna go back to playing older games :D

if I bought a new GPU to play MH Wilds I'd be pissed if I suddenly can't play older games anymore too

[kind rune]

They can play older games

[dire viper]

Are you smoking crack or

I have maybe… 4000-5000 hours in borderlands 2 across PS3 and PC

Never had physx issues

Also just dismissing it is the number one thing you don’t do in a conversation

“Sucks 2 suck” ????

I regularly go back and play Borderlands 2

So I am not going to be purchasing a 50 series

Literally other than Division 2, it’s the only good looter shooter available

Borderlands 3 I’m iffy on

[sharp star]

we have a new bearer of the crack pipe

[sly elk]

honestly

i see the 5080 and 5090 the same way i see apple's bullshit

[sharp star]

lmao yeah

You should be fine with 40 series cards

more than fine even

[real edge]

yes

4070super / 4070ti super / 4080 super are still great

[lost python]

I'm tempted to get a 7900xtx ngl

[real edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/913340234954076171/1342015343123763200/image.png?ex=67b818af&is=67b6c72f&hm=b55b2f0e950dd3a7dd9e360a54c66c76915aee623d836fdc5413ccb1b4e5bf92&

[real edge]

wait and see how the 9070xt is first

[lost python]

Not better than it, that's for sure

Also only 16gb

[obsidian notch]

Woah

Also

[real edge]

[dire viper]

The biggest issue I have is defending a product from a company that’s being investigation for practices that are illegal

for all we know NVIDIA has been clubbing mfs behind the curtains to build a total monopoly

NVIDIA has 80% of the market, of course they’re not gonna actually try

Publicly traded company that prints money by virtue of being the only real competitor

[shadow oracle]

Somehow strix halo pulls almost double the power of a 4070 and 370HX at idle......

AMD what the fuck did you do

[dire viper]

Yes

[shadow oracle]

And also worse performance despite pulling more power than a 4070 and 14900H

[hazy frost]

Given that outside of the 5090 they’re basically the same as the super cards it’s a pretty easy decision lol

[shadow oracle]

[hazy frost]

So long as they’re in stock

[shadow oracle]

It's cool but also like

[dire viper]

Isn’t the Strix doing both CPU and GPU load?

[shadow oracle]

It's pulling more whole system power is the problem

[dire viper]

Yea

Less battery life

Well. More battery drain

[hazy frost]

Actually might be

Based on what’s come out so far

But 16gb yeah

[shadow oracle]

Like it sorta negates the fsct that on package igp is supposed to be more efficient

[dire viper]

AMD give us an affordable 32GB GPU, and my life is yours

[shadow oracle]

When it's just, not

[hazy frost]

What settings is that on

[real edge]

ultra

no ray tracing

dlss quality

[shadow oracle]

Anyway strix halo is a cool product but power draw is such a problem for it lol

For laptop usage I don't think it'll be good

But mini PCs should be pretty good

[hazy frost]

That’s weird bc it’s less than my 4070ti

[real edge]

whats your cpu

[hazy frost]

Only the 7700x

[real edge]

mh wilds is cpu bound

[hazy frost]

The 5800x3d shouldn’t be behind like that tho

[shadow oracle]

It does because the 5800x3d hasn't aged that well

[dire viper]

Ngl

Wilds is a shit

[real edge]

also I have not enabled XMP on my ram lol

[dire viper]

It’s a Dragons Dogma 2 type deal

[shadow oracle]

WELL THERE'S YOUR PROBLEM

[hazy frost]

Enabling RT dropped me like 3 fps lol

[shadow oracle]

uses a memory hungry architecture

[hazy frost]

Ok that’s why then

[shadow oracle]

runs memory at JEDEC

[real edge]

5800x3d is not that memory hungry

[hazy frost]

[real edge]

the non x3d parts are

[shadow oracle]

The big cache can't compensate for everything

[real edge]

but the x3d removed the need for superfast ram

[shadow oracle]

Yes but there's a baseline need for memory bandwidth

And running it at JEDEC is not it

[real edge]

last time I ran my ram at xmp it died within a year

[hazy frost]

It would be as fast as my 7700x with it on for gaming purposes

[real edge]

[shadow oracle]

??? How

Return that shit

[hazy frost]

That’s not because of it that’s just unlucky

[real edge]

my last bluescreen problems all was due to the ram

[shadow oracle]

Oh right

[hazy frost]

My first ddr5 kit died in a month with expo on

[shadow oracle]

Yeah I remember

Do you have any airflow across your dimm slots

[real edge]

uhhhh

I have a deepcool ak620

and three case fans

[shadow oracle]

That's fine

[real edge]

the deepcool fan is right above the ram

[shadow oracle]

Yeah that's fine

Only asked cos heat Induced instability is a thing that's surprisingly common lol

[real edge]

after the last case of ram shitting the bed I am kinda hesitant to enable XMP

[shadow oracle]

It's probably fine

[hazy frost]

It’s not an XMP thing

Literally everyone on am4 has been running xmp for years

[shadow oracle]

No it might be if the die is really shit

[hazy frost]

That’s a shit die thing tho at that point

[shadow oracle]

There's a couple dies that cannot accept 1.35V

[hazy frost]

I mean generally that doesn’t happen because of xmp

[shadow oracle]

Yes but corsair still uses them for XMP kits

[hazy frost]

Lmao

Corsair LPX

Good stuff

[shadow oracle]

Classic

[hazy frost]

Incredible

[real edge]

I bought a g.skill kit

some neo stuff

[hazy frost]

My first ddr5 kit was Corsair and also sucked

[real edge]

3600mhz cl16

[hazy frost]

Sometimes it’s just bad luck

If it does break u can just RMA and not tell them u turned XMP on

[real edge]

thats what I bought

sk hynix is one of the worst dies isn't it

and b.die samsung is the best?

[hazy frost]

Hynix isn’t one of the worst dies it’s just their best quality is or was worse than B die for ddr4

What’s the new one tho

Or is that it

I didn’t read it properly

[real edge]

new one?

[hazy frost]

Did u not replace it bc of issues?

[real edge]

ye

thats the new one

[shadow oracle]

Yesnt

BDie is like a lottery

Unless you buy binned BDie most of it is pretty garbage

But if it's binned then it's really good

[brave oxide]

i had b.die samsung before and yeah, i got the shitty end of that lottery lol

[shadow oracle]

Funny DDR4 dies that can't do XMP

[shadow oracle]

I bought BDie binned for 4400C19 at 1.45V and they're pretty good

[brave oxide]

but tbh it was a cheap stick so I can't complain

[shadow oracle]

I've got it running at 4000 17-18-18-27 at 1.35V

[brave oxide]

I got what I paid for

[hazy frost]

The most consistent ones u can get are from crucial still even if it’s not as good as b die

[shadow oracle]

Technically it's Micron Rev E

Even OEM bottom of the barrel rev E can do 4000c19 without much issues

[hazy frost]

Crucial always using micron just makes it easier to know ur not potentially getting crap

[brave oxide]

but XMP disabled is an "omg why" @real edge

[shadow oracle]

See screenshots above

[real edge]

I do not want it to die again within a year

[brave oxide]

but

thats just bad correlation

you dont know thats why it died

[hazy frost]

It’s not causation otherwise there’d be a lot of people with dead ddr4 kits

Besides LPX users they’re suffering still

[brave oxide]

if anything XMP is the safest form of overclock

[real edge]

the old ddr4 kit is not dead mind you, but it might as well be with how many bluescreens I got daily thanks to it

[brave oxide]

hell if you're worried you can go a bit slower than the rated speed

like drop it to 3200

anything better than 2066 lmao

[real edge]

thats what I did on my old kit too tbh lol, I dropped it to 3200 1.3v

[hazy frost]

Yeah so long as it’s not running jedec lol

[real edge]

so like

I should enable xmp and manually adjust the voltage and ram speed

down to 3200 and 1.3v?

[hazy frost]

I’d just run it on XMP bc it should be fine really but 3200 1.3 is better than it is rn

In cpu bottlenecked stuff the difference faster ddr4 makes with it is crazy

[dire viper]

@potent arrow Audi A8 Coupe prototype

1997

Never went into production due to cost and viability concerns

Imagine an S8 Coupe with the V10…

The modern Testarossa

[real edge]

I am very scared of the same problems popping up again tbh, id rather not have to spend another 90 euro on a ram kit

[sly walrus]

i have decided

4070 super

fuck the 50s

[potent arrow]

based

I went for a 4080s

[real edge]

tbh my instinct says

that my old ram was just bad luck

and that I should not be afraid

and if I am I should just tone down the voltage and ram speed

[hazy frost]

But u can just send it back for a refund

If it breaks that quickly it’s in warranty

[dull garnet]

just run memtest86 on it for like an hour

[hazy frost]

And yeah it sucks when it happens but it’s not a trend at least

[hazy frost]

U mean u dont want a 4070 super super for a $400 markup and fake frames??

4070 super was actually the best value card last gen too it’s a good choice

[glad dove]

@kind rune yeah that was pointless from bestbuy

friends, coworkers, and i all failed

[kind rune]

[lost python]

https://youtu.be/3nfEkuqNX4k

"so we matched the true day 1 user experience for all six of you who got a video card on day 1"

[real edge]

thanks to you I started the return process for the old faulty ram

I kinda doubt the thing will go through tho but

why not

its free

[dire viper]

I am vindicated

I was right

[real edge]

the reason why I doubt it is because I cannot find the old ram box and the name on the order is not mine its the owner of the house but

[dire viper]

It is shitty graphics engineering

Native could look good if studios allowed enough time and budget for proper implementation of things like anti aliasing

[lost python]

nah bro, just slap vaseline over it, the players dont notice it anyway

[dire viper]

Yes

God

Also god we are suffering from up scaling and the push of “realistic” graphics

[real edge]

dlss 4 transformer model is good, but only for the upscaler, anything else is meh

[lost python]

i am just so tired of seeing ghosting and artifacts everywhere because if you disable upscaling you either have shit performance or the game is flimmering like crazy.

not too long ago people were spending lots of money on new monitors that minimize ghosting issues and now they get it no matter what they got

[hazy frost]

The regular upscaling model and especially Ray reconstruction is really good but u can use that on old cards so it’s still a nice feature

There’s a few small artefacts and funny things with RR on occasion but nothing id notice anymore while playing

Frame gen input latency and vaseline filter is still very real

[dire viper]

Yup

We love paper product launches and we love when the product isn’t even good

[hazy frost]

Quality on old model or balanced on new model is as far as I can go tho

And only at 1440p and up

The performance settings and balanced on the old model is so garbage even at higher native res

[dire viper]

So right now, the best PC for your money is a 7800X3D and a 4080

Think that’s about right

[hazy frost]

7800x3d and a 7900xtx rn

[glad dove]

[hazy frost]

4080 prices suck bc of 5080

[dire viper]

Fair enough

[hazy frost]

After they go back down yeah p much

[dire viper]

AMD drop the fucking 32GB card with drivers that finally make it good in work station settings

Kill NVIDIA

[hazy frost]

If u can’t afford it then the r5 7600 4070 super build is also great value

[hazy frost]

I hope they make it but it won’t be for a while now either way which sucks

I don’t think they entirely know what they’re trying to compete with this gen and it might be bc the Nvidia competitors suck much more than expected

Like 9070xt is supposed to be a 5070ti competitor but probably closer to a 5080 competitor in reality

[glad dove]

yeah i think we need to wait for next cardgen

[hazy frost]

9070 I see being like the 7800xt on launch where it’s too expensive to make sense vs last gen as well tho

6800xt was the same thing but cheaper for ages

[real edge]

I got the 4080 super for like 1k euro

[glad dove]

if its close to 5080 and 5080 is 1600$, its a steal at <1000$

[real edge]

how much is it now lol

[hazy frost]

Yeah most expensive 9070xt model known of is the $900 ones and even at retail there’s 5080s around like 1200 iirc

[real edge]

WHAT THE FUCK

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[glad dove]

5080 is 999$ (not obtainable) up to 1600$

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[lost python]

thats all stock we got left in germany of the 4080 super

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s insane the 9070xt starts at $750 up to $900

[real edge]

:x

[hazy frost]

Price point of the 5070ti but should perform better

Unlike the 7900xt price vs the 4070ti lol

It was like £150 more on release

[glad dove]

ya

[hazy frost]

Cheapest 4080 in the UK is £1500

5080s are on preorder anywhere from £950 to £1500

[potent arrow]

that looks so cheap....sees euros oh...

[hazy frost]

Some companies in the UK have started trying to charge more after buyers placed pre orders too for the 5080/90 tho

[lost python]

5080 is 1500 here, 5090 is 3500. 4090 is 3000

[odd sand]

They stopped making them and there's no stock of the 50 series either so...

[hazy frost]

My used 4090 dream isn’t looking too good rn

[odd sand]

Bet it looks all shiny and new in your dreams

[hazy frost]

Even 3090s are back to like £800 used and they were £450 a while back

[potent arrow]

it's fucked all round

can't believe I just spent ~4000$ on a pc

[hazy frost]

I’m glad I got a gpu when I did now atl even thinking last gen was mediocre

[potent arrow]

but that's par for the course rn

[hazy frost]

I spent like £1600 in early 2023

So just over 2 years ago now

And yet it costs just as much in the current market now lmao

If not more

I was really banking on Intel not sucking soon bc they have the RT and XeSS down more than AMD do with it and FSR

[potent arrow]

giving my remnants of my old PC a good funeral

thinking a pyre or a burning oil drum

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[dire viper]

Sarah buy me a 4080

[potent arrow]

no

[hazy frost]

I don’t have any remnants of my last one bc I had to use a laptop in between

[dire viper]

Or wait

Impala

[potent arrow]

you can have my 3060

[dire viper]

Impala has money

[dire viper]

No

[potent arrow]

I promise it works

[hazy frost]

I need a 5090 for homework

lol I just saw news about 5070 and 5060 delays too

This makes the base 9070 launch even easier bc people want a new gpu and it has no competitor

[potent arrow]

market is fucked

[odd sand]

90s all over again. I did the math on what my dad paid for our powermac back then and it was around that after inflation...

[potent arrow]

[sharp star]

I need a 5090 to emulate old Pokemon games

[hazy frost]

I bought a 4070ti and then just played league and terraria for like a year

I will never learn from my purchase mistakes

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/4ePfHSZsF0g?si=sWw-sTRLESmTjD0A

Unimogs on US roads are so funny

[cerulean talon]

Working on winning some 5070s from Newegg rn

Won their raffles before, planning on doing it again

[dull garnet]

feeling good with my 5800x3d/4070 upgrade 2 years ago

my friend just bought a complete system from Scan with a 5080 & 9800X3D for about £2500

[hazy frost]

Scan have shit customer service in my experience but they atl won’t try and rip u off more than standard on new hardware

Some places like box not so much lmao

[dull garnet]

yeah he's spent the last few days getting the ram adjusted lol

god knows why they suggest 5600 for a 9800X3D

[late basalt]

Ngl if I was spending that much money it’d be on a car

At least that retains value better than a gpu

(Unless it’s a Tesla)

[gentle star]

Lmao 4070ti super to play HFW and then hopped to xiv like a week later
(To be fair it's at 3840x1600)

[dire viper]

Meh

Cars are bad rn for value

Which is good actually

If exotics aren’t selling for outrageous auction prices it scares all the smaller scammers away from trying to scalp cars

[hazy frost]

XIV now is actually somewhat wanting decent hardware atl lol

[dire viper]

I’m laughing every time I check the Porsche forums of people taking out loans to buy a 150,000 dollar exotic car and then now the car is worth 70

[hazy frost]

Who suggested that lol

[sly walrus]

damn, 70 bucks can buy you a car?

i should get on that

[dire viper]

Lmao

I wish

There is huge cope with middle age car resellers

It takes a shit ton of effort to properly resell cars

You need to know people, you need to know cars and their market position

Most money from the exotic car dealers is from customers they have who pay them an X amount of money up front to find X car with X options

[gentle star]

Yeah, I get like 105fps at this point in places that aren't bogged down like cities lol

8700k@5ghz crying in limsa lol

[hazy frost]

1 of 13 corvettes in hyper specific options no one cares about I know what I have no lowballs

[dire viper]

Nah corvettes have been cheap for a long time

Z06’s that are lower in production than GT3’s and other models are like… sub 40k all day

Which is funny, cause some of the Z06’s are amazing

C5 and C6 are bargains

[hazy frost]

Cars I was looking at have gone from reasonable to stupid recently but there’s also less shitbox examples for sale

I haven’t looked at anything not sub 15k tho

[dull garnet]

just one of their defaults

looks like he had the right idea to buy a few weeks ago

[hazy frost]

Oh dear

The ram is criminal

X870e is also insane for a gaming centric build

When it was cheaper it was alright tho ig

[real edge]

-3200 pounds

-skimps on ram

[hazy frost]

Yeah they always skimp on something

There’s no really good prebuilts in the UK

AWD do good ones if u change some options urself in the spec to get a non bomb psu and decent ram

[dull garnet]

oh they went for a different sku actually, the price is the same

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/3xs-edger-rtx-amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-32gb-ddr5-16gb-nvidia-rtx-5080-2tb-ssd-win-11

looks like they changed the default ram to ram you'd actually want

[hazy frost]

£2600 for that is still kind of insane to me

Wish they’d specify which psu but I think scan actually use non explosives usually

[dull garnet]

Corsair RM850e

which is pretty good, 7 year warranty on those I think

I've considered one just because I don't have a lot of space in my Fractal compact case vs say an RM850x

[cerulean talon]

@potent arrow We getting 5070ti for MSRP

[potent arrow]

lfggg

[cerulean talon]

I have no idea what I'm gonna do with it, but MSRP GPU's ftw.

[dire viper]

Give it to me for free

You gain nothing out of the exchange

[sharp star]

Oh I remember why I have my current PSU

I had a 10+ year old Corsair AX850 that gave up the ghost

[cerulean talon]

Sorry, that offer's only available to drivers of the superior vehicles (Subarus)

[dire viper]

You know that’s not true considering the Japanese had to go to the British to win world rally championships

ProDrive made STi what it is

And ProDrive first started with Porsches, 911 SC RS

The funny $600,000 ProDrive P25. They just had Impreza bodies laying around

Subaru. British Engineering, Scottish Driving Excellence.

[sly elk]

oh my gosh

my brother broke his ipad andw ants his old kindle fire tablet back sooo I dug that out and to get his music on

basically i either use a microsd I don't have laying around right now

or I use some random shitty mtp tool on his mac... because on my windows machine the (*@#% tablet isn't showing up

this experience has been the most time consuming bullshit i've experienced in a while

and to think, if you're using any android device without microsd, mtp is pretty much your only thing available. argh fuck android.

[golden stream]

old android devices, but yes

[sly elk]

this stupid piece of shit

[odd sand]

I assume you can't find an ADB driver for that device?

[sly elk]

I finally found a way that works

and also maybe why it kept disconnecting every few minutes

sooo

one of the tools i tried made it clear that if the screen goes to sleep and the tablet locks, the file system becomes unavailable over mtp

welp xD

[pine thistle]

could run a ftp server on the phone or PC and transfer files that way

[sly elk]

https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/20/hp_deliberately_adds_15_minutes/

welp

but that just affects europe not the us

[brave oxide]

pretty sure being held for longer than 15 mins is the norm for most US support

[odd sand]

Thing is, if they do that, you just set the phone on the table and walk away for 15mins knowing they won't get to you

[shadow oracle]

https://www.techpowerup.com/332884/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-spotted-with-missing-rops-performance-loss-confirmed

HOW

[lost python]

oh god nvidia

[sharp star]

incredible

[lost python]

another cablemod adapter melted https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1iuaf3m/another_melted_12vhpwr_connector/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

because someone used an old adapter that was recalled

[shadow oracle]

Aaaaand Nvidia -50 strikes again

https://www.amazon.ca/XFX-Mercury-Radeon-Magnetic-RX-97TMARGW9/dp/B0DWP6PY32

N48 stands for Nvidia-48

[sharp star]

amazing how some people don't get the memo even a year later

[lost python]

alleged benchmarks of the 9070 xt

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/F81285j39Eg?si=ofDRcF5e9p6E3G57

The spec sheet of this car puts it among the best of the best

Wonder if it’ll sell

[shadow oracle]

LMAO

Fucking RTX 5089

[shadow oracle]

WAIT IT GWTS EVEN BETTER

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iuo8r1/nvidia_geforce_rtx_5090_spotted_with_missing_rops/

[sharp star]

I think Jensen needs to be fired into the sun

Along with his jackets

[lost python]

firegate

every single generation of the past, idk, 10 years catched fire at release

[vestal crane]

God, I just love Intel

Peak CPUs

AMD has nothing on them

@potent arrow :)

[potent arrow]

ur lucky I can't abuse my powers

lil shite

[vestal crane]

I can

[cerulean talon]

Hrm, newegg has more 50xx series cards for sale.

[sharp star]

Blink once and you'll miss it

[cerulean talon]

I've got 2 hours to enter to buy em if I want em.

Kinda wish I knew these were gonna hit totday, I would have skipped the 5070ti yesterday.

[sharp star]

No I'm gonna steal them all and smuggle them in someone's body like a mule

[dire viper]

I need a better paying job so I can buy up existing 50 series stock and then burn it all

[lost python]

skip the job part. just set nvidias warehouses on fire

[sharp star]

then pee all over the smoldering remains

[lost python]

just make sure it aint the warehouse where jensen keeps his leather jackets

[odd sand]

Is that the highest card they're releasing, or will there be one above that?

[lost python]

its the highest

and probably only?

well

9070 and 9070 xt that is

[odd sand]

Kinda disappointing then, that it doesn't even match the 7900XT in some categories...

But hey, at least it won't burn your house down right?

[lost python]

god damn

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1iuit5w/cpu_cooler_leaking/

[sharp star]

eat it

[lost python]

im not sarah

[sharp star]

fine, I'll ask her to eat it

[sharp star]

@potent arrow eat up

[sly walrus]

forbidden cake batter

[brave oxide]

Well, got new motherboard and flashed it without breaking anything

Though I did break the USB 3 front plug while removing it from my old motherboard so that's a rip

Also whoever made the 24 pin so damn hard to unplug needs to find Jesus or Allah or whoever

[dull garnet]

do people realise there's a little clip you need to undo? i've never had a problem with that plug 💀

[lost python]

nah i had a few mainboards that gripped onto it like crazy

was just as hard getting it into the damn slot

[dire viper]

Yuh

[brave oxide]

The plug is the easiest part tbh

I did it with the motherboard out of the case and it was still hard to remove

I mean the clip is the easiest part lol

It unclips easy but still hard to remove

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/1h99WjdBLyE?si=m93wWk01KZaqUd4F

Wow Aston really is going full in

The new Vantage is 80% new parts

Which the last 2 gens of Aston’s have literally been basically the same

Has the best ZF transmission on the market in it with its own custom torque converter, and a Mercedes-AMG supplied V8 but it uses custom heads, valve train and turbos specially for the Vantage

[paper tusk]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/alleged-amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-nearly-matches-rx-7900-xtx-in-leaked-furmark-4k-benchmark

[dire viper]

Interesting

[hazy frost]

Yeah I’d go by that one vulkan benchmarks are ass for telling anything ngl

It’s not long until actual release anyway

Also smth AMD GPUs had problems with bc of some drivers briefly in the past iirc

There were also some game benchmarks floating around that showed it matching the xtx or beating it with RT from what I remember

[sly elk]

that's great news

[hazy frost]

I’d be holding out for anything on actual release drivers and on actual games and not funky vulkan stuff that never works anyway

[paper tusk]

same

[dull garnet]

I love when the display driver crashes for no reason

[lost python]

i had a lot of issues in the beginning with my 6900xt, to the point i really regretted getting it

but now i have been pretty much entirely issue-free and i hope it stays that way

[potent arrow]

worth

[dull garnet]

That's good. I had this experience with a 5600G based system around early 2022 I believe

[dire viper]

God

Those knocked over figures in the other vid seemed like yours I should’ve known

That is honestly kinda cool tho

[sly elk]

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/02/chinese-volvo-customers-report-fake-bw-speakers-in-their-cars/

News started filtering out of China last week about an owner of a Volvo S60 sedan who realized the speakers in his car were not from Bowers and Wilkins, as they were supposed to be. Instead, the speakers were branded Bowers and VVilkins, substituting a pair of Vs for the W. We've seen that "typosquatting" approach in malicious emails plenty of times, but it's a first in a Volvo.

that's friggin hilarious

[dire viper]

Uh oh

That’s not hit the US yet

I was speccing Volvos last night

[sly elk]

apparently it's the dealer that was selling the speaker system?

still hilarious >>

[dire viper]

Oh

Huh

And the eBay crystal shift knobs

[wraith agate]

wait like fake brand speakers or just straight up fake speakers?

so like can they function?

[dire viper]

Fake brand speakers

[dire viper]

@potent arrow you need to buy a 911K

They may or may not be 500k

[paper tusk]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-now-investigating-black-screen-issues-across-rtx-series-gpus

[dull garnet]

wuh woh raggy

no issues for me

[paper tusk]

the dev drivers (553 branch) might fix it but I don't have any issues

since they support 5xxx generation also

[dire viper]

havent updated my drivers

I wait a while

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/Ny81UF-FI4E?si=kakKqYemMw_OYZzI

@potent arrow they're selling the V8 swapped FC RX-7 in this vid, they're selling a lotus esprit that needs a lot of work, first come first serve

@tangelo96 on insta

buy the FC and get it into Canada :)

[brave oxide]

the devil works fast, but gamers nexus works faster https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iv7277/my_5090_astral_caught_on_fire/me39rn8/

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-anya-forger-anya-spy-x-family-anime-anya-spy-x-family-spy-x-family-gif-25682632

[neon shell]

Didn’t AMD deal with a similar issue with one of their cards

[neon shell]

How are you friend

[sly elk]

today was good!

i got all my hours of work done, though not quite the amount of progress i hoped for, probably because i'm too tired to make sense

brother behaved better

[neon shell]

I’m glad he is behaving better

[neon shell]

Getting some progress done is better then none

I don’t talk to you enough. I’m always in gen chat lol

[odd sand]

The true AMD driver experience

[wild wyvern]

@real edge zotac twin edge 4060 is 1399 myr

Same as gigabyte and msi

version of the 4060

[hazy frost]

It doesn’t rly matter which one u get they’re all basically the same

Any ‘OC’ is like 50mhz and u can do it urself on any gpu with lower clocks as stock

And all of the coolers on modern GPUs are fine

[golden stream]

Unless a whooping 100+mhz different, OC ain't worth it

And even that can also undervolt, my OC card somehow ran even faster

[hazy frost]

ant gpu with a stock OC is smth u can get u rself on any gpu anyway

its not like theyre running +300

[neon shell]

What is myr?

[pine thistle]

Malaysian Ringgits presumably

[neon shell]

Oh it’s currency lol. I thought it had something to do with the gpu itself lol

[pine thistle]

Don't blame you with the names and numbers some components have nowadays

[glad dove]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-explains-the-missing-rops-defective-silicon-in-0-5-percent-of-rtx-5090-and-5070-ti-gpus

[odd sand]

This would be the only difference that would matter. IE: 2 fan vs 3 fan cooler solution

[hazy frost]

Idk how much it matters atp besides the 3 fan ones maybe being a bit quieter

Or for the higher power draw ones like the 7900xt/xtx and 4090

4060 now is like 100w which is crazy

[dire viper]

Rushed paper launch

Double whammy

Capitalism or something

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/5BBTghKXjDE?si=SJE8decVIaL59pEz

million dollar cars actually being wrung out

[glossy ravine]

Lovely to see that a 2k GPU is entirely functional, working as intended and not broken whatsoever.

https://www.theverge.com/news/609207/nvidia-rtx-5090-power-connector-melting-burning-issues

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/users-report-bricked-or-unstable-rtx-5090-and-5080-cards-root-cause-to-be-determined

[violet python]

anyone ever done undervolting on MSI afterburner?
i have something to ask ><

[shadow oracle]

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-discovered-with-reduced-rop-count-88-instead-of-96

[shadow oracle]

Just drag the curve down in the curve editor

[violet python]

Well I was undervolt 2060
But I dunno where to stop for the core clock since I was using default the core clock is 1900mhz in benchmarks

Should I stop on 1800mhz?

[shadow oracle]

You shouldn't drop your clocks at all

The whole point is to run it at the same speed with lower power

Your target is voltage not clock speed

[violet python]

So I should run at 1900mhz?

Is it fine considering lifetime for the GPU?

[shadow oracle]

VOLTAGE is what matters. Undervolting won't affect your gpu at all.

Degradation only happens at high temperatures or high voltage or both

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-jensen-huang-safe-to-upgrade-gif-26481071

[violet python]

Thank you so much

[royal forge]

My dad doesnt know how to install printer drivers

Goes on google

Google serves him a malware site first rather than HP

He installed some russian program called GetMedia or smthn

He "deleted it" by deleting the shortcut

Good thing this was recent so i did a clean up

Still tho

God.. the Win 11 interface

Apps rather than programs

Opening on just pinned

Holy shit microsoft

[sly walrus]

get a new dad

alternatively, sue the shit out of google for giving him malware instead of being helpful

[royal forge]

The UI.. like

WHO looked at this and went "ye, thats good"

[sly elk]

sorry dear

[sly walrus]

is this better or worse than when your dad would download bonzibuddy on a whim

[sly elk]

give him the cursed laptop 😄

[royal forge]

Hell nah.

I've not even touched that in forever

Im debatin how to salvage it

[golden stream]

WELCOME TO W11 PAIN

Like why everything must be iOS-fication

It SUCCCCCCCC

[royal forge]

Enshittification

APPS

HOW ABOUT SUCK THESE APPS

Fukken..

[golden stream]

I miss w10 and w7 aaaaaaaaaaaa

[golden stream]

Yup, that's our average google, malwares for suggestions

[sly elk]

viking funeral

[royal forge]

Not for hw much i paid for it

[wild wyvern]

It is

[sly elk]

oh dang 😦 that thing was a real rip offf huh

[wraith agate]

I absolutely dislike W11

Honestly I want to go back to the XP era

[wild wyvern]

@hazy frost oh btw waffle would the r7 5700x bottleneck the 4060?

[golden stream]

Should be NO

Sauce: have 4060 but mobile, and 5700x/5700x3d should NOT bottlenect it

And 4060 is even somehow on par or even worse than 3060

[real edge]

personally I wouldn't spend any money on the 4060, its such a bad card

unless u can find it for dirt cheap like 150$ or something

[golden stream]

or laptop

Like 4060 is fine for budget-midrange laptop if budget is an issue

On PC? NAWN

Get a 3060 (ti) if you ever need more vram, at least it has 12g vram version

[wild wyvern]

nah the prices here are abit off

theres no way u will get it that cheap

[real edge]

ye I was just saying like, don't spend money on the 4060 unless u get it cheaply

its not a good card

[wild wyvern]

no choice

the cheapest gpu i can get here is an 4060

next to an 3050

[golden stream]

O ye SEA

No 3060?

[wild wyvern]

nope

[golden stream]

That's weird

Even used?

[wild wyvern]

i think got but some are way expensive

[golden stream]

Tfw stuff at my place are mostly 3060 and some 20xx but rarely 40xx used

[wild wyvern]

this is whack bruh

[golden stream]

.......don't use shopee

Esp for used

Check carousell

And esp at ur place

[wild wyvern]

errr

[potent arrow]

god sea is so whack

[wild wyvern]

id rather 4060 tbh

[wild wyvern]

still same price

even in carousell

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/colorful-nb-rtx-rtx-3060-ti-8gb-gpu-graphics-card-1354246780/?t-id=sH7SWWNvZt_1740302907782&t-referrer_browse_type=search_results&t-referrer_page_type=search&t-referrer_request_id=F8EHa7yr0UqPz8nj&t-referrer_search_query=rtx 3060&t-referrer_search_query_source=direct_search&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-tap_index=5

@golden stream

[golden stream]

We have
Overpriced stuff
Jank stuff like GPU with 3 SATA ports, somehow
More jank stuff
More obscure stuff

[wild wyvern]

is that gpu a good deal?

[golden stream]

Who know

But defo NOT the current gen GPU

[glossy ravine]

Some guys at Macrohard that need to fix what isn't broken.

Like they said W10 was the last version ever

RE GPU stuff: It may be expensive but. I'd stick to trusted mega stores. Amazon. (Make sure it's sold by them and not a third party!!), MicroCenter, Newegg, etc

Better to spend the extra to ensure you got a good product like a 4070 than try to get a too good to be true deal that's a reshelled 1060 that looks like 4070 and charges half the price before running off with the cash

[golden stream]

Re GPU stuff: sorry SEA has no Amazon, MC or NewEgg
Yes SEA is hella backwater if for hardware

[royal forge]

Newegg attempted to set up

Keyword

Attempted

[glossy ravine]

Again. Better to spend the extra to not get scammed.

[golden stream]

Fair ye

O lemme tell u an SEA horror story

1500USD
Laptop btw
Intel i5 gen 12
RTX 3050
Marked as high end

[odd sand]

If I bought one, I think I would stick to the Asus ones bc at least they added their own monitoring solution didn't they?

[hazy frost]

Like the asus one that just blew up

But yeah the cable should be better on them

Interesting to see what caused the capacitor issue on that $3000 gpu tho

[odd sand]

Were they using the cable Asus included though? Bc if they have their own load balancing/sensing solution, it probably requires a special cable

[hazy frost]

It wasn’t bc of the cable

It was a separate issue with an asus astral 5090

Presumed to be capacitor not wanting to live anymore

I don’t think asus is the only one doing the balancing thing tho

Not entirely sure

[odd sand]

They're the only ones I've heard of with their own solution that goes beyond the spec, but there may be others

Bc yeah... not having a monitoring/load balancing solution when you have like 5% or less headroom is madness

[hazy frost]

I imagine it’ll become pretty normal soon if they want anyone to buy the gpu

this is more widely covered than the 4090 was already

[odd sand]

cable specced for 600W max
semi-transient loads reaching as high as 630W

transient loads spiking to 900W

[hazy frost]

Should just be 2 cables still

The 5090 also just.. shouldn’t be drawing 600w stock?

Like it’s over 100w more than it needs to run stable at that performance

[lost python]

no clue how true this is

[hazy frost]

i mean looks in line with whats actually expected

around 4080 super/5080 potentially for 9070xt and 5070 for the 9070

[brave oxide]

that's missing info about FSR

but an average 20% probably same kind of FSR?

[hazy frost]

Might not be tbh

It’s including RT which could bump it up that high over last gen

The 9070 results are the more questionable ones tho

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/dxhydMqz524?si=fP12-bx0x-VYQpuS

[sharp star]

I think the entire 50 series is just cursed

Design flaws or no

[dire viper]

maybe if they had real engineers

jk they do

or do they

[glad dove]

their engineers probably got told no, since an intel engineer had a real good writeup of the issue and despite not being involved in nvidia's design at all, knew exactly why shit was melting and was baffled how it could have gotten approved

greed is a crazy drug i guess

[dire viper]

lol what

I didnt know about that

[glad dove]

sec let me find it

[dire viper]

[glad dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1io4a67/an_electrical_engineers_take_on_12vhpwr_and/

[hazy frost]

There’s a few things that by actual spec and general knowledge in that industry Nvidia shouldn’t be doing and im sure engineers know that but what can u do

They’re running vram stock above temps they should be safely technically with no degradation iirc

They’re designed for temperatures that should last for a reasonable amount of time and inside warranty but not what’s required for never degrading lol

30-50 series all have it idk about previous ones

[sly elk]

yes yes

that's been a thing with pc parts for a little while now

you mostly see it in laptops where the manufacturer is like

"yes 95c is within the safe operating range for the cpu"

or some radeon cards lol

[hazy frost]

lol

The vram thing is just particularly bad for longevity

I think AMD has it run marginally better but similar thing anyway

[sly elk]

so far the qa seems to be crap