technology-discussion

[dire viper]

Lucid, E Class and Camry are mid size

And 5 series

[hazy frost]

Lucid is big inside but not a giant ass car

[dire viper]

Up from those is full size

[hazy frost]

The S class might have slightly more room but it’s not a small car

[dire viper]

Like 3 series is small sedan

[dire viper]

It’s not very efficient with its foot print

Also the E class wagon looks worse for rear cabin space

[dire viper]

Which is odd

[hazy frost]

Nothing needs to be that big really lucid proves it atm

[sly elk]

to be fair

i think while the camry has comparable rear leg room, the shape of the greenhouse is different

giving it less headroom or whatever

probably narrower too, so less hip room

[hazy frost]

I can’t imagine ever driving something like an s class

[dire viper]

S class sucks

[sly elk]

i could totally use an s-class or a 7 😄

[dire viper]

Modern luxury barges kinda not so awesome

[sly elk]

but i'm not everyone

which is why the don't sell many of the dang things

[hazy frost]

Idk maybe it’s bc I don’t live in NA but it would be horrible to drive here

[dire viper]

I’m unimpressed Ngl

[sly elk]

i was going to say

in the US, an s-class is not particularly large

[dire viper]

The main deal is the car companies know their demographic

Most people rarely have rear passengers

[sly elk]

208" it's a hair longer than most full size SUVs

[hazy frost]

People who own SUVs and full size luxury cars here just annoy everyone bc they’re always in the way

[sly elk]

shorter than a suburban or whatever

[dire viper]

Even people in a 7 series or S class very rarely have other people in the car with them

[sly elk]

yea isn't that a whole thing

like the e-class is a driver's car and the s-class is a back seat passenger car?

[dire viper]

70% of rolls Royce buyers drive themselves

[dire viper]

Not really

[hazy frost]

Most of the time ur not taking 3 other 6’ plus people either so shorter people can fit in the back worst case

[dire viper]

E class is mid market

S class is top market

[sly elk]

also speaking as a big lazy american

[hazy frost]

My 6’3 friend got in the back of my car before that I can understand being terrible

[sly elk]

I feel like there's a noticeable difference in comfort between a car the size of an e-class and anything smaller

[dire viper]

I’m 6 foot and very heavy and I honestly don’t have issues with any mid size car except weird ones like Nissans

[sly elk]

i'm not saying it's uh

[dire viper]

Nissans have zero space

[sly elk]

it's definitely not unacceptable lmao

[dire viper]

It’s due to the market

Why make a smaller car super expensive

And have nice handling and ride quality

[sly elk]

but if you drive some decently large full size car it's like

ahhhh roomy

[hazy frost]

I make all cars look spacious but the old C class are small even to me in the back

[sly elk]

hahaha

yea the c-class size cars are like

every single time i've ever gone to lunch with a coworker

there's always 1 usable back seat

[hazy frost]

They just have no room in the back

[sly elk]

because the driver has their seat back al the way

[hazy frost]

Pretty decent luggage capacity and nice front seats tho

[sly elk]

honestly my jeep is about that size inside

[hazy frost]

If ur over 5’8 getting in my car is hell

[sly elk]

and it's kinda the same deal

i've had 5 people including myself in my jeep before LOL

[hazy frost]

Luckily my family is all like 5’10 or less so usually one person in the front and shorter ones in the back

[sly elk]

it was way less comfortable than 5 people in a larger car 100% for sure

and I don't really put my seat back much

[dire viper]

Nothing shows the state of luxury cars like how even the S class has more leg room in the front than it does in the rear

[sly elk]

for a 6' tall person lol

[sly elk]

the s-class has enough front leg room that you can carry your backpack on the floor in front of you? :3

[hazy frost]

The modern Mercedes luxury cars I’ve been in manage to feel tacky anyway somehow

[sly elk]

yea idk

[hazy frost]

Might be all the stupid lighting

[sly elk]

i like the lighting

[hazy frost]

It just feels like it cheapens it to me

[sly elk]

there's a lot i don't care for but that's true of pretty much all newer cars

and also the s-class always had a kinda ugly interior

like last gen was baaaad

[hazy frost]

It feels like they do a lot of gimmicky things instead of letting the materials and modest design choices speak for themselves

Should be way more understated

[sly elk]

this was fugly

functional, but ugly

[hazy frost]

But ig luxury is now hard to separate from extravagance and unnecessary flair with modern stuff

Rather than what it should be imo

[hazy frost]

Genuinely nicer than the new one imo lol

Not great still tho

[sly elk]

i think i like the colors better here?

[hazy frost]

That much white hurts

[sly elk]

but like

i agree with you on most counts here lol

that cluster and the weird box behind it are like wtf

[hazy frost]

Those displays need to go in luxury cars I’m so tired of them

[sly elk]

i like the way the center stack comes out of the center console

YEA IT LOOKS SO TACKY

[hazy frost]

They do not scream luxury unless ur a specific demographic which I suppose do tend to have money

[sly elk]

the doors look ok but I've seen better

i like the ambient lighting though

[hazy frost]

The seats are nice then it’s kind of.. eh

[sly elk]

but the old ones had it

[hazy frost]

It’s just too much bc it’s everywhere

[sly elk]

lol my cadillac has that kinda lighting but it's all white

no colors

[hazy frost]

My seat doesn’t even have the interior lights come on when I open the door sometimes lmao

It’s been pretty good recently actually idk what was causing it

I was fumbling around blind every night for a while

[sly elk]

i am amused that I can't find a single picture of what the lighting in the cadillac looks like hahaha

[sly elk]

maybe the dimmer switch?

it's funny but 3 of the last 3 rental cars i've rented, someone turned that feature off lmao

ford's implementation weirds me out because they don't even bother to label the 'auto' mode

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[sly elk]

like it's the silly kind that hs a 3 position switch on the ceiling but it's just labeled 1/0 instead of on/auto/off

[hazy frost]

Mine just was either on/off/off

[sly elk]

tbh seems a typical ford thing

[hazy frost]

Auto wasn’t autoing

Works now so I can’t complain

[sly elk]

i like the chrysler way where you have a dimmer knob and it clicks at the top and bottom lol

top click = always on, bottom click = always off, anything in between dims the dashboard lights

actually iirc there's 2 top clicks. one to run the dashboard lights at 100% and one to turn on the ceiling lights

[hazy frost]

Like and chrysler in the same sentence what a day to be alive

[sly elk]

I DO THIS A LOT

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-forrest-gump-not-a-smart-man-not-smart-gif-4495828

[hazy frost]

I bet u like the crossfire too

[sly elk]

hmmmm

[hazy frost]

I mean chrysler didn’t have awful interior design premises just made some awful cars lol

[sly elk]

the crossfire was a more interesting slk?

[hazy frost]

Unreal

[sly elk]

yea yea jeremy clarkson said it looked like a dog taking a shit

lots of cars look like that

especialyl teslas

[hazy frost]

The SLK is a more interesting crossfire

[sly elk]

srt6 roadster?

that said, would I buy one? naaah

[hazy frost]

They took the reliable parts (slk) and for unknown reasons added chrysler parts which are the bad thing

[sly elk]

what chrysler parts?

afaik the only chrysler is the body sheetmetal

[glad dove]

@kind rune hows build going

[hazy frost]

Gearbox

[sly elk]

though if I were to joke about the opposite, on the charger/300/challenger, the mercedes parts on the first gen were the most widely hated parts

[hazy frost]

The manual one isn’t a Mercedes one

The automatic is

[sly elk]

when they switched to the 2nd gen they removed all the stuff people complained about hahaha

[hazy frost]

The automatic afaik isn’t Amazing either but it doesn’t suck

[sly elk]

sucks about the manual gearbox

[hazy frost]

The srt6 is actually kind of cool

[sly elk]

man they put an awful manual setup in the current jeep

iirc it's an aisin with a weird clutch that likes to blow up

[hazy frost]

But it’s a different platform for the srt6 as well

Newer Mercedes

[sly elk]

huhh

[hazy frost]

Bc the SLK isn’t that great either lol

[glad dove]

why mercedes when audi is better

[sly elk]

say what?!

[hazy frost]

Well same platform actually newer car and the engine

[sly elk]

pardon me while I go perform some minor 10k mi maintenance on my audi

[glad dove]

audi is sexier and cooler tech

[glad dove]

but yeah this is valid

[hazy frost]

All the tech in new cars is kind of ass

It’s just gimmicks no one uses

[sly elk]

it's also cheaper to make

[hazy frost]

And has more that can go wrong

[sly elk]

ugly shiny black plastic everything

and touchscreens instead oif knobs

[hazy frost]

More electricals that can be faulty u will be forced to have it and be happy about it

[sly elk]

imho the touchscreen stuff is.. it's bullshit but ya know what's REALLY BAD?

capacitive touch steering wheel controls

what kinda monster had that idea

[hazy frost]

No tactile buttons is such an insanely stupid choice bc u should never be staring at ur centre console lmao

Crazy it became a thing somehow

[sly elk]

yea my cadillac has capacitive touch controls on the center console and it's just deliciously stupid

and inconsistent!

you can slide across the 'volume' bit to change the volume

but you cannot slide across the fan speed bit to change fan speed

ou have to tap the thing

[hazy frost]

I’m glad I still have the tactile buttons bc I drive an economy car in a nicer spec from 2014 lmao

[sly elk]

economy cars have the best hvac controls

[hazy frost]

I don’t have anything to go wrong bc I don’t have any features in my car

It got an engine seats and a steering wheel

[hazy frost]

Funny u say this bc my heating isn’t working this winter

Still haven’t fixed it

[sly elk]

i miss this about my old jeep

3 knobs

every cheap car has the 3 knobs

[hazy frost]

I say it every time I’m happy with missing all the stuff from a new car but I NEED a heated steering wheel

[sly elk]

also that picture beautifully illustrates something i hate about american cars

that you can always tell if the car was designed by an american

[sly walrus]

they make heated steering wheels?

[glad dove]

and cooled ones too

[sly elk]

isn't the location of the hazard light switch something?

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[sly elk]

like euro and japanese cars always have this giant prominent button at the top center of the dashboard

[hazy frost]

Pretty common now on new cars even cheaper ones

[sly elk]

you can even tell when a ford was designed in the eu or china or the US because of this

[sly walrus]

hhuh

[hazy frost]

Still expensive for a new car tho

[sly elk]

american cars always puit the hazard light button in some bullshit place

[sly walrus]

i need to have a tlk with my dealership then

[sly elk]

especially old ones

where they like hide it on the steering column

[hazy frost]

lol mine isn’t

[sly elk]

awww

[hazy frost]

Ignore the wheel bearings I keep in the floor for safe keeping

[sly elk]

man that is kinda american lol

[hazy frost]

It’s questionable

French cars are also very obvious bc they put stuff in stupid places tho

[sly elk]

but like

audi. middle of the ac vents

honda, same

[glad dove]

hyundai

[hazy frost]

Yeah usually they’d be here

[sly elk]

american designed chevy

[hazy frost]

My car is Spanish (German fake Spanish)

[sly elk]

probably chinese designed chevy

i have no idea where the hazard lights button on the american one is lol

[glad dove]

lol

[sly elk]

the tahoe is amusing look

it's actually on the passenger side of the dash lol

[hazy frost]

For when the driver is knocked out in an accident the passenger can still get to it

It’s smart really

[glad dove]

lol

[hazy frost]

I’m not sure why mine is where it is but ig it’s still somewhat logical

The new ones have it in the lower centre of the dash below the AC controls

I was 3 years too soon for that

I learned to drive in a French car and then I got in literally everything else after that and felt lost

[sly elk]

this is also why hand brakes were nice

although if you carry a random person and they go nuts and decide to yank your hand brake

[hazy frost]

I forgot some cars don’t have a traditional handbrake

[sly elk]

the vast majority of cars sold in the US don't have a handbrake

[hazy frost]

I don’t trust anything that I can’t pull and feel click myself

I would be nervous

[glad dove]

rip handbrakes

[hazy frost]

I park on hills too much for that

[glad dove]

its all weird foot pedal shit now

[sly elk]

i mean most have hill hold assist

[hazy frost]

I mean that’s cool ig but

[sly elk]

even that is obsolete

pretty much every car I've touched made in the last decade just has a button

[glad dove]

what is it now?

[hazy frost]

I don’t trust the buttons to do what I tell them to

I want to feel my handbrake move

[glad dove]

ah fuck lol

[sly elk]

it's like a window switch

you pull up to engage the brake

push it to turn it off

[hazy frost]

God I hate it there’s nothing wrong with handbrakes even

They look fine aesthetically lol

[sly elk]

and on most, if you hold up the switch it'll work like an emergency brake

also random trivia

[hazy frost]

No handbrake turn for Americans

[sly elk]

if you drive a tesla with the stalk and hold the park button on the stalk

[hazy frost]

I assume it doesn’t let u do that anyway

[sly elk]

it'll slam the brakes really hard

[hazy frost]

Lmao

Never mind I guess they do just let u do stupid stuff

[glad dove]

this is how i got through winters driving a mustang gt with snowtires

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gea-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-driving-bad-driving-gif-20771507

[sly elk]

this makes me laugh tbh

most people in the US are like

OMG RWD YOU CANT DRIVE THATR IN THE SNOW

YOU NEED 4WD OR AWD

-proceeds to run off the road with awd because they didn't buy winter tires-

[glad dove]

torque, snowtires, and handbrake

heh

[hazy frost]

Me and my 4 different brands of Chinese $5 tires are getting through all the seasons

I keep saying I need to wait to buy new wheels for tyres but I think I might need to get new ones anyway lol

I’ll just have to buy a second lot later

It hasn’t rly snowed and the ice gets grit on it pretty quickly round here anyway

[glad dove]

we are in the middle of a snowstorm right now

they already cancelled schools tomorrow

[hazy frost]

Honestly I’d rather drive a rwd car if it snowed than mine being fwd

[glad dove]

8+" overnight

[hazy frost]

Can actually steer even if I lost traction then

[sly elk]

i get goodyears because i get a 10-15% discount through work and they come to my house and install them in the driveway

[hazy frost]

That’s good

I get whatever doesn’t cost me an arm and a leg without being actually dangerous

[glad dove]

nice tires

[sly elk]

it's kinda boring though haha, I don't get to run fun tires with white ltter sidewalls or whatever

my jeep coulda looked cooler with like mickey thompson baja boss or whatever. Oh well. xd these were cheaper and actually awesome in wet weather

[hazy frost]

Putting PS4s on my 150hp lukewarm hatch

[sly elk]

which the ko2s my jeep came with were TERRIBLE at

and got worse as the years went on

drifting is fun when you meant to do it

not when you accelerate out of the jack in the box drivethrough and go sideways in the middle of the street lmao

[hazy frost]

I’ve got a set on the rear and different one on the front rn

[sly elk]

pirelli scorpio something something italian sexy sounding

[hazy frost]

The front ones are alright they’re just cheap pace ones

[sly elk]

zero asimmetrico

rosso

[glad dove]

when i had my audi, it came with pirellis and those things were so soft that i had to buy a new set almost every year

it was terrible

[sly elk]

hehe

my bad tire experience seems to be anything branded michellin/bfg likes to dry rot after about 4 years

[hazy frost]

I might get Bridgestones or Goodyear ones next time bc they seem to be cheap often idk why

[sly elk]

but i'm kinda ok with tires needing replacement after 5 years

[hazy frost]

It’s not like I burn through them my car has 3lb of torque and weighs 1000kg

[sly elk]

1 year is bs unless you're doing like 30k miles on a z rated tire

[hazy frost]

Yeah

I don’t do enough miles or drive a car where I need it

[glad dove]

thats about right

[sly elk]

my luck with chinese tires

[hazy frost]

So long as I rotate them and don’t do anything stupid they’ll last forever

[sly elk]

so i bought a year old car once and it had 3 michellins and 1 nexen tire

[hazy frost]

lol

[sly elk]

it had like 12k miles on the michellins and the nexen was brand new

so I drove it like that until the nexen was damn near bald

... at like 30k miles?

[hazy frost]

Nexens aren’t THAT bad they’re relatively good for what they cost

[sly elk]

the michellins still had life in them lmao

[hazy frost]

They’re not the best but they’re not gonna put u in a ditch either

[sly elk]

idk i wasn't impressed

fair

it didn't put me in a ditch

[hazy frost]

They’re cheap as hell so u get what u pay for

[sly elk]

TFL bought a cheap jeep wrangler that came with them (yes, stellantis really cutting costs lmao) and they haaated them

[hazy frost]

Those Michelins were probably 3x the price lmao

[sly elk]

which is also like wtf

[hazy frost]

I think some luxury cars in Asia get sold with the brands we consider cheap crap here tho

Idk about nexen

But one of the others

[sly elk]

ling long!

[hazy frost]

Supposedly

Can’t rly justify £100 a tyre on cheap cars either tho

[sly elk]

aks, goodride, triangle, chaoyang

we do have a domestic equivalent

walmart branded goodyears

[hazy frost]

The Michelin all weather tyres are pretty good I’ve heard but like

[sly elk]

i mean i don't know that they're that bad but

[hazy frost]

$150 a tyre

Minimum

[sly elk]

they perform well, they just don't age well

[hazy frost]

Idk the all season ones do

I think I might get pilot sports next time anyway they’re like £90 a tyre recently

[glossy ravine]

How powerful is a ps5 compared to a gpu

[hazy frost]

I mean the ps5 gpu specifically isn’t that powerful but it uses upscaling for higher res in new titles to make it work

[glossy ravine]

I ask because I'm considering picking up Dead Space (2023) on steam bc it's 15 dollars and I was wondering how good I could make it look with my Radeon 6750 XT

[hazy frost]

It’s close to the rx6700 or 5700xt spec wise but performs like a 6700xt usually without upscaling I think

[glossy ravine]

So marginally better than the 5.

[hazy frost]

It’ll probably be about the same when u play it

If ur playing at 1080p the 6750xt will run it well

1440p might not be all that great with it

[kind rune]

Update... still building...

Slow and steady wins the race

[glad dove]

nice

[kind rune]

How do I use this anti sag thing with bottom fans

[dull garnet]

you don't

[kind rune]

Wait it fits near the side fans

[hazy frost]

I’d just remove one fan near the end of the gpu bc u don’t rly need it and put it there

[kind rune]

Okay... just one or two more things and I'm gonna try to turn it on

[hazy frost]

Pretty sure that’s meant to go on the other side

Its not rly doing its job there

It’s already ‘supported’ on that side and the back by the case and motherboard it’s the corner that hangs over near the side panel that has nothing holding it up

If u put it there it just adds more support where it already had it and doesn’t stop it sagging

[kind rune]

Is it even sagging I can't tell

[hazy frost]

U sent an angle where u can’t rly tell

[dull garnet]

i've never used an anti sag bracket in my life

fake news

[hazy frost]

Take it from further away and level with the gpu not pointing up or down at it

[hazy frost]

I have to bc I have a fat gpu

[hazy frost]

And it looked like it was going to snap my motherboard

[dull garnet]

😳

[hazy frost]

Yes

[kind rune]

Well fuck

[hazy frost]

Heavy

[kind rune]

I'm gonna order one of those anti sag brackets that connect from a slot thing

[hazy frost]

It was just rly long so it didn’t help lol

[kind rune]

[hazy frost]

They’re not rly that good

The one that u have will do a much better job of it

If it’s on the correct side

The brackets that go on the slot don’t have much strength to hold up the end furthest away from where its supported already which is kind of dumb

I had one come with my gpu and don’t use it

[kind rune]

Well I'm not taking fans off for this version when nobody else with these cards does so il either use that one or just keep going

I forgot to use the bracket from my last gpu

[hazy frost]

I mean sure if u value aesthetics more than ur pcb interface being intact

It’s a giant heavy card using nothing isn’t a good idea

[glad dove]

i dont use any bracket on my gpu

[hazy frost]

Your gpu is much smaller and lighter than that is

[glad dove]

true

[dull garnet]

i think my saggiest card was my strix 970

and that's nothing compared to modern cards

[hazy frost]

U should manage to be fine without one given the size and especially thickness of the new ones

Much less heavy

And Not as long so less leverage there

Even my gpu is bigger than the new FE models lol

[kind rune]

I'm just gonna use one of the other brackets and hope

[hazy frost]

I saw someone trying to sell one of the watercooled rog 4090s for £5500 on eBay earlier

Good times

There’s a 5080 for preorder for below retail here

Interesting

Several actually

Thank you PNY for making the best GPUs that no one cares about so they don’t cost me a kidney

[kind rune]

Okay the fan doesn't spin

Fans

So the fan controller isn't connected properly

Fixed \o/

[dull garnet]

lets hope you didn't have bitlocker enabled

[kind rune]

I don't know what that is I actually just wanna fresh install windows

[kind rune]

wtf i cant change my time and its wrong

yea i need to just clean install

[kind rune]

enhanced?

[golden stream]

Their marketing ain’t strong, peep kinda only know a few brands and the rest are overlooked, hence lower price
There’re Colorful cards which are also relatively affordable and pretty, some even has SFF tho

[muted spoke]

Upgrading my am4 rig from a 3700x to a 5700x3d. So far so good.

Nearly gave myself a heart attack removing the old cooler. Took the CPU with it!

[golden stream]

AM4 glory CPU pull

same here

[paper tusk]

been there, done that

bent pins too. they responded to gentle persuasion and it was fixed (for spare system)

[odd sand]

I did that with my old AMD Thunderbird CPU when I first got it and absolutely didn't have the money to buy a 2nd one

asspuckered and saved the day with tweezers to straighten them

[kind rune]

gpu isnt going above 60 c and cpu isnt either

im on pbo 80 level 3 right now im gonna try level 1

[glossy ravine]

How often should I check for driver updates

[golden stream]

Weekly/bimonthly/monthly

But depend on what

I usually update the one version older if for GPU lol

[odd sand]

The normal adage is if it ain't broke don't fix it. So unless a driver specifically calls out performance or bug fixes for a game you own/are playing right now, don't worry about updating it regularly. Maybe every 6-12 months is fine honestly, unless it's a brand new released card where they will probably improve them a lot.

(That's for Nvidia at least) For AMD, their early drivers tend to be shit, so they have pretty consistent perf gains for the first 12-18 months after release of a card

[brave oxide]

I think if the tariffs stay in the US PNY might get some pretty big pricing lead, since it's an american brand I think it shouldn't get hit with tariffs

I personally stayed away fron PNY due to reading too many reports on coil whine

[odd sand]

AFAIK it's 100% about where the goods are produced, not who owns the company or where it's located.

CNBC had one of their online stories and it discussed with some guy that runs a shoe business in the US and even the stuff already on the boat was going to face tariffs, even if it left China before they were instituted.

[brave oxide]

damn

rip 2025 GPU buyers

another round of paper launch, tariffs and scalpers

[odd sand]

I'm still on 1080p, so I can get another couple years out of the 3080 np

[brave oxide]

i went from 1070 to 4070 ti because I didn't want to wait for 50 series

and so glad I didn't

[odd sand]

I'd say I could buy a GPU on my next trip to Japan, but they're expensive af over there so I wouldn't save any money, even with the tariffs

[paper tusk]

and the 9070 price placeholder in canada isn't helping confidence https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-9070-series-briefly-listed-by-canadian-retailer-rx-9070-xt-at-697-usd-rx-9070-at-586-usd

[brave oxide]

was a $560 refurbished 4070 ti sold directly by zotac

[brave oxide]

I assume the new AMD naming is meant to mirror Nvidia? so 9070 = 5070

[odd sand]

Exhibit A: (~$2000USD)

[brave oxide]

that's crazy

[paper tusk]

I'm starting to lean towards waiting it out because not spending $700 (USD) or $550 for a trash 5070 non ti 😐

[brave oxide]

i saw this earlier https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/06/tech/tokyo-nvidia-gaming-chips-buy-frenzy-chaos-intl-hnk/index.html

Chinese buyers

flying to Japan just to get a GPU

[odd sand]

That's what happens when you "launch a product" and you're full of shit and only have like 1000 cards for the entire planet.

[paper tusk]

temptation increasing

[odd sand]

You can get used ones on ebay for like 350-400

Err maybe not the ti

[paper tusk]

I need to compare with my 3060 ti first to make sure it wouln't be pissing away money. yeah that too

[odd sand]

Is it 10gb or 12?

[paper tusk]

12gb

[odd sand]

Well there's that at least. I'd also see how that compares to the 5070, although the non-ti has a lot less memory bandwidth than the 3080ti, but they do claim GDDR7 is more efficient

And you'd then get the benefits of DLSS4, which the non-framegen stuff does seem to be an improvement

[paper tusk]

a quick look at GN says 3080ti is dead even with 4070 super give or take some fps at 4k (where the super is memory bandwith restrained)

[kind rune]

is it normal for my gpu fans to not spin when idle

[wise jay]

alot dont spin if its under a certain percentage load or temperature

unless you use a third party program to change the default curve

[paper tusk]

rtx 3xxx and newer usually idle (or desktop tasks like watching video) with fans off (if there's a silent mode or similar default in video bios)

[kind rune]

my 3080 didnt do that

[paper tusk]

might be something with reference designs (or my asus)

[brave oxide]

my 1070 did it

so it's been around at least since then

[real edge]

sometimes when the game is not demanding at all or very low demand

my gpus fans wont spin at all

[brave oxide]

there are some tools you can use to check your fan curve

it shows what degree the card needs to hit before the fans go above 0 RPM

[real edge]

like if I play dead by daylight, the gpus fans wont spin

apparently thats normal to preserve the fans as the gpu is cool enough without them spinning

[brave oxide]

it's possible your old 3080 just ran hot enough to never turn off the fans

[real edge]

^

[wise jay]

ya my 2070 was shockingly cool. I knew when it sped up. Noticeable whine

[kind rune]

I will say I always had a manual fan curve in msi afterburner so maybe I just never saw it happen

[lost python]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1io6e39/update_heres_another_one/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

another case of third party cables

or well, lianli extensions on his evga psu, that accordign to him worked fine for 4 years

[real edge]

dude apparently had extensions on extensions

which you should never do

[dull garnet]

i don't trust extensions to begin with

[brave oxide]

dumbassery aside, i still don't get why these companies don't follow a standard

[real edge]

id rather put 6 8pin cables

rather than a single one that can fry

[dull garnet]

i didn't realise he was using that jank ass setup with a 5090 💀 wtf man

[glad dove]

just need 4x for 5090, which is how i did it

[lost python]

i wish all psu manufacturers would add long cables, so we wouldnt need extensions

[paper tusk]

or 3x to disable overclocking (450w)

[lost python]

bequiet is terrible about this. great stuff but the pcie cables are always too short. sometimes the 24pin mobo too

[glad dove]

yep

[hazy frost]

It’s funny people stay away given they make the OEM Nvidia stuff and workstation cards but no one knows about it

People think it’s some cheap brand instead

I’m glad anyway bc it means that some of the best GPUs are actually still cheap

They used to be partnered with Nvidia for founders edition cards as well though I’m not sure they do now

If they can make good quadro cards they can definitely make good geforce ones

[brave oxide]

fair enough, since I'm not from the US but buying from the US returning things can be a massive (and expensive) headache, so I prefer to not take chances

[hazy frost]

There’s less of a chance with PNY than most other brands tbh

Every modern gpu has a decent chance of coil whine

There’s not very many that have it particularly bad specifically

Electronics will always be electronicing regardless of how premium it is

[glad dove]

@kind rune where did you leave off on your build?

[lost python]

nvidia mods deleted this. smh

[paper tusk]

now we're cooking

[sharp star]

Forever relevant

[brave oxide]

you almost owe me a new keyboard

i was drinking something

was

[lost python]

[glad dove]

@hazy frost this was a pretty interesting read https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1io4a67/an_electrical_engineers_take_on_12vhpwr_and/

[kind rune]

Finish

[glad dove]

Woo

[wide hill]

bruh

[lost python]

[sharp star]

"Extension cords are fire hazards" still applies to PCs

[wide hill]

this isn't even extension coords looking to it

they just connected random cables together to somehow manage to fit

[glad dove]

https://wccftech.com/another-user-sees-melting-16-pin-connector-with-nvidia-rtx-5080/

rip

[sharp star]

nothing short of masterful engineering

[real edge]

this makes me not want to buy a new gpu ngl

hopefully by the time the 4080super ages, this shit is fixed

[royal forge]

Its k, Nhad. Im sure the 6080 will melt wires too

[real edge]

and the 6090 will require 1000watts over 2 16-pin connectors

[hazy frost]

I mean this guy knew it wasn’t connected properly and still just kept using it tho no?

That’s kind of on them

The 5080 shouldn’t be doing that even if the cable standard does suck

The cases of stuff happening is like 70% people being dumb and 30% cable being terrible but it does make the issue seem worse than it is

[sharp star]

I think it's pointing to a design flaw with the cards lmao

[hazy frost]

It’s a design flaw yes but it’s not actually as bad as this many headlines

It’s like the 4090 yeah the original cable was terrible but the amount of people who just didn’t plug it in properly was also pretty high

The actual failure rate due to hardware was a lot lower than the articles would point to with that

[dire viper]

Simply use a clock spring connector I’m sure they’re rated for 600W

[sharp star]

I saw the one where the guy plugged a Corsair cable into an EVGA power supply

Now that one is user error

[dire viper]

Spinny connector yippee!

[hazy frost]

There’s too many ways u can do things wrong with the psu and connectors and some arguably are partly bc the 12vhpwr cable sucks but still

I don’t understand people buying such expensive products to not read manuals and make 100% sure they’ve done it right

People need to learn to be more careful and research so they don’t connect 30 extensions together and make it explode and the 12vhpwr cable also needs significant design changes and should rly not just be one cable on the xx90 but that’s never gonna happen

[kind rune]

cyberpunk with path tracing at 200 fps is crazy to see

[hazy frost]

190 fake frames doing work

[dire viper]

Yes

[lost python]

nah to be fair its more like 170-180

[hazy frost]

My apologies I did the math wrong

[dire viper]

Are the real frames in the room with us?

[inland mauve]

can a robot do traditional rendering

[lost python]

https://tenor.com/view/i-robot-can-you-gif-9065419652448396713

[hazy frost]

Can’t wait until everyone’s game looks different bc it’s all arbitrarily generated so they don’t need hardware to render real frames

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-crying-will-smith-sad-gif-14770497

[lost python]

that just sounds like the... 4th? attempt at cloud rendering

[hazy frost]

Perhaps

Whatever lets them sell it to people who believe in the AI bubble that is definitely not going to burst ever

[dire viper]

Yes

[hazy frost]

I’ll buy a gpu in 2035 when we’re back to real hardware it’s ok

[dire viper]

publicly traded corporation doing what they all do, screwing over the consumer 😔

There is no Easter bunny, there is no real engineers at NVIDIA

[hazy frost]

lol

It’s funny that people are like we don’t need more vram or better hardware bc frame gen is the future meanwhile new features eat up any vram u had left

Good times

[hazy frost]

That has nothing to do with what I just said

There is no gotcha here

The 7600xt is still pointless because it will never ever manage to use all of it, the xx70 or 80 having no vram increase is stupid when they’re selling frame gen as the reason it’s better than last years when it’ll struggle to use it

[glad dove]

[kind rune]

You people just hate seeing someone enjoy something huh

[dire viper]

No

Just hate to see a company do as all companies do and sell the same SKU but at a higher price

And then use buzzwords and peoples lack of understanding about products to try to hide it

This reeks of just caring about number going up rather than genuine interest in furthering hardware

Why make better hardware when you can lie and still make more money

[dire viper]

Lmfao

[hazy frost]

This goes for a lot of industries lmao

It’s sad

[dire viper]

It does but industry leaders generally like to actually evolve and improve

[hazy frost]

Occasionally

[dire viper]

NVIDIA is the only industry leader basically

For GPU’s

which is why the whole anti trust investigation is ongoing

[hazy frost]

AMD is catching up at a rate that’s promising especially when Nvidia are doing whatever tf 50 series is lol

Makes it a lot easier to close the gap when ur competitor is doing literally nothing

Their non consumer hardware is getting better at a faster rate tho

[dire viper]

Yuh

I will be a genuine AMD shill if the upcoming cards are super good

[hazy frost]

A few companies bought a lot of the newer ones for AI

[hazy frost]

9070xt looks like it could be the best gpu in years if it’s just not marked up by ridiculous amounts

[dire viper]

Yea

[hazy frost]

And whatever the other mystery gpu they have maybe releasing

[dire viper]

If AMD doesn’t try to price match NVIDIA…

[hazy frost]

People were upset at the idea of the 9070xt releasing at $800-900 as well which is still crazy bc the 5080 is even more expensive

Having a launch price of <$800 would make it good even if not as amazing as it could be

I was an AMD shill last gen bc they were better but both still were mediocre

[dire viper]

Yea

If they bring a 500 dollar GPU to the table that’s got good VRAM and performance it’s gonna be a killing field

[hazy frost]

Worst case 9070 should be good and $500 even if the xt is $650+

[lost python]

man, everytime i press the capslock button, windows makes the usb disconnect sound

its so annoying

same with the numpad button

[wraith agate]

Wtf

That's not supposed to happen

[lost python]

its only since the fucking big win11 update

[wraith agate]

Can you not edit the sound it plays?

[lost python]

dunno whats the point of that. i still want the sound for other devices.
but this shit is even causing a microstutter during gaming

both keychrons i have here are doing this but i dont have any other keyboard to try

[potent arrow]

what the fuck lol

[wraith agate]

Are you sure it's windows and not per say your keyboard having a seizure?

[lost python]

two keyboards at the same time?

[wraith agate]

Okay fair

[hazy frost]

Win11 doing totally normal stuff again

[wraith agate]

Tho are they the same brand and type of keyboard?

[lost python]

like i said, yeah

[wraith agate]

Hmm...

Did you buy both at the same time?

[hazy frost]

It’s not gonna be a hardware issue with what it’s doing

Even if it’s related to the keyboard it’ll be software based problems

[wraith agate]

I dunno, could be a faulty batch

[lost python]

not the same time, no.
it seems like its the usb switch i use. guess something during the update fucked its driver or something. i have it plugged directly into a USB-C port and it seems to have stopped.
guess i will see once i have a work notebook again

[wraith agate]

Huh...

[potent arrow]

literally was gonna ask if it's a direct connection

[lost python]

well now it isnt exactly direct either, since its plugged into a usb-c extension that is connected to my gpu, which i usually use for my huion

[potent arrow]

So I've had that same issue, it's like the actual usb controller on the hubs getting overwhelmed with high throuput devices like keyboard combined with flash drives and audio interface etc

and it only happens with that device

on windows 11

[lost python]

oh i only got keyboard and mouse on there

[potent arrow]

I had to throw away my two switches lol

like the KVM thing

[lost python]

oof

[potent arrow]

super light with high polling was enough to do it

[sly elk]

i think the price was leaked as 600-ish

[hazy frost]

Yeah it was supposed to be originally then people freaked out at rumours of it being a lot more

Which AMD marketing guy said no to and then people didn’t believe it anyway

I think it’ll probably be like 650 up to 750 for some models

[sly elk]

https://www.pcguide.com/news/latest-rx-9070-series-price-leak-isnt-as-aggressive-as-we-had-hoped/

PowerColor Reaper RX 9070 XT: $999 CAD / $697 USD (converted)
PowerColor Reaper RX 9070: $839 CAD / $586 USD (converted)
XFX QuickSilver RX 9070 XT Magnetic Air: $1,129 CAD / $748 USD (converted)
XFX QuickSilver RX 9070 OC: $949 CAD / $662 USD (converted)

[hazy frost]

9070xt at the leaked prices people will complain but it should destroy the 50 series in price to performance

[sly elk]

yea 600-700 is dang good

[hazy frost]

It was faster than the 4080super in leaked benchmarks

For $700

It’s actually probably on par with the 5080 based on how much it beat the 4080 by

But the 5080 should be $980? At MSRP

Still almost 300 more lol

And AMDs last gen will drop in price unlike Nvidia who just stop selling theirs

[glad dove]

lol aibs are 1200-1500$

[hazy frost]

Yeah it won’t be close to 980 for a while lmao

[odd sand]

At the same time, I honestly feel like Nvidia wants to cede the consumer market at this point in time. They're happy spending their entire wafer allocation on $32k AI cards and probably feel they can simply use a new gen to "win back consumers" in the future if that ever dries up

Consumers will simply get binned AI cards

[hazy frost]

The problem is they’re already losing consumers last gen when they actually released half decent GPUs

It’s going to get a lot more difficult to redeem themselves if they let AMD catch up completely (which they will at this rate)

[odd sand]

Bc they were too expensive and they keep gimping the vram and memory bandwidth

AMD is already caught up in raster, just not in fake frame bullshit

[hazy frost]

FSR 4 looks pretty close all things considered

Plus ur getting a significantly higher amount in raster for any upscaling to work with

In the last couple years AMD went from being almost unusable for RT upscaling and cuda biased tasks to actually being pretty decent in all of them

Give it another couple years if Nvidia keeps pulling the same bs like this and it’ll be a pretty clear win for AMD

[odd sand]

I assume the R&D work necessary for something like that is logarithmic, and we're reaching the point of the curve where they look okay enough at a fraction of the cost

[hazy frost]

AMD also went from data centre being 0% of profits to like 30% in 4 years

Some companies who had Nvidia products were buying them for their data centres when they came out

They might not be quite as good but when they’re like 1/8th of the price it’s hard to argue

[odd sand]

At the same time, nameshare is still a huge draw. Even if it becomes a "clear win for AMD" you're still going to be seeing the majority go to Intel and Nvidia.

9800X3D kicks the snot out of anything Intel offers atm and they still only have 27% of the desktop market atm

[hazy frost]

That’s true for now

It’s only been a couple years so far of rly competitive products and the amount has shifted pretty dramatically considering

[odd sand]

So it took Intel falling on their face for like 7-8 years in a row for them to go from like 10-15% to 27%

[hazy frost]

Realistically it’s the last 4 years max

That things actually made a difference

x3d CPUs and Intels 13/14th gen have made a big difference in public opinion

When it was earlier am4 and Intel the difference was basically just which one u preferred or was on sale

[odd sand]

Summer of 2019 is when the AMD hype train took off. You already had a lot of people in the gamer space telling you you were an idiot for buying Intel at that point even, and that was before vcache

[hazy frost]

The 5600 wasn’t objectively better than a 12400f in any metric

The 7800x3d is better in every metric compared to new Intel CPUs for gamers

[hazy frost]

It was a minority that actually knew and no one listened bc the difference wasn’t quite night and day

[odd sand]

I was in the market for a 3900X, but couldn't find them in stock for like 3 months, so I bought a 9900K which was like 3% higher in single core and like 15% worse in multi-core. And I got it for $100 less than the 3900X

[hazy frost]

Early am4 was good but it wasn’t competitive

Am5 is price competitive better in performance and more efficient

People are starting to realise

Hard to ignore when ur getting beaten in workstation gaming and enterprise at the same time

[odd sand]

Unless Intel really turns it around with 16th gen (which frankly, I feel like it will be around 5 years at this point for that to really happen) I'll get a 10800X3D or whatever it will be called and then either a 60 series card or whatever AMD GPU around that time.

13900K I'll keep for homelab

[hazy frost]

I’ll probably buy whatever x3d when we get a ryzen 9 with two CCDs of extra cache lol

I really hoped the 9900x3d would but was a bit disappointed

I got a 7700x and it’s fine I mean it matches better Intel CPUs for what I’d use it for still

I think AMD showing they’d keep releasing stuff even after end of ‘new’ CPUs for am4 also made an impact

Knowing you’ll potentially get like 5 years of upgrades rather than 2 is big

[sly elk]

not in here though XD

[hazy frost]

Last time I had an Intel cpu was 9th gen as well lol

And my laptop I had longer which was 6th

Was good besides the fact they got so hot my laptop died eventually

[odd sand]

I think in here even

I would have gone with a 7800X3D but i wanted extra cores for potential homelab stuff, so I went with the 13900K

[hazy frost]

Fair

I got a 7700x bc no 7800x3d yet and I wanted 8 cores for using the DAW over the 7600x

Will probably get a used 9800x3d after next release

I don’t need the extra cores anymore really

[odd sand]

Honestly probably could have had the 5800X3D even, as there isn't a HUGE difference between that and 7800X3D or even 9800 for that matter

[hazy frost]

Could just use my 7700x for hosting servers for friends instead

[hazy frost]

Depends what game ur playing anyway

In some it’s huge in others it’s like nothing

And if u have a top of the line gpu u could probably use a 5600x at 4K and make it work

I’d like a better cpu for phantom liberty areas in cyberpunk they’re perhaps not too well optimised

I’m likely cpu limited a lot of the time in xiv too

[odd sand]

Ehh... I dunno about that. There is still a lot of heavy lifting games do on the CPU and only 1-2 cores at that

[hazy frost]

Usuallt for newer triple A games it’s a gpu problem at 4K

Needs a 4090/5090 to start needing actually high end CPUs

Or u play sim games god forbid u must suffer and buy a 15800x3d to make it run properly

[odd sand]

I guess I'm from the camp that would never buy into 4K if it meant I was only getting 30-60fps.

Yeah sim games are the only ones that make use of more threads, but I think most of those also have very diminishing returns over like 8

[hazy frost]

4K is semi achievable now for most not terrible games

[odd sand]

In Satisfactory etc. anything beyond the first 2 threads sits at maybe 15% load

[hazy frost]

It’s still a technology where u have to upgrade way too frequently to be easily accessible tho

Ur spending 1k+ on a gpu almost every year to keep up at 60+ fps lol

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s not even the amount it’s just the performance of the ones u do get to use

It’s annoying

I’m glad I don’t rly play any rn lol

[odd sand]

And there, memory speed almost comes into play more

[hazy frost]

Ddr5 memory stability is rough

Intels IMC is better but still kind of sucks lol

I feel ddr6 is coming too soon for 5 to be perfected anyway

[odd sand]

Question is: Will 6 be more stable at release, or are we simply back at the bottom of the mountain clawing our way back up then?

[hazy frost]

Hopefully the former probably the latter

Atl if it released as early as it can for consumers

We’ll just have to wait and see ig

I’m quite happy with am5 lasting me the next 6 years probably lol

[dreamy urchin]

hi is getting around 100fps (exploring/expansions main cities) normal for 1440p with my 4060ti/i5 14600fk/32gbddr5? I upgraded my pc from a i7 9700k/16gbddr4 and I can't notice an upgrade apart from maybe the stability

[odd sand]

Assume you mean for FF14. I haven't played in awhile, but 1440p is certainly going to lean into the GPU more than 1080p

Crashing regularly doesn't sound normal though. I never really had issues with that in 14.

40 series is rather gimped on VRAM and memory bandwidth. Were you using that card with the 9700K as well>

[dreamy urchin]

Yep same card but its true that I ocd the i7

I could even swear that it was doing better in terms of fps iirc, might just be misremembering tho

[odd sand]

Are you sure the settings are completely the same? Also, did you buy the system or build it yourself? Might check the BIOS to make sure the memory is set properly

Intel platform means it will be called XMP

Many system builders will not turn XMP on by default because it's considered "overclocking" even if the ram is rated to be stable at the XMP defined settings.

@dreamy urchin

Which leaves it at the default which is like 4800 or even lower.

If you built it yourself, could also confirm it's running in dual channel mode. For most boards it's the 2nd and 4th slots away from the CPU when running 2 DIMMs

[dreamy urchin]

I build it myself with some advices (except the 4060ti which I kinda regret), xmp was enabled before and now too

[dreamy urchin]

I think this is also correct let me quick check

[odd sand]

Standard speeds for Intel platform is DDR5-6000 cas36, but you can find them as low as cas28

[dreamy urchin]

I have it in profile1 now havent tried expo

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/G71uIVvnzvw?si=vvoCkT8icqvDJu3n NEW REVELATIONS VIDEO

[odd sand]

kk then yeah, 100fps on a 4060 at 1440p sounds about right to me. assuming you had the exact same settings in FF14. If you wiped the drive and reinstalled 14 after buying the new system, then there could be some settings that changed. And a few of them like shadows and lighting can have a big affect on performance.

[dreamy urchin]

okay tyyysm for the help that makes me a bit more relieved. IIl probably just sell the 4060 when the new 50 series comes out then

[odd sand]

Honestly the 50 series aren't looking great from a price/perf POV, but I suppose if you were planning to lean into the framegen for extra FPS then it would be worth waiting for.

Just understand there will be a bigger and bigger penalty the more synthetic frames it generates vs real ones.

It adds latency and reduces visual quality

I wouldn't buy the normal 5070, I would get the ti so at least it has 16gb vram. 12gb for 1440p isnt enough these days

Otherwise, if you have more money, the AMD 7900XTX is looking like a great value atm. Otherwise the XT 9070 coming out soon looks to be competitive with the 5080 in raster perf

The former being around $900-1000 USD atm, and the latter around $700-800

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/tomwarren.co.uk/post/3li3ik5rrn22u

Tom Warren (@tomwarren.co.uk)

AMD has set a date for its next-gen RX 9000 series GPU reveal. We should be getting more details on RDNA 4 and hopefully some GPU prices on February 28th at 8AM ET / 5AM PT / 1PM UK

Bluesky · Feb 13, 2025, 8:08 PM

[dire viper]

@potent arrow Bentley Continental Batur

Only 60 will be produced and it’s named after lake Batur in Indonesia

Oh never mind

Only 18 will be made

2.1 million per

[potent arrow]

ooo

[dire viper]

It was announced in 2023 but it sounds like they’ve just been done being produced

W12 powered

[dire viper]

Full video on it from Britain’s sassiest boy

Pwuftalkscars on social media

[wide hill]

literally unplayable

gonna be pinging from my raspberry to see if it is not just my pc

[potent arrow]

ff14?

[wide hill]

my whole network

this is just pinging google

[potent arrow]

LOL

[wide hill]

yeah it happens on my raspberry pi aswell, i need to check if it might be the router or the extender however

godddamn it

i think it might be my extender yeah, it completely disconnects from my router

yeah i can literally see the airties blinking when it disconnects

[dire viper]

How come everything cool is expensive

Need me a Bugatti Type 57 Atlantic Coupe

If only I had 70 million laying around

DOHC inline 8 cylinder with a supercharger, and an art deco inspired body on top of its frame

Ralph Lauren’s 57SC

Only 3 exist as they were a very very hard sell during the 30’s as nothing else on the road was even comparable in design

It was a magnesium body made using Elektron magnesium alloy, and due to the complexity of manufacturing with magnesium at the time, the two halves of the main body were made separately and then riveted together along the “dorsal fin” that runs from front to back

Bugatti so ahead of its time, unfortunate that the factories in France were bombed during WW2 and Ettore Bugatti had a stroke right after the end of the war which killed him, he was one of the best engineers of his time.

Every machine used in the factory was designed by him, the power plant that powered the factory was designed by him, the storm drains in the parking lot of the factory were designed by him

[odd sand]

Could probably fabricate a lookalike for less than a million

[dire viper]

It’s been done before

But also

You’re not finding a Bugatti Straight 8

And it’s not an Atlantic without the supercharged straight 8

Cause it’s the same engine out of the type 57 racing cars

I think the Atlantic was the fastest road car in the world at the time? 125mph in 1936

[odd sand]

Yeah, don't they make like inline 6 and 10s tho or something?

(Not Bugatti per se, but just some motor)

Although I imagine with today's scanning tech and the tolerances of that time, they could probably produce a replica engine

[dire viper]

Inline 6’s are common

Inline 8’s died after the 40’s basically

Lots and lots of engine configurations exist

Inlines, V’s, W’s, opposed piston

Flats and boxers

The Napier Deltic is one of the craziest ones

3 drive shafts, 2 pistons off each crank pin

The new Cummins ACE design is a 2 drive shaft opposed rather than a 3

[kind rune]

so one of my gpus fans hasnt been spinning this whole day

and its because something was touching it

i could have went a year without noticing that

[late basalt]

Seen crazier actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv8Q4bDl6lo

[brave oxide]

I need some extra pairs of eyes, current motherboard is having some posting issues and want to replace it before b450/b550 supply dries up, I'm between

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CRF5XV

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KGVH7YC?th=1

(or any additional options around that price range)

[paper tusk]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-phantom-gaming-b550-pg-velocita-atx-amd-motherboard-amd-b550-am4/p/N82E16813157934

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089CZSQB4 pro is same difference as gaming plus (different market segment)

in case the 30 buckazoids is more important (asrock has better ethernet, better audio chip, shitty rgb software nobody should ever install. usb port difference is also annoying because of colour standards not being a thing)

[paper tusk]

(looks like they are the same usb wise. different wording)

[late basalt]

Are the issues fixable, or are they pending board death kind?

[brave oxide]

I've tried as much troubleshooting as I could, from resetting bios, updating it, and over the time ended up replacing PSU/CPU/RAM with some upgrades and nothing fixed the POST issue

so I'm set on it being a mobo issue

[late basalt]

Does the board have the POST leds anywhere on it by any chance?

[brave oxide]

none unfortunately

[late basalt]

Depending on the board, it should have a way to diagnose POST issues

But then again, some manufacturers think it’s not worth the extra cents to add those parts

[brave oxide]

it's pretty much an entry level b350 motherboard so yeah lol bare minimum

I won't be moving to AM5 for a few good years at least so I'd rather have a more solid AM4 motherboard

[brave oxide]

the better audio chip does sound nice tbh

[paper tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FJ_KSizDwM

too long;didn't watch: the pins unseat themself from the connector internally (circled bad in the thumb)

[sly elk]

oh hey it's jayz

[dull garnet]

he's looking pretty white these days

[odd sand]

What's the point of this? More power in a smaller package? Seems way too complex to bother bc if you ever need to repair it, it will be hell won't it?

[odd sand]

That's some early 2000s chinese molex connector shit

Where you'd try to connect the 24pin to the mainboard and the pins would get pushed out while trying to connect it

[glad dove]

youve probably got enough cooling that it wouldnt have mattered unless youd be pushing your gpu at 100% for hours

[sly elk]

i feel like i experienced something like that more recently

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/oB75fEt7tH0

[potent arrow]

I made financial choices of all time lol

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/ftPjBq

[sharp star]

that is certainly a financial decision

very responsible

[potent arrow]

the worst part is that the gpu is like more expensive then all of that

but even if I had the mieny for the gpu, theres no stock LOL

[sharp star]

lmao

[hazy frost]

the p3 plus is cheaper rn for the 4tb one, or the mp44 is tlc instead of qlc same price

looks good tho

[potent arrow]

those are the ones I have in storage

just there for listing

[hazy frost]

oh fair enough then

[potent arrow]

Fucking gpu will double this

trying to find a 4080? impossible

looking for a 4070ti super, more possible

[sharp star]

The more you buy, the more you save!

[hazy frost]

im just not buying anything for atl a few months when stuff gets marginally more normal

£1400 for a 5080 is crazy

and people are trying to sell 4090s for l ike 3k on ebay

[potent arrow]

it's insane

but my pc is dying

lmao

I can't sit around and let it lol

[hazy frost]

rip

id just like to have a 32" 4k monitor eventually

more screen space

[potent arrow]

I just want a PC that doesn't threaten me

[lost python]

does that mean we will play more games together then

[potent arrow]

maybe if you were awake at reasonable hours LMAO

[lost python]

said the canadian who is awake almost 24/7

[dire viper]

Opposed get crazy compression

The Napier deltic was also incredibly reliable and used on large ships and aircraft

And on some trains

In the UK they had deltic powered trains until the 90’s

They weren’t crazy fast but they were incredibly reliable

With multiple drive shafts you usually have a gear box that combines the outputs and so it was easy to do diesel electric setups with the deltics as they aged

Nothing to write home about, just reliable and good power output for its size

And like I mentioned the new Cummins ace is an opposed piston

Which will be used in everything the US military uses

Abrams, Stryker, Bradley, APC’s, etc

[odd sand]

Damn, that's a lot of money for 240mm AIO x_X

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/western-digital-to-unveil-44tb-hamr-hdds-in-2026-100tb-in-2030

Gonna be some salty tears if you only buy one of those and lose the drive as a home user

[dire viper]

DOGE’s website can be accessed and modified by just about anybody

[odd sand]

Yeah I just saw an article about it being defaced. Are you surprised they would spend bare minimum time on it?

[dire viper]

No not at all

Hosted on cloudflare pages and not on government hosts

One thing the government does do well is cybersec

Considering they work with all the leading companies on it

[odd sand]

I think that varies by department, but it's likely gotten a lot better the last few years due to EO-14028 that pushed them to improve logging and monitoring in 2021

[dire viper]

Yea

There are still breaches but anybody determined enough will find a way

It’s just a matter of time

[odd sand]

Just the fact a lot more stuff is 2FA and yubikey etc. helps

[sly elk]

microsoft copilot gov 365 edition

[inland mauve]

because DOGE isn't a real government organization it's a backdoor into the government run by the world's biggest loser and his team of Redditors

[wraith agate]

Definitely not Abrams

[dire viper]

Yes Abram’s

New hulls will have Cummins ACE installed

The Honeywell ATG was an ok power plant 50 years ago

[wraith agate]

Probably only as the ignition

[dire viper]

Now diesels are genuinely good

[dire viper]

Nah

The ACE makes more power than the ATG I think?

And it takes up much less room

God bless turbochargers and modern technology

[wraith agate]

Err

Abrams run on a literal jet engine

The Avco-lycoming

[wraith agate]

The reason so is because AGT1500 generates enough power to make the tank move fast compared to its weight and also power it

[dire viper]

the AGT is a Honeywell design

Now produced by Avco

And yes I know

But also it’s fuel inefficient

Which does matter, and is the main reason why European countries never did the same

[wraith agate]

...I don't think the US military cares about fuel efficiency

[dire viper]

They do

As it makes logistics more complex

[wraith agate]

Now that's not right

Leopard 2 uses the same engine

As is planned for the Leopard 3

[dire viper]

Huh?????

Leopard uses an MTU diesel

V12, twin turbo

[wraith agate]

Really? I was sure it used the AGT as well on the latest

[dire viper]

Nope

[wraith agate]

[dire viper]

I think it’s always been the MTU since the Leo 2

Leo 1 had a different power plant

Abram’s and T-64 (I think) are the only active service turbine tanks

No the T-80

T-80 is a T-64 with T-72 shit and a special gas turbine

[wraith agate]

Okay so what are the comparisons between the AGT and ACE, because if it can't output the same wattage as the AGT the military might not use it. Abrams nowadays have a ton of electronics on board

[dire viper]

Oversimplified

It makes less peak horsepower but more torque

Same top speed in an Abram’s hull iirc

Because the limit to speed has to do with the tracks

Tracks shake themselves off the rollers

[wraith agate]

Okay that's speed, but does it generate enough power for the various systems?

[dire viper]

I assume so if they’re gonna use it

The AGT has a generator that comes off using a special gear box

Same logic would apply to the ACE

[wraith agate]

I guess if smaller space, they can always cram in an extra diesel generator

I just wonder if they will go ahead with those new things shown off in the AbramsX uhh trailer?

[dire viper]

Probably not soon

SepV4 and SepV3’s are still rolling off the assembly line

[wraith agate]

I know it was mostly a reminder to Russia after they shown off the new T14

[dire viper]

T-14 is smoke and mirrors

It’s an IFV with a tank turret

[wraith agate]

I'd rather call it a cope and seethe

[dire viper]

Considering the T-15 is an IFV on the same hull and has more armor from what people scraped during the Russian patent leaks

[odd sand]

I don't know the split, but eventually I heard they refitted some T-80s with normal diesel as well probably bc of how much of a pita the turbine was

[dire viper]

I believe specific T-80’s have a letter that designates if they are turbine

Typically the letters indicate engine, modification and if its export

[solid panther]

Boy you're probably really happy if you decided to buy a 40 series card when they came out

Cause these 50 series already got price bumped and are damn near impossible to get

and for minimal gains on the 40 series

lmfao

[dull garnet]

i was seeing 4090 used for £1400 in late Jan

[solid panther]

I know a bunch of people who have sold their 40 series for more than they bought it for

which is fucking absurd

as a USED card

[dire viper]

Yes

[solid panther]

The 5070 seemed like a decent deal? It seemed like a decent price

but I bet those sell out immediately

but also not worth the upgrade if you're on the 40 series

[paper tusk]

so far non ti is the one with the most to gain (compared to 4xxx super before it)

which isn't saying much

[potent arrow]

I've been looking for a gpu all morning

it's crazy

even if I have the money, there's no stock ;-;

[paper tusk]

yeah 😐 the 3080 ti I was looking at is out of stock

[potent arrow]

only the shitter cards are left

[paper tusk]

last time I impulse bought a card I spent too much on my current 3060ti

[potent arrow]

4060 all around

[potent arrow]

heeeey that's meeee

4-5 years ago I spent on an overpriced 3060ti

it finally died

now I'm looking at throwing money at a gpu

my entire build is cheaper then the gpu I wanted

but stock doesn't even exist

so I'm so pissed lol

wanted a 4070 ti super or 4080

[kind rune]

how is someone with the same specs almost 3k score higher than me

im using pbo level 1 what more can u do

[potent arrow]

omfg

there's more 3050 then any 40 or 50 series at best buy

WHAT IS THAT

[paper tusk]

ewaste

[potent arrow]

ARGHHHH

[paper tusk]

I spent less on a 1080 than that

as a shits and giggles buy

[solid panther]

the xx70 cards are perfect if you're doing 1440p gaming

[potent arrow]

there's no stock on anything aaaaaaaa

[solid panther]

I always go xx70 ti or super or whatever other tag they put at the endof it

and that'll last me 2 gens comfortably

So next planned upgrade is to the 6070 ti/super ti/super duper ti

[potent arrow]

I might have to settle for a 4070ti lol

[solid panther]

Bitch out here saying 'settle'

[potent arrow]

oh wait they don't exist