technology-discussion

[glossy ravine]

I had both fans attached to the same side. Only just now realized that was drawing in things.

I'm suprised this isn't rock solid or whatever.

Should I flip the orientation of the top fan while I'm here? (Its a draw in but. Heat rises.

Nvm, both are exhaust.

Tfw you have a USB 3.1 Gen 2 cable to connect but your mobo doesn't have the insert for it.

[potent arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-fight-me-angry-get-out-gif-15019636

[potent arrow]

holy that looks crusty lol

[glossy ravine]

Again. First ever build from half a decade ago. (Good god, it's been that long?)

[potent arrow]

jesus

what does it taste like

[glossy ravine]

Mistakes and duct tape

[dire viper]

I havent changed my thermal paste recently

but also I have never seen my CPU over 70C

cause I have an AIO on a 5600X :)

[potent arrow]

I don't even have a cooler on my gpu

[glossy ravine]

I was terrified of liquid somehow leaking out and damaging my rig. So I went with air cooling

Looking back that was just anxiety being hyperactive but.

[sly walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs4-mgs-snake-screaming-liquid-gif-24449463

[glossy ravine]

(Plus the pre applied thermal paste on the stock amd cooler made me feel better.)

[real edge]

air cooling is good enough under most circumstances

[glossy ravine]

Unless you're overclocking in a confined space, I don't see it being an issue.

I have a spreader thing. Should I do the pea method of application?

I ask because as you can see, I only have 1 use of this.

Maybe 2.

[potent arrow]

just spread an even layer if you want

the tube is usually enough for two applications

I usually do an x lol

but uh YMMV cuz I do it in a weird way

[glossy ravine]

I don't know why I'm so nervous. I do this kind of thing on the regular at work.

Maybe because it's my own rig?

[potent arrow]

can't relate, I treat my stuff like shit and full care towards clients lol

[glossy ravine]

God. This is going bad lmao

[potent arrow]

how did you

put a line on the cpu and pull across

[glossy ravine]

I dont even know. I started in the center with a pea

Should I wipe up whats there or

[sharp star]

My guy just do a line application

Don't bother with the spreader

[potent arrow]

yeah...just keep it simple

[glossy ravine]

Just to confirm. Wipe it up and do a line

[sharp star]

Yeah

The cooler will do the spreading for you

[glossy ravine]

Kk.

I just hope there's enough

Just a single line? And does it matter if it's vertical or horizontal?

[sharp star]

You want it to be vertical

[glossy ravine]

That looks kinda thin

[sharp star]

Apply some more if you feel like it

but don't go overboard

[kind rune]

some people do an x shape

[glossy ravine]

I saw people do 3 vertical lines

[sharp star]

Xs vs. dots vs. lines vs. "too much paste" is always the age-old debate

[potent arrow]

yet all the same effect basically lol

I do x all the time

[kind rune]

i did the dot in the middle last few times il try the X this time

[glossy ravine]

I dont know if it's enough really

[potent arrow]

it is

it spreads a lot

it's two semi flat surfaces meeting each other

the gap between the two faces will be significantly less volume then w/e you put on there

[glossy ravine]

And if I put too much? This isn't conductive at least

So it won't fry my system

[potent arrow]

kryonaught is none conductive

that's why I use it

[sharp star]

Yeah MX-6 isn't conductive either

[glossy ravine]

Alright here goes

[potent arrow]

mx-6 also tastes like shit

[glossy ravine]

Putting my cooler on

[sharp star]

You... ate MX-6?

[glossy ravine]

Why are you eating it???

[potent arrow]

must be new here

[glossy ravine]

Starting to remember why I hate this cooler

Its a pain in the ass to put on

Got it.

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/9anzLW4oGBY?si=mhO0YlIg6fPKRN4m @potent arrow u should buy one of these and daily it in the winter

[potent arrow]

how to die fast

[glossy ravine]

Now, do I put the fans going the same direction both ways?

I had it set up like this before.

[sharp star]

You... had both fans facing each other?

[glossy ravine]

Apparently.

It's only now that I'm realizing why this is an issue.

[sly elk]

i like spreading thermal paste thin with a credit card

the x is easier though

[dire viper]

the C6 Z06 has an indent in the shift gates that nudges the shifter towards 4th gear from 1st because it has so much torque that you can just shift from first to 4th just fine

[glossy ravine]

Fixed.

The cables might be a mess but. I really don't gaf

[kind rune]

is this your first time

[glossy ravine]

Yesn't

This was initially my first ever build.

I've built a few computers since then.

So unless I was going to do a full case swap. (Not yet.) I'm not the most inclined to have super clean cable management for a personal build.

If it works, it works

Idle with discord is sitting at 29-30c.

Opening ffxiv

Holy shit. It's sitting at 43c.

43-44c

Just got in. 55-56c.

This just dropped my temps by like 10c

[potent arrow]

I'm sure the fans fighting each other didn't help either lol

[dull garnet]

lol

i always read mounting pressure is all you need, and the least likely scenario for creating an air pocket

[glossy ravine]

It did rise to 63. But it's been super comfortable.

Playing FF16. Around the same temps

Though this game is more gpu than cpu

[kind rune]

i was cpu bound for 99% of ff16

[glossy ravine]

What's your CPU Ren?

[potent arrow]

then there's fucking Intel that's bending the CPUs

[kind rune]

im currently using an 11700k

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/b7niexCDNcQ?si=4y7EJ2F08Q9V2mgH @potent arrow

18 second 0-60 down to 9

Suck through turbo setups are so ass but so funny

[glad dove]

run higher rez with your new gpu - problem solved

[lost python]

ah my fucking shiit magni just died

[dull garnet]

i guess they're

made like schiit

[lost python]

ofc i am just out of warranty too

[potent arrow]

is it a newer or older model, curious because apparently their qa went to shit

[lost python]

its from 2021

before they introduced the weird new one with all the flipswitches at the front

[potent arrow]

huh

[lost python]

weirdly enough, after rebooting i have sound again but the LED inside is dead

[potent arrow]

maybe an efuse blew or something power wise is funky

[lost python]

welp, time to crawl through the depths of the internet and research what to replace them with

[odd sand]

Could see what it costs to have them do an out of warranty repair vs buying a new one

Ironically enough, I got an Asgard I had to send in for repairs immediately bc it was getting super hot and thermally shutting down within a few mins

I happened to be flying out to visit my brother, so I actually delivered it to their showroom near Santa Clarita in person for the repair

Oh! No way! The showroom just closed 4 months ago...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/The+Schiitr/@33.5738768,-169.4891345,3z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x80c28663f5b224f7:0xe37ad371e5749bea!8m2!3d46.423669!4d-129.9427086!16s%2Fg%2F11dxlfs2x0?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDIwNS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

https://www.schiit.com/schiitr

I wonder if they're completely moving out of Cali then? Because originally all of the production was done there in Santa Clarita area, and they opened a 2nd production facility in Texas. But if they're moving the showroom to Texas as well, methinks that means they're getting out of the state entirely.

[lost python]

since they are based in the US, this is not worth it

[odd sand]

Fair enough.

fwiw I quite like my Asgard. It's basically a combo of the Magni and Modi

Does take up a bit more desk space though, since it's one monolithic unit instead of 2 smaller ones you can stack

[lost python]

i liked this stack too, while it survived. but given all the shit you hear about schiit lately, i am not sure if i want to get something from them again

[odd sand]

I have not read about it, I take it they've been getting a lot more QA returns from their Texas facility?

[lost python]

ye, plenty of complaints of their stuff being done cheaply or breaking really fast. support being dicks too etc.
also they do have an EU store but the asgard is 420€ there and only comes with 2 years of warranty

[odd sand]

Wonder if they got sold to some VC firm that's now running them into the ground heh

[odd sand]

I dunno about the warranty, but the 420eur price sounds about right assuming it's the version that comes with the ES9028 DAC built into it.

As the US version of that says 409

Used to be 379, but I guess some inflation happened.

[lost python]

no thats without it

[odd sand]

Oof. Might as well just get it shipped over then lol

[lost python]

with it its 550€ and out of stock. with the true multibit dac its 680€

[odd sand]

I guess that's to account for the extra costs of wherever they're stored and warranty service is provided in Europe. That sucks.

Well then yeah, look for something else I guess if you can't get it repaired.

If they have warranty service in Europe, you still might be able to get it fixed. Or if it's a simple fix, maybe some electronics repair place near you

[lost python]

local electronics stores have condensed down into "we do phone screen replacements" and nothing else

i do not trust them with anything more complicated than that

and no they dont do any service in that eu store. its really just a store

sucks that JDS labs virtually doesnt exist here either, so my options are really limited.
might as well go back to fiio i guess. their stuff is at least very available

[odd sand]

Yeah I went into a place called "Tech Heroes" about a new USB-C connector and battery for my phone and they didn't do the reflow work to replace USB-C at all, and the battery they were checking ebay and therefore couldn't guarantee the battery would actually have the listed mah

So I would have been spending like $100 to roll the dice and also hope they don't fuck up the internals somehow while doing that bc my phone is a niche one

[potent arrow]

@lost python a bit pricey but y'know audio stuff

https://www.smsl-audio.com/portal/product/detail/id/797.html
ive been seeing people pick this brand up a lot recently

I was curious about it myself

within the last two years, I've heard nothing but good things from smsl

[lost python]

MQA

but yeah nah

oh wait, wrong one

not much better though

[potent arrow]

MQA and Flac wars keep going

[odd sand]

German engineering and their artisanal GMO-free free trade silicon and copper

[glad dove]

@lost python btw did you hear the news about german seagate hdds that were supposed to be new having >10,000 hrs of use?

[lost python]

no

[glad dove]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/german-seagate-customers-say-their-new-hard-drives-were-actually-used-resold-hdds-reportedly-used-for-tens-of-thousands-of-hours

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagates-fraudulent-hard-drives-scandal-deepens-as-clues-point-at-chinese-chia-mining-farms

wild shit

[lost python]

damn

[cerulean talon]

Shocker

[glad dove]

i forgot about the chia shit cause that fizzled super fast heh

[cerulean talon]

Dunno about fizzled, it’s still pretty viable in some cases

It’s not nearly as good as it was though, which is true

[dapper nymph]

is 70% isopropyl alcohol swabs sufficient for pc cleaning for certain activities such as thermal paste

[dull garnet]

you could use toilet roll if you wanted

but yes, it'll just take a little longer to evaporate

[glossy ravine]

To the people that helped me yesterday with the Thermal paste and such.

Thank you very much.

My computer is working great now and I don't have to stress about temps ❤️

[golden stream]

Quick question: how's you guys benchmark result of MHWild? I'm still seeking a GPU that can run Wild and selfhost AI

[lost python]

i dont think anyone has great performance

[real edge]

^

mh wilds is peak

"japanese dev was here"

levels of optimization

[kind rune]

[royal forge]

do you not like pop in and low poly monsters

[real edge]

depends on your setup

lower end setups yes

[royal forge]

nono i meant the ?bug

with the beta

my friend has ALREADY pre-ordered

but he pre-ordered on PS5

[real edge]

ohh

console

good luck lol

[lost python]

aaand there we go, first one in the wild https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ilhfk0/rtx_5090fe_molten_12vhpwr/

[sharp star]

It’s happening again!

[lost python]

tl;dr: custom cable that survived 2y of 4090 gaming started melting and burning with hte 5090 while he was playing

both on gpu and psu side

[dire viper]

Lmao

They test their GPU on the unobtainium cables

[cold yacht]

I’ve been mostly getting 45-60 fps in game with my 3070, 13600kf on 1440p

It’s playable for me

45 mostly during intense moments like lightning storm while ray dau doing his desperation attack

[glossy ravine]

I decided to get a second opinion on the cpu temps and installed Open Hardware monitor. There's like a 5-6c temp difference between them. So I'm not sure which to trust.

[dull garnet]

custom cable

[dull garnet]

hwinfo64 shows like 4-5 different temps

Tctl/tdie is the right one

[glossy ravine]

Uh. Which one should I download

Installer or portable

I tried Core Temp if that means anything

Core Temp and HWinfo do seem to have the same temps

~1c difference

And both are higher than Ryzen Master.

Has it been lying about temps?

[dull garnet]

it'll just be a different sensor

[sly elk]

they should use a damn circular connector or something idk

that connector is trash

[odd sand]

It's almost like pouring a third or more of an entire household circuit into a tiny connector is a terrible idea

[hazy frost]

600w limit connector on 580w gpu that has 850w power spikes

No one could have foreseen this

Shipping it using one cable is actually insane lmao

Idk that the guy also using third party cables on a gpu that is already dangerously close to the limit on the best possible cables for that standard

[brave oxide]

6090 will have its own built in PSU and power cord

[sly elk]

and at 12v

at some point they really would be better off just tossing a damn 120v ac socket on the back of the card

[hazy frost]

I’m not saying the design isn’t inherently flawed but someone else also pointed out the cable is melted on both ends so i think it’s fair to say it played a part in this one lol

Not like the 4090s where it was only the end connected to the gpu on the first version of the cable

[sly elk]

hmmm

[hazy frost]

The spikes are bad and the cable sucks but it should still be safe on a decent psu now that the connector doesn’t also half fall out on its own

People need to stop buying third party cables for aesthetics bc RGB isn’t worth burning ur house down

[brave oxide]

I think they were using a third party cable due to SFF

The normal cable was too long for a small case

[hazy frost]

U can get official smaller cables or just don’t buy a psu that has long cables

If u can afford a 5090 I wouldn’t start compromising for smaller cables

[glad dove]

oh shit

my 5090fe is going out from the cable nvidia provided to 4x cables to my psu

i use a 1200w asus modular psu and asus's native psu cables

[hazy frost]

They should be fine given that they’re both what’s actually meant to be used

There’s possibilities of having issues like the 4090 bc big power cables barely rated for this big power but using aftermarket cables with worse or unknown specs isn’t helping anyone’s case either

[glad dove]

that dude that burnt his card only had 1000w as well, which is too small

[hazy frost]

It’s not rly too small

[glad dove]

everything i read recommended 1200+w

[hazy frost]

Unless ur cpu is using almost 400w somehow

PCIe 5 rated psus can handle the power spikes of new cards if they’re actually rated that

So long as they’re not extremely frequent and extended

The 5090 uses like 570w stock so u would need to use about 300w with ur cpu to actually hit the limit of what’s ok on a good 1000w psu

And not a lot is doing that except the 14900k lol

[glad dove]

ya my psu isnt pcie5 but it is fine splitting with the four connectors

[hazy frost]

The ones meant for it are just rated higher for the power spikes that come with the high end Nvidia GPUs rn

[glad dove]

when it dies ill upgrade to a new one with the fancy connector

[hazy frost]

The 4090 and 5090 were both crazy in that regard

5090 especially was hitting over 800w

[glad dove]

ya

[hazy frost]

But PCIe 5 psus can accept double or slightly more than that for short periods idk what exactly it is they’re rated for tbh

But 1200w isn’t needed rly if ur using a not insanely inefficient system around it

U could probably make it work on an 850w psu although that’s definitely not recommended lol

[glad dove]

ive got lots of fans, a 360mm radiator, lots of drives, etc

[hazy frost]

Fans use like 1-2w

Drives aren’t much different

Less if idle

For 2.5” anyway

[glad dove]

just playing xiv the 5090 doesnt take much wattage

[hazy frost]

If u set power limits it doesn’t need to use close to what would cause things to be tight anyway

U could run it on 850w psus realistically bc it doesn’t actually need to use >500w

But it does anyway

Nvidia making efficient cards every gen until it gets to the xx90 and then they just make it consume a ridiculous amount of power for no reason

Idk if it’s just rly high voltage from factory like with Intels 13/14th gen making it do that

[glad dove]

lol

[sly elk]

how interesting

i unplugged my wireless phone charger yesterday to charge something else with the usb-c cable it was using

then last night when I plugged it back in i heard a really high pitched coil whine sound for a second

tried it again today, same thing, but now it's dead and not charging my phone

GG

[glad dove]

rip

[sly elk]

it isn't even a month old

[odd sand]

Classic Chinesium I guess

[frozen bolt]

Is Windows 11 good or am I falling into a trap?

[paper tusk]

23h2 is fine, but everything is slowly being infected by copilot AI trash and bugs that aren't being fixed. 24h2 is either works or shit. there is zero inbetween

[inland mauve]

I hate how they're just sneaking AI into everything now

[paper tusk]

the latest dev build of 24h2 finally added support for midi 2.0 which is an almost 5 year old standard

[paper tusk]

by bugs (in 24h2) I mean like .net update roundup refusing to run, explorer context menu going up instead of down at more than 100% UI scale, bluetooth being fuckered, problems cleaning up old patch data (DISM cleanup)

[sly elk]

including MacOS and Apple Intelligence(tm)

[golden stream]

same to Samsung AI but hey at least it's relatively dumb lol
and not full AI-intrusive atm

[odd sand]

https://www.techspot.com/news/106706-used-seagate-drives-sold-new-traced-back-crypto.html

[inland mauve]

oh wow

[odd sand]

I thought maybe the Seagate certified used drives got mixed up, but yeah seems they were fraudulently rebadged as new from some Chinese wholesaler

[golden stream]

right when I'm hunting some good used HDDs for archiving

[odd sand]

I assume that program from Seagate is fine

Otherwise there are plenty of dependable enterprise resellers. I've used TechMikeNy a few times

[golden stream]

SEA mannnnn

we ain't have much good stuff here only jank shiet

[odd sand]

Place I use doesn't have much ATM for SATA drives, but a decent amount for sas if that works for you
https://techmikeny.com/collections/hard-drives/storage_type=HDD+interface=SAS-3

Oh needs to be SEA huh? Yeah that makes it harder since a lot of the datacenters are either in na or EU, and the ones in cn probably don't get flipped in a way that's easy to verify quality yeah

[golden stream]

like rn I'm aiming at WD Red but then it's ouch in price

[odd sand]

You might be able to research where companies like Google, MS, or AWS flip their drives to in your country

[golden stream]

and corpos here ain't flip drives much

consumers usually aim at 1TB meanwhile I'd like 6TB at least which is tricky

[sly elk]

meh i just use cheap ssds 😄

[odd sand]

Yeah that sort of stuff gets cycled every 5 years, but not all of them might be lined up at once

I assume import costs are prohibitive and/or slow?

[golden stream]

in Feb, ye, mostly bc CNY and festivals stuff

rn my lappy has 4TBs, one 2TB NVMe in enclosure, 2 1TB eSSD sticks

[odd sand]

I know at one point at least, a way to get cheap drives was to buy the external ones and simply pull the drives from them, because they were just normal internal HDDs.

As quite often you'd see the external ones go on sale or get clearanced

[potent arrow]

drive shucking

it's been a while since it's been viable iirc

[shadow oracle]

My sffpc has a 2 2TB SSDs, a 1TB NVMe and a 480gb ssd and a 3TB HDD

And I'm running out of space

How? Fuck if I know

[golden stream]

AYO FELLOW SFF ENJOYER

[golden stream]

I mean, same here
2TB for w11, 2TB for linux, idk how tf my linux is already at 70%
That's just laptop/internal disks alone

The total amount of encrypted (veracrypt) folder/partition isn't that much to begin with

[shadow oracle]

Yeah I really gotta get a nas at some point

But also I gotta get my windows install off of the 480gb kingston A400

Bloody miracle that the Phison S11 survived for 8 years so far

[golden stream]

Can DAS if u don't want NAS lol

Like atm I'm thinking either DAS or NAS, each has its own practicality

[shadow oracle]

oh I have a das

I dont have an external sas port tho

[buoyant wasp]

https://bsky.app/profile/tomwarren.co.uk/post/3lht6h7cip22u

Tom Warren (@tomwarren.co.uk)

Nvidia’s RTX 5090 power connectors are melting. Ah shit, here we go again. The 12VHPWR power cable issues continue into a new generation of GPUs. Details below 👇 www.theverge.com/news/609207/...

Bluesky · Feb 10, 2025, 12:46 PM

[golden stream]

Here we go again

Any news or similar symptoms from not-5090-but-still-50xx cards?

[sharp star]

third party cable moment

also 12VHPWR cable moment

[real edge]

I run my 4080 through a corsair 2x8 pin to 16pin

to my HXi PSU

[sharp star]

Cool

Doesn't really matter

Adapter or no

[real edge]

the dude that run that was using a third party connector

and a PSU with thin ATX 3.0 plug

but he had to

[cerulean talon]

At the end of the day, we jammed 30% more power into the same cable, dunno why people didn’t see this coming

[real edge]

because of the small form factor

[cerulean talon]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[real edge]

put 4 8 pin connectors for all I care

bring back the good old

[cerulean talon]

You need 6

They’re only rated for 100-120w each

[real edge]

I thought each 8 pin pushed 150watts

[cerulean talon]

Without the 20% derate for safety, and idiots using minimum wire gauges, yes

[real edge]

I see

[cerulean talon]

Literally the same issue happening here

[real edge]

maybe I should have bought a 3x8 to 16pin cable for my 4080 then

[cerulean talon]

Pushing a 600w connector to 600w is dumb

[golden stream]

So the not-enough cable on a hungry gpu again?

[real edge]

third party cable that was on a 4090

that he had to buy cause of the form factor

[golden stream]

Ohhhh ok that explains

[real edge]

melted the psu and the gpu side

[cerulean talon]

It’s probally fine for spike loads, but not sustained 600w pulls

[real edge]

psu side because the pins on the psu were thin

gpu side because the gpu ate too much power

and the cable was not good enough

[golden stream]

Different form factor does be troublesome though
No first-party connector atm right?

[real edge]

he claimed there was no short cable for his form factor

[cerulean talon]

Tons of first party

[real edge]

first party

[cerulean talon]

Also, this is people choosing form over function, so they deserve it tbh

[real edge]

was an asus if I remember correctly

loki something

an SFX-L psu

[cerulean talon]

IMO they should just slap 2x12vhpwr on there and be done with it

[real edge]

should I have gotten a 3x8 to 16pin for my 4080 instead of 2x8?

[cerulean talon]

Depends on a lot of things, but in general, probally, all my 4090 adapters were 3 -> 1

[real edge]

mine is a direct cable instead of adapter

it has 2x8 on one end and 16 on another

[cerulean talon]

So an adapter

[real edge]

I thought adapter was if u used the included nvidia thingy

I see

[cerulean talon]

No, you’re adapting 8 pins to a 12hvpwr and not actually following the spec

[real edge]

the most I have seen my gpu draw was 230watts

aha

so I should have bought a 3x8?

[cerulean talon]

Still wouldn’t follow spec, because it doesn’t have the 4 sense lines

But yes

If you slammed the 2x8 into a higher draw card, you’d probally catch fire

It’s “fine” enough for a low draw card, but that also means people forget

[real edge]

ohh I did not know 2x8 wouldn't be enough, all sources back then said 2x8 was good enough for a 4080

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fsszrbja6gvsc1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1200%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D3da53291218be3b2bf643a32f2757c4f0abdaa87

this is the one I have

apparently the corsair ones

are EPS 8 Pins

not PCIe 8 pins

whatever that means

[cerulean talon]

Doesn’t matter, all 8 pin connectors are rated the same wattage due to molex standards

[glad dove]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/openai-set-finalize-first-custom-chip-design-this-year-2025-02-10/ maybe one day gamers can get gpus to play games again

[cerulean talon]

Not going to matter much

Google, Microsoft, etc have all had custom silicon for ai for the longest time

OpenAI not buying nvidia cards will just open up for others

Also, that’s only for training, not running models

So the bulk of their business would keep consuming gpus

[golden stream]

Training =/= running

So it ain't change that much

I'm running Backyard AI w my 4060 8gb and some smol distilled models, it's already suffering
Doable tho

yes it's for RP bots stuff but hey I like my data stay in my own device kek

[royal forge]

https://tenor.com/view/anti-horni-spray-gif-24744701

But is it actually workable?

Joking aside

[golden stream]

Workable, but the prompt is rather slow

8gb vram but 32gb ddr4 lmao, will upgrade to 64gb soon

[royal forge]

Nice

[golden stream]

Usually vram is king

And also it's dnd rp lol

The issue is nvidia is still preferred though, but AMD price-to-vram ratio is hella tempting

[royal forge]

Im surprised. I tot the ai has short term memories

[golden stream]

Can fiddling around

[odd sand]

Spreading the load out over more area is probably preferable, but at the end of the day, it's still outputting that into the same 16pin connector so it wouldn't completely mitigate the risk. It's simply a lot of power combined into a small area, for frankly, aesthetic reasons. They could make the wire gauge thicker and connector larger if they wanted to, but they don't.

[sly elk]

the part that drives me nuts about that is that it's not even aesthetically pleasing lmao

i think the 12vhpwer looks worse than 3 8pin connectors

[odd sand]

Yeah, I don't know why they didn't make it a 90 degree angle connector or something. Or why they don't point the power connector to the back of the card. I guess it must be harder to make and might be more prone to getting flexed away from the board and/or have resistance/heat issues?

[dull garnet]

it does feel like a regression of sorts

[odd sand]

Precisely because they want the pins to line up and be snugly connected -- they made the 12VHWPR connector and wiring super stiff

...Which then causes people to have to strong-arm it 180 to route it to the conduit duct/whatever
...Which causes the connector to get tweaked and not make a proper connection

[sly elk]

and yet almost all pc cases are narrow and don't allow that much room lol

[cerulean talon]

Mine had no real issues with it, and it's a pretty standard midtower.

[sharp star]

this image continues to be relevant throughout history

[torpid kayak]

I hear people used to buy PS3 to both play games and watch blue-ray video
nowadays, you can build a PC that acts both as a PC and a space heater

[golden stream]

the previous statement is actually true tho

consider the PS1-3 are heckin capable in graphic AND sound

https://youtu.be/WoTSDCtfLxk

[kind rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVs2d4V9S7g&list=TLGGWd_ZCQzoxKExMTAyMjAyNQ&t= do u guys think this is safe to use

[dull garnet]

i'm sticking to the ones in my power supply box

[sly elk]

they need a 12VSHPWR

super high power

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-anya-forger-anya-anime-anime-power-power-up-gif-11674960516942148883

brb installing 6090

[paper tusk]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-and-5090-prototypes-featured-quad-16-pin-power-connector-design

[sharp star]

I think that even if Nvidia stuck with 8-pin we'd have a different kind of fire

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndmoi1s0ZaY

[sharp star]

still extremely relevant and will continue to be until the end of human history

[glad dove]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/we-asked-a-psu-expert-and-cybenetics-chief-which-adapters-or-extensions-are-okay-for-the-rtx-50-series-his-answer-it-is-simple-do-not-buy-adapters-or-extenders-they-can-all-be-dangerous/

[wide hill]

lost cables? buy a new 2000W powersupply

[sharp star]

Just buy a new power plant

How much could it be

[hazy frost]

Most companies who manufacture half decent psus will just sell u new cables for it if u ask or have it for sale on their store

[glad dove]

i was a little worried i wouldnt be able to find my extra psu cables but thankfully i did

but yeah i have an asus 1200w thor psu which you can buy replacements for

[hazy frost]

Corsair just sell them on their website so do NZXT iirc and their C line psus were good

Pretty much any company will probably say yes if u ask to buy replacements tho

[glad dove]

ya

big name brands at least

[hazy frost]

Yeah almost everyone who sells a psu good enough to be using with high end GPUs will have decent customer service

[glad dove]

rip to ppl using cheap chinese knockoff psus

[hazy frost]

Those are as cheap as buying new cables anyway lmao

[glad dove]

lol

[hazy frost]

$30 psu what could go wrong

[brave oxide]

When I saw the 4070 I was gonna buy used 12VHPWR I rushed to buy a new PSU first to not take any chances

Bless the people keeping up the PSU tier list document

[wide hill]

wtf i just watched in, and a SINGLE CABLE has 20 AMPS

on 500 watts

and the card can draw upto a 1000 watts

150 degrees celcius

no wonder shit is melting

[sharp star]

Yeah

I know

It's amazing engineering

[wide hill]

it has to split 83 amps onto 6 cables if it is going to draw 1000 watts

yet we see only one or two cables hogging the amps

[sharp star]

How do you look at a card like that and say "yeah it's fine"

[real edge]

soon we will need a 1500watt psu

that costs 400-500dollars and titanium spec just to run a single gpu

[hazy frost]

Just buy a used 1600 T2 and call it a day

The G/P2 are also actually pretty cheap used and they’re one I wouldn’t mind buying second hand given the quality

They’re probably $300-400

Tbf all issues with power draw can be resolved by the end user so far with XX90 cards

[real edge]

the stupid thing is that 1000watt psus might not even be enough anymore soon

[hazy frost]

I mean how soon bc the 4090 was 450w and ran fine on 400w the 5090 runs fine at 500w so u need a hell of a cpu to make up for the difference

In 5 or so years maybe

Like the 9950x is top of the line performance for consumers and it’s 170w stock

[real edge]

I was told I could put a 4090 on my 750w psu and undervolt/underclock it to 80% or something

if I wanted to lol

[hazy frost]

U could run a 4090 stock on a 750w psu probably

So long as u don’t have a 13900k

Bc it’s a 450w gpu u have 300w of room for everything else and most mid range or not Intel CPUs are using 150 or less rn

[real edge]

but I decided against getting one even when they were cheap because of the burning stuff I kept hearing about

[hazy frost]

The 12vhpwr cable did get an update halfway through the generation

Which stopped the burning from not being plugged in correctly

[real edge]

yeah thats why I got a 4080super instead of non-super, so that I can be 100% sure that it had the new cable

connector rather

[hazy frost]

My 4070ti never had any issues pretty sure it used the old one at the time I got it anyway

And it wouldn’t have necessarily set on fire but the old ones could still come loose and cause issues

I don’t think it was an issue if u plugged it in properly and don’t shake ur pc around on most cards but it was poor design still

I got a 1000w psu thinking I’d get a 4090 for overclocking as well and never did

[sharp star]

Bold of you to assume that I don’t shake my desktop for exercise

[hazy frost]

mine's under my desk so i accidentally hit it with my knee or leg sometimes so it gets shaken anyway lol

[wide hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw

[potent arrow]

jfc

[sharp star]

You can't tell me that's not a design flaw with the card, the standard, or both by now

[wide hill]

i see that other third party board manufacturers fixes these issues for some reason

some*

nvm is just monitoring

[odd sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054906950044885062/1338875051042275390/Snapinst.app_video_AQPTyzmPK4TzCcgHZOURj7EVsaafgZX621QZ59eHBYG9eJqLS5UQz_PVKH53QhLo9ucbFtWV3-bW72gPHpsBDFV5rBKTESuWWmcH2T8.mp4?ex=67acac0f&is=67ab5a8f&hm=03b91396e1bf038664ba472115793c73f993c0c9c8dada312c3687abcbfe9d20&

@sly elk https://www.thedrive.com/news/jeep-owners-say-pop-up-ads-for-extended-warranties-keep-blocking-their-touchscreens
I've been trying to reach you...

[dire viper]

Yes

Don’t buy any new car is my take

[sharp star]

Buy a new car only if you have a death wish

[dire viper]

Porsche got rid of the analog gauges in the 911 and Cayman/Boxster with the mid life refresh

So don’t buy a brand new one

[dire viper]

Nah.

[sharp star]

or if you hate yourself idk

[dire viper]

Don’t buy a Tesla

Buy other new cars

Cause they’re legitimately safer

[sharp star]

much

[dire viper]

I will die in an accident in my M3 most likely

Even though it’s only 21 years old

2000’s cars are all unsafe because they’re 90’s designs, and all the good laws and testing really came around DURING the 2000’s

Car design times are wacky

The chassis number R129 Mercedes SL was designed over the period of 20 years until it was given the green light in 88 for production

about a billion dollars was spent on the design of that car and that’s a billion in 1980’s money

Now they spend less than a billion on 20+ cars

Mercedes Benz spending 2 billion USD to design their cheap economy car for the 80’s and 90’s

They then turned it into one of the best race cars of its era

[odd sand]

The Benz frontend on the rest of that styling just looks so comically out of place, like a Gundam kitbash

[dire viper]

This IS the Benz style

Bruno Sacco designs

Took the front end from previous Benz designs and ran with it but modernized it

It’s a shame that Sacco got left behind

He was genuinely one of the best designers to ever touch cars, not only did he style the cars he designed the whole damn thing

Rear tail lights that are grooved so they’re still visible in the snow? Sacco idea

Wide front narrow tail? Sacco idea based on wind tunnel testing

And then every car did that because it’s the default for good aero for fuel economy

Shit, my M3 does it to the extreme

https://youtu.be/TBhzDfGAJi8?si=Ca81yukqi19XN-9V

Really good video

Goes into great detail about Mercedes of the era

[sly elk]

this one annoys me because I have the fucking warranty

i've also been complaining about that for at least a year

they do not come up every time you stop

though there is a software bug that makes that happen

iirc if you tap x instead of tapping OK it'll do that

[odd sand]

Which is the type of error that should have been considered from the start, given they know people won't be happy to be spammed with warranty ads

[odd sand]

I meant how the rest is styled like a street racer, which you don't expect to see married to the Benz frontend style

[sly elk]

i 100% agree

[wide hill]

"odemeter must be 36000 to be able to benefit from this ad"

oh

[odd sand]

Stellantis software division 🤣

[sly elk]

that's a lie

my jeep has like 12k miles

unless they're saying <36000

either way, fuck them for doing that

i've been meaning to yank the lte modem out of my radio

there are like 3 different ads that it shows

iirc one for the warranty, one for siriusxm radio, one for uconnect guardian

ohhh I think I understand what people are talking about now

so when you start driving it hides the ad

but it comes up again when you stop

imho there's something even more annoying than that

so if there's a fire truck or an ambulance nearby it'll pop up a full screen alert

which does not automatically go away

[wide hill]

call em

[sly elk]

lol

i have better things to do with my time, but I'm sure people do that

it's funny that it requires you to call over bluetooth when the radio has a built in cell modem

[wide hill]

probably cause they don't want to pay call fees

[sly elk]

tbh

chrysler isn't alone in this

gm does it too in a slightly different way

[wide hill]

also, some might be just data cards

no phone number in sim card

[sly elk]

about once a week when I turn on the cadillac it loudly proclaims THIS VEHICLE IS POWERED BY ONSTAR CONNECTED SERVICES

and once in a blue moon it also pops up something about onstar on its screen

to be fair, unlike chrysler, they actually pay for LTE service for the radio lmao

like, I don't pay them anything

and the radio still has an internet connection and can be used for spotify and shit lmao

can't be used as a wifi hotspot though

when I was driving to work daily i used to have the hotspot service for my jeep, there was a period where at&t sold it for $15/mo and it was unlimited

and it was nice because it had a lot better reception in some parts of my commute than my tmobile service did lol

[dire viper]

Oh true

Yea it’s an odd car

It also uses a type of throttle body you will never ever see

Instead of butterfly valves it uses a sliding valve

https://youtu.be/UD71hhDBR2A?si=HGXU-48UolWtauyl

[cerulean talon]

Mmmmm. Latest discord patch is buggy

This is fun.

They're loading full size emojis and such into people's status lines.

@potent arrow Time to break the new discord patch.

[potent arrow]

oh god

[dull garnet]

reminds of certain TERA patches where you were able to adjust the size of chat messages with basic bb code

[dire viper]

Holy crap

[odd sand]

Does the lte modem patch into the car antenna? Otherwise you could put foil over it I guess. May lose some other features like the in-car nav, traffic and weather info etc.

[sly elk]

iit's separate

the gps antenna is also separate, but unfortunately the gps is on the same module as the lte modem

i could also jus unplug the antenna

[odd sand]

That's also simply Jeep being shitty bc my Stinger only displays a message like that if you happen to channel surf to an XM channel and don't have a sub. It never simply hijacks the screen to advertise that shit.

[sly elk]

right

it is absolutely that

[odd sand]

Unsurprisingly, looks like the same UX as my friend has on his Dodge Challenger

[sly elk]

apparently you can call chrysler + siriusxm and have them disconnect the service on their end entirely

i'll probably just do that lol

[dire viper]

It is

It’s all the same just different trim

Depending on if you get a fancy RAM or Jeep they change the font and some of the “trim” on the borders of the display but the layout is identical

Our Laramie longhorns infotainment has a pinstripe type design on it

[odd sand]

Figuratively putting a pig in a dress /s

[dire viper]

The infotainment isn’t terrible

It’s just Jeep drivers are the most gullible people

Jeep drivers will defend their purchase all the while complaining about the downfall of American cars and blame the Europeans

(Sergio Marchionne is the only reason Chrysler is still a thing)

After he died and Stellantis took over, it’s gone down hill

He was a ruthless bean counter and often fired people who disagreed with him but he is much better than the wolves at Stellantis

[sly elk]

they used the 8.4" screen on like 10 different models of radio, and the same software frontend as well

for like the first 5 years of its existence everyone seemed to love it as far as being one of the simpler interfaces to use

it just grew outdated, because of course, ya know, tech 😉

the interesting part was they used the same QT frontend on the 5" and 7" radios too, so it looked the same regardless

as for the color theme... on the last iteration of the 8.4" there's about 20 different themes including 'brand flavored' ones and you can switch to any of them

like the viper/srt style ones show up in the menu on my jeep too

[sly elk]

DUDE SPEAKING OF ANNOYING

my work mac keeps popping up a"use iphone as a webcam" dialog box

[odd sand]

It's amazing how much people excuse Apple's shitty vendor lockin bullshit. Reminds me of how you can't manage Apple TV+ or whatever without an Apple device.

[dire viper]

People will excuse anything

If I could I’d tell Ferrari engineers to go back to school, cause their cars are currently utter dog shit

Most outlets won’t say anything actually bad about Ferraris cause if you do you get blocked from further media deals

It’s why Top Gear had to borrow Ferraris all the time, they crucified them for quiet a while

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/tYn2COswWq8?si=a143txFiUnZNISsS

[pine thistle]

surprised Ferrari didn't take away the original owners Ferraris for borrowing them

wouldn't surprise me if they had something in their contract that allowed to just take your car away lol

[dire viper]

no

they only do lease to own

they've removed cars from the registry before but thats only caused those cars to go up in value so they havent done that since

[lost python]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-working-on-gaming-radeon-rx-9000-gpu-with-32gb-memory

[dire viper]

Just to say they did it

Maybe I’ll have to go AMD

[golden stream]

I want to go to AMD side but CUDA hostage tasks and also availability

[hazy frost]

i believe in rocm/hip

one day

blender supports it now but its slow

7900xtx is close to the 4060ti lol

or 4070

[dire viper]

One day the Anti Trust investigation will be done and NVIDIA will be crucified on live TV

[wraith agate]

Live depantsing

Meanwhile I'm suffering with another PC

Removed the CMOS to reset bios but now it doesn't even boot up (yes I did put the battery back in)

[kind rune]

[wraith agate]

I thinkies there's a contact between the mobo and the case

Shorting the whole thing out

[potent arrow]

what makes you think that

usually if there are stand offs you should be fine

FUCK WHY IS MY ENTIRE PC LAGGING

[wraith agate]

Awful creaky clicking noise when the whole mobo is pressed down

[potent arrow]

TF

[wraith agate]

Happens even when slightly pressed

[potent arrow]

I mean a lot of boards do that

maybe you are missing a stand off tho

you can try lifing the motherboard out of the case and booting it on the desk

[wraith agate]

Could be

Honestly mobo is very old

[potent arrow]

as long as its not msi

[wraith agate]

I suggested a wait time to see if maybe it starts up

Gigabyte

[potent arrow]

I will no scream

Ok

good LMAO

I was gonna flip

gigashart has bios flashback on the back btw

you could try that

[wraith agate]

On the back?!

[potent arrow]

yeah uh

[wraith agate]

Well I'll try that tomorrow

[potent arrow]

its a white usb port and a button

Qflash

[wraith agate]

My issue is, it doesn't start up, period

[potent arrow]

Like

no lights?

[wraith agate]

No lights, no sound, no fans

[potent arrow]

horrific

when you get the time to go near it let me know I can probally help troubleshoot

[wraith agate]

I think it's mobo issue because if the PC was shut down and started up, the fans kept spinning up and down but black screen

It started up only when one of the RAMs got removed and put back in

[potent arrow]

hmm

weird ver weird

Could also be the ram

[wraith agate]

While you could say "aha RAM problem", I would disagree because the clickety, rackety noise happens when pressed around where the RAM is

[potent arrow]

ok this is gonna drive me nuts rebooting my pc brb

[wraith agate]

So yeah, me thinks it's coincidental

[potent arrow]

I would have to hear the sound, but a lot of boards have flexing due to shitty cases missing standoffs lol

so Im not certain the sound is relevant

you could press down on spots on my motherboard and itll flex

[wraith agate]

I did loose the screws a bit to see if it was clearance issue

[potent arrow]

could be because it's loose too

but if it's a contact issue you'll know when you boot it outside the case

[dire viper]

L

[wraith agate]

That's what I'll also try tomorrow

[dire viper]

Sarah when are we making a rally car

[potent arrow]

rallying is for pussies

[dire viper]

Get an old ford escort wagon

[dire viper]

Coward

[shadow oracle]

I cannot think of a worst partnership than qualcomm and msft

[dire viper]

U just don’t wanna admit running into a tree at 70mph and dying is badass

[potent arrow]

meet me at jar and Claire and I will show you what my civic can't do

[shadow oracle]

Vendor that doesn't provide support vs the vendor that doesn't add any support

[dire viper]

😭

[shadow oracle]

No wonder woa is such a pos rn

[dire viper]

Did I post the rally M3

Someone turned an E46 M3 into a rally car up in Washington

[potent arrow]

Jar and Claire Rd is the best street racing spot in my city. 30km of straight one way double lane with no where for cops to park

[dire viper]

Darn I can’t find it

[shadow oracle]

And this is why roundabouts and refuge Islands exist

[potent arrow]

Tons of round abouts in my town

[dire viper]

Canada might have the worst road planning in the globe

[potent arrow]

LOL

[dire viper]

wtf you mean 30km straight

[potent arrow]

Agree

[dire viper]

Why 4 lane

If it’s that long it doesn’t need 4 lane

[potent arrow]

Its great isnt it

[shadow oracle]

Oh I'm aware but our road planners use roundabouts as traffic calming devices

[potent arrow]

Occasiaonally a kid would drive off the side tho

[dire viper]

The only reason I-80 is 4 lane is so you can pass trucks that are restricted to 60mph

[kind rune]

the day has come

[shadow oracle]

So on suburban roads you'd see a roundabout every couple hundred meters

[potent arrow]

canada is cooked

[shadow oracle]

Also tf no traffic cameras?

[potent arrow]

not really common around these parts outside of toronto

Lmao

[shadow oracle]

In areas where there's a lot of speeding the govt just put up speed cameras lmfao

[potent arrow]

I think speed cameras are straight up outlawed

[shadow oracle]

$320 fine and 4 demerit points

[potent arrow]

we really only have red light

[shadow oracle]

We have both

Sometimes 2 in 1

And we also have mobile speed cameras

[potent arrow]

look at this diabolical set up

[shadow oracle]

What the fuck

[potent arrow]

HATEEEEE

[shadow oracle]

What's the point of a roundabout if you're gonna put in a dedicated right turn lane anyway

[potent arrow]

Welcome to hell

[shadow oracle]

LMAO WHAT THE FUCK?

[potent arrow]

this at peak hours you want to die

[shadow oracle]

Y'ALL HAVE STOP SIGNS AT ROUNDABOUTS?

[potent arrow]

"yield"

[shadow oracle]

Ahahahahaha what that's wild

We just always give way to our right

No "give way" sign needed

[potent arrow]

well

sometimes that is so full with cars that its bumper to bumper

so uhm

probally for clarity

This is considered a main road btw

you cut through school parking lot

to get onto that highway speed lane basically

[shadow oracle]

Yeah we have that too I guess we just drive more civilly

[potent arrow]

there are street signs

in the school parking lot

[shadow oracle]

???????????????

[potent arrow]

LOL

[shadow oracle]

????????????????

??????????????????????

Have they heard of a fence or a gate

What the fuck?

Also your schools have parking lots? That's wild

[potent arrow]

I dont think this is the worst

section of ontario

Toronto is ass

[shadow oracle]

What the fuck and I thought Sydney road design sucked

Oh yeah hold on I gotta show you this cluster fuck of an interchange @potent arrow

Where it says Anzac Bridge right

[dire viper]

There’s like 3 roundabouts in Utah

[potent arrow]

What the fuck is that sphagetthi

[shadow oracle]

It's a motorway merging with a major arterial road

Two major arterial roads actually

And you have

8 lanes

Merging into 3

4 of the lanes merge into a single lane

[potent arrow]

jfc

[dire viper]

lol

[potent arrow]

What coutnry is this darkworld

[shadow oracle]

See the good thing about that is none of it is underground

80% of the interchange in my screenshot is in tunnels

And you have 0 GPS coverage

[shadow oracle]

Sydney Australia

[dire viper]

It would be better if it’s underground because Utah blocks are triple the average block length so this takes up like. A giant parks worth of land.

[shadow oracle]

It's the Rozelle interchange

[potent arrow]

FUCKING AUSTRALIA

[dire viper]

Oh yea

[potent arrow]

Dude I have to call australia for work all the time

[dire viper]

The 6 lane one way roads in downtown salt lake

[potent arrow]

why do you guys have numbers that start with 0

[shadow oracle]

All of our mobile numbers start with 0

04

[potent arrow]

horrific

Actually horrific

[shadow oracle]

And all of our states start with 0 too

NSW is 02

Victoria is 03

[potent arrow]

Im gonna die

I have to dial like

011 first

then like 61 for some reason

truncate the 0

[shadow oracle]

Yeah so

[dire viper]

With our 6 and 5 lane one way roads, I have never ever seen them congested because there simply is too much road

In fact, even if it was only 3 lanes it wouldn’t be congested

[shadow oracle]

0 is the country code for local mobile

[dire viper]

They could use the extra space to make bus lanes and bike lanes and just trails

[shadow oracle]

4 is the area code for local mobile

So you truncate the 0 and dial 61 instead

[dire viper]

Album cover ass city

[shadow oracle]

OH YEAH I FORGOT

[potent arrow]

MY HEAD

[shadow oracle]

See the part that says Western blah blah

That's unfinished

[potent arrow]

this makes more sense but still fuck your country lol

[shadow oracle]

And it's gonna be another harbour tunnel

So what's gonna happen

Is thag this interchange will interchange 2 motorways and 2 arterial roads

[potent arrow]

what in God's name

[shadow oracle]

Wait I lied it's worse

3 motor ways and 3 arterial roads

[dire viper]

I wonder where they do the salt flat racing

[shadow oracle]

Read the design section if you want a headache
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozelle_Interchange

[shadow oracle]

In the blue bits duh

[dire viper]

I’m fairly certain the great salt lake is larger than countries in Europe

[shadow oracle]

It's definitely bigger than Lichtenstein

[dire viper]

Same size as Luxembourg lmao

950~ square miles

[shadow oracle]

Oh yeah there's also this exchange at the airport

Although it's not quite as bad

[odd sand]

This wonderful area of the tristate:

Although the most famous one is probably Dallas:

[inland mauve]

you generally don't want highway on/off ramps to be on major roads where their traffic flows mix with local flows

not always an option of course

[dire viper]

Yuh

US and US influenced infrastructure just sucks

Cause 500 big roads that all try to be a main pipeline is mentally ill because it ends up being one road that is the major artery

[odd sand]

Also, at a certain point, more lanes doesn't help because people drive like dipshits

The only way more lanes would help is if we all had networked automatic driving cars where they could negotiate lane changes and vehicle spacing on their own.

[dire viper]

And even then 2 lanes would be at most needed

[wraith agate]

that's a horrible idea

besides the reason why more lanes don't help is because people are stupid and the more lanes you add the more traffic happens which leads to more jams

you want less jams? reduce lanes and provide feasible public transportation

and get those fucking SUVs/pickups off the damn roads

smaller cars are just fine enough

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/wZEcy_TPrJ0?si=9bNRA3xIGfbDt55S

“It’s just fucked isn’t it?”

Only way to describe the quickest car in the world ig

Everybody also talks about how big the rear seats are

Man what a world we live in

The company that’s CEO was a former chief engineer at Tesla is the one making the best cars in the world 😭

Peter Rawlinson is a mad man

He actively engineers parts for his company on top of all the CEO stuff

https://youtu.be/LueUbKHmGfg?si=g9YHv2l1IHTyNeee @potent arrow

Faster than a McLaren Senna around Virginia International Raceway

[hazy frost]

Only took 8 years

I’m more interested in how it compares to the GTD tho

But they’ve not done laps in any of the same places yet

[dire viper]

GTD won’t be as fast

Just from the stand point it’s not as fast as a GT3 RS

And the Corvette just broke the lap times on some tracks where low speed corners matter the most

The places where GT3 cars really excel at

[kind rune]

Wish me luck... I'm horrible at putting things together

[wraith agate]

If it catches on fire, send a pic

[wide hill]

i hope your warranty covers your house

[kind rune]

My house isn't gonna catch on fire but thank you for the kind thoughts

The cpu m.2 and ram are all in so I think I put the motherboard in the case now

[wraith agate]

No

Put the cooling on the CPU too

Trust, you'll thank me later

[lost python]

well not sure how much sense that makes with an aio

you should however check and make sure that it doesnt need a custom backplate or something

[kind rune]

My plan was to take the bracket off the top of the case and then mount the radiator and then screw on whatever mounting bracket it uses and continue from there but il check first

[wide hill]

one day i buy a 6090 and i have my pc up at whilst i am at work, and then i go home to a charcoaled home

[lost python]

gotta keep the tradition alive

[kind rune]

There's no manual...

It uses the default brackets so il just put the radiator in now

I found it

[hazy frost]

I’m not expecting it to be but would be cool to see what the difference really is

Given the GTD costs more by a lot as well

the styling is still a lot more out there than the ZR1 which is impressive

It definitely turns heads even if it’s not all that fast for the money

the new mustang interior is just still tacky and cheaper looking tho

The stupid wrap around screen

[sly elk]

but it only has like 37" rear leg room

I keep hearing about how big the back seat is but by measurements it's like a midsize car

unless they mean it's really wide?

[dire viper]

It’s cause most luxury sedans now don’t even have that

A Jaguar Vanden Plas has more leg room than an S class and it’s 25 years old

Like unless you’re over 6 feet it’s plenty of leg room

It’s adequate

You don’t need Maybach long wheel base leg room in a standard car

Oh wow avifs work on discord mobile now too

That’s wild

[hazy frost]

I don’t pay attention to how big rear seats are bc I’m 5’5

Any normal sized car I’ll fit into

Only one that was rough recently was the gt86 lol

[kind rune]

I can't get this clip to reach

Nvm got it

[glad dove]

woo

[kind rune]

FUCK

I forgot to take the plastic off

[brave oxide]

Just quadruple check the 12VHPWR and make sure it's not bending on either end and you won't have to call 911

[hazy frost]

Tbf it’s not a 4090 or 5090 specifically the FE either so it’s not as bad as what people are talking about

the power limit for the 12vhpwr cables is 600w and the 5090 almost hits that and the resistance across all the pins isn’t equal or something for the connectors used on the FE cards

[wide hill]

there is also that single resistance shared between all cables

so they can't adjust the ampere with the resistance per cable

nvidia cheaping out

[hazy frost]

It’s not great for the FE

Apparently one of the asus ones has a connector that doesn’t go into the gpu all the way as well

Not sure how true that is

[wide hill]

i wonder is the resistor on the connector, why hasn't third party fixed it

like, use seperate resistors

[hazy frost]

I mean third party may intend to

It’s not like there’s any in stock anyway of the initial models

There were quick revisions to the cable last gen as well with the connectors so they weren’t coming loose

[odd sand]

Small company, please understand.

[wide hill]

just got their VC funding

[sly elk]

but the lucid air isn't a standard car

that's the part that gets me lol

the model 3 is a standard car

[dire viper]

The Lucid is

It’s priced against the E Class and S Class

It’s externally the same dimensions as an E class with the interior space of an S class

Which is the important bit

Realistically you don’t even need a more expensive Lucid other than a base air unless you want more range or AWD

otherwise… it’s all the same basically. Unlike other car brands

[sly elk]

it so doesn't have the interior space of an S class

the S class has 43" rear leg room lol

[dire viper]

Is that with the seats adjusted to a 6 foot person

[kind rune]

Alright new problem

[dire viper]

Cause the S classes I’ve been in are like

[kind rune]

I can't get the front panel header to go in

[dire viper]

Not that great

[kind rune]

[dire viper]

If I’m sat behind myself there isn’t a lot of room

[sly elk]

I mean, lucid could specify a range but they don't

i don't normally see that even lol

[dire viper]

If I’m sat behind myself in a Lucid, there is still perfect amount of room

[sly elk]

if lucid is saying the 37" is with the front seat back all the way they're idiots 😄

[dire viper]

Usually they do it from center of the adjustment?

I’m unsure cause some manufacturers do their own thing

[sly elk]

that would be cool

i havee a feeling it may not be consistent with how other companies do it

oh well

[dire viper]

But like visually. An S class rear seat spacing is not that big

[sly elk]

nah from the pictures the s-class and bmw 7 look significantly bigger than other cars

like vs a camry

[dire viper]

Yea compared to those cars

[sly elk]

they look roomier than a 300 or a cadillac ct6 or something of that nature, as well

but maybe it's just the way they take the pictures idk

[kind rune]

Problem fixed it was the wrong place

[sly elk]

the lucid pictures also look roomy though so I was shocked at the 37" measurement

because like I said, that's a camry size

most full size SUVs are 39" even

[dire viper]

Lucid

[sly elk]

yeaaa that still looks like 300-sized maybe not s-class sized?

[dire viper]

E class

[sly elk]

weeeeird

[dire viper]

Lucid seating is more vertical?

Also those seats look all the way back in that picture

[sly elk]

also the seats are way thinner

[dire viper]

In the E class and Lucid

[sly elk]

on the e-class

the e-class is definitely a smaller car

it's camry sized iirc

37.6" rear leg room in the spec

[dire viper]

01 Jaguar Vanden Plas

[sly elk]

43.8" in the s-class

oh yea that's looking s-class sized

[dire viper]

Lucid and E Class are 1inch apart in length

[hazy frost]

To be fair they seem like two very different sized people in the car as well

Plus the chair being further back

[dire viper]

Lucid is 195, E class is 194

[sly elk]

yeaaa

[dire viper]

True

[sly elk]

which is kinda my point

the lucid is not a full size car

but everyone keeps talking like it is

[hazy frost]

It’s not a full size car but it has basically the usable space of one

[dire viper]

Cause it has great interior space for a car the same length as a Camry

[sly elk]

or maybe I'm just using the wrong size classification?

[dire viper]

Camry is 193 inches