technology-discussion

[shadow oracle]

(they did btw)

how did nvidia fuck the launch so badly

and how is amd doing worse

lmfao

[sharp star]

Daddy still can’t get enough leather jackets

[shadow oracle]

NO DID YOU SEE AMD?

PRICING IS CONFIRMED $900 FOR 9070XT

750 FOR THE NON XT

[sharp star]

Wait what happened with AMD- OH MY GOD

[shadow oracle]

ITS A JOKE

[shadow oracle]

Apparently it gets funnier btw

[sharp star]

I can’t believe I’m saying this but

Intel save us

[shadow oracle]

AMD apparently made retailers order stock with inflated pricing

and so they got spooked by nvidia pricing at ces

[sharp star]

this gen is incredible, really

[real edge]

900$ for XT

is this a joke

wtf

[shadow oracle]

and now they're trying to drop pricing BUT BECAUSE THEY MADE THE RETAILERS BUY STOCK AT INFLATED PRICES

THEY CANT

incredible

absolutely incredible

[real edge]

isnt the 5080 priced at like 1k$

lmao

[lost python]

9070xt even. i feel like they changed the naming scheme to confuse people and have them not realize that they are selling an almost 1000$ 9700xt

9080 is 1400 then and 9090 is gonna be what? 2000?

[real edge]

amds marketing division deserves to be fired a million times over like how

[shadow oracle]

9080 and 9090 are cancelled

[lost python]

bruh

[shadow oracle]

n4c was apparently cancelld months ago

[shadow oracle]

AMD is apparently trying to fix pricing but uh yeah lmao

[golden stream]

FixingTM bruhhh

[lost python]

fixing it by going down 50$

[potent arrow]

jfc lol

did you guys see all the talks about 5080 and 5090 stock

most places only having single digits for release

[dusty viper]

For an 650W PSU should i buy rx 7700 xt or rx 7800 xt? My cpu is I5 12400F and i have 16gb ram

[odd sand]

Wasn't the 9070XT supposed to roughly line up with x70 series Nvidia cards? What are they thinking?

[real edge]

now you get to pay a premium for AMD with none of the additional features

[odd sand]

The rec is 700W for the 7800XT, but you have a reasonable CPU so it really depends on the efficiency. If it's Gold efficiency it's probably still fine. If it's bronze, probably not.

[wild wyvern]

@real edge hey

[real edge]

what is it

[wild wyvern]

is it fine if i get 1 nvme 1 sata ssd

[real edge]

why wouldnt it be

[wild wyvern]

Both 1tb

[real edge]

its fine

its not like ur mixing chemicals

[wild wyvern]

Also if my case supports up to 300mm gpu will an 280mm gpu fit?

[real edge]

yes

[wild wyvern]

Nice

If i do not plan on reinstalling my OS when i change my mobo can i use it?

@real edge

[real edge]

you can but

you should reinstall the OS

its basic practice

wipes out your old drivers

[wild wyvern]

Oh err

DDU would help

[real edge]

theres also your old CPU chipset drivers

and other misc things

[wild wyvern]

Oh sheet

I just dont want to lock my xiv acc out lol

[real edge]

why would it lock you out

[wild wyvern]

Cuz new device?

[real edge]

wat

just log in again lol

[wild wyvern]

But i saw somone acc got suspended for suspicious activity

[real edge]

ppl upgrade their PCs all the time lol

[potent arrow]

reset your password

it fixes it everytime

I have to do it on new hardware each time

[wild wyvern]

Heck idk if i still remember my security question lol

I dont wanna lose my hard work

[real edge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615731608607260672/1309740052926169171/82900820eecc094f97e956668e3ebf9c.gif

[wild wyvern]

I even put the wrong DoB

@potent arrow

[potent arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1040624261892673596.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[wild wyvern]

Yeah damn me

[potent arrow]

support time

we can't help with those kinds of issues otherwise i would've helped

[real edge]

I contacted support for that and had it changed years ago

I remember having to input my security question tho

[wild wyvern]

How did you do that?

[real edge]

I contacted support

[wild wyvern]

Did you need an ID?

[real edge]

I do not remember its been years lmao

but I remember contacting support

[wild wyvern]

It says you need an identification for them to change your DoB

[real edge]

I do not remember its been years

[wild wyvern]

And i rather not

[real edge]

give them your grandmas /s

[wild wyvern]

Lol

No way lol

Im not gonna give them my real name too ffs

[odd sand]

I have a dummy DoB I use for things that don't legally matter. It's the same one every time so I don't forget it

[wild wyvern]

Freck im so dumb lok

[glad dove]

https://www.ign.com/articles/people-are-already-camping-out-for-an-nvidia-rtx-5090-despite-retailer-warning-about-the-january-cold

Oh my god that's fucking crazy, it's below zero at night

[spring raven]

but veldrin have you considered

they want slightly better frame rates in vidya

[glad dove]

hey i want a 5090 too, but im too old and my body is too broken to sit outside in subzero temperatures for more than a few minutes, let alone 72+h

[dull garnet]

ah to have free time

[dire viper]

Tbf the people buying these probably work remote or do something that doesn’t require office time

Be a team lead for a big company and you only have to be available for a 2 hour meeting in the morning 😎

[glad dove]

scalped cards are going for 7k ea, so they just called off work for a few days

[dull garnet]

Oh right, I forgot how scalping markets are in America

[dire viper]

It’s up to people buying scalped cards to buy them

If you can’t resist overpaying that bad you have other problems

[sly elk]

maybe so, but sleeping outdoors in this weather for a damn gpu

woof

they must REALLY need that gpu

... wha if it's not even for gaming

[dire viper]

Fair

https://youtu.be/81HOFhh1Mm8?si=XcqUSH99JDo1FM4e

Jason Cammisa stays winning

This is the third or fourth appearance on Jay Leno’s

[sly elk]

i guess this is my own point of view lol 😄 if I cared about having the most powerful gpu that much i'd already have a 4090 and just order a 5090 and wait for it to come in

[dire viper]

Yes

[glad dove]

there isnt a waiting list or a preorder for the card so that isnt an option

[kindred brook]

oh my god where'd you get that suzuran

[real edge]

I saw someone else using that gif on another server

and I just pressed favorite

now its on tenor

[dire viper]

Imo that’s good so physical retailers will have them, I think there is a lot of misinformation about who’s getting cards atm

The original leak said lots of retailers won’t be getting cards until March even

[glad dove]

microcenter will get a few, and people started camping 3 days early

[dire viper]

Basically any retailer that doesn’t move crazy volume is not getting allocations

Like Amazon should have virtually zero stock

[glad dove]

bestbuy will only sell online and theyll have a weird random system

[dire viper]

Yea

Also god I can’t imagine buying a card from Best Buy

They’re marked up bad from what I’ve seen

But maybe that’s changed

[glad dove]

nope no markup

msrp

[dire viper]

Ok that’s good

[dire viper]

@potent arrow do FD cars sit pretty low or do they have a higher ride height to accommodate the squat from the crazy power they normally run

[potent arrow]

pretty low

at least for my league

[dire viper]

Just stiff as shit?

[potent arrow]

mines what...like 2 inches from ground to skid plate

[dire viper]

Oh damn

I guess if you get north of 1000hp that changes things

[potent arrow]

uh so that depends?

[dire viper]

Cause the squat is unreal

[potent arrow]

rear is usually rock solid but front needs to be looser

but I change it depending on tire and track condition

or just

crank it LOL

my front slams into the ground

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/V18V8_v4w1I?si=o7UQN1YrqDT1Hsje @potent arrow 😭

[golden stream]

HOLY HYDAELYN OF PRICE

I think imma just need upgrade my 1660 to 3060 and call it a day, this sort of price is ridiculus

[real edge]

a used 4070super

if theres a used market there

[golden stream]

There is but the price is still high, SEA just be weirdo

[real edge]

with a new gen, ppl with old cards are gonna mass sell to get the new cards

[golden stream]

I found an used 3060 for $220

[real edge]

I see

[golden stream]

But it doesn’t mean I’ll retire the 1660, will set up a low budget build for my big cousin

[paper tusk]

meanwhile me praying I can sell my 3060 ti for $250 when the 9070 xt comes out

[real edge]

didnt the 9070xt get priced at 900$ or sth

[paper tusk]

same as 9700xt, then $600 usd (Philippines retailer), now who knows what

[golden stream]

If it has high vram count, can sell to some wannabe AI bro for self host

Or price it for wannabe streamers/vtubers

[paper tusk]

it's a 8gb card like everyone else has so best I can market it with is the 2 years it has under factory warranty remaining

[hazy frost]

They said they didn’t actually intend to do that and it was a rumour with bad info ig

[real edge]

I see

it would be suicide to price it at 900

[hazy frost]

Marketing guy responded on Twitter saying it’s fake or something a while ago

But they can’t tell what the price actually is until launch

Idk where the info came from I think it was just based on 7900xt prices

It’s 7900xtx performance so it just needs to be like $800 or $750 on launch initially

Tbf the 4080s is always $1100 which makes whatever AMD prices it at look good

[real edge]

9070xt is supposed to be at the tier of the 4070

ish

[paper tusk]

budgeting for 550-600 usd feels like a safe bet at this point (and I'll feel free to be happy if it's less than that)

minimum more than 5070 non ti but less than a ti ($750)

[real edge]

tbh id go with a 5070 over a 9070xt simply because of the extra nvidia features

or a used 4080/4080super

you can maybe get for that much USD

since ppl will sell

to get the new cards

[lost python]

I'd get a 4080s for 700

[real edge]

new dlss4 seems promising so far

and all rtx cards get that

[golden stream]

ALL including older RTX cards?

[real edge]

yes

transformer model is what dlss4 is supposed to be

[golden stream]

Y E S

[real edge]

older rtx cards get the upscaling

[lost python]

Only the new generated frames are 5k exclusive ye

[real edge]

40 gen get the framegen on top

[golden stream]

Does it also include the mobile cards as well?

[lost python]

I thought it was 5k series only?

[real edge]

40gen get the upgraded framegen

and 5k series gets the multi framegen

[lost python]

Ah

[real edge]

which is ridiculous and dumb

[golden stream]

Ah

What abt AV1 encoding/decoding?

[real edge]

uhh

why wouldn't u be able to do that on an older card

[golden stream]

I recall back when 40 released, iirc only the 4090 supported it

Nah not really the older card, but I'm curious if that feature also in cheaper 50 cards or nah

[paper tusk]

only 4xxx and newer and do av1 encode. 3xxx and newer can decode
https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-and-decode-gpu-support-matrix-new

[golden stream]

Ahhhhh icic

No worry my lappy is 40 lol

I’must fishing any used 40 card with decent vram rn

[hazy frost]

It’s not from leaked benchmarks

It’s supposed to be 5070 tier

Or 5070ti

[real edge]

ye 70 tier

[hazy frost]

The 9070 is supposed to be 5070

It’s probably faster than the 5070ti still but we’ll see

It’s likely to be the same price at like $750 when it actually launches

[potent arrow]

https://youtu.be/GxzMtPmjG_M

jfc

[shadow oracle]

amd marketing guy on twitter saying the price is fake is cope lol, I had 3 different people telling me that they were scrambling to reprice everything

[wide hill]

kinda difficult to reprice a card that is already made

[hazy frost]

Do I trust the 3 people u know more than AMD marketing guy

Not really

The idea they’d price it at $900 has no merit in the first place and doesn’t make sense anyway

Someone just came up with a number and said it online

[shadow oracle]

lol ok buddy sure

I think I trust people that work the industry over the marketing guy on twitter

[shadow oracle]

nah they were chasing margins

the problem is

they sold it to AIBs, distributors and retailers alrdy at an inflated price

[wild wyvern]

@real edge is there any diff between 6 and 8 cores?

[real edge]

hmmm

id like to say no for now

for gaming

but in the future

it might make a difference

[wild wyvern]

Ahhh

Games arent really improving that much rn right?@real edge

[real edge]

eventually

6 core will be the now 4 core

but we do not know when that will happen

but it eventually will

but for now 6 core is safe

[wild wyvern]

Ah

[real edge]

unless u want to run a game at 1440p max settings or something

new game*

[wild wyvern]

going 8 core is fine too right if i go for 1080p med

Or too overkill

[real edge]

for 1080p med anything is fine

6 or 8

[wild wyvern]

Ah

@real edge im now thinking of getting an 1tb sata ssd

[dire viper]

I found the perfect tool for cleaning the lightning port on iPhone when it’s full of dust

Swiss makes these mini Swiss Army knives that have tweezers and the tweezers are perfectly thin and bendable to actually remove dust with

[hazy frost]

I’d only worry about how many cores it is if they’re the same architecture for the cpu

Newer 6 core is better than the mid range 8 cores from last gen for gaming usually

[real edge]

thats good on a budget

[wild wyvern]

r7 5700x and r5 5600x

Its the same platform

[hazy frost]

Either is fine then, the 5700x is slightly faster even if u don’t use 8 cores anyway

The 5800x is the one that’s pointless bc it’s not rly faster and draws more power

[wild wyvern]

Ahhh

[wild wyvern]

@real edge does the r7 5700x has a stock cooler?

[hazy frost]

No

[wild wyvern]

Eeeep

[hazy frost]

Just get a cheap single tower cooler if u can’t afford one of the better ones

[wild wyvern]

ah

They still will perform well right?

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s not like it draws that much power anyway

It’s just too much for the stock coolers you’d get but they’re pretty bad

[wild wyvern]

Ooof

[hazy frost]

The stock cooler on the 5600x is just about adequate it’ll keep it at higher temperatures and gets loud at high load

Single tower coolers are like $15 tho

[wild wyvern]

also

idk why intel rakes so many power lmao

[hazy frost]

Intel is just less efficient on current architecture

And they come overvolted to hell to get the numbers they have

U can undervolt them and make them semi reasonable but still stupid compared to modern amd CPUs now

[dull garnet]

yeah the value of these $15 single tower thermalright coolers is insane

and the wraith stealth sucks ass

[dire viper]

Bring back old car advertising

@potent arrow do I buy this

[golden stream]

It's fine if you use like r5 in light/medium tho
The wraith coolers iirc OEM Cooler Master stuff
Still better than Intel stock cooler

[dull garnet]

the spire and the fancy RGB one are way better though

and yeah its "fine" but very audible I found on the 5600X

[golden stream]

I have 3600, 5600G and another one with le stealth, ye it does spin high when under load ala more intense games like CP2077

And ye, the Spire and Max are way way better

[sly walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-stormare-oh-snap-yashoney-vw-got-gif-11492916

[dire viper]

Lmao is this the Skoda advertisement

Oh no VW

https://youtu.be/pWMpHc77qNI?si=5f-nNOM3aIO4FQxt

[sly walrus]

my dad fuckin loves those commercials

[dire viper]

They crushed an OG Focus ST/RS

they crushed what looks like an Eclipse GSX

THE ULTIMATE TUNER CARS

😔

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/CAfeG5FnF2U?si=02Ktuqm8and-lGk7

[dusty viper]

I don't need to buy an RX 7800 XT, if i play games that are like 10+ years old right?

If im upgrading from an RX 580

[lost python]

if you play 10+ year old games, then you might not even need to upgrade the 580

[dusty viper]

Do i need to upgrade my RX 580 for FFXIV? Im getting like 45-60fps in this game

at 1440p mediumish settings

[hazy frost]

For 1440p decent settings yes

[lost python]

depends on your cpu too

[dusty viper]

I have an i5 12400f

[hazy frost]

The 580 is like bare minimum to run it at 1440p

The cpu is fine

[dusty viper]

Well actually my res scale is at 75 so im basically running the game at 1080p

[dull garnet]

upgrade that binch

[dire viper]

446 gigs needed

Is that for a work server

Or personal

Can your board even support that much, or is it a matter of money

Oh lmao

Just have to order it

Idk what any of that message means other than the RAM error

Is it an Intel or AMD board

I assume Intel

Cause Intel stuff just be dirt cheap on the aftermarket

Sometimes I see Xeon’s for sale for literally nothing and wonder if I should just buy stuff to make a server and learn how to do that

I do have access to somebody who works at IBM that could help

Server for all of the thousands of car pictures I already have

Gah damn

[odd sand]

Why 3 different instances of pihole?

Gotcha. I haven't done it yet, but I wanted to put my TV in a separate Vlan as well

[wide hill]

earned 8 dollars, thanks nvidia

[dull garnet]

i was thinking about installing pihole on my pi (surprise)

after you've done so does it just serve as a dns or something?

[wide hill]

yep, its a dns with a list blocklists

sometimes you have to approve/whitelist a domain incase you "installs all the blocklists" and you are dependant on that domain

[dull garnet]

Shame my isp provided router doesn't allow me to change the default DNS. It seems to be working fine on my desktop though

[wide hill]

weird that, but yeah, the dns is just what all your devices will use when connecting to it

what kind of router is it?

[dull garnet]

oh its some piece of shit provided by british telecom. we can literally only get dsl at this flat too 😂

[odd sand]

I always buy my own router, just works out better that way

[dull garnet]

yeah I know

but for 20 Mbps / 1 Mbps it doesn't feel worth it lol

[dire viper]

holy crap

the BMW Car Club of America elections finished

I think one of the previous IRS heads got made treasurer

[dire viper]

ok car people I need some opinons

currently wanting to do brake pads n rotors for my car

kinda stuck between Hawk HPS pads or Porterfield R4-S's

basically the same price for both but the Hawk is a more street orientated pad while the Porterfields are essentially an endurance racing compound modified to work in low temp conditions

[kindred brook]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Microcenter/comments/1icjxsw/bro_is_grilling_tustin_5090_line_cookout/

if I still lived in the area

might still go hang out lol

[sly elk]

some isps make you use theirs

[odd sand]

They can try, but if you run the modem into the WAN port of a router you can manage shit yourself no matter what

[sly elk]

for sure

[glad dove]

review/benchmark embargo on 5080 drops at 9a est

[sharp star]

Let's go disappointment

[glad dove]

only disappointment will be that we wont be able to buy any of these cards til next year cause scalpers/bots will eat them all up

[hazy frost]

Answer is the 5090 isn’t the same tier as a 1080ti or 3090

The 3090ti was over 3k on launch with the bad prices u got on it as well

The Titan rtx was $2500 US

[wild wyvern]

I fucking hate that the 7800XT in here is tooo overpriced here in malaysia

2.6k myr

[hazy frost]

How much is a 4070 then

Same performance

Some markets it’s cheaper

[dull garnet]

It has less ram though!!!111eleven

[hazy frost]

5080 is just 4080ti super

who wouldve thought

this is probably the worst generation nvidia will release ever while amd is making actual raster improvements without frame gen

i suppose atl the 5080 is under 1k starting

same price as a 4080 is now so its literally just like the super launch

4080super^2

[lost python]

refresh generation at high power consumption

or well to be fair, at least the 5080 is a bit more efficient

since amd is also shitting the bed, i guess my 6900xt will have to survive another gen

[glad dove]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-review

yep it seems pretty much the same as 4080 super

so only real option if you want performance is 5090

[lost python]

or a used last gen card

which i would much rather get, if only they had more vram

[glad dove]

i also have 6900xt that i want to replace with 5090, so ill just do my best to get one

[dire viper]

Lmao

5070 please be ok for the price

Embargo lifts the 19th for reviews?

[sharp star]

wao

[dire viper]

Why does NVIDIA even feel the need to make Ti’s of the bottom end card

Gone are the days of comprehensible SKU’s

[hazy frost]

I can’t see the 5070 beating the 4070super by much either lol

They’re all basically just the super cards

The 5070ti is gonna be a 4070ti super as well they’re both 16gb now anyway

The only good thing is the founders edition cards having a much better design especially for ITX builds but that’s going to be hard to get ur hands on anyway

And I suppose the slightly better 12vhpwr cable but those were already changed on later 40 series cards iirc

[kindred brook]

my 4080 super holding strong

🙏

[royal forge]

I should replace my 3090

[celest violet]

Glad I grabbed a 7900gre, no point in upgrading this gen

[dull garnet]

I'm sure your 3090 makes a great space heater

[dire viper]

https://prestigeandperformancecar.com/porsche/porsche-b4-flat-four-turbo-engine-tech-guide/

@potent arrow in depth technical breakdown of the Porsche turbo 4 cylinder

Kinda interesting setup

Even with a turbo charger and intercooler system, it takes up virtually no extra space compared to a flat 6

[royal forge]

Nice motherboard deformer

[wild wyvern]

@real edge is the Viewsonic VA2432-H ok?

[dire viper]

“American company has been here.” “How can you tell?” “Terrible product design and implementation.”

[real edge]

are the recommended displays too expensive?

[wild wyvern]

yes

abit

[odd sand]

I just saw Jensen's new leather jacket.... gator leather now? 🤣

[hazy frost]

He’s gonna have to cut down on those leather jackets with the 50 series launch

Back to having a couple hundred

[real edge]

even the ones on the pinned video with the 100$ to 1000$ displays?

[shadow oracle]

The 5080 is so fucking pathetic lmao

4% uplift over 4080S at 1440p

[shadow oracle]

Source? I want to read the whole thing

[dire viper]

https://www.404media.co/openai-furious-deepseek-might-have-stolen-all-the-data-openai-stole-from-us/

[shadow oracle]

Ahahahahaha thanks this will be a fun one

[sharp star]

China wins by doing nothing, etc.

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/no-wilson-house-md-house-wilson-james-gif-20671107

[shadow oracle]

It's hardware related tho

[dire viper]

You’ve been Wilson’ed

Judgment has been passed

[cold yacht]

Maybe I can score a used 4080 when these cards release

Going from a base 3070

[wild wyvern]

I think 100$ is fine

[real edge]

look at the pinned video

[wild wyvern]

@real edge 100$ is 600 myr for me

So yeah

[zinc sluice]

helped my friend build a pc and now its bsoding

gdi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031448154295513148/1334244850215948418/image.png?ex=679bd3d9&is=679a8259&hm=de74030110c0b7f553153e72d399561d4ef85bc1c8cc2bda5f822182c8916b6c& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031448154295513148/1334243353688014900/image.png?ex=679bd274&is=679a80f4&hm=3d8c7b85f1642636280cf60e930f6fbe244d12b48c909b21638d74de1004739f&

Gigabyte b650 eagle ax + 7800X3D

hypervisors fucking with it i think?

wait is this guy cooking

[sharp star]

lmao

[zinc sluice]

I think that worked

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-pregame-scare-illuminati-baphomet-chest-gif-11150358982865413291

Serving as a tech support for all my friends and family for over 5+ years now

[real edge]

nah I am saying it like, the pinned video with the different budgets has good recommendations

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/IYEjkbgCFLA?si=5wA6gqxKwrXWzQqJ

holy smokes

CLK GTR Roadster on US streets

also casually cruising with Tyler the creator

considering its got Golf Le Fleur on the side of it, can figure who the owner is

it is the only CLK GTR in the US also!

[shadow oracle]

NAAHAHHAHAHA NVIDIA IS SMOKING CRACK

ITS LOOKING LIKE A REGRESSION IN ERFORNANCE AHAHAHAHHA'

[real edge]

the average lead of the 5080 is 10% at 1440p over the 4080super

1k USD card

lmao

and on some games theres as little as 1%-3% difference

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lol-crying-laughing-haha-gif-16980837

[real edge]

suddenly my 4080super purchase is looking less bleak

[sly walrus]

what does this mean for the 5070

[paper tusk]

starting to look dead on arrival

5070 non ti might have only 1.5% uplift outside select cases

it has much worse texture rate than 4070 super

it's going to depend hardcore on reduced street price compared to said 4070 super

[odd sand]

BUT BUT AI 9001 FRAMES++!

Sad that I got the 3080 for 800, and seems likely if I want a 6080 it will cost me double that

[wild wyvern]

@real edge r7 5700x is midrange cpu?

[real edge]

now yes, but its still good

did you see the video for the displays?

[wild wyvern]

Yeh

@real edge an i7 here is expensive af

[wild wyvern]

Yup

24G4 is good for me

[real edge]

im glad to hear it

personally I prefer a 1440p display nowdays cause they are far cheaper than what they used to be

but on a limited budget I can understand

1080p

[wild wyvern]

Im just as shocked when i could get an r7 5700x for rm 699

@real edge

[real edge]

5700x is good

midrange nowdays instead of top

but still good enough

[wild wyvern]

is it better to get a new 500gb nvme drive as my OS drive?

[real edge]

I just have a sata ssd for my OS and fast nvme for my games

[wild wyvern]

or 1tb

ah

118gb is too less for my os drive tbh

[real edge]

too little

[wild wyvern]

Yea

[wild wyvern]

@real edge https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LKLwrH/asrock-b550m-hdv-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-hdv is this cpu ok?

[real edge]

motherboard u mean

[wild wyvern]

Ye

Hows it

[real edge]

that ones very limited as a motherboard

its stable and it works but

its very limited

[wild wyvern]

I uh dont need an motherboard with many features

How about gigabyte b550m k

@real edge

[real edge]

that motherboard only has 1 fan header

also it comes with no screws or standoffs

also the vrm temperatures are dogshit on it

[wild wyvern]

or msi b550m a-pro hows this?

[real edge]

that ones not that bad actually

it seems like a cut down version of the B550 tomahawk

vrms seem good/ok

ohh

im wrong

that thing has no VRM heatsink

why are all microatx boards so shit

[real edge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[paper tusk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NT7p99/asrock-b550m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro4

good temps and not much more expensive (also a slot for wifi in the future)

[real edge]

that ones good on a budget yeah

[paper tusk]

only 8 phase vrm so probably best for stock cpus but it'll be reliable

[real edge]

@wild wyvern

[wild wyvern]

@paper tusk i dont think we have it here

It depends on the shop too

its really weird for tech stuffs here

I would prob go for that msi b550m a pro

[wild wyvern]

@real edge https://youtu.be/Qf0-JoQLeJo?si=KG-70nrkAZ31GlFO

This is the one i wanted

[real edge]

thats the ATX version

you said B550M-A Pro

[wild wyvern]

MATX

[real edge]

yeah

[wild wyvern]

Yes

The same

[real edge]

B550M-A Pro is different

from B550-A

[wild wyvern]

Crap lol

Anyways im not really gonna OC it too

[lost python]

just AI generate some stock value

no big deal

[inland mauve]

fighting the temptation to open bsky in public

it's annoying that so many people on there don't properly tag nsfw stuff

[royal forge]

Opening twitter or bluesky

Damned either way

[inland mauve]

[sharp star]

I'm trying to not open Twitter at all but I end up doing so

Sixteen years of typing the first two letters of "Twitter" does that

[inland mauve]

damn it almost did it again

[hazy frost]

This is why I have two accounts

I can’t open any social media without seeing something questionable anymore anyway

Reddit Twitter bsky instagram even if it’s not nsfw it’s as close as u can get without tagging it lol

[sharp star]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3296135/chinese-algorithm-boosts-nvidia-gpu-performance-800-fold-science-computing

[inland mauve]

oh interesting

what did they solve?

[sharp star]

FUCK it’s paywalled

Hang on

[inland mauve]

oh neat they developed a framework that takes advantage of the GPU architecture

[sharp star]

Yeah

It’s a peridynamics boost

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/wario64.bsky.social/post/3lgxmmy4vfr2o

Wario64 (@wario64.bsky.social)

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Bluesky · Jan 30, 2025, 1:46 PM

Good luck

[inland mauve]

this baby can generate so many frames

[sharp star]

Generate deez

[inland mauve]

what's even the point, scalpers are gonna scoop all of 'em up with their army of bots and then sell them for twice the price

[potent arrow]

allegedly most. retailers have double digit 5090 at best loo

[inland mauve]

LMAO

[sharp star]

https://videocardz.com/newz/rtx-5090-lottery-in-japan-ends-in-chaos-buyers-climb-fence-of-next-door-kindergarten

absolute power move

[lime wasp]

I tried for the 5090 just for giggles

Got in line, but they sold out

Oh well.

Kinda hate that I might have to get a 50 series card just because Devs are going to try forcing RT and AMD doesn't RT that well

Even though I don't care about RT because it just fucking murders framerate

[sharp star]

Apparently there were only 233 5090s total across the entire US

[lime wasp]

I do find it kinda funny that the 5090 isn't actually that far above the 7900 XTX for regular raw performance in 1440p and 4k - not enough to justify the cost anyway

Its only RT and MLFG that make Nvidia top right now

AMD probably should've made a halo-tier card too, and sold it at like $1,200/$1,500

Would've absolutely dick punched the 5090 and made the 5080 irrelevant

[inland mauve]

RT is overrated except for a few very specific cases

I turned it off in Elden Ring because it just made the game stutter at inconvenient times

[lime wasp]

RT is for people who prefer screenshotting over playing the game

[dire viper]

Mehhhh

Cyberpunk with everything cranked is insane

I agree that forcing raytracing is crazy

Minecraft Bedrock with ray tracing

[glad dove]

yeah that 5090 launch was a fucking disaster

supposedly some people got them, but definitely nobody i know

[dire viper]

Is the NVIDIA stock still dropping

Yes

[hazy frost]

AMD doesn’t RT that well kind of doesn’t matter when their GPUs cost half the price for 10% less performance

The 7900xtx was the same as a 4070ti for ray tracing already

4K ray tracing isn’t gonna be attainable without frame gen on anything anyway might as well buy the AMD ones and play at 1440p

5090 is getting like 70fps in some badly optimised games with ray tracing already lol

[inland mauve]

is it dropping bc the 5070 is shit?

nvidia so obsessed with the xx90 they forget the xx70 is the enthusiast gpu and the xx80 is the hardcore one

[dire viper]

It’s dropping because of AI

[inland mauve]

the xx90 is for the truly deranged

[inland mauve]

oh shit is it finally happening?

[golden stream]

rather, with deepseek, 5090 is dropping

[inland mauve]

is the AI tech hype finally running its course?

[golden stream]

yesn't

[dire viper]

Chinese open source AI

that’s superior to western models supposedly

[golden stream]

rather there are AIs that can run way more efficient over western models

[inland mauve]

oh that one

[golden stream]

hmmmm I'm tempting getting a deepseek model and try selfhost a wee bit

yes peepo do selfhost

[inland mauve]

it is very funny to see the trade restrictions on chip manufacturers to China backfire by them developing more advanced algorithms that don't need the hardware

[golden stream]

more like, it can run in lower price hardwares ala xx70 or xx80

even that, western model is chill with sufficient vram on backyard anyway

still, 5090 32GB is quite tempting lol

[dire viper]

The issue is the open source

[golden stream]

well China has some REALLY nice looking nvidia cards, and they ain't release to the west

[golden stream]

also that ye

though I'm reading OpenAI accusing Deepseek using their model to train

[dire viper]

OpenAI is stupid

Apparently people that know more than me have said that the whole “more data is more better” is not true at all

It’s the lazy approach

[inland mauve]

yeah it's the same load of bullshit that these stagnant techbros tried to sell with Big Data

if you mix every dye in a big bucket you also just get a brown drab

[golden stream]

brown-black blob ye

actually that's a hella smart way to use models

if can use specific part of model for specific task/field, it may be even able to host on much lower demand hardwares

no deepseek image gen yet

[dire viper]

The lot behind a bar in France

GT40, 906, some cars I’m not familiar with

This is a Le Mans GT40 so lol

Meanwhile the Ferrari’s of the era trade around 17-25 million

So yes, a relative bargain.

@potent arrow image above

[potent arrow]

huh

neat

[dire viper]

There is a yellow blob in the top left of the image, that’s a sign that used to be behind the pits on Le Mans but was removed during a renovation so this picture was probably taken in the 80’s/90’s

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/news/602096/copyright-office-says-ai-prompting-doesnt-deserve-copyright-protection

[wraith agate]

That's right

Because everyone can do that

Everyone can type "monkey shaving man"

[sharp star]

But can monkeys write Shakespeare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no_elVGGgW8

[wraith agate]

With enough time

[odd sand]

article says Samsung offering 70% off preorders of their new phone thru Friday
requires trading in last year's top of the line Samsung phone to get said pricing

Then it's not really offering 70% off if you need to give them your current phone lol

[odd sand]

At least there's one voice of sanity around all this "AI" craze.

[wraith agate]

Not really but at least this stops some people from creating more e-waste

Or at least that's the idea

Because realistically anyone who has the current top line phone and wants the new coming top line will just toss the other one away

[dire viper]

If you don’t want E waste blow up everybody

Cause e waste means more sales

Fundamentally bad business to make a product that lasts longer than a few years unless you have really good margins and said product is based on an existing belief of durability and longevity with its consumer base ie Stanley, Garmin, Casio

[inland mauve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uYhIiW6lok

[wide hill]

company: generates ai picture
me: whoops now i own it now
company: noo we made it, we own the copyright

[odd sand]

I think I'm going to try to save some money and get my phone repaired instead, but I need to source a battery for it then.

And they never made OEM ones for my handset, so I may need to find some gently used one with a cracked screen or something to pull the battery from.

[odd sand]

Forgot the part where:
company: generates ai picture using other peoples copyrighted material as reference without paying them

[wide hill]

i can imagine some idiot company ai generating their company logo, and get their trademark invalidated

[paper tusk]

frame generation off

https://i.imgur.com/Gp9vFK4.png

frame generation on

https://i.imgur.com/6gEHG1C.png

[wide hill]

is that an ai generated image? i guess i own cyberpunk 2077 trademark now

oh damn the artifact is bad

[sharp star]

crunchy

[kind rune]

looking at frame generation through still images doesnt really make sense

[paper tusk]

dlss 4 (preset J) is a giant improvement

K is slightly better in silent hill 2 remake hair but J might be barely sharper in general foliage. will have to see in motion. edit: preset K might have ghosting issues

[dire viper]

NVIDIA when pushing technology that’s only stopgap

[hazy frost]

Whatever it takes to not actually make good hardware bc software gimmicks and buzzwords sell more products for less cost to the company

[gentle star]

It's...... So bad

[hazy frost]

Who could’ve known another AI feature would be bad

[gentle star]

Smeary mess

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[gentle star]

Like fxas all over again

[hazy frost]

Basically the same as before

Good stuff

[gentle star]

Fxaa for your frames

[hazy frost]

Atl the new ray reconstruction and DLSS models are good

And the Nvidia app actually has useful features now

The 50 series exclusive stuff tho? Not great

[gentle star]

Does the auto-optimization still break FFXIV

[hazy frost]

I’m not sure lol

Probably

Being able to force DLAA is kind of cool tho

[gentle star]

I'm legit still on GeForce experience at this point cause everything works right now and transitioning to the new system isn't something I wanted to have to deal with

[hazy frost]

So many games have bad TAA implementations

[hazy frost]

I stayed on it for a while but the new one is actually so much better

[paper tusk]

just don't play cp2077 with ray reconstruction (crash happy at the moment)

[gentle star]

But I wonder how newer drivers might affect FFXIV

[gentle star]

I don't think I've updated drivers in

[hazy frost]

Don’t ask me how much Nvidia is paying for me to shill their software

[gentle star]

I don't even Wana think about how long I can't remember if I used the latest when I installed my 4070tiS

[hazy frost]

I’m actually the biggest Nvidia hater recently and even I like it I think it’s actually better than adrenaline now

[lost python]

does nvidia have a feature yet that limits your fps when you go afk ingame

[paper tusk]

that's an ffxiv feature (it'll cap frame rate to something like 20 fps in engine)

globally? nope

[gentle star]

Yeah I was traditionally always an amd advocate but have been using Nvidia since I got a 2nd hand 1080ti; I'm pretty sure amd has a gpu boost equivalent but I honestly just got tired of manual overclocking at the time

Then I got locked in with an aw34 with gsync

And then when I upgraded to aw38 (aw34 backlight died) I was deciding between the two, but for the game I was looking at (HFW) the Nvidia features were better

[lost python]

damn

[gentle star]

But then I only endded up playing FFXIV

Where I don't even use the features

Maybe I'll give it a shot with the new app this weekend

[hazy frost]

I’m still an AMD advocate but Nvidia have been doing some good work on features for all users just dropping the ball on new hardware releases

New software is good, updates to DLSS/RR models are good, 50 series…. Lmao

[gentle star]

[hazy frost]

Whereas AMD haven’t made anything better but release decent new hardware

[gentle star]

Wish they'd stop cooking with the ai stuff and focus more on the other stuff

[hazy frost]

On the other hand AMD didn’t have software that looked like its from the dark ages before so

Not much to update

[lost python]

ai makes a lot of money though, because everyone is absolutely horny for it

[gentle star]

I can't wait for it to die off (won't happen)

[lost python]

still cant ai generate stock or vram though

[gentle star]

[hazy frost]

AI generation eats ur vram instead

Other problem with frame gen is in games where ur getting low fps ur often also using a lot of vram so turning it on would just use up the rest when it came out on some GPUs

[lost python]

man i just want more memory for blender and my choices if i want cuda are: 2500-3000$ gpu. nothing below that

[gentle star]

Speaking of new hardware, I hate so much that motherboard prices haven't stopped rising

[hazy frost]

Rocm/HIP get better faster please

[lost python]

HIP is at least finally stable in blender now... well "stable", but its still a good chunk slower

[hazy frost]

AMDs cards they were selling to AI companies are apparently actually developing quickly

[gentle star]

At this point I can't justify upgrading my 5ghz 8700k for the price of replacing 64gb ram, motherboard, cpu and having to get a new cooler bracket

[hazy frost]

I have hope for AMD having a good substitute for the AI/cuda stuff in the next couple years even if Nvidia is on the same BS

[gentle star]

That would make me so happy

[hazy frost]

Some cooler companies would send u the new bracket if u emailed

Depends which one

[gentle star]

Nzxt

[hazy frost]

Maybe not lmao

[gentle star]

Yeah

[hazy frost]

I upgraded to am5 and it wasn’t that bad considering I bought it a month after it came out p much

[gentle star]

It's like 6 years old at this point? quite glad I haven't experienced any malfunctions

[hazy frost]

Rn it’s like $400 for motherboard 64GB and a new cooler for am5 still

[hazy frost]

It’s only a matter of time

[gentle star]

I'd like to upgrade but alas! other costs gotta come first for me (orthotics, adaptive bipap, new work boots, saving for trip this summer)

Maybe next year

Or maybe when the pump eventually dies

[hazy frost]

The fact an NZXT product with moving parts lasted longer than the time it takes for warranty to expire is impressive really

[gentle star]

Was/is a kraken x62? The 2nd gen 280mm with the infinity mirror thing

[hazy frost]

I still have 1 NZXT case fan in my h7 bc I’ve been too lazy to install the P14 I bought 4 months ago to replace it

[gentle star]

After seeing recent events concerning nzxt I won't be getting another nzxt one

[hazy frost]

My fans are NZXT and EK

I have made bad decisions

[gentle star]

I still love my s340 elite tho

Such a sharp case

(black and white)

[hazy frost]

I’m waiting for a new decent looking black and white case

For now I have the white h7

The old one not the 2023? Or 24 one

There used to be cool two tone cases from NZXT like H510 was nice and phanteks had the p500a

No one makes them anymore

Fractal kind of have one I think but it’s pretty ugly

[gentle star]

Random old outdated pic

[gentle star]

Oof

[hazy frost]

I can feel the lack of airflow in old NZXT cases but they do look good at least

[gentle star]

Yeah I'm still up in the air if I wanna get a new case at this point cause all the nice ones are getting pricy too

[hazy frost]

Yeah

I got my h7 on sale for like £60 I think but now what I’d want to replace it with is twice that so I’m just keeping it

[gentle star]

It's not as good as airflow cases but honestly the s340E surprisingly isn't terrible either

Especially with the radiator intake my temps have always been great and components quiet

....however with the 2 140mm exhausts, by virtue of the radiator in the front, there is negative pressure

But it's a dream compared to like... The old phanteks p400

[hazy frost]

U can’t mount the 280 on the top in that one can u

It’s 240

[gentle star]

Nah, not even 240

Only 140mm on top and the back

[hazy frost]

Rip

[gentle star]

280 is a perfect fit for the front and that's it

Works for what I need it tho, mobo components remain mild and cpu is nice and cool

NGL I haven't even bothered to look at my gpu but I'm sure it's fine

[hazy frost]

I could get a 420 rad on the front of mine but I don’t think that’s feasible lol

[gentle star]

Caveat that my cpu is delidded with liquid metal

[hazy frost]

That’ll help

I run my fans at like 20% to keep it quiet so I need my airflow

Obsessed with keeping my pc inaudible

[gentle star]

I used to be super super stringent about my noise too

[hazy frost]

Really I should undervolt as well but I haven’t

[gentle star]

But now I run with my kitchen and washroom fans running all the time

[hazy frost]

And have my gpu at above 100% power limit for OC

[gentle star]

Drowns out the tinnitus and makes me less self-aware /self conscious about the noise I make in my apartment

[hazy frost]

I’m considering an AIO but at the same time pump noise at idle might annoy me more than louder noise under load from air coolers

[gentle star]

I've had a bad pump idle before

Corsair cooler

Thankfully the krakens been quiet

[hazy frost]

NZXT and Corsair use asetek still I think so I wouldn’t be surprised by either of them being loud

It’s just luck as well whether it’s bad or not

The cheap AIOs just aren’t too quiet unfortunately even tho they’re impressive cooling

[gentle star]

That really good CLC isn't available in NA anymore eh due to the uh.. sanctions or whatever eh

Or was that a different brand

You know the one I'm thinking of surely

[hazy frost]

Was it deepcool

I think they got banned

[gentle star]

I forget exactly but I wanna say like

[hazy frost]

They made good AIOs

[gentle star]

Frozer 2 or whatever

Had like a fan on the thing

On the pump or whatever

Gamersnexus raved about it a lot for being so much ahead

[hazy frost]

Arctic ? I didn’t think they got banned

U can still get those in the US

[gentle star]

Ah

[hazy frost]

Deepcool got banned for some stuff they did

[gentle star]

That's the one I was thinking of then

[hazy frost]

They made good stuff but not as cost effective as Arctic

[gentle star]

Arctic or whatever

[hazy frost]

Deepcool make the one I’d really like tho lol

Probably the best looking one sold rn imo

And best performing tied with a couple others like the new Arctic one iirc

[hazy frost]

Can still get their stuff the latest one is like $90 US for the 360mm

Which is pretty crazy

[gentle star]

That's definitely not bad

(ugh I gotta go collect oil samples >.>)

[glad dove]

holy shit i got a 5090

[sharp star]

Enjoy your missing liver

[glad dove]

now i can push some fake frames in limsa lol

@kind rune

[spring raven]

$2100 for a fucking video card

congrats I guess

[glad dove]

i wanted the 2800$ asus rog astral

[spring raven]

that's wild to me tho

[glad dove]

but ill take the FE

[glad dove]

whats wild to me is that to play the new spiderman 2 in 4k it requires 4090, and since 5080 is 20% slower than 4090, your only option is 4090/5090

[spring raven]

[hazy frost]

it says for ultimate ray tracing tbf

im willing to bet u can get 60 fps with a 4080 with just dlss SR on no frame gen

[hazy frost]

not any different to expensive cars or clothes or whatever else

some people can afford them some people cant

[wide hill]

-2000$ usd that could have been put into a stock

[hazy frost]

chat smells like jealousy rn

[wide hill]

why would i be jealous, i don't have 2000 usd

i wouldn't have been able to buy it anyway

[dull garnet]

while i do have 2000 usd i don't earn enough to feel comfortable dropping it on a video card 💀

[glad dove]

im a boomer with a wife, kids, dog, house, multiple cars, etc, and i'm paid well

when i want to splurge on something now and then, i talk to the wife and do it

[hazy frost]

yeah i could buy one but i dont work atm so im not gonna buy one lmao

would be stupid of me

[dull garnet]

i never buy bleeding edge anyway, i always go price/performance... sort of

damn you nvidia

[hazy frost]

i dont play at 4k but would like a 4090 for 1440p

[wide hill]

i could put up a loan for 50 usd a month for a 5080

[glad dove]

honestly i was giving up hope on getting this card based on how the morning's release went

[hazy frost]

ur the only person ive seen actually get one lol

[glad dove]

several of my friends and coworkers were trying as well

[glad dove]

i was the only one

[wide hill]

that one is 1700 usd, for a 5080

[hazy frost]

i never care enough about it to try on release but this one is especially terrible lol

[glad dove]

had it not worked out, i would have gotten the new amd 9070xt?

[hazy frost]

9070xt is probably just 4080/5070ti tier

[glad dove]

that new amd card is supposed to be 10% slower than 5080

[hazy frost]

so u got a better card anyway

[glad dove]

for 600$

[hazy frost]

supposedly

[hazy frost]

i might buy one if the power draw ends up being ok

[wide hill]

this one 1850 usd

[lost python]

germany is fucked. look at these prices

[glad dove]

yeah some of the AIB models are crazy

[hazy frost]

i got my 4070ti bc it saves like £100 in electricity a year over the 7900xtx lmao

[glad dove]

i was ready to drop 2800$ on the asus 5090

heh

[wide hill]

wtf, double the price than in my country

[dull garnet]

yeah my 4070 uses the same amount of power that my 3060 ti did

[hazy frost]

fortunately this gens founders edition is pretty nice anyway

nice cooler design

[lost python]

and these are apparently the final prices

[wide hill]

they are still selling like hotcakes

[hazy frost]

my 4070ti uses 300w i think if i have the oc profile on but its 260w if u limit it for same as stock performance

[glad dove]

yeah its a pretty card, im just worried a bit about temperatures

[dull garnet]

4070 is 200w

[hazy frost]

4070ti is 290w or something

[wide hill]

people would buy the latest and greatest no matter the price almost

[signal fable]

I would have probably choose the 4070 ti instead of the 7900xt if it came out at decent price here in italy

[hazy frost]

but u can run at like 260 and its the same

[glad dove]

also holy shit 600w card

[hazy frost]

yeah 7900xt was more expensive on launch in UK as well

[glad dove]

my power bill is going to go up lol

[hazy frost]

and 7900xtx was insane

£1000 for a 7900xtx £850 for a 7900xt or £750 for a 4070ti

[dull garnet]

i used to undervolt my 3060 ti and it had more stable clocks anyway lol

[signal fable]

i got it for 600 euros and if im not wrong it's supposed to be msrp price?

[hazy frost]

4070ti was 750 ish

4070 was 600

then dropped to 550

[signal fable]

it's a pretty solid card but sadly not in the power consumption department

[hazy frost]

bc it sold terribly

[lost python]

every single one that was available is gone already.
also the 5080 is listed now too and its 2000-2500€

[hazy frost]

7900xt msrp was stupid bc it was to upsell the 7900xtx

[glad dove]

damn what country?

[hazy frost]

it was like $800 for 7900xt 1000 for xtx

[lost python]

germany

[glad dove]

fuck

[signal fable]

damn

[hazy frost]

theres no 5090s in the UK anyway

[signal fable]

so i got it for a decent price

[hazy frost]

retailers had like 10 total probably lmao

[glad dove]

what hilarious was that they shared stock of all the 5090s/5080s that came to microcenter locations across the whole US

[hazy frost]

i could preorder for april for 2100 at best

[glad dove]

there were 200x 5090s and 2000x 5080s in all of the country

[hazy frost]

its meant to be 1900 here for the FE

[wide hill]

i think it's just too expensive, that the stock will easily just be left in dust after a few months

i really see no like need to buy a 5090 card when you could get a 4090 cheaper (if you could get one who would want to sell it for cheap)

[lost python]

yeah but then again, german hardware boomers eat up every piece of shit that intel or nvidia drop, no matter the price

[hazy frost]

its funnt uk retailers saying theyre only selling 1 50 series card per customer as if they have more than 5 5090s and a couple 5080s

theyre selling none

[lost python]

they kinda act like car nerds or phone nerds, always getting the newest most expensive card and then pretend its no big deal

[glad dove]

wonder why that is that germany is selling for so much more than other country

[hazy frost]

damn theres actually one 5080 available still

£1600

[wide hill]

in our store is also completely sold out ages ago

it even crashed their website

the literally only website where you could buy a graphics card

[lost python]

because people still buy. they always blame taxes and shit for the higher prices but its nonsense

[hazy frost]

5080 isnt worth close to this price i cant believe idiots bought this

[glad dove]

thats dumb, im sorry

[hazy frost]

1600 for a gpu thats 5% faster than the one selling for 950 rn in stock

[wide hill]

8% perf boost

[hazy frost]

atl the 5090 is actually fast

750 premium for frame gen

epic

lmao

[wide hill]

until my 2070 super dies, i am never going to get a new gpu

i got mine when i couldn't play death stranding on my 780ti

[dull garnet]

that's the sensible way to upgrade

[hazy frost]

i got my 4070ti bc the 1070 was not doing its thing anymore

[dull garnet]

i didn't even really feel comfortable spending £590 on my 4070 and that's barely a mid range card

[glad dove]

main reason why i am going for the 5090 is because i bought the samsung 49" ultrawide oled 240hz monitor in addition to having an lg 27" 144hz 4k, and my poor radeon 6900xt is struggling to push decent fps on 5120x1440

[hazy frost]

i never feel comfortable spending money but i know im gonna spend 1000s of hours on my pc so i can justify it to myself

[dull garnet]

there is that

[hazy frost]

and i think about how much i spend on stupid crap in a year and compare it doesnt seem so bad

[wide hill]

the worst part about if my 2070 super dies is that i have to spend money to replace it

[hazy frost]

the only upgrade ill do is gpu so £1000 for everything else is gonna last me like 4 years ish id say and thats 250 a year

ive spent 250 a year on much stupider things

[dull garnet]

but then i'm like old video games

i guess its the depreciation aspect but that's just tech (largely)

[glad dove]

hopefully i can get 6 years (3 generations) on this gpu

[hazy frost]

i could buy top of the line pc or one 1/7 scale anime figure

choices

[glad dove]

then 2,000/6 = 333.33$/yr 🙂

[hazy frost]

id say yes but the resolution of that monitor is rough

if ur playing new games on it that is

[wide hill]

i really want a raise

[glad dove]

yeah its basically 4k

im more worried my older cpu/motherboard/ram will tap out earlier

[hazy frost]

high res its gonna be gpu bottlenecked mostly anyway i have to imagine

[dull garnet]

dare we ask what cpu you have lol

[hazy frost]

youll get a good few years out of the gpu anyway lol

[glad dove]

amd r9 5900x with 32gb ram

[hazy frost]

yeah thats fine

[glad dove]

dark hero motherboard pcie4

[hazy frost]

u wont need a new cpu before a new gpu at 4k

[glad dove]

spiderman wanted faster/newer cpu 😦

so im a little worried

[hazy frost]

it says that but i dont believe it

i dont believe the spec requirements bc 1440p ray tracing is a 5900x but apparently 4k and higher RT settings means u need a 7800x3d?

if its good for 1440 should be good for 4K

[glad dove]

dont have another 2k to build a top of the line rig with cpu/motherboard/ram

[hazy frost]

not sure what setting in ultra vs high requires a cpu thats like 50% faster

[glad dove]

so i'll deal with it

[hazy frost]

youll be fine

the recommended specs always seem strange to me for upcoming games

[glad dove]

maybe digitalfoundry will do a graphics breakdown when it launches and we'll get a bit more info

[hazy frost]

when phantom liberty came out for cyberpunk they re ceommended a 7900x for RT ultra at 1080p

i have a 7700x at 1440p and it still ran with my gpu being a bottleneck

[dull garnet]

feels more like a marketing exercise

[hazy frost]

yeah

[glad dove]

i havent seen what RT looks like cause it destroys my poor 6900xt

[hazy frost]

pretty sure they just slap the cpu from the test rig in it or something and they pair the top of the line cpu with the top of the line gpu

and they just go yeah write that down

[hazy frost]

cyberpunk is the best game to show it off

aw2 also pretty good

[glad dove]

what is aw2?

[hazy frost]

alan wake 2

[glad dove]

ok i have that as well

nice

i guess i can go back and finish liberty city since i stopped playing midway through that expansion

[hazy frost]

cyberpunk with path tracing brings even the 5090 to its knees tho

[glad dove]

time for fake frames

lol

[hazy frost]

regular dlss will proably get u to 60

4K ultra RT the 5090 gets like 55fps in cyberpunk

[glad dove]

ill probably hold off on installing the card until after the weekend, cause my static is scheduled to go sat/sun 7-10p est, and i dont know with my schedule if i'll have enough time to pop the card in and rebuild my rig and get everything reinstalled in time

[hazy frost]

up 25% from the 4090 tho so

[glad dove]

raiding is more important at the moment

[hazy frost]

no RT vs path tracing is crazy tho

[glad dove]

ive read about it and it sounds amazing

[hazy frost]

its pretty good

i think more games have ray reconstruction too which just makes ray tracing better as well

[lost python]

im glad cyberpunk lets you enable path tracing only for screenshots

[hazy frost]

with the new dlss model i can use balanced to get 60 fps with PT on and looks the same as the old one on quality where i got 50

[glossy ravine]

Uh

I opened ff16 on pc.

Game needs to recompile shaders.

I... probably need to replace the thermal paste.

The second the shaders finished the cpu immediately dropped to 55c.

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/ADfwC4wojG0?si=9DoFwcX7cDVGBuLU the funny youtuber did it!

only 94 Alpina B12 6.0's were made

this is one of the 94

and its getting a full restoration :D

@potent arrow

funny limousine that can cruise at 180mph

424hp, 443 lb ft

only made from 99-01

all N/A

the only reason its cheap is because someon had LPG fitted to it for some reason???

[glossy ravine]

I. Don't know if I can fully trust the temps on ryzen master