that's the claim
#technology-discussion
sly walrus
sly walrus
people are saying it's gonna need hella dlss to pull it off
but we'll have the cards soon
cerulean talon
Yeeeesh, rumors on the 5090 gives a 20% bump in die size over a 4090.
700-ish sqmm.
paper tusk
there's a promo video for DLSS 4 but honestly that sort of thing can fuck straight off (I/we want to know performance in general)
cerulean talon
Auctually, that's about within what I'd expect. If you could perfectly pack a wafer (You can't), and had 100% success, a single chip would be in the 200-300$ range, you lose a ton of space to square pegs in round wafers though, so most of your edges drop, and depending on what the fail rate is, I'd expect a single chip to be 600-800-ish just in silicon costs for the chip, then a giant slab of gddr7, and you're getting up to a decent chunk of the 2k price.
cerulean talon
shrug Personally, I'd probally buy a 4090 for the next 3-6 months until the first waves of the 5090's come out and things settle down some. That card is going to find every issue with the 12 pin power connector possible and make it super obvious.
dire viper
true
sly walrus
dire viper
idk I am just going to buy a 5070
sly walrus
"it's never a good time to build a pc"
dire viper
like im not running 4k
sly walrus
1440p gang
cerulean talon
4k is life.
dire viper
I like 4k, just 1440p looks good enough for me
cerulean talon
Once you go 4k it's so hard to go back ;.;
dire viper
poverty is success
cerulean talon
When your PC is everything for how you make your living, it gets alot of love and care.
dire viper
True
Same reason why producers will spend hundreds of thousands on vinyls to get samples
dire viper
Mfs will buy 1 of 1 vinyls nobody has ever even heard
drowsy star
I am kinda shocked how reasonable the prices are
cerulean talon
Eh, doing very back of the napkin calculations, the 5090 at least is about in line with what I'd expect in terms of profit and build cost.
Getting them retail will be a pain for awhile, but I suspect the lower-end cards will be fairly available after an initial scalper spike.
sly elk
ha yep
the thing one has to keep in mind is nvidia/amd are targeting businesses first and always lol
everyone else can just get whatever is leftover at whatever price
cerulean talon
Did they announce a new A series GPU?
Or anything datacenter targeted?
I haven't found it yet if they did.
sly elk
i mean like
these go in desktops for ai professionals or whatever
people who would otherwise buy a quadro
cerulean talon
Oh yeah, 100%.
I'm just curious if there's any real pull on these dies towards a A100-style card again
dire viper
I wish I was a car salesmen still
Pay virtually no taxes if you work at a low volume dealer
You can spend all your money on cars for inventory and the state/feds are ok with just seeing that as inventory and not as personal tax
royal forge
@cerulean talon i wish to tell u of more amazing IT support guy answers i got
When the google sheets was lagging AF, the tech guy couldnt believe it cuz he had "just upgraded me to an ssd"
cerulean talon
I mean, clearly the issue is your spreadsheet was caching to disk. nods
royal forge
He couldnt believe an SSD didnt improve the loading speed of the website
And he wondered if he should upgrade the PC to W11
Which i mean
If he managed to, i'd be impressed
Oh oh
And our place is startin to use thumbprints for clocking in
For some reason, if you had registered at one particular machine, you can only clock in and out of that machine
The managers/admin, who forced this system on everyone, naturally, still use punch cards
It is very funny
cerulean talon
Ooooh, that's fun.
Fingerprint systems are always kinda wild, because the good ones store the fingerprints on the reader, not in a central DB.
xD
royal forge
Fingerprint systems are always kinda wild, because the good ones store the finge...
But problem is, not everyone works at the same spot all week
odd sand
that's the claim
No fucking way they're providing like a 70-100% uplift gen over gen for x70 cards, especially for $600 when that's basically what they were charging for a 60ti before wasn't it?
Ahh, here's the catch:
The lowest spec new RTX Blackwell GPU is capable of frame rates akin to the $1,599 RTX 4090 of the previous generation, though likely only through new DLSS 4 AI smarts.
So you get massive fps of compressed jpegs YAY...
sly elk
you'll take it and you'll like it
sly elk
i need to fill in myfitnesspal for today
sly walrus
No fucking way they're providing like a 70-100% uplift gen over gen for x70 card...
i never said they were right
no need to get so aggressive
odd sand
Sorry if you took it to mean I was being angry with you, I was directing that at their claim
odd sand
They're really stretching out the product lineup now, geezus.
Used to be about 15% perf diff between each tier. Now it's almost double between 5070 and 5080 and almost double again from 5080 to 5090...
12GB vram while boasting about 4090 fps levels when it's gonna run out of vram on 1440p above med settings /s
sly elk
that 3+1 DLSS makes the 4090 fps levels possible?
late pier
Yeah, but nobody know how the delay going to be
sly elk
whatever lol
dull garnet
they're advertising "Reflex 2" which will take care of that
late pier
they're advertising "Reflex 2" which will take care of that
How does reflex work anyway? I swear I turned that on and just don't see the difference 
Though tbh, using frame gen and having delay is fine. After all, you won't play ESports game with that setting on, frame gen is for single player game.
dull garnet
it reduces system latency, i've used it with cyberpunk and fortnite while enabling dlss and it works fine. for esports though yeah you probably don't want to use it as good as they claim it can be
late pier
Guess I'm just not good enough to notice 
dull garnet
depends how sensitive you are to latency i guess
hollow charm
This ssd is giving me grief
plug in new ssd, create my simple partition, format the drive
Reboot the pc
Bam black screen of death
It’s obviously the new ssd causing me problems
Unplug the ssd, pc boots normally…culprit found
The pc is probably trying to boot from the new ssd instead of my usual boot drive
Alright unplug the ssd, enter bios, boot from UEFI only
Replug the ssd….annnd black screen o death
Bother amazon customer service
bloke on the other end clearly has no idea what im talking bout
Ah
Crucial customer service is going to be hearing from me at the break of dawn
cerulean talon
When's it blackscreening? Wierd that the SSD would do that.
hollow charm
when i boot up the pc
i dont think its weird, the bios is probably trying to prioritize that fuckin ssd but there's no OS in there so tough shit bro
the problem doesnt seem unusual, its just that i cant figure out a solution without the bios
potent arrow
Where is the SSD in the boot order
hollow charm
bro, i dont know
cuz i cant get into the bios
lol
but i can only assume its feking #1
potent arrow
...thats really weird that it prevents bios
thats not it priotizing drive
bios happens before boot
hollow charm
nop
potent arrow
hollow charm
indeed
potent arrow
Hi cc <3
hollow charm
i dont have high hopes that crucial will tell me anything i dont akready know
cerulean talon
Only time I've had stuff like that happen is when I manage to crash a drive controller. xD
potent arrow
xD
potent arrow
or the psu is cooked but I doubht it
cerulean talon
Dumb question, if you yeet your current drive, but leave the new one in, does it do the same thing?
hollow charm
er...i dont want to resort to that cause my boot drive is some nvme thingymajig and its like screwed into the motherboard you see and it'd be so much effort..
cerulean talon
Also, hi smolcat. I'm trying to decide if I hate myself enough to write ADR's for the dayjob or not, and want that much suffering.
hollow charm
im getting it replaced and if it fucking happens asgain, that'd be.. upsetting
hollow charm
well probably not cause im using that sata cable...this very moment
my old drives are all a-okay
cerulean talon
Indeed, I'd need to write them all from scratch for the company, so it's probably a week's worth of documentation.
cerulean talon
I'll probally do it tbh, it's a butt-ton of work, but it's worth it I think.
potent arrow
:D
potent arrow
Im not certain of its use, ive just seen the term before. Is it just good for tracebility?
cerulean talon
I love meta ADR's.
It's designed to capture at the time of the ADR's development, why you decided to make a decision that effects a large part of the project. One of the easy ones is stuff like "We're going to decide to use a cloud vendor, and not aim for on-prem deployments" or the inverse.
Then you get into stuff like "We're going to use microservices, and this is why."
Etc.
potent arrow
oh neat
cerulean talon
So you get a bunch of meta stuff, before you get into things like specific languages, or decisions like "We're going to use a relational database, instead of a time series database"
Etc.
It's designed to capture the reason you made the decision, what downsides you saw, then my version extends that with the specific implementation decisions in a seperately tracked file, so as long as you don't change the "Y-Statement", you can keep updating the implementation, and use git to track why you made the change.
If you touch the Y-Statement, you get t go through the entire approval process again tho.
potent arrow
lmfao
cerulean talon
potent arrow
that sounds pretty damn useful
no more looking at something and go why this and is it effecting this
cerulean talon
Nygard's sort of the tech-standard ATM, and this is some of the structures for it.
It didn't work well for us, but it's a nice standard.
Soooo I wrote an ADR describing why nygard didn't work, and a new standard to use. xD
cerulean talon
The dayjob has enough stupidity that I really should ADR the important decisions moving forwards and get them documented.
Between that and our PM tooling, I think it'll have enough there that it can be documented well.
potent arrow
but also.dpcumentat8on is boring
cerulean talon
Yeah, but that's part of the job. xD
lost python
man, i cant even imagine how full of artifacts the "multi frame generation" will be
but i guess this is another generation that i will not touch nvidia, because i certainly can not afford these fucking prices and power requirements
hazy frost
Which part
hazy frost
Theyre cheaper than last years launch prices except the 5090
kindred brook
really as powerful as a 4090
hazy frost
really as powerful as a 4090
Probably not
sharp star
No
hazy frost
There should be a big fat asterisk that says with all the AI features on it barely matches a 4090 so long as u don’t need more vram as well
It’ll probably be more like a 4070ti or 4080
kindred brook
will the 5080 be more like the 4090 then
sharp star
No
hazy frost
will the 5080 be more like the 4090 then
Depends on what ur expecting
The fact it still has less vram makes it automatically worse for certain use cases
A used 4090 will probably be cheaper than a new 5080 when they launch anyway
Lots of people will be selling their 4090 for the new GPUs
wraith agate
I got a 4090, I will probably not replace it till another 6 years
inland mauve
I don't want to replace it, I need a forklift to remove it from my case
lost python
Twitter
lost python
hazy frost
DLSS looks fine above 1080p, sometimes better if the default AA sucks and DLSS improves it, but FG just ruins everything
Even if it didn’t look smeary with FG the input latency feels horrible
Best features from Nvidia are probably DLAA/DLSS in certain games and then RTX HDR bc windows HDR is a pretty low bar
mortal condor
hazy frost
PC gamers are stupid enough to buy a 5090 anyway
I’m tired of people complaining about the price of a gpu that no one needs for gaming
solid panther
Even if it didn’t look smeary with FG the input latency feels horrible
Which is where the new reflex version comes into play
Its supposed to be a noticeable improvement on version 1, reduces the latency issue
and so long as you use frame gen when you're already hitting above 60fps, it shouldn't be too bad
mortal condor
Cyberpunk really has become the new "But can it run Crysis maxed out" barometer for new gpus
hazy frost
Cyberpunk is one of the only valid reasons to buy Nvidia GPUs in the mid-upper range lmao
The game looks really good with ray tracing and without tho tbh it’s impressive
hazy frost
and so long as you use frame gen when you're already hitting above 60fps, it sho...
If you’re already hitting above 60fps idk why you’d turn it on for most games
Unless it’s absolutely perfect which it most likely won’t be just stick to DLSS without FG if ur already at 60
solid panther
Because thats what FG is for
Its not for hitting 60
Its for hitting like 100
120
200
If you're using FG to hit 60 then you're honestly doing it wrong at the moment, because its inserting 'fake' frames when you're already not dealing with smooth gameplay
So you need to make sure you're hitting 60 naturally before you even think about FG
kind rune
solid panther
FG is fantastic for hitting 100+
kind rune
If you're using FG to hit 60 then you're honestly doing it wrong at the moment, ...
frame gen doesnt work that badly at 50
and reflex 2 looks like it can help with these things 
hazy frost
If you're using FG to hit 60 then you're honestly doing it wrong at the moment, ...
U didn’t read what I just said
Bc that’s not what I said at all
It’s just pointless to turn FG on and open urself up to the downsides even if fewer with the latest version if ur going from like 60 to 80 realistically
solid panther
No I read what you said
You misunderstood what Im saying
Im saying the reason you'd turn it on is because you have a monitor that hits like
240hz
and you want to get as much out of it as possible
hazy frost
20fps extra for more latency and visual artefacts
solid panther
but your PC might only hit like
70fps in the game
so FG lets you pump that up to like 120
More
hazy frost
That’s stupid to do tho
solid panther
Not really no
hazy frost
If ur getting 70 the game will look fine for most games
And if it’s comp games where u want higher frames they run on toasters for the most part
solid panther
Sure but it can look even better at 120fps
Im not saying turn it on for every game
I probably wouldnt use it for like
hazy frost
Sure but it can look even better at 120fps
It’s not a worthy trade off to increase latency and visual artefacts tho
solid panther
a competitive fps
solid panther
But it's plenty fine for something like Witcher 3 or Indiana Jones
So long as you understand what you might be trading for it
Plus the input latency isnt remotely as bad in some circumstances
hazy frost
It’s just not a feature worth buying a gpu for still
solid panther
Oh I wouldnt say buy a GPU for it alone
hazy frost
Plus the input latency isnt remotely as bad in some circumstances
Isn’t as bad still bad
solid panther
For you
hazy frost
It will be noticeable even with claimed improvements
solid panther
lmao
solid panther
For you
Because if someone can handle it then like, who cares
Like I said, ID never use it in like an FPS
hazy frost
I think you’ll find very few people can
solid panther
cause I would feel it
But in something like Witcher 3, I've turned it on and barely feel it
hazy frost
If ur not noticing doubling or tripling the latency u experience something is wrong with ur eyes tbh
solid panther
Same with Indiana Jones
But these are all features to squeeze out more performance.
hazy frost
I’ve used the current version in multiple games and it’s probably the worst feature I’ve ever used
solid panther
The industry is struggling to keep upping the hardware
So they're moving to software solutions
AI essentially
DLSS is probably the most significant
But framegen is improving over time
Especially when paired with the reflex tech
hazy frost
Frame gen in another 1-2 revisions might be worth considering as usable
Otherwise anything that supports basic DLSS is fine
FSR on later versions is alright too but the AA is questionable
FSR 4 is generation locked anyway
solid panther
hazy frost
But it’s just more bad frame gen implementation
hazy frost
15ms is still actually incredibly high lmao
solid panther
Combine that with framegen and you're slowly making up for latency
It's almost half of what it used to be lmao
hazy frost
That doesn’t mean it’s not currently a big number
And that’s why I said in 1-2 more revisions it might be good
If it continues at that pace
solid panther
It's fine as it is for certain games
its all im saying
Otherwise nobody would ever use it
But they do
So clearly plenty of people can withstand the added latency
Its not like half of us didnt play fuckin
hazy frost
The only people I’ve seen use it are those getting <60fps which is just even worse than natively getting 30
solid panther
22fps PS3 games
People using it who get below 60 dont understand what it does
And thats on them
hazy frost
People using it at all don’t understand what it does
solid panther
If you use it below 60 you're gonna have a horrible experience
hazy frost
It’s horrible above 60 too lmao
solid panther
Nah its much better
hazy frost
Still horrible
solid panther
I dont care
hazy frost
Much better doesn’t equal good
solid panther
My point stands
hazy frost
What point
All you’ve said is u like it
It’s still ass
The trade offs for it aren’t good yet
solid panther
That if you use FG when you're not hitting 60, you're taking a bad experience and making it look very slightly smoother but it still feels like shit
If you have 60 naturally and use FG, you're taking a smooth experience and making it look a little smoother on top. It wont feel smoother cause the frames are 'fake'
But it still looks smoother
The trade offs are fine for certain games
Otherwise, again, nobody would ever use it
And the people who do use it to hit 60 dont understand it and just think its godawful
It's tech that'll improve in time, and you're right it's current state is technically it's worst, but that doesnt mean its never worth using. Just use it in the cases where it makes any kind of sense.
Aka games where you already get good framerate but want an even smoother image
hazy frost
Otherwise, again, nobody would ever use it
That’s not how u define whether something is good lol
Plenty of people make objectively bad choices
solid panther
I dont know why you're arguing lmao
Im not saying the tech is gold standard perfect
Im saying its fine and has its uses
Just be smart about it
nothing is incorrect in that statement
dull garnet
i used frame gen on cyberpunk and it literally looked no different
real edge
I have a 4080 and never use framegen because I personally do not see a use for it yet in the games I play
dire viper
lost python
its gonna catch fire
solid panther
Its gonna fuckin explode
spring raven
its gonna catch fire
that's the built in heating ability
odd sand
The industry is struggling to keep upping the hardware
Possibly. Or they figured they can charge more for fake FPS and pocket the difference instead of actually providing better raster, and developers can get away with dogshit optimization to also skim money off budgets.
sharp star
https://fixupx.com/charlieINTEL/status/1876655183071260945?t=S21WHERoUnlWwBBrUuH...
say goodbye to your reproductive organs
odd sand
So Hank left again? 
solid panther
Possibly. Or they figured they can charge more for fake FPS and pocket the diffe...
I agree in part. I do think software solutions are smarter because they're cheaper and can extend the lifespan of a card more than hardware can. But i would still prefer a mix of hardware and software improvements
odd sand
Sure, but we're already seeing them not using it to extend the life of cards, but to try to sell people on the fake fps. eg: Saying the 5070 provides the same fps as the 4090...
solid panther
I guess, but dlss is getting big improvements and so is reflex. FG might be fake frames but It does have a use.
And are least the 5070 and ti aren't super overpriced like last time.
I think the 70 is like 50 bucks cheaper than last time?
Not a massive change but still cheaper which is alright
lost python
So Hank left again? <:omegabruh:700947094239969301>
odd sand
card price doubles
pulls back 10% so now it's not "overpriced"
odd sand
I assume it still looked pretty lewd then even tho it didn't show the bits n bobs eh
odd sand
(bc I've posted character designs I liked from doujins on some discords but it was from normal scenes and cropped to the character you wouldn't know heh)
potent arrow
it was cropped.overwatch porn lol
dire viper
@cerulean talon how does a Dual Channel motherboard handle RAM when 4 sticks are installed?
dire viper
O
So it segments the first pair and second pair of sticks as their own dual channel set?
cerulean talon
Yeah.
dire viper
For DDR4 mobos
cerulean talon
It's why there's a specific install order.
Servers do the same thing.
Ice and my new gigabyte servers are hexa-channel.
dire viper
Ahhhhh
dire viper
Ice and my new gigabyte servers are hexa-channel.
Wack
cerulean talon
dire viper
So for DDR5, is the dual channel per stick so one channel is purely send and one channel is purely receive?
cerulean talon
Look at that block diagram and cry.
dire viper
What the hell is this
dire viper
That is wild
cerulean talon
Servers (And admittedly, most higher end consumer boards) now have delightful diagrams like that.
cerulean talon
That is wild
This is the block diagram for one of my favourite mobos on the market atm.
cerulean talon
Slimline PCIE breakout connectors.
The motherboard is a "deep mini-itx" but holds a full sized Epyc (Same size as a threadripper), has a single normal PCIex16, then exposes the rest of the 80 or so free PCIE lanes via slimline connectors.
It supports 16 sata hard-drives xD
dire viper
Ooooooooh
sly walrus
raid?
dire viper
Slimline is the interface for storage?
cerulean talon
You can however, due to the slim-lines, slap 9 NVMes, 16 Sata disks, and still have an expansion card with 2x10gbit native connections xD
dire viper
Wouldn’t server NVME have to have all the checks and balances on the storage
cerulean talon
ECC memory.
dire viper
Do they call that- yea
cerulean talon
And yes, that does use ECC.
dire viper
I wonder how fast the systems on some of these crazy super cars are now
dire viper
Like the Gordon Murray Automotive T.50
cerulean talon
Also, here, have a 15Tb SSD: https://store.supermicro.com/us_en/15tb-nvme-pcie4-hds-sun0-mzql15thblaa7.html
xD
dire viper
Like processing PCM data
Transmission, engine, every temperature, every pressure measurable, etc
cerulean talon
Oh, that's all FPGA's.
None of that's happening in anything you'd recognize as fast.
dire viper
Cause the GMA T.50 is a 12,000 RPM V12 monster
cerulean talon
They're probally running at 100-150 mhz.
dire viper
Fastest revving engine ever made iirc, under no load it reaches redline in under a second
So 800rpm to 12,000
cerulean talon
I mean, for any semi-modern FPGA that's literally standing still.
dire viper
Ah fair
The T.50 has is a fan car
So it sucks itself to the ground
Lots of wacky tech
cerulean talon
Car nerds. The only thing you need in life is more subarus. nods
dire viper
Well Tbf. GMA is the company owned by the guy who designed the McLaren F1
Oh and all of the most winning McLaren F1 cars
Mr Best Road Cars Ever Designed
When will Subaru make a gear driven cam system 😔
cerulean talon
There's a part of me that really wants to write my own ECU from scratch and go compete with haltech for the memes.
dire viper
cerulean talon
It's been a serious consideration for awhile as a project to learn FPGA development.
dire viper
Bespoke PCM’s have a market
Haltech does so well simply because of racing
They’re backing all the most winningest race teams
So everybody hopped on the train
Curse manufacturers for changing terminology of modules
Engine stuff is now PCM cause they integrate transmission control into engine control EXCEPT if it’s a dual clutch then it runs its own control module in the valve body
cerulean talon
It's mostly a project I'd find fun, it's nothing I'd ever seriously take commerical, but it appeals.
dire viper
Honestly it’s not hard to find a market
Completely custom PCM’s? Most people salivate over that
And they don’t wanna hire an engineer to do it
Car stuff generally is cool tho
They have suspension systems that raise ride height based on aerodynamic forces pushing the car down and it’s purely mechanical
Indy Car just got bullshit engineering
cerulean talon
Yeh, mostly I haven't found a good reason to dive deep into FPGA's, and the idea of writing my own control system for a car I build is very tempting.
dire viper
Full ECU and EFI for a go kart
Or golf cart
It’s cool that open source ECU software exists
I have a friend who bought a 350Z and rebuilt the whole thing from a bare chassis and is running a speeduino
cerulean talon
Pretty much, I sorta want to build a rail car and go all the way up.
sly elk
Also, here, have a 15Tb SSD: https://store.supermicro.com/us_en/15tb-nvme-pcie4-...
wonder when icehunter buys one
honestly it's cheaper than I expected
dire viper
https://youtu.be/wC8ujuSYxU8?si=3ULC95yCAbTztg56 @potent arrow
Japanese ppl just owning a Lancia 037
cold yacht
is it gonna be safely assumed the 4070s will get a price drop later in the year when the 5000 series drop ?
cold yacht
im not exactly needing an upgrade, im on a base 3070 rn, i just want more vram on nividia card
hazy frost
is it gonna be safely assumed the 4070s will get a price drop later in the year ...
It’ll take a while but eventually maybe
Nvidia cards don’t get as many good deals as last gen AMD cards if you’re buying new but plenty used still
I think Nvidia may start clearing out their inventory and stop producing them earlier than AMD does but not sure if that’s accurate
cold yacht
think the only 3000 series card you can get new is like 3060
but yeah, not exactly hounding for a new card right now its just eyeballing prices til a nice deal
hazy frost
The 4070s is already a pretty good deal if it gets any cheaper or even if it doesn’t I’d say buy one
The 5070 is probably going to be slightly better without considering AI gimmicks but never in stock and slightly more expensive
cold yacht
hoping for less than 400 usd
hollow charm
whilst crucial customer support didnt solve my problem, i did get an idea.... so there must be some sort of problem between the ssd and motherboard,,
what if i updated my bios or some shit
do i jsut needa buy a new motherboard
dire viper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Camel
Based Great War bi plane
Fiat CR.42 Falco was also awesome
Tbf the CR.42 was during the peak golden age of Fiat
Same era as the Beast of Turin
hollow charm
turns out i really was just one bios update from getting the ssd to work
solid panther
I feel like jumping to a 50 series card if I'm on a 4070ti is kind of pointless.
It'd probably make more sense to buy a 4080s
Lmao
Especially if I can find one for cheaper when the 50 series drops
paper tusk
I'm mixed between 5070 ti and non-ti from a 3060 ti (since I want this upgrade to last a long time but I'm ok with the 12gb if I can upgrade everything else faster)
[3060 ti specs for comparison]
eternal zinc
Me seeing all those 30s and 40s card starting to appear on fb marketplace
paper tusk
yeah great value for someone bargain hunting, but sucks if you're on the selling side
eternal zinc
Me thinking of those 4090 owners
paper tusk
I think I might get lucky if I get $250 for my card 😐 (asus 3060 ti)
microcenter probably 200 in store credit
odd sand
i have just been informed about this abomination
Belated response, but yeah it's crazy to see how far military tech came in only 20-25 years. Hell, there were some designs from the mid-late 1930s that were hilariously bad compared to stuff that was produced only 5-7 years later even.
eg: Germany and the US were still producing new biplane models into the early to mid 30s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_44_Stieglitz
Neat. Can really see where they got their idea for the B2 bomber from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_N-9M
10 years after that biplane you had:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262
And 10 years after that gave us the Buff:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress
hazy frost
It'd probably make more sense to buy a 4080s
5070ti having better memory bandwidth and 16gb is pretty good considering one of the biggest problems with all the 40 series cards except the 4090 is the bandwidth limiting performance especially in games with RT on
And those specs aren’t the end of where differences will be I’d expect the 5070ti to be a better deal than a 4080 when u can get one available
It would be best to buy a used 4090 when all the owners sell theirs for a 5090 really
pale dagger
And 10 years after that gave us the Buff:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_B...
Good old buff.
I find myself watching videos of old hot bulb and hit and miss engines plucking and planking along
lost python
hazy frost
In fairness if we’re putting it next to FSR 3 that’s a low bar and makes it look incredible, in a vacuum it’s still only ok imo
I think DLSS stands out in the fact it manages to make the AA effects better in most games and FSR has gone from making it worse to not making it worse now
dapper nymph
affordable mouses similar to the g502, what would they be
same price is fine
similiar
dapper nymph
i like it's scroll locking physically and dpi switch
hazy frost
affordable mouses similar to the g502, what would they be
Imo the razer basilisk is closest and also better
hazy frost
I’ve been between the g502 and basilisk models and chose to use the latter as my own mostly
dapper nymph
i'll try to catch deals for it
hazy frost
The side buttons aren’t as nice imo but everything else is better on the current razer ones
dapper nymph
does corsair have anything similar by chance?
hazy frost
Nothing as good as the g502 or basilisk
They’re basically the only worthwhile options that are that shape and roughly similar in weight on the heavier side
wraith agate
I agree on the 502 but if you already have one, might worth looking into fixing the side buttons
hazy frost
The razer one has a better sensor and nicer coating and the cable on the wired ones is a bit nicer which may matter to some, g502 is a bit lighter and the side buttons are nicer + more programmable inputs by 1 or 2 I think
dapper nymph
my m1/m2 has been failing and i somewhat lack a solder to replace the buttons
wraith agate
Pretty sure you can also reprogram the DPI buttons to something else
dapper nymph
the rest of it is fine, it's the m1/m2 that has been failing resulting in double clicks or accidental release
warranty's expired
wraith agate
Oh yeah... mine is slowly getting there as well
hazy frost
Pretty sure you can also reprogram the DPI buttons to something else
I think that’s true for both
wraith agate
No idea, haven't used Razer in ages
dapper nymph
im not sure if it's worth buying parts and a solder or get a new mouse
hazy frost
Probably just the mouse the g502 x or basilisk v3 will be like $40-50 on sale for one or the other at some point
wraith agate
Fair, I assume you got no repair shops nearby you'd trust with this
hazy frost
Repair shops might charge way too much in my experience
lost python
that reminds me that i have to replace my mouse soon.
couldnt find anything that is as good to use as my deathadder yet though
hazy frost
Razer still on top in the mouse market if u can afford their prices tbh
Or you have a very niche requirement like esports players
But then you just mod something
It’s all they’re good at tbh now lol
lost python
idk, i am kinda tired of razer, after my current "new" deathadder once again had issues with the mousewheel and within 2 years my thumb and ring&little finger have worn through the rubber side coating and are touching the bare plastic frame now.
the newest deathadder also got rid of the dpi buttons which i really want to have though
golden stream
Everyone really likes the latest one dpi button aside
I. Need. It
Bc I need 2 diff dpi on 2 diff devices
hazy frost
I don’t think I’ve touched the dpi button on my mouse on purpose in ages
Would prob be better to just stop it changing my dpi bc it annoys me more often than not
lost python
i very commonly switch around my dpi when gaming, so i dont wanna miss it anymore either
hazy frost
I just change my sensitivity in game so I don’t need to have 7 different mouse profiles
Off topic but UK tech stores continue to disappoint me I haven’t been in a single one where they have display models for anything I actually want to look at
ATP I’m going to have to order most stuff online and hope retailers aren’t assholes about returns
dapper nymph
question for aio, wanting to replace the coolant, how should i go about it.
just distilled water?
sharp star
I'm going to assume the AIO is a closed loop?
dapper nymph
it's a coolermaster 240
sharp star
ML240L?
dapper nymph
it should be a closed loop
looks similar enough, i could've went to the storage to find the box manual for it
sharp star
They're not intended to be user-serviceable, no way to flush or anything
But if you insist on cracking open the coldplate
Then distilled water will not be it
Manuals should specify what type of coolant to use, but because closed loop AIOs are not meant to be user-serviceable, they won't
I would just throw it out and replace it and save you the hassle of trying to self-service something you realistically can't.
dapper nymph
it's out of warranty and has survived for almost 5 years so
sharp star
If longevity is the goal, I would not use a closed-loop liquid cooler.
real edge
if u want longevity + set and forget
a good air cooler does the job
the chance might be 0.00001% or sth
but I do not want water inside my system anywhere
I do not want the additional risk
hazy frost
People who don’t have the highest end CPUs rly don’t ever need them but prebuilts have convinced people it’s normal atp lol
They’re only quieter under load anyway at idle the pump is louder than air coolers at low rpm
dull garnet
Chunk of aluminium ftw
hazy frost
There are now some Thermalright 360mm AIOs that can be better than air coolers if ur on certain platforms
They’re a lot better on Intel
But the ID cooling a720 is the new best air cooler and it’s hard to get one of those as well
wraith agate
I'm using air cooler for my i7-13700k and I haven't thermal throttled yet
hazy frost
I keep mine at like 40% fan speed on my 7700x and it’s fine bc it’s never doing all that much rn
neon shell
Does anyone how rebind the shortcut for File Explorer on windows 11? It always fucks me up while doing content. I'd be fine with also just deleting the shortcut
And I mean the hot keys for accessing it
sly elk
But if you insist on cracking open the coldplate
some do have plugs
i like water cooling enough that i'll probably water cool my gpu next time i upgrade it >> or at least get one of those goofy aio gpus
in my ideal world i'd have a case that let me exhaust 2 360 or 420mm radiators
that's why I like radiators! you can mount them on the side of the case and the hot air gets blown straight out
it may not be the best for dust, but if you did a build with 2 radiators where all of the fans are blowing out, you don't even need intake fans :3
but I can't think of many cases that would allow for 2 radiators in a very pleasant manner, maybe the o11? most cases have room for 1 intake and 1 exhaust
hazy frost
but I can't think of many cases that would allow for 2 radiators in a very pleas...
Any dual chamber and a lot of full size ATX cases do
Tbf a lot of mid ATX cases u can get 2 360mm ones in there now
The phanteks NV7/9, O11D, and NZXT H6 are popular rn
There’s also like the 1000D but that’s kind of a ridiculous size
sly elk
2 360s as exhausts though?
i mean vents are vents!
oh yea you could do dual exhaust on the nv7 for sure
it's like the lianli o11 but even better because that side vent goes straight out the side
sly elk
idk where they are but the fire in pasadena was really insane too
the malibu one wasn't quite as shocking because that's a kinda woodsy area
frozen bolt
Can I use laptop ram for a regular desktop PC?
lost python
nah
frozen bolt
damn, found such an amazing deal for one.
potent arrow
kyle from bitwit lost his house and stuff
that guy has insanely bad luck
poor Kyle
first his wife
like left him and he got mega depression
and basically quit
then now this
hazy frost
it's like the lianli o11 but even better because that side vent goes straight ou...
I think the NV5 is closer to the O11 since it’s smaller but they get bigger than the O11 XL with the NV7/9 too
velvet flint
Driver\WUDFRd failed to load
I couldn't really find the driver that's caused bsod a couple of times on my pc so does anyone have advice?
kind rune
new lossless scaling version is in
time for testing 
u can actually run 2x lossless from 30 fps to 60 without head flickering
dull garnet
i can't imagine having all my possessions destroyed in a fire, its probaby freeing in a way though
fervent field
got everything for my 9800X3D upgrade but.....
they even delivered the AM5 offset mount for my NH-D15, but not da dam mobo
ordered this instead, should be a better mobo actually
since X870 is just a rebranded B650E with mandatory USB4 support
dull garnet
that is a lot of chipsets
hazy frost
ordered this instead, should be a better mobo actually
Only downside is if anything goes wrong now u have to deal with asus not MSI
fervent field
Only downside is if anything goes wrong now u have to deal with asus not MSI
ya thats also correct 😭, currently got an mxi x470 board and its been great for me so far, but i kinda like the ASUS one more for just aesthetics and features rn
and i mean, idk if im ever getting the MSI one delivered so
hazy frost
There’s an MSI x670e cheaper than the asus one
fervent field
hazy frost
If u can still cancel
fervent field
im UK amazon so
fervent field
tomahawk is b650 no?
hazy frost
Or the asrock x670e is £250
hazy frost
tomahawk is b650 no?
There’s an x670
It’s just one of the names for boards they do
The asrock one is a pro rs x670e as well
They make a620s b650s and x670s with the names
fervent field
ehhhh i picked the one i liked the most outta the ones that had next day delivery
none of these will hav that anymore i dont think
hazy frost
Well hopefully nothing goes wrong anyway it should be fine
fervent field
i just need 4 m.2 slots mostly
hazy frost
I have an asus x670e as well bc it was on sale and I have luckily not had to deal with asus yet
I’m steering clear of them for most stuff now
It’s a shame they make the best woled monitor rn
fervent field
it is wat it is 😭
hazy frost
But I’m not spending £700 and getting no warranty
fervent field
o dam 240hz?
hazy frost
QD OLED is cool for the colours but I sit by a window so it would be purple and very reflective
Don’t wanna see my ugly ass face whenever it’s dark scenes
hazy frost
o dam 240hz?
Yeah 1440p 240hz one
fervent field
ya i have blinds closed 99% of time so its ok for me
hazy frost
It’s the first gen woled panel but the brightest of those
I almost got the 271qpx which is the new QD OLED panel but it’s just so bright lmao
I need curtains
fervent field
i managed to get this one for like £550ish back when they were still going for like £799, was dell outlet thing
hazy frost
Oh yeah
fervent field
same warranty as normal display
fervent field
ya actually got some discount codes on it now
hazy frost
The AOC one is just crazy value for <£400 now
fervent field
when i was looking earlier last year it was excluded from every discount code lol
hazy frost
Lmao
I almost bought the Alienware one tbh used
But I waited a year and it paid off ig
hazy frost
I wanted to see if LG announced any new mid range stuff for this year but nah
I did want the AW ones bc dell is just nice to deal with
fervent field
but ya im dum for upgrading monitor to 360hz cuz i knew it'd push me to get new cpu quicker than i'd liked but
hazy frost
Lmao
fervent field
i have 5800X (non 3d) so
hazy frost
I didn’t go for 360hz bc it was double the price which is wild
I only rly play league as comp games so
fervent field
hazy frost
The game isn’t stable above 240 anyway
fervent field
i play cs and valorant mainly rn so its rly good
hazy frost
Yeah those u can actually run at 360 lmao
fervent field
i can hit 360fps most of the time in valo rn, but can't in cs
hazy frost
CS2 is actually semi demanding now
fervent field
😭
hazy frost
I’m looking at used 4090s soon lol
fervent field
and if i sell my current 3080 for like £400, shouldn't be too bad
hazy frost
Hoping it’s cheaper than a 5080
fervent field
eh, 5080 will be like 15% slower than a 4090 i think
hazy frost
My 4070ti I might get like £550 for I think
hazy frost
eh, 5080 will be like 15% slower than a 4090 i think
Yeah but used one should be a bit less
And a lot of people probably buying a 5090
fervent field
ya but bear in mind the VRAM will make it more attractive for people picking them up for AI shi
hazy frost
Probably
fervent field
so might inflate the cost over pure raster value
hazy frost
Trying to get a 5080 at MSRP will suck anyway
fervent field
i did it for the 3080, so i'll do it agane this time!!!
hazy frost
For a while atl
fervent field
i got my 3080FE during peak of crypto shit in 2020
hazy frost
My 4070ti is fine realistically
fervent field
could have flipped it for 2x what I paid for it but
hazy frost
I got it when they came out bc it was cheaper than a 7900xt
fervent field
instead i just sold my 1070ti for 75% of the price i paid for it new so that was enuff scalping for me
hazy frost
That’s good
fervent field
ya nvidia good choice anyway, the software features are too peak
hazy frost
DLSS and DLAA are cool, Idc about 40 series frame gen
fervent field
and you always want to have the most popular brand of hardware, cuz then it's the priority for software support
hazy frost
Path tracing is also cool but not in most games
Ray reconstruction I forget about a lot but that’s actually good tbf
hazy frost
The 9070xt also looks pretty impressive by price tho so I could potentially get that
fervent field
hazy frost
I just get like 100+ in every game besides cyberpunk anyway
fervent field
ya im just schizo about frames so i want to get everything as close to 240fps as possible
and 360hz in competitive titles
hazy frost
I get 50-70 in cyberpunk with path tracing on or 80+ with ray tracing on ultra with just DLSS and not frame gen
fervent field
ya i barely get 60fps currently with dlss balanced and medium RT
hazy frost
Idk what I get in FFXIV but it’s upsetting how low it is sometimes lmao
fervent field
its all CPU bottleneck lol
hazy frost
It might be more worth to get a 7800x3d tho for that
fervent field
yeah, apparently 9800X3D is still even significantly better
hazy frost
I have an OC on memory specifically for cyberpunk tho bc the memory bandwidth is so ass on the 40 series cards
hazy frost
I went from 30 to 50 fps with it
fervent field
hazy frost
ya hopefully GDDR7 should be better in that case for the 50 series
They’ve got a greater bus width as well
I went 5 years with a 1070 and I’m 2 years in and already wanting to upgrade on this one lmao
fervent field
😭
ya 40 series was definitely a skip generation
as was 20 series
50 series is looking like a skip too but
idgaf i want a new GPU
hazy frost
ya 40 series was definitely a skip generation
It was an unfortunate time for me to need an upgrade
Couldn’t get a 3090ti tho
fervent field
i dont undastand how so many ppl were picking up 4090s lol
hazy frost
I would’ve got one if I wasn’t upgrading an entire pc at once
fervent field
like GPU perf is cool and all but tbh i think CPU is better to max out on
since if you cant run a game well because of CPU, you're fucked
if you're GPU bound, you can always turn down settings or resolution
hazy frost
Pretty much any of the am5 CPUs are fine for gaming if it’s not 360fps in comp games
My 7700x will last forever I believe
fervent field
ya, the 7700X is just a 7800X3D without 3D cache anyway
hazy frost
9800x3d is cool bc u can OC it
fervent field
ye, i dont rly have PSU headroom for that rn tho i dont think
trying to keep my 750W psu
so like 120W for CPU, 350W for GPU
dont rly wanna push it much past that
hazy frost
That’s another 250w of headroom
hazy frost
And tbf in gaming the 9800x3d is like 60w
fervent field
ya
hazy frost
You’d be good to do that
fervent field
i'll have a look, i do undervolt my GPU too, so it runs closer to like 280W full load
320ish sometimes
its just i had problems with pc just randomly shutting off before so
and i run literally like 4 internal HDDs and 4 NVME m.2s
and 5 fans, 3 of them being noctua industrial fans for the intake lol
tho i do have them config'ed with fancontrol software to only turn on when my CPU temp is higher than like 65C
cuz they loud af and the guy i got them off 2ndhand bought 2 DC and 1 PWM for some reason
so the minimum RPM is kinda scuffed having to run them all as DC
hazy frost
Rip
I have not so quiet fans bc they’re still RGB
I almost bought t30s instead which may have been a better idea
fervent field
ah my pc is under desk and i rather pay the premium for performance over aesthetic most of the time
i still want my shit to look clean, but i dont care for RGB its distracting 😭
literally i tape over every LED on the devices that r on my desk
hazy frost
Mines under my desk but can still see it easily
I like RGB on stuff so I can locate it when I’m sat in the dark lmao
fervent field
my old setup, https://x.com/ipsusu/status/1419692012882759682
Twitter
and this my latest shi https://x.com/ipsusu/status/1861087145655427255
Twitter
fervent field
tho my little owl wax diffuser on the left i turn him around so the light is on the wall vs towards me
my room is tiny so i dont rly have space for anythin else
(literally a wall directly to the left of me, and my bed directly to the right, which is against a wall)
hazy frost
It looks good anyway
fervent field
ty!
hazy frost
Mine atm
hazy frost
The problem is working out where to put drawing tablet and not use too much space tbh
Still haven’t worked it out
hazy frost
what mouse is that?
Razer basilisk v3
Still my favourite out of everything reasonably priced
fervent field
Still haven’t worked it out
can you mount it on a monitor arm or something? then just swivel / fold it out of the way when not using
hazy frost
I considered but I want it on the right of me so I can move it over easily since I’m right handed
But I’m about to also put second monitor there tmrw when new one comes
So it’ll be a bit awkward
fervent field
Still my favourite out of everything reasonably priced
g305 wireless is nice
hazy frost
G305 is cool but not my ideal shape
fervent field
hazy frost
I wish I liked that style I’d have more options
fervent field
and this my latest shi https://x.com/ipsusu/status/1861087145655427255
u dont need to be peripheral schizo like me
tbh there are alot of cheap chinese mice that r really good
hazy frost
Yeah they all just feel weird in my hand
Using the basilisk or g502 for 6 years or whatever
modest moss
my old setup, https://x.com/ipsusu/status/1419692012882759682
I went with this instead, that sweet sweet mist
fervent field
I went with this instead, that sweet sweet mist
this was a few years ago, i've got a full on air con unit now
perks of finally being employed lol
modest moss
added bonus of spraying the kids when they're not expecting it 
hazy frost
this was a few years ago, i've got a full on air con unit now
I’m jealous
I don’t even have a fan now lol
fervent field
I don’t even have a fan now lol
downsides of tiny room is very very hot with big pc in it
hazy frost
Yeah
fervent field
and theres no breeze thru my window
hazy frost
Mine gets hot using it for long periods good in winter bad in summer
fervent field
was like consistently 30C in my room this summer lol
even when its was 26ish outside
but winter yeah it doesnt really drop below 20C in here
i have my radiator turned off on the pipes lol
fervent field
Yeah they all just feel weird in my hand
this one is nice, but has gone up in price cuz no more sales
and this is the 4k polling one, the regular 1k one is cheaper
ergo shape
hazy frost
My ideal one is just the wireless of what I have tbh
fervent field
ya prob would be just the g503 wireless then
hazy frost
but winter yeah it doesnt really drop below 20C in here
It’s usually 12-15 if heating isn’t on in here until pc comes on
fervent field
oh, or the basilisk hyperpeed lol
hazy frost
oh, or the basilisk hyperpeed lol
There’s the v3 pro as well but it’s
Pricy
Hyperspeed still used batteries iirc
hazy frost
I’d guess more people buy the viper and death adder so there’s more being sold used
They’re more popular
fervent field
its pretty good, i dont like the input lag but
makes some stuff more playable
its kinda fun to use on esports streams
turns 60fps stuff into 240fps
ish
oh dam the new model is good
much less weirdness on the framegen
kind rune
and this my latest shi https://x.com/ipsusu/status/1861087145655427255
you downgraded 
wait a second did u make those reshade presets
solid panther
Wireless mouse was an upgrade for me. I stuck with wired for so long lmao
sharp star
If Logitech made a G600 successor that's both wired and wireless I'd jump all over it
Sadly I gotta wait for trips to Japan to get replacements
odd sand
I don't even notice the wire, and the modern cords are also like half or a third the weight of old rubber cabled ones or w/e so...?
solid panther
The cord can get in the way sometimes which bugs me
And i like the lighter feel since my wrists have started hurting
odd sand
To each their own I guess. I have a Deathadder and I don't even notice the cord
solid panther
Honestly the bigger upgrade is tossing my current chair and getting an office chair
I need better back support
dull garnet
i was thinking of getting a g pro wireless when my viper 8k dies, i don't really see an issue using a wired mouse tho
hazy frost
To each their own I guess. I have a Deathadder and I don't even notice the cord
I notice mine when it gets stuck on the edge of my desk or smth sometimes but I could just smooth the edge there to fix it
It does add some perceived weight to it sometimes
sly elk
Random thought but
I’m in love with my k65 plus keyboard
:] it’s so pretty lol
Gimme more translucent peripherals pls
The one thing they let me down on is the included usb cable sucks
Irs a plain white cable that looks kinda like the ones I had with generic crap from amazon
It should have been transparent
sharp star
I still have the one I used with my old printer from the late 2000s
dull garnet
I remember grabbing one of these from the local e-waste place, so much more interesting to look at than plain black
dire viper
Container
sly elk
Yay
glossy ravine
I'm trying to enable XMP but. My Bios isn't making it easy, if it even will allow it
hazy frost
What’s the difficulty
hazy frost
Interesting
U can look up the ram u have and see if it has XMP
U could also do it manually xmp is only a preset profile for OC
hazy frost
Idk where the thing for manual OC is on that bios
Should be able to just do that
It’s just 1.35v 3200mhz
paper tusk
should be in advanced if that's a msi bios
on my system I set it to 3600 and let it do whatever else it wants
dull garnet
easily checked in cpu-z
sly elk
should be in advanced if that's a msi bios
that's what i was thinking
but xmp is just a canned overclocking profile, you can do it manually without an xmp profile
solid panther
Neat. WoW gives people a warning about needing to update their bios if they're on a 13th or 14th gen intel
Honestly windows should be giving that warning to people
odd sand
You got a keyboard that uses a USB-A to B cable? Wild.
sly elk
You got a keyboard that uses a USB-A to B cable? Wild.
rofl
no it was usb-a to c, but i was disappointed that it was a boring white cable
inland mauve
bluesky isn't loading anymore for me
kind rune
nice curve
royal forge
anyone familiar with the better discord site?
solid dirge
Updating my bios pretty much destroyed my realtek drivers and now I can't reinstall them. At all. They just DON'T appear in the device manager.
awesome. Now I'm stuck using my monitor's 3.5mm jack instead.
I'm pissed.
What's pissing me off more is apparently the audio shit is still detected in the bios because I can still select the front jack audio type. Not the rear one though. NOT LIKE EITHER OF 'EM DO ANYTHING.
But hey supposedly the 14th gen CPU over-volting problem isn't happening anymore, not like it was bothering me in the first fucking place
odd sand
Can't you flash an older version of the bios onto it?
I guess that's one of the reasons I like Gigabyte's dual bios/EZbios where you can flash from a USB stick no matter what
solid dirge
I tried going from v11 to 10 to 7 to 2 in bios flashing. No dice.
I don't know what the hell the microcode did to the bios but it's just NOT doin it
odd sand
I assume you've tried googling the issue?
solid dirge
For five hours in hundreds of different word combinations.
odd sand
I would have said you can usually get new drivers directly on realtek's site, but if it doesn't detect under device manager at all, I dunno if there's anything you can do then
Usually it would at least show up as an unknown device
solid dirge
Yeah it's just gone
Even better, trying to install legacy realtek drivers fucking bluescreens
odd sand
tbf if it wasn't an issue for you then why did you bother updating the bios?
paper tusk
try the latest WU drivers (for realtek bus based audio. if it's usb based like alc4080 there's a different driver) https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/driver/drvs/2025/01/889fa6fc-f246-4a98-bc31-c70b33f2842b_405ef98b3a4e18059f14f4857678c768ec5dbb16.cab
potent arrow
@solid dirge drop your motherboard model # so I can look at it
solid dirge
<@114990926920679428> drop your motherboard model # so I can look at it
ASrock z790 riptide wifi
solid dirge
tbf if it wasn't an issue for you then why did you bother updating the bios?
game wouldn't shut up about it. Not even kidding. Pop up every single time I loaded it. That and it typically is a no harm done thing anyways.
It's a bit complicated but the basic reasoning is intel's microcode to handle the 14th gen processors was faulty and was killing your CPU way more rapidly than it should have, making systems unstable. The bios update was supposed to fix that.
Questioning if there's a way to just force windows to use the drivers, flat out.. if realtek HD isn't even popping up in device manager, I'm relatively certain it's not even loading the driver at all.
dull garnet
its definitely not disabled by default in your uefi?
solid dirge
Force enabled.
The fact that onboard audio is even listed in the UEFI is sort of telling me it sees the onboard audio?? I guess??
It's just literally NOT THERE in device manager
dull garnet
https://forum.asrock.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=52231 looks like you're not the only one
solid dirge
Yeah, hit that point yesterday, which is about when I started downgrading the bios
Didn't change jack though
potent arrow
It's a bit complicated but the basic reasoning is intel's microcode to handle th...
oh it's that wow pop up, it's not complicated everyone here is aware of that Intel issue
solid dirge
oh it's that wow pop up, it's not complicated everyone here is aware of that Int...
Well it's definitely caused other issues.
Also it's not VMD.
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Intel issue has definitely been plaguing a lot of people, wonder why this killed audio tho
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...how did you mess up your windows boot device
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Reset UEFI to default settings.
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uhhhh...is the boot order still set to your windows c drive?
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well you just reset UEFI
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Yeah, but I didn't have an alt boot device in the first place
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I'm just saying just check if it's pointed at a random drive or something, it could be pointed at another drive or nothing at all
usually the case
Just open UEFI and check, it's not that big of a deal lmao.
Also is your windows drive installed on NVME?
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Yeah I know, I'm just.. Rapidly hitting my limit here. I checked. There's only the one boot device and WBM. Loading in CSM doesn't do anything either.
... C CANNOT BE FOUND???
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Mind taking a photo of that screen listing the drives? I'm clearly missing something
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.....oh god you are using windows restore point
I did not know that actually worked properly
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I'm not touching shit at this point because scorched earth is.. A thing I try not to do
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Wait why are you restoring windows, didn't you update UEFI?
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you can get back into UEFI without system restore
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CSM disabled
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hmmfp
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CSM enabled (different monitor, don't ask)
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I did not know that actually worked properly <:haha:240841245239410688>
i used it last time i upgraded my lone nvme, worked pretty well which was a surprise to me too
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Those also exist in BBS but I'm not savvy enough to know what that is.
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no
don't assume when it comes to tech lol
you just reset UEFI so it's whatever initialized first probably
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Trying the m.2 then
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disable all but boot 1
and change boot 1 to your m.2
restart
if it doesn't work, cycle to the next one
just enable boot 1
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Nada
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tried them all?