taking notes here: the toyota v6, honda v6, ford v6, gm v6.. hyundai v6 lol
#technology-discussion
sly elk
dire viper
Which is wild
sly elk
from what i'm gathering atm pentastars are ok-ish but pentastar upgrades sometimes aren't
dire viper
But also the VQ has been around 25 years now?
sly elk
the problem with the VQ is it puts out pentastar power but requires 91 gas
or maybe it was 89, i forgot
it doesn't like cheap gas though
sly elk
more related to how they designed it?
dire viper
So if engine runs very cold, you can make more power
sly elk
which kinda makes sense because it's a real old design
from before they started jacking the temps up to make them have cleaner emissions
dire viper
It’s why V8’s immediately kick the bucket when something goes really wrong
dire viper
Cause they’re designed for shitty gas so when they bang off the limiter after being driven super hard they sometimes like to pre det
dire viper
Not really
It’s that it was bolted to an older CVT
That required regular maintenance
Which a normal slush box or manual also needs regular maintenance but don’t tell that to normal consumers
God forbid they realize they’re transmissions fucked
This is why transmission recalls are so crazy in the last few years
sly elk
they need to knock it off with the 'lifetime fill' crap
dire viper
The reason they do that is cause most ppl only have a new car for like 75k miles or something
And if you don’t abuse it the fluid should be fine that long, especially with how much is in newer cars
But yearg
There’s not a single lifetime fill manual transmission, why would a slush box be the same lmao
It’s got like 10 times the moving parts
And when a slush box fails it does so violently usually
sly elk
idk the lube shop here does transmission fluid changes pretty cheap
dire viper
It’s why you see those videos of Hondas needing new transmissions after 35k miles, 35k super hard miles in one year
sly elk
they're not impeccable fluid changes, mind you
they just drop the pan and then replace whatever they drained out
dire viper
I mean it’s a transmission fluid change
That shits easy
Swap filter if needed, fill up til it starts barely dripping out
sly elk
but that's good enough
sly elk
i figure changing the fluid is good nuff
at some point i'll stop by with my jeep and get all its stuff changed lol
kind rune
honest panther
what's a good project to learn c+?
paper tusk
from what i'm gathering atm pentastars are ok-ish but pentastar upgrades sometim...
the biggies with pentastars are oil/cooler separator failure (don't be a monkey when tightening the oil filter cap), and oil pump related issues (in common with hemi not delivering enough pressure at idle to cams)
late basalt
@odd sand camera question for you. For astrophotography, what’s one of the cheapest cameras you’d recommend? I know dlsr is the go-to for it, but spending 400-800 on it is…..not happening any time soon
sly elk
oh wow X_X
sly elk
krysenth maybe you can get an old micro 4/3 or aps-c camera but that's probably about it
dire viper
the biggies with pentastars are oil/cooler separator failure (don't be a monkey ...
Hemi is the best :)
Until it’s not
Me when the 6.0 LS2 exists and it’s just better
sly elk
lol
sly elk
only if it doesn't sound like the "chevy truck engine"
which is an LT of some sort right?
dire viper
Uh
sly elk
the one that practically every tahoe/silverado had in the 2000s?
dire viper
It’s very complicated
Ok so
The LT naming scheme is like
70 years old
And every two or three decades they just rename everything
So the LT’s from the 90’s are not related at all to the LT’s that are used now
sly elk
granted, I think the hemi sounded better in the first run of like 2005-2010 cars not the current stuff
the current stuff annoys me
dire viper
It’s cause the ports I think
sly elk
yea they just put louder exhaust on them
dire viper
It’s why the LS1 doesn’t sound very good
sly elk
because that's what sells
dire viper
It’s port design is stinky
LS2 and 3 sound a lot better
Better exhaust scavenging and port design
So you get more snarls and cracks
sly elk
funny enough
jk->jl I think the exhaust in the jl sounds a lot better
both sound like total ass with aftermarket exhaust though
sly elk
So you get more snarls and cracks
and you already know how I feel about snap crackle pop
dire viper
It sounds good on the LS
Because the LS is super rumbly
It’s like.
You get that noise from actual power
sly elk
as long as it's not jaguar f type style
"was that gunshots or some douchebag in a jag?"
"I wanna stick their testicles in a blender"
dire viper
Because the injection timing overhang causes run off in the exhaust
So the fuel is igniting in the hot exhaust
dire viper
Lmao
It’s funny because the Jag is genuinely good
F-Type is a fantastic car
I will be buying one when I can
dire viper
I want you to go test drive a convertible V8 car that’s obnoxiously loud
And then you’ll understand
It’s just like
An experience
Aston Martin does it brilliantly
Insanely loud turbo V8 in a convertible
You just start giggling
sly elk
convertible is the key here
not coupe with a ton of sound deadening so only the peons hear your snap crackel pop
dire viper
Well
Older coupes it’s not an issue
The new 911T they unveiled has less sound deadening than any of the other 911’s rn other than the S/T
Brilliant move from Porsche actually
While the S/T is sold out and started at like 300k, you can buy this base 911 with all the sport packs on it already for 130k and it’s manual only and has the same noise insulation removal as the S/T
sly elk
weight reduction!
dire viper
Which is funny
Cause the 911T name harkens back to the early 70’s trim level T
911T was a basic no frills 911
dire viper
911S was the one with more hp but more luxury stuff so more weight
So a 911S/T back in the 70’s was a 911S motor in a T body
dire viper
-gets out a taycan *turbo S*-
*Turbo GT
smh
:)
I actually saw an original 70’s S/T
They only made like 14 of them?
Was basically a cheating car lmao
sly elk
cheating cars are the best
dire viper
They sold privateers a 911T that was OPTIONED with an S engine
So because it had an S engine they could put in the race catalogue parts
Titanium connecting rods, better cams, different crank
So it weighed like 1800lbs without driver but had more more power
While a 911S weighed 2100 with less power
sly elk
less than a tesla battery
dire viper
Lmao
How many E39 M5’s does this man need
I think he’s had 3 now
He has his daily one, he had a parts one, and this one’s been sitting for like a year since he bought it
dire viper
When you hear the BMW problem chime but it’s just the thermometer telling you it’s below freezing
odd sand
<@140562343892484096> camera question for you. For astrophotography, what’s one ...
Spend $5-10 on a solar filter and tape it to the front of your iphone/galaxy phone /s
You aren't going to do better than a smartphone camera if you can't afford a dslr.
You could probably jerryrig a $50-100 spotting scope+tripod to have a phone holder if you want better magnification
sly elk
you can get phone cases that have sorta standard filter attachment rings
dire viper
Yea
But the sensors are different still
Afaik there is a pretty big tuning and calibration difference in the sensors?
sly elk
this will further complicate things but i also wouldn't use a phone made in the last 5 years for that kinda photography
dire viper
But I’m not a camera nerd
sly elk
unless that phone gave you a ton of control over the pictures the camera takes
dire viper
I just know my Sony Rebel takes significantly better pictures than my iPhone
sly elk
sony rebel?
sly elk
thta's a canon
dire viper
Canon EOS
yub
I got it for 50 bucks on eBay
With 10 dollar shipping
Lmao
From Alaska
sly elk
honestly something like that
and yea for dark pictures the sensor size is the big thing
and often lens compatibility
dire viper
The transition from shadow to light is great on it
sly elk
i imagine for astrophotography there's a zillion options for lenses and adapters for canons
sly elk
friend of mine from work is doing that with a nikon i think
dire viper
i imagine for astrophotography there's a zillion options for lenses and adapters...
900 dollar lenses that come with an in built cooler to reduce that wavering effect from the heat on the sensor
Whatever you call that
It has a special name
sly elk
yeeeup
otherwise, phone holder + tripod + whatever good software to get a picture that isn't goofed up by noise reduction or AI or whatever bs
https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moon-photos-ai-galaxy-s21-s23-ultra
https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-galaxy-cameras-combine-super-resolution-technologies-with-ai-to-produce-high-quality-images-of-the-moon/
sharp star
https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moon-photos-ai-galaxy-s...
The moon landing was faked! /s
wraith agate
I definitely saw AI generated images that tries to prove the landing was fake
late basalt
this will further complicate things but i also wouldn't use a phone made in the ...
Off my iPhone with a 30s exposure
So shinon’s idea isn’t THAT far off tbh. Where I live a light pollution filter would probably get decent enough results
Of Orion here too
sly elk
Ooo lc 500 at Taco Bell lol
I don’t see those often surprisingly
Heh didn’t expect that, couple in their 60s and it’s the lady’s car. She got cool taste 🙂
dire viper
Of Orion here too
That’s not so bad
Really, if you want really good pictures, the more pixels the better obviously
You can get great cameras for cheap used tho
eBay is not a bad place
Some cameras, like the Rebel T5, are 20 years old and haven’t changed much outside of UX stuff
Updated sensors yes but they’re budget down to the bones
late basalt
That’s not so bad
Some of the more interesting ones I’ve had was when there was some cloud cover going by.
I’ll definitely look at phone filters first, since those look like they’d be an order of magnitude cheaper to try out
hazy frost
I need to get a tripod to try this
I wish Apple would just let u change the exposure urself but u have to have it perfectly still on night mode for it to go to the max range lmao
One of my few frustrations
hazy frost
Night mode gives u longer exposure but it’s auto only still afaik
And to get the longest one the phone needs to stay basically perfectly still to adjust itself
It can do it but u can’t set it like that urself which does annoy me
That being said there’s very few times I’m actually trying to use 30s on my phone lmao
They should have it as a feature but not rly the biggest problem for 99% of the time
sly elk
hmm interesting
my samsung phone has a=n 'expert raw' camera app lol
i shall mess with this
hazy frost
Idc what Samsung can do until they fix the normal photo taking like 500000 seconds to process so u miss every quick moment u try and take a shot of
Lmao
People have complained about it for so long and they’ll never do anything about it
I think Google have some decent controls on the current pixels but not as good as Sony still which sucks
dire viper
i didn't realize _light pollution filters_ were a thing
You can’t even see the Milky Way proper in LA
You can only see it a few nights of the year in salt lake
dire viper
But if I go an hour away I can see them
sly elk
You can’t even see the Milky Way proper in LA
it's true! but that's true in any big city or even a lot of suburban areas
dire viper
I feel like even in suburban areas it’s not as bad
But also more cities need light pollution laws
sly elk
the first time i ever really saw the night sky that I can remember was when I was in davis lol
dire viper
Lots of European cities have em
sly elk
small town of like 60k people and it's like 15mi in any direction from the next town
so like
very little light pollution compared to what I was used to and the night sky was awesome
dire viper
It’s why Europe doesn’t look like the US at night from satellite images
cerulean talon
Gotta rock that Luxor grade light pollution we had in Vegas
sly elk
lol
inland mauve
dire viper
also who was it here that was building subaru's before they bought a tesla
E85 and all
cerulean talon
I didn’t buy a Tesla, so couldn’t be me, did get an ev though after I sold my wrx
cerulean talon
I did e85 the wrx tho xD
cerulean talon
Yeah
dire viper
new car tuning drop
cerulean talon
I’m considering getting one to go w/ my solterra
dire viper
the stock M54 engine in old 3 series and 5 series BMW's can take 400hp reliability stock
with a supercharger
cerulean talon
Yeah, but I like how the ej sounds
cerulean talon
Not as death as owning an eurotrash car
cerulean talon
So will an sti when I upgrade it enough and rip out the entire interior
dire viper
the Bugeye is peak
cerulean talon
Roomie suggested I try and find an Impreza rs
We’ll see what I find eventually, it’ll be a year or so before I seriously build up my shop and somewhere to work on cars
dire viper
when did they stick on the STi badging anyways
or wait
Impreza WRX STi
thats why im thinking wrong
dire viper
We’ll see what I find eventually, it’ll be a year or so before I seriously build...
fair
idk I grew to love cars in a Porsche shop
so I believe in flat six supremacy
cerulean talon
Eurotrash
dire viper
mostly cause its a true boxer and not a 180 degree V
not even ferrari did true boxers
the 12 cylinder flats were just V's
hold on my graphics driver is dying
I think im typing right now buat i cant tell cause discord wont update
cerulean talon
fair
The permitting and everything else I want/need for my shop is just gonna take awhile xD. Gonna be nice
dire viper
ok now it works
wtf
both my monitors went off
and then turned on
but didnt update
then refreshed
U need permitting wth
for like what
actually changing the building?
or are you going full unhinged and getting lifts and need moar concrete
cerulean talon
Full slab pours, it’s a new building
dire viper
a
cerulean talon
And yeah, of course I’m putting in lifts
dire viper
there are some lifts that are really awesome
that a lot of ppl use
lemme see if I can find them again
also not crazy expensive and also globally available
cerulean talon
We’ve got some quick jacks atm, but I’d like a full rotary
dire viper
its funny but I very rarely see them in actual shops
cerulean talon
I did when I worked in one as a teen
dire viper
because some lift companies use SnapOn as a distributor and they give you credit towards tools if you buy lifts
its really weird
cerulean talon
Shocking
dire viper
I say its weird because you get kinda fucked
they're considerably more through snap on and the credit isnt good enough to offset it
cerulean talon
I mean, yeah, it’s trashon
dire viper
hey
snap on makes one thing really good
and thats the super small torque wrenches lmao
you really appreciate it after torqueing brake calipers for 12 hours in a day
but also the harbor freight one works just as good :)
I say as I only buy harbor freight
cerulean talon
I’m a wera type myself
dire viper
Wera is good
ive never heard anything bad about them
I need to save money to get a Bilstein vendor license 😔
we dont have a local suspension supplier and thats a pretty damn good niche
especially cause they do free shipping if you have a license
cerulean talon
I do like my ever growing wera collection, and that’s a nice touch on the shipping
dire viper
most companies dont give free shipping even as an affiliate
Pelican Parts, ECS, FCP Euro
u gotta pay for shipping
even on crazy orders, at the Porsche shop I would do like 5-6k orders for p much every suspension related bearing and bushing for a 65-89 911 and a 70-76 914
cause we'd go through like 100 wheel bearings a week, just for the front on 911's...
oh another thing thats cool and absolutely pointless to have is an aqua blaster
media blaster but media is in water
no dust so its so awesome 😩
cerulean talon
Sounds like a weak waterjet
dire viper
yea
cerulean talon
The crazy co2 pellet blasters are the neatest to me
dire viper
its like an in-between of glass beading and sand blasting
gives more of a glass bead finish but also is pretty good at removing harder materials
cerulean talon
Yeah
dire viper
yea those r awesome
im not sure on the pricing but I feel like the ppl who offer it as a service are over charging
cause its pretty damn expensive
but also every OEM Classic restoration center uses them
Porsche, BMW, Ferrari etc etc etc
I wanna visit BMW Classic
they got the Goldfisch
prototype car that an engineer built in his garage, and he built a custom one off V16 in his kitchen for it...
cerulean talon
I wonder what a liquid nitrogen + dry ice blaster would do
dire viper
how much cooling do you need? a fucking trunks worth apparently
two countach radiators mounted in the trunk with side intake ducts
dire viper
I wonder what a liquid nitrogen + dry ice blaster would do
lethal weapon
cerulean talon
lethal weapon
Not like any of the other ones aren’t, it’s just a function of exposure
dire viper
true
me being exposed to chemicals that arent allowed in most of the US at that one job
Benco B17
a single drop was enough to cause a burning sensation for hours
its just extremely pure hydrofluoric acid?
10% concentrate
oh also the zinc plating solution we used is only legal in utah and one other state
cause we dont have functioning regulations
but it give sthe best zinc plating result
cerulean talon
I mean, hf is nasty stuff in general
dire viper
that shit ate a whole rack of ribs in a few mins
like gone
it also stripped paint off brakes in like 1 minute
dire viper
I mean, hf is nasty stuff in general
I think you need some permit to have it here but we didnt have that :D
cause it needs to be in a ventilated and temperature controlled area (it wasnt)
unsure if my respirator was even rated for that (doubt)
cerulean talon
Hf? Maybe in a commercial setting
cerulean talon
You can buy it pretty easily in a variety of forms
Yeah, 10% isn’t awful in relative terms, but it’s still not good xD
dire viper
yea god forbid you have anything more
cerulean talon
Hf in general is on the short list of things I won’t touch
cerulean talon
Etching anything with silicon
It’s hugely important in the semiconductor industry due to that
Hf is one of the few acids that will readily eat glass because of that property
dire viper
ooooooooooh
that makes sense
so if I have lung problems in a few years I know who to sue now
cerulean talon
Haha
dire viper
funny diesel car
some ppl here have diesel Alpina SUV's and they're interesting
much much nicer than BMW lol
they sit way lower than stock and have much more comfortable suspension
limo SUV's basically
oh also like over 700ft lbs of torque at 2000rpm
sly elk
some ppl here have diesel Alpina SUV's and they're interesting
some people
ya know it's funny i almost never see those
rarer than mclarens LOL
dire viper
its cause Alpina's are fuggin expensive
and also you aint gonna be buying one off a lot, they're mostly to order
where as I can drive down to a McLaren dealer and they'll sell me whatever they can
sharp star
Twitter
hazy frost
are they going to give it a stupidly high res screen again so the performance upgrade over the other handhelds is completely unnoticeable
why is the 9" display 1440p
just do 1200x800
dire viper
Cause pixels
hazy frost
smart
its just so dumb lmao
no one will notice it
they will notice 20fps bc of res tho
glossy ravine
So I got a 32 GB DDR4 Ram kit set at 3200 Mhz,
However, my already existing 16 GB is clocked at 3600 Mhz, should I just swap the 32 GB in or-
Will it be a noticeable decrease in speed or should I just have all 4 sticks in and have the 3600 run at 3200 Mhz and have 48 GB of RAM
dull garnet
You won't notice, but you also won't notice the difference between 32GB and 48GB. I'd just run the 32GB kit only
glossy ravine
(I've been running 16 since I built the system btw.)
hazy frost
Will it be a noticeable decrease in speed or should I just have all 4 sticks in ...
U can’t run them at 3600 and 3200 separately
They’ll all run at 3200 if ur using the new kit
Just swap them out
paper tusk
dire viper
the E36 M3
sly elk
took the cadillac to the dealer to get the purge valve replaced since it's under a special warranty yay
but then they're like hey you should change the transmission fluid, battery, and get a decarb/fuel system cleaning uhhhh
the good news is I already did transmission fluid in june!
and that battery is only 2 years old >< it may just be low because it hasn't been driven much lately but if it really needs a new battery i'm not paying them $460 for that
that leaves the decarb cleaning!
.... which is an interesting one. @dire viper I'm curious of your thoughts on that. those v6 lfx are DI engines so, they can benefit from it afaik but ehh?
dire viper
.... which is an interesting one. <@133298657821720576> I'm curious of your tho...
all residue hurts combustion
and exhaust flow
but unless its actually black black dont worry about it
as long as you arent driving the thing cold all the time, ie driving for less than 10-15 minutes every time, it shouldnt be an issue
cold means stuff goes unburnt
so you get more build up
sly elk
lol it's a city car so I'm sure it's looking lovely in there
oily gunky loveliness
$390 for it, if it's a walnut blasting that is a decent price... but if they're just spraying gm top cleaner in there and then giving it an italian tune up idk lol 😄
glossy ravine
It's really nice to see Intel put out a really good budget beast of a Graphics card. The Arc B580
More competition is always a good thing.
Nvidia doesn't know what Budget Friendly means.
And AMD is more of the midranged guys.
paper tusk
8070xt is going to aim squarely at 4070 ti super for less buckazoids
or an improved 7900GRE to address raytrace
5070 non-ti is going to have to pull a value miracle out of its ass to be better with less vram (and "AI bullshit" doesn't count)
dire viper
new video from great car guy Derek Tam Hyphen Scott
history of the Diablo and why its unique
oh and the one in the video is for sale :)
glossy ravine
I somewhat disassembled my cooler to change the ram and
glossy ravine
some cleaned dust later. 32 GB installed 
dull garnet
Now enable xmp
glossy ravine
I'm an AMD build.
modest moss
got rog ally for xmas, cba to set it up
hazy frost
But it’s what everyone calls it online for AMD even tho it wasn’t on ddr4
modest moss
effort
glossy ravine
????????
I looked at what XMP was on Google and it explicitly mentioned Intel so I thought i was sol 
modest moss
merry christmas speedy
glossy ravine
Let us know what you think of the Ally shue
modest moss
will do
hazy frost
I looked at what XMP was on Google and it explicitly mentioned Intel so I though...
XMP is the word used for Intel now ddr5 is out but they’re the same thing anyway just overclocking profiles for ram
glossy ravine
I've always been a bit nervous to OC anything
hazy frost
The worst thing that happens with XMP profiles is that it just isn’t stable and u have to turn it off
And most modern hardware it’s hard to make mistakes with tbf unless ur very stupid about it
Just don’t adjust voltages urself on anything basically
dull garnet
its barely ocing in the traditional sense, you're just telling the ram to run at the speed it is advertised at
a single setting
hazy frost
its barely ocing in the traditional sense, you're just telling the ram to run at...
It’s the same as traditional OCing there’s no difference
It’s just that now it comes nice and preset for u
And some manyfscturers won’t cover issues from it bc it still is the same OC
outer sand
is there such thing as keyboard, mouse and headphone holder/stand?
just to keep my desk tidy, haha
potent arrow
is there such thing as keyboard, mouse and headphone holder/stand?
I have a hanger for my headphones offthe edge of the desk
outer sand
ah yeah I guess that's my only choice 😬
I'm surprised there isn't any stand for all 3
considering wireless everything
potent arrow
cuz most people leave m\kb on their desk always
outer sand
sly elk
pretty good deal
1000w gold psu for $89.99 or platinum for 99.99
psu tier list doesn't like it though
[6] Leadex V series has 1) OCP set to 100.8% of nominal capacity, i.e lacking the headroom for transients when most high-end PSUs have it set in the range of 120-140%. So for example a 1kW version of it more like 750-850W in comparison with competition. 2) 20AWG cables past the first PCIe connector, which is against ATX spec.
(if the pcie connector note is what I think it is, you should never use the second pcie connector on those cables anyway)
hazy frost
psu tier list doesn't like it though
I’ll go with the psu tier list
It’s not cheap enough to justify it
There’s better sales for 1000w ones tbh
I paid that for my HX1000i in just a normal sale and stuff costs more here than US usually
sly elk
I paid that for my HX1000i in just a normal sale and stuff costs more here than ...
heh
i have never seen an hx1000i for $100
ever
sly elk
they are currently $215 and the regular price is 259? huh i remember them being solidly $300-ish for a while x_X
oh maybe it was because for a while they weren't selling the hx1000i
only the higher wattage units
yea you really got a deal
off the top of my head i'd say a reputable 1000w gold would cost around 150
maybe 129 or so on sale
hazy frost
I’ve seen a few like the rm1000e or A1000GL for $110 often anyway
UD1000GM is like $120 or $130 rn tho
sly elk
i'm seeing 149 for a rm1000e right now
though I do believe the $110 claim
i've seen the rm750e go for about $100
hazy frost
It gets to 110 often Christmas isn’t a great time to be shopping fr
hazy frost
i've seen the rm750e go for about $100
Most of their psus are such bad value
sly elk
hazy frost
The RM650 and rm1000e is the only one I’ve seen become reasonable recently
Maybe a CXM occasionally
The MSI A-GL ones are always pretty good price
And gigabyte UD-GM
sly elk
ooo
$799 for a 7900xtx ... hell hound though lol
the hell hound always goes on sale
yea but thenyou have the gigabyte psu stigma lol
hazy frost
yea but thenyou have the gigabyte psu stigma lol
Yeah the one prior to the UD GM wasn’t too good lmao
The PGM ones
Bomba
sly elk
odd sand
> [6] Leadex V series has 1) OCP set to 100.8% of nominal capacity, i.e lacking...
That's for the Super Flower? I thought they were usually supposed to be quite good? On the same tier as Seasonic and Silverstone?
sly elk
i'm not too surprised though, iirc the evga g3s had the same issue with OCP
royal forge
I bought a new hdd
Plugged in and nothing worked
Was damn near shittin myself till i remembered to partition and format it 
potent arrow
sly elk
hazy frost
That's for the Super Flower? I thought they were usually supposed to be quite go...
It depends on model not the brand
All of them have made some proper shit ones that no one should buy
The III and VII are better than the V as well
For their prices especially
dull garnet
Yeah you need to research per model for power supplies generally
hazy frost
Even Evga made stuff no one should ever buy lmao
The BQ isn’t great and the N and B ones weren’t great generally either
dull garnet
I believe super flower made my evga p2
sly elk
Iirc the g2 and p2 were considered solid
The g3 was super flower buf I don't think the p3 was
dull garnet
9 years on its powering my 5800x3d and 4070
odd sand
https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/1hlsa6y/lotion_aveeno_daily_mois...
The real cursed lotion comes after this.
...Thermal Jizzly brand?
sly elk
lol
odd sand
EVGA doesn't make their own though, all of them are bought from various OEMs... like Silverstone, Seasonic, and Super Flower.
And while it's true there are good and not so good models from all companies, there are still companies that are overall way better than others. Ones where you don't want any of their PSUs whatsoever lol.
hazy frost
I mean yes but it’s just you said it’s superflower so it should be good which is an assumption that ends in people having problems by trusting brands
Asus…
sly elk
the nice thing about evga and corsair is they still have a presence in the US, which makes getting warranty support less annoying.
dire viper
@sly elk @potent arrow 858i CSL by Reyn Speed Shop. It’s a heavily modified and lightened 850i with the engine out of the E60 M5 (the V10) and interior swapped in.
sly elk
@dire viper check out that steering wheel lol frigging wood i love it. it's not exactly my color choices though but it's cool
sticking wood in a sporty car LOL
oioo even the carpet matches the dash
ehehhee carvana
i love how they don't give a damn when they take pictures LOL
i wonder if they have any cars with cloth seats listed with big stains on the seats
i always hear about how american cars have cheap interiors but
that interior looks cheap
frozen bolt
Is $400, tax included, a good deal on a 4070?
honest panther
Yes
wise musk
wild wyvern
@real edge https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10f1a1/2/cpu-intense-tasks/1920x1080/ what the blud is this
why tf is r5 5600x too weak for rx 6600
real edge
<@237520386730885121> https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/10f1a1/...
dont trust sites like that
bottlenecking has too many factors
wild wyvern
ah
frozen bolt
Well, Walmart is selling 4070s at $375. At least mine did, scour your stores.
sly elk
yea onedrive and, for that matter, icloud
are both pieces of shit :3
i wonder how dropbox is holding up these days
$16.58 USD /mo for 3tb storage if you pay for it annually
it seems the 2tb storage is still cheaper than onedrive if you don't care about having office ($99/year for office 365 with 1tb?)
sly elk
thekapco finally shipped that peanuts set I bought :3
I think they did it because I made a comment about it in one of their posts that it'd been 9 days and they still hadn't shipped anything lol
eh probably just a coincidence though 😄
sly elk
hey icehunter did you ever finish your new computer build?
like
the white lianli build
zinc sluice
my realtek audio driver randomly does this and shaves off my lifespan everytime, the fastest fix is going to realtek audio driver panel and changing quality to 44khz and changing it back upto 48k. Has anyone ever dealt with this
potent arrow
what the fuck lol
zinc sluice
i dont even know what to search for this
potent arrow
why do you have the weirdest PC issues
zinc sluice
it either stops on its own after a bit or i have to tick this back and forth
the amount of times i threw my headphones away in a scare is countless
its like once every 2 days or so
potent arrow
can you unhover that menu
zinc sluice
zinc sluice
uhh
690 something fuck
sec hwinfo slow
690 g
,,,
did i not
unlock my ram?
oh my god i didnt
im gonna lose it
potent arrow
bingo
zinc sluice
what
zinc sluice
fucking #lol
potent arrow
I'll look around
my googlefu finds shit fast but uh seems like they chose a bad part lol
zinc sluice
potent arrow
so maybe get a better external dac or something ig
potent arrow
go to your mobo website and grab em
potent arrow
yes
zinc sluice
im p sure they are up to date
zinc sluice
after i finish this video comm,,
hazy frost
they are always so fucking shit
They’re shit until u spend $700 on a motherboard just for onboard audio which I have known people do when a DAC is like $40
It shouldn’t be that bad on that z690 anyway
dull garnet
onboard audio 😂
solid panther
well that was a bit of a butt clench
pc restarted but i got a black screen several times
I unplugged and replugged in everything, made sure things were properly seated, and it seems fine now
but im eyeing this mfker closely
this build is only a couple months old so it fuckin better not be havin issues
hazy frost
Just happens sometimes
I had issues the other day but it just resolves itself pretty easily
That or I have to press the clear cmos button which is atl easier than taking the battery out
night leaf
winged fjord
Just got my new GPU, about to install it. Do I need to install new drivers (and possibly uninstall old ones) before or after I've put the new card in?
cerulean talon
Windows will provide some basic ones, are you staying in the same brand (Nvidia -> Nvidia for ex)
winged fjord
No, I'm going from an Nvidia to an AMD Radeon
cerulean talon
!faq ddu
Oh right, kupo's not happy with me rn.
You'll probally want to run DDU when you're done and clean all the old drivers then load the latest from AMD.
winged fjord
Okay, so I do that after putting the new card in? Just making sure
cerulean talon
Doesn't really matter when, it's all about the same.
winged fjord
... Hmm. I'm trying to install my new SSD too, but I seem to have misplaced the extra standoffs from my motherboard's box... This could be a problem.
However, it's also covered by a metal.. thingy, which should also keep it pressed down into place. With that, should it be fine to install anyway, or should I wait until I get an actual standoff?
cerulean talon
You should have the standoff for mechncial support.
winged fjord
... Yeahhhhh you're probably right, I should play it safe for now. Reckon I could buy one in person at Best Buy or something, or will I need to order online?
cerulean talon
BB won't have them.
winged fjord
Any stores that would, or...?
cerulean talon
Microcenter might, but amazon usually has em next day.
dire viper
new tires on the Carrera GT has made it faster around the Nurburgring than the 918 Spyder, the hybrid-V8 setup super car
918 Spyder has 887 hp and 944 pound-feet of torque in a 3,800lb package where as the Carrera GT has 612 hp and 437 pound-feet of torque in a 3,050lb package
winged fjord
GPU plugged and screwed in... HDMI connected... moment of truth
IT LIVES
And just ran DDU, so that should have cleaned up the drivers from my previous GPU. Hopefully this is all good now
... I might have screwed up. Now my monitor isn't displaying anything even though the computer is definitely on
lost python
did you just restart? if so give it a few min. if it still doesnt work, try restarting again
winged fjord
Nevermind, rebooted, it works now
lost python
ah lol
winged fjord
Unfortunately with how my mobo is laid out, I'll have to remove the GPU entirely to install the SSD when I get the standoff for it
late basalt
Unfortunately with how my mobo is laid out, I'll have to remove the GPU entirely...
fwiw that should be a non-issue regarding software. just a pain in the ass design choice
hazy frost
Unfortunately with how my mobo is laid out, I'll have to remove the GPU entirely...
This is the same reason I’ve put off buying another for like 1+ years now
Gpu too fat to get ssd in
hazy frost
My x670e has all the SSD slots below it lol
Actually there is one above it but like I use that one
There’s 3 under the gpu I need to take the gpu out for
sly elk
what would be nice is if we had some kinda setup where you could slot those ssd cards in vertically
sly elk
i have one laying around but it only has 1 slot
tbh!
TBH!!!!
I'd prefer a motherboard that had a bunch of x4 slots instead of a bunch of m.2
the riser cards would be preferred lol
you can kinda get that
sly elk
NEAT! At some point unifi protect added ptz support for some onvif cameras
sly elk
fyi if you're using that combo, you have to remove the camera and add it back to get the ptz option!!
argh also my garage camera turns all the way around when I tap the arrow keys LOL
sly elk
https://old.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputing/comments/1hnyx4k/from_the_depths_of_my_parents_basement/
good ole trash 80 😄
dire viper
It’s so sad how slow normal Hemi’s are
The 392 Super Bee is actually pretty fuckin quick but it comes on drag radials and has a better engine tune
They can’t even keep up with the M3 so unfortunate
And my car gets doo dooed on by an obese Audi SUV
sly elk
but like
normal hemis are fine
and also
why do you want a charger to catch up with an m3
that's like asking why a honda odyssey can't catch up with a honda civic
dire viper
I mean it’s a 392
It should be quick at least 😭
But it’s not because commuter
Or more recently there is a guy rolling around in an old K swapped accord that runs to sixty faster than a hellcat does
Because yes
Idk it’s just sad muscle cars are slow
They are supposed to do the straight line thing
But also it’s just cause most of them get uppity, it’s like the VQ drivers
M3 badge makes ppl go crazy
Stock VQ ain’t beating the M3 in a roller unfortunately
Ngl the M3 just attracts the worst ppl
They just wanna race and it’s annoying
I’ve had ppl in civics try to pass me in the canyons and almost wipe out before
Like I’m going over the speed limit and they try to pass in blind corners
And they understeer out and can’t make the turn
potent arrow
sly elk
Ngl the M3 just attracts the worst ppl
i feel like the absolute worst thing a high school kid could drive to school is an m3 for this reason exactly
i used to know a spoiled brat kid on the mac forum that did that
his car kept getting keyed and stuff
dire viper
his car kept getting keyed and stuff
Based
sly elk
yea idk if he was pissing people off but it still seems messed up
it's unfortunate but no matter what people always hate on cars LOL
sly elk
i never cared for bmw hoffmeister kink cars but i wouldn't go key one ya know?
dire viper
i never cared for bmw hoffmeister kink cars but i wouldn't go key one ya know?
So all of them
Since uh
The new class
dire viper
So 60’s
sly elk
but it grinded my gears when in like
dire viper
Literally the defining and only consistent design feature
sly elk
the 2008 accord?
dire viper
And even the 5 series after it faltered
dire viper
The E60 is kind of wonky
sly elk
the e39 wasn't what i'd call a "hoffmeister kink car"
dire viper
Where nobody had shit figured out but also only way to get it figured out is to do it
dire viper
the e39 wasn't what i'd call a "hoffmeister kink car"
It has it tho
sly elk
so the e60 was when they started exaggerating it and making it all high
dire viper
Nah it was earlier
dire viper
Weird 3 series that were just short
To me it’s not bad cause it makes sense
Just more visibility
Eats the C pillar
dire viper
Honestly the 2000’s were a strange time
BMW was literally at their peak
Same with VW group
While everybody else started floundering
sly elk
big bulky ass
sly elk
the best 300
I will die on that hill
I think it was the best looking car made in that time period
dire viper
The steering wheels in those are by far the ugliest thing every mounted in a car
sly elk
ok ok best looking 4 door sedan 🖕
dire viper
And the 05-06 Ford GT is arguably best looking car ever
sly elk
but it's a silly personal opinion
dire viper
ok ok best looking _4 door sedan_ 🖕
Maserati Quattroporte
sly elk
Maserati Quattroporte
NO! But I do like them.
dire viper
It’s funny cause that’s not the best looking Quattroporte
sly elk
for sure
dire viper
But it’s the best sounding one
dire viper
It’s the one that lit just has the Ferrari V8 with better exhaust than a Ferrari
sly elk
but I'll give them a B for effort LOL
dire viper
look at that nasty attempt at a hoffmeister kink
That’s swept upwards at the bottom instead of flat
sly elk
those cars were weird in a good way
dire viper
So doesn’t count smh
sly elk
so again, I like em
sly elk
i've never managed to have a good convo with anyoen who owned a volvo lol but I still remember this one interaction with a coworker
dire viper
sly elk
company vp was driving a like 2010 s60 or s90? idk
one day I brought the cadillac to work in between selling my old jeep and getting the blue one
and he was like "is that yours? you don't seem like the kinda person to drive one of those"
and I was thinking the sam ething about him driving the volvo LOL
sly elk
i think the current s90 is hella sharp looking
having seen them a few times in person
i don't think i'd ever buy one though
dire viper
If I were to buy a brand new car it would be a V60 Polestar
sly elk
v90? they look cool too
dire viper
It’s overly fast and actually what you want in a luxury car
sly elk
man they've kept that body shape a while huh lol
dire viper
dire viper
man they've kept that body shape a while huh lol
They just keep making it more hard line each generation, which is what I like. Muscular wagons.
sly elk
IDK MAN
dire viper
The Haldex in the Golf R is good enough to make it a fucking rocket ship in a foot of snow
sly elk
that shifter is ugly tho
dire viper
I know because that’s one of the few cars that monsters up the canyons here after snowing
sly elk
The Haldex in the Golf R is good enough to make it a fucking rocket ship in a fo...
yea I suppose that's a thing right
if you care about climbing snowy hills
dire viper
Also it’s Volvo
Swedish
European
So FWD bias makes sense
Even if you rally the car it’s better than rear bias
sly elk
i do like my bad behavior being rewarded with rear end slide
dire viper
Even the OG inline 6 V60 polestar was front bias
sly elk
but uhh
admittedly
not as much in my jeep LOL
adding rollover risk to the equation makes it not fun
dire viper
The 19” wheels on the E46 make it understeer, the 18” (what I have) make it oversteer
Funny how that works
sly elk
that's interesting
dire viper
It’s intentional
dire viper
Nope
sly elk
then that would change suspension geometry I suppose
dire viper
It’s weird
It’s the tires more
The 19’s are half an inch wider than the 18’s
That’ll do it
18’s are on thicker sidewall that’s narrower
Less ground patch to resist turning
dull garnet
that is atrocious
winged fjord
This looks like the kind of computer + desk you'd see in a Dr. Seuss hospital
hazy frost
both
it has a clock freq of 3000 and transfer speed of 6000
technically ram is advertised with mhz but should be MT
its confusing/misleading for people
zinc sluice
so its gucci?
paper tusk
peak greed ($1,450 USD 5080, $2,600 USD 5090)
dire viper
peak greed ($1,450 USD 5080, $2,600 USD 5090)
making sure the 40 series prices dont drop too fast so they can really strangle the market
paper tusk
yeah really 
lost python
jensens new leatherjacket is made out of saffron
inland mauve
what the fuck
$2600????????
that's more than an entire ultra high end PC was a few years ago
like you could EASILY build a PC with a 1080 Ti and other appropriate specs in it just 6 - 7 years ago for that money
sharp star
dull garnet
rip
hazy frost
like you could EASILY build a PC with a 1080 Ti and other appropriate specs in i...
Tbf the 1080ti isn’t close to how much further ahead the xx90 cards are
Think how much titan cards cost
The 5080 is a bit expensive still for what they’re selling
dire viper
like you could EASILY build a PC with a 1080 Ti and other appropriate specs in i...
You could build a current PC for that much easily
4080, 5800X3D
hazy frost
RTX Titan was the same price what like 5 years ago
But now they can sell the unnecessary gpu to gamers with too much money as well
dire viper
Yea but a titan is a work station card
Why the fuck the mainline cards cost that much
It’s lit just greed
cerulean talon
Titans weren’t particularly workstation cards
hazy frost
Why the fuck the mainline cards cost that much
Because that’s what the 5090 realistically is for, people using it as a workstation
They just manage to sell more of them trying to tell people it’s a card u need for gaming
dire viper
How much did Quadros cost
cerulean talon
They were just absurdly overbuilt to all end and served decently as workstation cards
hazy frost
4090 and 5090 are both just Titan cards
cerulean talon
Quadros are actually relatively cheap, you just don’t get any d3d performance usually
hazy frost
Yeah I’m just saying this isn’t a new thing yet people are always outraged
This kind of gpu already cost relatively more 5 years ago
dire viper
And I understand the chip manufacturing is absurdly expensive but also. How much does the board on a 4090 actually cost at the end when you’ve been making tens of thousands of them
hazy frost
Wait until u see their actual high end stuff lol
cerulean talon
600-800$ for each chip last time I worked it out
Doesn’t include ram, or any supporting hardware
dire viper
See ok that’s understandable
hazy frost
The 4090 is actually relatively cheap honestly
dire viper
So 1000 for the board
hazy frost
The 5090 is what I’d expect for what they’re selling
cerulean talon
Nor the 12 layer pcbs you need
dire viper
Wait until u see their actual high end stuff lol
I am aware
hazy frost
So 1000 for the board
Account for transporting as well
cerulean talon
Uh, there’s around 600-800$ in ram and vregs
Actual unit cost is likely in the 1200-1400$ range
And that’s before engineering costs
dire viper
I’d think it would be lower
hazy frost
People are also just outraged by a gpu they don’t need being expensive
dire viper
Per unit
hazy frost
Like… just buy the not $2600 one
cerulean talon
A single vreg runs you, in 1000 part costs, around 30$ each
When you’re switching 400-500 amps at 1.2v you need some wild hardware
dire viper
Like… just buy the not $2600 one
The not top of the line one is also absurdly expensive
hazy frost
The not top of the line one is also absurdly expensive
Is it tho
dire viper
Yea
hazy frost
It’s what the 2080ti cost
dire viper
When you’re switching 400-500 amps at 1.2v you need some wild hardware
That’s true
hazy frost
In fact with inflation less than what that cost
dire viper
cerulean talon
Realistically, I expect that the hardware cost for a 5090 is around 2k
Between chip/fab fails and the giant slab of gddr they’re slamming into it
dire viper
I wonder what the stats on the 5080 will be
hazy frost
The 5080 will probably just be 4090 performance in practice but new gpu
cerulean talon
Tsmc is also not being cheap with wafers at this point
hazy frost
And less vram
dire viper
Tsmc is also not being cheap with wafers at this point
I will burn down TSMC
cerulean talon
Why? They make all the asics for your cars
Tsmc does far more than only latest process nodes
cerulean talon
Says the bmw lover
dire viper
Implementation is bad not the product
cerulean talon
Subaru is the only way nods
dire viper
Says the bmw lover
I think my car has less computing power than my phone
hazy frost
Everything good involves tsmc