technology-discussion

[wild wyvern]

But im still gonna keep my rx 580 for abit longer

So do i stay on my i5 4440 for abit longer or upgrade it?

[golden stream]

Can

W11 is awful anyway

[wild wyvern]

Its abit old tbh

[golden stream]

Ik but can hold on then upgrade to bonker AM5 platform later

Then wait 10+ years for another upgrade

[potent arrow]

as much as 11 sucks I still wouldn't discourage people from updating just for security patches

weird security hill I will die on

[wild wyvern]

Im not gonna go win 11 anyways tbh

[golden stream]

Wellllllll maybe that I'd say if w12 is not supported on intel 12th gen imma switch full linux

[wild wyvern]

So yeah

[golden stream]

I ain't buy a new gaming laptop just for w12

[potent arrow]

lmao but y'know people went all saavy enough to switch to 12, I just blanket statement it

intell requiring a new scheduler will forever be a big L

I hope they get less stupid in the years to come after this recent ceo shit

and like two generations of mega ass

[golden stream]

Tfw intel arc gpu is both good and bad at the same time lmao

It's so bad but it's also kinda funni

[potent arrow]

yep

I hope Nvidia and AMD take the slightest of notice

Nvidia GPUs are pretty prohibitively expensive here

[golden stream]

Everywhere tho

AMD has some weird jank

[wild wyvern]

Yeah but i dont think 4 cores is enough lol

@golden stream whats your advice?

[golden stream]

What's ur budget?

[wild wyvern]

1 to 2k

[paper tusk]

what currency?

[wild wyvern]

myr

[golden stream]

Oof SEA tax

[paper tusk]

yeah so about 450 usd tops

[wild wyvern]

Yeah lmao it sucks

[golden stream]

Henlo, SEA here

[wild wyvern]

or 2.5k

[golden stream]

So 2.5k MYR?

[wild wyvern]

ye

[golden stream]

Yeeeeee that's hella tight

Keep the rx580 until it can't

[wild wyvern]

I was planning to get rx 6660

But yeah keep my rx 580 for longer

cpu? @golden stream

[golden stream]

Check the price of both AM4 and AM5 then

Are you ok w some secondhand parts?

[wild wyvern]

Ive seen am4 before

am5 not yet

[golden stream]

Check it, and also secondhand market as well

[wild wyvern]

I already have an newish psu tho

[golden stream]

O nice, PSU is always a good investment

[wild wyvern]

Well

Cuz my old psu ded

So had to get a new one

Its an corsair cv 650

[golden stream]

Decent enough

Tho a 650w will limit a wee bit but still should be fineTM

[wild wyvern]

im not gonna go high end tbh lol

[golden stream]

Even that tho

There are tricks like undervolt to lower power usage tho

[wild wyvern]

Hmmmm

[golden stream]

and somehow it works well, considering manufacturer does force voltage to make the appearance of running fast

It does wear overtime so I'd undervolt anyway

[wild wyvern]

So yeah im not those who want all high end haha

[golden stream]

Last longer as well

Ya even not highend

I had my 1660 OC card + silicon lottery, it ran fast by default, and somehow ran faster while drawing less power after undervolt

[wild wyvern]

My i5 4440 limred my rx 580 perf

[golden stream]

Ye, prob a set of motherboard + cpu + memory then

Can keep the GPU

[wild wyvern]

Yeah

That

Need a better storage too

1tb nvme or 2tb maybe

[paper tusk]

bit of a hack and slash list of inspiration https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b3hfPJ

haven't checked if the ram and the motherboard are on friendly terms

[wild wyvern]

I rather go ryzen 5 than intel i5

@paper tusk

or ryzen 7

[paper tusk]

do you need wifi?

[wild wyvern]

I have a wifi dongle

[paper tusk]

amd board stock wifi sucks

(ok)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FLtZZc funny list

sketchy budget depending on local retailers

the cpu will last forever though

ignore that warning about the bios. suggested board has a flash option where no cpu is needed

now anyone else can chime in

[sly elk]

still better than nvidia on linux >>

[wild wyvern]

Yeaah

Ive heard r7 5700x3d is good for long

@paper tusk 5700x is ok too?

[paper tusk]

it should be fine

not as good in gaming but 8 core is gravy

[wild wyvern]

Yea

And r7 5700x is qute cheap here

800 myr

Or 759

@paper tusk

[paper tusk]

nice

[sly elk]

huhhh

https://store.ui.com/us/en/category/all-integrations/products/unas-pro

it looks like an nvr pro!

[wild wyvern]

@paper tusk meanwhile i5 is like 1k myr for me

lmao

Thats why its like oof

I doubt 10 cores would have any benefit

[paper tusk]

it would be the same thread count so same difference depending on what you're doing

[wild wyvern]

Hmmm im just gonna gsme and maybe emulation

[hazy frost]

The new i5s aren’t 10 P cores anyway, if actually has less of those than the 5700x

[wild wyvern]

Oh

[hazy frost]

6 P cores and 4 E cores that perform significantly worse than the other 6

[wild wyvern]

So r7 5700x is better?

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s cheaper and has more P cores I’d get it over the i5

[wild wyvern]

Yeah tbh im gonna get em

How about 5700x3d

[hazy frost]

It’s good for gaming if u can afford it

[wild wyvern]

I can afford it if i dont include a gpu upgrade

[hazy frost]

Well if ur not upgrading your gpu the extra performance of the 5700x3d might be wasted anyway

[wild wyvern]

so 5700x?

[hazy frost]

Depends what gpu u have now

[wild wyvern]

RX 580

[hazy frost]

Yeah id upgrade gpu and get the 5700x then

U won’t notice the difference between the x and x3d with an rx580

[wild wyvern]

Errrr im keeping the rx 580 for abit longer

[real edge]

there are quite a few cheap gpus nowdays that are quite a bit better than that one

[wild wyvern]

is it?

Which

[real edge]

[hazy frost]

There’s multiple depending on country

For new ones probably the rx6600 or arc a750/770

[real edge]

you were SEA or something right

[hazy frost]

Used ones the 2060/2070, 5700xt, 1080 are reasonable prices for what u get usually atl one of those is cheap

[wild wyvern]

I heard rx 6660 is EoL

[real edge]

whats your budget

[wild wyvern]

2.5 k myr

[real edge]

ohh thats quite a bit

[hazy frost]

It’s a hell of a lot better than the rx580

[real edge]

hm

[hazy frost]

It’s low end for modern GPUs but compared to what ur using already

[wild wyvern]

@hazy frost i heaed its EoL

[hazy frost]

U can still get them

[real edge]

is that what you were gonna spend on the whole pc or just 1 part

or several

[wild wyvern]

Several

[real edge]

current CPU?

hm

with 500 USD

what is the cost of the 5700/5700x3d?

over there

you can go for

[wild wyvern]

700+ for 5700x

i5 444p

4440

[real edge]

ohh dear

uhh

that needs more than just a cpu

[wild wyvern]

Yeah mobo and ram

But i dont wanna throw away my rx 580

its still running

[real edge]

I do not know your local prices

hm

like

if I choose a motherboard on pcpartpicker

[wild wyvern]

i remember rx 6660 is like 999 myr

[real edge]

it does not guarantee that its available there for cheap

[wild wyvern]

Yea

Honestly idk how tbh

I can ask my local it retailer tbh

[real edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hzKvfd

I kept it close to your budget

but something like this

would be a decent to big upgrade

👍

[wild wyvern]

7600 is expensive no?

Im gonna go for matx tho @real edge

[real edge]

yeah

as long as its cheap and good

go for it

[wild wyvern]

I also need a 2tb m.2 ssd

Or 1tb

[real edge]

id upgrade the whole pc

if I were you tbh

[wild wyvern]

Im keeping the psu tho

[real edge]

I kept it close to 580

as least in USD

ull have to figure out local prices as well

we did discuss M2 ssds

if I remember right

so you already have one picked

personally id try to get the 5700x3d

but it might stretch your budget too much

if upgrading everything at once

the rx580 is very old and not anywhere near good enough

for most stuff

[wild wyvern]

https://www.allithypermarket.com.my/products/acer-predator-bifrost-amd-radeon-rx-7600-8gb-gddr6-graphics-card-dp-z36ww-p02?_pos=2&_sid=e52a0338b&_ss=r

[real edge]

the 7600 should be around

230-250usd

ish

[wild wyvern]

Is 1tb worth it or 2tb

[real edge]

it depends on your own needs

storage needs

[wild wyvern]

I might not really need 2tb tbh

Seems abit too much

https://www.allithypermarket.com.my/products/teamgroup-t-force-z44a5-m-2-2280-nvme-pcie-gen-4-0-internal-gaming-ssd-with-patented-graphene-heatsink-512gb-1tb?variant=45141779284196

@real edge is the rx 7600 big or small

[real edge]

204 mm in length, 115 mm in width

or more if you go for a model that has 3 fans

[wild wyvern]

nah 2 fans is enough

Im not that crazy xD

[real edge]

try and go for ram that is more speedy than what I suggested

if you go for the non-x3d

and the price is similar

like 3600mhz over 3200

but only if its not more expensive

[wild wyvern]

Bro what

[real edge]

wat

[wild wyvern]

RX 7600 is kinda rare here somehow

Its either out or stock or idk tbh

[real edge]

well

theres the rx 7600 xt

but its slightly more expensive

[wild wyvern]

its more expensive

[real edge]

yes

300USD instead of 250

[wild wyvern]

yeetus

[real edge]

but with 580USD you can at least get the 5700x/x3d and the 7600

which is decent for the cost

[wild wyvern]

Ya

[real edge]

try and get the x3d if possible, its far better

[wild wyvern]

i also want to add the nvme ssd

[real edge]

I remember giving you models in the past

[wild wyvern]

Yeah

Doesnt mean i will have it here

[real edge]

I even remember you checking and giving me links

and me agreeing on some

[wild wyvern]

but im really not sure if some of it is even there tbh

Its really random

Its 1099 myr for 5700x3d

[real edge]

thats a bit oof

it should be like 200usd

thats more like 250

[wild wyvern]

yea

[wild wyvern]

@real edge

The XT ver is too expensive

[real edge]

and regular 7600 non-existant?

[wild wyvern]

Yea they said its rare now

@real edge

Im more than beyond baffled

[real edge]

the fuck are those prices

try searching online

[wild wyvern]

Yeah

[real edge]

like shoppee or lazada

or whatever

[wild wyvern]

same i guess

[royal forge]

Dude

Dont go to physical stores

Unless lowyat

Even then

[wild wyvern]

Im not willing to gamble with online shopping tbh if its like cpu etc

[royal forge]

U gotta use shopee to price scout

All/most of these stores are on shopee

They are quite reliable

Or you can even contact them and negotiate via email/whatsapp

[wild wyvern]

But why not physical store?

[royal forge]

Then u can collect physically

I found the physical store prices higher and they like to gas light you on stuff

I do not like that kinda pressure

[wild wyvern]

Oof

Yeah

[royal forge]

Personal opinion, of course

[real edge]

even here thats the case

even in greece

physical stores suck and buying online reigns supreme because of the prices

[royal forge]

But when I went to lowyat, the store didnt have the 3090, but i contacted the website and magically appeared

[real edge]

and you can call em

and even go fetch it yourself

if you are scared

[royal forge]

^

You can do physical collection. But I'd settle shit online

[wild wyvern]

Ive recieved an faulty gpu once cuz its mined on

[royal forge]

Imo, its rather stressful at those shops and I get annoyed at the stores when they say "no stock" and try to oush other shit

[royal forge]

Depends on seller imo

U know Msia

If the price is too good/seller no rep

U can try the lowyat forums to see seller reputation

And you can even go there to scout prices

But dont trust their build recommendations

[wild wyvern]

Yeah i got stressed too tbh

[royal forge]

And you dont have to go in person to price check btw

[wild wyvern]

but lucky i got an gpu exchange@royal forge

[royal forge]

All the trusted stores have their price lists online

[wild wyvern]

So all was good

[royal forge]

Or on lowyat

And if you buy a bunch, you can SOMETIMES negotiate

But nowadays it a bit hard

[wild wyvern]

But i rather not get an faulty stuf

[royal forge]

Yeye

Thats why u go with the few sellers that are trusted

AllIT, tech hypermart, thundermatch

Etc

I swear they're all run by the same boss but that might just be me paranoid

[wild wyvern]

Even then they might not have the gpu i want online too

[real edge]

u wont know if u dont search and reach out/contact

[royal forge]

^

And you gotta know our market offers diff brands

We have more "china based" ones vs

Whats that branr again

[wild wyvern]

Intel

[royal forge]

Really good customer support

[wild wyvern]

Or idk

[royal forge]

But went bust

For GPUs

We have a literal intel factory

[wild wyvern]

idk tbh

[royal forge]

Up to ya

But in SEA market, gotta online

[wild wyvern]

I rather not go nvidia

And intel

Too expensive

All AMD seems better and cheaper tbh

@royal forge

But yeah maybe need online

[royal forge]

Ur choice

Intel v amd is close call

Amd.. i dunoe, when i was last lookin at the market, it was pricier

[wild wyvern]

AMD is cheaper lol

[hazy frost]

for gpus depends if its a title where intel still dont have their shit together with drivers

its mostly fine now

[wild wyvern]

An rx 6600 is 999 myr while 4060 is 2k myr for sure

Ive been looking at it tbh

[real edge]

999 myr

for the 6600 is crazy

[royal forge]

Crazy good?

[real edge]

no

crazy bad

[wild wyvern]

Online store doesnt have rx 7600 and rx 6600

There is one for rx 7600

an acer predator

1.3k

@real edge

[real edge]

no

rx 7600 = 250-260 usd

not 290

[wild wyvern]

Bruuuh

[real edge]

290USD

[real edge]

is rx 7600XT

[wild wyvern]

Does this seem legit?

[real edge]

ask them what it was used for

[wild wyvern]

im just gonna get rx 6600

I think gaming?

[real edge]

very important to ask what it was used for and for how long

729 myr is not bad

[wild wyvern]

my rx 580 was used for mining

But its still running well

[real edge]

best ask to make sure

[wild wyvern]

2nd hand ofc

[real edge]

is this a person or a store

[wild wyvern]

Store

[real edge]

yeah, thats about 160usd

which is fair for a second hand old GPU

but ask for info first to make sure

[wild wyvern]

So should i buy the new cpu first

and get the used gpu later?

[real edge]

you found a cheap gpu option

might as well get it all, you can fit them within your 2500myr budget

if the gpu is 730

[golden stream]

Oyyyy that's literally my laptop setup lmfao

[wild wyvern]

Im just worried thst the seller said its lightly used but when it comes it breaks

But the prev on the seller did help me change the gpu to another rx 580

Luckily

But like i said i prob want to keep using my rx 580

[real edge]

thats always a fear

with any new tech

it might break

[wild wyvern]

Yeah abit worried

@real edge do i get the cpu used or new

[real edge]

hm

for tech I prefer buying new

[royal forge]

for almost all stuff

buy new

and buy from a reputable seller

for our market, that is

better to spend more but have peace of mind

imo

[wild wyvern]

@royal forge i dont see an rx 6600 for all it tmt etc on shoppee

[wild wyvern]

This no rating leh

[royal forge]

CastleIT

look at the seller

and tbh, the GPU you're looking for, isn't THAT popular here

iirc

[wild wyvern]

I cant fit an 3 fan gpu lah

My casing is an small one

[royal forge]

https://shopee.com.my/search?keyword=6600&shop=12866300

[wild wyvern]

Why all expensive gpu ffs

😭

@royal forge

Im not those high end stuff person

[wild wyvern]

So should i get an 1094 myr rx 6600 or rx 7600 for 1300 myr

[hazy frost]

the 7600 is a better deal

[real edge]

can you check the 6650XT price for me as well

[wild wyvern]

@real edge

[real edge]

ohh oof

1300 is a better deal but its still pricey

have you checked on online shops as well?

[wild wyvern]

Its sold out lmao

@real edge 1400 on one online store

https://brightstarcomp.com/products/acer-predator-bifrost-amd-radeon-rx-7600-oc-8gb-graphics-card?_pos=1&_psq=RX+7&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Will that work for my 2.5k budget?

https://www.tmt.my/products/palit-rtx-3060-dual-lhr-graphics-card or this

There is another 7600 but its 1.7k for an rx 7600 sapphire pulse

@real edge

Its the same store as shoppee tbh

For the acer 7600

[real edge]

1400 and 1700 are approaching rip-off territory

1300 I can see for a disadvantaged country and such

but 1700 is excessive

if u want to get an nvidia card

try and get an rtx 3060ti

but

it must be expensive

[wild wyvern]

The total i got was 2.8k myr for r7 5700x with rx 7600 and 1tb nvme

[real edge]

all from 1 store? and it includes mobo and some fast ram?

or just different stores

[wild wyvern]

3200mhz all from the same store

[real edge]

thats...not that bad...

620usd

[real edge]

tho id prefer if u looked around for cheaper prices than getting it all from 1 store, you might be able to save some money

search shoppee and lazada

try and get 3600mhz ram if its only a tiny bit more pricey

like from 50usd to like 55

type of deal

[wild wyvern]

@real edge

Became cheaper lmao

[real edge]

u want 32 gigs of ram

not 8

[wild wyvern]

16

I put it x2

16gb one is unavailable

But if i want 32gb i gotta got 3200mhz

[real edge]

3200 vs 3600 makes a sizable difference for non X3D am4 cpus

so try to get a 3600kit of 32 gigs if possible

[hazy frost]

I wouldn’t cheap out that much on the motherboard

That’s basically the lowest end u can buy

[wild wyvern]

i want non rgb lmao

[hazy frost]

Just turn the RGB off

[wild wyvern]

How

@real edge instead of 2.8k ot became 3012 myr

[real edge]

what made the price jump that much

the ram?

[wild wyvern]

ye

[real edge]

ohh oof...hmmm

[wild wyvern]

16gb ddr4 3200 maybe then

[real edge]

16gigs is a bit uncomfy nowdays

some games need 32

what are u planning on playing

[wild wyvern]

Ehhh errr idk tbh

AAA games and maybe MMOs?

[real edge]

for AAA games u need 32 gigs preferably

[wild wyvern]

Still 3014 myr

[real edge]

how much is the ram exactly

[wild wyvern]

@real edge 175myr

[real edge]

for 32 gigs?

thats not bad

[wild wyvern]

16x2

But 3200mhz

3600mhz is clearly rare

[wild wyvern]

Also idk why 2tb is more expensive

[real edge]

ofc 2tb is pricier than 1tb

am I missing something or

[wild wyvern]

but 1tb should be enough for me

i dont store too much stuff unless i need to xD

But i forgot some games are chonky

[wild wyvern]

R5 5600x or R7 5700x

[real edge]

CPU?

[wild wyvern]

im mainly gonna game an emulste stuff tbh

i5 4440 like i said earlier on

[real edge]

5700x

[wild wyvern]

ah

[real edge]

5700x and RX 7600

decent combo

for 1080p gaming

and cheap

ull also get fsr and frame gen

where applicable

[wild wyvern]

3k is alot already tbh

[real edge]

ehhh

you are changing the whole pc

in a disadvantaged country

650usd is reasonable for changing your whole pc

is stuff more expensive than it should be?

yes

but thats SEA

esp if ur not willing to shop around online more and stuff

[wild wyvern]

hmmmm but i kinda thought of just changing my cpu tbh

[real edge]

your gpu is quite old

and is not able to hold up to speed for any even halfway demanding title

and I think it does not even get driver updates anymore?

[wild wyvern]

i just got it 2nd hand abit ago lol

Like last year?

[real edge]

rx 580 is very old lol

7 years old at this point

and its like

30% weaker than my 1070 was

and I felt like I had to replace my 1070 cause I was barely getting 60fps in games lol

[wild wyvern]

Well damn lol

[heady cedar]

Eeeeeh, guess who installed Windows update 24h2 when prompted without reading up on it first? So many BSODs. So many....

[real edge]

windows 11?

[heady cedar]

Eeee yup

[wild wyvern]

@real edge will think about it

But my rx 580 could use FSR tho

So yea

[heady cedar]

I checked the event log, a nifty feature I was just introduced to, and saw a bunch of errors and warnings just constantly happening since the update.

I literally got a BSOD by turning the computer on and left clicking the screen with my mouse to enter my PIN. Wasn't even logged in when it happened.

[wild wyvern]

I know my pc is old tbh

[wild wyvern]

Thanks for helping btw

[real edge]

my 1070 had fsr support as well but it felt like it was not enough

at least for me

[real edge]

[wild wyvern]

ahhhh yeah might be why tbh

[hazy frost]

I had a 1070 before and had to replace it over a year ago for new titles but I was playing at 1440p

With FSR at 1080p I can see it being maybe usable

[sharp star]

https://x.com/surri01/status/1867433782992879617
amazing things happening on YouTube dot com

lute (@surri01) on X

hey @youtube can we get rid of this stupid AI generated horseshit please. I dont want to make a video about a burger. I hate you so fucking much, thanks.

Twitter · Dec 13, 2024, 4:58 AM

[inland mauve]

I have a bad feeling that this is just an intermediate step

get content creators to create what the AI suggests them to create to see if it'll catch on

then at some point remove the middle man and have the AI predict and generate the slop itself

I played a game some time ago called [ECHOSTASIS] in which a company tried to do exactly this, use AIs to generate endless slop for people to consume, and in the end they had to conclude that it was impossible because it lacked any human creativity

so instead they developed a full dive VR system that "hijacked" the mind of the person entering it to create endless content through that instead

I'm pretty sure the game started development before the AI craze so they did an amazing job predicting the imminent future

[sly elk]

honestly, there's probably already a service or two out there using ai to analyze trends and recommend videos on certain things or certain styles

like the whole

[inland mauve]

there are entire channels like that

[inland mauve]

just full of algorithmically or even AI generated slop

all those weird videos aimed at children that put random Disney characters into weird situations

[sly elk]

i think 'slop' is one way to describe people desperate to maximize their income optimizing their production lol

i'm not defending it

it's like as if you run a well-respected newspaper and then realize you could make more cash if you turn it into the national enquirer

[inland mauve]

it's enshittification

[sly elk]

yep

it used to be that companies knew this but they'd try to make a 'well balanced diet' anyway knowing that some things would make more money than others

but today everything's about maximizing profit, minimizing costs, etc

[inland mauve]

that's the path Blumhouse went down

they became big by publishing all these small, cheap, creative horror movies because if even one was a big success it'd pay for everything

but now Blumhouse movies are all starting to become kinda the same, and usually PG-13

[sly elk]

haha that's how google used to work, and most VC funded startups right?

throw it at the wall and see if it sticks

if you invest in 100 bullshit startups, at least one of them should take off

[inland mauve]

yeah that's what those big financing companies like to do

[sly elk]

ahaha

i like the contrasting 'grandma'

[celest violet]

Always saw verilog as the default in vivado, no idea anything about it tho

I think the only hardware language my school does is vhdl

[celest violet]

damn a whole ass xilinx board is crazy

I guess those are the boards they intend for you to actually build to 😅

I just simmed my cpu and never actually tested it with a build board

[sly elk]

i mean it's a dev board, you actually put your builds on custom things using the same kinda chip....yea? :3

ohh ok

you can get zynq 7000s that don't cost an arm and a leg

ultrascale+ chips are kinda expensive but even those there's the ultra-72 i think it's called

ultra96*

[celest violet]

My school had some very shitty basys 3 boards we could use, but they were chained to old ass all in ones with hdds that could barely run vivado

[sly elk]

https://www.avnet.com/shop/us/products/avnet-engineering-services/aes-ultra96-v2-g-3074457345638646173/?INTCMP=AMER-ECOMM-AVNET-BOARDS-AVT-INT-WEB-ULTRA96-PRODUCTS-08282026

[celest violet]

so I just chose to use my laptop and save the trouble 😔

[sly elk]

i like how it says in stock... with a quantity of 0

[celest violet]

christ, 299 is a lot

[sly elk]

i have randomly pondered buying one of these to toy with

but i do that kinda stuff enough at work >>

[celest violet]

I kinda wish I knew how to implement the pipelining in the code, but man I had too much on my plate this semester

[sly elk]

i've probably lost enough hair trying to use vivado/petalinux in weird ways :3

[sly elk]

verilog pipelining? it aint that bad but sometimes people use gating as a crutch for not groking the 'everything is always being evaluated at the same time' nature of fpgas

disclaimer: i learned verilog in college and haven't used it since LOL

some of my coworkers do though

[celest violet]

VHDL but yeah

we were required to use vhdl for our processor

[celest violet]

would you say verilog is more commonly used than vhdl, might fuck around and learn one of them

over the summer

[sly elk]

at this point, probably

[golden stream]

dem, somehow nvidia update kinda brokey in my linux system

[sly elk]

i think i'm done with wireless charging for the moment lol

[cerulean talon]

What happened?

[honest panther]

https://tenor.com/view/blowing-up-killed-the-toliet-explode-gif-16139362

[sly elk]

I finally got around to installing a dashcam in the car and I think I found part of the airbag in the a pillar lol

Ain’t it nice and spooky? lol

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-dange-the-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-meme-gif-17180214

Luckily it was a simple wire run, no big deal

I do wish cars had a friggin usb port up there!

At least it’s less cursed than the dashcam setup in my Jeep lol

[celest violet]

Tbf those things get your phone hot

[sly elk]

yea that's part of it

it's also less efficient so the charge is slower

also that dashcam in my jeep si a weird anker one
one of the few dashcams ever made that doesn't use that one chipset that makes the funky sony cybershot sound at startup lol

tbh the a119 i put in the car today, if I'd tried it when i bought it years ago I would've returned it >>

oh it was only a year ago, wow.. feels longer

viofo a119. They take forever to start up!

like a good 30-45 seconds

the anker only takes like 10 seconds at most

[lost python]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-to-feature-16gb-vram-rtx-5060-reportedly-sticks-to-8gb

you know its bad when even the nvidia sub is complaining about this

[real edge]

8 in 2025 lmao

[lost python]

128bit bus

[cerulean talon]

Those sweet sweet apple levels of ram

[golden stream]

da fek

5060 only 8GB REALLY?????????????

I mean even w my current 4060 laptop it's relatively fineTM in mid-custom high

but still, in 2025, 8GB, really

[hazy frost]

It’s the fact it’s a 128bit bus as well tho lmao

Going from 192bit and 12GB from the 3060

The best GPUs at the lower price range are always just last years mid range models anyway

[sharp star]

The existence of Battlemage cards also makes it funnier

[hazy frost]

If they can get the b580 working 100% for all games it’ll be the only good value current gen one lol

Rn it’s hard to recommend without knowing if someone wants to play a game where it might be 50% worse than its average performance

[golden stream]

I told my pal to get a 12GB 3070 maybe after the panini a bit, best decision ever

He rarely streams, mostly game in high and 3d works, so it works well enough

[sly elk]

https://jalopnik.com/these-are-the-dumbest-things-youve-heard-people-say-abo-1851722056/slides/2

[sly elk]

to be fair, apple gives you 8gb ram for the cpu and gpu and it's shared

or at least they did lol

[hazy frost]

To be fair atl it’s usable for what the devices end up being used for

[dire viper]

thats so real

ppl hate on commuters when commuters are the coolest thing when modded

people ADORE the old diesel mercedes

and they were all commuters

slow as balls, super fuel efficient

this one is also so real

this is why the 300SL became such an icon

it was fuel injected in the 50's

first production car with fuel injection iirc?

@sly elk

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/RDVeMsGR_LY?si=72NK95umkYklX-o- this is the kind of sleeper we love to see

@potent arrow when we doing a sleeper wagon bestie

It’s so awesome that stock BMW engines from back then are fine with 200-300 horsepower more than stock, reliably

Oh even cooler

Incredibly creative engineering on the charged air

They’re using the water/air intercooler for the intake off of a G80 M3

So it’s extremely efficient and keeps power reliable

Crazy, 500+ horsepower on a stock engine with a supercharger and intercooler added, when stock the engine made around 240hp

Germans with their crazy tuning and engineering

[solid dirge]

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-confirms-geforce-rtx-5090-with-32gb-gddr7-memory-5080-and-5070-series-listed-as-well

Someone did a whoopsie..

TL;DR looks like 50xx series announcing next month

5070-5090 base versions + 5070ti and 5090D

[paper tusk]

kinda worst kept secret at this point. only question is how awful will the pricing be?

I'm starting to think my upgrade will be down to a 5700 and a 8800xt, depending on the street price at micro center

making the assumption that msrp AIO's will sell out yesterday

[dire viper]

NVIDIA so bad

They got apple tier pricing

I know the chips are insanely expensive to make and so are the boards but

How tf Intel price gapping them

https://youtube.com/shorts/oZljvEfMrlU?si=_em7cnmblpbt64wy

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/lvRtGwsZwhY?si=uj3aXHCE4qoSJdPF

[sly elk]

that it was. in 1958 chrysler added it to the 300d (which was also unibody, so that was cool I guess)
meanwhile chevy introduced the x frame

i like how cars up until the 80s would brag about it in badges

[dire viper]

oh u wanna know something funny

[dire viper]

one of my coworkers has a 1 of 2 chrysler at his second job

[sly elk]

this one's sick

[dire viper]

i forgot what model it is but its a 69

only 2 were built

special engine configuration only used on those 2 cars

[sly elk]

fun

[dire viper]

so it went from being a 90k car to being valued by RM Sothebys at 670k

[sly elk]

car dudes get funny about that sometimes

[dire viper]

for a chrysler

[sly elk]

the 1 of 2/3/128 builds

"this one's got the blue cloth seats, the manual, and the optional passenger side mirror! They only built 3 like this!"

[dire viper]

oh no it is actually unique, not Corvette "unique"

[sly elk]

oho jhehehe

[dire viper]

the reason its so much is because even if its 1 of 2

its the only one in existence

other one is gone

his buddy bought it for 20k

like 10 years ago lmao

spent 40-50k total on it since then restoring it to make sure it was perfect, and he didnt even know it was special until last friday

so crazy return on investment

[sly elk]

gg

[dire viper]

oh also yea

fuel injected cars from the 50's and 60's be expensive af

cause like

they were the only ones that didnt get affected by temperature (to an extent) or altitude

so a 300SL was literally the best cross country car

meanwhile bendix "Electrojector" shit was ass

cause the "computer" (probably witch craft) that controlled it was ass

The Bendix Electrojector is an electronically controlled manifold injection (EFI) system developed and made by Bendix Corporation. In 1957, American Motors (AMC) offered the Electrojector as an option in some of their cars; Chrysler followed in 1958. However, it proved to be an unreliable system that was soon replaced by conventional carburetors. The Electrojector patents were then sold to German car component supplier Bosch, who developed the Electrojector into a functioning system, the Bosch D-Jetronic, introduced in 1967.

god engineers ARE right

Americans invent something and its shit, the germans refine it but its super expensive, and the japanese make it cheap via mass production

[paper tusk]

yes they will be limited by their own ethernet hardware (as opposed to the switch/router, or isp connection)

max concurrent connections will depend on the router

[sly elk]

tbh if you want 5gb internet just get it and see what happens lol

but yea i think if you have 5gbit you want a router that gives you sfp wan and sfp lan!

[wild wyvern]

@real edge https://czone.my/czone/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6600-8gb-eagle.html

suprisingly after some digging around i found an rx 6600

[royal forge]

Lads, a WD Green HDD should be good enough for image storage and reference right?

No vids or playback, just large amount of images

[wild wyvern]

thats on stock

[real edge]

you're sacrificing around 400myr for about 20% less performance

whether thats worth the reduced cost is up to you

you still get FSR and frame generation

if you care about those techs

[sly elk]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42432494

belter

Klarna CEO: Company stopped hiring because AI 'can do all of the jobs'

Hacker News · Dec 16, 2024, 4:25 PM

[real edge]

I thought that that was a misleading headline

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/hakase-shinonome-sakamoto-nichijou-anime-laugh-gif-10418499809068244924

[wild wyvern]

but if u buy it online

its gonna take long to arrive

[sly elk]

that ceo definitely smells his own farts

[real edge]

that is a misleading headline im sure

[sly elk]

https://archive.ph/DG7Jf

[real edge]

depends on your countrys logistics

keep in mind that price to performance is up to each individual

you get a 30% decreased price

with 20% decreased performance

[sly elk]

crypto bs is back up and ai is hot af

good luck getting a new gpu

[real edge]

have you looked up the rx 7600 online to see whether or not you can find it for cheaper than 1300?

[sly elk]

then again, i haven't seen gpu prices go up any so maybe

[real edge]

have u also looked up the rx 6600

online

[wild wyvern]

nah

[real edge]

I would suggest doing so

because your budget is limited

[wild wyvern]

i dont think its gonna be there

[real edge]

your money is not infinite

u need to save as much as you can

while not falling for scams

[real edge]

if you did not look it up then how do you know

search on shoppee and lazada

when on a limited budget u need to hunt for deals

to get more out of your limited budget

[wild wyvern]

7600 is expensive

theres alot of diff prices

buts its def higher than 1300

[real edge]

you're looking locally

shoppee is the amazon of SEA

you basically already know that given that you are from there

did u look it up?

[wild wyvern]

yes

[real edge]

and its all higher?

[wild wyvern]

yea

[real edge]

then its up to you whether or not 30% less price for 20% less performance is worth it

thats like

90$ less

for 20% less performance

which is ehhhh

depends on your budget

[wild wyvern]

3k is too much already tbh

[real edge]

600usd is less than the norm for a massive pc upgrade like what you're doing

[wild wyvern]

hmmmmm

maybe

[real edge]

you're upgrading everything

so ofc its gonna cost some money

[wild wyvern]

i wanted to keep using my rx580 tho

[real edge]

literally everything lol

[wild wyvern]

my psu aint changing haha

[real edge]

rx580 does not have satisfactory performance anymore

ofc your mileage may vary

[wild wyvern]

right

[real edge]

the rx580 has 30% less performance than my 1070 did and I changed my 1070 because it did not get a stable 60fps in games anymore

[wild wyvern]

o see

well i might change all

[real edge]

well, at 1440p

but still

ull be blown out of the water by the increased performance of your PC

5700x and 7600 are more than twice as good as your old system

[real edge]

search up used 6800XT

but only USED

and see what comes up

might be too expensive

but you never know

not new but used, cause new is too expensive

but u might be able to find a cheap used one if you are lucky

[wild wyvern]

oooooooo

but im not gonna game at 1440p lol

[real edge]

still

twice as good or more

ull notice

a huge improvement

guaranteed

look forward to it

👍

[wild wyvern]

wtf

all stupid stuffs came up wehn i searched 6800xt used

@real edge

doesnt even show 6800xt

[real edge]

ohh lol

wtf

[wild wyvern]

told you sometimes shopee is really a mess

@real edgehttps://www.carousell.com.my/p/asrock-steel-legend-oc-rx-7600-1279306942/?t-id=w_MKHE1Wc5_1734427524233&t-referrer_browse_type=search_results&t-referrer_page_type=search&t-referrer_request_id=cKkIWytBrP16Eup5&t-referrer_search_query=7600&t-referrer_search_query_source=direct_search&t-referrer_sort_by=popular&t-tap_index=3

[real edge]

1100 myr

for 7600

looks good

[wild wyvern]

but nah

303mm

my case cant support a 3 fan

[real edge]

that price is really good tho

such a shame

[wild wyvern]

my case is an tecware nexus m2

[real edge]

-mini tower

bruh

[wild wyvern]

mines an nexus air m2

or an nexus m2

[real edge]

-300mm

gpu support

[wild wyvern]

@real edgeidk if mines nexus m2 or air m2

[real edge]

card is 303

mini towers suck for space reasons

only good if uve got limited space in your apartment

[wild wyvern]

wait

https://www.tecware.co/nexusairm2 this is my case

[real edge]

ye

[wild wyvern]

cant be helped

[real edge]

300mm gpu clearance

[wild wyvern]

my table aint big too

[real edge]

that model is 303mm

[wild wyvern]

yea

[real edge]

the card

[potent arrow]

oi leave my SFF alone

[real edge]

ask the seller if they have a smaller model of the 7600

and if they would be willing to part from it for a similar price

[wild wyvern]

i need to sign in lol

[real edge]

the seller does not have any contact details?

[wild wyvern]

only 1 7600

[wild wyvern]

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/sapphire-nitro-oc-rx-6600-xt-8gb-1321628186/?t-id=w_MKHE1Wc5_1734427524233&t-referrer_browse_type=seller&t-referrer_page_type=profile&t-referrer_request_id=VK7ZzukonfIigYzs&t-tap_index=2 how about 6600xt

[real edge]

better

the 6600xt

is 8% worse than the 7600

instead of 21% like the 6600

[wild wyvern]

but maybe no warranty

xD

[real edge]

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/asus-rog-strix-radeon™-rx-6700-xt-oc-edition-12gb-1341684066/?t-id=gt_FCYn_S5_1734427994886&t-product_id=1341684066&t-referrer_browse_type=item_item_rec&t-referrer_page_type=listing_page&t-referrer_product_id=1341642163&t-referrer_rec_source=inhouse&t-referrer_request_id=tvW0Jscz1gDB9yL-&t-referrer_source=listing_page&t-tap_index=3

[wild wyvern]

its 3 fan and i cant fit it for sure

and i dont want far places

[wild wyvern]

i dont trust carousell cuz its all no warranty for sure

[real edge]

well it looks like facebook marketplace

so thats to be expected

[wild wyvern]

either way

i think i will go for 7600

[real edge]

that 6600xt deal looks neat

[wild wyvern]

but i gotta upgrade my pc first tho

[real edge]

how much did you say the 5700x3d was

[wild wyvern]

for which

[real edge]

https://www.carousell.com.my/p/amd-ryzen-7-5700x3d-v-cache-gaming-processor-for-pc-am4-motherboard-1337343880/?t-id=gt_FCYn_S5_1734427994886&t-product_id=1337343880&t-referrer_browse_type=item_item_rec&t-referrer_page_type=listing_page&t-referrer_product_id=1321628186&t-referrer_rec_source=inhouse&t-referrer_request_id=oImB46WxbFuaUht1&t-referrer_source=listing_page&t-tap_index=22

I found this

[wild wyvern]

1099

[real edge]

tho idk how trustworthy that site is

[wild wyvern]

myr 1099 for r7 5700x3d

[real edge]

says rm 770 for me

[wild wyvern]

https://www.allithypermarket.com.my/products/amd-ryzen-7-5700x-5800x-am4-processor-8-cores-16-threads-amd-ryzen-7-5000-series?variant=45079299981540

[real edge]

or is rm and myr different

[wild wyvern]

i searched here

the carousell one is 770 yeah

[real edge]

seems like the seller also supports a meet-up

[wild wyvern]

is 1099 myr worth it for an x3d chip?

[real edge]

X3D chips are really good

source: I have an x3d chip

but

the 770 myr one seems good

1100 is pricey

but 770myr is also lower than it costs in my country

which is sketch

but who knows

[wild wyvern]

idk tbh

[potent arrow]

what's carouselle and why is the site blocked on my phone's policies lol

[real edge]

it looks like a ripoff of facebook marketplace

[potent arrow]

hmm

wonder why it's caught in my blocklist

[real edge]

basically ppl put their listings of various things in it

for prices and etc

@sharp star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBW_3tArLOY

[sharp star]

tl;dw yes

[real edge]

basically if you have it installed theres no hit but if u enable the overlay theres a dip

but

if you turn off the game filters and photo mode

theres little to no hit even if u have it installed but disable the overlay and filters

is what he found out

weird

[potent arrow]

not really

overlays are always fucked

doesn't matter what year or what app

discord overlay? fucked fps drops and game crashes
Old Nvidia overlay? fucked, goodbye fps and Ansel blowing up your game
etc

[wild wyvern]

idk what to do

i want the 7600 but its sooo expensive

[royal forge]

My work PC is so fucking shit

It takes me 5 minutes (really 5 minutes) to log into our hospital's website for patients

It took me so long to search for a patient that i got LOGGED OUT FOR INACTIVITY

And my staff get upset at me cuz I refuse to use the shitty website interface

[wild wyvern]

💀

[wild wyvern]

soo wdy think?

[real edge]

of what

[wild wyvern]

the 7600+ 5700x combo

[wild wyvern]

@real edge

i dont think im gonna go for the x3d ver

[real edge]

5700x + 7600 is a good combo

[wild wyvern]

but that acer gpu doesnt seem too good

crashes alot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr3G92A1z_8

[hazy frost]

It’s probably the worst one u can buy of all the 7600 models

It’s not unusable tho

[cerulean talon]

Ooooh. Another ubiquiti sale.

Dream walls are on sale. Nice.

[sly elk]

i still never installed the poe doorbell I bought from them >>

[cerulean talon]

I got a second one, and need a 3rd. >.>

This house has too many doors. xD

[sly elk]

tempted to grab the not-poe doorbell and try my luck with it

[cerulean talon]

My roomie wanted to do the full door access hub, and I'm like "bruh, wut."

[sly elk]

lol

they did sell a deadbolt

[cerulean talon]

He wanted to go full mag locks/etc.

And it's just "Wait what"

[wraith agate]

Damn, full mag locks?

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, my roomie and I are kinda nuts. 😄

I've got the electricans here today to drop me a 100A subpanel and 3 30a twist locks for the garage racks.

Gonna be so nice to have server racks up properly.

[celest violet]

Shadow gens runs like shit after the dlc update, although i cant remember if ive played since I reinstalled my os

[drowsy star]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1869099929416949959?s=61&t=l_Qlm2fpgoZeFpyKbe7Q-Q

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

more Nvidia RTX 5090, 5080, 5070 Ti and 5070 leaks. The next-gen GPUs will reportedly debut with new "neural rendering capabilities" that promise to “revolutionize how graphics are processed and displayed” https://t.co/9ABTOzkTKh

Twitter · Dec 17, 2024, 7:18 PM

[hazy frost]

They made the GPUs AI oh noe

It’s over

This is looking a lot less significant than 30 to 40 series was anyway

[odd sand]

AKA even more of your frames will be made up garbage

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/GdrBc4Dm0lM?si=R8yHlWZ8cFnBdK7U

[eternal zinc]

everyone sees nvidia stock price and now they wan a piece of the pie

[wild wyvern]

nvidia is just too overpriced for me

[earnest sedge]

Boight myself an external ssd

1TB

[wide hill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMwXJsMfIQ

[odd sand]

My coworker being Captain Obvious again
"Yeah, I've been working on a dashboard for that on the side."
"Okay great, but please make sure to prioritize tickets and dev work first."

...That's why it's on the side.

[sly elk]

NO! NO EXTRA WORK! TICKETS FIRST!

lol

[dire viper]

Is the link in the cyberattacks to do with created/intentional vulnerabilities or is it simply that the information is easy as fuck to acquire about them meaning attacks are obviously going to be much more elevated

I know two Korean companies just got fucked because they put baked in DDOS capabilities into hardware

[sly elk]

sheesh i already told ya about that

huzzah

my stuff is all nsa approved ubiquiti gear

[cerulean talon]

Oh hey, it's Ice!

So, I just got 90A of 208 pulled for my server racks. We're gonna have a good time soon for the gear. xD

[sly elk]

except for the amcrest cameras

replacing those gives me a stomach ache

since even the cheapest ubiquiti cameras are $100

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, UI cameras are spicy expensive.

[sly elk]

and the worst part is they aren't worth it lol

[cerulean talon]

They need a solid sale on them.

[sly elk]

everything i've read about tem

the image quality is mid, and they like to leak water in

[cerulean talon]

I like them, but they're nothing giga-special other than integrating well with UI.

[sly elk]

and the bullets have condensation issues

and afaik the instant/flex are buggy

though maybe that's just a problem with the g4 instant and not the g5 flex

[sly elk]

which cameras do you have?

i have a g4 pro and a g4 poe doorbell I need to get around to putting up lol

[cerulean talon]

Mix of 3/4's, haven't set them up here yet.

[sly elk]

i set all my amcrest cams up with my nvr pro and have been loving that shit

spending $900 on a box to hold a week or two of video is painful but

scratch that, it's got 3 weeks of video stored

anyway, compare to the pain in the ass of pulling video files from the sd cards on the cameras, it's so awesome lol

the only archiving system I've seen that compares is google nest's archiving system and that is the only good thing about using google nest cams

everything else about them sucks

including the $15/mo bill, the bizarre mounting/power setup they use, the poor wifi reception some models have, and that you can't have a live local view

and that afaik is the next best thing

[cerulean talon]

Square gives me such a headache with their data formatting.

[sly elk]

i think all the other iot/cloud/"smart" camera systems only support using a phone to access the video

[cerulean talon]

Ring used to have some okay web-access.

But it's been awhile, I moved everything to my ui gear in the old house.

[sly elk]

UI is a touch better in the interfacing department but they still do odd stuff

like they don't seem to make a single good camera mount lol

i think that was why people fell in love with the turret cameras so quickly

from poking at that g4 poe doorbell pro all I can say about their mounting solution is

DUDE WTF

WHAT IS THIS SHIT

[cerulean talon]

I mean, the doorbell isn't bad.

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, it's the same as a ring for the most part.

[sly elk]

you're pretty much expected to cut a giant hole in the wall

unless you buy one of the adapters

[cerulean talon]

It's designed to fit over junction boxes. xD

[sly elk]

tell me

[cerulean talon]

It's not designed well for legacy installs, it's good for new construction and revamps.

[sly elk]

where have you ever seen them use a junction box for a doorbell lol

pretty much every house i've lived in including the newest ones had a hole in the wall just big enough for the wire running through it

this house is fucked though

[cerulean talon]

My place in vegas didn't have the doorbell facing out where it could see anything so we just took construction adhesive and just glued the mount in.

[sly elk]

there's a wall switch wall plate embedded in the stucco

[cerulean talon]

Then took a half inch drillbit and rammed it straight through the stucco

[sly elk]

no box or anything lmao

and the way the original doorbell was secured? They used really long screws to dig into .. I think the drywall on the othre side?

[royal forge]

HOW THE FUCK FO YOU SCREW UP A UI SO BADLY

[cerulean talon]

Pretty easily

Also, that's not auctualy a UI issue, but a rendering issue. xD