technology-discussion

[modest moss]

about as helpful as the FFXIV generic directx error message

[late basalt]

So I’m like “is the battery dead already?” But thankfully it started fine after a minute or two

I’m not looking forward to having to suss out any electrical gremlins if it comes to that

[sly elk]

that's a weird one

[modest moss]

a while back our car wasn't starting too well, we were told to replace the battery, helped for a while and then it started again and it turned out the alternator was fucked and killing batteries

technology sucks

return to horses

[late basalt]

Ironically the odb2 reader I’ve got is able to test batteries and alternators, and they checked out fine

Battery’s not even a year old too

[modest moss]

maybe you'll be lucky and it's just a car equivalent of that random bsod you get that never happens again

[late basalt]

Oh I’m hoping that’s the case

[dire viper]

@sly elk welp

the very first Aston martin Valkyrie Spider is in Utah

mr supercar ron has it

aka the guy I hate

Kinda cool tho

they have a full factory team of Aston Martin techs to deliver it

https://youtu.be/5kRcIBv6XMw?si=koXDzt_hqsBd2-40

Manny Khoshbin was the first owner but he never took delivery so it sat in the UK until Ron bought it

I hate Manny Khoshbin

He is gods worst car owner

he ONLY owns cars to resell

he has to use fake names or proxy buyers to buy cars now cause the factories wont let him buy anymore cause he just flips limited edition cars non stop

[devout sluice]

Finally moving all my home lab stuff out of our closet just sitting on shelves and doing a proper set up

[dire viper]

[late basalt]

@dire viperhttps://youtube.com/shorts/xDkBcY1Ij8k?si=pBJxq5MNLeHe_ov6

dude's fuckin funny with these

[dire viper]

yes

Mazda is awesome

[late basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pjriSAQe06c bwahahaha

[sly elk]

i don't understand it anyway

it would be like as if rolex made a smartwatch

and it had 2 oled screens

so that when you flipped it over you could 'see the mechanism move'

and they added a haptic ticking sound to it

[dire viper]

lmao

yea i dont get modern things either

BMW removed all the BMW out of their car

the V8 and V10 cars were rowdy as fuck

https://youtu.be/EbVILYSzPCc?si=WHJ9mG3SUJaulMvL

like a mid size luxury sedan that will do burn outs until the tires fall off or the coolant boils and your engine blows up

[mortal condor]

https://youtu.be/5k0EQn67lGo?si=84fMvU3wuX0G8Uuj

[heady relic]

anyone able to help someone get a computer? my threshold is around 1k for what i'm willing to spend on one, but it can go a little higher, i'd like to try buying from walmart but am open to other sites/places, i know literally nothing on computer part lingo, it's an entirely other language to me. i want to get the best for what i can at a grand or so (i am not really open to building but if its to get the best of what i can get, so be it)

sorry if it's vague, as i said, i don't know a lot

[golden stream]

Ye?
Pls state what would you do on a PC (gaming only or vid editing or whatnot) because it will affect the spec

And uh, I'm assuming that you're trying to get before late Jan?

[heady relic]

gaming, ye, maybe college stuff, but gaming is the priority 100 percent

[heady relic]

between now and then, yeah, just trying to get ideas right now

[golden stream]

Any other requirement as well? Like college program niche (LateX or R or whatever it would be)?

[heady relic]

no clue as of now, let's just stick to gaming

[golden stream]

Aye aye

Ok one last question: do you dare to buy secondhand parts in the future to upgrade your PC?

I ask that so just in case your current budget is a bit tight, I could see if any within budget but a bit weaker side, and you can upgrade it by yourself later on in the future, dw assembling PC is like expensive lego lol

[heady relic]

no, this money i've received as of recently is going to probably be the largest amount of money i'll ever get at once, and it's around 4 times as much than the 1 grand i'm limiting myself to, but i also need that money for other things, i probably won't be able to scrounge up the money just to get specific parts again

[golden stream]

Ah ic

Just the PC or any other things, like monitor or periperals like mouse, keyboard, controller?

[heady relic]

already have those

though if you're curious, my monitor is 144hz

[golden stream]

Oh

Lemme scout if there's any prebuilt ones within budget

[heady relic]

alright

i know 1 grand won't be the best, and it won't last forever especially because of me not planning on buying parts in the future

i just always remember specifically walmart never having the best gaming computers especially for what they're priced at

as i said my threshold is around a grand, but it does have a little wiggle room

i just want the best i can get for around that much.

or atleast somethin that can run 14 very well that isn't a supercomputer. my plan is pretty much to have an ff14 machine. i've never really had the money to buy other games up until now, and i know the games that release nowadays are crazy graphically intense that probably won't bode well with the price i'm settling at. crazy? yeah... but it's what i want. i play on PS5, but console is very limiting, and i want to be able to use other things, like mods and stuff

[golden stream]

Ok so
I'm looking at bestbuy atm, aiming for the current acceptable-ish and longer term build
1k is like hard limit or can you overbudget like a hundo or two? Because that's what I've found, most stuff are 1.200-ish

not include blackfriday/cybermonday sale price ofc

[heady relic]

i can do around that, yeah

i wouldn't know if the best buys i have would have it

they also aren't the best rated...

[golden stream]

Anywau, I found a few, but better ask Hank and the other to double check
All comes with 4070 btw

Bestbuy:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yeyian-tanto-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-7-5700-nvidia-rtx-4070-16gb-memory-1tb-ssd-nvme-gen-4-0-black/6604925.p?skuId=6604925
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yeyian-phoenix-iron-mesh-gaming-desktop-intel-i5-14400f-nvidia-rtx-4070-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-nvme-gen-4-0-black/6600360.p?skuId=6600360
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-predator-orion-5000-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-13700f-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-2tb-gen-4-ssd-black/6557514.p?skuId=6557514
(Clearance sale iirc, $900) https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer-predator-orion-5000-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-13700f-32gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-1tb-gen-4-ssd-black/6557512.p?skuId=6557512

Microcenter:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/685407/minisforum-atomman-g7-ti-se-gaming-mini-pc

[heady relic]

thanks :D

[golden stream]

The very cap is $1300 pretax (idk how US calc tax ngl)

[heady relic]

all of these are sold out or unavailable except for the yeyian

[golden stream]

Oh

[heady relic]

and the microcenter is available too

yeyian looks the funkiest so it must be good xD

[golden stream]

Well it's rather fine, the specs are ok, just the sus name

But the lower price may have some less quality parts but you can upgrade it gradually so it should be fineTM

Like parts with $200 price tag or under

[heady relic]

hmm

my friend said a 4070 is like 600 alone

i dunno how true that is though

[golden stream]

That huh, kinda true

[heady relic]

i showed them though and they said it's solid and for that price its very good

i know i'm askin you and all and suddenly showing them but they were someone i also went to computers to, but they have been out of the loop from what theyve said

[golden stream]

Lemme check price at microcenter

He's quite correct, at microcenter the 4070 is ~500 for like, the cheapest one

Usually ~600 price range

So a bit explain on those builds I showed you
It's 4070, so it will have at least enough power to pust 144Hz monitor
And also DDR5 memory platform, easier to upgrade later on

[heady relic]

interesting

i think it's settled then :O i might just go with this honestly

he praised it as well

[golden stream]

When Hank or Sarah is up, as em about the builds, they may find some other deals as well

[heady relic]

what we're looking at can like, easily crush this right? that's really my main concern

[golden stream]

And also ask em if they know any blackfriday/cybermonday deals

[golden stream]

OH LOL it's totally fineeeee

I thought you aim for Monster Hunter Wild

[heady relic]

lol no

but i mean, i'll easily take what the best my money can get

as i've said

[golden stream]

My laptop with 4060 can run XIV on custom high almost max lol

Yeah that's the best bang for the buck, and close futureproof

[heady relic]

growing up i've never had the best computer in the house. every computer we've had was junk. one of my dreams has always been to treat myself with a good computer that can play my fav game the best it can

[golden stream]

Eh you can not think about upgrade it in like two years, or at least a year

[heady relic]

thats the leeway before i should consider upgrading?

[golden stream]

Yup

[heady relic]

...what if i dont

[golden stream]

You still can leave it there, it should run just fine for 5 years

[heady relic]

and i don't mean ignoring it, but more as like, yknow, not buying the new iphone or samsung every year, that kind of upgrading

[golden stream]

Oh lol nah not that sort

[heady relic]

i mean i'd be fine, right

gotcha

[golden stream]

Upgrading here means adding more storage or replacing memory stick, to be a bit more, heck even can replace CPU or GPU

[heady relic]

ye ye

[golden stream]

A bit like ship of Theseus

[heady relic]

xD

[golden stream]

That's the best thing I could think tho

[heady relic]

well i think for what i'm making my spending limit it'll probably be the best

[golden stream]

Yeah, it should game just fine for at least 5 years

[heady relic]

but just making sure, like, it would easily cover ff14 in terms of performance and stuff, right?

[golden stream]

Yes

[heady relic]

awesome

[golden stream]

And beefier games as well

[heady relic]

as i've said i don't know whack about computer stuff

[golden stream]

So, GO HAM

[heady relic]

:D

thanks so much again

if i decide to get a pc, 99 percent it will be this

[golden stream]

Oh, there's a thing about those builds, that you may encounter running out of storage to install games
At that point, just buy SATA cable and m.2 SSD, ideally 1TB or more, you'll be just fine

[heady relic]

oh pfft, ff14 is tiny, and as i said, it'd probably be all i play for the most part

[golden stream]

speaking of PC, I should get a cheap case and repurpose my old build to be minecraft machine for my cousins

Yup, now enjoy it in max

[heady relic]

i just don't know at this point if i should pick the steam version or squares launcher version whatever its called

[golden stream]

Oh

[heady relic]

i had a very crappy laptop at one point and had steam on it, and almost everyday people would try logging into my account and stuff, and in general i really wasn't a fan of steam

[golden stream]

Recommend the square enix version aka the web version

It's more about, if steam is down for maintenance, xiv will be down as well even though people are still playing it

[heady relic]

the hell

[golden stream]

Authentication of steam version is via steam

[heady relic]

now that's dumb

[golden stream]

It's archaic japanese system, don't ask lol

[heady relic]

definitely going with the square version then

is squares also just yknow

better with mods... or

[golden stream]

Oh shh I'mm dm you

[heady relic]

[golden stream]

We don't talk of dark art in hereTM

[heady relic]

i see it talked about here all the time but alas

sent ya a friend request

[golden stream]

Anyway
My relative tossed me their iphone (old iphone btw, I resetted so no prob)
And from a long term android user, I FRICKIN HATE IT, app restriction, hella slow

At least I can use it as vtuber face capture and garageband machine

[devout sluice]

Yes app restrictions but the amount of times I’ve listened to my wife complain about her android while my iPhone just continues to work year after year is hilarious

[sly elk]

how old is your iphone?

i've had 5 iphones and 4 android phones lol

[golden stream]

.....iphone 16 max pro

[sly elk]

ah i was wondering how old aurora's phone is

since it's working year after year :3

[golden stream]

Just because it wasn't match their fav color

Oh

My granny and gramp have iphone, 6 btw, still work

For basic old people, ye it's fine

Facebook would lag tho and same to their usual message app

However, some old or very old apple products are p hard to recycle/repurpose

My old iphone 5s can't do anything nowaday man

[sly elk]

perhaps i'm not creative enough but I can't imagine a good use for a clapped out phone/tablet, especially if it has a 5 year old lithium polymer battery

especially because a lot of the 'recycle an old tablet/phone!' things involve leaving it plugged in all the time, which does wonderful things to clapped out lithium polymer batteries like turn them into spicy pillows

[golden stream]

Second screen for laptop does wonder ngl

There are some weird jank projects like camera or whatnot, I'd like one for 3d printing

[sly elk]

https://old.reddit.com/r/macsetups/comments/1grgyah/mac_mini_display_maxi/

i am amused by the pairing 😄

[golden stream]

That's actually lovely tho

[sly elk]

i do think closing my folding phone is as satisfying as closing clamshell phones used to be

except those were spring loaded

but the fold4 still has a satisfying clack

also the $199 sony xm4s are back on amazon

[velvet flint]

give me suggestions for webcam

I'm going to use it for a online class but am considering using the webcam for later stuff like content creation or vtubing

[golden stream]

Uhhhh webcam huh
The basic logitech something something

[sly elk]

yea seriously just get a regular webcam, and when you feel the need to upgrade, then do it

[golden stream]

Vtubing, any phone should be fine (iphone preferred bc face tracking)

[copper monolith]

So I've been having the blue screen every once in a while. I suspected its the motherboard cus I had to move around my headset audio jack before I can have it connected and when that happens the ethernet cablle also diconnedted

i cant have my headset cable around at all cus i will discinnect easily

happedn to other audio devices not jsut oen headset

[lost python]

whats the error message you are getting during the bluescreen?

[copper monolith]

a sec

this morning this screen showed up as soon as i turned my 3rd display

i disconnected it after that

but still got it

i tot it was the display but nope

but then i realized ive been having audio jack+ ethernet cable disconnecting

so instead of ram it could be the mobo

[lost python]

so, depending on how you move the cables they randomly disconnect for you?

[copper monolith]

not really its like when I accidentally pulled it a bit

and when i try to reconnect it again it takes time

it keeps dcing

over adn over

every sec

while trying to move around the audio jack

it dced my ethernet cable

and bsod happens randomly

[lost python]

does this happen with a different pair of headphones too? because if yes, then it sounds like you may have damaged ports on the mobo, which could indeed cause all sorts of issues including bluescreens

[copper monolith]

but this morning it happens after i turn on my 3rd display

yes

oooo

i suspected that too

[lost python]

if you have a front panel connector, you should try using that and see if it helps. otherwise it may be time for a replacement

[copper monolith]

front one also has the same issue

apparently

with all audio devices

[lost python]

now that would be weird because the front panel uses entirely different connectors

[copper monolith]

yea

i ahve 2 ramstick

should i test one by one

[lost python]

could be worth a try

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0kEB-1MIc lmao

[devout sluice]

Uhhh it’s a 12

I was on an android, and then T-Mobile deactivated the 4g frequency it used so I was stuck on edge, then went back to iPhone

[kindred brook]

https://youtu.be/qY0kEB-1MIc?si=sxvdSI5n6uLSdNAA

[copper monolith]

its one of the ram

[kindred brook]

oh

you posted it already

KEK

I didn't notice

haha

[dire viper]

BMW 850CSi and the McLaren F1 might as well be the same car /s

[sly elk]

https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024

it's an interesting list because it doesn't really correlate with any other list lol

and it's more of a "the 23 cars picked by the most dangerous drivers on the road" list

[spring raven]

honestly surprised the only Nissan on the list is the versa tbh

I feel like at least half the Altima drivers I see are downright insane

[hazy frost]

Amusing number of American muscle and SUVs

Tbf two types of cars people buy and then aren’t able to drive safely often for various reasons

[odd sand]

For when a 5gbe firewall just isn't enough:
https://www.ispsupplies.com/MikroTik-CCR2004-1G-2XS-PCIe

[hazy frost]

5’1 person driving full size SUV that can’t see over the steering wheel

[delicate robin]

Im gonna have a heartattack with the way my pc is pissing me off

MF just turns off by itself

[sharp star]

https://bsyy.app/profile/swiftonsecurity.com/post/3lazjr7j6fs2j

[solid panther]

Oh good, my new oled monitor has a 3 year burn in warranty

which is fine cause Id probably replace it after 3 years anyway

also I just saw a 49 inch monitor and im terrified

[sly elk]

because it's only an altima

the older ones weigh like 3200lbs and the 2024s weigh 3500lbs

while they're on the long side, they are fairly light and nimble afaik

it's kinda the same reason why bmw drivers drive like assholes

tbh if i had to make a rough guess at why altimas have the reputation they do

it's probably subtle/implied racism

the same reason domestic cars normally have a bad rep

but somehow toyota camrys never have a bad rep

even though it's hard to think of the last time i saw a camry that didn't have some kinda body damage

[hazy frost]

It’s bc they’re cheap and easy to get one from Nissan or were atl while still being fairly quick so they were dangerous in a lot of people’s hands. Also a super cheap used car for what it is to this day

Bc u could get the 3.5l v6 in them which when the car is dirt cheap attracts idiots

Kind of the same as the infiniti G35 which uses that engine as well iirc

Bought and driven by idiots generally

[hazy frost]

Also slower and more expensive again

I think even new the Camry was like almost $10k more than the Altima lol

[sly elk]

the camry with a v6 is not slow, but still expensive

fair

[dire viper]

Camry TRD is the biggest ricer maybe

[sly elk]

https://old.reddit.com/r/battlestations/comments/1gs0au5/home_office_2024_refreshing_with_a_few_new_diy/

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/lCnGxF_4qZo?si=C_QZiBjwwu7UV6zp @potent arrow buy one of these

[cold yacht]

This probably go crazy in pc cafes

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zue30tcu0mY

[heady relic]

is this worth $650?

walmart sells it for $650 and sony sells it for $1k

[sly elk]

huh no probably not

[real edge]

27 inch 4k display does not really look amazing

at 4k you want 32 inch

[heady relic]

how much would that be

i really want a sturdy monitor like the one i sent

i would link my current monitor but i forgot what it is

[real edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbMfDFq4loo

if you want 4k

[heady relic]

[real edge]

hm?

lots of options there both LED and LCD

[heady relic]

idk. sorry

im wanting to get nice stuff for my first pc its just a lot to take in

[real edge]

ive never heard of the sony one being recommended anywhere

for pc gaming

[heady relic]

i wanted it for my ps originally

i cant think of anything else

[real edge]

well

whats your budget

[heady relic]

maybe like.. up to 500

or up to what that other monitor is like 600

i don't really want a fancy flashy monitor with glowing lights and stuff. i just want a plain monitor that performs really well

i dont know

[real edge]

[heady relic]

my current monitor isnt sturdy at all

[real edge]

preferred resolution

[heady relic]

i have to use a gpu brace just to keep it from tilting

[real edge]

AOC has like, an oled thats like 600$ 1440p

if you want the best your budget can get

thats it I think

[heady relic]

can you link it?

i can also send you the pc i'm planning on getting that could help pick a monitor idk

[real edge]

sec

[heady relic]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yeyian-phoenix-iron-mesh-gaming-desktop-intel-i5-14400f-nvidia-rtx-4070-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-nvme-gen-4-0-black/6600360.p?skuId=6600360

[real edge]

however

keep in mind

oleds need constant care

if you want an LCD instead I can recommend you an lcd display

[heady relic]

how do you mean constant care

making sure something isnt not moving for a long time and all?

[real edge]

monitor will need to have its oled care features ran every so often (couple of hours) and the less static stuff you have on your display, the better

LCD is far less hassle

but oled is better if you take care of it

what do you want

[heady relic]

i make sure to keep care of all my things but even that might be too much

[real edge]

do you think you can care for the oled or do you want a hassle-free lcd

[heady relic]

is there an LCD version?

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn AOC Q27G3XMN

1440p 27 inch display

unless you want a 4k display

[heady relic]

i'm not sure

[real edge]

also you can get a better PC than this one for the same money if you buy the parts seperately yourself and take it to some local mom and pop pc repair shop to build it for you

[heady relic]

i'm okay

[real edge]

better value, better parts

and still a prebuilt

cause s1 else builds it for you

[heady relic]

i think i'm just going to go with the monitor i sent because i still plan on using my ps

[real edge]

the sony one aint good

ive never seen it

thats not a good sign

[heady relic]

i don't know what else to do

[real edge]

I gave you a video with a bunch of displays, I gave you an oled and another more budget friendly but great LCD one, just buy one of those or watch the video and buy one of those, not a sony one ive never heard of b4 lol

[heady relic]

yeah and that's a lot of pressure for someone just entering pc stuff for the first time

i'm aware i asked for help but even i'm not sure

[real edge]

just choose one monitor within your budget that I recommended or that is recommended in the video I linked and buy it, it will most likely be great

every half decent display is sturdy

[heady relic]

i can try finding my monitor so you can see it if you want

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/cIOt1W4HIu8?si=2Sj1UkeGkZPgY19d

[real edge]

ur gonna buy a new one tho, right?

[heady relic]

yes...

i can't find it

[real edge]

if you cant find it then a new one will be a night and day difference, tho

you can google the model name

and find it... unless its some no-name from a decade ago

[heady relic]

i can't find the listing i got it from before

[real edge]

or sth

[heady relic]

there are like dozens of these that look the exact same but are different models

its an LG monitor

144hz

[real edge]

there are a lot of those indeed haha

[heady relic]

[real edge]

[heady relic]

can resolution impact framerate

[real edge]

yes

[heady relic]

so for something like 14?

[sly elk]

whoa you're not pushing that one monitor anymore o_O

gigabyte m27q?

[heady relic]

?

[real edge]

ffxiv is cpu-bound

but resolution still impacts framerate

[heady relic]

i'm watching the video

[real edge]

4k is the most demanding resolution

but can look the best

[heady relic]

i don't want something that could limit framerate

[real edge]

1440p is the most common

[heady relic]

that sounds like something i'd be more after

for 14

[real edge]

grab this one

for 1440p

its like 400$

[heady relic]

says 280$

the screen in its video looks so dark though

i'm not a fan of the tilting either

[real edge]

huh?

tilting is just customization lol

you can just leave it be

[heady relic]

i know but it's just going to bother me

i know its what every monitor has nowadays

[real edge]

you can just leave it be

[heady relic]

would the screen actually look like that irl

[real edge]

my display has tilt and pivot and its staying perfectly still

[real edge]

you can adjust the brightness of the display

at any time

if its too dark just increase the brightness

problem fixed

[heady relic]

well duh but it just looks really bad in the vid

[real edge]

cause its just one video lol

280$ is a steal for that kind of quality

[heady relic]

the amazon listing says frequently returned item

it is also loaded with ai art

[real edge]

just buy it lol

its great

every monitor is frequently returned

because ppl nitpick the hell out of em when they get them cause they want the perfect display

Gigabyte M27QA

theres also this one

[sly elk]

if it makes ya feel any better, most of my screens were fine

[real edge]

same

[heady relic]

one of the 1 star reviews is a dude watching House with the screen flickering

lmfao

[sly elk]

lol

[heady relic]

but

fine

i'll bite the bullet

[real edge]

amazon has a 14 day return policy

[heady relic]

i'm sure it's better than what i have right now anyway

[real edge]

you can always return it

[heady relic]

ya

[real edge]

if u have issues with it

also works for consoles

[heady relic]

i wanted to get that other monitor because it's intended for playstation

which is what i was going to use it for

as i was originally going to get the ps5 pro

and then i backtracked on that to get the pc instead and have my current ps5 hooked up to it as well so it still has its intended purpose

[real edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P4FVnp as for PC, get this and have your local pc repair shop build it for you

site tells you where to buy them

[heady relic]

the case is out of stock

i just want to buy it prebuilt...

[real edge]

this IS a prebuilt lol

[heady relic]

i can always buy new parts later

[real edge]

if you have s1 build it for you

same thing

you are just choosing the parts yourself

[sly elk]

then get a different case

[real edge]

prebuilds suck

[sly elk]

shit i thougt those were $50 lol

get yourself a case you like

you don't want an eyesore cuz you'll be seeing that shit every day for the next 5-10 years depending on what you do with it

[real edge]

whether you get a prebuilt or pick the parts yourself and have s1 else build it for you is the same thing, you get it built for you

[sly elk]

yes and

more importantly

you can make sure you get the good stuff you want

[heady relic]

i just want to buy the prebuilt

[sly elk]

those prebuilts tend to use cheapy motherboards and power supplies

[real edge]

prebuilts use crappy parts to save for cost

and their cases are usually dogshit

that suffocate the PC

[sly elk]

also the warranty tends to suck

like buying $2000 of computer and getting a 1 year warranty smh

[heady relic]

i really don't want to be thinking this right now because i was so deadset on getting this pc

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/renge-shrug-non-non-biyori-idk-duck-face-gif-9724581

[heady relic]

i've had multiple people say it was good

[sly elk]

then just buy the prebuilt and that $650 sony monitor i guess

let's see

[real edge]

they probably looked at the specs and did not bother to see anything else

[heady relic]

i just sent the pc to see if it could aid looking for a monitor

[sly elk]

1199 for an i5 1440f, b670m motherboard, 4070, 32gb ddr5 6000 ram, 1tb nvme

[heady relic]

i didnt send it to get other pc recommendations

now i'm uncertain if i should even buy it at this point

[sly elk]

eh it's

the only 2 problems I really see with it are the 1 year warranty and who the heck makes the power supply

looks like that brand uses regular motherboards/gpus

[heady relic]

[sly elk]

wut

[heady relic]

i don't know

[sly elk]

you just do you lol it's fine

[heady relic]

is it okay

for what i want to do with it

i.e. just play 14

[sly elk]

at least you're not buying one of those weird dells/alienwares with the freaky motherboard and power supply 😄

[heady relic]

maybe a few other things

is it okay for that

is it overkill for 14 at all

because ive been told that

[sly elk]

i don't think it's overkill

[heady relic]

for 14

[real edge]

I think its a normal PC

[sly elk]

also I think the build nhadala linked in pcpartpicker is probably a little tiny bit faster

4070 vs 4070 super

[real edge]

the super is quite a bit faster yeah

[sly elk]

intel 1440f vs amd 7600 probably leans towards the 7600 too lol

the power supply in nahdala's build is a really good one as well

motherboard is probably the same product line, looking at what the prebuilt company uses

[heady relic]

if i were to buy everything from nhadalas build

would it all arrive at the same time?

since it would all be in the same cart

or no

[sly elk]

oh wow wtf

[heady relic]

i didn't want to buy parts because i don't want everything to arrive separately and i don't know how to build and i don't know anything about parts

[sly elk]

it's using a tiny air cooler :3

that pcpartpicker is using amazon for everything except the case

[heady relic]

i don't understand

[sly elk]

the list of parts, all of the links are to product page son amazon

[heady relic]

yes

[sly elk]

for me I think all of those would be delivered tomorrow morning

except the case, which I'd pick something else anyway

[heady relic]

i really wish i didn't link the pc i wanted to buy

[sly elk]

ehh

you did ok?

[heady relic]

viy helped me

[sly elk]

nobody here is gonna be like

YOU IDIOT BUYING A PREBUILT!

[heady relic]

i just wanted something that could run 14 well

[sly elk]

i get it

[heady relic]

can it run 14 well?

[sly elk]

and it will run 14 well

aaand

[heady relic]

how well

[sly elk]

if you're afraid, I don't blame you

how well? I'm not sure! If you were using a 2560x1440 monitor i'd assume you'll be very happy with it

[heady relic]

the monitor the other guy sent?

its 2560x1440

are you refering to that

[sly elk]

yep

[heady relic]

[sly elk]

if you're primarily using it for gaming, then 27" 2560x1440 is good

[heady relic]

i'll get the monitor

[real edge]

the only thing ull have to do when you get it is to to your display settings on windows and set your refresh rate to the maximum it can go

[sly elk]

if you're buying the computer from best buy

-goes to look at what best buy has for monitors-

[heady relic]

i haven't used windows in almost a decade

[real edge]

right click on your desktop -> display settings -> scroll down and click advanced display settings -> scroll down to where it says refresh rate -> click on the dropdown box -> choose the highest number

[heady relic]

i will try to remember that

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoutsukai-ni-narenakatta-onnanoko-no-hanashi-the-stories-of-girls-who-couldn't-be-magicians-project-anima-anime-mahonare-gif-9312480599377400762

[heady relic]

will i be able to have the framerate really high and stuff for 14 with this pc i want?

[real edge]

I think so

and if u remember to increase the refresh rate ull see the massive benefit of it

[heady relic]

ye

it will be a while

i'm waiting to get my money cleared so i can actually use it to buy stuff

the earliest i can i'm buying the pc

and it will probably be here on the first few days of december

or available for pickup from bestbuy rather

and i'll buy the monitor you sent as well

just to make sure, this is the monitor right? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C8ZJKPWC?tag=rtings-mn-p-amazon-20&ie=UTF8&th=1

i'm just making sure since its the amazon listing from the site

i don't want to get the wrong one on accident

[real edge]

thats the one yeah

[heady relic]

it's settled then

that's the one i'll get

i know me not following what you recommend for a pc won't benefit me at all

but i wasn't intending on getting pc recommendations as i said

i'm sure when the time comes i'll be able to get better stuff for it if i want to

but for right now that's just what i want to get for a pc

do you think its fine nhadala? if i dont do anything else?

[real edge]

yeah just make sure to remember to set the refresh-rate and thats it I think, and if using it for your PS5, set it to 120hz mode cause the ps5 supports that

massive difference

👍

[heady relic]

will it be able to be on 120hz mode all the time?

or however high it can be all the time?

[golden stream]

Oh, I pointed to him to some prebuilt bc idk price in US tho, and also the possible of more expensive parts and whatnot after next year Jan

[real edge]

yeah

[heady relic]

[golden stream]

Displays can be as high all the time as far as you set it to be like dat

Like my laptop can push 144 but I set it to 60 for the sake of battery when not gaming lol

[heady relic]

alright, i'll get it, i know i keep saying it but i just wanna say it one more time because im just that kind of person ty for the help, im gonna stop talking about it now or im just gonna keep saying the same thing over and over and worry

[real edge]

ive been in the tech space for so long I sometimes forget how difficult and worrying it is for newcomers

[heady relic]

idk if i can get the pc in time before it goes back to 1400 but i dont care. i'll get that and the monitor ordered if time and money allows

but that's all

[heady relic]

[modern iris]

Hi guys, I have a question for you Xbox series X players - right now I have maybe a two week old series X and I have an Onn 4K TV that supports HDR10. Tonight as I was downloading mods for Skyrim on the Xbox, it crashed twice in a 10 minute period. Could HDR10 be causing this? TIA

[real edge]

xbox crashing while downloading mods

huh

were you just downloading or were you playing at the same time

or were you playing a modded game

[heady relic]

@real edge does the monitor have a warranty?

i found this vid on it

https://youtu.be/Nw0a3dTyYtc

[real edge]

3 years

warranty

[heady relic]

cool

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn heres a more detailed review as well

[heady relic]

there isn't any difference between the dudes link and the link you sent me with the vid i sent right?

in terms of what i'd be buying

[real edge]

no

[heady relic]

i'm aware his is probably an affiliate link

alright

his only gripe was he doesn't like the menu nav

and personally i prefer buttons

(i hate the joystick on my monitor)

so good for me

gonna shut up bout it now

[real edge]

[shadow oracle]

Bought printer
open it up
roaches

Why are poeple like this

It's going in the fucking bin cos I'm not dealing with German roaches

[copper monolith]

This shit happened to my work pc

The pc struggled to load folders even with just 2 files in it

I tried everything then I saw a sussy ass colorful unfamiliar icon on my window panel

Uninstalled it and I solved the issue

Wtf is this copilot shit

[odd sand]

Belated response but IMHO it's because they don't hold their value, so they often show up for sale at places like JD Byrider and independent used car lots. So they're driven by people who've already made enough shit life choices to not be trusted with a real car loan and/or are poor and that's all they can afford. Combined with living in places with only street parking, or very packed parking lots, so they get their shit dinged easily and have lots of speed bumps to go over; leading to dead shocks etc.

[odd sand]

Didn't you hear? chatbots AI will solve all your problems in life!

(Too many people speed through the poorer neighborhoods in town here, so they have speed humps every 50-100m on some of the roads, and the parking lots for the apartment complexes will have multiple speed bumps in them as well)

When I did delivery I'd see people fly over them at like 25mph when they were designed for like 10mph. Crazy nutters, no wonder their shocks are bottomed out eventually.

[copper monolith]

I guess it ok for Microsoft to sneakily made ppl downloading an AI program thru windows update

Thats so dumb

Well at least it let me remove it

[odd sand]

It's one of the reasons I use the Pro version, because I can delay updates for like 6 weeks I think it is, so I don't have to suffer through the buggy ones. And I do registry edits to disable shit like Copilot, Cortana, etc.

[sly elk]

Why do you and gramps seem to think rich people are good drivers? XD

I keep seeing this

having more money does not make you a better driver

[odd sand]

No, but it does mean you'll take the insurance hit and get the damage fixed 🤷‍♀️

[sly elk]

true lol

if you park your altima in the street and have liability-only insurance

and you wake up and find some random stranger smashed your bumper

welp

[odd sand]

IMHO there's also a difference between dangerous driving and people getting car dmg from neglect/sloppy driving

[sly elk]

heh

admittedly my oldest bro made a couple boo boos on the family car (the one who drives) and I didn't bother getting them fixed

[odd sand]

Like the idiots that try to park and scuff their bumper/rear quarter

[sly elk]

i should get him a nissan altima :3

[odd sand]

Or that change lanes without checking their blindspot and hit someone while lazy drifting into the next lane etc.

Or the ones that almost pit you because they suddenly decide they need to turn RIGHT NOW

[sly elk]

a bad driver never misses their turn

[odd sand]

And cut across multiple lanes and/or cut you off to take an immediate turn in town

That's the sorta shit you don't see the BMW drivers doing

They're not gonna use a turn signal, but they generally are aware cars are there or not /s

[sly elk]

idk you do kinda see it sometimes

so today

i was driving in the 2nd-from-right lane down a street and this dude in a bmw pulls out and makes a right turn... into my lane....

in a way that I had to brake

i don't see iit as much anymore but bmw drivers earned their stereotype LOL

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/car-tricks-swag-gif-10372174

[lost python]

damn

[hazy frost]

I wish there were more tests at 1440p or 4K bc like that’s where people with this amount of money are playing games usually

And it does still make a difference at 1440p atl

[modern iris]

Sorry, I passed out before seeing this. For Skyrim, you can't even play while you're in Creation Club - however, I'm also getting crashes randomly while playing FFXIV, so it's not just isolated to one game.

[pine thistle]

I see that thinking I was free from this by staying on win10 was a mistake

[golden stream]

Oh ye, stealth update on w10

W7 and w8 are ded so um....

[hazy frost]

Can get rid of it but it’s more annoying than it should be

You’ll find a few results if u look it up anyway

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/lfkFBSDFDGY?si=kfRWTccHycbXxM5M

[pine thistle]

ofc, but I'd prefer if it didnt pin itself in the first place

[hazy frost]

No cheap 996 will be as shit in a good way as the TDC one

https://youtu.be/PNy3xcuJOJQ?si=Ijs_CQy_MavE56Xq

But then the gearbox had major issues and now they’re spending almost as much as they bought it for finding a replacement lol

The amount Porsche want for a gearbox for these is incredible

[late basalt]

https://supercarblondie.com/lifetime-warranties-keep-womans-car-going-for-500000-miles/

[dire viper]

Real

[odd sand]

They explain why it's @ 1080p (often low) for these tests: So it's a pure test of the CPUs raw power. The higher the res, the less work the CPU has to do, ironically enough. So the more it leans on the GPU instead of the CPU. The FPS spread will be smaller between CPUs at 1440p and 4K. Although 4X games where it has a lot of data to crunch to simulate turns, it would still likely matter.

[odd sand]

I hope she wasn't 90 and still driving...

[hazy frost]

yes i know why they do it but its also not at all a real world scenario to have it in so they rly should do more at higher resolution

number of people will be buying x3d cpus for their 4070. 4080 or 4090 rigs for 1440p

they shouldnt stop the 1080p testing but there should be more of other stuff too

the difference isnt even similar at all at 1440p or 4K in practice

[odd sand]

There are other people who do 1440p and 4K benchmarks though...

[hazy frost]

not a lot who do

toms hardware suite is terrible bc it includes games that really like 3d v cache that skews it

[odd sand]

I don't understand when the video is intended to test the processing chops of the CPU, you're expecting them to be concerned about how it operates with a GPU.

[hazy frost]

why would anyone want to know how a cpu operates in a realistic scenario for gaming...

idk

especially a cpu meant for gaming

if it was for the other cpus id care less but realistically people are using this at higher res

[lost python]

there is absolutely no point in testing for cpu performance in a gpu limited scenario

[hazy frost]

its not gpu limited tho

[odd sand]

Generally speaking, if you have a CPU newer than 5 years old and your question is should I upgrade on 1440p or 4K monitors. The answer is: No.

[hazy frost]

1440p still has cpu limited games

[hazy frost]

1440p thats just wrong

[lost python]

and they dont perform any different at 1440p vs 1080p if they are cpu limited, so i dont see your point

[odd sand]

https://youtu.be/5GIvrMWzr9k?t=337

[lost python]

ironically hardware unboxed adressed exactly that on twitter too
https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1856103764505309230

Hardware Unboxed (@HardwareUnboxed) on X

"I just want to see how it performs at 4K, is there a difference"

Unaware one persons 4K is not another persons 4K.

- If you game at 4K and require 60 fps, for the most part you need not worry about CPU performance, at least the best of the best type performance.
- If you game

Twitter · Nov 11, 2024, 10:36 PM

[odd sand]

Beat you by 10 seconds!

[lost python]

https://x.com/GamersNexus/status/1856429571228184621

GamersNexus (@GamersNexus) on X

@HardwareUnboxed 1080p Stellaris - 25.8 seconds
Native 4K Stellaris - 25.8 seconds

^ This is another consideration. Games like Factorio, Stellaris, Galactic Civilizations IV, and other simulation-heavy games will not even deviate at "4K," not to mention all the other reasons.

Twitter · Nov 12, 2024, 8:11 PM

[hazy frost]

ur using games that support ur own points and not the a ctual trend there

ofc stellaris is

[odd sand]

I'm glad he did a video just to prove it out, but yeah there is a reason the first thing all of the reviewers did were 1080 comparisons. They're not all just crazy/wrong. That said, while I don't think a 4K benchmark being first is a good thing, eventually having a followup with at least a few 1440p and 4K benchmarks I think is perfectly acceptable.

[dire viper]

I think 1440p is more reasonable than 4k

Wanting 4k means constantly updating your hardware

[dire viper]

Holy moly

141 1% lows

[hazy frost]

see big difference and the x3d still provides an advantage

[dire viper]

what is be the pointless argument today

[odd sand]

(Although Baldurs Gate seems to be an anomaly where the 9800X3D is lightyears ahead of the others for some reason, as per GN's testing)

And I didn't say there would be no diff at 1440p, just that going 1080 >> 1440 >> 4K the FPS benefits would shrink each time. So the 1080 results can still be indicative of if it's worthwhile.

[hazy frost]

well no the 1080 results arent good then if the results shrink

[sly elk]

lifetime warranty parts

[hazy frost]

looking good at 1080 doesnt matter if it shrinks to a 5% diff from 30% its not worth it at all

[odd sand]

That is entirely my point...

4K is 4x the pixels pushed as 1080, so theoretically the benefits at 4K will be reduced by 75%. So if it was 30% ahead at 1080p, it is probably about 7.5% ahead at 4K

[hazy frost]

no u just said 1080 is still a good indicator

[odd sand]

I'm saying you can use the data to extrapolate 1440 and 4K performance. If the 1080 already doesn't seem to be worthwhile, then 1440 and 4K definitely won't be either, is another way to look at it.

[hazy frost]

unfortunately it doesnt just scale like that

[dire viper]

this is stupid

[odd sand]

🤷‍♀️

[dire viper]

this makes sense

outliers can happen but generally it should be declining performance going up in resolution or suddenly the world doesnt make sense anymore and all is lost

[hazy frost]

ofc it always goes down question is by how much which does differ by game

[hollow beacon]

I craft White Wizard’s soul glass

[cerulean talon]

Racks always start so lovely, then they slowly devolve into horrors beyond imagination.

[sly elk]

advice from someone who's made this mistake before... please take the feet off and put a pool noodle around the bottom front edge

definitely bashed my head on the bottom of one of those fuckers at work before >>

[odd sand]

Could we store all anime ever made in HQ on one of these? /s

https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/new-magnetic-tape-delivers-a-record-580tb-storage-capacity

[uncut cape]

rate my gaming/programming setup

(and yes this is an extension cable, the electric plug next to my PC is linked to the AC meaning if I connect my PC there everything breaks)

[cerulean talon]

Nothing like poppin breakers while compiling code.

[copper monolith]

So I had a blue screen that says "memory management" tested both my ram sticks. One gave me a constant blue screen and one was ok. So I thought it was that one ramstick. Been doing fine for almost 2 days until just now when I tried to turn off the pc it gave me the memory management blue screen again

Is this because I'm currently using one 8gb nemory stick?

Or this ramstick also has issues

Buying a new one in 2 weeks tho

[devout sluice]

It isn't low enough even for me to bonk my head on it and I'm the tallest one here

And the feet are just in there so I don't lose them

But you know what I am FUCKING PISSED about. I got the Kasa smart wall outlet, cause I have a couple of their power strips and you can monitor energy usage on each plug and I wanted to monitor the power usage on my rack

Just finished getting everything wired up and connected, add the outlet to the Kasa app, which I only did now cause ya know, my wifi has been offline all afternoon, only to find out the wall outlet DOESN'T DO THIS

[sly elk]

oh yea lol

i tried a couple of tp link outlets

the outdoor one works great for my christmas lights

but i tried these tapo indoor ones and was hella disappointed with them and switched to wiz plugs lol 😄

the indoor ones kept whining about the wifi signal

[devout sluice]

Don’t even care if it doesn’t have a wifi signal now seeing as it’s not going to do what I want anyway

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgTFZKN_hwU

the best looking imac g3s hehe

man I haven't seen kde that old in forever

[copper monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/918563812620259348/1307671299606188082/image.png?ex=673b274d&is=6739d5cd&hm=91165ddf5b573ace2f8e00c4cb82d009034894ed12db8bac276f1dc611d7f1f2&

[devout sluice]

Just waiting on replacement side/front panels to arrive cause they got damaged in transit, so the company is sending replacements, and they’re sending me a free patch panel, then I can tidy up all the wiring

[agile sun]

hello i have computer monitor question

does scenery, standard, theater, or game mode setting have the most accurate color settings

pls and thank

[hazy frost]

Entirely dependant on what monitor it is

Different for every model which ones best

[devout sluice]

You can get a 12U wall mount from sysracks also

I don't think venting will be an issues, there's a grid on the top, I can't see the bottom of that one though

If there's no gris at the bottom then venting the hot air out the bottom might be an issue

Oooh yeah. I just got their 15U, it's 24"

I would rather vent the hot air up also

[potent arrow]

seems fine ice

[potent arrow]

any server fan is going to beuch more powerful then convection lol

ice

ya in vancouver

open marketplace

[devout sluice]

If there's no venting out the bottom of the vertical rack then all the hot air will just get trapped in there, that's the only issue I see

[potent arrow]

tech city

there's gonna be a fuck ton of cheap racks

ice

are you insne lol

I'm calling Vancouver a tech city

just look up server rack

[potent arrow]

if you are worth a grain of salt in the rack industry ya will have venting, and here's the bottom

[devout sluice]

Ok I missed that picture

I mean it should work then

[potent arrow]

most

just poke around you'll find one

[devout sluice]

Yeah full size racks are easy to find, once you try to go outside that it turns in to an adventure

That's why I ended up buying a new one, I couldn't find a wall mount rack big enough. Everyone is selling like little mini network wall mount cabinets

You don't need a cabinet unless you want one

Helps with dust a bit

What server have you got?

[potent arrow]

meanwhile all of my racks are behind a freezer in my parents basement deck screws to the wall

through the bottom plate

[devout sluice]

Nice

Cost?

[devout sluice]

I saw a trick once where someone had their stuff mounted to the wall in their basement, and it was basically a giant heat sink

Which is awesome...if I had a basement

[dire viper]

Fish tank!

Half rack half fish

Tropical fish so you can use the heat to warm the tank

[devout sluice]

You can pick up refurb HP enterprise servers on Amazon for like $400, 2 X 24 core CPU, 6 X 600gb SAS drives, ~200Gb of RAM. I'm using one at work, and I really want to use one at home but the noise and power consumption...

[potent arrow]

gm Christian

[dire viper]

My breakfast is 4 Olive Garden breadsticks

https://youtu.be/fPu_JT27Grs?si=rqouws92qg-ZuLOv

factory big wing elantra is so wild

Hyundai has been dominating TCR tho so

[devout sluice]

This is the one I picked up https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V9JSV1W/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I actually need something like this for my NAS:

https://www.theserverstore.com/supermicro-12x-bay-2u-plex-media-server-sas3

But fuck me
2x 1000W 80+ Platinum Power Supplies Installed, (PWS-1K02A-1R)

[odd sand]

Once you buy a rack, then you need stuff to fill it -- Slippery Slope! /s

[devout sluice]

LOL right

[odd sand]

Get like an Ubiquiti cloud gateway and dream machine, etc.

So I'm gonna stick with this to pair with the 2.5gbe mikrotik switch I bought as well:
https://mikrotik.com/product/rb5009ug_s_in

Original idea was to have my homelab server be the router with opensense, but it's from 2013 so it would be a lot of power/noise to keep running all the time

[devout sluice]

A friend and I were just talking about how any time something in our lab breaks, we curse ourselves that we're not the kind of people that can just get a shitty ISP router and carry on with our lives

[odd sand]

The irony is a lot of this stuff isn't even that much more expensive than the bling consumer stuff

[devout sluice]

Ew nest

[odd sand]

That router is $220 and I got the Ubiquiti AP for $120. $180 for the TP link deco or netgear nighthawk router. So yeah it's slightly under twice the cost per se, but works far better than either of those or the provided combo modem

I imagine your floors are mostly wood/fwood and not carpet?

That's the one nice thing about carpet is it's easy to hide cable in the corners then along the trim

Might want to get a few of these for areas you really want it to blend and doesn't need a long run:

[modern iris]

so it feels kinda weird to think that in the 1990s, computers cost a small fortune. And now you can get one with your groceries at Walmart for under $700.

[odd sand]

Pull the trim off the wall at the spot and make the smallest hole you can to only fit the cable and crimp it afterwards. Or pull off a wall outlet and drill inside the wall if you can get a telescopic drill

[devout sluice]

This is a fucking pain, speaking from experience

The drilling

And I only had to drill through 1 stud when I did it

[odd sand]

Yeah I remember the cheapest computer in the 90s was like $999 for the cheapest mac or like compaq, which inflation calc says would be about $2200 today.

My dad in hindsight was crazy and bought us a Powermac in 1996 for I think $3400 after tax and warranty etc. And we were not a wealthy family ever

Oh, you're just gonna carve a hole in the wall. Okay.

[devout sluice]

One of my fav photos is this one of IBM's 5mb hard drive being transported by plane

[sly elk]

PAN AMERICAN

[devout sluice]

Yep

1956

Now we can carry terrabytes in our pockets

Wild

[sly elk]

the janky ass looking forklift

[odd sand]

Madness. Around the same time I built a P2-300 for like $1200 I think.

[sly elk]

i like thinking about how my watch probably has a more powerful cpu than my 2001 desktop did

[devout sluice]

Forklift is also facing the wrong way just btw...

[sly elk]

and how we got to the point that SoCs are so cheap that they just use em for hard drive controllers lmao

so you can run linux on a hard drive >>

[odd sand]

I think it was the FPS podcast that mentioned the Nintendo alarm clock toy has like 200x the processing power of an early 90s computer.

(They were memeing about if it could play Doom etc.)

[sly elk]

yea it begins to make you wonder what a computer even is

https://tenor.com/view/computer-whats-a-computer-tablet-gif-11564169

[devout sluice]

You know what freaks me out

[sly elk]

i can plug a monitor/keyboard/mouse into my phone and it works the same as a computer

[devout sluice]

I work with schools, and the tech guys I talk to there tell me there's kids now that don't know what a file system is

O.o

[sly elk]

yea there's some theory that on average

[devout sluice]

Like if you want these kids to navigate around in file explorere, they DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS

[sly elk]

that tech literacy went up... and then back down lol

[devout sluice]

Well everything is self contained apps now

[sly elk]

so some people are complaining that they have to fix their parents' & kids' computers

[devout sluice]

It's gonna get worse with AI, a lot worse

[sly elk]

lol some point people forget how to make stuff

[odd sand]

Google says P2 was 250nm litho and most stuff today has an average litho of 10nm (That toy is probably 14nm tho)

[sly elk]

honestly i still think that companies are overselling/overhyping it

even if it gets so good that you can just have the PMs write down what they want and the computer makes it for them

we already had "draw pretty pictures and the computer turns it into software for you"

[devout sluice]

Also, I know people always joke about how the world is like idocracy, but I think we are actually going to get exponentially dumber now. Cause everyone is going to use AI to write their emails or document stuff etc, then someone else will going to use AI to translate it for them, and we're all going to lose our communication skills, critical thinking etc

[sly elk]

LOL

[dire viper]

I dont think everybody will

[sly elk]

the only problem with that is AI is uh

[dire viper]

cause most people dont even know what AI actually is

[sly elk]

I'm kinda judgey about how people write things

[dire viper]

imagine explaining the concept of AI to a secretary at like a lumber company

AI doesnt have nuance or context

[devout sluice]

Well yeah everything takes time to filter down

That secretary has an iphone now

[dire viper]

its really easy to tell when suddenly someone else is writing

[sly elk]

also

it writes like a fortune 500 executive

[dire viper]

LMAO

yea

[sly elk]

why the fuck does this need 5 paragraphs to explain something that could be written in 2 sentences?

[dire viper]

yea

thats the main deal

[potent arrow]

I just use chat got to check for grammar and rewrite stuff

[dire viper]

context

[devout sluice]

You can still tell when it's AI, cause it doesn't really talk like a normal person would...yet

[potent arrow]

cause I write probally a billion ticket responses a day lmfao

[dire viper]

sarah we gotta have a talk...

[devout sluice]

This is why I'm convinced all the Amazon support reps are actually just AI bots, they don't talk to you like human beings

And they're incredibly dumb

[sly elk]

no amazon actually does have ai bots now

and it tells you when you're talking to a bot

do you ever get someone whose name just seems really fake though?

[devout sluice]

Nope I;m convinced even when you're talking to an "agent" it's just AI

[dire viper]

well yea who do you think the agent is?

[potent arrow]

absolutely nothing wrong with typing a paragraph and putting it into gpt to rephrase and grammar/spelling check

[devout sluice]

Yeah but those agents are supposed to be people

[dire viper]

minimum pay person whos english is dog doo doo

[odd sand]

Supposedly 250nm was about 180k transistors per 1mm^2, and 10nm from Nvidia had 44.5 MILLION transistors per 1mm^2

[dire viper]

cause english usually isnt their first language

because english is dog shit

[sly elk]

minimum pay in india

[potent arrow]

probably saves me hours a day writing customer updates

[dire viper]

english is the definition of pidgin language

[odd sand]

They probably have a hybrid system where it starts with the chatbot, and a person "subs in" depending on certain keywords or maybe if it takes long enough

[dire viper]

minus the benefits of a pidgin language

[sly elk]

you know what english is?

[potent arrow]

making chat come up with original works tho....

[sly elk]

english is the microsoft windows 11 of languages

[dire viper]

sarah get on league

[sly elk]

it's "the standard" but it's bullshit and does everything weird and backwards compared to all the other languages

[potent arrow]

no

[dire viper]

what was the story based AI thing that ppl would use for smut

[potent arrow]

I'm working lol

[odd sand]

Also those sorts of call centers are almost certainly overseas and they have a manager breathing down their neck to follow the flowchart exactly

[sly elk]

also amazon AI == actual indian 😄

[odd sand]

Yeah, there are a lot of people that post AI stories in Japanese on Pixiv as well. Makes me wonder like... why?

[dire viper]

the japanese are brain rotted

[odd sand]

Nah, I think the AI cash registers were farmed out to the Phillippines was it?

[sly elk]

i mean

i wanna go hang out at a shrine and look at pretty cherry blossoms or something idk

https://tenor.com/view/cherry-blossom-tree-gif-23699022

[odd sand]

The one thing about Japan that I always have a bit of culture clash over is how they froth at the mouth over online piracy. It's like: It's gonna happen no matter what. Also at the start of their stories they always have warnings that it's fiction and not about any person in particular, provide trigger warnings etc. then apologize profusely about the poor prose heh

[modern iris]

can't stop the signal baby

[odd sand]

I think it's good they try to always ask if they can riff on someone elses ideas I guess, but I think they take it a bit too far.

[sly elk]

some of their artists take the whole copyright thing a bit far

[modern iris]

errr, I mean like for emulation. I always buy my manga/anime.

[sly elk]

like there's a studio ghibli musician iirc that is like

don't even try to play my music it's mine

don't

[odd sand]

Also how they act like their shit don't stink when the first p2p app everyone used was like winny/winmx etc. which was created by a Japanese person heh

[sly elk]

dude's probably gonna hire nintendo's lawyers if he sees someone cover it on youtube

[modern iris]

Didn't Miyazaki mail Disney a katana to get them to not fuck with his movies?

[sly elk]

it sometimes seems like they shoot themselves in the foot over merch

like they won't license their ip out

because they want creative direction over the merch

[odd sand]

Yeah I always meme that Japan hates money. They never release the stuff that will REALLY sell

[sly elk]

and then they go make something and sell like 5 of them in an exclusive shop in japan

and then find out americans want it

so they make 3 more to sell at a pop-up shop in los angeles

and 9235825 people show up and get angry

[modern iris]

Like the Doman Mahjong set?

Or Haru's shirt from Pokemon Concierge.

[sly elk]

it's pretty funny

[odd sand]

Although anime/manga is kinda both at the same time: They immediately release a flood of 300 little buttons and keychains and other worthless junk, but the scale figs etc. always take a year to announce.

Japan loves "limited edition" it's just a thing and I guess they don't understand others just want the thing they don't care about LE lol

[sly elk]

hehehee

yes the animate store here is like

[modern iris]

Yeah, probably why they're the way they are about mythical Pokemon.

[odd sand]

Or rather, in the West limited edition tends to be time-based, whereas in Japan it's quantity-based

[sly elk]

75% plastic sheets

ahem 'acrylic standees'

[odd sand]

I think that's in part bc people can't afford the figs anymore

[sly elk]

to be fair, ASUS believes this as well

i can't wait to see what the next fanbase they fuck over with a limited edition is

[odd sand]

150:1 has led to new 1/7 being like 25-33k yen now. Living in Japan how do you afford that?

So instead they release a bunch of acrylics people can get for 800-2000 yen

[modern iris]

25-33k yen is still a lot, right? Let me check what that is in EagleBux.

Jesus, $200 for.. figurines?

[odd sand]

I have like half a dozen of them, they are very high detail but yeah...

Although the last time I bought they were more like $120-160 USD

[modern iris]

So does the limited edition mentality explain why they make mythical Pokemon such a pain in the ass to get?

[odd sand]

It depends on if they're a 1/8 or 1/7 and what size the character is. There are some larger 1/7 where they have like a flowing cloak and large weapon etc. that can be like 9 inches cubed

[modern iris]

No no, I'm talking about in the games. Like why they don't just let you catch the damn things in the game and you have to get it with a movie ticket or go to the store in Tokyo/Sapporo/Hokkaido/etc.

In terms of merch there's some amazing stuff that's Japan exclusive. Like I think they had a replica of Haru's shirt from Concierge and it wasn't sold at the US store.

[sly elk]

yea that's the kinda thing i was complaining about lol

it gets to the point where if you want a shirt or whatever from a particular series you have to buy something that isn't exactly kosher and the ip owner gets nothing lol

[modern iris]

Why are they so hesitant to give the rest of the world the same merch catalog?

It just comes off as odd.

I dunno, I'm not trying to be too bitchy today. Just give me the Doman Mahjong set that was on the JP Square shop and I'll be a happy woman.

[sly elk]

or at least make it not a huge pain in the ass to buy things from their jp store

[potent arrow]

@dire viper I'm gonna put a shirtless Messi livery on the civic

[dire viper]

so real

[sly elk]

hmm

[modern iris]

is that like putting waifus on your Forza car but with soccer players?

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-star-akira-kogami-anime-gif-8392848961148850912

[modern iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7xMgJedN2s

[hazy frost]

I have to imagine the market is still smaller in other countries for a lot of series

There’s some big series popular worldwide that it makes 0 sense to not sell the same stuff for tho

[sly elk]

man i know the current s class is considered blasphemy but

i do like that color

man that dashboard is not going to age well

[hazy frost]

I don’t think many luxury sedans age well

[sly elk]

yea idk

[hazy frost]

They try to look futuristic and fancy at the time which is never a good thing to try and do

Bc they’re always wrong

[sly elk]

the old one isn't exactly a masterpiece either

[hazy frost]

Yeah

Not my favourite

[sly elk]

but the cluster and the piano black in the new one looks like ass

[hazy frost]

I like the current 7 series interior

But it won’t age well either lol

[sly elk]

the panamera dashboard isn't bad

i still think the old ones were better though

[hazy frost]

Much nicer interior colour than cream or white lots of people have in luxury cars

[sly elk]

what do i think hmm

hmmm

i reminds me of the last gen s class haha

tbh i think those floating rectangle screens look ugly and cheap

[hazy frost]

The new 7 series is really nice but the exterior is super ugly

Aerodynamics of a brick

[sly elk]

i like the side profile but the front is ugly

it's like

:3 it's like they tried to imitate a chrysler 300 HAHAHAHA

like yes big expensive cars should be boxy duh

someone at bmw finally agreed

too bad they produced that

i

i'm not sure what's worse, the headlights or the grille

dude you could drop the last gen chevy silverado front end on that and it would fit lmao

[hazy frost]

I wonder what the new Toyota century is like

The SUV they made

The one they make already is nice

[sly elk]

i like these

[hazy frost]

They look good but square

[sly elk]

that's like a 1997 and it still looks great >>

[hazy frost]

The 2018 looks good still

Very similar

[sly elk]

i love them

it's like the only japanese car that doesn't look angry

aside from like the mazda miata

[hazy frost]

The interior is still nice on it as well

[sly elk]

idk what it is with people and angry cars lol

[hazy frost]

Inspired by the old one again

The 1990s one not the original

[sly elk]

ha

[hazy frost]

I mean that’s still aggressive

[sly elk]

it does have that funky tv thing