technology-discussion

[hazy frost]

i have the steelseries browns which im pretty sure are just gateron

[odd sand]

I have one of those for work and use the dampening membrane and use Epsilon switches which are progressive springs 45-69g and it's quieter and faster to type on than my browns that are 45g

Bc the dampener and weight on the frame squash most sound

If you want to get really excessive, they also make o-rings you can put on the stems between the keycaps and switches

[hazy frost]

my favourite quiet switches are the durock ones bc none are actually quiet so its down to the tone that u hear as well

the cheapest 'silent' switches are the akko fairy ones probably

idk if theyt make a keyboard with those tho

[odd sand]

So a bit of a shilling but yeah, if you want switches that are really good for typing fast, I recommend these + PBT keycaps:
https://zkeebs.com/products/lubed-filmed-prevail-epsilon-switches

You get the actuation at 45g, and a progressive spring that bottoms out at 68g, which helps rebound the keycap faster.

[hazy frost]

those are expensive lmao

£6 per switch isnt cheap

oh its 10

ehh

still double the price fo other good silent ones

and that wont be a sub $100 keyboard

its $60 for just switches for that in full size

[odd sand]

They're smaller quantity runs than the bigger names yes, but also probably better build quality

[hazy frost]

i recommend the akko ones bc u can get 135 for $40

[odd sand]

Considering what Razer and Logitech etc. charge for a "gamer keyboard"? That's not bad at all.

[hazy frost]

theyre not fancy but theyre quiet and durable

[odd sand]

I'm sure they're fine, they're just not in the same class of purchase that's all.

[hazy frost]

i know but they wanted a cheap keyboard not a $200+ one

[odd sand]

I bought them bc I'm typing on it for 8hrs a day for work, so I want something fast, solid, and comfortable

Oh I missed the start of the convo where they said that.

[hazy frost]

oh

fair enoughg

they are nice in a vacuum tho

[odd sand]

https://zkeebs.com/collections/switches/products/akko-v3-cream-yellow-pro-linear-switches

[hazy frost]

u can get the akko base and switches for about $100

[hazy frost]

https://en.akkogear.com/product/akko-v3-fairy-switch-silent45pcs/ id get these

https://en.akkogear.com/product/akko-v3-pro-penguin-switch-silent/

or these

depending on preference

silent tactile ones are funny

[odd sand]

I'd just make sure silent are what they really want. Go to an electronics store and try typing on silents first and make sure you like the feel

People meme on browns, but there's a reason they're the most popular.

[hazy frost]

i like browns

[odd sand]

They're considered "basic"

[hazy frost]

next keyboard i wanted durock lupines but money

£3 a switch again

[odd sand]

per switch??

[hazy frost]

per 10 again

its £5 cheapest atm actually

so i was probably gonna get milky yellows instead lol

though silent ones do tempt me whenever i have to actually type for extended periods now

[odd sand]

https://kineticlabs.com/switches/durock/durock-lupine-linear

[hazy frost]

i think silent switches are best bet for quiet keyboard at a low budget just bc other mods start to get expensive on regular linears for the same effect

[odd sand]

You could probably achieve a similar effect using o-rings and a bag of those is super cheap. Just annoying to put them all on.

[hazy frost]

yeah theyre good but idk what shipping and extra fees would be

[odd sand]

Or open up the keyboard and try to add a dampener membrane

[hazy frost]

getting keyboard stuff in the UK is more annoying than NA

EU in general tbh

[odd sand]

My friend is a keyboard nerd and has a giant comparmentalized tackle box of switches. He even has some that are metal housing with iridescent paint

[hazy frost]

lmao

box worth hundreds of dollars probably

ive been patiently waiting for mine to die to jusstify a $250 keyboard i want to build lol

[odd sand]

Over a thousand, easily. Especially with all the artisan keycaps he buys. Like the fancy Esc keys

[hazy frost]

oh yeah

keycaps i wanted were stupid expensive and sold out anyway

[odd sand]

Honestly if you want a good compromise, just get the hotswap aluminum bare model from keychron

[hazy frost]

£74 for base set

and numpad was £12 more

[odd sand]

I ordered the Dracula set with the keyboard and they took like 18 months to arrive due to covid

https://omnitype.com/products/gmk-dracula-v2-0-keycaps

[hazy frost]

honestly keycaps are a nightmare to get sometimes

these were my 1st choice

[odd sand]

lmao they even meme'd on how long it took:
https://omnitype.com/cdn/shop/files/GMK_Dracula_Sticker_Sheet_dist.png?v=1631302807

[hazy frost]

also ISO keycap sets are hell

[hazy frost]

lmao

[odd sand]

I even got some of the extra keycaps with the set, and at the end of the day still didn't have a right shift key that would fit the keyboard lol

[hazy frost]

GMK expensive

[odd sand]

Luckily the temp keys I got called Jomkey or something, had one that fit and looked like a reasonable match to the aesthetic

[sharp star]

Amazon hasn't charged my card yet so it's not locked in

[sly elk]

ahh i requested the strimer cable for review

[odd sand]

Unless you look really closely you'd never notice the icon for the right shift is different than the left

[sly elk]

i guess i can do a cool review of it vs the v2 i have

[hazy frost]

theres so many good off brand sets for most popular ones now

its quite convenient

[odd sand]

Honestly, for what they were, the Jomkeys were fine

[hazy frost]

tbh the off brand PBT sets are quite good for like $30 or whatever some cost

better than ABS anyway

[sly elk]

they are, aren't they?! Especially because every keyboard that tries to do something cool has some nonstandard keys somehow

[odd sand]

This is the temp set I had on it while waiting for the GMKs: https://www.amazon.com/JOMKIZ-Sublimation-Spacebar-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B09XDZ7SHC

[hazy frost]

lmao true

its ok if ur ansi as well tho

everyone else is crying

[sly elk]

i have a split keyboard

the spacebar is split into 4 keys

[hazy frost]

i love a good amazon PBT set

[sly elk]

afaik nobody makes keycaps in that size

[odd sand]

Also keycaps in general are more complicated than you think bc each row has a slightly different pitch

[sly elk]

true

[odd sand]

I have that problem on the keyboard as well that the pg up/down and home/end keys don't have a pitch gradient that fully works with the keyboard

[hazy frost]

imo now the only time the fancy brands are worth it is for specific designs

[sly elk]

ohh right you have one with the row on theside huh

[hazy frost]

bc otherwise the aliexpress/amazon ones are good quality

[odd sand]

So the pg up/down stick up slightly compared to the other keys, but it's fine bc it's on the side

[sly elk]

yes, but I want to use mine with my work computer, so it still has to be a reputable brand

or at least, one that I can make an argument for if I need to LOL

[hazy frost]

lol

i need a tkl keyboard next time

i havent used a numpad in years unless its a laptop

[odd sand]

I still like the numpad when typing IPs and such. Annoying without it, so I might actually buy a separate numpad still for work.

I like the 65, but feel like 70-75% is the sweet spot for me bc I feel like I'm short 1-2 keys

Although it would help if I flashed the firmware on it to add the alt-function for the side ones. I only have the Home key atm no End lol

So I want to make Special-Home be End etc.

[hazy frost]

Idk whether TKL or 75 would be better for me

I might go for 75 to save a little more space

[odd sand]

It's not a big difference. You cut like an extra inch/2cm off the right side.

[hazy frost]

Yeah I’ll take anything lmao

[odd sand]

Still has the fkeys, but you only have 4-5 keys on the right side, depending on the specific keyboard.

[hazy frost]

Drawing tablet and keyboard and mouse gets very cramped

It’ll just depend on what I can buy

[odd sand]

Oh, you're buying it for use with a drawing tablet?

[hazy frost]

I wanted the monsgeek m1 which is 75% I think

[hazy frost]

I mean just for my desk but when I use the tablet it takes up half the space in front of me so a full size one doesn’t work anymore

[odd sand]

A lot of people like using something like this in tandem with a drawing tablet/cintiq:
https://www.razer.com/gaming-keypads/Razer-Tartarus-V2/RZ07-02270100-R3U1

[hazy frost]

I could do that but it’s $80 just for that so i figure i might as well just get a nice keyboard instead of a small one just for that

To replace my current one as well

There’s a few buttons on the tablet for stuff but using the keyboard to the left of me is more comfortable for shortcuts anyway

[odd sand]

Or they make basic-bitch versions that are more like this:
https://maxkeyboard.com/max-falcon-20-rgb-custom-programmable-mini-macropad-mechanical-keyboard-assembled.html

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806634816168.html

[hazy frost]

Yeah I could get one of those

They’re just so expensive it’s the point where I’m like I can spend $50 more and get most of the keyboard I want

[hazy frost]

Lmao the blank keys

I might get it anyway

[odd sand]

It's a macro pad, you're intended to put stickers on them to name them

The oldschool ones have clear keycaps you pull off and there's paper to write on underneath

[hazy frost]

Oh right

[odd sand]

I've seen some manga artists go crazy and have like 50 button ones on either side of their cintiq lol

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[odd sand]

No doubt macro'd for specific filters and actions

[hazy frost]

I only need it for a few things when I’m drawing

I have my keyboard at an angle to fit atm

[odd sand]

Yeah I have a Nostromo which was the predecessor to the Tartarus, and used it for photoshop hotkeys. Used maybe a dozen keys on it

[hazy frost]

I think I could probably make use of like 8 keys probably

I do rly want to get rid of this steelseries keyboard atp tho too

[odd sand]

Get foot pedals /s

[hazy frost]

I got it on sale and it’s fine bc I got it on sale

But it’s still mediocre

[hazy frost]

This would actually be good tbh

My feet barely reach the floor anyway lol

I should get smth to put them on too for posture reasons

[sly elk]

huzzah

my split keyboard would go awesome with a drawing tablet

i have the halves on 6ft cables now so I can put the keyboards as far away from each other as I want

and the controller supports unplugging one side and just using the other

and it has layers so I can do whatever weird junk i want

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/Awz_CG2320E

[sly walrus]

https://cbsky.app/profile/culturecrave.co/post/3lafdyeapji2t

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-youve-got-mail-pressing-send-button-joe-fox-gif-14583265

[wild wyvern]

is r7 5700x a high end or mid range cpu

[real edge]

hm

[lost python]

mid

[real edge]

mid as fuck /s

jokes aside midrange

[lost python]

both gaming and productivity performance is midrange

[real edge]

5700X3D too expensive?

[wild wyvern]

1k myr

[real edge]

damn

what about 5600X3D

[sharp star]

Micro Center exclusive. Don't bother

Also discontinued

[real edge]

ohh

[wild wyvern]

https://www.tmt.my/products/amd-processor-am4-ryzen-7-5700x-3446ghz

1.2k

[hazy frost]

replaced by 7600x3d now

and tbf its $450 for the mobo ram and cpu which is pretty good

[hazy frost]

the 5700x3d is also 1.2k tho isnt it

get that

oh that is the x3d one

site says 5700x lol

still worth buying over the regular 5700x if u can afford it

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/wario64.bsky.social/post/3lagx625eu22u

https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-employee-morale-perks-cost-cutting-struggles-2024-11 Pizza party-ass move

Instead of coffee it's flavored piss

[inland mauve]

slashing free coffee is such a stupid decision

taking such a massive blow to enployee morale to save barely any money

what kind of fucking business major made that decision

it is so sad to see Intel destroy its reputation in just a few years

[lost python]

they gotta make sure to reduce their expenses by millions, so what better way than to start with the 1000$ it cost them to provide coffee for their employees

[hazy frost]

Should’ve made a good product instead of relying on their brand reputation carrying them through several years of shit hardware

I’m sure worse working conditions will encourage employees to work harder and bring the company back

Intel filing for bankruptcy

[inland mauve]

holy shit you can actually properly embed Youtube videos in BlueSky posts

[dire viper]

The Japanese are finally clearing their name of bad websites

I love looking at corporate Japanese websites

Toyota had some awful ones

The name of the GR trim vehicles is named after Gazoo which was an image and car listing website Toyota had that let people find cars around Japan for sale or for inspiration of modifications

That website was dog ass for like a decade

[hazy frost]

I looked at Japanese university websites once and that was enough

There was one where the map of campus took u to a new site in another tab and schedules took u to another instead of being within the same one

[cold yacht]

I’m use to college websites maps just opens a pdf

[hazy frost]

Yeah that makes sense

And is what should happen

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/8/24291328/mac-mini-removable-ssd-storage-nand-chips-upgradability

[kind rune]

https://tenor.com/view/korone-inugami-hololive-vtuber-idol-gif-25175564

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/d4dj-all-mix-kasuga-haruna-evil-smile-no-way-huh-gif-27524268

https://tenor.com/view/sono-bisque-doll-wa-koi-wo-suru-royalmale-anime-my-dress-up-darling-jump-gif-25253656

MAYBE NEXT THEY'LL MAKE A CPU THAT DOESNT HAVE THE FUCKING RAM SOLDERED ONTO IT

[dire viper]

How expensive do those super small SSD’s get

Like if you wanted a 4TB one

[sly elk]

ha

[dire viper]

Or is that just not a thing

[sly elk]

don't even bother

probably like $2k

[dire viper]

Damn

wtf

I thought normal full length ones were expensive

[sly elk]

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MR3A3AM/A/apple-4tb-ssd-upgrade-kit-for-mac-pro?

$1600 lol

[dire viper]

Remember when Sabrent was just selling that 10TB one

That was 10k

[sly elk]

but maybe.. just maybe we'll be able to buy 3rd party upgrades at some point

[dire viper]

Lmao

Never

If anybody figures it out they’ll be sued into the ground or apple corporate is blown up

[sly elk]

i'm not sure about that

the hard part is the SSDs have to be married to the computer with firmware and a config file i think

ahem

[dire viper]

I am kinda sure cause they sue for just figuring out how to fix stuff

[sly elk]

as far as I know, the system management firmware is stored on the damn SSD

like

[dire viper]

Me when fix apple phone screen and get the pinkertons sent

[sly elk]

if you give it power, the computer won't even do anything without the special sauce on the SSD

[dire viper]

That’s some bullshit

[sly elk]

UNAUTHORIZED MODIFICATIONS OF APPLE PROPERTY

tbh

sometimes I'm amazed apple actually still sells their hardware

like

I'd expect them to switch to a lease model

that way they maintain control of their hardware

[dire viper]

Yes

[sly elk]

I'm similarly surprised luxury car brands have never tried that

[dire viper]

It would make them more money

[sly elk]

because it would be an amazing way to gate keep their product

[dire viper]

They do actually, but it’s not as tyrannical as it could be

[sly elk]

just require an 800 credit score and 10 years of employment history with income of at least $xxx,xxx

bam

[dire viper]

BMW is the leader in it, it’s why they’re numbers are so strong

[sly elk]

no bmw still sells cars though

[dire viper]

Lease for 4 years and get free maintenance

[sly elk]

they don't have any lease exclusives that you can't buy out

[dire viper]

No reason to buy a BMW

When you can just lease it and only pay for gas

[sly elk]

german car brands just make it a very unattractive option to keep a car past the warranty

that's how they uh

"keep the riff raff out"

[dire viper]

Mercedes does

[sly elk]

what they make models you can't buy?

that would be interesting

[dire viper]

They do limited edition Maybachs some what regularly

[cerulean talon]

As if the people they really want buying their cars have reported income. xD

[sly elk]

but yea, if they ever want to make a brand "exclusive" I assume that would be the way

[dire viper]

Stuff you can only buy in UAE

And only if you’re on the special customer list

Ferrari also SORT of did that

[cerulean talon]

Ford does that too for something don't they?

[dire viper]

With the FXX line of cars

[sly elk]

I assume the people they really want buying their cars would be courted and receive special allocations and stuff

in the case of celebrities, probably free cars

[dire viper]

The track only FXX cars have a lease to own program

So you can’t buy one and then flip it for triple the price

Porsche did the same thing on the 911 S/T

[sly elk]

honestly it blows my mind that ferrari hasn't done that more, because they're the kinda company to do that lol

[dire viper]

To keep speculators out

[sly elk]

ferrari is like

the ultimate scumbag of car companies

[dire viper]

Eh

[sly elk]

and now that i've said that i'm probably going to be banned for life from ever touching a ferrari 😄

christian running off to notify them 😉

[dire viper]

Ferrari got hit the hardest by FIAT’s money before anything else

[sly elk]

loljkk

[cerulean talon]

Just drive subarus forever. nods

[sly elk]

tbh

[dire viper]

Luca de Montezzemelo left Ferrari after Sergio Marchione basically forcefully took Ferrari over

[sly elk]

i'd sooner take the bus than drive a subaru

ok nvm I wouldn't

but man

[cerulean talon]

Gimme a subaru every day, and I'm a happy chaotic cat.

[dire viper]

And Luca was the one behind all the great cars which is wild, the Ferrari LaFerrari and 458 were his kids basically

812

The cars everybody wants

Ferrari Enzo was also him

[sly elk]

the only subaru i would be ok owning

is a blue bugeye sti

[dire viper]

Only Subaru I would own is a box body Forester

[sly elk]

hehe

I have a soft spot for those, too.

[cerulean talon]

I've got every intention of rebuilding a WRX and a BRZ to add to my collection.

[dire viper]

Literally see no point in buying them as they’re starting to turn into lemons

[sly elk]

but they're not really unique they're just outdated

like

there were lots of wagons that looked like the forester in the late 80s/early 90s

the forester just kept that design until like 2004

[dire viper]

Japanese manufacturing is dead and Japan itself killed it

[sly elk]

when they switched to that ugly design they currently have

[dire viper]

You can get a MINT Forester for like 5k

[sly elk]

the current design just weirds me out

because they're like the height of a rav4

[dire viper]

Single owner grandma who only put 70k miles on it in 20 years and did all the maintenance

[sly elk]

but the side windows are like, knee height

so it has the beltline height of like a honda civic

[dire viper]

Subaru fell off after the 2000’s 😔

Mostly cause it’s competition is so fierce

[sly elk]

admittedly my design critique is limited to what's now the old model

[cerulean talon]

My housemate just ordered his model-m keyboard recreation

[sly elk]

hehe

[dire viper]

Margins were not great for them so the STi got heavier with no extra power

[sly elk]

idk if subaru fell off

[cerulean talon]

THERES GONNA BE SO MUCH CLACKING AND BUCKLING.

[sly elk]

tbh I think the opposite happened

[dire viper]

Cause they didn’t have the money to reengineer the whole powertrain

[sly elk]

subaru washed themselves of the ricer boy reputation

[dire viper]

They still do

[sly elk]

and somehow became the middle aged white dude wearing crocs brand

[dire viper]

They just don’t make cars like Mazda or Toyota

[dire viper]

Mazdas are offered in AWD with better interiors and power trains, plus they come with actually good technology to back it up

AWD Mazda’s have true torque vectoring

Which is extremely good

Makes them ice skaters compared to a Subaru which is learning how to walk on ice

The biggest grift of all time

Ford engineered a new Torque Vectoring system and control module

Mazda paid for it, made it better, Ford didn’t put it in anything and their “torque vectoring” they have now isn’t as good

Mazda literally only ever benefited from the Ford partnership while ford didn’t gain anything realistically

[dire viper]

I like the CX-50 more

Idk why but I love how Mazdas look

Probably cause they look aggressive

Mazda 3’s look like they should have some crazy powerful turbo 4 banger shoved in them

But they don’t

[sly elk]

so when I was looking at cheap 3 row suvs

the cx90 was on my list of things i liked
but i never drove anything LOL

[dire viper]

I would go drive one

Find an i6 hybrid

I’ve heard nothing but great things

It’s a 3 row but not massive?

So the 3rd row works but it’s not crazy big

Kinda like the normal 3 row CX-9

[sly elk]

i think the latest cx90 is a rwd/awd kinda platform too?

[dire viper]

I don’t like how numb Mazdas are but even when they’re numb they drive fantastically

[sly elk]

not a more typical fwd/awd

[dire viper]

Ye

It’s standard RWD

They basically Miata’ed the CX-9

[sly elk]

lol basically a japanese jeep grand cherokee

[dire viper]

But Good

[sly elk]

hmmmmm

ok we rented one but my brother used it 99% of the time

i only used it twice so I can't really tell you if it was good or not

[dire viper]

A grand Cherokee?

[sly elk]

yea current grand cherokee L version

it was inoffensive enough though the aesthetics scream canyonero

i think the durango is probably more reliable but you'd know better than me? lol

actually I do remember a thing

it felt faster than my wrangler...

which initially left me dumbfounded because I'm 99% sure it had the same 3.6

[dire viper]

Eh

They’re all about the same

[sly elk]

what also surprised me was later learning

that they weigh about the same

because it's fucking huge

[dire viper]

Cherokee probably worse cause of electronics

[sly elk]

yep!

that's what I was thinking

[dire viper]

They went up market with the Jeep line and ruined them probably

Except the wrangler somehow

[sly elk]

but if you buy the cheapest one you get less bs electronics

and the cheapest one is still pretty nice for the price

though the cx90 costs about the same for the cheapest one and it also looks nice inside

outside the cx90 is more distinctive?

or less, depending on what you're looking at, I suppose

the funny thing to me is the short grand cherokee looks more like an old wagoneer, than the wagoneer does

the cx90 from the rear kinda reminds me of an infiniti fx35 but blown up

[dire viper]

Get CX-90 i6 hybrid it’s awesomeeeeeeee

It’s also a completely brand new engine

[sly elk]

i coulda swore the hybrids were troublesome

[dire viper]

From a company that’s never had an inline 6 iirc

[hazy frost]

The CX90 is cool

[sly elk]

like

got recalled already?

[hazy frost]

Everyone who owns one loves it

[dire viper]

All CX-90’s with the i6 are hybrid

[dire viper]

Possibly?

[sly elk]

the other thing that would dictate if i bought an suv like that, is the ground->seat height

[dire viper]

Mazda is good about that tho

[sly elk]

because most 3 row things are gonna be too high for my mom to get into

she basically can't lift her feet at all atm

[dire viper]

CX-90 is like old person car

Our CX-9 is fine for my grandma and she’s 74 and on oxygen

[sly elk]

the cx90 and mdx are probably the lowest sitting 3 row suvs

at least externally?

[hazy frost]

It’s not super high off the floor

[sly elk]

when it comes to 2 rows you can get ones that are practically cars

but my brother in one of those would be a bad fit lol

[hazy frost]

I mean the cx90 looks like it sits almost as low as most 2 rows from what I’ve seen irl

[sly elk]

the grand cherokee might work with the air suspension HAHAHA

but you can only get the air suspension on the highest trim and it's not worth the price
and also a mandatory 8+ year warranty cuz that shit isn't gonna last

(fuck air suspensions)

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[sly elk]

I love that lucid made a $100k car that doesn't use an air suspension lmao

or hell I think even the sapphire one that costs like 180k still doesn't use that

[hazy frost]

CX90 looks nice, is quick if u get the i6 higher power one especially, doesn’t sit obnoxiously high

[sly elk]

oh iirc there is one thing about the cx90

the front doors are short

quite short

[dire viper]

Yuh

[hazy frost]

The interior isn’t that crazy but it can’t be worse than what Jeep is offering rn lol

[dire viper]

That’s how the Mazda SUV’s are

[sly elk]

jeep's interiors are fine?

[dire viper]

I prefer short doors

[sly elk]

I have low standards, you know this already

[dire viper]

Long doors suck

[hazy frost]

CX90 would be the nicest car you’ve had then probably lol

Inside

[dire viper]

My bimmers doors are a mile long and it makes it awkward to get out

[sly elk]

idk

gramps it's unfair to compare a 2 door car to a 4 door car with door length

[dire viper]

I wish BMW manned up and out swan doors on the coupes

[hazy frost]

I prefer long doors so u can see more out the front windows at awkward junctions

That’s the only reason

[dire viper]

We love 600 dollar door struts you have to replace every 5 years

[sly elk]

the obnoxious part about short doors

is when your seat is past the b pillar

[dire viper]

Harder to see

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[sly elk]

the id buzz is really bad about that

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[dire viper]

That’s not the case in Mazdas

[sly elk]

from every review i've seen, the front seats are like halfway past the b pillar

[dire viper]

Our CX-9 isn’t like that

[sly elk]

it's stupid lol

[dire viper]

You sit so upright

B pillar doesn’t obscure your view

HOWEVER

A pillar on Mazdas is bad

Our CX-9 has the thickest fucking A pillar ever conceived

[sly elk]

if you want my thoughts on my jeep wrangler's interior haha here goes, unsolicited :3

I like the dashboard, like the seats

[dire viper]

But also Mazdas are great in a roll over so compromises

[sly elk]

the door panels are ok but the front ones push inwards when you open the windows... and my jk did this too... idk why they do that. it's weird

[hazy frost]

I’ve never been inside a jeep and thought anything other than eh at best

[sly elk]

the plastic trim, like the lower wall trim? it's total crap

just total crap

[hazy frost]

And I drive a cheap car so my standards aren’t high

[sly elk]

and as far as I know, the post facelift 2024+ ones? even worse crap

[dire viper]

The funny Targa top on jeeps

[hazy frost]

The CX90 interior is nice but I don’t think it’s the nicest SUV interior at that price

[dire viper]

We sell a lot of full replacement kits for them

People run them over all the time

Lmao

[sly elk]

LOL

why

[dire viper]

Take it off, set it behind jeep

Forget

[sly elk]

LOL

[dire viper]

Back over it

[sly elk]

CRUNCH

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[dire viper]

Yuh

[sly elk]

that's sad

those are expensive lol

[dire viper]

Also there is a little bracket for it that breaks cause ppl try to force it on

Shops do it a lot

[sly elk]

also the back window

[dire viper]

And so they call us freaking the fuck out needing it ASAP

[sly elk]

lots of people break the back window when they try to take the top off the first time

[sly elk]

i wonder which bracket

[dire viper]

Tiny one

Maybe inch by inch

[sly elk]

i can't remember if i ever took the targa tops off my jl hahahaha

i did it on my jk a bunch of times

it's just i hate doing that when they're really dirty

and for some reason ever since i bought the jl my life's been stupid so my jeep is always dirty af

i need tot ake the top off so I can lube the seals

get out the ole tube of shin etsu

[sly elk]

i'll suggest that there's different kinds of nice

like many years ago i got a taxi and it was randomly a 90s box body lincoln town car

and it was the most pillowy soft back seat LOL

seemed even fluffier than the back seat of my mom's old friend's 75 lincoln mkv

[hazy frost]

Old American cars just went with the concept of putting as much padding as possible into a seat will surely make it the most comfortable

Unfortunately that is actually not comfortable for particularly long journeys over time and driving

[sly elk]

come to think of it, there was also a lady my mom hired to give me rides to middle school because it was all the way across town. she had a lincoln mkviii and the few times i rode in the back seat it was also pretty nice LOL

yea but

how often are you making particularly long journeys in your car?

also i think there's a happy medium

because i'm ngl

after about 4 hours driving the cadillac with its rock hard sporty seats

MY ASS HURTS

[hazy frost]

I’d take a seat with proper support and mediocre padding over smth super pillowy any day

[sly elk]

honestly

i want a fucking sloppy car

i'm not going for a track day on the Nürburgring with it

otoh, i hate cars that understeer badly so

ugh understeer is the worst

[dire viper]

Buy an old S Class

[sly elk]

I SHOULD

I REALLY SHOULD

[dire viper]

Literally the solution is always S class

[hazy frost]

I won’t comment on understeer I have fwd

[dire viper]

W140 S Class is championed as the best S class

Because it’s old school luxury

[sly elk]

i mean

[dire viper]

It’s soft but it’s not like

[sly elk]

w140 is basically

[dire viper]

Super super super soft

[hazy frost]

My dad has been talking about buying one of these for years atp as well, It seems everyone loves them and yet no one buys them

[dire viper]

Car rolls rather than bucks or juts

[sly elk]

well this will probably upset you

but i have a feelng if i drove a w140

[dire viper]

It’s cause it’s not an exciting car

It really is just a super nice daily lmao

[sly elk]

i'd basically be driving an older chrysler 300

[hazy frost]

He already drive the C class lmao

[dire viper]

15k for a mint one

[hazy frost]

Idk why he’s not got the S class

[sly elk]

ugh but they are lovely

[dire viper]

They’re probably cheap AF in the UK

[sly elk]

they look awesome too

[hazy frost]

It’s not like its special

[sly elk]

wait that one's wheels are funky

[hazy frost]

It’s a c220

[hazy frost]

They are

C class is super cheap

[dire viper]

Lowered on wheels

[hazy frost]

Old 3 series also super cheap

[sly elk]

but yes

[hazy frost]

S class and 7 series not so cheap but still below 10k iirc

[hazy frost]

Unless u get the v12 7 series

[sly elk]

i did seriously consider getting a last-gen s class >>

[dire viper]

So simple

[sly elk]

but that got confusing

i was like yes yes s550 let's go

[dire viper]

S550 big one

[hazy frost]

S class is boring but most people drive boring cars anyway so might as well be comfortable

[dire viper]

Basically bigger number means higher trim

Old S500 is the big V8 S class

S600 is the V12

[hazy frost]

I feel like v8 just goes against luxury with that one tho

The v12 would be much smoother

[dire viper]

The V8 is smooth

They’re almost entirely V8’s and the V8 is the one to have

[sly elk]

the v12 sounds sick

[dire viper]

The V12 adds lots of weight

[sly elk]

that much i'll give you

[dire viper]

And they’re very expensive because extremely rare

They do make the ride slightly worse from what I’ve heard

The reason the W140 is so good is because it’s not incredibly obese

Suspension isn’t bottoming out over basic roads

[hazy frost]

Weight yeah but the noise and vibration in daily driving is surely still better with the v12 ones

[dire viper]

So it just rolls

[dire viper]

Maybe

I don’t know

[sly elk]

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?#listing=398149120/NONE/DEFAULT

[dire viper]

Only ever been in V8 ones and it’s still like.

Nothing else exists around you

[hazy frost]

Idk about the S class but most other cars with the v8 and 12 the 12 seems nicer

[sly elk]

i like this one >>

[dire viper]

The AMG ones are terrible fyi

[sly elk]

that's sadness

[dire viper]

The suspension on those is stiff even in soft mode

[sly elk]

i mean

[dire viper]

It’s not an S class anymore IMO

[hazy frost]

AMG s class feels stupid

[sly elk]

i might be ok with the stiffness? idk

[hazy frost]

They’re just

Opposites

[sly elk]

stiff can be ok if the seats work with it

[dire viper]

AMG SL makes more sense

[hazy frost]

Can u get the S class with just the AMG trim still tho

[dire viper]

They don’t

Sporty seats

[sly elk]

the other hard part here is

finding a last gen s class that isn't already clapped out with 100k miles on it

[hazy frost]

100k miles isn’t that much

[sly elk]

means that $20k air suspension is hopes and dreams now

[hazy frost]

Idk why people are so worried about a car being at 100k miles as if it’s gonna explode after that

[dire viper]

W140 is the answer

Or a 500E

[sly elk]

cuz these were made to be leased to shuttle a ceo around

[dire viper]

500E is an S Class tier car with a sport V8 and 150mph capability

[sly elk]

and then tossed in the crusher when the lease ends

lol jk

[hazy frost]

Tbf anything with lower miles is probably the same difference in price and then the suspension might still have issues or not on either

[dire viper]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a42112119/1992-audi-s4-1992-bmw-m5-1992-mercedes-benz-500e-compared/#

[hazy frost]

Not many S classes that I see have just sat in a garage, people drive them so they end up with miles bc that’s what they’re good for

[dire viper]

S class makes sense in Europe

Can drive it everywhere and it’s comfy

Take a trip down to France from the UK

[hazy frost]

I’m a fan of the e38 rn

7 series

The interior isn’t exactly S class level but I think it’s more interesting lol

[hazy frost]

It’s very cheap which helps

[sly elk]

the 7 series are cheaper used, too

[sly elk]

but iirc

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[dire viper]

When I think S class I think ultimate road trip car

[hazy frost]

Worst one but

Still

[sly elk]

7 series with a b58?

[dire viper]

Some 7 series dog doo doo

The post E38 7 series is dog shit

[hazy frost]

There’s an S600 for £22k

[dire viper]

The one after not so much

[hazy frost]

E38 is awesome

Another v12 option too

[dire viper]

I don’t think the E38 has a V12?

[hazy frost]

It still looks decent inside but it’s obviously old

[dire viper]

It’s past the M72 era isn’t it

[hazy frost]

Pretty sure it does

But not many do

[dire viper]

Cause that V12 came out in 87 for that 7 series

And then came out in the 850

[sly elk]

also iirc the s550 has turbos no?

[hazy frost]

Apparently the one from the e31 as well

[sly elk]

sigh turbos

[hazy frost]

E31 is also very cool

[dire viper]

Oh M73

[sly elk]

and for laughs, the only cpo near me are s450s LOL

wait is the s450 smaller than the s550?

[hazy frost]

I don’t think I’ve seen a v12 e38 irl tbh

[dire viper]

I thought M73 was the Rolls only

[hazy frost]

Only the v8(s)

[hazy frost]

Wiki says e31 as well which I didn’t know tbh

[dire viper]

Probably super late cars

It says 92

And post

[hazy frost]

Weird

[dire viper]

The 850CSi’s still have the M70’s I think

[hazy frost]

It has another v12 as well which I thought was the only one

Yeah

[dire viper]

Super tuned by M

[hazy frost]

M70 and S70

[dire viper]

I think the CSi’s engine is what the F1’s engine is based on just so heavily modified

[hazy frost]

And then also the M73 lmao

[dire viper]

Yea cause the F1’s engine is like an S72 or something weird

[hazy frost]

Why would they do that tho

The M70 is fine

[dire viper]

Do what

[hazy frost]

Use the 73

[dire viper]

Swap the engine to the M73?

Emissions maybe

Probably to get double vanos

[hazy frost]

Yeah but they were making the M/S70 during the same time period as the M73 was used

[dire viper]

Double vanos makes more power and gets better emissions so shrug

[hazy frost]

Which just seems weird

[dire viper]

BMW stuff

[hazy frost]

Unless it was only sold with that in specific places

[dire viper]

That and probably just because things like the 850 weren’t just an 850

[hazy frost]

Do BMW use any of the new v12s in anything other than the RRs

Like post 2000

[dire viper]

The 850 was V12’s, but the V12’s came in different trims

840 with V8

[sly elk]

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/3217286 eh? XD

[hazy frost]

I cant even look at that bc I’m not from the US lmao

[sly elk]

oh ew

it got hit before

[hazy frost]

I don’t think they’re much cheaper anymore are they

Might as well get an 850 now

Oh nvm the 840 is CHEAP

That’s actually insane

I thought the 850 was common

[dire viper]

I’ve never seen an 840

I’ve seen 20 different 850’s

[hazy frost]

I just looked on auto trader and there’s like 10 840s up for under 20k rn

But somehow I’ve only seen an 850 in person

I just assumed they would be closer in price bc of that

I guess people with an 850 will take it to events tho bc it’s rarer now so u actually see them

[dire viper]

Also the 850 was a sales flop

And it came out during an economy flop

The 500SL sold really good cause it was a lot of things the 850 wasn’t

500SL was selling for over sticker even which is nuts

Think for the first 2 years of the 500SL they were totally sold out

So from 89 to 91

91 they weren’t sold out just hard to get

Ppl were willing to pay double sticker price in 90 to get one

[wild wyvern]

the 5700x is even cheaper

[sly elk]

interesting, the apple m4 is a fair bit larger than an m1

[cerulean talon]

The chip?

[sly elk]

the package is

the ram chips are bigger too i think

damn i think i accidentally swalloed a fruit fly

[cerulean talon]

I'm sure the transistor count is up to match tbh.

Even as they've pushed to smaller nodes.

[sly elk]

yup

hmm actually i think it was just a tiny piece of food in my mouth

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, I use their low profiles all over the place.

Tbh, I generally just let them thermally throttle.

Depends on what you're wiring the HBA to.

If you're doing HBA -> Sata, then you'd need a 16i, but I'd also abuse onboard connections

If you're doing HBA -> SAS, it depends on the SAS expander.

Oh yeah, that thing.

I think Iv'e got one of those in talia.

You'd want a 16i for that.

The xx50's are /much/ quieter.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BDZWJAO/ is probally what you want in a 2u.

Because you need the low profile, and the 9300 is a normal profile.

I've got one of those in artica for her 16 bay setup, and it works quite well IME.

I'll probally slap one in talia now that I'm thinking about it, because she's a little janky with half her SAS slots.

QS is the good stuff.

Yeah, probally blown fuses again.

[shadow oracle]

Don't worry I bought a Dell D1200 with 48TBs of storage like 3 years ago, fired it up once and never again cos I only the realised that 74dBa in a studio doesn't really work

[cerulean talon]

33 deep isn’t that unusual

[odd sand]

That's precisely why I went with an EATX board I could fit in an HTPC case instead... then at least the CPU fan is 92mm and PSU is normal sized. Don't have to deal with the hairdryer sound of 60mm 7200rpm deltas /s

[sly elk]

yea rack mount servers tend to be stupidly long

it's kind of a holdover from when servers NEEDED all that space

and some servers still do >>

like the kind loaded up with gpus lol

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, super micro does the short bois

[sly elk]

hell maybe most still do

[odd sand]

Still impressive when you do see a 4U mount.

[sly elk]

if you need enough computing power to rack and stack

[cerulean talon]

Most do just to break out the pcie lanes tbh

[sly elk]

also using desktop style GPUs in a rackmoutn seems hella ineffiicent

is this not where those nvidia machines come in handy?

[cerulean talon]

They’re still rare tbh unless you get them specifically

There’s still plenty of call for teslas/etc

[sly elk]

it's unfortunate because im under the impression the desktop ones are a byproduct lol

erm

like ye olde 4090

i figured by now their main bread and butter was selling billions in AI hardware

that will mostly end up being used for stupid shit that will never return any money LMAO

[odd sand]

My last job had 2x of those 7050s on the left

[sly elk]

I suppose I'm not being fair to the tech

but this obsession with LLMs seems like the cryptocurrency bubble but even worse

[odd sand]

8U mount lol... and then you have the one on the right geezus... is that 12U? 16?

[sly elk]

oh wow

hehe i wonder if they use that to host a vpn

[odd sand]

7080 holding off the entire PLA hacking force at once /s

[sly elk]

i bet

oh wow

beefy

[shadow oracle]

Ackshually it's 80mm deltas

[odd sand]

https://old.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/1gmlnkz/cops_in_detroit_are_freaked_out_about_a_wave_of/

Will the Lisan al Gaib meme ever stop being funny?

short depth 4 bay system aka... a full tower case? /s

[sly elk]

yes but icehunter wants a rack

gotta keep up with the joneses in /r/homelab

[odd sand]

Sounds like something you could put together with a bit of metal bending and a 3d printer

[sly elk]

you know what makes me laugh

is I've seen actual like 100 people businesses have the 'we need a nas' use case... and just buy a drobo

or what's the one that everyone uses these days instead?

i forgot what it's called

YEA SYNOLOGY

I wonder if drobo even exists anymore

the funny thing is I think before drobo there was another brand everyone bought

synology has been king for a little while

... its time is almost up

i'm guessing the pie isn't as big as it used to be, too

because IT will be like

[odd sand]

Your mention of Drobo and seeing it stood for Data Robotics reminded me of US Robotics... apparently they still exist and still make modems. Who knew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USRobotics

[sly elk]

JUST GET ONEDRIVE 365 OFF PREM

SAFER

INCLUDED IN YOUR OFFICE 365 AZURE CLOUD AD MEMBERSHIP

[odd sand]

Drobo sounds like a proto-JBOD?

[sly elk]

ALL HAIL MICROSOFT CULT

-salute-

https://tenor.com/view/first-order-stormtroopers-gif-22468472

[sly elk]

i wonder why the fuck they called iit US robotics anyway

The company has stated it was named as an homage to Asimov because in his science fiction works U.S. Robots eventually became "the greatest company in the known galaxy",[2] and USR appeared in I, Robot (2004) as the fictional company itself.[3]

ohhh I see

well there's a 30 year old mystery solved, thanks wikipedia!

[odd sand]

You beat me to it by 3 seconds heh

[sly elk]

my first modem was a zoom 33.6 "upgradable to 56k" that I never bought the upgrade for LOL

as i recall after some point it just didn't work anymore

wonder if anyone makes a nice small case with u.2 slots

or maybe what i was looking for is something else

interesting

there's edsff

[odd sand]

I had a 14.4 at first, but fairly quickly upgraded to a 33.6 and it may have been 18-24mo after that before I got a 56k

progressive image loading intensifies

[sly elk]

that chassis has 108 edsff nvme bays lmao

so you get that and 108 nvme adapters and the cheapest fucking 1tb nvmes you can get your hands on hahaha

[odd sand]

Was always interesting how the images would load in super blurry and gradually get more detail to them. Like putting on 10 glasses back to back making your vision a little better each time heh

[sly elk]

hehe

I remember some websites just being laughably slow

like my mom and I would look for certain things and it'd take hours because some sites were just image heavy

[odd sand]

Shoulda turned off image loading like a pro

[sly elk]

the image loading was the point lol

like shopping for stuff

[odd sand]

Oh, WELP.

[shadow oracle]

You want a standard depth tbh

It's fine so long as you don't have an extended depth cade

I didn't fucking check the dimensions of the case I bought cos I thought it was standard 600mm depth

Turns out

It was 900mm

Fml

It literally doesn't fit in most racks

Why not just get a SFF nas chassis

[cerulean talon]

Supermicro has tons of these in general.

20" is easy to get in a SM short boi, if not shorter.

Not gonna be super modern, but they're certianly findable.

Tbh, I'm sitting here trying to decide what I want to build for a big ole caching server around the house >.>

Seriously considering slapping an 8 bay DAS onto one of my tiny nucs and giving it a ton of spinning disk cache for internal traffic.

[sly elk]

I forgot what @tame fulcrum is gonna use it for. i think they said running docker stuff?

a regular short chassis loaded up with 2.5" ssds would probably be fine

the only problem with 2.5" SSDs is getting ones that have dram and all that is getting harder now

[odd sand]

Remember you probably need the SFP modules to slot into that card as well...

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/296323901271

That's just an SFP transceiver with a cable already attached, same difference

I was just making sure you understood what a bare SFP card entails is all

Lest you get it in the mail and go... where's the ports?

Anyways, speaking of homelab stuff: I should go to bed and see if I can get my 2.5gbe switch up and running I bought almost a year ago

Also I need to get proxmox up and running on the server I have, but I think I'll end up donating it to a local HS or something for compsci and simply use my 13900K. Maybe just get a NUC to run my own firewall, pihole etc.

If you put in normal Cat6, that should support 2.5gbe for sure and probably 10gbe for runs of no more than 50m

[wild wyvern]

why tf im stuttering so hard with an single 8gb ram uuugh

[paper tusk]

looks like m4 mac mini uses a ssd daugherboard. non standard of course so will have to wait for someone to reverse engineer an adaptor (it doesn't look like the controller is on it so a normal m2 is going to be problematic)

[paper tusk]

a single stick is going to be awful because of being a single stick (not 2 channels)

[wild wyvern]

oh yeah

im lagging like shit rn

i ahve to stick with this for awhile aaaa

[odd sand]

Maybe I should just buy this:
https://mikrotik.com/product/rb5009ug_s_in

Could connect the 2.5gbe switch to the 2.5gbe port and have the 10gbe SFP for if I ever decide to get the YOLO 5gbe fiber from ATT /s

[sly elk]

yea so far nobody makes replacements for the same modules used in the mac studio and mac pro

[sly elk]

I am suddenly reminded of sarah's computer with the hacked together aio water cooler

with the rusted ram slots

[wild wyvern]

acutally should i replace my rx 580 if its just still runnning well?

[sly elk]

no

buy new computer parts if you want them

if you don't, you don't need them

[paper tusk]

are you happy with its performance?

[sly elk]

i'm not gonna judge you if you decide that you want a 4090 instead of your rx580 😄

[wild wyvern]

hey

its a 2nd hand

but its running well ofc

[sly elk]

i have at least 3 computers I could happily survive using as my daily driver

[paper tusk]

I mean are there games you can't play as desired because of it

[wild wyvern]

uh not really its dx12

[paper tusk]

then wait and save up

[sly elk]

tbh the other funny thing that can happen with gpus

i remember a couple machines back i was rocking a 3rd gen i7 and a gtx660

[paper tusk]

(or just wait for a end of year sale)

[wild wyvern]

my cpu is oldge

😭

[sly elk]

upgraded to a asus 1070

then i got hit in the neck financially so I sold it because the prices were up and I got what i paid for it out

[wild wyvern]

my cpu is an i5 4440

[sly elk]

went back to the 660 and realized my games were much nicer on the 1070 LOL

[wild wyvern]

so realistically im cpu is bottlenecking the 580

[sly elk]

do you at least have an ssd in there?

[wild wyvern]

SSD and a HDD

[sly elk]

at least there's that

[wild wyvern]

i just want to uh get a nvme

with a new cpu

cuz its getting older yk lol

[real edge]

i5 4440

thats cute

[wild wyvern]

a relic

lmao

im suprised it still stands after 6 years lmao

or 7 years

[sly elk]

lol i'm using teamgroup ssds in my nvr

[shadow oracle]

Nah

SSD endurance is stupid high

https://techreport.com/review/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead/

[sly elk]

yea the endurance rating for these is 1600tbw I think?

ah yep, that's what they advertise anyway

[wild wyvern]

hmm 16gb ram or 32

[sly elk]

whatever you can afford

with no context i'd say 32

[hazy frost]

Depends what platform as well, on ddr4 platforms with 4 slots u can get 16 and another 16 later if u can’t afford it now, for ddr5 absolutely 0 point going with 16

[golden stream]

Me ddr4 laptop
It can support max 64
I'll go 64 anyway

[odd sand]

Someone was looking at TKLs in here right? On another chat this was dropped, looks decent:
https://www.nouvolo.com/products/yk830-pro-tkl-mechanical-keyboard

[hazy frost]

i was thinking about getting one but not ABS anyway

it is cheap tho so might consider to get one sooner instead of spending $120 on the M1 i wanted lol

aluminium one

[odd sand]

Yeah that's the one thing I saw about that was the ABS...

That will affect the feel and rebound of the keys

[hazy frost]

it does have a screen which is cool ig lol

if it actually supports anythung useful that is

the M3 v3 is about the same price and aluminium tho

https://www.monsgeek.com/product/m3-v3/

i think for an ABS one id get just a cheap one temporarily to get smth else eventually

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/7p6KkKiknX4?si=bzAqN8SVNQaIqV-Q

the Z is so bad 😭

base vs base

supra is a sports car Z is a touring car

[hazy frost]

Z is an ancient ass platform lmao

Supra is a more modern platform and actually a sports car

I still think the 400z nismo is very cool just costs way too much

400z has the same pros and cons as the 370z which was decent… a decade ago and still had problems then

And they’re charging as much as Toyota are for the supra

I wonder if the nismo brakes wouldn’t fail tho tbh

Nissan don’t have the budget to make an actual sports car so they’re recycling this as a ‘sports car’ still lmao

I think u could fix most of the issues on the Z without much problem but it’s still a 370

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/9/24292221/intel-acknowledged-arrow-lake-performance-issues-robert-hallock-exec

[hazy frost]

If this was what they had planned I would’ve been more surprised lmao

[sly elk]

as long as it has wheels it is

[sly elk]

beginning to think sony camera fanboys are even worse than canon ones

[odd sand]

I think 12U is about the size my friend has as well. They have it in an empty closet they added a ventilation fan into the ceiling above it.

Was an open frame model though more like something like this: https://www.cdw.com/product/tripp-lite-wallmount-open-frame-rack-12u-2-post-hinged-front-heavy-duty/6705674

[odd sand]

Yeah the WAN show last night discussed this a bit and kinda went over "What were they expecting then? They had to have known... how else did they think this would go?" https://youtu.be/pKQYWVrtVjw?t=5065

[teal sphinx]

which one should I get?

[odd sand]

They look to be in 2 different market segments for phones

Clearly the specs on the Xiaomi are better if you're okay with a CN handset and them having all your data

[teal sphinx]

fine with that tbh

[odd sand]

128gb/6gb it may say the handset was released in 2023, but those specs are more like something you would find from 2020/21

8gb is the standard for mid-range phones these days, with 12gb for the upper range

[teal sphinx]

yeah I do want 8GB RAM, just want a budget mid-range phone

[odd sand]

That sounds like it would fit the bill then. The A55 I think would be the real comparator to the Xiaomi though fwiw

Or the S23 FE: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s23_fe-12520.php

Oh nm their pricing is wonky and probably is including used prices from Amazon

[teal sphinx]

so samsung A55 the best choice out of these for the price?

I really don't care about camera quality and all that stuf

[odd sand]

That I couldn't say. Google up some review comparisons

Also 3:30am I need to sleep lol

[sly elk]

I can't believe they named a phone "A55"

that's rich lmao

[odd sand]

Smells a bit like...

[paper tusk]

yeah (I haven't looked at the specs so all I'll say is make sure either supports your carrier's 5g band)

[teal sphinx]

Is Redmi Note 13 pro+ better?

[wise hatch]

I would note that even though redmi phones have better specs for their price, software wise MIUI does not come anywhere close to what you'll get from samsung, google, or oneplus

also I think redmi phones dont come with google services ? or I might be mistaking it for huawei

I know one of the two doesnt have them

[paper tusk]

the redmi's soc is going to be much better than the one in the samsung

[sly elk]

ya know

i'm interested in that 'triple fold' phone

not like i'd buy one, it's $3600 iirc

but it's friggin cool

[paper tusk]

huawei is blacklisted still

[teal sphinx]

what do you mean by google services?

[wise hatch]

that is to say, a phone with no google services wont have play store, or be able to use any app that uses a google account

so no gmail, youtube, whatever

oh I think you could use youtube but wouldnt be able to login

[paper tusk]

might be able to with a browser but not the app

it would be pretty annoying in regular life though

since the mobile site is deliberate shit

[odd sand]

Can you put that on the phone if you want though? I thought it simply doesn't have it by default

[paper tusk]

I'm not sure on sideloading the yt app (if it uses play services)

should be doabble

[sly elk]

also 12gb is a 👍 for me

while I don't quite use my fold4 as my main phone, I do really really like using it and functionally it's held up great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jg-XgwfzIs

fun fun

$1k case lol

i have seen this before somewhere

[real edge]

isnt there a oneplus for around that price

oneplus nord 3 lite or something

check that one out too

[mortal condor]

All the memes, jokes, and finally.....Ryzen is king

[dire viper]

It’s been king

7800X3D

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/_Wy3DoXsdUM?si=bZyHdcKv2VjoooOh

holy crap

who buys a base new car

and the cheapest one at that

for 19k you could buy so many nice used cars

[hazy frost]

People financing it because they want to flex something they can’t actually afford bc people think others care how old their car is

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/btr6-kt6cL0?si=GhCTVtsPuGFpheXe

[odd sand]

Maybe if you want to mod it yourself. Even then, you might want to up the trim package a little bit. Although it's a Versa so good luck with the CVT transmission... oh wait nm a manual so it can't be CVT.

[dire viper]

the new CVT's arent bad

they're actually really good

this new generation of CVT's finally matches the quality of the CVT's that F1 teams tested in the 90's before they were banned for being too good lmao

[odd sand]

I wonder how many stock manuals are still available in the US. Last I heard it was like 3% of all car sales. In Europe it's still greater than 50% isn't it?

[dire viper]

probably not that high

oh nvm

80%

oh no thats just

all cars sold

30% of new cars are manual in Europe

vs 95% in the 2000's

its probably because of insurance

and whats funny is that manual sports cars are more common in the US, lots of sports cars were never offered in manual in EU but they were in the US

what probably makes sense is just the post WW2 economy and its influence on stuff like cars

US was booming post war so every car had a manual option where as a lot of european economies were still recovering and automatics just werent a thing unless you bought a mercedes

my grandma had a VW Beetle in the 70's and it was the same price as a Dodge Dart with an auto

500 bucks

both were a few years old by 1970 tho

[hazy frost]

It’s 40% in England

I think more people drive manual here than like any other western country ngl

Idk why people insist on never even learning manual tho

I get wanting an auto to daily anyway

[dire viper]

fundamentally when you can buy an auto car for the same price as a manual most people are gonna pick the auto

cause its easier

most of the car ppl I know dont even know how to drive manual lmao

[hazy frost]

Yeah that’s what I mean

[dire viper]

but tbf they got money for stuff like Alfa 4C's

[hazy frost]

I understand why people pick auto but idk why people never learn manual

It just makes more sense to be able to choose either

[odd sand]

I heard up to like 5 years ago the number was something like 75% drove manual across EU

[hazy frost]

Could be that there’s more used autos at a reasonable price

Instead of having to buy a brand new car to get a decent auto transmission

[remote crescent]

What do you guys think about the tarifs being proposed by trump? Considering upgrading my pc soon to avoid paying it.

I know nothing is set in stone, but I'm worried he'll do it.

[paper tusk]

politics rule aside, there's nothing good that will come from it, especially since there will (likely) be price hikes from retailers on top of the baked in tariff (from price to retailer)

small percentages but it adds up

consoles are at most risk compared to pc parts

[hazy frost]

If it happens things are likely to get quite a lot more expensive at some point

If u can afford to do it somewhat soon I would tbh

[remote crescent]

Yeah. I'd say there's no way it would be proposed but here we are