technology-discussion

[hazy frost]

There’s only like 2 or 3 cars it’s used in to look at for reliability lol I don’t think they’re great tho

This is exactly what’s going on my engine bc my wallet is empty

Lmao

[sly elk]

wagoneer 😄

but apparently the engine isn't an issue in the wagoneer, just everything else

[hazy frost]

oh well maybe itll be ok then lmao

[sly elk]

afaik they can't use it in the wrangler because it's too long

[dire viper]

I thought it was the other way around

Although the i6 is insanely beefy for a new block

It’s built like the Hemi, aka they kinda overdid it so it’s not cheap but it’s not overly expensive

It’s a 4 valve per cylinder head, produces more power than the outgoing normal trim V8’s, has better fuel economy, and because it’s an i6 it’s long but narrow so it already fits in a lot of existing platforms ie RAM

It’s actually a very comparable inline 6 to the BMW B58, just its way heavier and more overbuilt in terms of the block, internals should be very robust also

DOHC, both cams have fully independent timing that is infinitely variable, the intake and exhaust valves are very large in diameter so I’m assuming we’ll see some sport trims of the engine in the future

Also helps that they are large for flow

[sly elk]

?

lol I thought you said this, you know better than I do

[dire viper]

The wagoneer has issues just not power train ones

That’s what I’ve said

The issues it has are all electrical cause it’s a mess of modules from suppliers

It’s at its limit for what a manufacturer can do without bringing that stuff in house

If VW really does get the turn around they need with Rivian, expect Rivian to be in bed with every major automotive manufacturer

I’m sure Stellantis will be banging on the door

[late basalt]

not sure if anyone's replied yet, but if it's beeping in a pattern, google your motherboard/bios combo and "POST beep patterns" or similar. most of the time, those beeps can give you a decent clue on what the issue might be

[sly elk]

ye that's the part I don't really get

gm brought that stuff in house I think

my mom said the modern 4 door jeeps look like willys wagons

i think she's right lol 😄

[dire viper]

The only companies currently that designs every module or computer in house is Rivian and Tesla

GM outsources to everybody else

[late basalt]

Tfw the tool brand you use is “renewing” so the last few tools you need are on steep clearance

[sly elk]

Which one?

They all seem to be pushing new stuff

[late basalt]

walmart's old store brand, hyper tough

[sly elk]

oh ok

[late basalt]

gut feeling while at a walmart i rarely shop at, swung by the store aisle, got the 20v battery powered jigsaw and sawzall for $20 each

both came with 2.0Ah batteries that by themselves would cost $25

so i basically bought 2 discounted batteries and got free tools

[sly elk]

huzzah!

[paper tusk]

noticed that also. tempted to pick up a 3/8 impact for 20 for basic shit work since it does 160 footsies (problem is of course the pack in battery and shit charger)

the one that replaces it has a let's pretend to be useful, 2 speed selector, and actually nice 4 amp battery + fast charger for $55 that I might just go for instead (since the alt is playing QA roulette on a seesii makita clone 3/8 mini impact)

[sly elk]

https://www.stellpower.com/news-2024/walmart-going-with-brightdrop-for-new-delivery-program/
this doesn't really surprise me

if only a tiny bit disappointed because rivians look cooler but walmart out here uses EV transits for deliveries atm

fedex uses those brightdrop vans mostly

[paper tusk]

probably because Canoo is going to go bankrupt/stop operations this month

[sly elk]

yea

i've never seen a canoo on the road

i don't think

but the brightdrops do look ok and get the job done

with walmart, for a little bit out here the transit EVs disappeared and they were using white ram vans

but the transit EVs are back

i assume there was some kinda issue driving them of fthe road for a month or two

[devout sluice]

I do linux as well

[wild wyvern]

one of my ramdied apparently

[potent arrow]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GOTpkf4rVPQ

[wild wyvern]

@real edgeis there any good 1080p budget monitors?

[real edge]

IMO theres no reason to get a 1080p display nowdays when 1440p displays are so cheap and so much better

I can look

[wild wyvern]

really?

[real edge]

what country are you in

[wild wyvern]

MY

[real edge]

ohh malaysia

that changes things

tech prices suck there

uhhhh

[wild wyvern]

yeah it sucks ass

but atleast the r7 i told you was good pricing

[real edge]

I cannot even check prices on shoppee anymore cause it asks for login information

[wild wyvern]

😂 damn

it sucks lol

[real edge]

go through my 1440p displays

and see if any one

is cheap there

[wild wyvern]

i see

[real edge]

if they are too expensive for you

I can look into 1080p

[wild wyvern]

sures

[odd sand]

Really depends on how much you value framerate and what GPU you can afford.

I'd rather have 120fps @ 1080p than 75fps @ 1440p

[real edge]

you can always use upscaling to achieve that nowdays

tho FSR does not look great

[odd sand]

Ah yes, get the 1440p monitor, then rely on upscaling to turn it into a blurry artifacted mess to gain back the FPS...

[wild wyvern]

hmmm is an samsung monitor worth getting?

[real edge]

I wouldn't advise it

too many QC issues

[odd sand]

Used to be they were a slam dunk, but they've had massive QC problems across all their electronics and appliances for like 3-5 years now.

[wild wyvern]

qc?

[golden stream]

Quality control

[wild wyvern]

oh xD

[golden stream]

Their top of the line phones also have qc issue

[odd sand]

Quality control: Making sure the product actually functions as advertised and has a reasonable chance of outliving the warranty period without breaking...

[golden stream]

Fookin blaming third party charger for paint chip

[odd sand]

Their fridges and microwaves are expensive yet still break constantly

[golden stream]

Yes my Fold5 has paint chipped but it should not mean my warranty is voided

[wild wyvern]

which monitors are better?

[real edge]

the ones I have pinned

theres also the M27Q-A and Q-X by gigabyte, older models

and M27Q

but the M27QA is better and newer

so I just

put that there

[wild wyvern]

https://www.tmt.my/products/acer-nitro-kg241yp3-gaming-monitor

theres an msi monitor too

[real edge]

check shoppee

and lazada'

if you looked up the monitors I said

and they are too expensive

I can have a look myself

and look up some decent 1080p displays

so let me know

[wild wyvern]

https://shopee.com.my/AOC-24G4-23.8-FASTIPS-FHD-0.5Ms-180HZ-G-Sync-SUPER-COLOUR-HDR-10-HDMI2.0-DP-1.4-FULL-ERGONOMIC-STAND-GAMING-MONITOR-i.80769668.7111512624 this one isnt bad

from the 1080p monitor list from the yt video

@real edge

[real edge]

its certainly not bad for the price

not a fan of its response times but its 150$

I am guessing that you cannot go higher?

[wild wyvern]

nuuuu

[real edge]

[real edge]

ViewSonic XG2431 what price does this have over there

in dollarydoos

[wild wyvern]

thers no xg

[real edge]

ohh

uhh

the aoc one then

is a decent choice lol

[wild wyvern]

nope 1.6k myr

thats a no no

[real edge]

the AOC one?

whats 1.6k

[real edge]

get the AOC 1080p one

do not compromise too much on the display

or you are gonna regret it later

[wild wyvern]

the viewsonic

[real edge]

ohh

ohh yea 370 dollars

is too much

for a 1080p display

wtf is that price

[wild wyvern]

https://www.allithypermarket.com.my/collections/keyboards/products/gamdias-hermes-e1b-4-in-1-gaming-combo-mechanical-keyboard-blue-switch-mouse-mousepad-headset-3-5mm-audio?_pos=4&_fid=bec16ceca&_ss=c then i found a keyboard+mouse+ headset combo

[real edge]

make sure to adjust the overdrive settings when/if you get the aoc one

[wild wyvern]

overdrive?

[real edge]

yes

overdrive settings

in the display

[wild wyvern]

i see

[real edge]

each display has settings

you can access

through it

so if you get it make sure you change the OD setting to medium

👍

[odd sand]

Keychron makes fairly cheap no frills mechanical keyboards

Does Red Dragon make mechanicals? lol

[hazy frost]

I think they make mechanical ones they’re just not as good as some of the other cheap ones

Royal kludge and keychron is the best still afaik

[vague slate]

I can’t believe someone decided to name their company “Royal Kludge”

Keychron is really good if you want the ability to change switches but don’t want to go deep into the keyboard hobby money hole

[hazy frost]

It’s not the most appealing but that’s Chinese gaming companies for u

RK make hotswappable ones as well

They’re a bit cheaper as well but not as nice as the keychron ones

[inland mauve]

DaVinci Resolve decided to randomly link a whole bunch of clips in my video to a different source video

and I can't figure out how to link them back to the original source video

destroying hours of my owrk

I'm so done

[real edge]

[inland mauve]

the tool was fine for months but for the past four weeks it's just been nothing but trouble for some reason

it's constantly bugging out

so far I could always reverse what it did but now I am at risk of losing work every time I close it?

is this because I have one of those broken Intel CPUs?

is it caused by system instability?

I am apparently the only one with these issues

[lost python]

the only issue i personally have encountered so far was clips suddenly not playing anymore but that was fixed by a restart

i am just entirely convinced this aint a hardware problem anymore. you are just cursed

[inland mauve]

urgh

fine

I'll replace the CPU

is there a way to test CPU stability?

[sharp star]

Running something that runs on Unreal Engine

[lost python]

[sharp star]

Because a lot of the reported issues were on Unreal Engine

[lost python]

could probably download some of the free unreal engine demo scenes from epic

[inland mauve]

I mean an actual tool that will run a diagnostic of my CPU

similar to that disk health check tool that helped me discover a dead sector on my HDD

[lost python]

dont think we normies have access to such tools.
which is why people just do that or run render tests or prime95

[inland mauve]

bah

I will need to study up on AMD CPUs and mobos

do y'all have good recommendations?

[lost python]

wait for 9800x3d

[inland mauve]

my current system has a Z790 Gaming X, an Intel i7-13700KF, two sticks of 16GB DDR5 RAM

[inland mauve]

when is that coming out?

[lost python]

how fast is that ram

[lost python]

i think in like 3 days?

[inland mauve]

[lost python]

get some candles, incense and seals of purity ready though

[inland mauve]

the RAM is 5600 MHz apparently

I thought I got 6000 MHz

[lost python]

if the timings are fine too then you might get to keep it

however the 9000 series apparently supports much faster ram, but we will have to see how much it profits from it

[inland mauve]

I can try to resell the RAM or give it away

there's nothing wrong with it

I just really really wish I wasn't in this situation

where I have to second guess every technical issue because it might be the CPU

I emailed Black Magic Design to ask them if I can fix this issue in DaVinci at least

it doesn't make sense that this keeps happening

DaVinci has its quirks but it is an industrial tool used for Hollywood movies

[sharp star]

But yeah you can probably just download the Black Myth: Wukong benchmark on Steam and run it

[inland mauve]

oh Intel has a diagnostics tool

why do I not trust it

yeah it says my PC passed

[inland mauve]

okay but how would I be able to tell my CPU is unstable with that

[sharp star]

If it crashes

[inland mauve]

I had maybe one bluescreen a long time ago

but I have a lot of instability issues

for example one day the Move Image plugin for OBS just reduced my stream FPS from 60 to 12

it was completely fine for weeks

and then one day it wasn't

and now every time I reinstall it, it immediately starts causing the issues again

I also have a lot of issues with static build-up in audio rendered by the PC itself instead of an external DAC

just

all these small things all over the place

slowly getting worse

oh also when I run certain games it causes other applications like StreamAvatars and PNGTuber Plus to slow down horribly

coming to think of it

especially with Unreal games

[devout sluice]

Hey y'all

Can we talk about chatgpt.....

I'm so tired of hearing about how awesome AI is, chatgpt so often completely wastes my time with bullshit

[near tusk]

Super late response from my comment yesterday, but a few shots from a monthly local meet I attend:

[pine thistle]

that means nothing tbh, a lot of tooling used in the vfx industry loves to crash randomly when you hold it wrong

[potent arrow]

after effects blowing up is part of your experience as a creative

or Photoshop implosions

[pine thistle]

Houdini, Nuke, Maya are the same too

[cold yacht]

Photoshop randomly crashing

[pine thistle]

Maya will sometimes just consistently crash when trying to open a specific workfile, good luck trying to debug that when you can't even get a error message from it

[lost python]

and thats why i just stick to blender and it crashing and then refusing to work for the entire day but work perfectly fine the next for no fucking reason at all

[cold yacht]

Industry tool mostly mean we all agree to use this because we don’t want to flip flop

[dire viper]

There are ghosts in ur computer

[lost python]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-adeptus-mechanicus-mechanicus-warhammer-tech-priest-gif-14919800332216808310

i know

[inland mauve]

the worst part is the damage was at least limited to a single timeline

I am so glad I split my project up into several timelines now

and so terrified about what would have happened if I didn't

I would've lost an entire day of work instead

[golden stream]

I do chat some w JanitorAI and have BackyardAI self host in my laptop
They're ehhhhhhhhhhhhh okay

[wraith agate]

I just chat with real people

I guess I'm oldschool

[devout sluice]

That problem I had the other day, I watsed an entire day on garbage cause chatgpt had me doing completely the wrong things

[cold yacht]

The trick is don’t use ai

[devout sluice]

Yes that's what I've been saying

[golden stream]

^ mostly, but then my bf is busy, my ex is busy, my friends are in other timezone and 996 work ain't help

Still a weird writing assistance tools tho lol

[hazy frost]

idk why people use AI for most stuff when its just trained off internet results so its just as stupid as the person as king the question lol

theres tons of results on actual forums or articles for m ost stuff thats super easy to find

[sly elk]

because a lot of people are lazy but also stupid

not most, but a lot

[cold yacht]

I use ai tools that’s about it

[dire viper]

Didn’t apple publish a paper on how all AI sucks

I know it was targeted to combat the surge in stock value some companies are seeing but they had some of their engineers do it on their own and just asking about the shape and size of a kiwi broke most AI models lmao

Google and others just be straight up lying about how good the models are

[cold yacht]

As a tech company if you not doing AI you’re throwing money away

[hazy frost]

There’s some cool AI tools but like most of it sucks

Most of the good AI stuff is the stuff that doesn’t advertise itself as blatantly being AI

[cold yacht]

Pretty much

Like the denoise tool or object selection tool

[late basalt]

stick or slot? if lucky it's just a bad ram slot rather than the stick

[wraith agate]

No that's the opposite of lucky

RAM sticks are relatively cheap af

But if your slot dies, well that's terrible because it means you have to buy a new mobo

[modest moss]

AI is like social media, a useful tool if used carefully and selectively and absolute fucking trash if you are dumb

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/dHwtSh1A8ks?si=V1xgP_7ghWYgK4mL

SEMA wild this year

@potent arrow Toyota SUprabird

Richard Petty is the ambassador for Toyota in NASCAR now and he is the one who drove the Blue Superbird in NASCAR in the old days

[potent arrow]

What dat aufuck

AKJHDSkjahsd

[dire viper]

based on this car

or sorry

thats a replica

this one

holy fucking shiiiiiiiiiit toyota is COOKING this year

[potent arrow]

Hot damn

[modest moss]

this is sweet af

like something I'd have in my gta garage

[dire viper]

lmao real

[wild wyvern]

Idk if it's stick or mobo

But when I put the 2nd stick back it beeped again

I'm not sure if it's the mobo though

Can it be?

Or it's the stick

[late basalt]

Can be both or either. Otw home from work, more in ~30 if no one else chimes in first

[kind rune]

that looks like the king from cars 1

[dire viper]

yes

guess who voices him

Richard Petty

same guy who built and raced the car

[kind rune]

nice

[late basalt]

Ok, home and no longer busy. the way to test the motherboard is to take a known good stick of ram (ie the one you're currently using) and boot the pc using the stick in each ram slot on the motherboard. if all of them work fine, then the other ram stick is suspect. if any of the slots dont work with the good stick, run the test with the suspect stick as well to see if it works on any of the other slots.

[wild wyvern]

well its the ram i guess

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/s-lFgbzU3LY

[lost python]

oh boi

[inland mauve]

ah shit here we go

[lost python]

damn

also a good 6 seconds faster than my 7800x3d in stellaris

"so we tested thoroughly and checked in with other reviewers and came to the conclusion that this was not a testing error"

[sharp star]

what the fuck

what is this comically high performance uplift

[golden stream]

HOW IT COULD BE THAT HIGH

Comically high tho

[inland mauve]

HOLY SHIT

[lost python]

the minimum fps difference for 7800x3d vs 9800x3d is insane too

[inland mauve]

okay I'm definitely executing my plan to get rid of my 13700KF

moving it and my old mobo into my backup computer so I can turn that one into a NAS

and getting a 9800X3D and a compatible mobo for my current computer

[lost python]

iirc the 600 series boards still work for these so you may not even have to spend too much for a board

[sharp star]

yep

just needs a BIOS update

[lost python]

[golden stream]

The gain holy shit

[lost python]

a good bit better than the 7800x3d in productivity stuff too

[golden stream]

Assuming Cycle rendering, that's nice

[lost python]

ye they use cycles usually

interesting to see it lead the charts for photoshop though

man

[golden stream]

What is that comically high jump

[lost python]

HW unboxed tested quite a bit more games and god damn

average power consumption was apparently 90-95w

oh HW unboxed also tested different memory speeds

interestingly, there isnt much difference in performance between 6000 and 8000mhz. 2-5fps at best.

[golden stream]

Interesting

[inland mauve]

did they test the difference between 5600 and 6000?

[lost python]

nah they took 6000 as the mininum

[inland mauve]

[lost python]

probably gonna have to look into older benchmarks for that

[inland mauve]

wait a MSRP of $480???

[lost python]

oh yeah here, 7800x3d with different speeds:
not too much of a difference

but its there

some games lose like 10-15fps

[sharp star]

yeah X3D is less memory sensitive

[golden stream]

3d cache is stonk man

[hazy frost]

Worth it considering it’s better than everything by a LOT now

Even more so than the 7800x3d was at $450

[inland mauve]

fair enough

[hazy frost]

90w cpu that needs a $30 cooler and $80 ram to run at top stable performance

Vs the other option being Intel drawing over 100w needing a more expensive cooler and the best ram used in benchmarks is like $120

[inland mauve]

it needs less cooling than the 13700KF?

I have two Noctua coolers, one with a single grill and one with two grills

I'll leave the double grill on the 13700KF then

[hazy frost]

Yeah

The 9800x3d they changed the design so it can be cooled easier and allow overclocking for the first time on an x3d processor

So it should be even better than the 7800x3d which didn’t rly get hot at all

The 5800x3d definitely got hot tho

But that was doing like over 100w as well on the older architecture

[golden stream]

Do we know how much it draw when idling?

[hazy frost]

All the Thermalright dual tower coolers are just the best thing to buy anyway

It’ll cool basically everything for $40

[golden stream]

Bc ngl 7800x3d is quite toasty in SFF

[potent arrow]

I can't even recommend deep cool anymore ;-;

[hazy frost]

30w

[potent arrow]

I can't wait to put it in my case and cause a thermonuclear explosion

[hazy frost]

It’s like 2w less than the 7800

[potent arrow]

they change the location of one of the units on the die right?

[hazy frost]

9800x3d gets hotter under full load but in games it should be better than the 7800

[hazy frost]

They moved the cache so that it’s being cooled more directly

I’m very excited that u can OC the x3d processors now still

[potent arrow]

shits gonna cook

[hazy frost]

The only thing beating them before was an OCd i9 lol

It seems like the 9800x3d can draw a lot of power if ur doing actual MC work and not gaming but that comes with the fact its significantly better for productivity based tasks now too

So I’d take the trade off

In games it’s still <100w

[golden stream]

Impressive

Prob heavy works like renderong would be >100w

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s about 150w for that

[golden stream]

Still need watercool for sff hmmm

[hazy frost]

So not more than the 7700x was

Which it’s better than anyway

[golden stream]

Unless naked case/setup

[hazy frost]

I mean LF3 is also great now and not expensive for a 240

It’s like $60

Or the LF2 might be a bit less and the pump noise has a nicer tone imo

[golden stream]

No no I mean, cramping watercool in SFF case

[potent arrow]

I'm gonna try and get a billet lab sample

for my next sff

because I hate myself

[golden stream]

LMAO

[potent arrow]

not even joking

it's gonna be fun

[hazy frost]

I’m still waiting for 9900x3d…

[golden stream]

I do want Xtia naked setup but I may adopt my pal's cat so uh

Need a proper cat-proof setup

[hazy frost]

My cat proofing involves shutting the door to the room so it can’t get near my pc

[golden stream]

Lol I don't have that luxury

I'm thinking of meshlicious, it's pretty spacey for watercooling and some storages lol

[odd sand]

That said, I heard most people would only get like a 200mhz uplift from OC. Which isn't much, but it's not nothing I suppose.

[hazy frost]

200mhz over base is what 700 over the 7800x3d tho too

For turbo clock

We’ll have to see how things go

Apparently tho 9000 has handled 6400mt ram better since they came out so I’d wanna know how the 9800x3d handles that

[odd sand]

The one interesting difference between AMD and Intel atm though is the talk of 8000-8400MT CUDIMM kits for Intel.

I wonder if there are certain workloads where that will be favorable to Intel

[hazy frost]

I wonder if thatll make up for the gap between Intel and current AMD CPUs anyway

Apparently that is what u need to be faster than the 9950x on 6000mt

Lmao

But then ur also spending extortionate amounts more on that to beat it so idk

7200mt one costs £25 more than 6000 and 8200 is even worse

For 32gb kits

[dire viper]

@potent arrow car idea. Mazda 3 Turbo AWD

If they are a reasonable price

They have full true torque vectoring iirc

So they just have infinite traction in snow

[odd sand]

At the same time, using the top of the line "Core i9" for gaming is kinda a square peg in a round hole anyways. It has so many more cores etc. than are necessary for gaming. It's always been that the x700K or even x600K were just as good for gaming or better for a lot cheaper.

[dire viper]

God Mazda needs to make a new Mazda 6 with the i6 hybrid powertrain out of the CX-90

Imagine that

Thing would be a rocket

[odd sand]

They've been begged to make another Speed series for like 10 years now, no dice.

[hazy frost]

Technically it doesn’t rly have more P cores than u need bc games can use 8

And E cores are shit for gaming

But yeah

A lot of people had been buying them for gaming before anyway

[odd sand]

In part bc Intel usually made the 900K turbo to like 500mhz higher than any other CPU.

[dire viper]

That kinda marketing doesn’t work that well especially with how often stuff gets scalped, GR Corolla is still in that realm where it’s been forced high enough it makes zero sense to buy one

[golden stream]

Dunno, prob there are some jank weird stuff in some particular workflow
Actually I should try Inkscape again, somehow it had weird bug on AMD but not on intel

[hazy frost]

I just wish Intel would stop pushing the E cores when it’s so clearly premature lol

And dropping hyper threading just cause

The E cores don’t scale nearly as well as if they’d continued with full P core CPUs even tho they’ve managed to make them still work

[golden stream]

What about the intel idle atm?

Like, in general?

[hazy frost]

It’s not that good

The ultra 285k is the best high end one and still sitting a bit over 50w too

For me I’m not using it idle enough to care about the 10-15w differences on idle

The 50-100w in actual usage is way more important

[golden stream]

Fair, ye, that's where most task in load

Seems AMD been having w in idle and load for now, assuming same floor and ceiling for same task

But the ~50-100W, not much info atm hmmm

[hazy frost]

I mean 9800x3d using 150w at most which is what the 265k does which is worse at gaming and probably a bit better at other stuff

285k uses up to 250w on MC

Graph

More real world usage graph

[kind rune]

thats almost double of my cpu

[hazy frost]

My 7700x is still in the top half

I’ll take it

Not far off the 285k lmao

[modest moss]

I ignore any chart that doesn't list my 12700k

[kind rune]

My 11700k isn't on here either but I think people forgot about it anyway

[odd sand]

7800X3D only uses 48W??

[dire viper]

I thought it used more

[kind rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzdV8lR82N4

[hazy frost]

It uses more in games

[dire viper]

@potent arrow

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/VNCdR68LTPg?si=aSo1zixrO4t3g4rW

[wild wyvern]

waddafak fr?

[odd sand]

9800X3D is tempting, but I really don't need it. 13900K is still plenty for my purposes. I'll probably spring for the 10800X3D though, assuming it's similarly an uplift over 9800X3D.

[real edge]

if the gpu will actually let you see a big uplift

well

in games

[wild wyvern]

im stuttering so much in xiv atm with only 8gb ram

[odd sand]

Sure, but a surprising amount of gaming is still CPU-bound, hence the large FPS gains from the 3D cache

[wild wyvern]

i stutter like hell on trials ughhhh

[wild wyvern]

whats the best budget nvme drive

[real edge]

uhhhh

well

TEAMGROUP Z440 Lite 2 TB

get a big fast one and forget about storage

👍

see if its in the malaysian markets

[wild wyvern]

why?

[real edge]

wdym why

you have one big one

it lasts for 10+ years

can put all ur games there

for the fastest load times

and

teamgroup is relatively cheap

check out prices

uhh

I assume you want to buy one

since you asked

[wild wyvern]

i dont see the z440

i know of lexar nm790

[real edge]

wtf is lexar

uhh no lets go with something else

sec

[wild wyvern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi62VqVicGk

[real edge]

see how much the corsair mp600 ssds cost

[wild wyvern]

https://www.tmt.my/products/corsair-mp600-core-xt-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-gen4-ssd

2tb is almost 1k

@real edge

[real edge]

jesus fuck

uhhhhhh

try western digital black SN850X

or SN770

[wild wyvern]

rm 779 2tb

for sn770

850x is rm 800+

@real edge

[real edge]

why the fuck is it 50% more expensive

than the US and EU

[real edge]

try the crucial p5 plus

[wild wyvern]

nada

not here

xD

[real edge]

crucial p3 plus

[lost python]

kingston kc3000

[wild wyvern]

but 2tb is sold out xDDDD

expensiiiive

xD

[lost python]

jeez

for reference, i paid like the same price for the 4tb version when i upgraded my pc earlier this year

[wild wyvern]

some are cheaper

is 1tb enuff for storting games or is 2tb better

[real edge]

well I went through the whole stack of cheaper SSDs lol

[real edge]

what about the crucial mx500

it has an m.2 variant but its not that fast

[wild wyvern]

its fine but no 2tb variant

[real edge]

Acer Predator GM7000

see how much that costs

[wild wyvern]

nit that bad

[real edge]

...thats supposed to be a high end expensive ssd

...but its the cheapest

[wild wyvern]

rm 600 without the heatsink

[real edge]

get the one with the heatsink

2TB

[real edge]

idk why the fuck that is cheap

[wild wyvern]

there is this

[real edge]

ill look it up

thats a good one but not worth the extra money

[wild wyvern]

https://www.tmt.my/products/adata-legend-960-max-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-gen4-ssd this?

[real edge]

no adata

they suck

the team group one is good

acer predator one has a dodgy controller

the team group one is more reliable

so

gotta ask yourself the question

a bit extra reliability or less of a price?

[wild wyvern]

reliable ofc

but uh

the heatsink might be large xD

[real edge]

that shouldn't be that much of an issue

[real edge]

look in lazada and shoppee as well

the western digital SN850X and crucial p5 plus drives

might find a good deal in those two sites

[wild wyvern]

ADATA uis famous here tho

xD

[real edge]

adata is adogshit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzdV8lR82N4

overpriced underperformer

[wild wyvern]

@real edge still over priced

[wild wyvern]

also

https://shopee.com.my/product/58359596/25620215363?gads_t_sig=VTJGc2RHVmtYMTlxTFVSVVRrdENkWVp3RFo3Mkw5czd4Z0hzdEF1WVFibjZnWG9RNS81ODFwRE14WFNCb2IzTGFYaTVwdXMxMTdOY3puVVlrUHRIRWltbXJlbVZ0RlU0S1FDVm8zd2llbHNpNFpIakJ3ZmdSejZRSiszb1BGeFU&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIye6-z5PKiQMVFaRmAh3GbROwEAQYAiABEgJsAPD_BwE

im prob getting this one

[real edge]

I cannot access shopee

what is that

[lost python]

i can

[real edge]

ohh god

please no

do not buy such a bad monitor

don't cheap out on it

just get the AOC one

ull be staring at it all day

it needs to be half decent

[wild wyvern]

but my local tech reviewer is reccomending it

[real edge]

spend extra on a good monitor

its worth it

I spent 600euro on mine and did not regret it

I know you cannot afford 4k oled 1k$ display

but a decent 150-200$ display

should be good enough

[hazy frost]

It’s one of the models recommended in countries where its monitors are more expensive because it meets the bare minimum requirements to be used as a monitor even tho it’s pretty awful

[lost python]

nice

[inland mauve]

nice

[sharp star]

https://www.threads.net/@wario64/post/DCEp5HGN879?xmt=AQGz371yGkGFERHG54nIEsoAfGn8D5RDFwM3qwyo5tPNLQ

Yeah I think I got that treat I said I wanted

[inland mauve]

[lost python]

[sharp star]

looks like the 9800X3D went out of stock almost immediately

[potent arrow]

I was gonna but it meant I need to buy ram and a mobo...

[real edge]

I think I will wait until I have to rebuild my whole PC (gpu + cpu) before upgrading anything again

the margins of upgrading my cpu will not be high enough because its a 4080super

[hazy frost]

Upgrading with the x3d ones makes the 1% and 0.1% lows a lot better anyway so I’ll probably get one even tho I don’t play a game where my cpu is the issue yet

[kindred brook]

is it worth from going from a 12700k to a 9800x3d if I have a 4080

[sharp star]

sure

[real edge]

hm

depends on the game

[sharp star]

but it also depends on your definition of “worth it”

[real edge]

but in more cpu bound games ull see an uplift

[kindred brook]

mycurrent daily games

are

[real edge]

the 3D vcache is also really good

[kindred brook]

Wuwa/HSR/FFXIV/Arkngihts/ZZZ

but I'll occasionally play like MGSV Phantom Pain

[real edge]

the 5800x3d beats the latest intel cpu and 14900k in some games cause of the vcache

[kindred brook]

lol

[real edge]

for like 4/5 games it doesn't matter lol

[sharp star]

the 9800X3D will eat just about anything alive

[real edge]

but for ffxiv

ull see an uplift

[kindred brook]

hmm ok

[real edge]

but its also an MMO

so think if the uplift will do anything for you

[dire viper]

Raz listed games that already run great on few year old hardware

MGSV is a PS3 release

[kindred brook]

I would like to be at a stable 4k 120 fps though

[golden stream]

Eh, your CPU is fineeeeeee

[dire viper]

Fairly certain MGSV is capped at 60?

Engine issues

[kindred brook]

hmmm

[golden stream]

Save ur $ for other things and more other things if you're ib US, gotta anticipate hiking in prices

[kindred brook]

what about Elden Ring

[dire viper]

You’d need the good new hardware for Elden ring

[sharp star]

also capped

[golden stream]

Elden Ring isn't that graphic intense

[dire viper]

It is intense in what’s going on

I’ve had some dips in it

[golden stream]

Oh ye that

[dire viper]

When there is a billion things going on lmao

[golden stream]

Prob the better benchmark is the monke game and MHWild

[dire viper]

Honestly tho Elden Rings lows are fairly decent

[golden stream]

Me lowest on steam deck, chill bingchilling

[dire viper]

I’m on a 3070 and 5600X and it runs perfectly 99% of the time

Most games do unless they’re brand new and not a COD game

Somehow COD games have stayed stable

Only time my game drops substantially is in zombies on high rounds where there is 150 zombies on my screen and 15 manglers

By substantially my shit goes from 144 to 40

[golden stream]

That's a weird metric there but ok

Have you tried MHWild demo in your setup yet?

and also speaking of Wild
https://x.com/kage_mh/status/1854168944552169790?s=46&t=o5-xYtMyYYbhqDFchbu-LA

Kage (@Kage_MH) on X

Apparently wilds beta has forced ray tracing on, newer builds of the game don't have that
We are saved

Twitter · Nov 6, 2024, 2:28 PM

[dire viper]

Consider you have 150+ entities all on there own little thinking block and they’re all constantly deciding what to do, it’s surprising it’s not more intensive

[dire viper]

I don’t expect it to actually run good ever

MH team took like 2 years to do a baby fix for World

[dire viper]

@potent arrow buy this

BMW M2 Racing

Coming out next year as a factory clubsport car, not street legal

The previous clubsport car was cooler tho

[inland mauve]

oh that explains why I had no problems but some of my friends did

[sly walrus]

what the fuck is that paintjob

[dire viper]

Promotional one

It’s the zebra paint job they do for testing but they’ve swapped the colors out for the launch of it

This is one of the other ones they did

[modest moss]

Raz loves spending money he doesn't need to spend

[potent arrow]

any iPhone people here?

is the base 15 still ok to buy?

[cold yacht]

Yeah it’s pretty alright

Then again I’m not much of a power user of my phone

[potent arrow]

I'm not either

I use mine for work, discord and porn

lol

[cold yacht]

Same

[potent arrow]

I've been on the 2nd gen iPhone for years

and I'm down to 30 mins of battery life

[hazy frost]

I’d still just buy the 14 bc the 15 and 16 are the same thing

[kind rune]

this is false information

[hazy frost]

Or the 14 plus will give u better battery life if u don’t hate big phones

[potent arrow]

I'm gonna use my phone for.anothwr like 5-6 years lol

[cold yacht]

Do you want USBc or lightning

[potent arrow]

and I need USB C

[hazy frost]

Why do u need usb C

[potent arrow]

I can't get a big phone

[hazy frost]

If u have an old iPhone already ur already not using usb C

[potent arrow]

my hand is too small for my SE

[cold yacht]

Probably cause all the new stuff she has are on c

How fuckin tiny are you

[potent arrow]

I come from an Android

my iPhone is work phone now

all my shit is usb c

[hazy frost]

Just get another android the base model iPhones are pretty shit still

[potent arrow]

it's none sense for me not to try and get rid of lightning

[hazy frost]

If anything wait for the new SE coming out

[cold yacht]

I’m chill with my 15

[potent arrow]

nah I like the ease of use on the phone tbb

so 15

[hazy frost]

Or the new SE

lol

[potent arrow]

when is that coming out? next week? cuz my phone dies mid teams call

I got work to do lol

[hazy frost]

I just think the 15 isn’t close to worth what it costs

It’s not a very good phone

[potent arrow]

I'm not spec peeking a device that's only gonna be used for texting and calling lol

it just needs to have good battery life and reliable

so uh iPhone 15

[hazy frost]

I mean your case kind of makes it even worse bc ur paying extortionate amounts for a phone that sucks anyway

If ur so set on it why’d u ask bc clearly you’re buying it anyway

[potent arrow]

I'm asking between the 15 and 16

[cold yacht]

Get the 15

16 main draw is “AI”

[potent arrow]

that's all I need to know lol

[hazy frost]

Get the 16 for the base model ones if u wanna keep it longer

[potent arrow]

yeah fogured

[hazy frost]

16 has the A18 from the A16 and more ram

[potent arrow]

99lb 4'9 ft Asian lady

[hazy frost]

And a bigger battery

And better wireless charging

[cold yacht]

I would’ve thought you were like 5’5

[potent arrow]

no lol

my bf bought me a small sweater in the states and its baggy on me

[hazy frost]

US small is bigger than what I wear in the UK as well tbh

[potent arrow]

Viet genes are great

[cold yacht]

Til sara is a goblin that shouldn’t be trusted with appliances

[potent arrow]

oh cool I get 400$ credit

so

599$ for base iPhone 15

[hazy frost]

I’d still get the 16

[cold yacht]

That’s how much I’m paying

[potent arrow]

700$ for base 16

CAD

[hazy frost]

Worth

[cold yacht]

I turned in my broken 13

[hazy frost]

Battery is genuinely a lot better on the 16 than 15

[potent arrow]

my phone is worth 60$ trade in LOL

[cold yacht]

And I put it on my Apple Card

[hazy frost]

I tried to trade my X in and they offered £30

[cold yacht]

So 0% apr

[hazy frost]

So I just kept it

Tbh with iPhones base model the new one is almost always worth it but with the pro last years or 2 models ago is better bc they are already overspecced

[cold yacht]

I usually stick to base models

[hazy frost]

Waiting for the day Apple put a not 60hz display on their base model bc god damn it sucks

Apples displays on the pro models are falling behind the competition atm too tbh

[hazy frost]

I used to have them but with the pros being 120hz and camera being so much better now I got one

[cold yacht]

120hz screen to pointless to me

Yeah it’s smooth but for what

Most videos I watch are 30fps

Or 24

[hazy frost]

General use 120 is still a lot nicer

[cold yacht]

Eh

[hazy frost]

It is

If u use a phone with a better display for a week and went back it’s horrible

60 is like bare minimum of acceptable for using it that Apple has stuck to

Which is rly frustrating when most android base models have better displays in every aspect atp

[cold yacht]

Yeah personally it’s a eh

Do I want to pay extra for it? Most likely no

[hazy frost]

U shouldn’t have to pay extra for it Apple just suck in this case

[cold yacht]

Is having a nicer camera on my phone good? Yeah probably

Though when I take pictures I use my actual camera

[hazy frost]

I take my actual camera if I know I’m going to take pictures but it’s also cumbersome and I don’t always plan to take photos

But I always have my phone on me

In general last years pro is just this years base model with better specs anyway and u can still buy both at the same time

So I just did that

[potent arrow]

aight purchased a base 15 lol

I'll pick it up later

[cerulean talon]

Welcome to the dark side.

[cold yacht]

Based

[cerulean talon]

The only issue I really run into w/ my iphone is that it's a bit small.

[cold yacht]

Base models are perfect size for me

[potent arrow]

the phone seems like it's too big for my hands

[cerulean talon]

Pro max is a bit smol.

[potent arrow]

but I'll have to get used to it

[cerulean talon]

I was glad they upped the size a bit, but it could be a bit larger tbh.

[cold yacht]

Being 5’6 with larger than normal hands weirdly

[potent arrow]

I have to use both hands for my SE LOL

[cerulean talon]

You and your tiny hands.

[cold yacht]

I’m still considering getting a Mac mini or trading in my MacBook

[hazy frost]

The normal ones are already too big for me before they got bigger

[sly elk]

eh

[hazy frost]

6.1” is enough for my hands

[cerulean talon]

Normal phones are far too small for me.

[cold yacht]

My current 2012 MacBook Pro is mostly homework machine for me

[sly elk]

i don't really care about phone size like

[hazy frost]

I literally can’t use the max ones bc of the size

[sly elk]

i can't really use anything modern with 1 hand

[hazy frost]

Too big

[sly elk]

so

whatever

the big phones get annoying in the pocket sometimes

[cerulean talon]

If they were a bit bigger, 1 handed would be much eaiser for me.

[sly elk]

i like my fold4 for the shape lol

since it's narrower when closed

[hazy frost]

I can use the 6.1” phones in one hand mostly

[cerulean talon]

As it stands, I have issues folding my thumb enough to hit keys on the close side.

[sly elk]

lol can you hold an ipad with 1 hand

[hazy frost]

I’m probably gonna get a pixel 10 pro if they continue the small one

[cerulean talon]

Yes.

[sly elk]

codingway sounds like a basketball player

[cerulean talon]

6'3" all day erryday.

[sly elk]

giant hands

[cerulean talon]

I'm generally more built like a tall linebacker.

[sly elk]

mine are on the smaller side

[hazy frost]

6’3” hand span is crazy

[sly elk]

the one thing I have in common with that guy

[cold yacht]

So lil shorter than average nba player

[hazy frost]

I’m 5’4

And have average hands ig

[cerulean talon]

I mean, one hand can reach across the main bits of a keyboard.

[cold yacht]

I’m 5’6 but I bring 5’10 energy

[cerulean talon]

It's highly annoying when shifting to things like a laptop where the keys are far too small.

[hazy frost]

I’m 5’4 but my friends thought I was shorter

Unless I accidentally measured myself while wearing shoes then ig I’d be 5’2 or 3

[cold yacht]

I wear a lot of boots and dress shoes

[sly elk]

laptop keyboards are pretty similar in size to desktop ones usually?

[hazy frost]

I wear mostly trainers bc they’re comfortable to be standing in for a long time and I’m not at work atm lol

If I go out I squeeze into something mildly painful that makes me not short

[cerulean talon]

They're generally slightly more narrow, usually due to cutting down the chicklet keys a bit.

[hazy frost]

They’re smaller

Even I don’t like typing on laptop keyboards

[cerulean talon]

IE: My pinky -> thumb on my TKL is caps to :, on my laptop, it's caps to enter.

[sly elk]

idk what keyboards you guys are using lol

or laptops

i just took my mac keyboard and overlayed it on my other and they're about the same size

and that keyboard's the same size as my laptop's keyboard

[cold yacht]

I use a razer black widow

[cerulean talon]

Drop CTRL nominally.

[hazy frost]

I have a legion S7

[sly elk]

the standard mech keyboard keycaps are usually narrow at the top

[cerulean talon]

Microsoft no longer makes my favourite keyboard ;.;

[sly elk]

so the keys look bigger but they're smaller and have bigger gaps

[hazy frost]

I might get the Apple keyboard for when I have long nails lol

[sly elk]

microsoft no longer makes keyboards at all

[hazy frost]

Can’t type on my usual one like that

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, I know, the MS ergo was my jam for literally a decade.

[sly elk]

they sold their mouse/keyboard division to i think case logic?

[hazy frost]

But it’s like £80

[cerulean talon]

I miss them. 😦

Used to destroy 3 of them a year, it was good times.

[sharp star]

Keychron Q3 QMK over here

[cold yacht]

I use to have a cooler master but switches started to break after a year

[hazy frost]

I have a steelseries keyboard for desktop still

I rly wanna get rid of it but it’s still alive somehow

And I don’t wanna replace it while it works

[dire viper]

Alright keyboard nerds

Anybody know of a full size keyboard that’s got nice switches but is quiet

That’s also cheap :)

My work one is a shitty Microsoft one that you can’t even feel when you press the keys cause it’s so mushy

[signal fable]

depends what you mean for cheap

[hazy frost]

Keychron V6 is ‘cheap’ in terms of a good keyboard

[sharp star]

https://bsky.app/profile/wario64.bsky.social/post/3laexrsqfzk23

[dire viper]

Sub 100 dollars to me is cheap for a keyboard

wtf does fully assembled knob mean

On Keychron lmao

Me knob

[cerulean talon]

Nah, use it for openwall or something classy.

I need to upgrade talia this winter I think.

She could use dual processors and more RAM.

We'll see tho.

Yeah, but intel.

Meh.

Just get 2x 96 core AMD's and get it over with.

(That's my plan)

I'll take 9654's, thanks.

Though I'm not sure I want to see what a chassis for them would cost.

The new house /does/ have 400a service, and I can get 3 phase here..

So there might be room for a rack somewhere.

[dire viper]

Whar

[hazy frost]

You don’t need to assemble the knob yourself

[cerulean talon]

208 is single phase normally.

[hazy frost]

Very convenient

[cerulean talon]

3 phase would be 400v.

You canadians are weird.

[dire viper]

Canadians r weird yea

They use km/h even

Despicable

[cerulean talon]

120/208 is single phase in the US, then 400-ish v is three-phase.

Mind you, US single phase 208 is two phase, we just lie about it >.>

[dire viper]

400v outlet for my fucking industrial air compressor I only use for drying cars

Twin screw compressors are awesome

[cerulean talon]

The last owner here had a super janky 60a 208 connection.

12kw on an ungrounded 3 prong.

[dire viper]

What’s funny is I used to know all the funny electrical stuff cause I went to school for it but then dropped out

I’ve been to school for accounting, airframe and power plant maintenance, automotive and electrical engineering

Dropped out of all

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, 208 single phase.

That's normal.

[dire viper]

600v

Huh

What is that for

[cerulean talon]

It's probally some weird 3 phase setup.

208 is also "single" phase.

xD

It can't be 3 phase.

The voltage is wrong.

A L-L 120v single phase to a second 120v single phase is where you get your 208 from.

We call it "single" phase 208, but it's auctually dual-phase.

So it's not true 3-phase.

To the meter mabe.

Wild.

That makes absolutely no sense unless you're splitting phases at the plug.

Time to purge canada for their weird power systems, not the single-phase 208 is much better in terms of description.

Purge that heresy.

Could be worse, could be 50hz memes.

Yeah.

I need 2 of them.

.>

Honestly, Talia's chassis is kinda meh, and I'd like to redo artica too into something a bit bigger.

So it might be hardware upgrade time now that I'm settling in.

Cryptocurrency stuff, like I always am.

I was thinking about picking up a bunch auctually

https://www.ebay.com/itm/116197964753 This is a serious consideration tbh.

250 SSD's would make a quality storage array.

What? 75$ a pop?

25k isn't that bad for drives.

Most of your storage array cost is going to be in them anyway.

[dire viper]

Should I be going on eBay and buying discounted enterprise hardware and then reselling for more to unsuspecting people

[cerulean talon]

Besides, hdd's are like 400$ a pop for any decent size ones.

[dire viper]

I will buy every Xeon CPU on the market

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, I can pick up 2-3Tb drives for like a hundred bucks in SSD's, and a couple hundred tb of ssd's isn't too bad.

Screw SAS.

So expensive and power hungry for no reason.

Probally, JBOD's are kinda ez.

I'm seriously considering just getting the 36 bay SM chassis and rebuilding artica into it.

The motherboard she's on rn has BMC issues, so I kinda want to swap to something eaiser.

They usually have good stuff too.

I like unixsurplus quite a bit.

That's unixplus, not unixsurplus. xD

Though I auctually think they're the same company

Tbh, I'll probally just get a semi-built X10DRH-iT and upgrade it's processors and such.

It's that or just buy some drive shelves.

Drive shelves are probally the right answer, though the broken BMC is problematic.

Ooooh.

No?

Dells are because dells blow the fuses.

But they're the exception, not the norm.

Dell does the same thing to xeons btw.

xD

HP used to be bad about it, but they kinda gave up.

Tbh, I wish the JBOD expanders weren't quite so loud.

That's the one thing that keeps me from running the really big one.

[odd sand]

https://www.techspot.com/news/105473-amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-cpu-benchmark-leaked-expected.html

Wonder if that one will have the same dual CCD issue the 7950X3D does

[sly elk]

macys does not appear to realize that 'keep me signed in' means keep me signed in

not make me sign in every 8 frigin hours

ha wtf

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJVRVGS1

Wireless Control: Utilizes next-gen 2.4 GHz technology for seamless and reliable operation and highly customizable addressable RGB extension cable for PC lighting effects.

WHY

ITS A DAMN CABLE

[odd sand]

My friend's mortgage payment site makes him reset his pw every 2 months and cannot re-use pws...

[sly elk]

i love the utility bill companies that make you use 2fa

and then that kinda stuff

[odd sand]

I know Cablemod has had RGB cables for awhile now, but as far as why are they wifi? Bc it's probably not reasonably feasible to have a mgmt lead running to the control module, and most people like to have all their RGB centrally managed.

[sly elk]

that lian li cable? I have the older version of it, there's a like 3 wire lead that comes off one end of the cable

it goes to a controller, yea

it does allow flexibility of where you put the controller and less wiring I guess

but it just seems kinda schizo to use wireless for this application

[odd sand]

I have wifi enabled lightbulbs so 🤷‍♀️

Although their basic functionality works without using it at all (which I assume is also true of that cable)

I got bulbs that have a soft light and white light mode that you can switch between them by turning it on, then off for 1 sec then on again.

So I use them in my bedroom bc that's where my WFH space is. So white light for the day, and soft light for normal bedroom use

[sly elk]

I feel like that's different though

like my computer is full of rgb cables

the ends of the strimer cable are literally inches from the controller

[odd sand]

I assume it's fairly low power though

[sly elk]

the only two upsides of this setup are that it eliminates some annoying cables

(which apparently the fans are also wireless now)

[odd sand]

Also an RGB cable like that is probably $100 so they know their market doesn't care about excess...

[sly elk]

sooo I guess if you go full lian li, you get rgb without the extra wires

.... ya know what, I guess that's nice

69.99

[odd sand]

Lian-Li patented a wireless fan-linking tech, yeah. They sued Corsair over it, was it?

[sly elk]

idk

[dire viper]

Oh the knob on the keychrons is just a knob you can set up, that’s kinda cool

[sly elk]

i wonder what i paid for mine now

[odd sand]

You essentially dock them on the sides like legos and it has metal contacts that propagate the power between

[dire viper]

Idk if I need a knob, probably will just buy a full keyboard they have with the red switches so it’s quiet

[odd sand]

red switches
quiet

[sly elk]

ah damn my cables were close to $60 a piece

tbh though they provide more bling than rgb fans do

eheehee i like how over the top the lian li fans get though

with the little screen in the hub

[odd sand]

Oh I guess I'm thinking of blues or blacks. The reds are browns but without the tactile bump so eehhh...

[sly elk]

that's like golden toilet levels of excess

[dire viper]

Hey the keychron switches say the red ones are quiet

[odd sand]

Honestly, the noise level has more to do with keycaps and how much weight/dampening you have behind the switch

[sly elk]

ha i've seen some switches that were incredibly loud

[dire viper]

[sly elk]

i think kalih bronze?

[dire viper]

As long as it’s not the same volume as my Razer keyboard we good

That thing is fucking obnoxiously loud

But I always have my headphones on

[odd sand]

ABS are thin and brittle, and if it's a plastic bezel with no dampener behind it, it will still be kinda noisy even for the reds.

[sly elk]

imho when it comes to obnoxiously loud keyboards the ole' IBM model M with buckling springs takes the cake

because above all else those fucking springs don't make consistent sounds

[odd sand]

If you want to dampen the sound, get PBT keycaps with an aluminum bezel and make sure there is a padded gasket

[sly elk]

also abs keycap stems wear out real easy

so you end up with keycaps falling/flinging off

[hazy frost]

if u want quiet the best thing to do is some mods yourself tbh

none come rly quiet

[sly elk]

(also whatever keycaps corsair makes do that LOL, pbt or abs)

[hazy frost]

somehow the ABS keycaps i have are fine just a bit shiny after the last few years lol

[sly elk]

i use kalih silver i think on my dygma raise and they sound fairly quiet

[odd sand]

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