technology-discussion

[cerulean talon]

Needs a few more cores, then I’m very interested

[sharp star]

9950X3D when

[cerulean talon]

Probably just a 9900 for me tbh

[hazy frost]

9900 should actually be faster than the 9800 this time as well

I’m still a 7900x3d hater

[sharp star]

god I hope

[hazy frost]

Having the cache on one CCD is so stupid

But people still think it’s good

[sharp star]

I put all my games on the 3D cache CCD and everything that isn't on the non-cache CCD in Process Lasso

[hazy frost]

12 faster cores with extra cache would be awesome I’d probably buy it if I’m going to get more into photography and stuff again

[hazy frost]

It’s just a pain that u even have to do that on a $500+ cpu

[sharp star]

yeah

[hazy frost]

It’s not as bad on the 7950x3d bc it’s one 8 core CCD like the 7800x3d but still has some of those issues

I have a 7700x and 7800x3d would be a downgrade for anything not gaming as well

Is the 9900/9950 even going to come out before early 2025 now

[celest violet]

I'm still on am4 and I'm trying to stick it out till 2026 at least 😭

Gotta hope my 5900x can last

Tbf the only games that are coming out that I'm interested in are silent hill 2, shadow generations, ff16, and rebirth

[real edge]

push comes to shove

the 5700x3d is a significant improvement

and on sale its like 130-150 bucks

for games at least

[dire viper]

Mayhaps I get a 5700X3D

My 5600X is still going strong

[sharp star]

Yes

[dire viper]

@potent arrow VW Beetle RSi Cup

Ran an H pattern box

[kind rune]

62k?

[sly elk]

needs the flower holder

[sly elk]

huh

onboard raid?

https://www.reddit.com/r/framework/comments/yq6f6w/the_driver_detected_a_controller_error_on/

interesting post here on that

you probabyl alreadu found it xD

are you using WDs?

LOL this

https://jalopnik.com/fords-lifetime-air-filters-might-be-the-worst-engineeri-1851678545

only ford could do something this horrible

[inland mauve]

I had to double check that Hank hadn't returned

[sly elk]

i'm lazy though lol 😄 my jeep has 4 shitty screws holding on the airbox cover. Well, now it has 3 because I lost one of them 😄

i've been thinking about tossing a cone filter on there because i fucking hate the airbox

but cone filters suck

yepyep

yay!

[sly elk]

this is a lot of dash cam

[kind rune]

ive been getting some weird artifacts recently

a small green line will randomly flash for .1 seconds every so often and im not sure whats happening

[dire viper]

unplug and plug back in

if ur on DP, DP is shit

my shit just be doin dat

and its just the cable lol

[kind rune]

i am on dp

displayport that is

i cant use hdmi because my other monitor can only use hdmi and my gpu only has 1 hdmi port

it didnt show up until after i switched to dp so it might indeed be that

[sly elk]

TIL it's totally legal for a business to put emergency exit doors that only work when the fire alarm has been set off

as long as there isn't more than a 30 second delay in total

so that's nice

weird

[shadow oracle]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-23/arm-to-cancel-qualcomm-chip-design-license-in-escalation-of-feud

[sly elk]

idk, I usually use crucial drives these days

they still sell em on amazon here

i see 990 evo and 870 evo

[odd sand]

Newegg has them...?

They apparently have an Evo Plus now that is backordered

The price diff between the Evos and Pros has shrunk significantly as well. There isn't much reason not to go with the Pro these days

$20 diff between Evo Plus and Pro 2TB model.

[sly elk]

man i wish i'd known this before x_X

but the way samsung curves the odyssey g9s is weird

only the middle segment is actually curved

[lost python]

did you get a g9?

[sly elk]

i've had one since january lol

the like outer 25% of each side is flat

[lost python]

oh

[sly elk]

i didn't realize it before lol

[lost python]

keep your eyes open for the screen randomly starting to peel out of the frame

[sly elk]

ohhh

i heard about that

[lost python]

G7, G8 and G9s seem to all be affected, given how many post you can find about this

mine is held in place by black tape now

[sly elk]

😦

[lost python]

huh

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/report-arm-is-sensationally-canceling-qualcomms-chip-license-oct-2024

[sly elk]

heheheh

qualcomm's a dick anyway

[shadow oracle]

yea I sent it earlier

[sharp star]

nice

[wraith agate]

Lmao

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/bv2ewORLIuI?si=-DBi41BRKZBWIXIy @potent arrow

[celest violet]

Shit samsung phones might flop 💀

[golden stream]

Isn't it alr flop

Fold6 sale is horrib (but good price for trade-in and discount)
And Fold6 SE is just plain weird

[celest violet]

Nah samsung phones are great rn.
Apk means I don't pay for shit

[golden stream]

me typing this on Fold5 lmao

[celest violet]

Just get a s2x+ or ultra. My s22+ is great.
Easy to customize ui with theme park, free spotify premium, modded disc

Pretty solid

[golden stream]

The issue is at least in Fold line, hardwares aren't top notch as the S line/S ultras
Also update between gens
Like I got my 1TB Fold5 in last Black Friday for the price of 250GB edition, hella nice, but look at the spec of the 6, ehhhhh samey spec with AI stuff, nyeh imma pass

Unsure about the Flip and the S line sale tho, prob still fine

[celest violet]

Tbh those phones are more about the gimmick than the specs

If you want specs you go with the s line

The flip 3 was equal to like the s9 lmao

I also just prefer navigating the os of a samsung over ios

Though it would be nice to have things that were just built in as nicely as facetime

Thats it tbh

[paper tusk]

imagine a i9 being beat in games by the previous i5

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2024/10/GOTG.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289234242289008643/1298704582184009808/GalLr5aboAAThDw.jpg?ex=671a8865&is=671936e5&hm=bd3935223fba38485179704bbf411b32ce88508cae6ac967b536faaa4a8fede7&

but at least it runs cool

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2024/10/Power.jpg

[sharp star]

that's not a good look for gaming. oof

[paper tusk]

https://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2024/10/CPU-Temps.jpg

[sharp star]

Apparently Arrow Lake has Vmin shift instability too.

Still avoiding Intel then

[paper tusk]

yeah the review/first run units are ultra crash happy

[hazy frost]

They’re the worst phone in their price ranges lol

The s24u still has the ass camera processing and shutter speed so you can’t take any quick shots, the processor is still behind apples A17 and 18, still the worst android OS by default, and costs more than the iPhone 15PM and Google pixel 9 pro, and a LOT more than other brands flagships like xiaomi and honor who do folds way better

Samsung fell off a whilee ago

Especially anywhere with the exynos models of the S2x phones instead of the SD ones so a lot of people don’t know it’ll vary when they buy it which kind of sucks

The best part of the s24u is that the shape is cool and the display is pretty nice

[celest violet]

Eh idc about the camera too much. Processor is better than the pixels, also I don't do phone gaming

They may be costly, but also the eco system is solid

Pixels are almost there tho

Probably will get one next time

[hazy frost]

Even if it’s not a pixel there’s a multitude of other phones that cost less for the rest of the spec being similar

[celest violet]

My phone company only really offers trade ins in Samsung, pixel and ios

[hazy frost]

The oneplus 12 for example

[celest violet]

I got 700 off the s22+ for trade in and a free watch

[hazy frost]

It’s like $800 instead of over $1000 for the same processor and a good display and it’s just not got the cameras

And honestly I wouldn’t buy Samsung for cameras now anyway it doesn’t make much sense

[hazy frost]

I mean it’s ok compared to the 3 I guess but it doesn’t make it an actually good phone out of everything else

Samsung is basically the worst android option for almost anything rn but people buy them bc they know what it is and is normally like your case, one of 3 maybe 4 options u get from ur carrier

[celest violet]

Yeah i mean it's not a lot of freedom. I just mainly prefer android, and the pixels are a little lower spec

[hazy frost]

Apple either need to give more customisation or Google needs to have a better processor for me anyway

The latter is probably more likely

[hazy frost]

The pixel processor still sucks but they did fix the battery life to some degree finally

It’s now actually competitive with the other flagships unlike the 8 which was awful

[celest violet]

If pixel is a solid trade on option next time maybe. But I use my galaxy watch for some health things so I'll need compatibility

[hazy frost]

My favourite watch design wise is the galaxy one but my favourite one to actually use is the Apple Watch

I’ve not used the pixel one rly

It’s probably just as good for most stuff anyway

I won’t buy any expensive smart watch still bc being tied to an ecosystem is lame

[celest violet]

Yeah but atleast i think galaxy and pixel are pretty compatible

Honestly if samsung had pixels camera software it'd be great

[hazy frost]

If everyone had the Xperia level of control with pixels quality that would be cool

Tbf I still think the current iPhone cameras are on par with pixel cameras they just both have different reasons I like them

The only one I don’t like is the Samsung one bc it’s got the worst qualities of all the rest somehow

Since Apple introduced the raw mode for camera that tones down the sharpening it does on most images it processes it’s been a lot better imo

[cold yacht]

I like what iPhones do for low exposers photos

The camera sensor will move to stay steady when held by hand

[hazy frost]

I think the iPhone camera is just really good in general bc it takes better videos than any other phone even when the photos lack behind sometimes

I just hate how limited iOS is sometimes but it’s getting better

[slow torrent]

Wanna know a bad look at gaming? I play FF14 on a Mac laptop which doesn't have an internal fan...

[pine thistle]

1+ default OS is ten times more garbage than samsung tho

now that it was merged with coloros or whatever the fuck the oppo thing was

samsungs os is honestly not even that terrible after using it for a while

[cold yacht]

I just stick with iPhones personally

[hazy frost]

I don’t think it’s worse

It’s definitely not as good as it was

Samsungs OS is just bloated and no individuality

Samsung and Apple have been in a battle of who can be the most like the other for like 5 years now

[cold yacht]

I want to trade in my MacBook though for a newer one

[hazy frost]

I don’t like macOS that much except the fact it has GarageBand and logic on it

lol

[cold yacht]

Using a 2012 MacBook Pro rn

[hazy frost]

I’ve used my friends M2 pro for a bit

[slow torrent]

Love Logic, its so good!

[hazy frost]

I wouldn’t buy one

I might get an M1 air one day or something

[hazy frost]

I’ve not found anything I like as much as it

Especially bc GarageBand is just a free limited version

[slow torrent]

Noooo, don't! At least not the one I use! IT DOESN'T HAVE A FAN!

[hazy frost]

Nothing is as good as GarageBand for free

[hazy frost]

Yeah but I mean I’m just gonna use it for logic and occasionally doing stuff in word or smth

[slow torrent]

PLEASE if you want to at least game a bit, don't take the fanless one

[hazy frost]

I have a desktop and gaming laptop I use for more intensive stuff

[slow torrent]

It can warm up if you have too many instruments

[slow torrent]

Ahhh

[hazy frost]

Should be good enough

I’ve not seen any problems from them getting warm

[cold yacht]

I don’t like windows laptops tbh

[slow torrent]

Yeah, it is. for those purposes!

[hazy frost]

The pro is just too expensive to just use logic lmao

[slow torrent]

I only have a mac and I enjoy gaming so that''s why

[hazy frost]

I don’t like reaper or ableton much

[hazy frost]

Yeah that makes sense, the air is definitely a lighter productivity and not much else laptop

They’re really good at doing that tho and getting like 2 days on one charge and feels snappy to use atl

[slow torrent]

For Logic though; I had no issues with it; can run 300+ MIDI (instruments) just fine if only with a tinie tiny bit of lag when starting the song

[hazy frost]

I don’t think I’d use 300 tbh lmao

[slow torrent]

I will say that FF14 runs pretty on my MAC without getting too warm and can probably run it for 3-5 hours none stop but I haven't tried it!

[hazy frost]

I only use it when working with my friend who I made music with really

[hazy frost]

Tbh my gaming laptop gets like 2-5 hours of games on it but it gets louder bc of fans

I was mostly using it to run VS2022 anyway

[slow torrent]

Probably more a me thing (I enjoy remixing the heck out video game music for fun)

[cold yacht]

Trading in my old pro for an air might be the move for me

[hazy frost]

That’s fair

[slow torrent]

Ahhh, I do have FF14 on lower graphics as a precaution

[hazy frost]

I record just my own guitar with amp sims for collaborating with people and that’s mostly it

But I still hate using anything else

[slow torrent]

Oooh nice!

[hazy frost]

The UI on most windows available ones is super dated compared to macOS ones

[slow torrent]

I'm a big MIDI user (used to insert each notes individually before learning you can download MIDI files...)

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[slow torrent]

But I do use it for singing as well

[slow torrent]

Took me about 72 hours of work for like around 6 songs...

Came out great though!

[hazy frost]

That’s cool

I haven’t made anything in almost a year probably

[slow torrent]

xD

[hazy frost]

Me and the associated people who wrote songs have been busy

[slow torrent]

Rn, I'm just having fun playing around trying to make classical songs into edm...

So far, just replaced piano with synths and added edm drums...

xD

[hazy frost]

I’ve been more focused on art than music so I haven’t thought about it much

Which doesn’t require me to own a new laptop either

lol

[slow torrent]

xD

Same tbh but I've been drawing Kafka recently and her theme is Winter by Vivaldi which inspired me to try to remix Winter for fun

[sly elk]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/1ga95in/customer_states_the_ac_compressor_fell_off/

[dire viper]

That fits

[paper tusk]

more "where I come from we don't need embargos" on arrow lake

this is barely competing with the previous i7 (total power use included)

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-he-is-already-dead-stop-gif-5552043

[hazy frost]

Even Intel fanboys can’t like this one surely

Intel peaked with the 12900k

[shadow oracle]

Is this the OC3D review that got posted early?

Apparently Windows broke the hardware scheduler again and MSFT haven't shipped out the fix yet

Microsoft try to work with heterogeneous core design challenge (impossible)

[hazy frost]

Isn’t the 9950x still faster than the 14900ks which is supposed to be faster than the U9 even if it was working correctly

For not gaming

9800x3d is obviously still going to win in gaming as per usual

Unless the other x3d ones are better but same thing

[shadow oracle]

Who the fuck knows because at this point the leaked benchmarks are all over the place

Embargo lifts in 3 and a half hours btw

Multiple Japanese reviewers have set premieres for that time

[sharp star]

How much do you think Intel screwed up this launch

[shadow oracle]

I'm gonna say 6/10

With Windows being the other 4/10

So 10/10 fucked launch but only 60% of that is Intel's fault I bet

[hazy frost]

I think even if they fix it it’s gonna be disappointing compared to the am5 CPUs coming out honestly

It’ll just be less disappointing than 14th gen maybe if it’s a slight performance increase but lower power draw instead of higher

[sharp star]

[hazy frost]

253w 9950x vs 250w u9 is looking pretty definitive

It’s better than 14th gen I guess but they were also destroying themselves so… low bar I guess

Also ddr5 7200 to match the 9950x? What’s the 9950x on still just 6000

It is kind of insane bc that ups the cost by another $60-200 depending on how much ram u need which.. yeah

[shadow oracle]

Embargo lifts soon

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXLY8kEdR1c

Even Linus is blasting it

[shadow oracle]

OK what the fuck there's no way there isn't windows shenanigans happening lmfao

What the fuck is that performance spread

Like

.???????

OK I'm legit just gonna say that this is probably windows scheduling problems

Like, it's chart topping very single threaded and very multithreaded workloads

But it shits the bed when it comes to games

You don't get the best performance for both blender, 7zip, chromium compile and stellaris turn time while shitting the bed for gaming if things are right

[real edge]

worse performance than a 2-3 year old cpu

[shadow oracle]

Bro there legit something wrong either with Intel's microcode or with windows hardware scheduler

[real edge]

??????????????

[shadow oracle]

It's literally ONLY performing poorly in games

Which is so fucking funny to me

[real edge]

5800x3d is 2 and a half years old

[potent arrow]

it's unkillable nhadala

it's gonna haunt me till 2030

I know it

[shadow oracle]

You know whats funny

This just made the 9950X worse in terms of value for productivity

Even tho it objectively shat the bed for gaming

[sharp star]

the faces of Arrow Lake

[potent arrow]

it's ms scheduler iirc LMAOO

man Intel needed this to fucking work

come on aaaaa

[dire viper]

This is scary on mobile

It’s like the thing but made out of highly opinionated and biased hardware reviewers

[shadow oracle]

I've heard about that kekw

I've also heard that Intel forgor to optimise memory latency

God fucking damn it Intel

Amd was meant to be FineWine

You were meant to work out of the box

[potent arrow]

Arrow lake was pretty like

[shadow oracle]

OK that's different tho

[dire viper]

Did u know hardware reviewers are leprosy carriers like nine banded armadillo

[shadow oracle]

That's just failing to do edge case testing

And also possibly because they were so used to their old nodes being able to cop extremely high voltages that they forgor to retest

I remember running a 7350k at 1.55V

Good times

And also no I didn't buy a 2c4t cpu retail I'm not that daft

I had a spare maximus z270 board lying around and decided to get a chip to bench

[potent arrow]

2c4t is such a weird ass fucking config to me tbh

even for low end

I kinda expect duo core to be dead by this year but NOOOOOOOo

[shadow oracle]

Nah 7350k is from like

2016?

2017?

It was the first and only unlocked 2 core CPU Intel ever released since ivy ridge LMAO

[potent arrow]

LMAO

fucking whack ass cpu tbh

[kind rune]

i think im late but

i want to know how much they all get in limsa

[sharp star]

I get that Intel is super important to the US tech industry but... how the fuck

[shadow oracle]

My best guess? Windows fucking shit up as usual and also increased memory latency from the IO die

[sharp star]

Nah but like

[shadow oracle]

Would explain why it's good in synthetics but shit in gaming

[sharp star]

Even with Windows fucking up scheduling there's also just the messy launch in general

[shadow oracle]

Rushed launch kek

[sharp star]

Nah

[dire viper]

Blud what u sayin

[paper tusk]

no that was posted a day ago

[sharp star]

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1849520264113004773

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

the latest Windows 11 update released today (KB5044384) also includes the new gamepad keyboard that lets you type with an Xbox controller https://t.co/2reeFeRt8Y

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 6:36 PM

[sharp star]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Upgrade_Service lol does anyone remember this shit

[slow torrent]

Nope but ya'll remember the Sims 3 Expansions CD... The CD meant nothing... only the redeem code paper... which meant if you lost that and upgraded to a Mac that doesn't support 32Bits... you had to buy it again...

I had that happen and I'm still pissed... (Luckily, since I did provide pictures that I owned the game... they kindly allowed me to download the 64bit versio despite owning the game already... it was simply stuck at 32...

[slow torrent]

Mind you, I'm talking about the superior game The Sims 3 (when compared to 4 not 2) where the base game is actually fun!

Karnak?

Ahhhhh!

I just saw Excalibur and was like huh the Master Sword in french is Excalibur... why not and also Arthur

It was named that at least in Twilight Princess, now it's L'épée de la Légende

[odd sand]

Honestly, I don't think it's that ridiculous given the very specific market segment it was aimed at: The margins aren't large enough for them to warrant a ton of SKUs for those, so it's probably cheaper for them to simply ship 1 and if you end up needing more performance you can pay to get into the next tier rather than needing an entirely new CPU. (I don't know what their price was at least, so maybe it was a bad deal which would be a specific implementation issue)

[sly elk]

so is AMD

shit, I'd argue that right now, in terms of space/defense, amd is a lot more important

xilinx chips power a lot of stuff

[odd sand]

But it's actually a thing in the high-end Xeon CPUs to pay to unlock functionality on the chips.

[sly elk]

i wonder if apple will end up being the next intel/boeing

or one of the car companies lol

[cold yacht]

In terms of what?

[sly elk]

-shrug- absolutely no idea

it's one of those can't predict the future until it happens things

[shadow oracle]

Nope

Defence fabs with Intel's mature nodes

[sly elk]

https://www.xilinx.com/content/dam/xilinx/publications/solution-briefs/xilinx-space-solution-brief.pdf

i'm thinking about space stuff, sorry 😄

[shadow oracle]

Space stuff also use a bunch of Intel lol

They use agilex and altera too

And radiation hardened atoms and pentium are used in satellites

[sly elk]

i've never seen it lol

not even once

i recall someone somewhere mentioning they knew about a payload computer that ran windows iot once

https://tenor.com/view/oshi-no-ko-arima-kana-kana-arima-oshi-no-ko-kana-dead-anime-gif-17795031404037202648

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/WxXZlONu4Ig

[sly elk]

core ultra 5 245k

someone needs to fire intel's marketing people

the ryzen naming is only a tiny bit better but it soudns cooler at least

https://tenor.com/view/lisa-su-amd-ryzen-cpu-gif-18741811

wow

the steam terms of service update requires disputes to go through court instead of arbitration

neat take

[sharp star]

Finished cleaning my case holy crap

It was annoying getting fan brackets to thread, managed to break a motherboard speaker in the process

Thankfully I have replacements

[sly elk]

wtf

[sharp star]

Yeah

The bracket wouldn't seat properly and therefore the screws holding it wouldn't thread

Took a bit of force

Unfortunately it also broke the 4-pin speaker

[wraith agate]

Oh no, anyway

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-no-one-cares-gif-18925814

you need a proper paper cone speaker :3

[sly elk]

trying to sell hank on the idea of using a fan controller instead of getting angry at his motherboard's crappy onboard fan control :3

onboard fan control is CRAP, especially the asus stuff >>

[sharp star]

yeah lol

my case fans are plugged into the fan controller included with my case and I haven’t run into any issues with it never mind it’s a fan hub lol

thinking about putting my CPU fans on the controller and not the mobo

actually wait

it’d probably be better if I kept my case fans and my CPU fans separate

[sly elk]

hehe

yea

[sharp star]

I used to have crappy fan control on one board that just screamed

I think it was an Asus come to think of it

[potent arrow]

that's uh a really bad idea

[sharp star]

Yeah I decided against it lmao

in the end I kept my fan connections as is

[potent arrow]

be like me and have your fans directly soldered to the motherboard

[sharp star]

instructions unclear, used a hot glue gun

[potent arrow]

hot glue gun keeps the stupid nvme cover on

[warm pine]

Is this a good first custom PC setup?

[potent arrow]

you can share the PC part Picker link btw

it's on the top of the page

what's your cpu

either way it's fine, PSU slightly overkill

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aIHMvs0zps Rich sounds angry at Intel

[hazy frost]

Not really

[hazy frost]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GTFbsh
this is basically the same price

Could be cheaper if u went for another case but I assume u want that one anyway

7700xt is like 30-40% faster than the 7600xt and the r5 7600 is on a not dead platform and a lot faster than the 5600

[shadow oracle]

board has exposed chokes and mosfets

[hazy frost]

And?

Would u like to give an actual comment on it or is that it

[shadow oracle]

Are you aware of the fact that they need cooling

[hazy frost]

Yeah that 7600 is really going to kill it man

It’ll do 165w on the 7950x I think you’ll be alright

[real edge]

that is a good PC

[hazy frost]

If ur really concerned id get the b650m pro rs

But it’s $30 more

[real edge]

I would prefer a more expensive GPU but I guess that you're on a budget

[hazy frost]

I was giving a suggestion to the other guy

This is the same price as the 5600x 7600xt build they sent

[dire viper]

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1796402 nicest Alfa 164 is for sale in the UK rn

[hazy frost]

Tbf the pro rs would still be a similar price but u don’t need it anyway so I don’t see a reason to get it over the pg lightning

[dire viper]

Fully optioned 164 Quadrifoglio

[hazy frost]

U can upgrade to basically any mid range am5 cpu and not have issues on it bc they’re all <150w in normal usage

[hazy frost]

Only 14k is pretty good

I saw one with higher miles and definitely not as good condition for more than that lol

[dire viper]

James May retweeted this one

“Somebody else has to buy this or I will”

[warm pine]

Yeah problem is the screenshot was from my old phone which broke and I can't log in to PC part

[hazy frost]

It would be cool if I had money lmao

There’s not a lot that interesting for that price

[hazy frost]

Did u check the alternative I sent?

[warm pine]

Lol apparently I shared this along time ago

[warm pine]

Not yet I'll check now

[warm pine]

It's definitely cheaper , is it better?

[hazy frost]

these show the 7700xt compared to the 7600xt

and heres the 7600 vs 5600x

[warm pine]

I tried to make a build using 7700 but it would always end up SUPER expensive

[shadow oracle]

The pro rs is literally like $10 more and actually have heatsinks for all of the mosfets and chokes

[hazy frost]

u can get it around 1k like the one i sent, none of it is anything super cheap

[hazy frost]

pro rs is $10 more with no wifi

also again ur spending money for nothing bc the pg lightning runs the 7950x even without overheating

so where is the issue

[shadow oracle]

[hazy frost]

man i sent u proof

can u not read

lmao

u can run the 7950x at the maximum wattage its actually efficient at or the 7900x

it will take the 7600 7700 and 7800x3d fine

none of them are even over 150w in real world scenarios

[warm pine]

1k is fine but I'd always get to like 1,200-1,500

[hazy frost]

yeah the one i sent is 1030

even with the better motherboard it would be 1060

for 1200-1500 u can get a 4070super or 7900gre instead

[shadow oracle]

For ~1100 you can get a 6800xt lol

[hazy frost]

for 1135 u can get a 7800xt

wouldnt buy the 6800xt now for $20 less

[shadow oracle]

Didn't bother scrolling down

[hazy frost]

if u cba to even scroll down why even comment

[hazy frost]

yeah its not great

GN video shows all the x3d cpus from am4 beating it still

[sharp star]

the 5800X3D is literally unkillable

[hazy frost]

slower than 13700k

and 9700x

[hazy frost]

i mean the 5600x3d is weirdly fast as w ell in this one game

[sharp star]

yeah lmao

[hazy frost]

above the 5700x3d which should be way closer being just a 5800x3d lite

not rly sure what thats about

[sharp star]

The 5600X3D has higher clock speeds iirc

so maybe

[hazy frost]

9950x is also weirdlyt high

[hazy frost]

yeah ig ffxiv doesnt rly scale past 6 cores either so doesnt matter

theres not many games that do

i think cyberpunk after 2.0 update can use 8

also theyre using like 100-150w not 200 or whatever the u9 uses in gaming now

[warm pine]

The build you sent me has no wifi?

I honestly am not good at looking for PCs cause only my stepdad knows about building them but I don't know crap

[wide hill]

how is my 5900x better than this

[sharp star]

Intel has no idea how to get the best of multiple worlds

[wide hill]

what i am going to hope for is that this is actually better for their mobile lineup?

a desktop cpu will be having mostly be able to hit the cap as it can, whilst a laptop with no fans and no actual cooling can run it better.

[warm pine]

What's the pros and cons of this PC? And can it connect to wifi?

[hazy frost]

theres basically no cons over what u sent, psu is of equal quality, cpu and ram is better, gpu is better, same case, if u want a better motherboard thats all id call a 'con' and the alternative is $30 more

the one i listed already has wifi

the alternative is the b650m pro rs wifi

also the ssd is better bc the p3 plus is qlc and kind of mid anyway

tlc ssds are generally just better than the qlc ones

[warm pine]

so the one you listed is the best option for a affordable first pc?

[hazy frost]

what actually is ur budget?

1k?

[warm pine]

yeah

[hazy frost]

are u attached to that case specifically or would u settle for a diff one

kind of expensive f or what u get

[warm pine]

not really attached to the case

id really like a case that is good ,unless i understand them wrong and their cosmetic only?

[hazy frost]

so long as its mesh and u have enough fans it wont make much difference besides cosmetics

some are nicer to work with and cable manage too

minor stuff

the list i sent a lready is fine tbh anyway its $1000

doesnt need to be cheaper if u like that case

[odd sand]

Wasn't the chiplet arch for Intel also supposed to have 3d cache? Or is that part not until 16th gen and they are only doing the chiplet part for 15th?

[warm pine]

will it run 60 fps or higher? @hazy frost

[odd sand]

You can get a solid case for like $100

[real edge]

I understand that you mean well but please try and be less hostile/aggressive

[odd sand]

Otherwise the new Antec Flux and Flux Pro have rave reviews for their cooling abilities, so this is probably a good choice at $110 after promo code:
https://www.newegg.com/p/11-129-312

[sharp star]

I really, really want the Flux Pro

I'm still waiting for a release here so I don't have to go out of my way to import

[odd sand]

https://www.newegg.com/black-orange-be-quiet-pure-base-atx-mid-tower/p/2AM-0037-00027

That also has very respectable thermals for not a lot of money

[golden stream]

I SEE BEQUIET
Iirc in EU, BeQuiet is p affordable-ish

[odd sand]

Yeah I think they're based out of Germany

[golden stream]

And cheaper than noctua

[odd sand]

Probably not in the price range for them, but this case looks really cool to me too:
https://youtu.be/v7aRWcM0AFE

[golden stream]

Still p okey in term of silent tho

WAT IS DAT CASE NANI TF

[odd sand]

The thermals aren't actually better than the top-runners but about equals them for the standard horizontal arrangement

[golden stream]

The angled intake is to redux turbulent air I get??

[odd sand]

New company called Havn which put together a team of veteran designers from Fractal, Coolermaster, Lian Li etc.

You can see the image show what it's intended to do

[golden stream]

Aye aye

Ngl quite an unconventional approaching

[odd sand]

It bounces the airflow off the glass into the GPU and has the plexiglass shield to prevent the hot air from the rest of the system from being used for the intake

[sharp star]

the case looks cool but I dunno if I can justify buying one

[odd sand]

Ironically enough, the regular horizontal design has better thermals than that vertical one heh

[golden stream]

Actually u know wat
They can open the custom laser print/etch on the acrylic/glass at the intake fans
EZ CUSTOM $

[odd sand]

Simply bc in vertical the GPU is blowing its hot air onto the mobo and can't get around it easily

Havn cases are made at the same factory as the Hyte ones like the H60 and H70

[golden stream]

But ngl I can see a bit Dyson beeg brain here

[sharp star]

actually

[odd sand]

If nothing else, with the angled fans it would be a conversation piece.

[sharp star]

maybe I’ll import a Flux Pro

[odd sand]

Antec being talked about in case discussions again... what is this, 2006 again? /s

[sharp star]

yes

[odd sand]

Time to dust off the Antec 900 rite

Only the best for that fatty Core2Quad

[dire viper]

Real

We have cooler master cases here at work

And they’re old old boxes

My pc is an Asus box with an SD card reader because when SD cards came out they used to use them for parts information catalogues lmao

you’d get an SD card in the mail

[warm pine]

id really like if it runs 60 or higher fps

[hazy frost]

depends what game and resolution

7700xt will do anything at 1080p and 1440p at 60fps pretty much

[warm pine]

well thats good

[hazy frost]

if u have raytracing on itll do 60 fps in 1080p and youll probably need FSR to get 60fps in some games with raytracing in 1440p

but thats not a lot of games

basically its just a good gpu for ultra settings on 1080p and medium-high at 1440p

[warm pine]

4k is better imo then hd

[hazy frost]

Well 4K isn’t really something I’d aim for with a $1k budget unless ur playing old or less demanding games

Even the $700 GPUs aren’t doing amazing in some new triple A games at 4K

[warm pine]

i mean i can upgrade it whenever i want to right?

[sharp star]

yes

[warm pine]

though i should probably get the items i need for 4k when i earn enough money instead of save ,build the pc , and upgrade

[celest violet]

My living room pc was struggling like hell with silent hill 2, it's got a 12900k and a 3060ti which should be enough? Does the game have optimization issues or what

[hazy frost]

In what resolution

Silent hill 2 is really hard to run

In native 4K the 4090 gets less than 60fps without RT being on

[hazy frost]

4K I think in general isn’t a very feasible goal

It’s a big premium to have a gpu capable of playing the latest triple A games constantly

[warm pine]

ah so me having my ps5 that is 4k is much cheaper

[hazy frost]

The ps5 4K is done with upscaling and lower settings than u can get on pc

And it’s locked to 30 fps in a lot of harder to run new games

Or 60 at best

[warm pine]

thankfully the ps5 games i play its 60 fps always when there is a option

[hazy frost]

Yeah ps5 won’t rly be more powerful than a PC for 4K tho

The hardware just isn’t good enough

Bc console max settings aren’t as good as pc max settings you could get similar performance with some of the mid range GPUs with DLSS or FSR on at 4K

[warm pine]

so thats why pc 4k is more expensive?

[celest violet]

Damn that is rough

My TV is 4k so that makes sense

I didn't know it was that demanding

[hazy frost]

It’s mostly just bad optimisation on this one I think lol

Game shouldnt be this hard to run

But it is

[warm pine]

i didnt know the difference till i compared it through cyberpunk 2077 4k is extremly supeior to hd

[hazy frost]

Well it depends

On a 55” TV 1080p looks awful and 4K looks great

On a 10” display 720p and 4K would be basically impossible to tell apart

PPI matters more than resolution

1440p 27” monitors are great

If you want 32” or bigger 4K is ideal tho

[warm pine]

yeah i got an almost 60 inch hisense 4k roku tv , it was on sale so it was a steal

add in my soundbar and subwoofer and i got a mini theater

[hazy frost]

I think for the price of a good 4K tv if all you’re doing is gaming the 27” 1440p OLED displays are better for that kind of money

But if ur playing on a couch it doesn’t work as well

[celest violet]

Yeah my main setup has two 27 1440ps

But i thought I'd play sh in the living room on the TV, but looks like I'll just play on my main rig since it's stronger

[hazy frost]

I’m waiting for Black Friday to pick up an OLED one for my main and retire my current one as the second monitor for static work so I don’t get burn in lol

[celest violet]

Fair. I had to buy two new ones on prime day this year since my main one went out, and I just decided to get two matching screens

[hazy frost]

That’s fair

I can’t get another one of mine anyway

They replaced the s2721dgf with the G2724D and id rather just spend like £150 more and get an OLED one now

[celest violet]

Yeah i couldn't replace my old one. I had a Samsung c27hg70 and the panel started having issues as well as whenever the weather was cold, it'd have all kinds of lines across it until it warmed up

Was a great monitor for some time tho

[hazy frost]

Idk how long I’ve had mine

I got it on sale like a year or two before they stopped making it anyway

So long as it’s grey and 27” 1440p it’ll be close enough

Especially when I put them on an arm

[sharp star]

Fuck it, I ordered a Flux Pro

[dire viper]

This explains some things

[hazy frost]

Rivian looks way better still imo

Wasn’t the range on them pretty bad previously tho

[dire viper]

Yea but it’s increased

It’s not terrible tho

R1T with big pack is 450 miles

It really is a truck/SUV meant for places like the US west

If you live in salt lake here in Utah you are 10-30 miles from a lot of great off roading and over landing areas

[hazy frost]

That’s pretty good

What’s it like when carrying a decent amount in the bed or towing tho

That’s the problem with most of the EVs meant for actual work purposes

450 miles is a lot better than what I remember it being before atl

And better than a lot of other SUVs they make

[dire viper]

Probably reduced to 300-350

Most of the ones I see have roof tents and a full off-road rear rack

[dire viper]

It is

They’ve increased the range by having more compact batteries and also by reducing how much load the vehicle has

[hazy frost]

So long as it’s actually usable like that it’s good

450 miles unloaded sucks if it does like 200 with any load

[dire viper]

Phantom loss is a massive issue with EV’s

[hazy frost]

Cyber truck towing is hilarious

There’s been a lot of EVs that are pretty good and ok prices recently

[dire viper]

It’s funny, the R1T and ID Buzz are the same price

https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r1t#

[hazy frost]

Not cheap but what does the new F150 go for it’s not cheap either lol

[dire viper]

They’re very cheap actually

[hazy frost]

It’s fair enough I guess

[dire viper]

Unless you want a crazy one

F-250/350 king ranch with lots of options are north of 100k

[hazy frost]

70k starting is still high in general for a vehicle

[dire viper]

Yes

[hazy frost]

Isn’t the R1T f150 size

[dire viper]

Yuh

It’s smaller actually

[hazy frost]

Ecoboost f150 is like 40k tho lmao

[hazy frost]

Can’t use it for as much

[dire viper]

The F-150 doesn’t work as an EV

[hazy frost]

The nice ones are 70 grand as well tho

That aren’t the shit v6 as well

The 2.5l or whatever it is

[dire viper]

No college debt mfs when they get a 100k loan for a pickup truck they’ll total before they turn 25

[hazy frost]

The biggest car where I live is a RAV4 lmao

[dire viper]

I know two people that have totaled there 120k King Ranches and because they bought during Covid price balloon they got scammed

Insurance companies wouldn’t pay the value left on the loan

Stuck with 30k of debt and no vehicle lol

[hazy frost]

What options do u need to get that to 120k I thought they’re like 80 starting lmao

[dire viper]

Fully loaded with dealer mark up

[hazy frost]

Crazy

[dire viper]

Dealer adds like 10-15k

This was during Covid

[hazy frost]

People who get cars they can’t afford are idiots

Everyone does it now tho

[dire viper]

Smart people lease

Lease a new BMW every 4 years, you get 4 years of free maintenance with them lmao

[hazy frost]

Smart people lease something 5 years old with the same tech for a lot less money

It’s still crazy people will spend like 20k to buy a new A3 or something instead of a 5 series or higher trim 3 series or something from 4 years ago that’s basically a new car

[dire viper]

Yes

They’re buying a base Audi they don’t know nothing about saving money

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[dire viper]

Honest to god a base Panamera is probably more worth

[hazy frost]

I know someone who spent 25k on a base A3 and it barely looks newer than my 2014 Ibiza inside

[dire viper]

Yea lmao

[hazy frost]

It just has a screen in it

That’s it

[dire viper]

Pay more for less physical things and more electrical problems

[hazy frost]

Old car and CarPlay unit is just better

[dire viper]

Muhfuckin head lights rewired to the clutch

[hazy frost]

I wouldn’t mind if they weren’t like

Twice the price of one from 2020

[dire viper]

Inflation

Yay

[hazy frost]

Idk about trucks tho if ur actually using it for work then the nicer interior and bigger engine is probably more worth it

[dire viper]

Sort of

The build quality is all the same

I’d rather have the cheap interior cause it’s going to need to be fixed the same amount

[hazy frost]

The only thing I miss from having an older car is heated seats and Bluetooth stereo but like u can get those if u buy a C class or whatever from the same year

[dire viper]

Simply buy a 30 year old Volvo

40 year old even

240’s have heated seats

[hazy frost]

It’s just that new base models have stuff from the luxury cars 20 years ago

Yeah I hate leather seats and cloth heated seats feel disturbing tho

Lmao

New Volvos are good value tbf

The interior is actually nice

[dire viper]

Yes

[hazy frost]

Does the rivian SUV have the same upgraded battery now too

[dire viper]

Yes

The R1S and R1T are the same thing basically

One just doesn’t have a bed

[sly elk]

ya know what i want

[hazy frost]

Is there a third one tho or am I thinking of smth else

[dire viper]

Skateboard architecture

[sly elk]

a 300c or a charger scat pack

that's what i want

[dire viper]

They have three models coming out in 2-3 years

[sly elk]

i mostly think i want a 300c LOL

because nobody's ever going to expect the 392

and that's good because i don't want them to

[dire viper]

Have you seen the video of the Challenger scat pack spinning out trying to keep up with a 911 GT3

[sly elk]

i just want a burbly NA V8

[dire viper]

Scat pack was definitely slower than the 911 and then he spun out

[sly elk]

the r1t is the nicest looking truck on the road atm

i think*

[hazy frost]

I still think V6s sound better than V8s

In general

[sly elk]

i think the scout truck looks great too

it's pretty much the same thing though

[hazy frost]

The r1s is the nicest SUV too lmao

I really hate most modern SUVs

[sly elk]

i don't really have an opinion on suvs lol

[dire viper]

GT3 PDK 0-60 in 2.9~3.1

[sly elk]

i like wranglers and that's about it 😄 and even then, only in stock form

[hazy frost]

There’s some ok crossovers but at that point just get the hatchback lmao

[sly elk]

i think the roided out bruh jeeps are ugly

[hazy frost]

U know what I do like is the BYD models tho

They have issues but they’re cheap as hell too

The hatchback they unveiled the concept for in China is interesting

Not sure the US gets it tho lmao

[dire viper]

lol GT3 at 2.7 on the full cup 2 tires and a scat pack does it in 4.3 😭

[sly elk]

the rumor that apple poured a ton of R&D into tech and gave it to byd

is just

[dire viper]

No way they beef with Porsches

[sly elk]

traitors

[sly elk]

for the cost of a gt3 you can buy 4 scat packs lol

[dire viper]

Yes

Sub 4 seconds is expensive af tho

[sly elk]

yea but i'm not racing so i don't need it

don't get me wrong though

i love the gt3 😉

[dire viper]

Wait so a stock hellcat is slower than a GT3 PDK 😭

[hazy frost]

This thing is cool

£22k allegedly

300hp EV hatchback

[dire viper]

Oh the BYD

It should be that cheap

Europe doesn’t have cringe ass tariffs

[sly elk]

it does look neat

[dire viper]

US just did a 100% tariff on Chinese cars

[hazy frost]

Tbf Teslas have the same build quality and cost more than the US here lmfao

[dire viper]

So double price lmao

[hazy frost]

Sucks

[sly elk]

anyway i could go buy a new scat pack right now and not feel the least bit guilty about it

... well maybe a little

[dire viper]

Or you could buy a Panamera

[hazy frost]

But yeah here it’s looking like an amazing deal

[dire viper]

:)

[sly elk]

a like 5 year old panamera

[hazy frost]

I could buy the alpha that got posted here earlier

[dire viper]

Panamera long wheel base

[sly elk]

and from what i've seen pn reddit

people regard panamera drivers about the same as dodge charger drivers

[dire viper]

You could buy a Jaguar XJ8L Vanden Plas for like 15k also

[hazy frost]

Or the evo 7 I’ve been looking at on Facebook that’s not sold yet lmao

[dire viper]

At least Panameras don’t spin out

[sly elk]

also at 5 years old

there's a good chance the air suspension is ready to cost $10k to fix

[hazy frost]

There’s a decent amount for 15k tbh it’s just insurance would crucify me for most of it

[dire viper]

True 😔

[dire viper]

Thats also true

[hazy frost]

15k car and I’m paying £5k insurance on it

Lmao

[dire viper]

It’s funny that a lot of trucks have air suspension now and some people pay like 20k for a used pickup and then instantly have to shell out 15k for a full suspension overhaul

It’s why we didn’t get air suspension on our ram 1500 Laramie longhorn

[hazy frost]

I don’t see the point in air suspension on a truck

For what

[dire viper]

For daily commuting duh

Nobody uses a pickup for pickup stuff

[hazy frost]

Lmao

True I guess

[dire viper]

Except the British

[hazy frost]

Also true

[dire viper]

British farmers with ranger raptors

British police with ranger raptors

[hazy frost]

The guy who used to live near me had an F250 and I didn’t even know they sold those here tbh

[dire viper]

18 cowboys in black ford raptor trucks

[hazy frost]

I’m not sure what he did but some kind of construction

[dire viper]

At a certain ranch

[dire viper]

There is a company that imports them

Not for regular sale

They do all the MOT stuff

[hazy frost]

I think anything bigger than the 250 would just be unusable here outside of a farm tho

[dire viper]

Ineos Grenadier supremacy

[hazy frost]

Even on a farm if u ever need to leave for smth it’s a nightmare bc all the nearby roads are tiny B roads

[dire viper]

I see so many Grenadiers here now

[hazy frost]

There’s roads here I can’t even fit down with another car coming

Idk how anyone drives an SUV

[hazy frost]

I haven’t seen one in years

[dire viper]

I mean that’s probably true

They didn’t get delivered until a few months ago

[hazy frost]

I mean defender included lol

Same principle

[dire viper]

Real

New defender is cringe as fuck

[hazy frost]

True

What engine did the old one that didn’t die immediately have

[dire viper]

The Ineos stuff won’t sell as well because it’s actual truck

It’s body on frame

[hazy frost]

I’ve seen the new defender a couple times

Stupid ass car

It’s way too big for the UK

[dire viper]

The transfer case is manual and requires actually forcing a lever to drop into 4 high/low

Where as it’s electric in most vehicles

Mechanical boxes are simpler and more reliable so it makes sense

[hazy frost]

I think they should make only SUVs and trucks made for practical purposes that annoy average people so they stop buying them and I can actually drive without fear of death everywhere in the UK

[dire viper]

It uses a B58 and the funny ZF automatic

So reliable

[hazy frost]

Right

New one will break down halfway home from the dealership

[dire viper]

True

Well I think it uses ZF8HP

Which is the most reliable automatic transmission ever made

[hazy frost]

Also the new rovers get stolen constantly here the insurance is wild on them bc of that

So I’m not sure why anyone buys them

Someone I know had the same one stolen 4 times from his driveway lmao

[dire viper]

B58 doesn’t have issues, it’s running the low power one also, same block and internals are rated for like 100 more bhp in the M240/M340

[hazy frost]

Yeah I don’t doubt it

[dire viper]

Cause now jags are for old ppl

[hazy frost]

I’ve never heard anyone complain about those defenders

[dire viper]

The generational wealth mfs don’t want something boomers drive

So they buy land rovers

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[dire viper]

Sorry, range rovers

[hazy frost]

In some parts of London the insurance is like half the price of the car

[dire viper]

Calling a Range Rover a Land Rover is disrespectful to the OG Defender

[hazy frost]

True

[dire viper]

Land Rover wolf also

[hazy frost]

There’s not a single nice Range Rover tbh

They’re not practical or pretty or comfortable particularly

[dire viper]

The pink panther land rovers with funny mounted machine guns

[hazy frost]

I’d rather drive the 150hp Mazda suv

Honestly

Lmao

[dire viper]

They weren’t called pink panthers for nothing

Literally pink camo cause the sand is pink

[hazy frost]

Land rovers used to be cool

Sucks that most British companies went to shit really tho lol

[dire viper]

Rover was so good then bam

Dog shit

[hazy frost]

Most of the British cars sucked when new tbh

But they’re worse now

[dire viper]

Something something bought out

They’ve been bad since like

The 70’s

Jaguar is fine now

Somehow

The Tata money helped, they got to just do their thing

[hazy frost]

Vauxhall, mini, and TVR used to have cool stuff

[dire viper]

But now they’re not making any cars for a year cause EV time

Mini GP cars

GP2

[hazy frost]

Pretty sure some of the new diesels had issues tho

[dire viper]

Yea they did

It’s a ford diesel I think

[hazy frost]

JCW cooper was awesome

[dire viper]

So LMAO

[hazy frost]

Yeah self explanatory

Anything actually made in Britain is probably worse anyway

[dire viper]

Jag has had its up and downs

Same with Aston

But now they’re both good

[hazy frost]

New vantage is nice

[dire viper]

Aston V12’s are still British built

All the V8’s are AMG’s tho

They’re better AMG engines tho

Old style V8’s, not the newer ones

[hazy frost]

I’m amazed this country produced something not completely shit in the last 10 years

[dire viper]

Just boosted to hell and back so they have a lot of power off boost and then the boost kicks you in the nuts

[hazy frost]

I still just think the British stuff is really boring compared to what else you can get

[dire viper]

Sarah got to whip a DB12 around

It’s insane apparently

[hazy frost]

In a vacuum they’re cool definitely but like

When u look at other stuff u could buy

Still feels kind of mediocre

[dire viper]

I think Aston Martin stands out because there isn’t a lot of stuff really comparable?

Porsche?

That’s it?

Super fast super well handling GT cars

Lamborghini and Ferrari are different

[hazy frost]

I think I’d rather have the turbo S than the DB12

[dire viper]

That’s fair

I just think the style of an Aston is cooler

https://youtu.be/8FQ_q5EnC5U?si=j-HVOyLuROiQHfja

[hazy frost]

It stands out more I guess they do look distinctly different compared to the modern 911s

[dire viper]

Aston to me is British muscle cars

And europes only muscle car producer

[hazy frost]

Is the 12 cilindri not comparable to the db12 anyway

[potent arrow]

It is british muscle car

[dire viper]

They’ve kept the go like hell mentality from when the original V8 Vantage came out in the 70’s

[potent arrow]

db12 sex

[dire viper]

Yea

12Cilindri is more like a DBS

But the new DBS will be more insane

[hazy frost]

I like the 12cilindri styling way more tho

Actually looks really nice

[dire viper]

cilindri is a touring touring car

[hazy frost]

How much is maintenance on a DB12 tho in comparison

Idk what they cost to run

[dire viper]

I’m not sure

Probably a lot less?

[hazy frost]

Hopefully a lot less

[dire viper]

Lot more Aston’s being built than Ferraris

DB12 starts at 250k, Cilindri starts at 470

[hazy frost]

I’ve not rly gotten to drive any modern touring cars anyway lol

Besides moving them in a garage

And that was a couple years ago so not new new

[dire viper]

They do the touring thing really good

Even a GT4 does

GT3 Touring

It’s got it in the name :)

[hazy frost]

I think they’re all a bit over the top anyway

Like the Panamera turbo should be cool tbh

Idk when the new one comes out

I liked the old one

[dire viper]

It’s out

Panamera GTS is the pure just V8 one

Slower than the Panamera S E-Hybrid tho

But lol

V8 saloon with active suspension and aero

GTS is cool

[hazy frost]

That’s the one I meant

GTS is cool too tho

I think the DB12 would be too much for me really even if I had stupid money

Also I love the estates and iirc they did a turbo S panamera touring estate or whatever

Which is awesome

Same reason I love the 3 series touring and evo 9 wagon even tho it’s not exactly an evo 9

[sly elk]

yea that's bullshit ;_;

i hate air suspensions

maaaaan

i think my linux ssd is crapping out

maybe

hmmm it thinks it's ok though

[umbral pasture]

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[sly elk]

https://geekenspiel.com/collections/286-386-486

i love these lol

[dire viper]

wtf

I found the Ineos dealer near me

Only 15 minutes away

They have 83 Grenadiers in stock lmao

No pickup versions yet in stock

[late basalt]

@dire viper you have no idea how much of a fucking pain in my god damned ass it was to change the brake fluid

it was a series of "are you fucking serious?" until i finally got it done

[dire viper]

lmao

[late basalt]

first i figured just use tire ramps to get the height i needed. makes sense right?

nope

cant get fucking leverage on the bleeder screws with the tires on

[dire viper]

yea'

all wheels off on jack stands

[late basalt]

or rather, the right leverage

didnt help i was trying to use an adjustable wrench rather than a crescent

but i fixed that too

so i go to take off the R rear tire to start there after having everything set up

TWO. GOD DAMNED. ROUNDED. LUG. NUTS.

thanks walmart, fucking thanks

[dire viper]

car stuff never goes right

its why its the best

biggest time sink known to man

[late basalt]

so i manage to find an auto store that sells the right size of lug strippers

manage to get one lug out, but apparently an impact driver doesnt exactly have the uggadugga needed to bust it out afterwards

so i said fuck this bullshit and bought the biggest impact wrench i could from walmart that uses the same batteries as my other tools

fucker weighs nearly 10 pounds

[dire viper]

lmao

[late basalt]

thankfully i bought a full set of 20 lugs from orielly's though

because i had to hammer-fit or chisel flats into at least 4 more lugs beyond the two i originally knew about just on the rear tires

and that leads to the next comedy of bullshit i had to deal with

[dire viper]

nothing is ever easy 😔

[late basalt]

https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/c/dorman-autograde/tire---wheel/wheel-lug-nuts---studs/lug-nut/835b5ec42d53/dorman-autograde-m12-1-50-thread-17mm-hex-wheel-lug-nut/dag0/713385a?q=lug+nut&pos=1

these are the lugs i got to replace em with

they're 17mm long nuts

[dire viper]

now imagine diagnosing why a 50 year old car wont start and it uses a fuel system that hasnt been used for 40 years

[late basalt]

GUESS WHAT SIZE SOCKET ISNT INCLUDED IN THE METRIC DEEP-WELL IMPACT SET I BOUGHT

[dire viper]

and basically there is no documentation other than insane people in germany who just know

[late basalt]

https://tenor.com/bNCwD.gif

[dire viper]

"its ze Kraftstoffverteiler clearly ya ya ya"

17 isnt that crazy

[late basalt]

by some fucking miracle, because these dont have the shoulder the OEM ones have, it cant hold the hub cap

[dire viper]

just not that common

lmao

[late basalt]

and for only that reason, the crescent wrench set i had DOES have a 17mm

so i was able to get the lugs tightened enough for a quick 10-minute pucker ride to the nearest hardware store to buy a 17mm deep-well socket

threw the bastard onto the breaker bar right in the parking lot and finished tightening them before driving home

[dire viper]

god that sounds about right

one of my friends buys and sells VW Rabbits and he bought a Rabbit pickup that he then blew up the oil pan but because it was a diesel that thing ran on no oil for like a whole ass day of driving from where he bought it

[late basalt]

sadly i still have to bleed the front calipers, but i'm fine waiting a few days before that round of bullshit

[dire viper]

we pulled the motor and it was fine

didnt even need a rebuild, just added oil

[late basalt]

sounds like it didnt run on no oil, but ran on oil

[dire viper]

yea basically lmao

old 4 cylinder diesel

makes no power

slow as fuck

meaning its not stressed at all

so it doesnt even get that hot

[late basalt]

overall i'm just pissed at the amount of money on what is (for now) effectively a one time use

[dire viper]

literally just this, 45 year old tiny truck?

[dire viper]

you can buy a little thing on amazon that tells you the health of your brake fluid btw

[late basalt]

didnt need to

fluid in the master cylinder reservior was piss-yellow

[dire viper]

thats normal

thats the color it supposed to be

[late basalt]

nah, for my car it's clear out of the bottle