technology-discussion

[sly elk]

Except maybe the double folding phone

[real edge]

meanwhile me having to buy every phone at full price

[sly elk]

Same lol

I use Google fi

OK that's not fair

Google fi actually does have discounted Google and Samsung phone deals and sometimes they're quite good

[real edge]

is that an american thing

[hazy frost]

I buy all my phones anyway bc I don’t like monthly payments

But I buy from Apples refurbished store

It’s always like 20-30% off

Samsung don’t have a very good refurbished store

Apple give u new battery, outer shell, screen so u just get a new phone for less money

[real edge]

seems like I will wait until next year till I get any new phone

maybe the pixel 9a will turn out to be a decent piece of hardware

or the pixel 10 with the new processor if it does not cost an arm and a leg like the 9 pro

[sly elk]

These are nothing to write home about

[sly elk]

The nice thing about Google fi deals is they are like a 3 or 4 month commitment and not a 2-3 year one

Xl is 749 for me

[real edge]

id consider getting it if it was 749

instead of

1220

[sly elk]

849 for that particular model with 256gb and pink

[real edge]

pink is the cheapest here

black is the more expensive

id consider it if it was 750 ngl

ohh wait is that a carrier

[sly elk]

750 is the 128gb

It's not rbw color

Also yea Google fi is a carrier here

But yea their carrier deals are usually more favorable because their service is on the cheap side and they only ask for a like 4 month contract not a 2 year one

Also doesn't require financing the phone

[real edge]

damn

[sharp star]

https://x.com/BetterPitchGuy/status/1842212067731755284

PitchDeckGuy (@BetterPitchGuy) on X

Single worst piece of software ever invented

Twitter · Oct 4, 2024, 2:35 PM

[lost python]

vietnam flashbacks to that time i had to upgrade user hardware in an office with 700 employees and they used onedrive for their data storage and backups

we came up with the jankiest workarounds for this nonfunctional shit

[hazy frost]

The tensor processor is garbage so I doubt it

[real edge]

at least it wont cost 1200

[hazy frost]

Yeah but it’s also behind the stuff that isn’t 1200

Bc it’s worse than flagships with processors from 3 years ago that aren’t 1200 now

[real edge]

the oneplus 12r

has a faster processor

than the pixel 9 pro xl

500 phone vs 1200

[hazy frost]

Yeah

That’s why I don’t own a pixel yet

Love the camera and physical design but the battery and processor are awful still

The pixel 9 pro is equivalent to like an iPhone 12 in that sense

Which is truly incredible

[real edge]

I just want a oneplus phone but with 6-7 years of support instead of 3-4

[hazy frost]

I’m pretty sure my old iPhone is still getting software updates even tho I bought a new one

[real edge]

iPhones are extremely expensive in greece

like 1500 for the new one

[hazy frost]

Honestly if u pay 400 for a phone every 3 years it’ll be 800 for 6 years instead of buying a flagship for 1200 for 6 years of support

[hazy frost]

That’s normal

Do u have the Apple refurbished store in Greece or not

It’s on their official site

That’s where I got my 14 pro for like £850 instead of £1200

Honestly 4 years of software support is decent if ur paying like 500

[real edge]

oneplus nord 4 has 4 years of OS updates and 6 years of security patches

allegedly

but I do not see apple refurbished

where on their website is it?

[hazy frost]

Oneplus 12R is still my vote for one of the best value phones

[hazy frost]

I can’t remember how u get to it I normally just look up certified refurbished to find it

It might not be in all countries but it’s in a few

[real edge]

ohh its under store

but the greek website does not have store

[hazy frost]

Rip

I’d buy the oneplus 12R then there’s nothing with better support rly and the specs for money u pay is good rn

Assuming u don’t want something used that still has 6 years left

[real edge]

a refurbished iPhone 14 pro max is like

900euro

[hazy frost]

That’s actually somewhat reasonable

Processors are still top tier and battery and camera has barely changed since the 14

But it does have 5-6 years left of support now bc it’s older

[real edge]

I wonder if the 12r sold well enough to where they will release a new one of the same kind

[hazy frost]

I hope so

It’s basically the only phone I think is worth the money below $800-900 rn

Excluding used and refurbished models

Except when Google recently sold the pixel 8 pro for like $550 or something before the 9 came out

[real edge]

if I had to buy the 12r I would do it as soon as its released cause I want the most years of support as possible

cause oneplus is stingy with support

4 years of OS updates

[hazy frost]

4 years on the mid range phones is pretty good

[real edge]

at least its not the 3 I got with the 5T lmao

[hazy frost]

4 years for $500 phones is what I expect

Atl 6-8 for any flagship phone tho

ATP I feel like no company can actually get more than half the things I want right anyway

[real edge]

google says that their new phones have 7 years of support, even the cheaper a versions

if they do not break that promise

[hazy frost]

Yeah but it was $600? For the 128gb one and had terrible hardware so ehh

7 years of software support doesn’t mean much when that phone will be painful to use within 4 years anyway

[real edge]

thats what oneplus said about their support

[hazy frost]

Hopefully this will be negated by the 10 or 11 when they switch to new processors and battery life is getting slightly better with the 9 already

[hazy frost]

It’s reasonable tbh

It sounds like a lame excuse but it’s kind of just true

[real edge]

but when my phone still works fine after 7 years I just kind of find that point moot

only bad thing on this phone is the camera

[hazy frost]

Pixel 8a is bottom of the barrel hardware it’s like a $300 phone that’s not $300

[real edge]

it was considered mediocre camera even during its release

I remember reviews on it

[hazy frost]

The 12R or like xiaomi 13 I understand being 500

Pixel 8a I can’t understand

Their main thing is the camera but the 8a doesn’t have that anyway

[hazy frost]

Mediocre camera is fine if the rest makes up for it

There should be stuff to cater to everyone’s priorities

[real edge]

the reason I bought the 5t was its high performance for the time that rivaled flagships of the time

cause I did not see myself purchasing a new phone for a very long time

I am gonna follow the same buying policy now

[hazy frost]

I just want everything which most phones don’t have at all even flagships

[real edge]

just gonna add years of security updates to the list of policies

[hazy frost]

U either have bad OS bloat, bad battery life, bad camera, or bad processor

U can’t have everything

And it’s quite annoying

[hazy frost]

I mean would it be that bad to pay like 400-500 again in 4 years

[real edge]

yeah cause I only get 338 a month

so when I buy sth for a hefty price

its a big deal

[hazy frost]

In the grand scheme of things it’s still not the worst, and I don’t think ur gonna get what u want realistically

There’s nothing for 500 with the hardware and software support to last over like 5 years

[real edge]

the 5T lasted for me

just not the years of support

[hazy frost]

Yeah u won’t get both

No one does it

Pixel will be too slow and they’re the only people actually giving 7 years officially

Everything with good hardware gives 4-5

[real edge]

I wish phones had as much support as PC hardware does

[hazy frost]

It would be nice but

U get different support on every part of ur PC as well

[real edge]

12r is ranked like

77

[hazy frost]

For what

What ranking

[real edge]

nord like

113

https://nanoreview.net/en/phone-list/antutu-rating

[hazy frost]

And the pixel 9 pro is 129 lmao

I doubt the 9a will be what u want there

Google being disappointing again

The oneplus 11R and xiaomi 12 are both still above it too let alone the 12R and 13

And they cost $700 less

[real edge]

every review I have seen of the pixel 9 pro says that it feels like the complete phone now

and that the only bad thing about it is its processor

so if they fix the processor next year that should be it

in theory

[hazy frost]

Battery life is still subpar

It’s better than the 8 pro but well behind the 15 pro and 24 ultra atm

The video playback on the 9 is fine but the battery life when doing something more intensive or just background drain is worse still

The 9 pro XL is like somewhat decent bc it’s got a giant battery in it as well

If they keep up improvement from the 8 to the 9 and the new processor in the 10 it should be great

I’m expecting some level of issues when they switch to the new processors tho lol

[paper tusk]

hmm that should have reset the tiles in start menu to default 😐

[modern iris]

Is my powershell borked too?

[paper tusk]

I would just reset windows at this point

[modern iris]

yeah i guess i'll have to do that

man i wish i knew what was goin on, i've never even seen anything like this

and i've been through a lot of power cuts

[paper tusk]

there is a preservation option though

would do that first

and big mood

[modern iris]

ooh just before i left to go to work, i found out i can bypass the broken settings menu by goin on the Microsoft help site and they have links that take you directly to the setting, so i can reset it that way later

[paper tusk]

nice

[modern iris]

now hopefully the recovery tool didn't get corrupted too

[kindred brook]

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1fwm8cl/intel_confirms_13th14th_gen_core_instability_has/

is this true?

[sharp star]

I hope so

because I still can’t recommend Intel unless there’s hard data

[sly elk]

don't worry, before you know it we'll be hard recommending intel and making fun of AMD again

[paper tusk]

judging by the state of x870 motherboards (price for usb 4 nobody honestly cares that much about) the competition is welcome right about now

[sly elk]

lol

[sharp star]

apparently Wendell’s saying it’s been fixed

[sly elk]

so @tame fulcrum you gonna buy that core ultra?

[lost python]

fellow nerds wake up, they released a big ublock origin blocklist to filter out AI shit from your search results
https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

[hazy frost]

I hope so but Intel have said ‘this will fix it’ a few times now

[lost python]

fractal finally updated me that a box of new screws is on the way to me

i asked them what about the fans that also corroded and they have been ghosting me ever since

[wraith agate]

thank god

[sly elk]

Important Read:

Right now, please use uBlacklist instead of uBlock Origin for now. Needs a little restructuring to fix DOM targeting. You can still try uBlock, but it will probably not work as you expect it to...

bla

[sly elk]

i feel like there hasn't been a single night this week

I'm getting sick of this!

oh fuck it's a kernel update

[kindred brook]

how do hot plates generate enough heat to solder connections but not hot enough to destroy a pcb

[cerulean talon]

Solder melts at a much lower temperature than fr4 debonds

[sly elk]

lol it's the shutdown thing for gnome

but the problem is if I don't uncheck 'install pending software updates' it won't wait for akmods to update the nvidia driver

so I have to boot into recovery mode and run akmods update manually which is a little annoyance

but this past week I've gotten updates 3 times lol

[sly elk]

Hehe saw a vinfast charging at Amazon go

[modern iris]

I reset my PC and it seems to have done it okay

Gotta wait for the spooky blue update screen to go away first

[modern iris]

ooh i think it worked?

some of my programs seem to have gone weird but reinstalling them seems to fix them

[royal forge]

Man that looks like a disaster waiting to happen

[hard drift]

It’s expected, they’re doing 1thread per core now

[modern iris]

i told it to keep my files but a bunch of stuff got uninstalled

[hard drift]

Given its early i expect that getting rid of hyperthreading intel can manage some great gains especially power draw wise

[modern iris]

no i mean all the files from program files and (x86) are gone

[hard drift]

They have it in them, at this point they have to bring something major to disrupt amds marketshare gains

[modern iris]

gawd i hope i don't have to download FF14 again

[hard drift]

If you do, take it as a sign to quit the game

[modern iris]

NEVER!!!

[hard drift]

It’s so boring though

[modern iris]

no it's not 🥺

DAMN IT IT DELETED MY perfectly legitimate COPY OF PHOTOSHOP

that was a pain in the butt to install

now i'll have to go through all the trouble of legitimately and legally acquiring it again

[hard drift]

the delusion is strong with this one

[modern iris]

i'm still a sprout tho so there's all this NEW stuff to do

[hard drift]

okay that's fair, you're new

[modern iris]

i'm sure there'll be plenty of time to get bored and burnt out once i get to end game

[hard drift]

i don't have to 😐

[modern iris]

uhhh why am i not the administrator after reinstalling??

i'm the only user

wait, no i AM

why is it blocking me from installing winrar

[sly elk]

a standard 20ft container is 59.3 m^3 and water is 1000kg/m^3 so about 130,000lbs

not including the weight of the empty container

typically around 5000lbs

huh this disagrees but still, the weight restriction is concerning

Volume: 1,172 cubic feet (33.2 cubic meters)
Weight: It has a tare weight of 5,070 lbs. (2300 kg), a maximum payload weight (max cargo weight) of 55,126.9 lbs. (25,000 kg), and a maximum gross weight of 60,197 lbs. (27,305 kg).

that actually makes a lot of sense, though

i think shipping containers usually aren't great for things other than shipping

[pine thistle]

why even install that

[modern iris]

why not

[pine thistle]

7zip :D

[sly elk]

is it one of those security things? lol

[pine thistle]

doesn't even nag you to buy it

[sly elk]

or did you download the wrong version

[modern iris]

i dunno it was an older version maybe Windows didnt like it

i got the most recent one now anyways

[sly elk]

i used to use 7zip but it depends on whether i need to do something windows explorer can't extract or not

but eh? 😄

[modern iris]

i did use 7zip a while ago but i didnt really like the UI

[sly elk]

who needs that when you daily drive mac/linux? 😄

[hard drift]

winzip ftw

[pine thistle]

I just use the explorer context menu options so don't really care for the ui

[pine thistle]

altough those are also less annoying to use since I'm on win10

[sly elk]

WORD. I didn't even remember 7zip having a UI LMAO

just the right click menu

oh yeaaaaa

-shudder- thanks for reminding me about that LOL

[pine thistle]

I wonder if I should keep a backup of a win10 iso somewhere

[sly elk]

there's a stupid registry hack to turn that shit off, right?

[pine thistle]

so far I've managed to avoid having to deal with win11

but I can see us having to upgrade at work eventually

so I hope there is a registry hack

[modern iris]

oh thank gawd FF14 is still installed

aw man all the uhhh

the y'know

are gone

[potent arrow]

I think my main issue with win11 nit pick wise is this shit

oh wait

I CANT EVEN DEMO ON THIS MACHINE

instead of it saying copy and paste it has these tiny lil icons

that my stupid bad eyes cant see

[pine thistle]

why not use ctrl + [xcv]

same

also renaming stuff by weirdly double clicking things instead of just pressing F2

or using right click > rename instead of f2

[dire viper]

https://www.torquenews.com/11826/geico-terminating-insurance-coverage-tesla-cybertrucks-says-type-vehicle-doesnt-meet-our/amp

[sly elk]

it's interesting because up until yesterday or so, the only cybertrucks for sale cost >$100k

so it's not like they're selling these to broke people with 530 credit scores

[wraith agate]

Hey do you guys know a cheap external SSD, something that fits FFXIV at least

[lost python]

i recently bought a crucial X9 and it was pretty good

there is also the x6 which is slower and cheaper

[sly elk]

eh -shrug- I use a m.2 nvme in a usb housing

[sharp star]

Same, also prefer a M.2 in housing

[sly elk]

amazon has 5700x3ds for $181, idk if that's a special deal but, nice price

[hazy frost]

AliExpress has them for $130 if u wait 1-2 weeks for shipping

[lost python]

i mean, the crucial is exactly that. an m.2 ssd in a case with USB port

[hazy frost]

It’s also slow and expensive compared to what you’d get buying a regular m.2 ssd for around that price

It’s like a $35 ssd priced at $80 or something

[lost python]

a 1tb x9 is like 70€ here.
a 1tb m.2 starts at like 50€.
a usb case for said ssd is like 20€ and then you are still limited by the slow speeds of the usb controllers inside those unless you go for a faster one, which will then also become much more expensive.

[hazy frost]

Ur not going to be limited by the controller on a usb case that costs €20

[lost python]

lol ofc you are. almost all of them cap out at like 900-1000MB/s

[hazy frost]

An expensive one around €20 is doing more than 900-1000

[lost python]

even the fancy cooler master oracle air caps out there and that one costs double of that

[hazy frost]

Yeah that’s just a bad product

More expensive doesn’t always mean more better

[lost python]

all i can find tests of that are in the cheaper range are at around those speeds or lower

and those i could find tests of that are faster, are usually 60€+

[hazy frost]

Even if ur spending 50 instead of 20-25 ur doubling the speed of the ssd ur actually using and the overall price isn’t double

Ur going from €70 to 95 maybe 100 but it’s more than twice as fast

[lost python]

i mean, yeah. if you spend more money you will get better results

but if someone is asking for a cheap one, then i dont think they really want to spend more

[modest moss]

be aware that FFXIV has a history of being a twat when running it from an external

[sharp star]

yeah wouldn’t recommend running the game off externals anyway

[modest moss]

might be fine, but we've seen more than a few instances of it just being shit

[wraith agate]

Hmm

Well my internal storage isn't enough

[modest moss]

add another drive?

[wraith agate]

Maybe the game won't even run on it

[sharp star]

not able to clone the drive to a new one?

[modest moss]

are you really using all your m.2 and sata ports?

[wraith agate]

Hold up, for the record

We are talking about a laptop

Not a PC

So no idea

[sharp star]

Is... the drive soldered?

[hazy frost]

U could still add another drive

[modest moss]

oh I assumed your desktop

[wraith agate]

I bought this one back in 2019

[modest moss]

what laptop is it

[wraith agate]

I am moving to Nederlands next year and I can't bring my PC, at first

Uhh I think it's an asus but more than that I don't remember atm, have to check later

[modest moss]

congrats on moving somewhere safer

[wraith agate]

Ty, it's still a few months off

But I'm excited

I want to start HRT before I hit 30

[inland mauve]

Netherlands mentioned 🌷 🇳🇱 🦁

[wraith agate]

Yup

Moving there

So I can bully you personally :D

[inland mauve]

[sharp star]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PcBuild/s/geiSStJ3if

[potent arrow]

I will pay you so much money to drop a bunch of pipes on him irl lol

[wraith agate]

just pay some dudes to deliver my PC to the country

[potent arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nPgdKnLc5I

I SUMMONED HIM

looks like a know my next case

[sharp star]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomwarren/status/1843331633392562277

[golden stream]

AYO OPTIMUM
Ye solid sff case dude

[lost python]

can i bully you then for all the times you wanted to play and then never said anything again?

[wraith agate]

No

Because I got chompers

[cerulean talon]

It's important to have a nomfh setup.

[lost python]

[inland mauve]

ahhhh DaVinci Resolve locks the transcribe function behind the paywall

there we go, I was wondering when I was going to run into the limitations of the free edition

honestly surprised how many features it offers for free

[dire viper]

What happened to spending hundreds of millions of dollars to verify if a single piece of technology is suitable for mass production

We used to spend 2 billion plus on a single fuggin car

Lexus LS from the 90’s had around 2.5 billion spent on its development, half of that was just on the V8

Mercedes spent about that much on their 190E from the 80’s

And the 190E is still a compelling car today which is absurd

[wraith agate]

You are in post-late stage capitalism

Nobody cares about that stuff

It's profit all the way down

[dire viper]

It’s been post late stage since it started

[wraith agate]

Well it got even later

[dire viper]

It’s been profit since the start, it’s just companies get bought out by accountants and conmen

Mercedes was making a profit even spending so much on development

It’s just 1989 and 1990 happened

America being poor is bad profits for most global companies

Especially cars

70% of V12 Mercedes have been sold in the US since the introduction of the S600 and SL600 in 1989

[wraith agate]

I mean...

They did have a crash in 1987, yes?

[dire viper]

The LS400 and 190E were both entirely designed with the US market in mind

[wraith agate]

It was a pretty huge stock market crash too

[dire viper]

Black Monday didn’t effect car sales that much, considering that people’s buying power in general was higher than now

Like it wasn’t just rich mfs buying Porsches and Mercedes

[wraith agate]

Probably

But at the same economic downturn still affects secondary markets

If not immediately then soon after

[dire viper]

Plus, with the car development craze of the 80’s and 90’s, everybody had to be competitive with pricing

You had Japanese cars out performing the top dogs from Germany and the US

And the Japanese cars were always cheaper

The Ferrari F40 and F50 sat at dealers for years even during the car buying craze from 86 to 94

Cause they were still absurdly expensive even when people were paying 100,000 over sticker for a Mercedes SL500

100k over sticker in 1990

Absurd

Nobody could really build cars fast enough

[sly walrus]

elon

he figured those hundreds of millions would be better off in his pockets

[dire viper]

true

idk

the new Model 3 looks better but the interior is worse cause its a full Tesla interior

same deal with Mercedes, they started chasing fads

https://youtu.be/fPXejiDLUNs?si=EebTNBBu9TxIUmbL

wait AKG makes car audio systems now

they make the upgraded audio packages for Cadillac now ig

this is a good EV cause its just a Cadillac but electric

I feel bad for Europeans not having easy access to the actually good GM brand cars 😔

Cadillac, Camaro etc

I know the Germans have a habit of importing american muscle cars

they like the Camaro's and Blackwings

and my grandmas brother, back in the 80's, sold a lot of muscle cars to a guy who sold exclusively in germany

sold him a lot of early 70's late 60's muscle cars including a one of one Challenger

that car resold for like 300k more than he sold the guy that car for

[pine thistle]

I wonder, if GPU sag is a thing, why aren't there more cases where the motherboard is horizontal so its not an issue

[potent arrow]

people hate wide cases

more footprint on the desk

a lot of times it's the stupid flimsy PCIe cutouts in the case that cause the the sag

case makers should find a way to extend it a bit or reinforce it

[pine thistle]

ah, fair enough I guess

[potent arrow]

gone are the days of putting your monitor on PC cases

[pine thistle]

maybe I'll look for a horizontal case whenever I build a new pc

[potent arrow]

or just use an anti sag bracket

[pine thistle]

I'll keep that in mind

[dire viper]

I got that at work dw

I’m still living that life

[sly elk]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1645083-REG/lian_li_o11d_mini_s_o11_dynamic_mini_tower_case.html

good deal but i think you have to use a sff power supply

$69 for an o11 mini

[sharp star]

nice

[scenic haven]

Is anyone using G-Sync while being in Borderless Windowed mode? Would love to know how.

[real edge]

huh

just go to to your display settings

and enable gsync for borderless and windowed mode

[scenic haven]

I did. I still have stutters. Only works in fullscreen

[real edge]

gsync reduces screen tearing

what kind of stuttering are you getting

you have this, correct?

[scenic haven]

Yes, exactly the same settings. I will record later what my issue is, servers are down

[real edge]

are you playing ffxiv?

in your display settings, do you have your monitors refresh rate as high as it can go?

what are your pc specs

[scenic haven]

Its german but there it is

rtx 3070, 32gb ram, amd r5 5600x

[real edge]

so you do have it at 144hz which is your max

ok

[scenic haven]

Exactly

[real edge]

do you have fps uncapped in ffxiv?

[scenic haven]

Yes

[real edge]

cap it to your monitors refreshrate

in ffxiv only

if ff14 is the only game that has the issue

[scenic haven]

What about nvidia settings? Usually its turn on vsync and off ingame

[real edge]

if you have gsync enabled

turn vsync off

you do not need it

and cap your framerate in-game

its better that way

vsync is useless when you have gsync enabled

[scenic haven]

Thats not true.

[real edge]

both reduce screen tearing

thats their purpose

vsync is actual hardware for the most part so it introduces input latency

gsync is through the display itself

[scenic haven]

Im sorry but you might be misinformed here, i suggest googling for an in depth answer

[real edge]

just do it dude, disable vsync, and cap your fps in-game through the in-game fps limiter

and see if that fixes the issue

[scenic haven]

I tried both, thats not my point

[real edge]

if you tried and you have stuttering then have you checked the thermals of your system

[scenic haven]

I will try disabling gsync alltogether, just saw someone mention it

[scenic haven]

All good temps, i checked everything. Gpu wont go over 70c

[real edge]

ive never had stuttering issues in ffxiv with gsync enabled personally

[scenic haven]

I know windows 11 has the fix for that but i dont want to switch

[real edge]

and I have amd cpu and nvidia gpu too

weird

[scenic haven]

no stuttering while borderless?

[real edge]

no

reason why I said the vsync stuff is cause its the only thing I can think of that might be different with our systems

[scenic haven]

The stuttering is barely visible. Its not like its unplayable, but the smoothness of being in full screen is just unparallel

[scenic haven]

I get that, but i did try both.

[real edge]

I use win10 as well

[scenic haven]

The way you can't alt tab in full-screen because of a blackscreen for 10 seconds whenever you go back to the game makes me feel like this game is a small dev team.

EDIT: Its not ff14's issue. Disregard

Really sad because i love ff14.

[real edge]

what driver do you have

driver version

[scenic haven]

565.90

[real edge]

you could try one of the stable driver versions the community has agreed are stable and see if that fixes it

rollback essentially

[scenic haven]

Where is that?

[real edge]

if you are desperate

https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1ftnsvn/game_ready_driver_56590_faqdiscussion/

here

might be worth trying if you want

[scenic haven]

Im reading the comments for fun and apparently a lot of people have this exclusive fullscreen alt tab problem

[real edge]

yup

driver issue

rollback to 551.86 or 552.22 and see if that fixes your problems

537.58 is considered one of the best drivers

but its pretty old

so try 551.86 or 552.22 first

[scenic haven]

will try but im cooking something hold on

[scenic haven]

May have found a fix but im waiting on the server to go up, if that doesnt work i will try that. Thank you for the info!

[real edge]

[sly elk]

i thought nvidia didn't have driver issues /s

sorry to hear you're going through that crap though

ahhh schlage keeps tempting me with their apple homekey compatible lock

plus side: unlock with my friggin watch! so cool!

minus side: It's wifi. which means that the fucking thing's gonna get deprecated at some point

i have a 9 year old z-wave lock that works great because you can swap out the z-wave hub lol

[paper tusk]

you should see intel arc's driver log. changes for new games and that's about it

so far (nvidia) studio drivers have been good for me

[lost python]

fractal: hey your screws are on the way
screws arrive, its only thumbscrews and fan screws, but not those for the motherboard.
i reply to them, also asking for the fans
fractal: your ticket has been marked as resolved

[inland mauve]

what happened to fractal, man

they used to be so good

[potent arrow]

do you want me to contact that rep lol

[lost python]

im gonna wait and see what this other mystery package that is stuck in sweden for 3 days is

[potent arrow]

LMAOOOO

[lost python]

if its also fractal then all will be good i guess, but ups said its delayed for unknown reasons until an unknown date

[inland mauve]

Rob is going to call them like "if you don't solve my issues I will send my friend after you"
"lol what friend"
"Sarah Olivetti"
"your screws will be there tomorrow"

[potent arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-pipe-gif-27050590

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-typing-stop-typing-type-stop-it-gif-666330295541634270

[potent arrow]

you can hear its power

[inland mauve]

I'm organizing vods so I literally can

for some reason a Satisfactory vod was in the Pacific Drive folder

[potent arrow]

god

can you

make a supercut of metal pipe

so I can then remix it into a song

[inland mauve]

well I am probably going to buy a license for DVR to get access to the automated transcription function

if it can detect metalpipe.mp3

then I can

[lost python]

it better be this song https://youtu.be/iuJDhFRDx9M

[inland mauve]

otherwise no fucking way

you have no idea how much footage I have

no wait you do

because you download all my vods too

oh my god it literally just played in the vod I was reviewing

[lost python]

lmao

[inland mauve]

just to put things into perspective, I unlocked the Twitch achievement for 500 hours streamed a few weeks ago

it is so much

respect editors

[lost python]

nice

hire me and i will edit for u

[inland mauve]

[potent arrow]

proxy editing is your friend

[hard drift]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-admits-core-ultra-9-285k-will-be-slower-than-i9-14900k-in-gaming rip intel 😭

[sharp star]

It's over Intel bros...

[hard drift]

80w less power draw and 3 fps less on average is pretty good though

[hazy frost]

But that’s still not enough to compete with the 7800x3d and obviously 9900x3d 9950x3d and 9800x3d

Sadly

Less power draw if it’s still faster for the stuff Intel was actually good for anyway like video editing would be nice tho

[sly elk]

didn't realize these were a thing

[cerulean talon]

They're decent-ish, I used one with my KVM because it prefered them for the giga-high speed stuff, and they worked fine, little janky here and ther,e but they're expensive for the lengths.

[sly elk]

displayport in general is janky

[cerulean talon]

Yeah.

[dense ore]

feel free to DM me your PC issues and we'll get to the bottom of it worked in it for 12 years love problem solving!

[sharp star]

what

[potent arrow]

dude

stop advertising your services here like this

just help out

if you want, but use the existing channels

[sharp star]

@dense ore repeating the above but you either help out or you don't. you don't get to advertise your services in this server and expect people to come to you about it

[dense ore]

just trying to help thats all sorry not a service not gaining anything out of it. just letting people know they can dm me for help. lota questions go unanswered

[potent arrow]

People can leave messages here or in the forum, feel free to answer them in either of these channels

[dense ore]

ok

[sharp star]

https://vxtwitter.com/tomwarren/status/1843720987747201486

[dense ore]

is it bad that im actually playing this loudly and enjoying it!

[dire viper]

Ngl this could be AI generated or real, I’m kind of leaning on real cause the timbre isn’t weird or skewed from what I can tell, sounds genuinely like someone’s voice

SoundCloud rapper found dead after forced to sing shittiest corporate shill song ever

[paper tusk]

We need to explain to you clearly that Microsoft 365 subscription includes OneDrive storage 1 TB and Outlook mailbox storage 50 GB which are included in Microsoft Storage. And when the subscription expires, Microsoft will keep the subscriber's information for 90 days, after 90 days Microsoft will delete the user's data and it is not repairable. onedrive bay bay

[sly elk]

I really should get my pictures off onedrive lol

idk where to host things in a simple easily retrievable and deletable sorta way that doesn't violate the shit out of my privacy

aside from using backblaze and encrypted disk images

which just sounds like a fucking pain in the ass

[wraith agate]

Build your own cloud storage

[sly walrus]

the thing with cloud storage is it's gonna rain

[wraith agate]

List'n

No

T'is not the time for jokes

[cerulean talon]

It's always time for jokes.

[sly walrus]

if we don't laugh, all we'll do is cry

[sly elk]

i may have made an idiot mistake

some mice tried to nest in my jeep's engine bay and i noticed when taking the battery out

so I pulled the battery and decided i wanted to replace the entire tray because it's a shit design anyway

decided to pull the fuse box while I was at it and have a detailer clean the bay

i don't really feel confident about the plastic bags covering up where the connectors for the fuse box are LOL

https://tenor.com/view/sakuragi-hinako-hinako-note-cute-smile-embarrassed-gif-12801727

[cerulean talon]

It'll be fiiiiine.

Roomie's wife's Scion xD had rats go for the wiring harness so he re-wrapped the entire harness w/ capsasisn embedded tape.

[wraith agate]

That's clever

But now I wanna eat the harness

[cerulean talon]

High copper diet for you I see.

[dire viper]

It’ll be fine

The one thing to not do is spray directly into the alternator

[sly elk]

lol

i thought about doing the wrap thing but it really wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be

[cerulean talon]

They clipped something important enough he had to get a full replacement harness.

He was not happy

[sly elk]

the honda rodent repellant tape

lol

i am aware of it

i was thinking to get the car's engine bay cleaned too, but it... actually looks pretty ok

dusty but no poop anywhere

[wraith agate]

Why do rats eat cables anyway?

[sly elk]

i think the heat from the battery overheating was just attracting the mice

or whatever it was

rats? squirrels? idk

[wraith agate]

Rodents of usual size

[sly elk]

the battery was overheating

i can tell you this because when I let it sit in my garage overnight it left a nice rotten egg smell to scare the crap out of us lol

[cerulean talon]

Mmmm. Sulfur.

[sly elk]

yep

i think it's because i only make relatively short <30min trips so the jeep is always trying to charge it at max voltage

also it was 5 years old

[dire viper]

Rats just eat anything

Same with mice and other stuff

They just die from it so shrug

[wraith agate]

Just like me fr fr

[hazy frost]

We used to find rats dead bc they ate glitter from my brothers art supplies box when he was younger lol

They don’t care what they’re eating at all

[sly elk]

https://old.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/1fyldzr/waymo_is_evolving_to_a_real_la_driver/

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/H9LSSluvONI?si=4sdWv95du-N4hU5U

[inland mauve]

I can't believe Twitter doesn't have a feature as basic as letting you choose the layout of an image post with multiple images

[golden stream]

indie company w barebone dev team pls understand

[hazy frost]

It is after they fired everyone lmao

90% of employees gone

[golden stream]

I forget emote

But ye, their dev team is gon

[hazy frost]

They wouldn’t be able to afford to keep them even if they wanted to now anyway lmao

[lost python]

@potent arrow guess what.

One of 3 new fans from fractal has rust

[dire viper]

997

The one thing that the Japanese do better than anybody else is actually driving their cars

Apparently it’s not that uncommon to see Ferraris in Tokyo during rush hour lmao

The super cars and normal production ones

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/quagsire-blink-blinking-gif-25635243

[potent arrow]

what is happening

what the fuck is this shit

[lost python]

i waited 2 months for this btw. and the screw package didnt include new motherboard standoffs

though those are whatever, they are cheap and i had plenty to spare, but a fan being rusty again is kinda...

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/9/24266052/nvidia-rtx-5070-ces-rumor-specs

Ayy Eye

[hazy frost]

I mean the 5080 better be more powerful than the 4090 lmfao

Would be a shit product if it’s not

The 4070super/ti was faster than the 3090/ti

[sharp star]

just like how the 4060 line is supposed to be way better than the 3060 line

[hazy frost]

I expect better from the higher tier cards at least

Doesn’t look like I’ll have a good reason to upgrade anyway if it’s considered to be close whether it’s better or not I’ll just buy a 4090

[potent arrow]

kinda where I'm at

there's nothing notable for me in the 40 series but the 4090

and I use the 3060ti lmao

[dire viper]

Sarah buy me a 4080

And a 5700X3D

And an Alfa Romeo GTAm

[sharp star]

I have $3

[hazy frost]

4070s and 4080s are cool

But they were too late for me to get those instead

4090 I’ll just buy a used one probably

[real edge]

only reason I got a 4080super is because I had a 1070 and it was starting to age

[hazy frost]

I went from a 1070 to the 4070ti

Well before the super cards came out tho

I got it the same month they released for under msrp and just took it at the time

[potent arrow]

not worth the leap for me personally

[hazy frost]

Fair

It’s a pretty huge leap between them though in general so they are good

[potent arrow]

that's the thing, 400$ between 4080 and 4090 is so small personally for the big leap it is to me

so I rather just buy the 4090

[hazy frost]

It’s

$700 between them

The 4080 super goes for 1000 and the 4090 is 1600-1700 still

[potent arrow]

I just checked my app, might be because of my license/Canada things

[hazy frost]

4090 is worth it over the others to play 4K for $400 more but not for 1440p still

[potent arrow]

that's the other thing stopping me

[hazy frost]

It’s a stupid amount faster than the 4080 and 7900xtx in 4K gaming

[potent arrow]

I still use 1080p 60hz

[hazy frost]

lol I’d get a new monitor first

[potent arrow]

I don't like higher refresh rate

[hazy frost]

For the price of a 4090 u could buy an OLED monitor and a 4070s which just proves how bad it is

[potent arrow]

and my monitor is kinda just fine, I play 14

[hazy frost]

Higher refresh rate feels nicer for everything tbh

[potent arrow]

it fucks with my head too much, idk

[hazy frost]

Even if I was just doing basic mundane stuff I’d never go back to 60/75

[potent arrow]

I get vertigo playing a lot of new games on my friends monitlr

so I never had the urge to switch

I'll probally get use to it after a bit

but eh

[hazy frost]

I don’t think that’s a refresh rate thing

You’d be more likely to feel issues with it being lower than higher

If it was flickering or screen tearing it would be a noticeable downgrade I guess

[potent arrow]

idk, it's something I've experienced

combination of a lot of things tbh, my eyes are fucked and I wear like inch glass on my face

[dire viper]

NA pricing based

[hazy frost]

I’d like to have 240hz but all OLED qhd displays are so that’s fine

[dire viper]

It’s why everybody here complains about bad value

[hazy frost]

165 is the lowest I’m gonna buy for anything

[potent arrow]

besides the point really, Im only pushing for an upgrade rn is because my PC is dying

[dire viper]

U make a GPU that has such a massive performance difference that the relative cost makes zero sense between the two

[hazy frost]

What

[dire viper]

I would just get a 4090 instead of a 4080 if I had the money, it makes zero sense to just not go up if you’re gonna splurge for top tier hardware

[hazy frost]

I mean it makes sense to buy it only for 4K

Bc

It’s rly not much different in 1440p

It’s 15% faster for 1440p but 30% faster at 4K

Which makes the price go from horrible to almost reasonable

[real edge]

I am happy with my 4080super, now whether or not it was worth 1.1k euro, thats another question entirely

[hazy frost]

I think it’s worth it

[real edge]

for me it was cause I had a 1070

but for a person that had a 3080

probably not

[hazy frost]

If u have anything worse than a 3080 the 4080 is still a huge upgrade

Bc the 3070 and below weren’t amazing 1440p cards at all

Or a 10GB 3080 I guess

[real edge]

for me I went from low-med settings with upscaling 60fps to max settings over 100fps, sometimes 200+ unless I enable ray tracing lol

[hazy frost]

lol

I went from 60fps on low to 60fps on ultra

Still worth it

[real edge]

and in darktide

I get over 100fps even with ray tracing on

[hazy frost]

4070ti was £740

[real edge]

mine was 1.100 euro

:<

[hazy frost]

Yeah kind of worth it

[real edge]

my 1070 lasted me 7 years

[hazy frost]

£740 is like €800 ish anyway

[real edge]

I wanted my next gpu to last me the next 7

[hazy frost]

I’ll probably upgrade in 2 years

And switch to an x3d cpu if they have both CCDs with the cache

And that’ll last me the next 5 or so then

I don’t think the 7700x and 4070ti would last 5 years for me

9900x3d might be perfect

[kind rune]

what

[hazy frost]

What I said

8GB vram lackluster performance

Not a 1440p card

[kind rune]

it was perfectly fine for 1440p when it was current

[hazy frost]

Not rly

[kind rune]

yes really

[hazy frost]

Nah

[kind rune]

yes

[hazy frost]

It was still a bad product then

[kind rune]

you did not need a 3080 or 3090 for 1440p

[hazy frost]

Just like the 10GB 3080 was

[kind rune]

the 3080 was also very good

[hazy frost]

A product that is only going to be good for 1 year is not a good product for that use case

The 6700xt lasted much better

[kind rune]

it wasnt only good for 1 year

[hazy frost]

I’m not gonna argue

It was a bad product

[kind rune]

not at all

[lost python]

it really depended on what you played.
because it didnt take long for the first games to appear that made it tank hard in performance due to hitting the vram limit.

[hazy frost]

If the card is invalid at the resolution for a decent number of games it’s not a good card for that resolution

Bc u could say a 1060 is a good 4K card if all u play is minesweeper otherwise

[kind rune]

4 games isnt a decent number

[hazy frost]

4 games is quite a few out of the amount of triple A releases per year tbh

Idk why u wanna defend the 3070

It should never have been an 8GB card

The performance was ok but wasn’t gonna last that long either especially at that price it was disappointing

The 3060ti was honestly a better 1440p card to buy bc atl it was a reasonable price and could run them at the time

[potent arrow]

the 3060ti is my golden card of that gen

[hazy frost]

3090 at msrp was actually kind of awesome but u couldn’t get them but then again u couldn’t rly get anything lol

3080ti instead maybe but the vram hurt

[modest moss]

my 3070ti is still perfectly good for 1440p for everything I've thrown at it

oh except TLoU on release

that was garbo

[dire viper]

I just got a normal 3070

It struggles sometimes

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/vKHX8_A55IM?si=357_Xc1z-eaWDPJI @potent arrow

"Porsche Sales Saskatchewan, selling all the Porsches you would Saskatchewant!"

"Leave your name, number, and go fuck yourself."

idk

I still think the RS version of the Spyder defeats the point of the Spyder, the Spyder already had GT3 suspension and the best non RS flat 6

no manual in the RS

costs way way way more, and it completely replaced the non RS Spyder

tbf, the fucking RS engine is INSANE sounding with a convertible top, it makes perfect sense why they would do this

its an unrivaled experience

oh the gearing on the PDK is short short goddamn

45mph in 1st compared to the 65mph in 1st gear for the manual...

ok maybe this is the better car

[sly elk]

"if we thought you deserved this car we'd have called you already, it's sold out. Go buy a mustang or something you peon."

[paper tusk]

starting to regret my thoughts of an intel upgrade

[odd sand]

Woops

[odd sand]

AMD boards are even more expensive sadly. Prices are 2-3x since covid

[paper tusk]

AMD version of same board (pro X870) is cheaper ($240)

it has one less m2 slot though

tomahawk is same difference expansions wise and about the same price

full specs aren't out so I don't know what limitations are on the intel boards

[sharp star]

https://fxtwitter.com/LisaSu/status/1844177746567872740

[wraith agate]

AI mentioned

[sly elk]

yeaa i was gonna say

just don't waste money on an asus board and you'll be fine

asus charging a premium... for what?! armory crate? Their award winning customer service?

Their REPUBLIC OF GAMERS branding?

if you want your bios glaring at you every time you turn your computer on 😄

[wraith agate]

I wanted PC with even less colors than it already has and mine really only has like 2 RGB lights

[hazy frost]

They don’t have much but their high end products do look nice tbh

Shame they’re also absolutely terrible now

[sly elk]

the products are fine, just not worth the premium to me

[paper tusk]

yeah I'm pretty much set on a msi board unless asrock really gets my attention (even then I'm not sure about arrow lake yet compared to 9xxxX3D)

[sly elk]

with x870e, the msi options are like, straight up my alley in expectations 😄

i think the aorus boards have better pricing

[paper tusk]

my budget is dropping like a rock so probably will go with a x670e gaming plus (and upgrade the shitty wifi)

[sly elk]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145515

speaking personally LOL

i think it's sad it only has 2 usb-c ports

[paper tusk]

the memory kit I want is on the compatibility list (teamgroup 48gb 6400) so good enough for me

[sly elk]

but it has a 7 segment debug screen

and a white pcb

the x870e carbon, for $160 more you just get 2 more usb-c ports that can do displayport alt mode (maybe the other can, too?) and another nic lol

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-14913933

[paper tusk]

if I up my budget I'll probably just go with a x870 tomahawk and skip intel wifi ($19 monies)

[sly elk]

i forgot what x870e offers over x870

[paper tusk]

maxing that out nerfs the usb 4 ports though because they share pci express lanes

[sly elk]

but it's a $50 difference

between the x870 tomahawk and the x870e aorus ice

and there's a x870e aorus board for 319, so $30 difference instead

worth keeping in mind if you're interested... and yea

icehunter was talking about that a few weeks ago

on x670e you... have more pcie lanes 😄

since they're not eaten up by the usb4 controller

[hazy frost]

X670e will probably be the best value board in general or maybe B650E if u don’t need all the connectivity of the x670

They’ll be way cheaper than any x870

U can pick up an x670e for $190 rn

And a half decent one

[sly elk]

yup

i use an x670e carbon and am pretty happy with it... although overclocking 4x16 makes it take forever to boot. we've had that discussion before xD

[paper tusk]

Intel confirms that the Core Ultra 200S series will launch on October 24th.

saved the bullshit of intel's presser

since vidcards broke embargo https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200s-arrow-lake-s-desktop-processors-announced-lion-cove-skymont-xe-lpg-npu-and-lga-1851

[hazy frost]

I’m not sure a better motherboard will help with the memory tbh

[sly elk]

yea it's whatever lol

when i saw the x870e godlike having 6 usb-c ports i was like I WANT ONE

but then I was like i'm not spending all that $$ LMAO

[hazy frost]

Long relative to now is still objectively pretty quick anyway

We’re just impatient

[sly elk]

no when i oc the memory it takes like 2-3 minutes lmao

[hazy frost]

I mean that’s still fast

2-3 minutes is whatever

[sly elk]

although lately something's wonky and it sometimes takes 2-3 minutes even without memory oc

but it's not the memory

[hazy frost]

Assuming u turn it on once maybe twice a day

[sly elk]

i think it might be something on my gpu failing 😄

which I totally expect

evga 3080ti ftw3

I am convinced evga is the ford of GPUs

[hazy frost]

My boot times are 30s on the x670e running stock expo settings lol

The longest it’s taken is one minute

[sly elk]

because you literally could not mention evga on reddit without getting a half dozen people telling you how awesome their customer service was when their gpu died 😄

[hazy frost]

lol

[sly elk]

because you're smart and using 2 sticks?

i'm a dumbass and insisted on 4

[hazy frost]

Evga products weren’t all that anyway

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-12671304431198862809

[hazy frost]

The customer service was only decent in NA

And even then people complained sometimes

[hazy frost]

Yeah and yet I’m still sat here for a whole ass minute waiting

Tbf 4 sticks is fine at lower speeds as well

I just don’t need 64GB rn anyway

[sly elk]

the 4stick expo works fine, just takes a while to boot

or rather, to post. booting is fast

the longest part of booting is me entering my password twice 😄

once for luks, once for my linux account

apparently there's a way to make it so you only the disk encryption password if you screw something up like in windows with bitlocker

but i am too lazy to make that happen

[hazy frost]

Intels memory controller isn’t amazing on ddr5 either

Tbf

Both are equally kind of shit

[sly elk]

yep

ddr5 was a mistake

[paper tusk]

yeah

[hazy frost]

And yet ddr6 is only a couple years away

Lmao

[sly elk]

like my real mistake was when I built my 2018 build

instead of going with the 9800k i should have gone with the 1700x or whatever ryzen it was

[paper tusk]

the sticks available smoke what the MMU can handle (with stability)

[sly elk]

theni could have updated to a 5800x3d without getting a new mobo

[hazy frost]

Who knew how good it would be

It was kind of ass back then anyway

[sly elk]

and the 9700k was shit

[hazy frost]

Until 3000 series CPUs

[sly elk]

i mean it was great for running a single game and doing literally nothing else

[hazy frost]

Not sure the 1700x would be better either

[sly elk]

iirc single core performance was faster on it than the 9900k

but

if you tried to do ANYTHING ELSE

like alt-tab out of a hungry game and try to type some shit in discord

[hazy frost]

I don’t regret switching from Intel now

[sly elk]

felt like a slideshow lmao

[hazy frost]

Last one I owned was a 6th gen i7

I don’t miss it

[sly elk]

yea i kinda don't care about intel vs amd but historically, amd chips do usually give you more pcie lanes...

20 vs 24 at the time anyway

[hazy frost]

It’s not like AMD had something better back then anyway lol

It was Intel or nothing

[sly elk]

20 feels so ridiculous

but amd x870e is getting there again

since you lose 4 of the 24 to the usb controller

[hazy frost]

The pricing is fun

[sly elk]

so you're left with 1 gpu and 1 pcie ssd

and then you get to make sacrifices

none of the current gpus support pcie 5.0 x8

honestly I have a bigger bone to pick with how archaic desktop GPUs are

[hazy frost]

4090 doesn’t even saturate PCIe 4 anyway

lol

[sly elk]

no thunderbolt/usb4 display support, no hdmi 2.x on nvidia

[hazy frost]

Most GPUs have 0 difference between 3 x16 and 4

[sly elk]

I think it kinda does?

like you can get a tiny performance gain going from x8 to x16

on a 4090

hell I think even a lowly 3080 will get you there?

there was some point in the 30 series where it seemed like you'd start getting a performance boost going x16

[hazy frost]

https://youtu.be/v2SuyiHs-O4?si=ni8CKknkWtpb4v37

[sly elk]

Remember that PCIe 3.0 x16 is equal to PCIe 4.0 x8, so if you're wondering if the RTX 4090 behaves differently on PCIe 4.0 x8 vs. x16, these two tests would answer that.

[hazy frost]

There’s not even that much between 3 and 4 sometimes

[sly elk]

oh maybe i was thinking about a 3080 maxing out pcie 3.0 x8 and actually having gains on x16

[hazy frost]

No 30 series card maxed out PCIe 3 x16 except maybe the 3090 I think

[sly elk]

you know what i wanna toy with

[hazy frost]

And then PCIe 4 is common anyway

[sly elk]

a pcie 1.0 powermac g5 😄

the very very last powermac g5 did have pcie

[hazy frost]

What actually does use PCIe 5 that’s useful tho

[sly elk]

and it was only x8 lol

idk

-gets out an apple silicon mac pro-

[hazy frost]

Nothing pretty much

[sly elk]

-makes funny gestures-

[hazy frost]

More lanes is nice tho

[sharp star]

Yeah there's not many applications for PCI-E 5.0 except for... NVMe drives?

[hazy frost]

The nvme drives are so expensive it’s insane

[sly elk]

look at all that empty space 😄

[hazy frost]

They’re not even much faster than the best 4.0 drives

[sly elk]

there's no ram cards because the ram is soldered onto the friggin cpu package

[sharp star]

Yeah people should be happy with 4.0 drives

Unless you need cutting edge tech which is almost never

[hazy frost]

U get like a 15% speed increase going to PCIe 5 drives

[sly elk]

no gpu because that's also part of the soc

[hazy frost]

For 150% more money

[sly elk]

like

theyshould have given the mac pro like 2 pcie slots and a ton of u.2 slots

maybe some cute xserve style u.2 bays

[lost python]

another day, another bunch of "leaks"

[royal forge]

Holy fucking shit

2.5k USD

For a fucking gpu

[lost python]

i dont believe its real, but at the same time, its nvidia: it might as well be real

[royal forge]

Ah wait. It's Moore's law

He's kinda full of shit

Iirc

Was it... amd gpu stuff prior to 4000 series?

Or smthng after

And he was goin off about how AMD would blow nvidia out of the water

Higher specs or some bollocks

[lost python]

[royal forge]

He was goin on about how he's in the

industry

Or something

Been a few years so im rusty

[hazy frost]

In fairness the 4090 sold for close to that sometimes

It’s bc of the stupid premium brands having a $500 markup for cards like asus

[royal forge]

oh im fully expecting the prices to be around there

[hazy frost]

Like rn there’s 4090s for $1700-1800 so normal and then theres asus ones for over $2000

[royal forge]

it still galls me that it has gotten to that point

[hazy frost]

The problem is they went from titan cards that aren’t meant for gaming and priced as they should be for that and then made the xx90 cards which replace them but are marketed for games so it looks worse

The highest tier that anyone needs to gaming is the 4080 or 7900xtx anyway

[celest violet]

Also lack of competition creates that price for the rtx 5000 series. AMD not trying to compete as hard in the top end this gen means that nvidia can charge a premium for what you can't get elsewhere

Tbf, 32gbs of vram is crazy

Truly a shame cause the radeon rx 6000s and 7000s were genuinely some good series of cards

[delicate robin]

Im getting an amd card. they're way f-ing cheaper

my 3060 is perfect for like 99% of my needs. but I want to be able to play 4k

[celest violet]

I like high frame rate, so 4k feels impossible with a part time job 😭

Can't afford that hardware

[delicate robin]

same!

I work 4 hours a week

:/

[hazy frost]

Yeah it literally is just meant for workstation stuff and not gaming lmao

It is impressive they managed to make people think buying it is a good idea for gaming

The rebranding went crazy

[hazy frost]

7000

The pricing was awful initially

[celest violet]

Well I don't think it was that impressive, nvidia is like apple, the die hard fans will believe anything

[hazy frost]

Some still are (7600xt)

[celest violet]

Yeah the pricing is what screwed them. The stability and performance of the 7000 series was great tho

And the 7900gre is pretty good power per dollar

[hazy frost]

There have been a few driver issues but they’re resolved semi quickly

[hazy frost]

Yeah both Nvidia and AMD released the best cards at the end of the generation lol

Super GPUs and the 7900gre are the best value ones this gen

The 7900xtx launching at $1000 was kind of crazy

[celest violet]

I just need to graduate so I can get a real job and afford top end hardware

[hazy frost]

What was even worse is the 7900xt released at $900

They were trying to upsell to the xtx

And the 4070ti competing with the 7900xt was $800 even

[hazy frost]

There’s a point of diminishing returns for high end stuff anyway

[celest violet]

True, but I also like to be the toxic guy in my friend group that shits on people cause I make worse financial decisions

[hazy frost]

lol

I have a problem that I have the ability to spend more than most of my friends which makes them make fun of me for spending so much lol

Opposite issue

[celest violet]

I have the 7900gre rn tho and it's phenomenal. Just a shame that my windows install is kinda fucked rn and is handicapping me

[hazy frost]

Bc none of them have finished their degrees yet

[hazy frost]

Yeah there’s nothing rly to upgrade from if u have it rn

And there might not be next gen anyway bc AMD isn’t doing any high end cards

Used 4090 is gonna be the play fr

[celest violet]

Yeah most of my hours rn are in ff14, old fromsoft games, and cheap multiplayer games so I don't need better hw anyway

[hazy frost]

I bought my gpu mostly to play cyberpunk on max settings

There wasn’t much other consideration

[celest violet]

I'm gonna play ff16, and eventually rebirth when it comes around so the hw will pay off.