Yeah switching from pixel 3a to a15 wasnt difficult, I think for older people, just UI and they might need to learn a new look, but my mom was fine with it
#technology-discussion
outer sand
Cause newer phone has much bigger screen, easier for their eyes too
I was surprised that even 'budget' phone like a15 has 50mp and 6.5 inch screen..
real edge
still expensive but
budgets still up in the air as she will go around asking for help
so budget might baloon
outer sand
Phone camera might be expensive, but it's quite handy if you live in a country where it's illegal to even carry 9mm, fast accessible good camera is useful against insurance, law and liars
50mp is more than enough, I'm not sure about a35 myself
real edge
not many youtubers have reviewed it
outer sand
Oh yeah that might be the 8/256 alternative in your country
golden stream
ya bc not much many peep would by budget samsung phones
outer sand
Same question 👀
golden stream
apparently budget samsung phones = similar price for midend of some others like Xiaomi, Redmi, Huawei or whatever
it isn't bad but ye better avoid some 4GB or 6GB memory phones
my work phone is a budget android and HELL it is SLOW
real edge
my 2017 phone has like 6gb ram lol
golden stream
from the one who use like Note10+ tho
outer sand
my work phone is a budget android and HELL it is SLOW
What's your work phone spec? Is it samsung?
golden stream
if u have any samsung experience store or booth, better try it hand-on
golden stream
What's your work phone spec? Is it samsung?
ye
lemme recall the spec
A line for sure btw
real edge
how many years do samsung support their phones with security patches?
golden stream
not really bashing samsung budget line, just beware in choosing some
eh lemme see
my Note10+ still has security patches here and there
outer sand
how many years do samsung support their phones with security patches?
All I know now, the new one like a15 and 55 has 5 years
Hence why I bought them
golden stream
I also have another A8 from 2018-ish and it's actually quite decent, more than my work phone 
outer sand
Tbh I'm still sceptical with xiaomi, Huawei, oppo
outer sand
I need that official security support from android haha
golden stream
aye
real edge
samsung says 4-5 here
outer sand
Hmm really, the new one? Ic ic
golden stream
outer sand
Why I was told google also got 5 years at that time lol
outer sand
Yeah this is the line up I bought, a15 and a55 5g
golden stream
ok I remembered
my work phone is an A15 2022 or 2021 iirc
outer sand
Oh well, but none of the newer pixel phone has 3.5mm jack that I need for my backing track, also I got a lot of clash when I about to buy pixel 8 pro when I asked here, overheating problem etc
golden stream
that is also the issue of newer phones ye
at least I have the DSP USB-C cable so no issue to me
outer sand
Pixel 8a is the budget version yeah? Dam $700 aud here lmao
Like 250% price of my a15 5g..
outer sand
460 euro is 760 aud haha
I think I started to understand my thought process back then why I made the move from pixel to samsung lol
real edge
does the google pixel have problems?
outer sand
Washing machine
I Forgot to take it off my pants after work
Was pixel 3a from 2019 I think
I needed a new phone fast, haha. Was told by the clerk samsung and pixel has the same software support now ( 5 years ), so I just pick something that's closest to pixel 3a in terms of spec
Hence why I got a15 5g 4gb/128, was satisfied with the performance after 2 months ; just decided to buy another a15 and a55, but better spec than mine for my parents cause they have been using galaxy notes from 2013 and 2015.
outer sand
does the google pixel have problems?
I think I misunderstood the question, based on my research overheating and lag problem, but no 3.5mm jack was the one that didn't satisfy me
A lot of people seems complained about recent pixel performance especially after pixel 6 ish, but I have no real experience, just googling from forum
paper tusk
A lot of people seems complained about recent pixel performance especially after...
my 7 pro is fine but I don't work it too hard. I know the cpu isn't exactly top of the line compared to snapdragon 8 but my previous phone also ran hot (and that had a SD in it)
hazy frost
Pretty much every new phone runs hot
Although I’d rather have the SD run hot with twice the performance than have the tensor run hot and struggle to run some stuff anyway
Google’s processor should get much better next gen tho
They’re going to TSMC for the new ones and should start to actually catch up
real edge
Google’s processor should get much better next gen tho
with the pixel 10?
hazy frost
Allegedly yes
Tensor 5 is gonna be TSMC 3nm
I mean whatever Qualcomm makes is still probably going to be better
But rn the A16 and A17 as well as SD gen 2 is almost twice as fast as the tensor in the pixel 8 and 9
So anything will look good
Although it’ll probably only be worth switching when pixel 11 is out bc there’ll be issues with the 10 guaranteed if they switch lol
SD gen 2 is on par with the A16 and the A17 pro is better
I thought it was better than that but ig not
hard drift
<:leadersteve:363150628643667969>
Have you ever pre-ordered an iPhone?
When do they start shipping?
hard drift
dont worry about it
As long as I receive it on the launch day 😭
hazy frost
Yeah u gonna be waiting
It’s basically impossible to get one on launch day even if u order early
hard drift
It’s basically impossible to get one on launch day even if u order early
Even for pre-order?
That’s dumb
hazy frost
Yeah
deep sapphire
no point in pre ordering they always have more than enough lmao
hazy frost
Pre order just means you won’t get it a month later you’ll get it a week later lol
deep sapphire
you could just walk into t mobile and ask for one on launch day
hard drift
no point in pre ordering they always have more than enough lmao
I don’t really have time to go to a store to get one
I would have to hop onto the metro to go to an Apple Store and our T-Mobile is trash
hard drift
you work in a mall
There’s not an Apple Store in our mall
Oh well, we shall see how late I get my phone then
deep sapphire
There’s not an Apple Store in our mall
you just go to your provider
I pre ordered mine through t mobile
they got it to me
day one
hard drift
I pre ordered mine through t mobile
Like I said I would, but our store is trash
They constantly have alarms going off because of people taking devices and what not
deep sapphire
hard drift
That’s why I ordered through Apple
deep sapphire
it aint worth the risk fuckin porch pirates and shit
people cant be asked to not steal what isnt yours
too difficult
hard drift
people cant be asked to not steal what isnt yours
Well with my mom being at home right now because of her injury, there’s at least someone to watch it and my brother works mornings so he can watch afternoon while I watch mornings
deep sapphire
Well with my mom being at home right now because of her injury, there’s at least...
nah someone gonna steal it
too late though already pre ordered it...
hard drift
nah someone gonna steal it
No no no
In all honesty, package left has gone way down in our area now that they finally monitor a bunch of the buildings
deep sapphire
In all honesty, package left has gone way down in our area now that they finally...
sure buddy
whatever helps you sleep at night
hard drift
Last porch pirate had his face and apartment number posted on every wall lmao
deep sapphire
📫 
hard drift
People kept fucking with him
hard drift
😭 you are gonna steal it aren’t you
modest moss
oh god it'd be so funny if bido's phone gets nicked
hard drift
oh god it'd be so funny if bido's phone gets nicked
WHAT
hard drift
That would not be funny 😭
modest moss
a bear needs a phone
deep sapphire
https://tenor.com/view/stealing-theif-steal-this-mine-ill-take-this-gif-15488563
box says chewy and the bear chewed into it
modest moss
nom
hazy frost
gone in a SECOND
Insane how that happens so much in the US
No one ever has stuff stolen round here
deep sapphire
yeah its bullshit
modest moss
man, my daughter uses a mental health app called Finch where you have this cute penguin and pets and stuff, and she made me install it to unlock an extra pet
hard drift
Insane how that happens so much in the US
It’s because criminals aren’t punished hard enough 🔫
modest moss
this thing is actually great
deep sapphire
you cant do much about it cause entrapment is illegal so you cant just like sit there and then shoot a paintball gun at them
hazy frost
Rough
hard drift
you cant do much about it cause entrapment is illegal so you cant just like sit ...
Try and stop me 
modest moss
daily goals and stuff, breathing exercises
hazy frost
The only time that happened here is someone pulled up in a van and stole my old car battery I left in the driveway
I was like
hard drift
Lmao
hazy frost
Ok sure have it it doesn’t work lmao
Imagine risking criminal charges for a car battery
modest moss
they might even have thought you left it out to be taken for scrap
hazy frost
It was at the back of my driveway next to the house and I live in a culdesac out of the way
They were looking around for more stuff and checking if anyone was home so they could get away with it
Atl nothing else was outside
Only happened once in the last 8 years so not bad
deep sapphire
I always bring the old battery back cause they make you pay a core charge/recycling fee when you buy a new one
hazy frost
It’s a bit harder to go around just looking for smth to steal here compared to what I see US streets look like anyway
deep sapphire
just change it out in the parking lot of the store lol
hard drift
It’s a bit harder to go around just looking for smth to steal here compared to w...
Yeah it’s super bad here 
deep sapphire
Yeah it’s super bad here <a:pensivewobble:620416696083021837>
so hows that pre order going
did you finalize it?
hazy frost
That’s what u get for having the suburban wasteland of the United States
deep sapphire
hard drift
so hows that pre order going
It has been finalized since day one
deep sapphire
the suburbs are great my packages dont get stolen out here
hazy frost
U can’t even see my house from the main road
U have to drive all the way to the end of the road to see it
Stuff gets left behind the bins all the time for like 5 hours
deep sapphire
It has been finalized since day one
so whats your address so I can make sure nobody takes your shiny new iPhone
hazy frost
Lmao
hazy frost
I got mine delivered from Apple but I had to sign for it anyway so I had to be home
hazy frost
Do u not have to sign for high value packages in the US
hard drift
Sometimes
hazy frost
Any order over like £100 from a lot of sites wants someone to sign
Or items of a certain size
hard drift
I have had fedex drivers sign for my package and drive away before
hazy frost
Lmao
hard drift
The US is whack
hard drift
The usually do here
hazy frost
They give u about 30 seconds to open the door and sign before they just drive off
hard drift
But every now and then you get a bad actor
deep sapphire
Do u not have to sign for high value packages in the US
usually unless amazon delivers it LOL
you probably do require a signature its just the drivers dont give a shit
put in note "do not deliver here, bring it to office" they stilll throw it at the door and leave
hazy frost
Lmao
hard drift
put in note "do not deliver here, bring it to office" they stilll throw it at th...
too true
hazy frost
Most of them aren’t that bad here
hard drift
Lucky
hazy frost
Amazon always asking signature for the most random orders
Like idk what the criteria even is
I’ve done £100 orders they didn’t ask and a £60 item where they did
hard drift
Yeah i think it’s dependent on seller
dire viper
Most packages aren’t marked as high value
For UPS you have to input the value of the item for that to happen and then it costs more to ship depending on what it is
sly elk
The funniest thing I ever experienced
Was the FedEx dude walking up to me and handing me a sorry we missed you sticker
It was because the package wasn’t on his truck
USPS does that in their tracking too sometimes like it’ll say I wasn’t home but they just didn’t have the package or couldn’t find it in their pile of shit
Though lately usps also did another one that made me go WTF
Where they marked something as delivered
Didn’t deliver it until the next day
subtle monolith
is it okay to ask about some pc builds in here? I have two builds I think that would be good for running ffxiv since my current build is uhhhh...... old and decrepit.
hazy frost
What are they
subtle monolith
higher end: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLpsdH
err midtier i think?: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VGDGyg
hazy frost
higher end: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLpsdH
err midtier i think?: https://p...
I wouldn’t buy a 7800x3d just for FFXIV
And with a 7800xt it’s not worth it
kind rune
The 7800x3d might be the most future proofed cpu right now
hazy frost
Yeah doesn’t mean u need it
Future proofing is how u waste money
Don’t need it rn? Don’t buy it
The only things actually worth spending more on are a decent psu and a good am5 motherboard since it’ll last through every generation until they stop support
odd sand
That depends on how much the futureproofing will cost over other options and how much extra time it buys you
hazy frost
I’d get this
And then change it for a 7800x3d if u had to
But the 7600 is enough for that still
Asrock board is cheaper and has some of the best thermal results out of all the b650 boards I’ve seen tested without spending over $180
kind rune
Microatx motherboard in atx case 
kind rune
I see mine all the time 
hazy frost
I rarely see mine despite having an ATX one
If u had to go ATX I’d get the PG lightning
Worse VRMs but still good while being cheap
Pro RS and PG lightning and Riptide are the best ones below $200
Comes with both mATX that costs less and ATX boards
dire viper
Lmao
deep sapphire
mmmmboxy vehicle
pine thistle
Man, Crowdstrike gave them a spook, huh
Can't really blame them considering how many people blamed MS for the outage
deep sapphire
hazy frost
(Also they aren’t failing so badly u can’t get a replacement)
The lesser of two evils
dire viper
https://youtu.be/W7qH11KtHuc?si=HhqGXuaSGh33PsOD god this thing looks so good
sly elk
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Abysmal-Zen-5-sales-allegedly-result-in-the-worst-...
i expect the desktop pc market is really lousy too atm
hard drift
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Abysmal-Zen-5-sales-allegedly-result-in-the-worst-...
bulldozer my beloved 😭
deep sapphire
proven oyster
So here to gently nudge the smarties
I have a laptop, with a monitor plugged in
I have set things now where, Laptop is Main display, and 2nd Display is for Borderless windowed games
But say, for FFXIV
I made it windowed it, grabbed and tossed it to 2nd display, and made it bordeless
This seems to work fine.
...But is this right? Could there be technical notes or something or nah?
like GeForce is on main display, FFXIV setting is on "Main Display 1" still, so brainis curious if this is potentially problematic or not really.
Things work fine, but...
golden stream
borderless is still windows btw
also it'll be easier to toss around displays/workspace tho
proven oyster
Ah?
golden stream
yeah
proven oyster
...Your words confuse me a bit, sorry
Like right now, it do be:
Display 1, Laptop, Discord and Browser
Display 2, FFXIV Windowed/Borderless windowed
The curiosity is, if i did something "Potentially bad" without knowing
Because in spite of FFXIV being on display 2
A lot of things 'think' its still on 1
golden stream
ok so
windows 11 allows you having a thing called Desktop
you can assign within w11 that the second screen (Display 1) displays the Desktop 2 while your main screen (Display 0) displays the stuff on Desktop 1
need alt-tab occasionally iirc
I've been doing it on both linux and windows, no issue
it may break occasionally though but that was on linux as I tested so far and it was been a while, I was on Lutris XIV, no crash so far in current build, and it may be even fewer on windows
proven oyster
...OKAY SO ALL IS FINE ;D
golden stream
yeah
proven oyster
okysorry, just i know PCs can be fickle
And i was worried if like, i mayhaps "cost performance" by doing it in a non proper way
golden stream
yeah it does
it may cost performance a bit but that's more of windows stuff
and I assume that your display port is outputted by the nvidia GPU
proven oyster
So dis be fine
And me dragging FFXIV into 2nd window, but GeForce still on Monitor 1 is fine
Thats just weird shenanigans
golden stream
oh nah the nvidia gpu should output BOTH monitors
proven oyster
and I assume that your display port is outputted by the nvidia GPU
From what i seen, yeah.
Laptop, has its own innate GPU but uses solely the Nvidia for display
proven oyster
oh nah the nvidia gpu *should* output BOTH monitors
I mean less the GPU,. more the...
ALT Z thingie
GeForce Experience
proven oyster
I recall just one of those had this
Weird feel of you having to go to a sketchy ish feeling site
golden stream
oh ye
hwinfo site does look sketchy but then just the owner not mind having a pretty website
proven oyster
Which one would you suggest?
golden stream
hwinfo and msi afterburner
proven oyster
Both?
golden stream
yup
proven oyster
Well, right
...Where download? ;D
And i ask this Solely because i feel worried i'd accidentally get a virus
golden stream
okay lemme get u the URLs
proven oyster
Thanksorry
proven oyster
yeh, even the Afterburner site says
I just vividly recall i tried to google it once
And SOMETHING about the sites it gave me, felt weird ;D
golden stream
ohhh yeah, because the creator of that software had issue in payment, and the big event after that, and a lot of fake websites allowing downloading malwares
you can use the beta build for msi afterburner or the stable one, doesn't matter tho
proven oyster
What the difference of the two?
proven oyster
Now that i got both isntalled, this is my last wonder cus Afterburner is confusing me a lil
I wanna use one of these tools, to help me determine the weight of performance and graphical settings
Which of the two is better for that? ;D
golden stream
hwinfo
for render latecy idk which tool is best
but both are nice for thermal
iirc msi afterburner does have overlay but I haven't test yet
proven oyster
And as i now testing things, someone tossing GPUZ my way, and i am funnily now noticing:
Man, Tuliyollal ghosting
sharp star
I should try to find a way to ship an Antec Flux Pro over here
it’s not available locally
https://youtu.be/IqLyqUdQNcg
kinda surprised that there’s so few reviews of this case, especially since everyone’s raving about Antec returning from obscurity
proven oyster
What was the deal with FFXIV and DLSS
paper tusk
se did bare minimum to add it in as an upscaling option so it's really bad
it's also an old version
paper tusk
fsr is kinda same difference but might have better results
especially with it set to 99% scale
sharp star
You can fix DLSS on your own but that requires modding the game's files
Thankfully the current version of that mod is drag and drop
paper tusk
(but not less than 90%)
proven oyster
I mostly set up the GeForce Shaders stuff
So now i can SEE
Which is a soft hum if worth to dig out the DLSS
sharp star
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasy14/mods/2196 the mod in question
you can have it use DLAA instead if needed
wraith agate
oh lemme check it
hmm well that might break my gshade so I'm gonna not try it for now
sharp star
https://www.reuters.com/technology/how-intel-lost-sony-playstation-business-2024-09-16/
Intel bros...
deep sapphire
Everyone knows they went with AMD** is because they licensed it for next to nothing and both Sony and Microsoft got to negotiate dirt cheap contracts
It’s why MS went to AMD/ATI back on the 360 both Intel and nvidia wanted tray pricing which was too expensive
sharp star
Yeah Nvidia didn’t have any console chips between the PS3 and the Switch afaik
deep sapphire
Nope and they are a notoriously shitty company to work with
sharp star
Mhmmmm
glossy ravine
InteL bros
hazy frost
Everyone knows they went with AMD** is because they licensed it for next to noth...
AMDs stuff for console/handheld gaming is just also really good atm
hazy frost
Yeah Nvidia didn’t have any console chips between the PS3 and the Switch afaik
They’re doing another one for switch 2 aren’t they
deep sapphire
sharp star
Arc > Intel
odd sand
I dunno if I would call what the Switch uses a "console chip" either. Nintendo merely paid for a custom spec of an existing Nvidia mobile chipset.
hazy frost
Insane to pay so much for those
potent arrow
did you get more??
ah lmao
the two you gave me are working overtime lmao
the casing on one is melted .-.
sly elk
I dunno if I would call what the Switch uses a "console chip" either. Nintendo m...
the tegra?
man the switch is really ancient LOL
I remember when it came out, $299 seemed fair for what it was
now you've got stuff like the steam deck that can run circles around it for the same price
eh but I'll give them credit, it still has a lot going on for that $300
all those doohickeys and the controllers coming off
and they are complicated little controllers
of all the tech things, not the worst thing to spend $300 on even if the cpu/gpu are ancient
i feel funny saying that because I've roasted the shit out of nintendo and the switch before lol
but I adore how it still excels at an offline experience. You can buy a switch and some game cartridges and never connect it to the internet and everything just works like game consoles used to back in the day.
Compared to the PS5 it's a fucking joy to use
dire viper
This is about the literacy of most tech “enthusiasts” (including myself lmao)
I don’t have the brain power to learn ever fucking variant of Chevy small block V8 let alone every goddamn Ryzen branded product
sly elk
lol
thats how i feel about mobile intel chips
and tbh mobile ryzen chips unless I were buying a laptop
intel mobile chips piss me off
deep sapphire
I don’t have the brain power to learn ever fucking variant of Chevy small block ...
he doesn’t know the 327
sly elk
get out that Lenovo Yoga TurdBook Pro witth the new Intel 7592HQ
deep sapphire
jk
sly elk
the new Lenovo Kashi GoLean LEGION gaming laptop
you know why i love apple laptops
cuz aside from that moment where they went stupid and did the touchbar thing
it's just a basic ass laptop that doesn't do anything other than be a laptop
dire viper
>he doesn’t know the 327
I know 340 and 302 😄
dire viper
I want a 340 Six Pack T/A Challenger
sly elk
no folding backwards, no folding giant screen
and you know what, FUCK ALL THAT BULLSHIT
give me the same fucking shit a laptop came with in 2005
thank you apple for keeping laptops normal
dire viper
Trans Am was 302 blocks only so the road version actually was upstroked
sly elk
I don't even care that they soldered the ssd and ram onto the board
sly elk
Trans Am was 302 blocks only so the road version actually was upstroked
you're getting me here
I want the corniest fucking american car ever
screaming chicken on the hood
bronze wheels
CB radio inthe dash
sly elk
at least dodge understood their customers with the charger/challenger LOL
car snobs be like "oh it can't corner worth a shit, it's rubbish"
dodge be like "BUT ITS LIME GREEN AND HAS BEE DECALS"
customers be like OMG GIVE ME 10
deep sapphire
One bone I have to pick with dodge is pick a damn logo and stick with it
sly elk
YES
deep sapphire
I still don’t get why they made RAM its own brand
sly elk
the whole rest of the world wants to split dodge/jeep/chrysler off from stellantis just because fuck stellatnsi
deep sapphire
Literally everyone I know still calls them a dodge lmao
sly elk
fleet mpg i think
deep sapphire
Oh fair
deep sapphire
They should just use the old pentastar logo and call it a day
It’s simple, it’s clean
It works
sly elk
ignoring the wing for a sec
i liked the ribbon logo (their original logo!)
because what it symbolizes is just cute lol
deep sapphire
The 00s ram logo was probably their best but yeah obviously that’s only on the trucks now
sly elk
the chrysler ribbon logo == "blue ribbon award at the state fair"
that was all they were going for lmao
deep sapphire
I love how they used some shield logo and then now it’s 2 lines like tire marks or something like dodge please
dire viper
It’s going to be upscale EV’s soon so maybe we’ll get a cool new logo
sly elk
Idk I think Chrysler doesn’t know what it is anymore
they don't and it's painful
dire viper
They intend to fully rebrand
sly elk
nono the stellantis messaging up till now anyway has been
that chrysler is a "mainstream brand"
they insist it's not a luxury brand
dire viper
Yea and what’s mainstream
sly elk
you know why, right?
dire viper
Luxury EV’s
sly elk
can't have something compete with Maserati and Alfa Romeo
dire viper
Average age of a new car buyer is 58
sly elk
let me be ceo so I can nuke those two brands
deep sapphire
sly elk
bwahhaha
deep sapphire
This was their best logo IMO
sly elk
put the ferrari engine in a chrysler firepower
dire viper
That’s the Ramcharger era logo isn’t it
sly elk
i never liked that logo but
i can't say anything else they've come up with was any better
deep sapphire
Haha
sly elk
that and the porno DODGE logo LOL
idk why but that DODGE writing always lookedl ike it belonged on the cover of a porno vhs
deep sapphire
Which one is that
sly elk
the dodge writing on that ram image
my favorite thing about that badge was the other things that dodge stuck on it for the viper
like the snake head
they could've done a superbee one with the bee instead of the ram head
it would've been great lol
also what chrysler needs
is a new pt cruiser
dire viper
They do have a super bee logo
sly elk
They do have a super bee logo
yea i know and it's adorable
dire viper
My grandmas brother has two super bees and a new lady call super bee
sly elk
lol
dire viper
I would say the Coronet was peak old dodge
dire viper
Other than the aero body T/A cars
sly elk
they need to make a trans am
and a firebird
and if they don't they're just a bunch of pendejos
motherfuckers don't know how to run a fucking car company sheesh
dire viper
This makes me feel something
deep sapphire
pontiac lost its identity and they were just the teenager first car brand near the end lmao
sly elk
the "my dad threatened to kick me out of the house if I bought a toyota" brand
dire viper
RWD small coupe with an aluminum block LS from factory?
sly elk
the grand prix was a cool car
for a large midsize fwd commuter box
it was cooler than anything else, fight me
deep sapphire
bro I dated a girl that told me cause her grandpa was in WWII they werent allowed to own any japanese vehicles
I was like 
dire viper
Lmao
sly elk
bro I dated a girl that told me cause her grandpa was in WWII they werent allowe...
my dad was like that too
my oldest bro used to tease him about buying a toyota
and my dad would be like
IF YOU BUY A TOYOTA YOU PARK IT IN THE STREET
deep sapphire
hahahaha
dire viper
Toyota 2000GT not allowed
sly elk
ONLY AMERICAN CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY
i won't lie
I have a slight bias towards american cars LOL
dire viper
I want a 240Z so bad
sly elk
the hard part is finding an american car that is actualyl american
dire viper
Or a Datsun GT-R/432 Fairlady
sly elk
they tend to be made in mexico or sometimes canada
dire viper
432 Fairlady would be so awesome
deep sapphire
well, speaking for GM
they have been in Canada almost as long as they have been in the US
sly elk
in fact the 2 300s and the cadillac were all built in canada :3
sly elk
which is fine? I like them
dire viper
It’s a 240Z with the GT-R’s engine in it from factory, cost more than a fuckin 911S new lmao
deep sapphire
most of the trucks are still made in either Flint or Oshawa
sly elk
lol
dire viper
And a 911S was like 6500 bucks in the 70’s?
dire viper
Lmao yea
sly elk
shit starts ta like 140k now?
deep sapphire
It’s a 240Z with the GT-R’s engine in it from factory, cost more than a fuckin 9...
my buddy demitri owned a 1984 300ZX
sly elk
like
deep sapphire
the gauge cluster was badass
dire viper
Top trim Plymouth Cuda or Challenger was as much as a 911S
sly elk
do you know what the payment on a 100k loan is like X_X
that's like fucking mortgage money
dire viper
But like fully fully specced out
sly elk
the crazy part
sly elk
there are like
people making my salary that have that big a car loan probably x_X
i would like something fun to drive and fun to look at tbh
but I don't wanna trade my jeep and that means
get to pay 3rd car insurance X_X
sly elk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71uftz8-zJw
hmmm
that one comes with the talking record player thingy at least
deep sapphire
dire viper
Triple carbs on an i6 that revved to 7000 would have been crazy in a skyline or Z
sly elk
fuck it. chrysler should lean into the retro fad and bring back the talking car thing
hehehe
dire viper
The S20 is an insane engine
sly elk
like with the 80s retro voice
i do like that with EVs the column shifter is back
even if it's stupid
deep sapphire
"thank you"
sly elk
yes! it thanks you!
I would make it escalate though
like
"please put on your seatbelt"
"... please put on your seatbelt"
"Damnit jackass you've driven for 6 miles. Please put on your seatbelt"
"Welcome Hank, are you going to put your seatbelt on this time?"
deep sapphire
LMAO
sly elk
also Dodges should come with a TOP SCORE page when you turn them on
-gets sued by the NHTSA 3 days after launching said new dodge-
sly elk
-gps unit comes with high score rank for every city block-
so it shows
speed limit, your speed, highest recorded speed on that street
most popular intersections for sideshows
deep sapphire
these were good looking trucks, too bad they used cheap thin sheet metal so they all rotted out up here in the north lol
deep sapphire
🤣
back when people said you were buying a cummins engine with a shitty truck around it
sly elk
so now i've been sitting here tlaking about what chrysler and gm need to do (gm needs to bring back the like a rock commercials)
ford needs to do 1 thing
just 1 thing
that stupid keypad. standard. all models.
fire the asshole who decided to discontinue it.
sly elk
like the biggest threat to ford customer loyalty is that fucking keypad
the ceo should be like the costco hot dog over that keypad
sly elk
and they seriously could just do nothing else
deep sapphire
TIE DOWNS!
sly elk
ford truck commercial: "look, we know GM and Ram make great pickups. But can they do this?!" -shows dude unlocking truck with keypad-
dire viper
The 6 series and 5 series back then had them, an engine that doesn’t make a lot of power in the M trims but M cars were test driven and developed by motorsports engineers so the cars only wake up at the very limit
sly elk
stellantis could solve almost all of their problems by just
cancelling all their car dealership franchises and partnering with carmax
jkjk
dire viper
BRINGING BACK BOB LUTZ AND MAKING ANOTHER VIPER
sly elk
but not really
sly elk
BRINGING BACK BOB LUTZ AND MAKING ANOTHER VIPER
YES
dire viper
Thank u bob lutz for making my two favorite things
sly elk
like
dire viper
BMW motorsports cars and Dodge Vipers and SRT’s
sly elk
i want people to look at the chrylser/dodge/jeep lineup and get pissed off
deep sapphire
dire viper
God that shit drives me insane, he was responsible for like the two coolest eras of performance vehicle
dire viper
Cause BMW M cars used to straight up have race car engines, the og M5 and M6 had race engines
sly elk
day #1 ceo of stellantis: discontinue white,silver,grey color options
only interesting car colors
dire viper
The 3.0CSL (Batman) had a race engine
Street car that looked like the race car version it’s so awesome
deep sapphire
older BMWs looked so much better than they do now
dire viper
Yea
It’s jus the last 3 years have been really bad
The base 3 series looks good
The M3 and M4 are ugly cause they’ve somehow required the car to have 8+ radiators?
Multiple coolant radiators, multiple oil, trans, etc
I would rather get an M340i than an M3 cause it’s the same engine in both cars, it’s just the one in the M340i is tunable way past the M3’s engine lmao
Both B58’s, it’s just the S58 version in the M3 is purpose built for its power output so it’s limited
M340i also looks nice
Car and drivers rating
sly elk
SHOCKING
I am kinda tired of people talking about EVs like they are the devil reincarnated though
as stupid as that truck is, it's not spectacularly larger or heavier than anything in that size?
same with their cars/suvs, they are heavier than a comparable vehicle I guess
but the difference really isn't that scandalous
a model 3/y weighs like 4000lbs and that's super average for a car these days
they're burning through tires for a few reasons: all that torque, apparently the default suspension settings are a little aggressive, and the cybertruck tires themselves are a shaved down version of a truck tire lmao
'for better fuel economy' I think?
I hate that about ev/hybrid tires!
the 'low rolling resistance' means they're crappier tires!!!
deep sapphire
im sure a lot of it has to do with people having a lead foot
obviously tires are gonna wear down fast when you stomp the accelerator lmao
hazy frost
a model 3/y weighs like 4000lbs and that's super average for a car these days
That’s not super average
Super average in America maybe
Anywhere else in the world not everyone is driving 4000lb cars
That’s SUV weight for a model 3 which is not an SUV
And the model Y is actually almost 4500lbs
Which is in fact heavy
I dotn think EVs should be demonised but I feel like people are also trying to pretend they don’t have issues they do to make up for it
sly elk
Super average in America maybe
I apologize, waffle.. I was indeed thinking us-centric here, because cars in the US are a different game entirely.
sly elk
yea TO BE FAIR that truck does a lot of things the cybertruck probably can't do safely lol
deep sapphire
the cybertruck isnt even sold outside of america anyway
sly elk
but also to be fair
deep sapphire
yea TO BE FAIR that truck does a lot of things the cybertruck probably can't do ...
work? 😏
sly elk
that 3500 is used to do things a peterbilt would do more safely 😄
like a lot of the time i see a 3500 it seems to be used for something they should've bought an old semi truck for
sly elk
How you wear down tires that fast
0-60 in 3 seconds, and a lead foot
hazy frost
I apologize, waffle.. I was indeed thinking us-centric here, because cars in the...
Crazy how 4000lb is average
2000kg daily drivers
sly elk
well put it this way
in my corner of the world (southern california), the most average car you could find would be a toyota rav4 or a honda cr-v
hazy frost
Most here are 1300-2000 MAX for dailies
deep sapphire
long boi
sly elk
they both weigh about 4klbs
hazy frost
A few people will have a stupid suv that weighs more but it’s uncommon
sly elk
A few people will have a stupid suv that weighs more but it’s uncommon
idk where you are, but I thought tiny suvs were super popular in europe now
hazy frost
they both weigh about 4klbs
The CRV and rav4 is like 3500
sly elk
thus ford killing the fiesta
sly elk
The CRV and rav4 is like 3500
nope
cold yacht
I like the ford focus tbh
hazy frost
idk where you are, but I thought tiny suvs were super popular in europe now
Yeah CUVs but like they’re only 1400kg still
The Ford puma is like under 1500
deep sapphire
I like the ford focus tbh
cold yacht
I’m bias for hatch backs
deep sapphire
in all fairness a lot of the weight comes from stricter safety requirements
sly elk
ok so
deep sapphire
you can go buy a 1989 honda civic that weighs 1900 lbs but you get into a wreck your ass is dying
just the simple fact
sly elk
you can go buy a 1989 honda civic that weighs 1900 lbs but you get into a wreck ...
yea I remember seeing car crashes in the 90s
they were ugly
hazy frost
4000lbs remains heavy
deep sapphire
a guy I know on facebook got into an accident in an early 90s civic that was an offset crash and the entire compartment was caved in
I literally dont know how he lived
sly elk
back when things like ford escorts and honda civics and chevy cavaliers were way more common out here
man
those things would get fucked up in 25mph intersection crashes
deep sapphire
yeah compact cars were not safe at all lol
hazy frost
Even new cars with safety requirements met can be 2.8-3k lbs
sly elk
Even new cars with safety requirements met can be 2.8-3k lbs
for sure
hazy frost
For normal size cars
sly elk
either way, I said that the crv/rav4 were common/average
hazy frost
Like Crossovers, larger hatchbacks, sedans etc
cold yacht
It’s Just market shifted to cross overs and suv
hazy frost
either way, I said that the crv/rav4 were _common/average_
3500lbs is closer to average than the 4000lb
An extra 250kg is a lot
sly elk
plenty of things like priuses and versas and such, too
but i think you'd see more like
toyota highlanders, than you would priuses
deep sapphire
I can almost bet you that weight is just more high strength steel put into B pillars and door frames
IIHS is now testing side impact crashes at 40 MPH instead of 25 MPH
sly elk
i like the camry
deep sapphire
that takes a lot more metal to withstand that kinda impact
deep sapphire
camry is considered a full size sedan, civic is midsize
hazy frost
And the newer Audi a3 is about 3000lbs I think
The base model A4 is under 3500 I think
The bmw 3 series is heavy as well
Actually all new BMWs are heavy
cold yacht
I just know I’m fucked in my car if I get hit in the side
cold yacht
Same
deep sapphire
I just know I’m fucked in my car if I get hit in the side
same
cold yacht
2500 lbs
hazy frost
Just don’t crash
cold yacht
03 Corolla
deep sapphire
exactly
cold yacht
I got into one accident with that thing
hazy frost
Mines 2014
It’ll be fine
The last time u could buy a car that wasn’t too heavy
Mid 2010s
cold yacht
I’ll probably get another Corolla if I get a new car
Bias cause it’s the first car I bought with my money
hazy frost
I’m probably buying something older when I can insure it lol
Can’t afford a more exciting car the same age as mine
cold yacht
I wish the Corolla hatchback hybrid was sold in the states
hazy frost
I forgot u can’t get that
cold yacht
There is also wagon variant
deep sapphire
@potent arrow
sly elk
IIHS is now testing side impact crashes at 40 MPH instead of 25 MPH
yea it's amazing
a head on 40mph crash fucks up a car
even the crash i had i must've been going around 30-35 at impact and I was looking at it in the impound lot thinking, man i'd hate to hit something on the freeway
hazy frost
How do they look at all similar
cold yacht
<@829359022288797726>
me when my ac went out
cold yacht
rn the issue with my car is a possible slow leak of my oil
sly elk
hauls the kids and the dog(s)
CHEW UP THE SEATS
then you pull up to the light
and the dog is on the owner's lap looking out the window
while the owner is trying to drive lmao
dire viper
I am kinda tired of people talking about EVs like they are the devil reincarnate...
The main issue is that EV companies (literally just TESLA) target people who like environmentalism but are lazy about being proactive and market their cars as an easy way of saving the environment even if they’re nothing close to that
Tesla is bad, Hyundai/Kia and the rest of the lot doesn’t lie about that as a selling point so they’re ok
Also the fact Tesla is the main car you’ll see in the US other than a Kia EV6
I like how Teslas are the poor persons car in china 
BYD is seen as the actually nice cars regardless of the price
Especially the seagull or whatever that’s like 10k USD
sly elk
yea i kinda don't care what they think about teslas in china lol
also i rarely see ev6s compared to model 3s/ys
tbh at this point I think I see cybertrucks more often than I see ev6s
sorry lol
though I do see a number if hyundai evs
most of the time when i see a hyundai it's an ioniq
ioniq 5 or 6... hmm did they already discontinue the ev6? i don't even
oh that's a kia
yea it's weird but i almost never see those
i do see ev9s sometimes
dire viper
nah they make everything
the reason you dont see them compared is because they are normal cars and tesla is doing Ferrari shit where reviewers usually are given a Tesla if they arent using it in a comparison test that they will lose in
most of the teslas you see reviewed are from dealers not attached to tesla or from individual owners
dire viper
the reason you dont see them compared is because they are normal cars and tesla ...
this is why tech reviewers get Teslas before actual outlets
the new model 3 is a good car
cause its the least tesla tesla
the Ioniq 6 is Car and Drivers EV of the year for 2023 and what seems maybe 2024
the Fiat 500e mogging on the Nissan Leaf and the Mini Cooper EV
sly elk
the reason you dont see them compared is because they are normal cars and tesla ...
no no no no I mean, in real life, on the streets
and don't get me wrong, I see lots of hyundais and kias, just not many ev6
and I have the completely opposite opinion about car media websites lol
they LOVE LOVE LOVE hyundai/kia
those dudes would probably give a Hyundai Veloster N higher marks than a Porsche 911
I'm pretty sure they're getting paid to do that, to some degree
dire viper
they would cause its affordable lmao
most of the motivation for journalists is pricing
you can buy an EV cheaper than a Tesla that does everything better than a Tesla
you can buy cheaper sports cars than a 911 that do everything better than a base level 911
a BMW lmao
corvette wins or cayman/boxster wins, if money isnt an object its a tie between the Corvette or 911
sly elk
@dire viper at least the ev6 is dirt cheap
or was anyway LOL
i see ioniq 5s for 250-ish
accord lx for 307
honda prologue for 319
that 4c tho
yowza the interior
wow they have this in westminster o_O
it's a damn shame carvana doesn't do normal test drives lol
what do those even go for?
there's a 2015 with 17k miles for $49,999 on cargugurs
sheesh
the audi tt is pretty for 29k lol
\
deep sapphire
https://youtu.be/E8uoQtbp3ac?si=euE6l2vDgcHKmmlj ngl that’s pretty hilarious and badass you can order this from the dealership with a warranty
real edge
If I wanted the "OnePlus 5T" of today, which phone would it be?
The OnePlus 5T had top specs for its time (2016-2017), at only half the price of a flagship phone at 500euro. It was almost just as fast as 1k euro phones and even the iPhone in a few rare cases, all with a clean android with little to no bloatware.
What would be the equivalent phone of today? Any brand, idc, as long as its not xiaomi or huawei or something.
hard drift
Hmmm i am not too sure but i imagine the nothing phone is in the running there
Although if in the US you can’t get it 😭
lost python
nothing phone 2a(plus) probably yeah
hazy frost
2a is cool unless u care about processor
It has enough memory at a good price with a not bloated OS
real edge
hazy frost
Alternative is the pixel 8a which has less ram but a better processor and camera
potent arrow
mediakek still bad?
hazy frost
There’s a oneplus one with decent specs but I can’t remember exactly which one
I’d have to look
hazy frost
mediakek still bad?
Idk about all of them but afaik the one in the 2a is still mid
It’s worse than the tensor processors Google use which are already behind
hazy frost
Check out the oneplus 12r as well
On sale rn
500 for the SD 8 gen 2 and 16gb of ram
Good battery and 120hz screen as well
real edge
531 euro over here yah
hazy frost
It’s got same specs as $700-900 ish phones so I’d say it’s one of the best ones
It’s usually like £650 I think
hazy frost
Way less bloated than Samsung is afaik
And the hardware is priced a lot better than Samsung
So I don’t think so personally
For their flagships maybe true
They’ve gotten more expensive
lost python
nothing is as bloated as samsung lmao
but oneplus got quite pricey in recent years. not terrible, but not great either
hazy frost
Yeah 12R on sale does become a good deal tho
540 for that is kind of a steal compared to the 2a
Imo
golden stream
I do want to try other phones
just samsung phones have good stylus so ummmmm yeah...
hazy frost
I’m still sticking to iPhone for the camera lol
golden stream
I don't need camera much, stylus goated
hazy frost
Stylus is cool
I need camera and battery life
Not many phones seem to be able to do those lol
golden stream
idk how but I see my boss's iphone drains so fast
everytime they see my face, "do u have battery bank"
hazy frost
Idk how they manage that
golden stream
dunno, seriously
hazy frost
They get the best or close to best battery results every time they release
It’s impressive if u drain it
Unless it’s ancient
golden stream
like ngl before youtube having constant check, I used youtube revanced, turn off the main screen, listen to stuff, relatively long hour usage
samey battery capacity btw
golden stream
I get 10+ hours on the 14 pro consistently bc I don’t use full brightness
prob bc full brightness
- multiple apps at the same time
golden stream
my boss also uses a shitty camera filter app which is both heavy in processing and battery draining
hazy frost
I see
hazy frost
Yeah that sucks
hazy frost
mine is a tad less, 15%
U got the bigger model or smaller one
I have to get the small battery bc small hands
golden stream
oh lol nah mine is Fold5
golden stream
then again, I was listening to vtuber VOD
hazy frost
Getting the same battery life as android phones while having a 3500mah battery instead of 5000
golden stream
but must keep the youtube on/active since they changed to constant online check 
hazy frost
lol
golden stream
Getting the same battery life as android phones while having a 3500mah battery i...
that's some impressive battery opti there
hazy frost
The only thing that drains my battery is maps
hazy frost
that's some impressive battery opti there
And the fact u still run 6-8GB of ram and it runs better than phones with 12-16 anyway
golden stream
ONLY IF the user is mindful about battery opti usage
hazy frost
It’s great
golden stream
eh the ecosystem kinda meh
hazy frost
I don’t think an ecosystem is something worth buying a phone for either way
Locking urself into that is just bad for the consumer
golden stream
I need file manager, nice connection to PC for data transfering, and stylus
which, iphone couldn't do et
hazy frost
iPhone should get a better file management system at some point
golden stream
I kinda like ipad level of battery management
like I left an almost full (85%) battery ipad for like, 2-3 weeks in idle, then opened it later, 55%
then I gave my ipad to my granny
hazy frost
Well bigger device much bigger battery
The iPad has a battery like 2-3x bigger it better last
golden stream
yeah, just more impressive idle time ngl
golden stream
ye it's also wifi edition
hazy frost
iPad is still the only tablet I think is worth buying tho
golden stream
thinking abt getting ipad mini when le new one is released
golden stream
the current one or the upcoming one?
hazy frost
Current
I don’t think it’s that much better than the generation before
For price increases
golden stream
I need a bit stronger stuff for le mini tho
golden stream
plus
one gen using 2 types of pencils
I don't want that ngl and it's hella confusing
hazy frost
Many options
golden stream
I'd prefer something more uniform
hazy frost
Well there’s one that works with basically all of them
Atl
Then 2 that only work with some
golden stream
oy I kid u not
I bought ipad gen 10, later on got apple pencil USB-C
tfw the apple pencil C bugged out wayyyy more than the third party stylus
golden stream
prob it's only for notetaking apps, not meant for universal tho
while I just use stylus for p much everything
hazy frost
iPad has the best drawing software too so I like it lol
golden stream
eh, I gotta wait for new ipad mini later this year tho
golden stream
iPad has the best drawing software too so I like it lol
um if that's procreate, idk feels like not my thing
but still use it anyway
got myself both proreate and procrreate dream
hazy frost
I like procreate
It manages to have every feature while simplifying it so it doesn’t look gross when u try to navigate and use it on a smaller device
A lot of desktop apps with mobile versions don’t manage that imo
golden stream
that, ye....
hazy frost
It might be ok with how absurdly large tablets are getting now tho lol
Won’t be as cramped
But especially on the mini I think it’s a big plus that it’s not cluttered
golden stream
But especially on the mini I think it’s a big plus that it’s not cluttered
speaking of mini
should I get the current one (6) or wait for the next one?
hazy frost
Idk what the next one will be like
I’d say u just wait until it comes out and u either get this one cheaper or next one if it’s worth it
royal forge
hazy frost
Intel having less benefits than any other company in existence
Soon
Phone benefit and coffee is such a basic thing to have at a decent office job
lost python
gotta save the couple hundred bucks each month, so the managers can continue receiving their 300k salaries
hazy frost
Yeah
Unfortunately a lot of people struggle to get jobs anyway so have to put up with it
Intel is just a shitty company
For consumers and people working there
inland mauve
wtf
that is such a low blow to their employees
it isn't the average employee that caused these issues, it's the leadership who made the decisions
hazy frost
Leadership never suffers the consequences for their actions
They probably got a raise
inland mauve
wtf just got a BSOD while I was paying my bills
SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
me: tries to be a responsible adult
Microsoft: 
potent arrow
wtf just got a BSOD while I was paying my bills
just means you don't have too pay them
surely
real edge
my mom told me that she does not want a samsung
but I found this
budget is around there
seems balanced for a cheap phone
odd sand
If she doesn't know how to use android, you'll have to teach her though. And she'll probably complain about not having a blue bubble for sms
lost python
i have an older gen oneplus nord rn and its alright
real edge
If she doesn't know how to use android, you'll have to teach her though. And she...
she used to have a xiaomi redmi 9c