technology-discussion

[sly elk]

i find it curious that milwaukee m18 batteries slide into place and pretty much all the others have a tube that inserts into the tool

[deep sapphire]

Nah most of them slide into place it’s only really Ryobi that has the tube thing

And M12

DeWalt, metabo, Makita etc have similar battery design

[sly elk]

oh ok

i've seen the tube thing more often than not LOL

but i've nevre used real tool brands before

[sly elk]

ehehe neat

[copper monolith]

Nice theme

[sly elk]

that's from someone running it on an old ocmputer

sadly the oldest thing i've got laying around has a pentium 1 lol 😄

i'm not sure it still works

[modern iris]

So apparently, a 3GB HDD cost $400 in 1996. I got a 128GB SD card for $20 in 2024.

[hazy frost]

That is what happens when technology develops

Hardware is one of the things that ages the worst and quickest out of anything u can own honestly

Depreciation of any u own as well

[late basalt]

This is actually a variation on Moore's Law iirc

[cerulean talon]

Somewhere I've got an invoice of my grandfather's for 128kb of ram. xD

[sharp star]

So I managed to update my laptop CPU's microcode despite Lenovo not having a BIOS update

I will give it a test spin with the new microcode to see if it makes any difference

[inland mauve]

https://fixupx.com/TwitchSupport/status/1823093964100014588

I want to say that this is just an excuse to train a learning machine on every single message sent through Twitch but let's be honest they're probably already doing that anyway

[dire viper]

I think it’s to have an overzealous ban feature

They’ll probably roll it out to insta ban mfs

Despite most twitch chats behaving like a Chan board

supertf twitch chat whenever he does a cosplay

[sharp star]

butthead

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-butt-head-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s1-e11-that-is-funny-gif-4537522518262305750

[late basalt]

@odd sand

[sly elk]

tar cvzf blah.tgz /**/*

if it was 'write a valid regex for this use case in valid perl sed format' or like.... exit emacs... i might be screwed

and I can outregex pretty much anyone I know lol

[cerulean talon]

tar -xf file.tar

No concerns about gzip not being installed (Thank you redhat, for memeing me)

[sly elk]

LOL

my fedora machine has gzip installed and I didn't

[inland mauve]

tar -h

[sly elk]

^ valid

[inland mauve]

[pine thistle]

and then you find out it's one of those gnu tools that doesn't have -h

because it only has a man page or only allows --help

[sly elk]

valid on my machine

but bsdtar is special

[odd sand]

Today was rage at powershell day instead

[odd sand]

Bought a 2gb for our Mac in early 95 for $400 yep. And that's 90s money so it's more like $650-700 vs $20

[sly elk]

Yea people who hitch about computer prices today are silly

Imagine paying $4000 for a laptop lmao

[dire viper]

I mean a GPU shouldn’t cost 6 times its wholesale price

We all getting fucked by the pricing

PCB is dirt cheap and the chips get cheaper to produce by the year, and the ability to design complex boards and integrate new technologies also gets cheaper by the year

I bet that a 4090 costs like 250-300 to make

And 50% of that is probably the chips

Which still that’s a lot of money to produce a product at such a scale but holy crap is the pricing so ass

[cerulean talon]

The wafer cost alone is more than that for the GPU/ASIC. Chips that get bigger are not getting cheaper.

There is an argument imo for smaller chips, but that's something we're just starting to get on CPU's.

[dire viper]

That’s fair, I just know in earnings calls NVIDIA bragged about how little they actually spend to produce GPU’s compared to the retail price of them

They were implying making more than double the cost on them

Which would put a lot of GPU’s at very low production cost

I know little on production of these so unless NVIDIA was just using sub par materials and just cranking the power I’m assuming what they’ve said does not line up with what is actually happening

Tbf they’ve just said a lot of dumb shit to investors so lmao

I got an AI pamphlet from them

It was cringe

[modern iris]

So maybe it’s my lack of perspective again, but how can people be happy using underpowered store-bought PCs?

[sly elk]

i imagine that's basically a middle finger to the 'aib' 3rd party video card vendors lol

[late basalt]

tbf, a gpu shouldnt cost more than every other component in a build combined

as an aside, iirc, if there's any defects in the wafer found during the whole process the entire thing is ditched as a total loss

[sharp star]

The children yearn for the GTX 1080 Ti

[golden stream]

we all yearn for 1080 Ti or somewhat equivalent

[torpid kayak]

I read that people playing Steam Deck prefer 40 FPS for a smoother 30 FPS experience 🤔
I guess 75 FPS would be a smoother 60 FPS?

[lost python]

ofc

higher fps are smoother

[golden stream]

decker here
I lock my fps at 45fps, a bit lower would result a bit too low to my liking lol
however you're quite correct, it rarely dips under 30fps

though for deck, it's also a bit at CPU and GPU tinkering, like if you keep it max, ye it barely dip below 30 in locked 45fps, however I set it like 12-13W so it does, sometime, mostly in limsa or visual busy place

[finite steeple]

🧙🏻‍♂️ Sage advice where I come from – Shields up! 🛡️👨🏻‍💻
https://youtu.be/cfgQlMC1SM0?si=5uZJ5m56PdB2Cbut

[golden stream]

Dem NICE

not me thinking about cyber sec degree haha

[sharp star]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-5-5500x3d-a-more-affordable-6-core-cpu-with-3d-v-cache-spotted-in-eec-filing

[finite steeple]

Classes and extracurriculars for local MCH-students!
🥽🚁👩🏻‍💻
https://youtu.be/PNh7_Nq6w80?si=kCBs542ksaZ4C9bS

[hazy frost]

Yeah but double would still put manufacturing at like 600-800 on the 4090s

Their enterprise stuff is worse bc it’s an even bigger profit margin lol

[lost python]

https://youtu.be/GwCl03jfk0s

built in kvm switch. neat

finally a gimmick i would actually have a use for

[hazy frost]

4K mini led is so expensive id just buy OLED ngl

In fact any actually perfect mini led that competes with OLED is so expensive it’s not worth it rn

In the UK there’s last gen woled panels for the same price as mini led stuff now

[winter spruce]

buy micro led

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions-home-theater/tvs/micro-led/89-class-micro-led-mna89ms1bacxza/

[dire viper]

Yea that sounds right

They’ve stated they don’t care for the vendors

[hazy frost]

very affordable

[potent arrow]

aighty tech nerds, I need a favor because I'm so fucking cooked with school. One of my client's machines decided to kick the bucket in the middle of exam season and I no longer have inventory to warranty it. 1000$ CAD budget, replacing the cpu and motherboard. Cpu was an AMD APU, no GPU on the PC.

Dunno what to get them rn, I have no time to research newer gen tbh. Use case is literally office 365 and watching hockey, standard office worker stuff.

existing parts are a 500w PSU and an mATX case

just gonna go new, so I can get direct from my partners

[inland mauve]

@real edge shining the bat sign to summon you

[hazy frost]

just replace it with what it had before ?

[potent arrow]

really want to stick with onboard graphics if possible, but if I don't need to get another PSU sure why not.

for some reason the APUs are all back ordered here

otherwise I would

[hazy frost]

well am5 has igpus on all of them except the 7500f

but its expensive

[potent arrow]

plus that machine is like...3 years old

yeah that's uh, why I'm looking for options : P

probably something Intel at this point HNNNG

[hazy frost]

it might be cheaper to go am4 and buy just like an a310 if they dont need gpu power

[potent arrow]

that's an option

I do have a few a310s in my closet for a personal project I can pilfer....

[hazy frost]

can buy just normal am4 cpus and motherboard for like sub $400 and then cheapest gpu possible just for display output

how can u not get any apus

[potent arrow]

I called my partner's this morning

absolutely none

[hazy frost]

unfortunate

[potent arrow]

I have no clue

otherwise I wouldn't be asking lol

[hazy frost]

how do u run out of apus when amd just released more lmao

[potent arrow]

I have exams this week and I don't like leaving client warranty up

[hazy frost]

crazy

[potent arrow]

Probably because of how shit Canada is

[hazy frost]

i mean u can buy them easily from other retailers

[potent arrow]

how old is this thing even

[hazy frost]

idk what it is

[potent arrow]

pretty sure it's some zen2 apu

[hazy frost]

lol

[potent arrow]

that's like 5 years now

I think....

[hazy frost]

they just released a few more zen3 processors

including one apu which i think is just a 5600g

[potent arrow]

hnng I'll have to buy off my business account if I go for that

[hazy frost]

canada computers has the 5600gt for $170

and it should work with the motherboard u have hopefully if its am4

[potent arrow]

yeah not partnered with those guys

[hazy frost]

rip

[potent arrow]

ah well

I'll just foot the cost for now

[potent arrow]

that Newegg is a lie, it'll take 2-3 weeks to come in

well

time to find a mobo for that

I'll grab it from best buy

[hazy frost]

u dont have an am4 one?

if u already had zen2

[potent arrow]

I'm not using that board

yeet

[hazy frost]

lol

[potent arrow]

warranty policy lol

if I replace cpu I replace motherboard

just so they can get better io/new features

what's like the cheapest none MSI mATX we can find •-•

[hazy frost]

ah

why not msi

depends which stores u can use as well

[potent arrow]

no

msi

https://www.newegg.ca/gigabyte-b550m-k/p/N82E16813145434?

good enough

most none offensive shite board

actually

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VxXXdH

yeah sure

whatever that works

the motherboard would be free if I chose this one

this thing so horrid I love it

[hazy frost]

its itx tho

[potent arrow]

it's fine

it's will fit in an matx case

not like the client knows size difference

nor the io will matter

they use keyboard and mouse combo

god

how the fuck is this thing 4-5 years old

[real edge]

well there are some IGPUs on stuff like the 5700G and such

[potent arrow]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VxXXdH

there's what I went with

already called in the parts

[real edge]

thats quite the expensive mobo but its CAD so it might just be inflated due to that

I remember getting my b550 gigabyte one for like 100euro or sth

[potent arrow]

yeah uh

cad is worthless nhadala

[real edge]

ohh

[hazy frost]

yeah 100 euros is not close to 100 cad

[potent arrow]

100 euro is like 170$ cad

[hazy frost]

lol

[potent arrow]

our dollar is fucking worthless

[hazy frost]

true

[dire viper]

Rn is the time for us US car guys to buy Canadian cars

[potent arrow]

buy my shitbox

[dire viper]

I follow a guy named Derek Tam Scott and he bought a 944 with every option on it for like 6k USD in BC

In the US that car is worth 10-20k

[hazy frost]

the US is just really overpriced and canada is normal

lmao

i know its not even the best trim but like

still

turbo ones are like 4-5k

[dire viper]

US isn’t that overpriced

Its the size of the US that’s the issue

Every state market is different

Porsches are cheapest in Cali, trucks are cheapest in Texas

Like the yen is worth nothing and so importing JDM cars is better than buying domestic versions of said cars

[hazy frost]

its pretty bad

generally

theres like a few states that dont suck but living in those ones is an L anyway

[dire viper]

What

I’m talking about cars

If you want cheap cars you don’t buy them from inside a big city

This is the rule of thumb

Unless said city is the largest buyer of a type of car

70% of V12 Mercedes have been sold in California

California has made up 30% of Porsches historic sales

I think the 30% number is still correct

A mint condition 90’s ford ranger is 15-20k in salt lake but an hour away it’s 6-7k

[hazy frost]

yeah i know

the only places car prices are any good suck to live in

and most people dont want to travel several hours to buy a car

and then several back

[dire viper]

Well that’s what u gotta do to buy anything interesting

Commuter cars are still cheap

[hazy frost]

or u pay 20% more in ur own state

[dire viper]

Anything more than that not obviously lmao

[hazy frost]

easy in the UK everything is t he same price everywhere for cars lol

at most u travel like 4 hours

the problem with travelling to buy a car is having someone drive with u to take the ride back lol

[dire viper]

Uber

[hazy frost]

paying £400 for that trip

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKV0FiuVJ0E

[deep sapphire]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/08/microsofts-paint-3d-was-once-the-future-of-ms-paint-but-now-its-going-away/

what a surprise

microsft's inability to release any software that anyone cares about

[dire viper]

@potent arrow factory AC delete in a brand new 911 is a thing you can do ig

[potent arrow]

WHY

[dire viper]

Yes

[finite steeple]

Farm bots! 🌱👩🏻‍💻🌽 Local MCHs and BTNs join forces!
https://youtu.be/jKdg5C78EMs?si=0tpayoMvfc1Hvl3V

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c33F-Vh13FE

BUILT FORD TOUGH

[dire viper]

Every targa top on an American car has been bad

Jeeps have a lot of sealing issues as of late

The Bronco too

Based Porsche Targa not having any issues and being exceedingly complex

https://youtu.be/GgiiY8x4g2o?si=MpWuRXmNmIS29n5q

It’s cool the roll hoop pops open

[paper tusk]

for the crazy people who want every last drop of performance (*and suffering)

same idea as Fabspeed mufflers/resonators to reduce rear end weight

[dire viper]

You also don’t really need AC in a car specifically designed to be driven with the roof down

The Speedster is a heavily modified 911 GT3 with a special convertible top that you have to manually do lol

It’s got a lot of light weight stuff on it over the standard cars

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/6wLXQnZjcjU
since Zen 5 discourse is still a hot topic

[hazy frost]

What about when u don’t want to have the roof down tho

[hazy frost]

I mean it’s been like no time since they released I don’t care enough yet while Intel is still shitting the bed

Ur alternative is ur cpu just stopping working and no refund atp

[sharp star]

lol

The only other alternative is Zen 4

[dire viper]

then ur dumb for buying a car thats an homage to cars without roofs

the 356 Speedster didnt have a roof to make it cheaper

and you cant drive it with the top up

so that idea continued but they made it usable with the top up in the 911

then after a few generations they realized the only people buying a speedster etc was someone who was excessive and willing to do things like AC and Radio delete

[wraith agate]

Lmao

"How do we make this car cheaper?"
"Cut off the roof"

[dire viper]

yes lmao

the 356 Speedster then became iconic in racing

a lot of guys could afford to buy the base speedster and race it on the weekends

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/13/24219469/valve-steamos-asus-rog-ally-steady-progress-dual-boot

[deep sapphire]

what if its raining

and humid out

[dire viper]

u dont

[golden stream]

POGGU

[odd sand]

Steve angy at everyone now huh /s

[sharp star]

I would too though, given that Intel is effectively out of the CPU competition and that Zen 5 is meh

[sly elk]

rawr it turns out, using hdmi solves all of my problems with my desktop. yay.

also my monitor has built in usb switching so I'm using that now too :3

[sharp star]

Anyway I think there’s some reasons for Zen 5 being a crap launch, mainly:

• Gaming end users are massively spoiled by X3D because it’s so damn good.
• When discouting X3D CPUs, Zen 5’s only competition is Zen 4 and there’s almost zero reason to buy a Zen 5 CPU over Zen 4.
• It’s not as efficient as we thought.

https://www.techpowerup.com/325533/mindfactory-only-sold-a-few-dozen-amd-ryzen-7-9700x-and-ryzen-5-9600x oof

[sly elk]

there's not much reason to buy a 7800x3d over a 5800x3d LOL

i mean there is a performance jump but if you have a 5800x3d already

[lost python]

entirely depends on your gpu but the 5800x3d is good as it is, still

[potent arrow]

the 5800x3D is the 1080ti of CPUs

it'll haunt me till the end of time

[sharp star]

The children yearn for the 1080 Ti

[potent arrow]

same as the 2500k that I STILL FIND IN RANDOM SYSTEMS LOL

[lost python]

2500k my beloved

lasted me until 2020

10 fucking years and i only replaced it because 4 cores were not enough for battlefield

[sly elk]

aye 10 seriesd

[potent arrow]

it's gonna be the same shit with the 5800x3D I stg lol

[lost python]

probably

[real edge]

[hazy frost]

This is the most stupid purist thing I’ve seen

[golden stream]

the first reason is hella silly and so damn realistic

[sharp star]

It's not wrong though

X3D has massively spoiled us

[golden stream]

it's a legit reason to ruin one's business tho

in the lady/who-has-||uterus|| side, one company gone bankrupted bc they made a product that was so good and long lasting LOL
iirc before they closed, people mass buying their stuff

so samey to 5800x3d, it's just too good that it can run well pretty much anything for at least a decade later

[hazy frost]

People comparing it as if they’d make a cpu that’s way cheaper at MSRP better than the 7800x3d anyway lmao

7800x3d was like $450 on release and the 9700x is only $350

The stability issues are the only actual issue I think people should have about zen5

The fact GN couldn’t even test the 9600x properly is bad

[sharp star]

yep

[finite steeple]

🚁MCH×ALC💊 = improved tribal relations! ☮️
https://youtu.be/yQbOFpMzMrY?si=albI0W4HtJQCKdR7

[dire viper]

??

This is an OG speedster

This is lightning in a bottle that the Speedster name tries to capture to this day

The new speedster has a manually controlled convertible top that is an utter pain in the ass to use, like the Boxster Spyder

Car does not care what’s convenient or logical, it’s not designed around that

Boxster Spyders also have had the option to delete the AC and Radio since the first one came out

And about half of the first generation had those deleted

Don’t buy the thing designed to be inconvenient and expect convenience

[wide hill]

good luck dual booting windows and linux without wasting a ton of disk space

and having to deal with divided disk space, one for linux games and one for windows games

unless you somehow manage to make a partition to use both like how linux can support ntfs

though iirc, ffxiv on steam deck requires it be installed on the main disk i think?

[pine thistle]

why would you dual boot, you can run windows games on linux

[wide hill]

some games that require kernel level access for their anti-cheat, but i guess you shouldn't need to play those games anyway, it's good for you

[pine thistle]

doesn't easy anticheat actually support Linux now

might be mixing up things

[wide hill]

it does, but not all games use the same anti-cheat

i think Vanguard and BattlEye(?) doesn't support it

some* games on battleeye work

[wide hill]

oh and don't forget any games that are not in the steam launcher, like the epic launcher, rockstar launcher, EA launcher and ubisoft launcher

[pine thistle]

fuck those anyway :D

I guess you could probably hack it together with proton tho

or just play xiv, no anticheat so it's ez

[wide hill]

if it was that easy it would have already been done

nvm i guess epic games launcher you could still

[hazy frost]

Vanguard hates basically everything

It doesn’t work properly even when it should

[odd sand]

That's mildly concerning: Amazon and Newegg use the exact same OTP algorithm for account login.

So theoretically that means if you initiated an OTP login on the one system at the same time, you could input that OTP into the other one and it would work.

Unless it also uses like your account name as a salt. But I don't think I use the same email for my amazon and newegg so...

I went to log into both like a minute apart and my OTP codes were almost identical

[wide hill]

are we talking about them generating the same qr code, or the numbers?
as numbers are generated by your own client using the hash from your qr code

[deep sapphire]

I had someone try to gain access to my bank by doing this method

it came from the same number and everything

[cerulean talon]

Everyone uses the same major OTP algo.

[deep sapphire]

I went to the bank to ask them about this and told them why tf would I be getting fake 2FA's from the same number

[cerulean talon]

How did they send the OTP's?

[wide hill]

or are we talking about sms otp?

if it's sms, then they might be using aws pinpoint https://docs.aws.amazon.com/pinpoint/latest/developerguide/send-validate-otp.html

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, you likely just got codes that were similar.

Even with totp codes, you get them semi-often.

[odd sand]

If you say so. The first 4 numbers were the same and the overall number was only different by 6

Which made it seem like it was a derivative of epoch time

[wide hill]

@odd sand are we talking about sms still or?

[sharp star]

https://youtu.be/iyA9DRTJtyE the children yearn for X3D

WHY DOES THE 9900X AND 9950X REQUIRE CORE PARKING

WHAT THE FUCK AMD

[deep sapphire]

not to sound like an intel fanboy (cause im not) but AMD fanboys are really annoying, they are constantly trying to skirt this (THIS WASNT A GAMING CPU IN THE FIRST PLACE IT WAS MEANT FOR SERVERS) thats just a stupid argument because if that were the case why did they put GAMING in their own fucking marketing and lie about it

literally the first thing

GAMING

[sharp star]

Also AMD didn’t disclose the core parking part until five days after review samples were handed out

lol

[deep sapphire]

this just feels like a total disaster of a launch and was not ready, they needed to delay this until better bios firmware was available and scheduling was fixed

wasnt that already fixed for the 7950X

this just reminds me of the first gen threadripper chips that had major issues with that core parking bullshit

some will argue its a non issue just use software to manually do that but just like intel releasing a microcode patch it shouldnt be on the end user to fix your product

you should've made it function without other people needing to fix it for you

https://www.techpowerup.com/325568/amd-ryzen-9000-zen-5-cpus-set-for-power-boost-agesa-update-increasing-tdp-up-to-105w#:~:text=Recent reports suggest that AMD's,6-core Ryzen 5 9600X.

so now its "efficiency" benefit is being tossed out the window

and the higher power limit in reviews showed hardly any benefit

[sharp star]

lmao even

[deep sapphire]

I dunno something is fishy, I saw another thread on r/hardware that showed linux performance being up to 30 percent faster how can that even be remotely accurate between windows and linux

I could see maybe 5-10 percent at the most

yes I know windows sucks and so does its task scheduler (only reason I went to 11 because it barely functions on 10 with intel's shit) but thats just ridiculous specially when linux only has a 5 percent marketshare

[hazy frost]

U have to put gaming in ur marketing so idiots with too much money buy it

Like the 14900k

But like realistically we all know both are not for gaming

[deep sapphire]

yeah but the 14900K is the fastest gaming CPU they offer even if its unrealistic and draws obscene all core power

[hazy frost]

Well no bc the 7800x3d is faster or equal

[deep sapphire]

in AMD's case, this thing isnt even close to the fastest gaming CPU and I just watched debauer's review the 7950X was usually faster than this thing

and reports are showing the CCX latency on the 9950X is 200ns which is 3x as much as the 7950X and explains why core parking is back

[hazy frost]

The 9950x kind of sucks

[deep sapphire]

I said they offer, in that being intel

[hazy frost]

I actually like the 9700x and 9600x

Both companies’ marketing is all just lies either way

[deep sapphire]

everyone already knows the 7800X3D is by far the best gaming CPU anyone should be looking at

my problem with this launch is what is gonna be of the 9800X3D or w/e that comes out

whats going to happen with this heavily rumored 9950X3D with having both banks of 3D cache

with that kind of latency there is no way thats going to happen now

[hazy frost]

I mean it should guaranteed be better than 7950x3d atl

But that’s a low bar

And it’s probably going to be mediocre overall

Only plus is now we can run 6400mt ram on am5 anyway somewhat consistently but that’s not a zen5 thing

Maybe if Intel fixes their shit they will actually be on top for once but I also don’t trust them now lmao

[sly elk]

not defending amd here at all, believe me: but I'm pretty sure that when it comes to not-gaming things, the 7800x3d is noticeably worse than the other not-gaming-oriented amd cpus?

kinda sorta like intel's desktop i7/i9 vs the xeons?

though I will definitely share the frustration that nobody seems to be able to make a "best at everything" computer part anymore

monitors are like that, too

take the infamous 34" 3440x1440 oled for example

great screen for gaming

beyond that? eh?

sorry i thought it was 38" lol

i think 34" 3440x1440 is the new 24" 1080p

[drowsy star]

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/browsing/google-pulls-the-plug-on-ublock-origin

[dire viper]

Can the EU do a lawsuit about this already and just cripple their revenue

[sly elk]

i was just reading a post on reddit last night where people were talking about chrome and going like

yeeeaaaa this sucks. also no i won't use firefox

actually a hell of a lot ofpeople defending google with "well they need to make money somehow" LOL

[hazy frost]

I mean anything where u care about colour accuracy it is still great

The only downside of OLED is literally burn in and as that’s a concern that’s becoming less of an issue i see it just as the all rounder now

[hazy frost]

The reality is unless u play a game where u need the 3D cache (very few games rn) then u should just buy a 7600x anyway and u won’t be cpu bottlenecked in 1440p or 1080p rly

Unless u insist on playing on lowest graphics but then ur weird

It’s kind of like awesome best gaming cpu but if u have that kind of money just buy a better gpu and save $150 on ur cpu for the same effect

[dire viper]

Why don’t people wanna use Firefox

It’s not chrome it’s not edge

I will take a hit on something else just for that

[hazy frost]

Idk why anyone would willingly use anything else over Firefox anyway

It’s just better regardless of current events

[cold yacht]

Cause switching browsers is tedious

Especially if people got passwords saved into the browser

[hazy frost]

It is not that difficult

I feel like peoples attention spans are tiny when they say stuff like this

Acting like it’s gonna take 8 hours to switch browsers

[cold yacht]

It’s not difficult just tedious

[hazy frost]

What part of it is tedious

It takes no time at all and ur done

Suffering through the experience of a browser that’s just getting worse instead of spending like an hour switching is insane

[zealous wolf]

https://fixupx.com/rawsalerts/status/1823807973912928536 welp

might as well move to another country at this point

[wraith agate]

Lmao

At least you no longer have to worry about accidentally leaking your Social security number

[dire viper]

Massive emphasis on may have

The place that posted the screenshot can’t verify if it’s real lol

National Public Data has also just purged its entire database apparently of all information implied to be leaked, which was the entity that was hacked

Drivers License and Passports and there photos aren’t in the leak

Emails also

[odd sand]

Can we just do away with using them for any sensitive purposes already?

Wild that they still factor into loans and such.

[dire viper]

I mean we should probably just not have checks on apartments that also require your social security

Like you have to have your social security for basic shit now so no wonder it’s such an issue they get stolen so often

[deep sapphire]

people dont wanna give out apartments to people who wont pay their rent

[wraith agate]

Well they can get fucked

You either trust or piss off

[deep sapphire]

thats not how the real world works

im sure you and everyone else has "borrowed" money to family and friends

who just so happened to "forget"

[wraith agate]

I mean here in Europe we don't need SSN to rent a room

[deep sapphire]

neither do you here

[wraith agate]

Then what

[deep sapphire]

renting an apartment

[wraith agate]

Why do you need it

[deep sapphire]

so you can collect your social security when you retire

[wraith agate]

Apartment, room, same thing

[deep sapphire]

its a pension system

[zealous wolf]

when it comes to stuff like that, i feel like Europe is more civilized here than in the US

[deep sapphire]

wym

you walk in

I want a room

okay 100 bucks

here's your key

how much harder is it

[wraith agate]

Well you sign a legal contract so your landlord can't suddenly hike up the price after the first month

[cold yacht]

Renting an apartment be a bitch

[deep sapphire]

thats literally not how it works

I dont live in europe so I dont make shit up so dont make shit up either

[wraith agate]

That's how it works in Europe

I'm telling you

[deep sapphire]

cool

thats not how it works here

[wraith agate]

Okay who cares

[deep sapphire]

I do

stop making shit up

[wraith agate]

Your system sucks that's well known

I didn't?

[deep sapphire]

I said enough

[wraith agate]

You asked how harder it can be than that, so I gave an example of how it works in the EU

[cold yacht]

But yeah asking for multi month rent as a security deposit and if you trying to leave then the landlord will try to fight to keep your deposit

[deep sapphire]

enough with this topic

its rule 4 leaning

I dont even know what any of this has to do with technology

[cold yacht]

You’re the one that brought the topic up

[zealous wolf]

in anycase, uh, our systems regarding on keeping SSN etc in the US really needs to be burnt to the ground and have it built back up into something new

new systems, etc

[cold yacht]

Well rent topic

[deep sapphire]

no im not

[modest moss]

No he didn't

[deep sapphire]

.

im just tired of people making stuff up to go "hurr durr america bad"

[cold yacht]

Whoops missed gramps

[modest moss]

And when a mentor says drop something it's not a request

[deep sapphire]

cause thats obviously what that was

[cold yacht]

Alright alright

[dire viper]

My life being ruined cause I broke my wrist I love it here

[deep sapphire]

next person that brings up anything related to this

is getting muted

stop typing and think about what you are about to say

[cold yacht]

I remember rolling my ankle few years ago

Shit sucked

[dire viper]

True

I got knocked of my bike and broke my wrist

That arm is slightly shorter now

[finite steeple]

🛡️👩🏻‍💻
https://youtu.be/mFH58LAQAg8?si=4xBntsnI4YMnuCvu

[deep sapphire]

didnt I say not to talk about this anymore?

I know you are new but please dont talk about this anymore

[compact pine]

https://tenor.com/view/jakes-td-look-back-gif-15649983

[late pier]

Hey guys, anybody playing FFXIV with integrated graphic card on a laptop? How is the experience nowadays?

[sly elk]

there are rules in california about how much they can jack your rent up https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/media/Know-Your-Rights-Tenants-English.pdf

[odd sand]

Depends on how old the laptop is and Intel or AMD. AMD tends to have stronger igpu than Intel last I knew

[drowsy star]

Intel is having a… moment

The 13th and 14th gen CPU’s are just doomed to die?

[cold yacht]

A good chunk yeah

[odd sand]

I mean, isn't it still only like 25% or less?

Which is still a huge number, but it's not like you're guaranteed to have a dead cpu

[modern iris]

So is Intel going out of business?

[inland mauve]

probably not

[odd sand]

Fuck no. Their market cap is still like tens of billions

[modern iris]

oh. It sounded like they were in trouble financially.

[odd sand]

Also amd doesn't have the production to satisfy the entire consumer market, so some ppl are.gonna be stuck with Intel either way heh

Yes and no. They are trying to cost cut $10B this year, but their revenues are way more than that.

It's mostly for shareholder assurance

That said, Intel probably does have a lot of bloat. Also I wonder if they're using it to cut staff that aren't involved in big.little arch

[late pier]

Yeah, I hear about that, though how far into the generation Ryzen now? 8?

[odd sand]

For desktop CPUs they're on 7 and about to release 9. 8 is reserved for mobile

https://www.amd.com/en/partner/articles/ryzen-8000G-series-processors.html

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2162142/amd-announces-ryzen-8000-laptop-processors-with-a-renewed-ai-push.html

Hmm apparently they have igpu desktop and mobile will both be on 8000 series

[dire viper]

What does AI future mean

What did they mean by this

[golden stream]

prob ready for AI processing or whatnot

like I'm running a local host chatbot (Backyard AI), been quite nice so far but ofc they do love access to GPU w extra vram

unless for image gen idk abt that part

[odd sand]

Absolutely nothing

Just something else to waste silicon on and try to charge extra for

[golden stream]

so AI ads is p much snakeoil?

like my 12th gen CPU (mobile btw) + 4060 (mobile btw + low power) still can run Backyard AI with small models just fine

uhh 40GB memory bc mismatch sticks

unless is they want to run local AI/kinda halfass process local side before yeet on Gemini/whatever but then that's just straight weird

[deep sapphire]

New arrow lake rumors sounding good

[sharp star]

I hope so

[golden stream]

downtime tangent
Altho me be genZ but then seeing my own fellow genZ who are younger than my cousins are committing IT illiteracy crimes

One not known what is USB flash drive, not know how to copy paste thing from/into it
Another complained why their storage is running out, while having windows emu on a lowest storage mac, having gdrive sync turning on and use the palm rest as mousepad
My boss denies to plug any flashdrives into his machine, afraid of virus, but sir ur machine is a mac

[sly elk]

yea intel stock is fairly flat right now

they'll be ok

they did take a solid kick in the ass though

[deep sapphire]

https://i.4cdn.org/g/1723621531929682.gif

[sharp star]

Yeah I think Intel needed a real kick in the pants, but not like whatever the hell kinda beatdown they got

Thanks, investors

[deep sapphire]

I would have forgiven them if they acted upon it when they knew about it not kick it down the road for 2 years and then go "oh shit sorry here's a 2 year extended warranty" when they finally get caught

[sharp star]

Yeah

[deep sapphire]

its like my ordeal with power tool warranties like people rely on these to do their job who cares if they ahve a good warranty if the fuckin tool breaks after a year what are you supposed to do wait 2 weeks for it to come back and not work? lmao

same with a PC, you have to send your CPU in, wait a week for them to accept it (which we know they havent been doing) and then wait another week

most people arent going to wait 2 weeks without a working PC

warranties are nice, but making the thing work right in the first place is a lot better

[finite steeple]

Yes yes, I only noticed you said that after I replied to someone and proceeded to scroll further. Pardonnez-moi.

[zealous wolf]

each time i hear companies etc promoting AI, its usually either to replace jobs, or AI rendering's of peeps to have em say w/e shit or deepfakes

like FR, the AI we have these days is not like the reploids of megaman x or w/e

cant think, act for itself, etc, and still requires human imput

[modern iris]

AI sucks, fuck toasters.

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-gif-18166316

[zealous wolf]

as much as id like to see actual AI robots come into existance, seems like folks are too smooth brained & goes the grifter route on it

[modern iris]

Yeah, we could do so much with AI and what do we choose to do with it? Steal people's artwork.

Until we develop efficient enough computing that it's not going to have the carbon footprint of a coal power plant, it's going to be a problem.

[finite steeple]

Depending how it's used, typically A.I., like any technology, just makes jobs of humans easier by completing the tedious tasks more efficiently so we can focus time and effort on more important things. Electronic computers have always been doing the tedious work previously done by humans. It's how industries evolve and new opportunities are created. Provided a competent human is still in charge of the overall operation. #Innovation
https://youtu.be/eE69LKO4dCQ?si=-KJnp5TTG8mQVr3c

[finite steeple]

They're already here! 🤖🛒
https://youtu.be/TGiG6D6Nlkk?si=2jhfLTHuWXqEvi9R

[golden stream]

Well AI is already used in art for quite a while (mostly 3d btw), it's sometime called assist and it's rather simpler than the...current stuff

Like procedure generate pulled from a local library, i.e vegetables or towns or w/e

It does help in producing phase tho

Just the current state of AI is genAI be the issue

2d artist peep may love AI can auto alpha/autofill color

Inbetween peep is still needed for some goodie sakuga tho

[golden stream]

Atm am happy w AI waifu chatbot
neurosama btw

[wide hill]

my phone has a very bad wifi at work, and i logged into unifi to check, and it showed that there was a conflict of ip.

i was worried one: went in the unifi client devices list and searched up the ip address, found no other device using that ip
then it must be connected with cable, checked every single virtual machine, and every one had a static ip outside the dhcp range, so that was fine.

so i logged in to the windows server to check for leases, no leases but for my phone in that ip address, deleted it, and still it would lease that ip address to me.

i changed my phone ip address to a different non-leased ip, and pinged the ip, it still pinged.
i tried SSH into it, and it worked, though i couldn't log in to it, so then i was very worried.

then i double checked unifi and looked into the list of access points, and there it was, an access point with the exact same ip that i had on my phone.
and there it was, opened the settings, and found "static ip", set to the dhcp range. changed it back to dhcp, and the lease is back as what it should be.

[finite steeple]

In my state, such progress is very comprehensive and only increasing at a rate greater than anywhere else I know. Those supermarkets are just one example. (scroll back for a few more intriguing tech applications I've shared here)

[golden stream]

Do u know
A lady brought Americans to the moon
Meet her
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(software_engineer)

[inland mauve]

hell yeah Margaret Hamilton

[golden stream]

But ngl, with AI, such tendious works could be done fairly quick, tho human supervisor is still needed just for the oopsie hallucination

[inland mauve]

her team developed the software that let the Apollo computers prioritize important tasks over unimportant tasks when the computer got overloaded during the Apollo 11 mission

if the software hadn't been designed to be able to do that, the computer would have crashed, and the mission would have turned into a disaster

[golden stream]

Mag Hamillton: I brought peep to the moon AND bacc :D

[sly elk]

the functionality adobe likes advertising on instagram looks really slapdash though lol. like taking a picture of yourself in front of a cement wall and then spending 30 seconds turning it into a beach picture

[finite steeple]

I believe I have learned of her before. Didn't recognize the name at first .🤓

[sly elk]

i thought viy was using a rocket in their name

realized it's just a pen xD

[golden stream]

Well adobe stuff is HELLA gray tho
It's borderline of creating stuff already in the library AND gen
However there is indeed, stuff like auto select the correct person(s) over dots on the concreate wall, ye AI assist such part is fine
Just not fine that they gen from unconsent stuff on their cloud tho

[inland mauve]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper

here is another power lady in the history of computing science

Grace Hopper invented the compiler

she was also really funny

[golden stream]

now I can yell her name while hearing ANY PC making turbo jet noise while compiling

[inland mauve]

there is an old interview with her where she demonstrates how she explains to generals in the army why satellite communication cannot go faster than the speed of light

[finite steeple]

I know I've learned about her, too, somewhere before. 🤓

[sly elk]

"The most important thing I've accomplished, other than building the compiler", she said, "is training young people. They come to me, you know, and say, 'Do you think we can do this?' I say, 'Try it.' And I back 'em up. They need that. I keep track of them as they get older and I stir 'em up at intervals so they don't forget to take chances."[45]
I like this ^^

[inland mauve]

she would carry these little sticks around that was the distance that light could travel in a nanosecond

or something like that

[golden stream]

Caring and based lady

[sly elk]

you mean a ruler? XD

https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=(speed+of+light+*+1+nanosecond)+to+feet

it's almost exactly a foot xD

[inland mauve]

yeah something like that

[sly elk]

it's a neat coincidence lol

[inland mauve]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace

[golden stream]

Ah yes lady Lovelace

[inland mauve]

another example

from before computing science even existed as a field

[sly elk]

you wanna work on spacecraft software? :3

it's fun :3

[golden stream]

yesh

[potent arrow]

[golden stream]

I kid u not
The relics Voyagers are still alive

That IS impressive

[inland mauve]

oh yeah one of them has left the heliosphere

[sly elk]

yea admittedly the stuff i've touched only goes as far as GEO lol

[golden stream]

Iirc the V1 speedy boi

[inland mauve]

and when we manage to get contact with it, it is sending back data on space outside of the direct influence of the Sun

where no man has ever gone before

[golden stream]

Wair no, the Horizon had data of Arrakis

[inland mauve]

it is so cool that these two satellites that were launched so long ago are still going out there

and we're still getting data from them occasionally

[potent arrow]

I mean so much of their electronics is just pure analog circuitry. It's literally as reliable as physics

[golden stream]

But V2 brought us so many data of the rest of the sol system's big planets

[potent arrow]

it'll go untill it gets worn out

really cool stuff

[sly elk]

until the rtg can't power it anymore

[potent arrow]

ya

[golden stream]

Ya

[sly elk]

i mean

you can make computers last a long long time, the mechanicals tend to be troublesome a lot faster

[golden stream]

The Pioneers iirc ain't that far compared to V1

[potent arrow]

some of the boards are super cool, Ive taken two courses in power electronics and it hurts my head thinking about the multistage power regulation in those things

[golden stream]

Well the V1's onboard computer encountered issues already

[sly elk]

iif you have fixed solar arrays and the most primitive oldschool reaction wheels known to man

hmm

nah that sorta system still depends on a little bit of propellant lol

[golden stream]

Well, it's still

Esp to escape one planet's gravity well

ZE SLINGSHOT REEEE

[sly elk]

we had a project to speed up satellites deorbiting

that was cool

[golden stream]

V2 did it a few times tho

[sly elk]

and it did work

[inland mauve]

how much delta-v do the voyagers even have left at this point

[golden stream]

Hmmmm

[inland mauve]

it can't be much

[golden stream]

Lemme see

Mostly propellant at this current stage is just to keep antenna disc to Earth

[sly elk]

oh my

it does have 16 thrusters

[golden stream]

BUT V1 and V2 ALL did delta-v at Jupiter

[inland mauve]

yeah that far out in space it doesn't need to make a lot of adjustments

[golden stream]

Within sol system, yes tho

[inland mauve]

what fucks me up is that they're still nowhere near the outer field of planetoids

the Oort cloud?

[golden stream]

Ya the oort cloud

[inland mauve]

still not even close to it

[golden stream]

V1 reported that there's a shock at heliosphere's wall tho

[sly elk]

so in 2023 they wrote that

[golden stream]

But not to oort yet

[sly elk]

Engineers can’t know for sure when the thruster propellant inlet tubes will become completely clogged, but they expect that with these precautions, that won’t happen for at least five more years, possibly much longer. The team can take additional steps in the coming years to extend the lifetime of the thrusters even more.

[inland mauve]

the heliopause?

[sly elk]

like holy shit

[golden stream]

O ya

[sly elk]

not only have they not run out of fuel yet but it sounds more like the lines would get clogged before they ran out

LOL

[golden stream]

The audacity of "we dunno letz ball" of that era is wild

[inland mauve]

well regardless even though Voyager 1 is nowhere near the Oort cloud, by leaving the heliosphere it is technically in interstellar space

making it the first object made by humans that has gone interstellar

[sly elk]

i mean we still do that a lot

[golden stream]

Prob a mix of whatever compressed and space dust, prob, considering that the Voys are moving entities and have their own gravity well

[sly elk]

a lot a lot

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/voyager-1-fires-up-thrusters-after-37-years

[sly elk]

or maybe the hydrazine reacts with the plumbing somehow

idk

I am only sorta familiar with a few propulsion system types

[golden stream]

In space, reaction is limited bc vaccum tho
But then again Voys been out there for HELLA longer than expected

[golden stream]

That reminds me of the recent Japan upside-down probe on the moon
Japan: oopsie
Probe: anyway I start collect data

[sly elk]

you just switch a flag

TELLING IT THIS WAY IS UP

DONE

team: we meant to do that

[golden stream]

task failed successfully

[inland mauve]

my favourite probe story is the probe we sent to Venus, which after touching down on the surface worked for like five seconds or so before collapsing under the atmospheric pressure

[sly elk]

every engineer and technician's worst nightmare: "It only fails sometimes"

"most of the time it works all the time"

[golden stream]

plus ze floor is lava

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-conversations-iq-just-dropped-by-like-a-hundred-asagiri-gen-dr-stone-gif-16080261

[inland mauve]

Venus is part of the reason why Starfield pisses me off so much, humans can't live on Earth anymore but if I land on Venus I walk five steps and stumble over a village of humans in spacesuits living in containers

[sly elk]

me reading the discrepancy report

[golden stream]

At least Warframe does throw Void magic and Orokin terraforming shenanigan so it's kinda acceptable...somewhat
ALSO F STARFIELD WE HAVE ARKNIGHTS'S LONE TRAIL

[inland mauve]

Warframe is a completely different story, Venus has been terraformed for generations in that

[golden stream]

Ye Warframe shenanigan
The eternalism 5d-chess shenanigan
The void shenanigan
It's just work

[inland mauve]

same with Destiny, all those planets and moons have had terraforming going on on them for a long time

[royal forge]

Ah man

Warframe lore

[wise jay]

I hope something finds the voyager probe

[sly elk]

that would be knida scary tbh

[finite steeple]

🔋🛰️ A facility in my city may soon be manufacturing the battery cells for these things.
https://youtu.be/DESOFvXG2t4?si=j5Q8M3kk-CZQMDbY

[sly elk]

but so is the idea that we're in this giant universe

ALONE

ALL ALONE

[golden stream]

Speaking of Voys, each has their own Golden Record

[golden stream]

Wait, is the Earth's address on the Golden Rec correct??

[wise jay]

I want some alien teen with a spaceship to find it and send the golden record back and say our music is shit

[sly elk]

yees

YES

you can watch a video of that record

err what's on the record

[golden stream]

Fun fact: some tracks in the record are YARRRRRRDDDD-ed

[inland mauve]

yeah, Earth's address on the golden record was designed by scientists to be something that an alien race could understand without having to know human language

[golden stream]

No, I mean, is it the correct one tho lol

Bc I think I stumbled in a vid that the address was kinda...a bit wrong

[inland mauve]

imagine if we intercepted an alien probe

[golden stream]

Like, not dead wrong, just a bit

[inland mauve]

and had to make sense of the writing on their equivalent of a golden record

[wise jay]

ya the details for how to play the second disk full of info is on the first disk

[sly elk]

it's kinda laughably arrogant that we sent something out with a golden record

[golden stream]

less reaction w other elements
covered in radiation element that can identify decay age
Eh ngl it's rather ok

[inland mauve]

it makes sense in that gold does not corrode

[sly elk]

i think maybe the most likely thing to happen is

[inland mauve]

it wasn't done out of vanity, but out of practicality

[wise jay]

we gotta make the aliens think were not poor and uncivilized

[sly elk]

that thousands of years later maybe our technology is good enough to fly out and retrieve it

and some historians go on a mission to retrieve the record from one of the voyagers

[golden stream]

Eh, iirc the V2 is easier to get

Not that far like the V1

[inland mauve]

if we ever develop FTL travel, then that shouldn't matter too much

[golden stream]

The newer boi New Horizon is not as far tho

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEzcFXRKHUw&rco=1

[golden stream]

Speaking of 🛰️ , AI can track space junk orbits and predict potential collision
The US airforce DOES record ALL of spacejunk objects orbiting btw

[inland mauve]

we rly need to start cleaning that shit up

it's getting problematic

[golden stream]

Well, yeah, but how

Also is it possible to recycle those space junk?

[inland mauve]

if aliens ever find us they're going to crash after a collision with the third stage of Apollo 14 or something

[finite steeple]

The human element begins here! Martian housing, anyone? 👩🏻‍🚀🚀🪐
https://youtu.be/8paE6tdA0JU?si=vM0t6rMYNONiaTLw

[wise jay]

lol git gud aliens

[golden stream]

Ngl, fair
Tho crashing at the Sputnik is even funnier

[wise jay]

https://tenor.com/view/cucaracha-movie-live-action-terra-formars-alien-gif-18323794

[golden stream]

LMFAO
At least we found water resevoir on Mars

[sly elk]

12km underground yes

[golden stream]

One of the issues of Mars rn is too thin atmosphere unless we blow up the artics to create cloud and thicc enough atmosphere

[wise jay]

If we find a pyramid on Mars we gotta make sure to NOT send cockroaches ahead of us

[golden stream]

Send waterbear instead

Like, those ARE literally roach of microorganism

And at least they're cute

[wise jay]

https://tenor.com/view/tardigrade-water-bear-swimming-moving-vice-gif-15363433

[golden stream]

Actually, speaking of probe, is New Horizon send any worthy after Arrokoth?

[finite steeple]

Technology is more than the electronic kind. As a XIV healer-main who lives here, this is progress I'm damn proud to see. Rehabilitation is a healing process, afterall. 🫂❤️‍🩹🧙🏻‍♂️
https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2022/06/02/north-dakota-finds-success-re-thinking-prison-culture/

[golden stream]

Tfw applying Finland prison's spirit

[finite steeple]

"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons."
✅ Jetson's achievement!

[deep sapphire]

What’s going on here lmao

[wide hill]

power savings

[golden stream]

Legit what's going on

[deep sapphire]

https://youtube.com/shorts/q9fC-bkCGRs?si=RDnqQKNgEjURbkAA

AHHHHH

[inland mauve]

what the fuck is that

if your tablesaw looks like a Super Meat Boy level maybe something is wrong

[wraith agate]

Someone gonna lose a finger there

[golden stream]

Oyyyy is anyone know mac's High Sierra stuff, can I ask?

How to remove unwanted GRUB boot?

[deep sapphire]

no

[sharp star]

I just woke up to this holy shit lmao

I’m gonna give it a watch

Oh yeah this is bad, what the hell

We shouldn’t be doing this

[odd sand]

That's a definite possibility if the PBO power curve is different for 9000 series by default.

[golden stream]

Dw I fixed it

[dire viper]

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/14/google-antitrust-monopoly-ruling

[deep sapphire]

only issue is, what exactly are they breaking up

because they only have a monopoly in one key industry which is search

and IMO google only got that way because people are naturally lazy and just use what they have and are use to it

be interesting how they plan to address that, force them to spin off google into different search engines or what

[sly elk]

they are also enormous in web advertising

afaik that's where they get most of their income from

[deep sapphire]

oh duh yeah thats true

how did I forget that lmao

[sly elk]

it's not like they don't get income elsewhere

I think part of the problem is they're riddled with conflicts of interest

unfortunately it's the same way that apple and MS are

making a web browser and having the largest presence as an ad platform on the internet are kinda conflicting interests

if the web browser were to be made to benefit the user anyway

same with the operating system in a way

like in an ideal world I think the app store and the device/OS should never be operated by the same company

the end user device should always have the end user's best interests in mind

that rule gets violated pretty heavily, especially on devices like iPhones

where apple trusts 3rd party vendors with the walled garden eggshell approach

[deep sapphire]

plus as you mentioned with web browsing chromium based browsers make up over 80 percent of web browser traffic iirc

and with their upcomming changes

that could be damning

[sly elk]

except some of the 3rd party vendors are a little dubious and you end up with wild tracking mechanisms

or the occasional "it turns out this vendor made a trick that would get around iOS keeping 3rd party apps from constantly running the microphone" kinda shit that somehow apple's review team doesn't catch lol

[sly elk]

there are 2 hard parts though

which as much as I disagree with the notion that this should stop the ftc from breaking up google....

one is that chrome/chromium and android OS are not profitable since they're given out for free, therefore splitting them from google would make them fail

eg "google is a necessary evil for the good of society" kinda argument

[deep sapphire]

yeah but so was internet explorer when they faced antitrust litigation

sure its free but google ultimately has a backdoor goal here

[sly elk]

i'd argue that we should have public funding for web browser development. Not in a "official web browser" sorta way but a "development grants awarded to open source teams periodically" kinda way

[deep sapphire]

hell thats how the entire internet operates

we all hate ads and being tracked but nobody bats an eye when the shit they use costs nothing lmao

I see people whine about youtube ads like dude it probably costs them millions of dollars a day to operate

its the single largest bandwidth usage on the internet by far

[paper tusk]

maybe if the ads were more trustworthy than 30 minuet long podcasts (posing as ads), ai fake scams, and temu everywhere there would be less ad blocking on youtube

[deep sapphire]

that I agree

and advertisers need to relax their standards a little

[dire viper]

This is most of it

The biggest issue is what gets advertised imo

Google claims to have standards but they don’t

I’ve reported probably hundreds of ads I’ve seen and only a few have ever gotten removed

Like straight up ad links to websites that have IP grabbers

Or the deep fake ones that link to crypto scams etc

They don’t care, they’ve never cared, the only fein interest when the actual big advertisers get mad which they rightly should get mad

[inland mauve]

they really don't care, that is why the DMCA system is such a mess, Google just plays lip service to big advertisers and anything else doesn't matter

like what are you going to do, not use Google's services?

I use an adblocker but maybe I'll just get Youtube Red instead

[dire viper]

I have both cause ublock said it was still blocking trackers and stuff

When I got red those notifs stopped popping up

[deep sapphire]

I have youtube premium its not bad

plus having youtube music bundled for free is nice dont have to pay for another service

[lost python]

Imagine if Google made an actually useable YouTube music app

One that lets you shuffle and entire playlist and not just 30 songs of it which it also only does if you scroll to the bottom of the list first which totally doesn't take ages because YouTube only loads like 10 at once

And then you loaded the playlist and the entire site slows down to a crawl and eats 500tb ram

One of the biggest fucking companies in the world and they still produce complete bullshit. It's really magnificent

[wide hill]

what are they going to sue google out of? sue google out of money so it can be given to be making other alternatives?

[sly elk]

i mean they heavily use frameworks developed by people they refuse to hire because those developers can't be assed to grind leetcode lol

[wide hill]

make an another duckduckgo

maybe fund the ladybird browser project so we have an another browser competitive rather than just firefox

[sly elk]

you're getting at what I was saying earlier XD

i think there should be at least a few grants for funding open source browser projects

[dire viper]

Imagine if chrome went to Mozilla

They’re talking about also forcing them to sell chrome

[wide hill]

isn't the important part chromium?

if chrome would have been needed to be sold, someone would have to take up the development work?

"yeah lets just force google to sell chrome with 3.5 billion users to this random russian group"

[sly elk]

LOL

yea, I think it will take some time to come up with a plan if they're going to split google

if they were splitting by products there's: google workspace (sso) (gmail, docs, etc), google search, chromeOS, android OS, google play, youtube, waymo (self-driving cars), nest (cameras and home stuff)... and a number of other things

i think chromeos/android/chrome could all be part of the google workspace group

that's basically apple right there

[deep sapphire]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_gndYCM3CpM?si=si-KtQ5m5iRlO5Lw

[dire viper]

Waymo has been dead on arrival so far lol

[odd sand]

I think you're underestimating the metric fuckton of data they're gathering through everyone via Android, Google Pay, Youtube, Gmail, Nest (home automation) etc. and how they tune the algorithm can sway public opinion or trends.

[dire viper]

Also the cars constantly breaking the law is amusing

[deep sapphire]

I already corrected myself I am aware I just wasn’t thinking lol

[dire viper]

Waymo taxi tailgating and then making illegal turns down one way streets

[odd sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g

[dire viper]

I don’t think they understand just how complex a road network actually is

[odd sand]

Relevant.

[dire viper]

Especially in cali lol

Waymo in Bay Area

One way roads that are so steep you can’t see people and have to inch forward just enough

[pine thistle]

and being the main search engine, you can "accidentally" prefer websites with AdSense on them

iirc there was some internal emails that were leaked where some dude from the Ads team wanted the search team to remove some feature because it negatively affected the ads revenue

oh it was between the ads, chrome and search team, even worse lol

[sly elk]

not to mention gmail

lol have you ever wondered why amazon doesn't mention the contents of your orders in emails anymore?

it's because of gmail

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/amazon-order-email-confirmation-shipping-details-a9543966.html

[hazy frost]

When did Amazon stop doing that lol it still does for me

[sly elk]

ages ago

hmm interesting maybe i was wrong

[hazy frost]

I don’t use gmail for it anymore but I do get emails

[inland mauve]

okay we get it

you shouldn't let Hank get on your nerves like that

[pine thistle]

Is this patriotism but for your state? lol

[potent arrow]

@dire viper done school, and sold the drift car to the team. : D

surely this means ill drie responsibly now

[dire viper]

Time for monster trucks

[potent arrow]

Thinking about like....a brz.......

[dire viper]

Nah

I wouldn’t get an 86

The flat 4 is meh

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

For the price of an 86 you can get an M3

lol

[potent arrow]

IM NOT BUYIN A BEEMER

[dire viper]

You will buy a Porsche then

924S

[potent arrow]

NO

[deep sapphire]

I still dont care about north dakota

[dire viper]

Best car ever

[deep sapphire]

and I just woke up

[gritty belfry]

nuh uh

you drank coffee

[dire viper]

924S is the 924 with a detuned 944 engine

[deep sapphire]

aewis in tech

[potent arrow]

Bro thinks im posh enough to drive a fucking porche

[dire viper]

Which I think is a 3 LITER inline 4

[gritty belfry]

[potent arrow]

I want something I wont feel bad driving into a tire wall

[dire viper]

Yes but have you ever seen a fucking 3.0 4 cylinder

It’s a 4 cylinder with torque

[potent arrow]

smhhh

Im open for ideas

32k to play with

[dire viper]

Oh shit

[potent arrow]

might buy something older.............and shove mods into

[dire viper]

Honest to god there’s a lot of options

[potent arrow]

remember, canada

[dire viper]

If you want JDM you could get a hero car

Cause Canada doesn’t have the same lame import restrictions

[potent arrow]

👀

[dire viper]

Could get a fucking Toyota Century V12 lmao

There is a place in Canada that imports them

Canada autocorrected to CAD what

My phone is insane

[potent arrow]

Kinda want something that I can bring to cars and coffee

[deep sapphire]

also thats a funny comment I made

[potent arrow]

but also be mean enough that I can put show offs in their place

[deep sapphire]

everyone there are meth addicts

🤣

completely rotted out ford ranger

"eh bud you got a 20 on ya I just need to make it to my baby girl's trailer"

im your neighbor in Minnesota, I know a lot of people from there

when you live in a state of nothing and its cold as shit

no thanks

[dire viper]

Also I think Skyline GT-T’s also aren’t that expensive in Canada

Consider that a GT-R costs 250k USD and a GT-T costs like 20-30k USD

[deep sapphire]

I dunno who you are preaching too anyway this came out of literally no where lol

[dire viper]

GT-T has one less turbo and is RWD

[deep sapphire]

yeah but the difference is people actually live here

🤣

anyways

any good TECHNOLOGY stories

[potent arrow]

the school and my sponsor, me selling my civic and my project car giving me neough money to buy a dream car

"dream"

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUk7rfY5KQQ

alright more zen 5 drama

[potent arrow]

...........purple candied GT-T.......

............now this is an idea

[deep sapphire]

honda accord

[potent arrow]

...........

[deep sapphire]

I literally dont care and I dont even know who you are

[potent arrow]

dude

[deep sapphire]

you brought this up

[potent arrow]

what are you

[deep sapphire]

over a comment I made a month ago?

LMAO

[potent arrow]

What is happening rn hank

[deep sapphire]

I DONT KNOW I JUST WOKE UP

[dire viper]

On hydraulics, lowrider

[inland mauve]

this is getting weird

[potent arrow]

Its already weird

[deep sapphire]

im tempted to rule 4 him over his constant political banter

[dire viper]

Or however

Sarah

[deep sapphire]

specially when it came out of left field

lmao

[potent arrow]

Imma just say drop the weird patriotic talk and stick to tech for here on out

[dire viper]

Consider an E46 330i ZHP coupe

[inland mauve]

I feel like I'm watching a tourism ad for North Dakota

[dire viper]

M3 without the M3 engine lol

Wide body and all

Same suspension components and brakes

[inland mauve]

or like a Twitter account trying to convince me to move to North Dakota

[sharp star]

You know he's not gonna sleep with you right

[dire viper]

M54 engine can also be supercharged for like

[potent arrow]

Im gonna put christian in jail for SUGGESTING ME A BEEMER

[dire viper]

Yes

But the ZHP is so good

It’s literally an M3 without the S54

[potent arrow]

JAIL

[dire viper]

So you don’t have and engine that costs 30k to replace

It just cost like 2-3k to replace in the 330i

[dire viper]

Also this

2k for a supercharger kit including the supercharger

The one for my car is 10k :)

[odd sand]

I would hope a supercharger kit has a supercharger with it or it's not really a supercharger kit is it /s

[dire viper]

A lot don’t actually

They just have the stuff to put it on the car

A lot of the BMW kits are like that

The E46 330i specifically has 20+ kits for all kinds of superchargers cause they use superchargers that came on other cars so they are super cheap

[modest moss]

@finite steeple Please keep politics out of this server

[dire viper]

Can get some of the superchargers for like 500 bucks and a rebuild kit is like 100 bucks

You now saved like 3k on a new supercharger

[potent arrow]

AAAAA

[dire viper]

You are not immune Sarah

[potent arrow]

I am immune

[modest moss]

@finite steeple did you have a question? was there confusion about what I said?

[potent arrow]

that would look terrible in purple

[wraith agate]

Everyone is immune to BMW

[deep sapphire]

they are immune to using the turn signal indicator

[wraith agate]

That true, god damn them

[deep sapphire]

W-WHAT THE FUCK WHAT ARE THESE BLINKING GREEN ARROWS

[wraith agate]

Using turn signals give BMW drivers flat 2d8 psychic damage

[dire viper]

They actually look good

Techno violet 330i Wagon

[potent arrow]

BMW PROPAGANDA

[odd sand]

I sometimes wonder if it's intentional or if they don't realize how cringe they are 😩

[deep sapphire]

yeah im not giving them 20 bucks to fill up their 94 ford ranger

[dire viper]

Techno Violet M3 Competition Package

[potent arrow]

hAUGHHH