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deep sapphire
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but I bet most people will just put cheap shit on instead

dire viper
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yea

deep sapphire
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they probably use 6 piston brembos im guessing

dire viper
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its actual brembo discs and pads

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yep

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brembo stuff is actually fairly good

deep sapphire
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"well these dorman 2 pistons are only 60 bucks can you put those on"

dire viper
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lmao

deep sapphire
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brembos are great, just expensive yeah

dire viper
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when I swap my brakes im gonna upgrade to an aftermarket kit cause I know the brand is good from experience and its like 400 dollars cheaper than OEM so

deep sapphire
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thats just the cost you have to pay if you want performance shit

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finely machined slotted brake rotors, 6 piston brake calipers and probably some crazy brake pads yeah

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shit aint gonna be cheap

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plus your tires go to mush after 20,000 miles

dire viper
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the E46 M3 just has really weird sizing so its just cheaper to get a power stop kit for 550 for full front and rear instead of paying 350 for one axle

deep sapphire
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and lets be real the average hellcat owner which they were approved for at the age of 22 probably doesnt care about spending the money to keep those in spec

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550 is cheap

dire viper
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plus you get drilled and slotted rotors for 550

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which is pog

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when I get to that point im probably just gonna buy rebuild kits for the brakes and pull them apart and have them zinced

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get crazy yellow zinc so they look cool for the 3 months they will be shiny yellow Smile

dire viper
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same with audi and bmw buyers

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if you actually dig for parts you can get stuff for cheap

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ECS tuning is surprisingly very reasonable for parts

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probably cause of the volume they do

deep sapphire
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brakes is one of those things nobody cares about and its like

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well thats what is gonna kill you lmao

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stop cheaping out on safety people

dire viper
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yep

deep sapphire
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even in my old shitbox I put heavy duty brakes on and upgraded the terrible factory master cylinder with the newer GMT800 one

dire viper
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turner motorsport has a kit for my car that is Bilstein B12's and Eibach springs for 1k which the individual struts and springs cost 1600 by themselves

deep sapphire
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and it saved my ass cause 3 weeks ago someone slammed on their brakes on the highway and I was able to stop in time

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even with no ABS

dire viper
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B12's are the most aggressive road dampers they make

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
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bilsteins are always the best way to go if you got the money

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nobody makes a better shock

dire viper
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my ABS hasnt kicked on once even under super hard braking, like you have to be basically breaking the brake pedal for it to kick on cause it has stability control which is very aggressive

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BMW M Dynamic Stability Control which was the same shit they used in the actual race cars at the time, E46 based

deep sapphire
dire viper
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I mean

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you can get a kit from them for a Cuda that makes it drive like a brand new AMG

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which is awesome

deep sapphire
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yeah

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im surprised nobody has attempted to make an aftermarket kit/controller for magneride

dire viper
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probably cause its not worth it

deep sapphire
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magnetic dampers for a classic car would be pretty sick

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Aftermarket :

Tesla Model 3 (AWD,RWD)
Tesla Model y (AWD,RWD)
GWM TANK 300
Mercedes Benz W447 V class & Vito
In the aftermarket, Cosmarto[20] is the only supplier of intelligent suspension systems with a complete MRF+MRD+ECU+SW technology chain, and produces a small number of models, supported by several professors.

Cosmarto is also becoming well known in the global tuning market, especially for its Tesla Model 3/Y comfort and handling, and its sales representative, N2003 Auto Parts, has gained a good reputation for its good service attitude.

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oh there is an aftermarket solution

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probably stupid expensive

dire viper
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I want an S class

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Maybach S550 🧎‍♂️

hazy frost
deep sapphire
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that is a sexy hammer

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but it costs 300 bucks

cold yacht
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Imagine having abs

deep sapphire
cold yacht
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It is funny a bit when I drive other peoples cars and they have a lot of safety features

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Meanwhile the fancy thing in my car is cruise control

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Back up camera do sound nice though

deep sapphire
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you can buy aftermarket head units with them but you gotta wire it yourself obviously

dire viper
deep sapphire
dire viper
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but y

deep sapphire
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because people want nice tools

dire viper
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yea but its titanium

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when you are mar it or destroy it is just junk

deep sapphire
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yes nice and light

dire viper
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plus less mass to do the hammering thing

deep sapphire
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its a finishing hammer

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its not meant for hard striking

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for that you would use a deadblow anyway

dire viper
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then get brass hammer

sly elk
modern iris
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So anyone who uses a Wacom- how do you get your nibs to last longer?

pine thistle
wide hill
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chatgpt on nvidia overlay, whilst having microsoft copilot chatgpt

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every app needs their own chatgpt client now

golden stream
# modern iris So anyone who uses a Wacom- how do you get your nibs to last longer?

Depend on your model and your preference
Some third party nibs may be more durable (i.e metal nibs, only use WITH surface protected film)
If you have a screen tablet and don't mind the slippery, just yoink the screen protector film out, better color and nib will never wear down (down side is absolutely no ring no bracelet in avoid screen scratching, as glass should withstand plastic well, not metals)

wraith agate
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I don't need any of your AI garbo, corps

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piss off

golden stream
potent arrow
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Fuck that

sly elk
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gaaaaaaahhh!!!!!!!

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I've been using windows again on my pc the last week or two because an update broke linux in a way and combined with my stupid samsung monitor i can't see what the fuck is going on XD

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and uhhhh

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I HATE THIS AND NEED TO GO BACK lol

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maybe i can get a small screen to fit under my big one

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also finger sliding on my guitar doesn't feel right

sly elk
potent arrow
sly elk
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I can't even find a dealer that names a price, but they go used/mint for $8000+

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FOR A DAC

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yhea no shit this is bored rich people with good lawyer territory

modern iris
sly elk
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i hesitate to buy another monitor though. I already have... a lot of monitors

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if i could turn my surface pro into a monitor it'd be perfect

sly elk
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that is friggin adorable

sharp star
pine thistle
wraith agate
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the corporations can eat my ass

glossy ravine
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How often should thermal paste on cpus be replaced

hazy frost
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Whenever thermals are becoming an issue

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If it ain’t broke don’t fix it

signal fable
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but like waffle said when you see that you are having thermals problem change it

dire viper
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Cars and coffee is kinda awesome today

hazy frost
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Nice

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Wish smaller local car shows were still a thing in the UK

dire viper
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280SE slammed. This one is mint so it’s probably worth 130~160 range

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It has the original paint

potent arrow
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oh fuck

modern iris
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So are the eSports people about to start banning Razer peripherals?

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that sounds kinda broken

cold yacht
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Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr make it standard owocarby

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Need bit more chaos in esports

golden stream
pine thistle
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For the intuos pro I think you can also change the surface to a softer one

golden stream
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I just heard the news of Samsung Fold6 release
Me look at le features: EZ SKIP
Ngl if you have Fold5 or not like AI schizzo, ez skip

hazy frost
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Have they even fixed the bad glass creasing on the fold yet

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As far as I was aware it still happened too quickly

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Upgrading every gen is stupid for phones

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There’s a difference between each generation but usually unless ur 2 or more behind then it’s not worth the upgrade

golden stream
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Drawing experience on fold5 is eh

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Itz ok not too bad but better not draw on the crease

hazy frost
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i always found them cool but the creasing means id never buy one

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is it covered under a multiple year warranty or anything

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phone market rn for me is just in general super disappointing

golden stream
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Dunno tho

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Eh imo this gen is meh, ez skip all

hazy frost
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i always buy last gen anyway lol

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i just ordered a new phone after 8 years

golden stream
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I'll see when iphone gets a stylus I may consider switch haha

hazy frost
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choices are mediocre

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iphones are the only ones with the premium camera on the 6.1" phone

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the android options all require the 7" phone for the high end camera

golden stream
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Oh I got my 1TB fold5 for 250GB price in last black friday HEHEH

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I'm ok w eh camera as far as there is stylus

hazy frost
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i got the iphone 14 pro for £800

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256gb

golden stream
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Me handwriting note a lot

hazy frost
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yeah

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i mostly care about camera and battery

golden stream
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And I just hate Apple Pencil and ipad is sometime a bit too big for my liking

hazy frost
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and can only deal with the standard phone size

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so apple still my go to

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my favourite phone would be the pixel 8 pro if it was smaller

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but it isnt

golden stream
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My note10+ is still stonk, hyper power saving can last me for days haha

hazy frost
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lol

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i mean the camera on the 14 pro/s23u/pixel 7 pro is insane

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so i wanted one of those

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and apple certified refurbished is a good deal

golden stream
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But ye I don't like too big screen, but I do like some screen estate for handwriting tho

hazy frost
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google and samsung dont rly do that

golden stream
hazy frost
hazy frost
golden stream
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The fold is like wat 250g

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Not count the case

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And my fold5 + case + accessories would hit 300+g

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But from last gen/current gen to next gen, I don't see any point for it atm

hazy frost
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out of what i can afford brand new the 14 pro had the best camera

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so went with it

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cant afford a s24 or pixel 8 anyway

golden stream
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Ye.....

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also the exynos

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BRUH

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Luckily my phones are all snapdragon so at least still ok battery

hazy frost
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damn pixel 8 pro is £700 new rn

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too bad its huge

golden stream
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Like, I don't want too huge phone if they not have stylus

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Tfw am considering getting a smol iphone just for vtubing and some light footage taking LOL
Not like my android couldn't tho

hazy frost
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lol

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idk why no one makes 6.1" phones with the nice camera

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seems crazy to me

golden stream
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the other reasons are GarageBand and parental control LMAO

hazy frost
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i mean apple mostly does

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but no one else

golden stream
hazy frost
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idk WHY its niche tho

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seems crazy that everyone is ok with 7" phones

golden stream
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U know wat
Smol phone, decent camera, gud shite DAC for audiophile
I want that

golden stream
hazy frost
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yeah

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i want good camera with a decent battery in a size i can use one handed

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also somehow even google with arguably the least bloated version of android manages to get terrible battery life

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have to hand it to iOS for being efficient mostly

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what i do not like is having like 0 file management in 2024

golden stream
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Their file management SUCC

hazy frost
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yeahh

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but like apple having better battery life with a significantly smaller battery is always funny

golden stream
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I mean android has their share of sucky but hey they let you to copy your stuff to PC with ease

hazy frost
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and better performance with half the ram

golden stream
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Ngl if compared to my fold5 usage on my note10+, it drains p fast but then again I listened a hella lot vchuba streams/vods

hazy frost
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lol

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my iphone X gets between 1.5 and 4 hours of screen on time depending on what i do

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mostly used at 50% brightness

golden stream
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I use somewhat between 0 to 100%, mostly at uh, 20-40%??

hazy frost
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yeah new phones ill sit at 50% all the time

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dont need 1200 nits my phone maxes out at like 800 lol

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i can have same experience at like 80% on a new phone

golden stream
hazy frost
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but i also live in england so thats like 2 weeks of the year

golden stream
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SEA here, it's like Hell's Lid during summer

hazy frost
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yeah its pretty bad in summer these days here

sly elk
hazy frost
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But like the s24 doesn’t have a great camera compared to the s24u

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Even the plus doesn’t have the best camera which is a bigger one

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Please SOMEONE make a smaller phone

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The fact apple is my only actual option is insane

deft radish
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hola

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I came here to see if the tech support could help me with the benchmark

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since figured out that i could get a better help here probably

modest moss
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what kind of help do you need?

deft radish
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hmmm, I think the word im trying to say is... optimizing, to see if there's a way to make the make run smoothly when i really get to dawntrail and back to ffxiv

modest moss
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what hardware do you have?

deft radish
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AMD

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wait...

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AMD Ryzen 3 3200 G

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with also vega

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Yeah, I think that's it

modest moss
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I'm not sure that even meets minimum requirements now

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nope, you'll be lucky if it runs at all

deft radish
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hmmm, I knew the light not working properly wasn't a good sign : (

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And I had good hopes with apex actually running smoothly in here too

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guess i'll have to get another one if i want to play the game then

modest moss
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like, you can try it on minimum specs, but I wouldn't expect much

sly elk
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vega's better than an rx480

modest moss
deft radish
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There was a bit lag, and just some lighting stuff as I said

modest moss
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try medium

sly elk
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ok I think the reason the latest fedora 40 broke my pc is... the nvidia driver... it just has to be lol

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what else is gonna cause a black screen at boot?

deft radish
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Yep, it changed nicely!

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There was just some small lag in the more flashy parts but now the lighting problem was gone

sly elk
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yea it's like
rx 7/65xx+ > rx 5600/5700 > radeon 7 > vega 64 > vega 56 > rx480/580

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the rx480 was a $200 budget card that came out in 2017 lol

modest moss
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to be fair, that screenshot looks awful

deft radish
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Oh, its because of the standard graphics really looks like that lol

sly elk
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time to get a new gpu?

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3200g is rough though

deft radish
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Yeah, when I have the chance

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But for now i don't know if it is necessary since the only game showing this sort of issue is ffxiv

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mostly cuz I don't have lots of games that have high resolution or high graphics : P

pine thistle
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tbh it's not like ffxiv has super crazy graphics either

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it's still a 2013 game

deft radish
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yeah, ffxiv is not even close to being a Elden Ring for sure XD

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so yeah, for now it is fine

modest moss
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it's not really a 2013 game now

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more like a 2018 game after the update

deft radish
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true, true

sly elk
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yay fixed linux, just needed to update myu stupid nvidia driver and then it booted fine again

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woot

inland mauve
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Linux didn't boot because of a bad driver?

sly elk
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sounds familiar doesn't it? XD

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in this case I believe it DID in fact boot, I never tried sshing into it lol

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but the driver was hosed so all I saw was a black screen

lethal dune
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I need help

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With PC build

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I found out that the RAM I got is for Intel

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And I have an AMD card

royal forge
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i'm surprised PC part picker didnt throw up an error

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@lethal dune Yea, the case you can take ur time tbh

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its not TOO big an issue

lethal dune
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My friends said that the RAM is fine

royal forge
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another thing to take note

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is that ur using a microatx

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mobo

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and an ATX case

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unless ur plan is to use a microatx case

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in which case, ur GPU might be a cause of headache

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im not knocking on microatx mobos

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but having built a microatx in an ATX case before

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it DOES look empty

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which annoys me

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but im an idiot that way

lethal dune
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I was thinking like

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Buying a PC case where I cannot see it

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I ummm

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Sensitive to lights

royal forge
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oh

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hmm

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i think.. most cases nowadays has a glass side?

lethal dune
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I might ask Mr store man when I go and get my mobo

royal forge
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and u gotta make sure u have case fans too

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as in, the case COMES with case fans

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and how many

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sometimes they give just one

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which i nearly fell for

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fucking slapped that bitch

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Theres also the matter of usage

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gaming

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3d

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video editing

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4070 is good either way

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but, for example, since I like to do 3D rendering as a hobby

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i got a 3090

lethal dune
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I was thinking of getting 4070 super cause I heard good things from it

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And is the best one so far

golden stream
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Well it's ok card though

royal forge
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ye ye, not knocking it

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just, ya know

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OPTIMIZATION

golden stream
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Ngl I would get the Ti if I could but can depend on your wallet

royal forge
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Just get a 4090

golden stream
golden stream
royal forge
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And i can smack large scenes nicely

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But i DO wish i could have afforded a 4090

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But...

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Ya know

golden stream
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I mean also the price as well

royal forge
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THAT SHIT IS EXPENSIVE

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That and the cable burning bollocks

potent arrow
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connector

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not cable

royal forge
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Yea. That.

golden stream
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at least the 3xxx is still cheaper if you don't need too much bell and whistle

royal forge
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And if u pick up a few from exmining rigs

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Its not hard to setup render farms

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I wont, cuz

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Ya know

golden stream
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yeah that infamous connector

royal forge
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Im not THAT crazy

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Viy, buy me 2 4090s

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Thanks

golden stream
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nyeh

royal forge
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I'll take that as a yes

golden stream
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me $ for simping haha

royal forge
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LMAO

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Vtuber simp 👏

golden stream
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Oy HYTE vtuber collab cases are nice

royal forge
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It is...

sly elk
royal forge
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The ame one

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But its too flashy for me

golden stream
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the 60 lineup is gud

royal forge
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Fuck. That reminds me

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Ame pop up

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I already PO-ed Ina's but no stock yet

golden stream
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And apparently HYTE has at least a few Vtuber simps in their corpo which is based

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I plan to get a HYTE system for streaming (w11) while my main is linux gaming and stuff uwucarby

sly elk
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heh

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mmm

golden stream
sly elk
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color correcting in a dark room doesn't make much sense either

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hnng fedora 40 feels so much faster than win11 on my machine

golden stream
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it's fine somewhat

sly elk
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it's kinda funny because this is a 7800x3d with 64gb ram

golden stream
sly elk
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and win11 is on a pcie4 ssd while fedora is on a pcie3 ssd

golden stream
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still fedora much faster

lethal dune
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About to return my RAM in a few days

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Because I was lied about the package

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I thought it was for AMD

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It was for intel

sly walrus
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… ram is ram

lethal dune
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It’s a Corsair RAM

sly walrus
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it’s not “for” anything

sly walrus
lethal dune
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I’m more worried it ain’t fit the AMD CPU

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Because it’s an intel one

sly walrus
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ram doesn’t care about what cpu you’re using

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different cpu doesn’t change the ram slot

sly elk
lost python
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all this means is that they got money from intel

sly elk
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yeeeup

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you can safely use and overclock xmp ram on an amd machine, and use/overclock expo ram on an intel machine.

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idk if the pre-cooked profiles will show up in the uefi settings though

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-shrug-

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like if it doesn't cost anything to switch, go right ahead. but if you get a better deal on one vs the other

golden stream
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In nutshell, memory/ ram doesn't care much about cpu at all for basic stuff

hazy frost
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So it doesn’t even matter if it’s branded for the ‘right’ cpu

golden stream
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Tfw I have 40GB memory and still work fine haha

hazy frost
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I had my first 32gb Corsair kit just stop working within 4 weeks for ddr5

golden stream
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also if no need of overclock, stock is totally fine

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me undervolt team haha

hazy frost
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I don’t even bother touching ram or cpu on am5 anyway

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Enable PBO and forget about it

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UV if anything

golden stream
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cheaper btw

hazy frost
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Anecdotally it’s the one I’ve had way too many issues with

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As have people I know

hazy frost
golden stream
golden stream
hazy frost
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It’s not expensive to buy ddr5 either anymore

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32gb kits are like £80

golden stream
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SFF build has limited choice of ram if want short height ram tho

hazy frost
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Which is in line with the price of current gen CPUs using it

hazy frost
golden stream
hazy frost
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I hadn’t upgraded since like 2017 so

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I needed a new platform anyway

golden stream
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planning in converting my stuff to either NAS or minecraft machine for my cousins

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Should I get DDR5 or wait for DDR6?

hazy frost
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DDR6 is close so if u don’t need to upgrade soon I’d just wait bc worst case ddr5 will be cheaper even if ddr6 is too expensive

golden stream
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yeah I don't really need to upgrade right now, even OG LCD steam deck is plenty

inland mauve
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crazy that DDR6 is close

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my current build is DDR5 and the one before that was DDR4

hazy frost
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DDR6 is coming much faster than DDR5 did

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It’s a few years sooner

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It’s like ddr4 is still viable now tho so anyone with a ddr5 build shouldn’t rly care

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Unless u have a lot of money and need it for work to stay at top performance

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But that’s 1% of people

inland mauve
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oh no I'm good for years with this rig

lost python
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ddr6 is planned for 2026

golden stream
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I'm ok with my current setup, even my DDR4 laptop is hella plenty

inland mauve
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I don't think I'll need to consider upgrading until like 2028 or so, depending on how tech advances in the next few years

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what kinda speeds are we looking at with DDR6?

golden stream
lost python
golden stream
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ngl I'm not that hype for DDR6 but kinda interesting in Intel ARC

hazy frost
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DDR5 will probably get stable at faster speeds on the CPUs coming out rn as well

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Hopefully

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Bc there’s already kits well above 6000 and some CPUs u can OC well on way above that

inland mauve
lost python
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highest possible is allegedly 21000

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but lets see how it will be in reality. its still far from done yet

inland mauve
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21000 angieuwu

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if they can pull that one off the gens of CPUs that support DDR6 are going to be insane

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I hope they won't also be insanely unstable

lost python
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it likely will be

sly elk
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corsair will replace it

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I had xmp ram die on me before and they replaced it

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(that implies, yes, I did use the xmp settings and oc it)

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corsair replaced a 4.5 year old AIO cooler for me too, when I complained that a few of the RGB LEDs were burned out and it wasn't displaying colors correctly anymore

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admittedly they made me pay for shipping to FRIGGIN GEORGIA from california on that one >< it cost like $35 iirc 😦

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it was worth it i guess, they gave me a new unit to replace the old one

hazy frost
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So I just replaced it and got on with what I had to do at the time

royal forge
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I am an exceptionally stupid boi who doesn't know how to compile shit

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Is there anyone who does programming, mind helping me compile a github zip

royal forge
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Never mind

inland mauve
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oh man

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a colleague linked me to a Twitter thread explaining what went wrong with the CrowdStrike update

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basically it was a null pointer caused by the driver trying to read a memory address that Windows has strict access control on

lost python
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is it the nonsense one or is it the real one

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oh it was the nonsense one

inland mauve
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I thought the thread was a bit weird and the writer kind of up his own ass

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but I didn't think a whole lot of it until I got to the tweet that started off with "If you are looking for conspiracy theories..."

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and then went into how the replacement language for C++ is Rust, and it is compromised by woke

inland mauve
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honestly with how up his own ass this guy is, it wouldn't surprise me

lost python
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full os mistakes and assumptions that others pointed out but the OP is basically "im right because i am a professional"

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here is an example of one of the many people who pointed out whats wrong with this guys analysis
https://x.com/taviso/status/1814762302337654829

This strange tweet got >25k retweets. The author sounds confident, and he uses lots of hex and jargon. There are red flags though... like what's up with the DEI stuff, and who says "stack trace dump"? Let's take a closer look... 🧵1/n

inland mauve
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oh boy

sharp star
inland mauve
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Aoi?

sharp star
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No

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The American LARPer

inland mauve
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no

sharp star
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lmao because I found another thread that brought him up

inland mauve
#

conspiracy Twitter in full power on this one huh

lost python
#

its just so tiring

sharp star
inland mauve
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is the person who posted that nonsense thread a Malaysian LARPing as an American?

sharp star
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No, he replied to the screenshotted tweet Rob linked

royal forge
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MALAYSIA MENTIONED

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Wow. No meme malaysia gifs

inland mauve
#

my job is to remind everyone that the Netherlands exist

royal forge
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Smh

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American being out radicalized by malaysian

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Smh

lethal dune
#

What's the difference between ATX and Micro ATX

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Like the mobo

hazy frost
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Size

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And sometimes the smaller one will have like one less m.2 slot or something bc of size

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Otherwise not much

lost python
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or less pcie slots etc, which isnt a problem anyway unless you specifically need one extra outside of gpu

royal forge
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Maaaan

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I wish SLI was still a thing cuz people would spend big bucks and it'll still be jank

hazy frost
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4090 doesn’t support nvlink

lost python
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does SLI even still exist

hazy frost
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We had nvlink last gen

hazy frost
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U can have 2 3090s

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But not two 4090s

lost python
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and just like that i stumble upon some korean tech channel that slapped 4x 4090 with a 5995WX in one case

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that right there is enough money to pay off my remaining student loan and build me an entire new rig haha

potent arrow
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REAL

inland mauve
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it is my dream to one day build something like that

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even though there is no practical use case for it

lost python
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honestly, all this watercooling and cablemanagement sounds like a huge pain to me haha

inland mauve
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except for maybe if you want to render a Pixar movie at 1 frame per second

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yeah cable management is a pain

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and I am not good at it

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my biggest mistake with my current rig was to not buy a PSU that had a direct 12VHPWR connector

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just an oopsie-woopsie on my part there

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when I say "I want to build something like this" I mainly mean the aesthetic aspect of it

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if a game like PC Builder Simulator let you build something like this

frail nebula
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I feel bad for anyone running a 13th or 14th gen Intel CPU right now.

sharp star
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Yeah

lost python
sharp star
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An i5-13600K(F) and above is not fine, locked multiplier 13th gen i5s and below are fine (because rebranded Alder Lake), Alder Lake is completely fine, Raptor Lake Refresh is not fine (even the i3s and i5s)

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that's the the tl;dr for Raptor Lake

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Yeah I'm considering making a more in-depth pinned post on Raptor Lake

lost python
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do it

potent arrow
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I would just wait for Intel's statement and official coverage

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at least beyond, don't buy 13th/14th

sharp star
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Yeah

potent arrow
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I wouldn't buy 13/14th anything tbh, even stuff below the i5 just because it's probably gonna have issues down the line many years in the second hand market lmfao

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I don't trust it

sharp star
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Same

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I can't comfortably recommend Raptor Lake chips, nor do I have optimism for any sort of long-term fix

potent arrow
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there is no optimism

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it has to be a physical flaw

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I doubht anything beyond RMA will fix this garbage

sharp star
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Zen 5 coming up in nine days is also bad for Intel

potent arrow
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my worry is that next Gen Intel is going to have the same issue

sharp star
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god if Arrow Lake shits the bed

potent arrow
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you don't just spin up a new chip design in a day, idk how long they knew this was an issue

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so if it's a manufacturing defect lmao.

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from an integrator standpoint you can't convince me to buy Arrow lake out of the bat

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I'll wait a year or so before I do

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and I won't be alone on this

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so Intel is probably going to lose a good chunk of early adopters to this

sharp star
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When does Arrow Lake arrive? October?

inland mauve
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how worried should I be

potent arrow
inland mauve
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this is the CPU in my machine right now

lost python
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time for that 7800x3d sidegrade eyebrowshrug

potent arrow
inland mauve
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the only way I've really experienced CPU problems so far are with the sound buffer stuff when capturing app-specific audio

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and I was able to mitigate that by routing audio to two separate DACs to split it across separate tracks without having to capture app-specific audio

potent arrow
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you mean by migrating it off your cpu? bcaLOL

inland mauve
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ye

potent arrow
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I'm just saying, maybe be ready before it starts crashing

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lmao

inland mauve
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I have a backup system at least

modest moss
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my decision to build 12th gen i7 3 months before 13th gen came out has never looked better

sharp star
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lmao that was a bullet dodged

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I hope I can recommend Intel after Arrow Lake launches but for now my answer is gonna be a hard no

hazy frost
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Hopefully at a minimum the product improves with next gen

sharp star
#

Pricing is probably the least of their worries right now

hazy frost
#

It’s still a negative reason I wouldn’t recommend it

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Mostly the lower end CPUs are priced pretty badly

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Especially compared to AMD

sharp star
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If I were to recommend Intel, they'd be Alder Lake chips or the buyer is my worst enemy

hazy frost
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The only one I’ve recommended recently is the 12400f or 12600kf in the US when on sale lol

odd sand
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I guess the next question is: Will the supposed corrosion issues be present in the 15th gen chips they've been making preparing for the fall?

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Or is it only an issue bc they were ekeing out every last drop from the monolithic arch before they were ready for the switch at 15th gen? Kinda like how they were stuck on 14nm for 8 years or w/e due to the issues with 10nm

paper tusk
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if it's going to be through TSMC for first batch no

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if manufacturing returns in house all bets are off

potent arrow
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Im really hoping that we wont have memes in 15th gen

hazy frost
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a tempting purchase

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this car is beautiful, 2000s UK car culture unmatched

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no one puts playstations in their cars these days

compact pine
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So this is just any 13-14 gen ? pepehands

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I have a the i7 13700k but have had zero issues since I got last last year I think

deep sapphire
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I have a 13700K that has the problem

compact pine
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Ffs got damn

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I got it in September. So it's a high chance or.luck of the draw really?

deep sapphire
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If you have no issues I wouldn’t worry about it yet

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Nobody knows exactly what’s going on

potent arrow
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Yeah I'm not trying to fear monger or anything

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just be aware there is a weird looming problem with these two gens

wide hill
#

why tf does windows clock have a SIGN IN for a goddamn clock.
and the login expires, so you have to enter your microsoft password to login

wide hill
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basically this pops up immidiately if the login expires

hazy frost
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It’s well over what I’d pay for it now tho

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Richard Hammond sat in it and from a decen sized car YT channel so

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It’s gonna sell for too much

sly elk
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heheh

glossy ravine
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So I have this really bad ghosting/grainy look effect when I move the camera in ffxiv with my new montior? I'm not sure how to fix it. It's totally fine in my other montior.

muted spoke
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deep sapphire
deep sapphire
glossy ravine
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I had it set to 60. Tried the 59.number and it didnt fix it

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Tried taking a screenshot but. Doesn't capture the blur and whatnot

deep sapphire
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whats the highest refresh rate you can select

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was it that spectre monitor you listed a few days ago?

glossy ravine
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correct

deep sapphire
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I thought that was much higher like 144hz

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you should have it set to the highest available option

glossy ravine
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It would be out of sync with my other montior. Wouldn't that be an issue?

deep sapphire
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only if you were playing with surround, it shouldnt matter otherwise

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I use to have a 60hz monitor and 144hz monitor attached to my PC and never had an issue

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can you post the monitor you bought again

glossy ravine
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Updated. Fixed the ghosting issue

deep sapphire
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alright

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yeah 60hz seems way too low for a gaming monitor in 2024

glossy ravine
#

The colors dont match between each monitor though

deep sapphire
#

monitors use different panel technologies that can display colors differently, either that or you have the color bit rate set differently

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where it shows output color bit rate

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unless its really bad I wouldnt worry about it

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it should by default select 8-10 bit which is more than high enough

glossy ravine
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Kinda hard to tell with the photos but.

deep sapphire
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thats simply just how each monitor displays colors differently

glossy ravine
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(I used an AMD graphics card.)

deep sapphire
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the one on the right has a higher RGB value

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you can adjust it in your graphics card software

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I dunno what AMD calls it now, im so use to calling it catalyst lol

glossy ravine
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I assume that's Adrenalin?

deep sapphire
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yeah that

glossy ravine
#

God that's so weird having a 244hz monitor

deep sapphire
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you should see similar settings

glossy ravine
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It's almost too smooth.

deep sapphire
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look for vibrance or contrast settings

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tune them to your liking

glossy ravine
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Thank you Hank 🙏

deep sapphire
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np

glossy ravine
#

You're a blessing ❤️

deep sapphire
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😄

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glad to help

sharp star
glossy ravine
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Turns out I prefer cooler temperatures on my lights. Neat

deep sapphire
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Most displays will have a built in menu where you can adjust color temperature as well, some will even have a mode to reduce eye strain using warmer hue

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It’s beneficial to use that at night before bed they’ve shown white/blue light really messes with your sleep quality

hazy frost
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Yeah using night mode on my phone was a good decision I made somewhat recently lol

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I think most people use their phone closer to the time they sleep than their monitor

deep sapphire
#

yeah I've been using Night Shift (thats what iOS calls it) before bed and I have noticed a big difference

hazy frost
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Yeah I have it come on at 10pm now bc don’t have to sleep as early

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Before I had it for 9

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So I got atl an hour of it before sleeping

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It definitely made a difference

deep sapphire
#

Okay I have a question how the fuck do you get VSR to work on non web content I’m getting sick of this shit VLC doesn’t work, MPC only works with HDR

hollow hamlet
inland mauve
sly elk
glossy ravine
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I have my blue light filter to go on at 9 pm

pine thistle
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wasn't the blue light thing disproven

golden stream
dire viper
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the maserati refuses to be fixed lmao

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does a whole engine out service with replacing half the engine, engine then decides to explode

dire viper
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sharp star
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but yeah it’s pain

sly elk
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a used 392 would probably cost more than the car is worth LMAO

dire viper
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eh

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392's are cheap

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cause not that great of an engine ngl

sly elk
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so are used maseratis especially with broken engines

dire viper
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yea but I wouldnt 392 swap

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its a fat engine

sly elk
dire viper
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compared to the skinny one in that Maserati

sly elk
#

then again

dire viper
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thats still a ferrari era Maserati engine

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so its based off of an actual lightweight V8

sly elk
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it'd be easier/cheaper to just buy something else that doesn't require an engine swap, like a used 7 series with a b58

dire viper
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yea but wheres the fun in that

deep sapphire
#

Thermal paste should last the life of the GPU

sly elk
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my thought was

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unlke an LS swap

deep sapphire
#

having it degrade after 2 years is pathetic

sly elk
#

a hemi swap might actually just bolt right in

deep sapphire
#

My 1070 lasted me 7 years and I never once had to repaste it

dire viper
#

afaik Maserati actually uses the engines as stressed members

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where as I can count on one hand how many US designed cars have done that and they start with Saleen and Hennessey

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so the engine sits on plastic pucks isolated but still taking the stress of the chassis flexing, rather than the engine being giving a lot of leeway in its movement

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392's flex the hell out of their motor mounts

sly elk
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ahh ok XD

dire viper
#

most of Maserati's design team was from Ferrari prior to their split

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the Ferrari California was originally going to be a Maserati

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then they split and so Ferrari had to make molds for aluminum body panels instead of steel ones for the Maserati design

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its why the early Calfornias are ugly lmao

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they had to make do with like 3 months worth of engineering time to make it work

deep sapphire
lost python
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i am so confused man

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i redid my wiring when i moved my desk around and since then i didnt have the issue anymore where my pc would just shut down by itself or not turn on.
since then i had my charger not work anymore at some random point though, however it worked on other outlets so i assumed one outlet of my power strip is broken.
but today again, pc wouldnt turn on.
so i was like "ok this surely means the PSU is dying", but at the same time, my mobo still gets power and has its RGBs on and everything that is connected to the PC gets power, including one of my charging cables... so maybe its the mobo after all?? or what kinda psu problem gives power to everything else but doesnt turn the PC on until i disconnect power from it and reconnect it

potent arrow
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wonder if its not grounded properly

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or even worse its shorted to the case

lost python
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definitely not shorting to the case

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but i wouldnt be surprised if asus had some issue. this board has been nothing but a piece of shit so far anyway

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i did contact the bequiet support now though, becuase in all honesty i am more likely to get help with my mobo even from them than from asus haha

potent arrow
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or something ont he board is shorted

lost python
#

then why does it only appear every 4-6 businessmonths

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primarily when the pc is turned off

potent arrow
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well thats why I suspect grounding issues, it would have many different random things that can cause it to act up. Weather, static, capacitors charge state when its powered down etc

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Maybe the board idle state is fucky too

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Grounding is like, the wildcard of issues

odd sand
#

Then make sure all the connectors are firmly connected to the board. If your PSU has one of those 20+4 split connectors, the +4 might be not down all the way, etc.

lost python
#

i did those things already

odd sand
#

Or if it has one of those 110/230v switches, make sure it's firmly in the correct mode

#

I'd say borrow a PSU from a friend to test, but if it's as random as you say, it might not show up in a day of testing.

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I had a PSU that the Caps started going on it, so I had a hard reset every once in a blue moon. Eventually 2 of them popped in spectacular fashion, and that was it for that PSU lol

#

Made 2 high-pitched whines followed by PYOOOOOOOOOOOoooo popping sounds back to back so yeah...

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Had that PSU for like 8-10 years tho, so can't complain.

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Which is ironic bc reading the reviews on them, they appeared to have a 50% failure rate in the first year. So I guess I got the golden sample

lost python
#

mine is 2 years old by now but i have a 10 year warranty on it so that shouldnt be an issue. i did contact the manufacturer already and asked them if they have encountered this issue before. maybe they will send me a new one to try

odd sand
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I had this magnificent chinesium beast. Tagan 700W from like 2008. Basically nothing else on the market had LEDs on the PSUs yet and very few case fans even.

lost python
#

oof

odd sand
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Unsurprisingly, they went out of business in like 2012 or so I think? lol

pine thistle
#

guess they were too early

odd sand
#

On the LEDs? Not really. Hard to stay in business if you have a reputation for failing within 1-2 years is more likely

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Haha wow, I didn't even realize they made cases and then sold the PSU with the case. Not a bad idea I suppose

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In that period when 180-200-220mm fans were all the rage

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Holy shit... is that like a 250mm even? That side fan is enormous...

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Found the specs:

330mm side fan

odd sand
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Oh please. It's like 10-15% can develop issues in a handful of the higher end skus, and also seems to be linked to using 700 series chipsets/DDR5. It's a big fuckup sure, but you can hardly say they have a widespread "reputation" for failure over many years.

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That said, they better suck it up and offer people stress-tested replacements.

inland mauve
#

depends on if the failure continues into the 15th generation

odd sand
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Indeed. I have to imagine they have their asses puckered doing validation testing on their current samples

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Big question mark on that since 15th gen is their first non-monolithic design. And is it a die shrink at the same time as well?

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Based on extensive analysis of Intel Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors returned to us due to instability issues, we have determined that elevated operating voltage is causing instability issues in some 13th/14th Gen desktop processors. Our analysis of returned processors confirms that the elevated operating voltage is stemming from a microcode algorithm resulting in incorrect voltage requests to the processor.

Intel is delivering a microcode patch which addresses the root cause of exposure to elevated voltages. We are continuing validation to ensure that scenarios of instability reported to Intel regarding its Core 13th/14th Gen desktop processors are addressed. Intel is currently targeting mid-August for patch release to partners following full validation.
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The article felt like astroturf, but we'll see eh

inland mauve
#

if that fixes the problem

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then that's grand

odd sand
#

If the microcode patch causes reduced perf, that will still be a bit shit for those ppl

inland mauve
#

sigh so be it

#

is this the new operating model?

odd sand
#

But taking them at face value, that it was "incorrect voltage requests" then theoretically it should have minimal impact

inland mauve
#

release a new CPU that is faster than anything but unstable, then patch it later which will cut performance but that's okay because you already got your money?

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I'll need to try out the patch to see if it really affects me in a noticeable way

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probably not tbh

odd sand
#

I'm more surprised it was also happening in 13th gen bc while those were kinda hot, they ran fine. 14th gen was them basically taking mostly the same thing as 13th and trying to crank another 2-300mhz out of them to the point even 360mm AIOs are borderline for the 14900K

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Reminds me of AMD's FX9950 was it? With the 230W TDP when the rest of their CPUs were half that haha

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Was a last gasp with piledriver or sledgehammer or w/e

deep sapphire
dire viper
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@deep sapphire the urge to buy this, straight pipe it and delete the waste gates on both turbos

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It’s a S550 with every box ticked minus a fully custom interior

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Non limo but not short wheel base

sly elk
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never touched one but i loved the use of circular connectors

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the shitty molex ones suck

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idk what it is about the molex but they have a tendency to cut my fingers

sharp star
#

Who Pays for the CrowdStrike catastrophe? If you believe their Terms of Service, not CrowdStrike. But that's not how the law of Gross Negligence works.

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deep sapphire
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"no yeah"

sly elk
# sharp star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byZHIoqi8oo

yea and no, I think a lot of places crowdstrike was being used were dumb places to use it X_X
But I also think crowdstrike's architecture sucks (armchair system engineer here) and I think their quality assurance AND deployment process was awful given the customers they were selling this to lmao

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like wow

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in mission critical software one of the reasons we do code reviews and have multiple people sign off on code, not that it's ever happened, is if you have a bad actor involved who decides to throw something malicious in, right?

potent arrow
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fuck

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actually fuck. lmfao

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13/14th gen is kill

sly elk
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I don't do the team amd/team intel crap but

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and it's funny because when I bought my 7800x3d I was joking around so hard about "I shoulda bought a 13900k but I decided to be dumb this time"

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WTF INTEL lol

sharp star
sly walrus
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brand loyalty is bullshit

sly elk
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idk about brand loyalty but I do sometimes exercise brand favoritism xD

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which is pretty much the same thing

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but i guess in a different way

#

brand favoritism when you buy a lot of that brand's crap because you like that crap :3

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brand loyalty when you walk into a store and buy brand x because you always trust brand x to make something good

odd sand
golden stream
sly elk
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I understand perfectly

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apple should add 'pencil' support to the iphone pros >>

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give me a reason to spend that kind amoney

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to be fair, it's not as fun drawing on a phone-sized phone

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i don't mind drawing on my fold4 when its unfolded though :3

golden stream
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The notetaking is hella helping tho
I do draw a lot on phone, just not as much as notetaking
Tfw apple misses a hella huge niche there haha

sly elk
#

funny you should mention that

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when I was in college i had a note 2, but getting a surface pro was like a huge change in note taking lol

#

at that point I had classes that were formula heavy though

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would've loved to have that all along!

#

except the surface pro gen 1 battery life was AWFUL

#

anything less than like 4-5 hours on a portable is just awful

golden stream
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If not accounting weak ass hardware, unable to expand, weird pen, it works well

sly elk
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and I think i usually got 2 on a good day, 1.5 otherwise

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but it was such a neat little machine to play with in 2013 lol

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when apple was like THOU SHALT USE A TABLET WITH A SINGLE LIGHTNING PORT

golden stream
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Iirc surface lineup still has meh battery life tho

sly elk
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and the surface pro was just a regular ass windows laptop crammed into the general shape of an ipad lmao

golden stream
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SEE

sly elk
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the experience was so bad but it was so good

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I ran code warrior on it and used it to program stuff in my embedded class rofl

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mostly with a bluetooth keyboard ofc

golden stream
#

It's both so bad (battery and stuff) yet so good (le pen)

sly elk
#

yea it was a very flawed product and that's why i loved it

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the pen was nice, the performance was decent, and you could do anything with it that you could do with a computer

#

just awful battery life

#

honestly I still have a soft spot for that sorta mindset

golden stream
#

There is still weird interaction w Windows Ink tho but eh should be fine I guess

sly elk
#

like

golden stream
sly elk
#

me personally i'd never use a roku for my own TVs

#

it's probably always going to be a random old computer

#

cuz I can make it do anything i want it to

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mmm maybe i should do a carputer in my jeep LOL

golden stream
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LOL do et

sly elk
#

there's just a level of control and fuck-it when you do that hahahaha

golden stream
#

I once put my rigs onto a shelf
Someone made a PC in a frickin toaster and even toilet

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the real deal btw, can game

sly elk
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but yea i do like my lil folding phone

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it also feels like a brick

golden stream
#

It is like brick + my case = real brick yesyes

sly elk
#

holy brick batman

golden stream
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Third party case btw, when it opens the crease will fold at the back, creates a nice flat

sly elk
#

i don't carry mine in a case at all lol

#

my 3 dailies: the fold4, the iphone 13, and an iphone 8 for work

#

work did send me an iphone 12 that I couldn't get activated haha

golden stream
#

How le case works

sly elk
#

one of these days i'll give enough fucks to go to el segundo and get their IT people to give me a token so I can use it

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lal lalalla

golden stream
golden stream
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LOL

sly elk
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company does give us choices of like, 2 year old iphones or new-ish low end samsungs

golden stream
# sly elk why both a fold5 and a note10

Got note10 for years, but only got fold5 recently, still in transitioning data but then I use note10 as well for some shenanigans as the account on le note10 isn't mine

golden stream
hazy frost
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I don’t think android flagships age as well except Samsung and maybe oneplus but still not as good

#

They may be better value at the price you buy them initially tho so there’s that

golden stream
hazy frost
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Especially pixel phones

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They’re an amazing deal new but the tensor processors are already only like 60% of the SD and bionic chips are

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And the battery life is already mediocre at best

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So I don’t see them lasting the 7 years Google promises updates for

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That being said they’re probably the android phone I’d go for rn anyway lol they’re just so cheap initially

lost python
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ah fuck yes my embody is coming tomorrow

hazy frost
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I had to sit at home waiting for my phone all day yesterday lmao

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I really should pay for a specific window for my deliveries

golden stream
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Like, my Note10+ is indeed showing its age a bit but for light/common task it's still just fine

hazy frost
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It was 8 years this year and def not usable

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My friends who get android flagships last like 4-5 before upgrading

inland mauve
torpid kayak
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friend wanna buy a 27 inch 1440p monitor for digital art making. Anyone recommends anything? :3

lost python
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budget?

torpid kayak
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let's say $300

torpid kayak
sharp star
lost python
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problem about the dell is that the color accuracy is ass before you calibrate it

sharp star
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Yeah

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It's still solid if you can live with manual color calibration

hazy frost
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Even then the g2724d is miles ahead and is basically a replacement

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I have the s2721dgfa and contrast sucks and colours are poor unless u play with them in the menu

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I’d look for an ASUS proart for digital art they’re on sale at the most reasonable price for that kind of thing normally

sharp star
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oh yeah that's probably better

hazy frost
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Everyone else who has a good one has it for a lot more money usually

sly walrus
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"i'm gonna give you a cup of coffee to fuck off"

deep sapphire
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Lmao the comments

wide hill
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uuh

wraith agate
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What

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For all they did

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$10 ubereats card and has been canceled too?

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Are they itching to get sued?

deep sapphire
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UUUUH AMD BROS!? INTEL AND AMD BOTH HAVING SHIT PROCESSORS ITS OVER

sharp star
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oh no

tame tartan
hazy frost
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Intels next gen might not be terrible anyway

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9950x is quite a lot better than the 14900k but I’d expect a similar uplift from Intel as well

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If there isn’t that’s just disappointing

deep sapphire
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the thing I find ridiculous is they totally scapgoated the corrosion issue lmao "it was already fixed" okay? well whats the fuckin date range cause just saying "2023" is pretty vague

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guess who bought an intel processor in 2023

sharp star
deep sapphire
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guess im gonna have to RMA it and use my old 6700K

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ol reliable

hazy frost
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The goat

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I had a uhh

deep sapphire
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slaps roof of... uuuh car or something

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I remember when intel sold processors that were well under their full capacity and were reliable as shit

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guess they forgot about that

hazy frost
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I can’t remember which laptop i7-6 I had

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But was OCd to like 4.4GHz boost

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Was funny and hot as hell

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Good times

deep sapphire
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I dont think intel will ever achieve the lightning in the bottle like they did with sandybridge

sharp star
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the play is still gonna be “wait for X3D” though

deep sapphire
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the 2600K was legendary

sharp star
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yeah

hazy frost
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I’m sure it was like a 6870hk

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I forgot the name

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Naming for the laptop ones sucks

deep sapphire
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a 3.0 Ghz processor able to achieve up to 4.7 GHz stable

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thats just fuckin insane

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1700 MHz OC stable

deep sapphire
hazy frost
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Back before Intel sucked

deep sapphire
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oh I just realized windows turned my desktop wallpaper black again even though I have a licensed copy of windows

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how did I just notice that

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I shouldve taken my ADHD meds

hazy frost
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lol

deep sapphire
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honestly its not the first time intel pushed things a little too hard

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they made a I think 1.13 GHz Pentium III

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and they all fried themselves after a couple months

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they had to do a recall lmao

hazy frost
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lol

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I mean AMD sucked for a long time anyway

deep sapphire
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A 1.13 GHz version (S-Spec SL4HH) was released in mid-2000 but famously recalled after a collaboration between HardOCP and Tom's Hardware[8] discovered various instabilities with the operation of the new CPU speed grade. The Coppermine core was unable to reliably reach the 1.13 GHz speed without various tweaks to the processor's microcode, effective cooling, higher voltage (1.75 V vs. 1.65 V), and specifically validated platforms.[8] Intel only officially supported the processor on its own VC820 i820-based motherboard, but even this motherboard displayed instability in the independent tests of the hardware review sites. In benchmarks that were stable, performance was shown to be sub-par, with the 1.13 GHz CPU equalling a 1.0 GHz model. Tom's Hardware attributed this performance deficit to relaxed tuning of the CPU and motherboard to improve stability.[9] Intel needed at least six months to resolve the problems using a new cD0 stepping and re-released 1.1 GHz and 1.13 GHz versions in 2001.

hazy frost
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So whatever Intel did was still better than that

deep sapphire
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yeah, AMD always had stability problems even back when they were considered good

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I had weird issues all the time on my Athlon 64 and X2

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same with my Phenom II

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I doubt it was the actual processor but their chipsets were hot garbage

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nvidia wasnt much better

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I dunno if you remember nForce

hazy frost
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I am not old enough to have owned those

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lol

deep sapphire
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ah, yeah nvidia use to make chipsets for AMD and Intel

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and then Intel kinda fucked them over so they only made chipsets for AMD for a couple years

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and they were hot garbage

hazy frost
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Most of my knowledge is from the more recent part of the 2010s since like 2014 I think

deep sapphire
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so they just stopped making them

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and AMD's chipsets came from tons of random brands until they bought ATI and then used their Xpress line which were also hot garbage but seems like AMD has figured out how to make a decent chipset again

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nvidia was also kinda weird in that if you wanted to use SLI the board had to have some special nvidia co processor on it

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I do not recall crossfire X requiring anything like that, im also trying to remember I think when they stopped making chipsets only intel boards could use SLI until the FX series AMD chips

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but CFX worked on both intel and AMD

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well "worked"

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ATI drivers were awful

hazy frost
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I didn’t remember that being a thing with all of them

deep sapphire
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So like 2009-2010

hazy frost
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Ah

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Yeah ok

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That’s basically where what I know starts

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I haven’t experienced anything before that first hand and have no reason to go back and learn it rn lol

deep sapphire
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Intel had a cool but pointless chipset called skulltrail that allowed you to use 2 Core2 series processors

sharp star
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Oh man Skulltrail

deep sapphire
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Skulltrail is an enthusiast gaming platform released by Intel on February 19, 2008. It is based on Intel's 5400 "Seaburg" workstation chipset. The primary difference between Skulltrail and Intel's current and past enthusiast chipsets is a dual CPU socket design that allows two processors to operate on the same motherboard. Therefore, Skulltrail ...

hazy frost
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Lmao

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Enthusiast gaming platform

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Is this like people who actually had workstation processors and used SLI for gaming

deep sapphire
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Biggest issue was Intel’s front side bus was rather slow compared to AMD so it didn’t work very well

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Yeah pretty much

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EVGA also had a cool board called the SR-2 that let you use 2 first gen i7s

hazy frost
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EVGA had a lot of cool stuff

deep sapphire
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Thing was a beast was a full E-ATX sized board

sly elk
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interesting

hazy frost
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didn’t EVGA make a lot of weird EATX boards over the years

sly elk
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i thought nvidia chipsets were supposed to be good

deep sapphire
sly elk
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and yes

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evga sure did make some weird shit