technology-discussion

[deep sapphire]

thats a lot of reading

[sharp star]

wait

[deep sapphire]

so they think it might be a latch issue?

[sharp star]

Is it really going back to the shitty mounting mechanism

[potent arrow]

now I wonder if that this party bracket will help with emr

it's definitely a possibility

[sharp star]

Welp

[deep sapphire]

well wait, if that was it then why isnt this impacting 12th gen

its the same exact pin out

[sharp star]

Now that you mention it

[potent arrow]

like he said it's just his theory, no data to back it up

I personally think there's some flaw in manufacturing

and all of this exasperated it more

[deep sapphire]

maybe its so many different things

thats why intel hasnt givin an answer

[potent arrow]

they probably don't know for sure as of now

[deep sapphire]

no intel isnt some evil company trying to sweep a problem under the rug

[potent arrow]

probably in the weeds figuring it out

idk why people think they figure it out in a day

[deep sapphire]

they have very intelligent people working there and probably want this solved just as much as we all do

[potent arrow]

not how rnd and engineering works

[deep sapphire]

r/ayymd users

[potent arrow]

not to mention they probably knew for a lot longer then we have

[deep sapphire]

being that CPU failure is extremely rare in general, this is a very abnormal situation

[potent arrow]

not only cpu failure for one, but a wide spread issue

haven't seen this since like.....

.......

Athlon....?

bulldozer? fuck

idk

my concern is how they are going to handle this

[deep sapphire]

for a desktop CPU? probably the PIIIs that were over 1GHz

they had a lot of failures and they recalled them

I dont think we've had any major failures like this

[potent arrow]

idk if they'll recall this

[deep sapphire]

oh well I guess the 7800X3D ordeal

[potent arrow]

impossible

[deep sapphire]

but that was solved quickly

[potent arrow]

yeah

[deep sapphire]

and AMD warrantied them no problem

[potent arrow]

this is bigger in scale and probally both motherboard and physical silicone issue

[deep sapphire]

they offered me an RMA if I needed it so I'll take it if it gets worse

[potent arrow]

not to mention like

second hand market is a minefield now

I'm also faced with the moral dilemma of letting my clients know

the ones with LTS warranties, I'm already out of pocket

when I have more capital I'm swapping them over to AMD

but general users I haven't decided yet

[proven oyster]

A techie wonder as i updated my nvidia drivers

When ther eis Disk Usage
That doesnt mean writing, it can also mean reading?

[pine thistle]

likely yes

[paper tusk]

my lottery ticket is that changeover to Intel 7 Ultra is causing voltage leakage that damages ring bus function. insulating gates was taken a back seat to max out the design, so that's why the bandage fix is to voltage/thermal limit in bios

would explain why i9's are coin flip defective out of box (more watts, more problems) while are i5's barely mentioned

[sharp star]

I'm starting to move away from Intel in general

If/when lower end Raptor Lake CPUs start to get affected is a chance I don't wanna take

[sharp star]

The weird thing is that Alder Lake is totally fine but I don't know how long that'll stay on shelves

[sharp star]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/noctua-responds-to-complaints-of-rattling-noise-affecting-its-new-nh-d15-g2-cpu-air-cooler oh no Noctua bros

good on Noctua to agree to refunds though

[wraith agate]

I see I see, thanks

[hazy frost]

I mean when u charge like $120 for a cpu cooler that performs worse than the $30 ones u better have good customer service

[lost python]

[inland mauve]

yeah it's a lot of money

but it's a purchase you make for the next 10-15 years or so

[lost python]

well the 12 year warranty on all parts will cover my ass i guess and if it lasts me those 12 years then 100€ per year for a very good chair aint that much

[inland mauve]

also funny that the gaming version is usually cheaper than the regular version

it feels like it constantly goes on sale

[lost python]

that and the gaming version is apparently comfier because of a slightly thicker padding

[inland mauve]

I bought it on sale

and my brother bought it on sale

it's probably one of those cases where the sale price is the real price

[lost python]

sucks that the 10% discoutn code from the regular shops newsletter doesnt work in their gaming shop

oh for surer

[inland mauve]

never tried the regular version but can confirm that the gaming version is very comfortable

my brother tried out my chair and he was immediately sold

[lost python]

HM apparently really upped the price during covid

[inland mauve]

and he is SUPER picky with chairs because he has a bad back

that's the most glowing review I can think of for a chair, if he likes it

[lost python]

yeah it was this or the aeron and so far i have heard from many people that the aerons hard sides are uncomfy if you got a big butt so i went with this now

steelcase leap is really solid too but i dont want thick foam seats, so they arent an option for me

[inland mauve]

as someone with a fat ass (and fatter pulls in dungeons) I can confirm that it has a very big seating surface

[lost python]

[inland mauve]

the seating surface can also be extended or retracted depending on how much support you want for your legs

[lost python]

also i cant wait to finally get the armrests out of the way for the guitar etc.
i dont have an actual chair outside of my office chair so playing it while sitting has been impossible lately

yeah

[inland mauve]

I'm the kind of person who is constantly moving his legs around so I like to have some freedom of movement

but my brother prefers a lot of support

[lost python]

i spent the past week watching and reading dozens of tests and reviews and longterm results

[inland mauve]

yeah the HM Embody is the Ferrari of the desk chairs, there's no denying that

it's less a matter of "is this the best chair" and more of "does it fit within your budget"

[lost python]

the only thing i am sad about is that the embody doesnt have the forward tilt. i like it for when i do art or work on something

[inland mauve]

true

and it doesn't have a head support

[lost python]

my budget rn was "will my back thank me in 10 years or not"

[inland mauve]

but that only matters when you're leaning back in it

[lost python]

well there is a really good third party one but its like 150€

[inland mauve]

sometimes when I need a break I flip the lever and just lean all the way back in the chair

[lost python]

i will see how i like it and then maybe order the headrest if i feel like i would like to have one

[inland mauve]

yeah that's a good idea

in the end I didn't get a headrest

didn't feel necessary

[lost python]

nicee+

i just hope they dont take the full 3 weeks to deliver.. also wtf do i do with my old chair, i dont have a car

[inland mauve]

demote it to clothes rack, that's what I do with old chairs

[lost python]

i dont like the visual noise that creates

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/slugcats-rain-world-crammed-gif-2045521780736842515

[lost python]

[inland mauve]

if you don't like visual noise then you'd hate my desk

[lost python]

no desk noise is fine, mine is chaos too

except my workdesk, that one needs to be clean inbetween projects

[inland mauve]

it's mostly that it's all cables

so many cables

[lost python]

actually same

monitor power supply, jabra station, notebook dock, KB&Mouse switch, shiit stack, focusrite scarlet, microphone, controllers, usb cables for tablet and controllers and charging cable and lamp and cables for my speakers and the display cables... so many cables... even more below the desk

[lost python]

but i have an excuse! one of my cables, idk which, is badly shielded so if i bunch them up, then it will randomly interfer with my USB devices and they will briefly disconnect at random times

[hazy frost]

Worth

All their chairs are great

My aeron is best thing I own honestly

[hazy frost]

Sell it cheap for collection only on Facebook/eBay or whatever

[lost python]

i hope the one i get is of the recent years and not squeaky like many people say it is

[hazy frost]

Even if squeaky they’re so comfortable I’d get over it

[lost python]

wont work because its like a 8 year old ikea markus and the cushions are nasty by now

[hazy frost]

It stopped me getting back pain at my desk whenever I sit for a couple hours

[hazy frost]

Burn it

[lost python]

id love to

[hazy frost]

Proper office chairs are the only good chairs tbh

Cheap office chairs and ikea stuff and gaming chairs all suck for posture and long term comfort

[lost python]

they arent all bad but even if they are comfy, they then usually suffer from quickly degrading materials

[hazy frost]

They’re mostly only comfy if u intend to sit for like an hour max

After that u start to notice the difference between a good chair and a bad/mediocre chair

Especially for ur back and posture long term

People be sitting hunched over like a shrimp anyway

[inland mauve]

at some point I bought the same chair I had at work

but it never sat as comfortably at home

was a slightly different model, too

[royal forge]

Maybe i must have butt subscribed to fillian

Which is odd, because this has happened 2 or 3 times now

[inland mauve]

what

[royal forge]

Where i've not even watched any clips/videos of a specific vtuber but suddenly am subbed to em on YT

[inland mauve]

oh filian

I know her only from that one time she was a guest on Uwo's Lab

she uses full body capture I think

he rebuilt that chat fried rice contraption and made her control it

it didn't go well, as usual

also Octopimp collabs with vtubers every now and then and whenever he does the stream immediately derails

I swear to God every vtuber has massive ADD

they're all like "oh look a bug", bless them for it honestly

[royal forge]

Just streamer brain

[lost python]

id like them a lot more if they would stop screaming all the time

its so tiring

[royal forge]

wrong vtuber choice

[lost python]

literally all of them are like that

[inland mauve]

if you want to watch a vtuber who isn't like that I can make you a few recommendations

[sharp star]

https://www.fractal-design.com/north-pi-3d-files/

[sly elk]

anyone buy anything cool on prime day sales?

[sly elk]

i wonder if it really covers all the parts. I need new casters lol

one of the translucent ones fell apart on me. hair gets between the hub and the wheel and eventually the wheel shears off the hub and won't go back on -_-

my chair's still holding up fine though

almost 5 years now

the upholstery sure does hold dust and dirt though

[sly walrus]

victrix bfg

aka the cooler xbox elite controller

[sly elk]

i remember my xbox 1 controller having hella hard vibration

i had to turn it off

gamecube controllers had the best because it was more of a tiny jolt lol

[sly walrus]

gamecube rumble also just felt good

[hazy frost]

Only thing I wanted wouldn’t get delivered soon enough lol

I’m going away next week so can’t have it come then

Waiting for Black Friday now

[wraith agate]

This will fit nicely with my deadpool boobs mouse pad

[odd sand]

Huh... interesting poster. https://i.redd.it/0wm696pd0a741.png

Didn't realize how close from a fuel perspective, Geo orbit and getting to the moon were. Obviously there is time involved between those transfers, butt still vodka

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/zqbelMcZdeQ?si=IrSWPYSi03DDPZ95

M8 is cool

big luxury grand tourers with stupid horsepower are awesome

Bentley Continental Speed is another comparable thing

its also extremely quick

[odd sand]

Imagine having a hellcat and losing to a civic

[dire viper]

straight line car moment

[potent arrow]

just because ya have the power doesn't mean you can put the power to the track

also weight.

[dire viper]

the power output from the Hellcat is a lot

Redeye is 808hp

the M8 is like 500lbs less plus has actual expensive AWD and suspension

xDrive is one of the best AWD systems out there which is so funny to me

it can actually do 100% splits

so most of the M cars with it have an option to send 100% of the power to the rear

[potent arrow]

I mean yeah that's my point

hellcat has so much power but Jesus Christ it's traction/suspension is nothing like bmw

[dire viper]

also bad chassis

[potent arrow]

or even the Japanese cars

yep

[dire viper]

Charger/Challenger arent even close to a Camaro

neither is a Mustang really

[potent arrow]

that's why I'm not surprised seeing where it is in that graph

[dire viper]

Dark Horse has a lot of chassis bits compared to a standard S650

[potent arrow]

civics are pretty rounded soooo

[dire viper]

I mean the Camaro SS 1LE, not even the ZL1E, is massively quicker than it

[potent arrow]

as lukewarm of a car as it gets

[dire viper]

this is true

Type R's are kinda numb

they have really good transmissions but

[potent arrow]

they work

[dire viper]

its still a FWD 4 cylinder car

[potent arrow]

but it's like the all rounder fighter you get at the beginning of a game lmfao

[dire viper]

lmao

oh do you wanna know what fucks

[potent arrow]

what

[dire viper]

the Prelude

old one

the looks are so good

Fifth Gen Prelude on some BBS LM's and the OEM style wing

and some candy paint

[potent arrow]

yesss

oh

btw I got my ass kicked

by a fucking cobalt

T-T

[dire viper]

L

Cobalt SS?

[potent arrow]

2007 SS lol

[dire viper]

the turbo's are quick af

the superchargers arent as quick but barely there

think its like .2 seconds slower in the 60

[potent arrow]

I doubht the motor was stock

[dire viper]

probably not, Chevy parts are dirt cheap

[potent arrow]

the headers where coming out of the passenger door •-•

[dire viper]

and Cobalts are one of those tuner cars that was really popular

so there is lots of documentation from when ppl were drag racing them

[potent arrow]

jeez

they are ugly tho

I'm getting close to retiring my car for the year

and my career

[dire viper]

😔

[potent arrow]

I'm done school so

[dire viper]

real

[potent arrow]

I will be getting a Miata

and I will be driving the shit out of it

[dire viper]

get an NB

the NB is the goat

its the NA but with a nice interior lol

thats the difference

https://youtu.be/ruTdaWEDNsw?si=HNY7DTypmeT0v3Z5 @potent arrow 240's are so nice, unfortunate I will never be able to afford one ever

[potent arrow]

my mentors Miata is kitted out with something, I haven't looked into it too much

ooiio

[dire viper]

360hp on a NA engine

and an engine that is older than both of us

its fuckin WILD that a Porsche 964 costs less than a 240Z at this point

can get a normal 964 Carrera 2 for like 30-40k in immaculate condition

[potent arrow]

jfc lol

[dire viper]

meanwhile a good 240Z chassis is like 20k minimum

completely stripped

[potent arrow]

i still hate carreras

[dire viper]

well the base 911 has been called a Carrera since '84

[potent arrow]

I hate porches in general lol

[dire viper]

😔

[potent arrow]

not my type of car really

too elegant for me LOL

it's weird but it really really is not my style

[dire viper]

idk I like them cause the air cooled cars are so unique

and even the new 911's are still unstable with TC off

only the GT3 RS gets the active suspension that counters to the weight transfer

and the weight transfer is what causes the snap oversteer lol

I just refuse to drive one at the limit, the cars want to kill you

[potent arrow]

I'm a freak and like raw power and weight and bulky cars

[dire viper]

buy mercedes

Buy S class, twin turbo it

6000lb sedan

[potent arrow]

see that's more my style lol

I love how agressive those cars are

[dire viper]

im sad they decided to change entirely how the new AMG GT was built

the first gen AMG GT was half an SLS AMG

so it drove like a track car while also having a brutal V8

the SLS AMG Black Series is the dream car

[potent arrow]

yeaaaah

too sleek looking

I got to track a 300E

that thing was brutal lmfao

[odd sand]

Anyone know how mint mobile works? It says X per month and also an upfront fee: Do you have to pay the upfront + pay the monthly fee? Or is the upfront the entire payment and the "per month" simply represents that money divided over the months of the contract?

[dire viper]

Notable changes over the SLS AMG include increased engine power to 631 PS (464 kW; 622 hp) at 7,400 rpm and decreased torque to 635 N⋅m (468 lb⋅ft) at 5,500 rpm along with increased engine redline of 8,000 rpm the Black Series weighs as much as my M3 yet it has double the power and the same redline

[potent arrow]

fuck those things are bricks

[dire viper]

I like the 300TD's

one of my friends has one

its got 450k miles on the clock

original 5 cylinder engine

[potent arrow]

fucking immaculate station wagon looking fucks

also I gotta replace the suspension on my daily lol

even if I stop at low speeds the front dips rofl

[dire viper]

wtf

also I cant believe people underestimate the E46 M3 😔

these ppl in Civics and stuff keep trying to race me and im just gone before I even hit second gear

or like base model 3 series owners

that put on a shitty exhaust

4000rpm in 6th gear is 100mph 🐸

and then you're in peak torque and so the drive up to 150 doesnt take TOO long but at that point you are now dealing with the resistance from air and the E46 isnt THAT aerodynamic unfortunately, as soon as you hit 95 the buffeting on the car gets really bad

I kinda wanna get another E46 project car, maybe a 330i coupe and supercharge it

go really hardcore on the chassis mods and suspension mods

[potent arrow]

live closer to me

take me on

I dare you

[dire viper]

E46 so good 😔

imagine having to only spend 5k for a perfect 50/50 weight split car thats RWD and has an insanely modifiable engine

[potent arrow]

you will lose to a purpose built track car, and it'll be unfair but I'll be happy about it

[dire viper]

Ill just bring the M3

[potent arrow]

I'll either smoke you or end up in the tire wall again

[dire viper]

lmao

idk, in actual track racing, if I had nice tires I think it would be pretty close

E46 M3 had a faster lap time than a 911 GT3 around the Nurburgring when they were both new which is just wild

both times set by factory racing drivers

[potent arrow]

it's also my home turf and Ive had multiple years of driving experience on it lol

[dire viper]

I will get u as long as my car doesnt snap oversteer

what 50/50 does to an mf

[potent arrow]

bet

also if debris doesn't get into the intake again FUCK

[dire viper]

do you not have mesh over the intake

[potent arrow]

I had a filter but I took it off last meet

twas too hot out

and it saved it

[dire viper]

I would just do chicken wire

literally

find some decent metal mesh

thats what most ppl do

[potent arrow]

the headers/exhaust team probably had their reasons lol

[potent arrow]

I'm not gonna question em, I do electrics and drive

[dire viper]

usually this is for carbs lol

a lot of old sports cars that ran carbs would have velocity stacks plus the mesh

old ferrari's did it on the tuned V12's and V8's, more for looks than anything I think

[potent arrow]

ooo

[dire viper]

🤤

250 GT Lusso with the Columbo V12

which isnt even the cool engine smh

the engine ferrari actually used racing was the Lampredi V12

and they only built 4 road cars with that engine

this is what it sounds like C:

[potent arrow]

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/6eO2pei5Ll4?si=k8SYj-fWhj3uS3d6

this car looks soooooooo good, and its STUPIDLY expensive cause its a one off body

all the Vignale body cars were one off, they never built two cars the same

oh nvm they only made 2 of the Lampredi 250's

[sharp star]

https://vxtwitter.com/tekwendell/status/1813697668436361378 if the ILM were the issue then Alder Lake CPUs would have died by now, unless it’s a combination of that and the aggressive power profiles?

[lost python]

oh wow, i already got a mail that my new chair is on the way

[paper tusk]

also there should be plenty of data from people using aftermarket retention frames

I don't think a frame swap will fix it even if it helps with temps

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-spinning-chair-gif-15454620

[lost python]

oh great. my worknotebook is being updated to win11

[inland mauve]

oh make sure to back up everything

[deep sapphire]

I wish they brought back windows 9.x start menu or maybe the devs look at it and remember wtf a start menu should look like

[inland mauve]

that update is effectively a fresh install

[lost python]

they didnt let me

[inland mauve]

[deep sapphire]

God start menu in 11 is so bad it makes me angry

Even 10 was fuckin better

A lot better

[lost python]

ye, had to use a third party tool to restore proper functuionality for it

[deep sapphire]

Same

[inland mauve]

my favourite part about the Win11 menu is that if you disable the Recommended items to create more space for icons, it will instead show this message

[deep sapphire]

You know it’s bad when it takes a 4th of your screen and you don’t even get to the letter B

[pine thistle]

I just use it for search anyway tbh, never clicked anything there

it is annoying that they decided to include fucking web results tho, no windows, just because I typoed cmd doesn't mean I want to search bing inside edge ffs

[deep sapphire]

You can disable that if you use a program called winaero tweaker

Gives you back only local search

[pine thistle]

yeah I messed with the registry way back to fix it, but it's annoying as fuck having to do that

[deep sapphire]

Right

[pine thistle]

and I don't trust MS to not fuck with it in the future and turn it back on

[lost python]

you know how you can press the WIN button and immediately just start typing to search for something?
i really have a strong feeling that the next windows version will get rid of that

[deep sapphire]

No MS I don’t want to “finish up this PC” every month

Yeah what else that was handy and convenient can they take away

[lost python]

i always rightclick the taskbar to get to the taskmanager and they took that away in 11

[deep sapphire]

I remember when they took away the flashing icons on the task bar for a bit

Like wtf if I’m in a game alt tabbed and it pings it letting me know a match started that was nice

Why take that away

[pine thistle]

I wouldn't even be surprised

considering they insisted on adding a search button

I also found out that they re-enable real time protection without my consent after a while, yay

[deep sapphire]

gotta love that most system builders if not all wont even be able to use their stupid major AI update as well

not that any of us care

[lost python]

win11 without tools to fix it looks so weird

[lost python]

i think my next goal will be to get a decent drill and then buy a height adjustable table frame

[low grove]

Does anyone here happen to know of a wireless 4000 or 8000hz polling rate MMO mouse similar to something like the Beast x Mini that uses magnesium alloy?

[odd sand]

Are those provided by Intel though? Or the board makers?

[sharp star]

Board partners if I recall

Intel just gives them a "guideline" and they do whatever

[odd sand]

Non-GMO free-trade organic magnesium

Well I can simply consider myself blessed then, that I haven't had any issues with my 13900K

Maybe it's bc I went with a 600 series board instead of the 700 series ones?

Aorus Elite AX DDR4 and H150i 360mm AIO

[low grove]

[odd sand]

Sorry, I couldn't help myself bc of all the useless marketing features. Especially if it's truly designed for MMOs and not even FPS games.

1000hz is 1000 updates a second. And I dunno about you, but I don't have pixel-perfect accuracy where even that would matter, let alone 4k or 8k polling that puts a lot of strain on your USB bus

[lost python]

It's basically impossible to notice anything higher than the standard 1k hz

[odd sand]

125hz is standard, technically

[odd sand]

Not surprised:
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/1e6fvwr/til_that_in_the_us_75_percent_of_truck_owners_use/

[deep sapphire]

TIDL Reddit whines about truck drivers non stop when most of them dont even drive

[hazy frost]

It is annoying that people just own trucks for 0 reason tbh

Same as full size SUVs

It’s not AS bad in the US in some ways but still bad

It’s even worse here

[deep sapphire]

I dont care what people buy its their own money and most trucks have ridiculous markups so its their own dumbass fault if they wanna buy one

besides a fully spec'd out truck sometimes ends up being one of the best luxury vehicles you can own

I dont whine when I see a 7 series BMW, do they really need a 7 series BMW?

[hazy frost]

I’d say I don’t care if they weren’t more dangerous for everyone else in accidents

So if u don’t need it you’re just making it more dangerous for everyone else to compensate for whatever insecurity u have

My problem isn’t just it being unnecessary

It’s the fact it actually inconveniences and endangers other people more than it needs to

[deep sapphire]

My only issue is truck height has gotten ridiculous and they need to stop with that bullshit

[odd sand]

It's more that a lot of people like to say/act like they NEED it... but when you look at what they do... they really don't.

[hazy frost]

Also that

[deep sapphire]

Trying to turn right and you can’t even see over them is obnoxious

[hazy frost]

I wish vans were cheaper tbh

[deep sapphire]

Even in my truck which is only like 6inches off the ground if even that lmao

[odd sand]

Also that. Pedestrian deaths doubled or more since 2010 bc nobody can see shit anymore and ppl pancake on the front now instead of rolling off the hood

[hazy frost]

Yeah

It’s ridiculous with new trucks

And SUVs

Same thing

[deep sapphire]

Pedestrian death has doubled because nobody pays any attention, how many people try to turn right without looking

[hazy frost]

They’re higher up and weigh twice as much as some cars as well

[deep sapphire]

I always got ran over by a car turning right back in like 2007

[hazy frost]

There’s studies showing SUVs and trucks are significantly more dangerous for pedestrians

[deep sapphire]

Almost**

[odd sand]

I mean, they've done the tests. Ppl don't go onto the hood and roll off the side of the vehicles: They simply get Bodied and go splat.

[hazy frost]

Yeah

If we just sold better estate cars and smaller trucks again this could be resolved

But no

We must have giant car

[odd sand]

Same idea as crumple zones for vehicles now: rolling off the side of the hood = shedding energy. Getting Bodied = all energy is transferred into you

[deep sapphire]

Supposedly there is some EPA conspiracy of why they won’t make small trucks because they are much harder to pass emissions and fuel economy targets

If you are over a certain weight rating you aren’t penalized

[hazy frost]

It’s not a conspiracy rly it’s cheaper to make them bigger bc of restrictions

[odd sand]

Yeah the fuel economy is based on wheel length or w/e

[hazy frost]

There’s no other reason to do it

It only became what people wanted after companies started doing it to save money

[deep sapphire]

Well that’s what I’m saying, CAFE standards are really strict

[hazy frost]

It’s kind of stupid

[deep sapphire]

People don’t understand the US is very strict about that stuff

[odd sand]

Of course fuel economy rules are also why we're getting 3cyl turbos in automaker lineups now too

[deep sapphire]

Your entire fleet has to meet a requirement

It’s been that way for decades

[hazy frost]

It’s not rly the fault of the US more that manufacturers are incredibly greedy and consumers are incredibly stupid

[odd sand]

Yeah another reason is "margins are better on SUVs"

[deep sapphire]

They are yeah

Trims are kinda ridiculous

[odd sand]

Somehow the Japanese automakers still sell a lot of coupes and sedans

[hazy frost]

3 cyl turbo was cool before cars weighed 3 tonnes

[deep sapphire]

Well they build them in states that have no union labor and relaxed laws

[odd sand]

But US automakers? Oh no, we don't sell them anymore, nobody wants to buy them anymore /s

[hazy frost]

Lol

Most people don’t buy new cars here

[odd sand]

Nevermind they refused to update the trim packages for them for like 10 years

Iwonderwhytheydontbuythem

[hazy frost]

Majority of cars are bought used bc people here actually seem to have registered u can get a much nicer used car for same money as base model poverty spec new car

[deep sapphire]

That’s not true they update them like every 2-4 years

[hazy frost]

I don’t think I’ve gotten in a car made after like 2010 that hasn’t felt basically the same as a new car

Minus a giant screen

[odd sand]

It was around 2015-6 I want to say when they were stopping a number of the coupes and sedans, all the SUVs had like BT and apple/android auto standard and the sedans you had to use an adapter etc.

[hazy frost]

Especially when ur buying a nicer trim model used it’ll be very similar to what you’d get for the same money with a current model lol

[odd sand]

They used things like BT audio standard as a consumer wedge to drive them into the SUVs

[hazy frost]

I don’t understand why people are so obsessed with that stuff

Like just

Replace it

It’s like $60

[odd sand]

Which you kinda can't do with the more modern cars

[hazy frost]

Yeah but in the mid 2010s u could

[odd sand]

Or at the very least, even if you get a new stereo, you need an adapter for the built in infotainment screen

[hazy frost]

It’s only the last few years it’s gotten like that

[odd sand]

Most ppl can't be assed to get an aftermarket and potentially scuff their wiring or it won't match the fit and finish etc.

[hazy frost]

I had a friend that refused to buy really nice good condition cars bc they didn’t have CarPlay and they then bought a shitbox with like 150k miles bc it had CarPlay

[odd sand]

Well that's just stupid then yeah. If it's used you can just get the other stereo in it

[hazy frost]

Some people are just like not using their brain

Consumerism sucks

More prominent with people who lease usually

I think most people who want the features in their car don’t even use it they just want it bc they want the fancy fully loaded model atp

[deep sapphire]

CarPlay is pretty nice specially if you ever had the luxury of owning an older Toyota with the worst infotainment systems on the planet

[sly elk]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Send_Me_to_Heaven

TIL there's a game where the intent is breaking your phone lol

reminds me of a feature I feel like mustangs need from the factory

you turn the mustang on and it shows a high score screen on the radio

eg it logs the 10 fastest speeds the car has ever reached lol

[sly elk]

huh which brands

gm and chrysler stuff had carplay because they used the same radio in everything lol

gm was a little better about that because there's like 3 generations of radio where you can swap the computer out and it's compatible

eg take a 2008 chevy and put a 2018 controller in and you get carplay and the newer ui

chrysler otoh you're stuck with whatever generation uconnect your car came with, and they had 3 generations of 8.4" radio lmao

they also had low speed CAN-bus and high speed can-bus options of the same radio in some cases

[dire viper]

if you can even get a radio

they're usually on 3-5 month back order cause now they dont stock them

they are usually special order only

unless you are a really big dealer or parts warehouse they wont let you do stock orders

https://youtu.be/YyzBez6rZC0?si=agTf1XcvNVMGGRZ0 also this goes hard

I wanna see if there is a gated manual kit for my car

there is not :C

ig I will just get a shifter upgrade kit so its not so sloppy

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33H3ROvpV7o

spicy little guy

[sly elk]

bluetooth medical devices piss me off

why can't they support a standard and just go straight to apple health

no no gotta download the app

and then it's a piece of shit so after a couple days if you don't open the app it won't sync with the device anymore

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/19/24201717/windows-bsod-crowdstrike-outage-issue

[inland mauve]

this is why you don't roll out updates on Friday in a time period where already a lot of people are on holiday

next Monday and Tuesday, there are going to be a lot of CCBs discussing the continuity risk of CrowdStrike

CCBs with people who had to work all weekend to fix the issues

[sharp star]

It's called "Patch Tuesday" for a reason

https://x.com/sxchopea/status/1814183041708990884

sxchopea (@sxchopea) on X

happy international bluescreen day😍

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 6:18 AM

[inland mauve]

early weekend for most people, OT for IT people

don't work in IT kids

[sharp star]

good god what a mess

https://chaser.com.au/general-news/global-windows-outage-leaves-mac-users-even-more-smug-than-usual/

https://x.com/tomwarren/status/1814238716648411545

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

CrowdStrike says "the issue has been identified, isolated and a fix has been deployed."

If only it was that simple. That fix requires the machines to be online, but they're boot looping due to CrowdStrike's faulty kernel driver 🤦‍♂️

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 9:59 AM

:(

[inland mauve]

[sharp star]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41003390

teeheelol

Throwaway account...CrowdStrike in this context is a NT kernel loadable module (a .sys file) which does syscall level interception and logs then to a separate process on the machine. It can also STOP syscalls from working if they are trying to connect out to other nodes and accessing files they shouldn't be (using some drunk ass heuristics).What...

Hacker News · Jul 19, 2024, 8:19 AM

They

WHAT

WHAT

I always said if you want to create real chaos, don't write malware. Get on the inside of a security product like this, and push out a bad update, and you can take most of the world down.

[sharp star]

https://www.crowdstrike.com/blog/statement-on-windows-sensor-update/

https://x.com/DeItaone/status/1814271127062987108 All is forgiven!

*Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) on X

CROWDSTRIKE CEO APOLOGIZES FOR OUTAGE -NBC INTERVIEW.

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 12:08 PM

[wide hill]

this is what linux has been warning us for years

[devout sluice]

I'm in backup and disaster recovery, I think I'm about to have a fun day....

And it's my wife's bday -.-

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/bsod-gif-26376970

[devout sluice]

I used to work with arcserve once upon a time and they pushed an update once which corrupted everyone's backup files. The fix was to update all your agents once they'd fixed it and then delete your backups and start over

[muted spoke]

Sleep? What's that?

[wraith agate]

what now

[sly walrus]

oh

piper

did you miss the mass international bsod kernel failure

[wraith agate]

hi

it seems I did

I was sleeping

[sly walrus]

happened while i was sleeping too

[inland mauve]

[wide hill]

that sounds like a breakup story:
"my husband forgot my birthday and went back to work at the evening"

[wraith agate]

funny if global systems can die while I sleep because some fuckwit pushed the wrong update

[sly walrus]

i saw it and was like "this is way more interesting than sleeping"

[wraith agate]

I'm still drowsy, can someone give me a detailed summary

[pine thistle]

it's even just that, they apparently purposefully pushed it past staging too

[wide hill]

some intern pushed code, auto-updated software then corrupted drivers, every computer has to be manually fixed on safe-mode

[sly walrus]

bunch of companies use cybersecurity program

[pine thistle]

this could work as summary I guess

[sly walrus]

cybersecurity program works at the kernel level

intern pushes update to deal with lag

[inland mauve]

it's a global computer crisis that has crippled most major airports in the world, and countless other organizations

[sly walrus]

update is not double checked

[inland mauve]

people have already died because they couldn't reach emergency services, it's a serious crisis

[sly walrus]

update fucks with the windows kernel in such a way that it bsods on boot

[pine thistle]

for once I am glad that we use Tanium, I still hate it, but at least we didn't get BSoDs

[wide hill]

the company is 100% fucked

since you need people to be at the computer to fix it

you can't remote in to fix this

[wraith agate]

omfg

whyyyyyyyyyyyy

[pine thistle]

extra fun for cloud shit I heard

since you need to attach the disks to a working server to delete the driver lol

[wide hill]

also, if you have bitlocker too, then you are extra fucked

[pine thistle]

and you gotta do that for every machine

[wraith agate]

this is why we have peer review, testing, and not deploy straight to prod

[pine thistle]

oh yeah I don't even know how it'd work with bitlocker if you use it with a TPM or something

[wide hill]

you need the recovery code

which is either hosted on microsoft windows management site, or on a paper, somewhere

[pine thistle]

or nowhere at all

[inland mauve]

it's a perfect storm because

1. The update was forced
2. It's an update to a kernel-level driver and it causes a boot loop
3. The update was pushed on a Friday for some God forsaken reason
4. It's a Friday in the holiday season, and a lot of the affected services are airports

[wraith agate]

I hope they woke up the whole fucking software engineer department to fix this ASAP, so is the most of it over or is there still fuckery going on?

[wide hill]

you can check if you have your recovery key registered here: https://account.microsoft.com/devices/recoverykey

[inland mauve]

the problem is you can't fix it with another automated update because the affected systems are bootlooping

[devout sluice]

The problem is they can't fix it because you can't push a fix to a down server

Lol

[inland mauve]

every affected system needs manual interference

[wraith agate]

oof

[inland mauve]

lots of people are going to work OT this weekend

[pine thistle]

Yeah I think teeechnically it's fixed

you just can't update your stuff because it's dead

[inland mauve]

the supplier already created a fix

[wide hill]

the solution is super easy, for one computer

[inland mauve]

but gotta install the fix manually

[wraith agate]

I wonder if this will affect my workplace

[inland mauve]

on millions of computers

[wide hill]

if you got the program installed and updated it

[pine thistle]

also apparently aws has mad storage latency atm because everyone is fixing it manually

[wide hill]

if your pc was offline today or yesterday, then it shouldn't affect you if they removed the corrupted update

[wraith agate]

oh mine was offline

at least I don't see anything

[wide hill]

yeah this update probably instantly bsod's the pc once the update is installed (or at some point in time)

[devout sluice]

As far as I've seen it's not even an "update"

It's just 1 file

[wraith agate]

as for my workplace, fuck if I know, but I'll hear about it when I go back tonight

[wide hill]

yeah, but that was that file that was updated when doing the update

[wraith agate]

time to eat some brunch and watch some video on it

[pine thistle]

ye that's the kernel module afaik, the .sys file

[wide hill]

they prob gonna install the new same file anyways afterwards with a new update again, since they prob use that file for their system as required

[pine thistle]

yeah definitely

unless IT uses this to convince management to get rid of falcon

[sly walrus]

more than likely anything cloudstrike on these machines is getting yeeted into the sun

[wraith agate]

nevermind, gotta watch this first

[wide hill]

i can't imagine the IT people in the airports having to run between computers to enter in a command on every pc

[wraith agate]

I'd probably either quit, buy a farm and start living like a Mormon or drink till I fall into a coma

[wide hill]

local news comparing this to the fear of y2k

[pine thistle]

maybe they'll figure out that spying on your employees isn't worth the risk :D

[devout sluice]

Crowdstrike isn't spy software

[wide hill]

huh, you can ignore bitlocker https://x.com/Syndikalist/status/1814281141265846772

Johan (@Syndikalist) on X

@vxunderground Bitlocker can be ignored

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 12:48 PM

[pine thistle]

I guess if it's set to auto unlock or something

since the auto unlock would still work on the same system you don't need the recovery bit

[wide hill]

yeah i think it just launches windows normally just with safe mode within after the drive is unlocked

like if you went in trough the recovery options and safe mode it wouldn't work the same way

[cold yacht]

So does the average person have to worry about crowdstrike

[sly walrus]

eh

if you’re flying somewhere

or need to go to the hospital

[inland mauve]

probably not unless you use their security products

you're mostly going to feel it in the services that you use that relied on CrowdStrike software

[hallow scaffold]

Mfw I'm taking a plane to a hospital

[wide hill]

thins like self-checkins and stores that uses windows

pretty much any enterprise windows could be using crowdstrike

so anything that could run windows could be affected, if they use crowdstrike

[sharp star]

https://x.com/ArtemR/status/1814206932993118695

Artem Russakovskii (@ArtemR) on X

Delta, United, American Airlines flights are all grounded right now.

The reason Southwest is not affected is because they still run on Windows 3.1.

https://t.co/ezFubvKVNA

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 7:53 AM

[wraith agate]

lmao

[sharp star]

https://x.com/spparel/status/1814322792348688818

🇺🇦🌻🏳️‍🌈 Serge Parel (@spparel) on X

In 2010 McAffe caused a global IT meltdown due to a faulty update. CTO at this time was George Kurtz. Now he is CEO of #crowdstrike https://t.co/sIkX7WI1ex

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 3:33 PM

[wide hill]

that is really sus

maybe the intern was the ceo

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

[wide hill]

not using crowdstrike

damn i am living the life right here

[deep sapphire]

losers heavily relying on cloud services

https://tenor.com/view/mike-ohearn-baby-dont-hurt-me-john-cnea-gif-1821820141494841279

[wide hill]

"yeah we outsourced all IT folks to the other side of the world"

"what do you mean by that you need to be here to fix the issue, just do the computer magic!"

[inland mauve]

what do you mean you scaled up your infrastructure without scaling up the support at the same rate

[deep sapphire]

Pass the buck off to someone else that’s the blackrock way

[inland mauve]

this is such a weird pull though, did bro just self-report that he is unemployed

[cold yacht]

maybe

though i can say the exact same thing rn but today is my day off

[dire viper]

Actually me rn

[dire viper]

Wait so the fix requires a physical human to remove a file

Oh god

The market is gonna fuckin dip

This is like a week long process or longer considering how few people are capable of understanding the words system file and safe mode

[pine thistle]

Damn, is it EA/Unity all over again

[sharp star]

this is much worse

[pine thistle]

well ofc

but maybe we should stop making people CEOs that had massive fuckups in the past

[deep sapphire]

I doubt the CEO had a say in this tbh there is always a chain of command in any organization

Someone was asked to push an update and their direct supervisor is responsible

[wraith agate]

Oh boy, so here I'm at work

And we got several machines with this error

The good news is, we don't really operate with many of them

I am slightly madge the company dodged this bullet thanks to summer break

We are operating with a skeleton crew atm and 90% of the factory machines are not used

[deep sapphire]

[cold yacht]

I wonder if my job got fucked at point of sale

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dUHax6C9Vs

I think going forward all petrol engines will have this hybrid design

its a smart design and would help a lot with economy

its really the best of both worlds, you get the torque of an EV with the convenience of standard petrol

[sharp star]

https://x.com/wccftech/status/1814399490268508422

Wccftech (@wccftech) on X

Alleged prices of AMD's Ryzen 9000 "Zen 5" Desktop CPUs have been revealed & it may look like the top 9950X chip would top out at $499 US if these are the real deal. https://t.co/y20snd7szp

Twitter · Jul 19, 2024, 8:38 PM

[deep sapphire]

I would wait for the 3D chips

I’m not really sure who these are for when the average performance uplift is barely 8 percent and in gaming the 7800X3D is still faster

[sharp star]

Oh for sure

Waiting for X3D seems to be the move

Still, not gonna deny the pricing looks good

[deep sapphire]

Be curious if they can finally move on from 8 cores on one CCX for X3D

[sharp star]

AMD had a dual CCD X3D prototype that never made it to mass production so... mmmmmaybe?

...nah

[deep sapphire]

It would be nice, Intel’s rumored 20 percent IPC uplift on their next processor might make this moot but I believe you’ll need a new mobo so that kills a deal for a lot of people

On top of the obvious quality control problems

[sharp star]

yup

[dense reef]

Hi

I got new pc parts to upgrade into: gpu, psu and cpu

Should I mount them all at once or??

[paper tusk]

it shouldn't matter, especially for the power supply

[dense reef]

Mhm

[pine thistle]

I don't see a reason why not yeah

and if you still wanna do them one by one, probably the PSU first just incase your old one can't handle the consumption of the new gpu

[dense reef]

Yeah the old one falls a but short

[paper tusk]

will also make cable management easier

[paper tusk]

not sure it's incremental improvements, or just bulldozing it with the 105c TJMAX

[deep sapphire]

It’s an all new architecture and process

[glossy ravine]

I now have 2 decent monitors.

[sharp star]

https://xkcd.com/2347/

xkcd: Dependency

Someday ImageMagick will finally break for good and we'll have a long period of scrambling as we try to reassemble civilization from the rubble.

[inland mauve]

man I hope that people learn the right lessons from this incident but they won't

[dense reef]

I broke a plastic piece that locks in the gpu

I dont know what to do
The old one fits and stays but the new one seems too large for the case? Supposedly there were no compatibility issues on pc part picker

The side doenst fit right

[dull trellis]

you just gotta reposition the card so the faceplate fits flush the way it should, the tabs at the bottom are forcing it out of alignment right now. just remove from the case and re-seat, and make sure those tabs slide in the bottom similar to the plate blanks beside the card

locking piece on the back of the slot is a nice to have but not completely necessary.. just be sure to check it (if it's broken) after the case moves

[dense reef]

Yeah I was able to fit it right this time

Had to align metal plate

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/l8S_kII_2es?si=KOz4iyBE93BU3K8R @potent arrow @deep sapphire 71 Triumph TR6 with a Shelby 302 swap

[sly elk]

you do the system restore thing and it goes back to a checkpoint before the botched update, and then fetches a fixed update

caveat: This pisses off bitlocker

might be faster to make a usb boot disk that can load the file system and nuke the busted files automatically

but still bitlocker

[paper tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeubeCIwRw

take with some clickbait salt

[dense reef]

I was changing bios settings and tried setting ram on higher frequency. Once I pressed save and exit, monitor wont work properly (says it cant recognize display port signal)

Cant even boot into bios again

No resolution appears in my monitor settings

[sharp star]

someone sneezed on the wafers

[sharp star]

https://xkcd.com/2961

xkcd: CrowdStrike

We were going to try swordfighting, but all my compiling is on hold.

[sly elk]

hhahaha my company got lucky it was our off friday

[lost python]

makes me glad my government is still stuck in 2016

[royal forge]

Our hospital uses norton

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-golden-girls-hands-gif-24420157

[sly elk]

i mean

some of my coworkers reported their computers got bricked as well

but the majority of the computers live in the office

[royal forge]

Actually my hosp doesnt use antivirus i think

[sly elk]

LOL

there's always windows defender

[royal forge]

[sly elk]

i have a lot of opinions about this stuff

in a hospital environment especially

like why wouldn't the computers be just any dumb thing with a badge/2fa token reader and a web browser based system

then use a read-only image that gets nuked every time the computer is restarted

[royal forge]

Because we also save documents and want it persistent?

[sly elk]

from what iw was reading some hospitals even use windows+crowdstrike on the medicine cabinets

[royal forge]

Web based browser which needs a server

[sly elk]

like WHY

WHY WHY WHY WHY

[royal forge]

Which will fuckin die, when everyone accesses it?

[sly elk]

hmmmmmmmmmmm

in the US anyway I'd be hesitant to have documents stored on the terminal itself

I'm thinking of hospital environments

[royal forge]

At my old hosp we had a web based system, where u did clinical entries, order bloods, order imaging etc from there

It was OK

[sly elk]

the personal machines the nurses/doctors use at their own desk in the office can get fucked by stuff like this for all I care lol

still terrible

[royal forge]

Useful in that aspect

[sly elk]

but the core EMR stuff doesn't really make sense to run that way

[royal forge]

But havin on PC files are actually needed

When we do discharge summaries, referrals etc

We keep templates in the pc to type up and send off

It saves us A LOT of time

A normal discharge takes... 20 minutes without a template

I shave it down to 5

In departments like O&G where mums and newborns are popped out constantly

Yeah, defo needed

We also keep quick references there too

[sly elk]

i hear ya but I get the vibe doing that would make people lose their minds here XD

[royal forge]

But havin a completely digitized system is also sometimes not great

Esp for cases of surgical based

Because you need to draw and describe wounds

[sly elk]

the medical world here loses their mind so much over HIPAA and patient privacy laws that you can get some laughably asinine interactions with doctor's offices sometimes

[royal forge]

I meam, sure, u can describe but nothing beats a drawing

Whoever says "take a picture" i will shove my foot up ya arse

[sly elk]

like someone calling our (shared) home phone number asking to speak to my mother or my brothers and refusing to state who they are or why they're calling

[royal forge]

Thats just idiocy

U must always identify urself

[sly elk]

apparently it's because someone might be in an abusive family relationship

so you're not supposed to tell the relatives where you're calling from

some places will just say "doctor's office"

good nuff, except when they see like 5 different doctors regularly

independent doctor offices are so much easier to deal with

sadly those are practically nonexistent here now ;_;

[royal forge]

Joy of US healthcare system

[sly elk]

the US healthcare system is fuuuucked

it's a complete fucking shit show and I hate it

[royal forge]

Alright tech problem help needed

My sister, got a new laptop

It was working OK up till about a couple of hours ago

She was able to log in previously no problem

But she has suddenly been unable to log in and has ?triggered? the password lockout

She cant do a password reset it seems, as it requires ?USB?

[civic ether]

Anyone having weird issues with 13th generation i5’s

[sharp star]

It's a known issue for somewhere between six months to a year now

Uh the only thing I can recommend is "don't use Raptor Lake CPUs"

like unironically swap to Alder Lake or AMD if you have to

[civic ether]

Damn, RIP me buying 13th gen 18 months ago

[sharp star]

Yeah

[civic ether]

I’m going to die now

(Figuratively speaking)

[sharp star]

It sucks because big name companies are also affected

[civic ether]

I know I can’t afford anything to help fix right now. I’m just really bummed.

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzHcrbT5D_Y Wendell has a video on the subject matter that covers the server side, but the tl;dw is that all of Raptor Lake is affected, unsure about the i3s

If you can "downgrade" to an Alder Lake CPU then I would highly suggest doing so because I personally think the problem with Raptor Lake will get worse, especially with Zen 5 coming up

[civic ether]

I’m going to just have to suffer, it’s gonna be awhile before I can replace my parts ):

What a time to be alive

[sharp star]

multi-billion dollar company btw

[civic ether]

Wild cuz I know they won’t replace it for me either, that’s my low wage slave pay I gotta fork out

Ty for the info I’m gonna be sad and cry myself to sleep now

[sharp star]

yeah this is why I’m switching company PCs off Intel for the foreseeable future

Jesus Christ what a mess

it’s either AMD or Alder Lake CPUs

[sharp star]

I wonder how UserBenchmark is taking this

[golden stream]

Is it affect the laptop lineup as well?

[sharp star]

Yes but to a lesser degree

I don't know how lesser but it's still pretty bad

[potent arrow]

well they have nothing accurate anyways

[devout sluice]

So a question for the techies in the room...I've been encountering this issue since Windows Server 2016 where the start menu isn't clickable anymore, and I can't find any fixes for it online, and it's a known issue which MS hasn't fixed ever. Anyone know wtf?

[dire viper]

New Volvo tractor

Volvo VNL

90% new parts just to get better fuel economy

[sharp star]

https://x.com/IanCutress/status/1814481840129888440 I do not see this being fixable

𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠 (@IanCutress) on X

Tantalum Nitride liner issues. That's a new one. TaN has a scaled performance/reliability curve, fighting against scaling issues and battling Copper diffusion into the bulk dielectric.

I may put something together over the weekend on this. GJ to GN on offering it as a potential.

Twitter · Jul 20, 2024, 2:05 AM

[potent arrow]

@deep sapphire https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751416614431358999/1264256777328001046/Screenshot_20240720_122452_Instagram.jpg?ex=669d3660&is=669be4e0&hm=5c5f21239cd36fa89a0e8bf99e01f0e3fdd1d02b790fdca02d6e6b26dbb9b4e4&=&format=webp&width=542&height=670

[dire viper]

This is real

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAdBvjFeENg

thats really poor clear coat lmao

typical dodge

[potent arrow]

fuck

i hope my truck will be fine

[deep sapphire]

someone should tell dodge that hardener has a ratio

[pine thistle]

Opening razer synapse reminded me how shitty software is nowadays

No razer, I don't want to make an account

and no, I don't even want to make it after you ask me again after I clicked "continue as guest"

[hazy frost]

Atl there’s a guest option, sometimes u don’t even get that now

I do actually think the razer software is decent as far as peripheral software goes minus the account thing

[dire viper]

thats actually crazy

I havent heard anything of that

and I work at a Chrysler dealer

[hazy frost]

American quality 🔥

[dire viper]

oh its a 2018

yea thats weird

our 2017 Laramie Long Horn 1500 has lots of chips all over it cause we use it for towing, hunting etc

that paint looks bad bad

it could've been the panels werent prepped properly (most likely)

[pine thistle]

yeah like with geforce experience, at least the last time I used it back when they added it

[dire viper]

so as the truck got dings and scrapes over the years it let moisture into the panels

[pine thistle]

tbh idk, I just set the color and thats it, don't really care for anything else

[hazy frost]

I think u can use guest with that but I have an acc for it anyway

[hazy frost]

I mean I set up macros and change buttons and stuff

[pine thistle]

the wooting software doesn't ask for an account so that makes it at least worth half the price already

[hazy frost]

I still think wooting is overhyped

Steelseries make the same product basically

Neither is amazing

[sly elk]

ya know looking back on that crowdstrike mess, I feel like it reflects badly mostly on the businesses that used it lol

what the hell did they expect from a vendor that installs a rootkit on their computer and goes 'trust me bro'

[dire viper]

this looks like the paint was damaged from hail which caused breaks in the paint cause the rust patterns are very specific

[pine thistle]

too scared of failing audits I guess

[hazy frost]

The general public don’t know who crowdstrike is anyway so the blame will fall on the companies

[dire viper]

ive seen this on lots of hail damaged cars

[hazy frost]

Either way

[pine thistle]

and if it checks a box, they don't care

[pine thistle]

from what I've seen the blame fell on Microsoft lel

[sly elk]

for sure, i do recall icehunter mentioning that having zero trust endpoint security crap was required by his liability insurance

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s one or the other

[dire viper]

also his paint has a STUPID amount of orange peel in it

[deep sapphire]

nah this is cause of clear coat being too hard or the primer didnt adhere to the metal

[sly elk]

it did because the blue screen of death was what everyone saw

[deep sapphire]

they didnt mix the formulation right

[dire viper]

this kinda looks dodgy tho

[sly elk]

but afaik crowdstrike uses a kernel module on linux and maybe on macs too

[dire viper]

in the part where they show the door panel you can see the paint on the door doesnt even look properly polished even

[deep sapphire]

back in the 90s they had a lot of issues with paint across all brands including japanese makes because they were trying to move towards water based paints which were more environmentally friendly

[pine thistle]

on macs it runs in userspace or something, since apple doesn't allow them to run with higher elevation unlike windows

[deep sapphire]

GM were the first to use it and had tons of issues with it

[sly elk]

it's funny because apple actually started making accomodations in MacOS for this sorta thing not requiring a kernel module lol

[deep sapphire]

especially white paints

[pine thistle]

so I guess you could blame windows but eh

[dire viper]

its got a lot of orange peel, which our 2017 RAM doesnt have and its never been polished by a third party

[hazy frost]

What not buying a new phone for 8 years looks like

[sly elk]

YES. And I was just typing that ❤️

[hazy frost]

I just checked how much I used it today and it’s 2 hours

Lmao

[sly elk]

To that degree, I do blame MS a little

[dire viper]

this looks like respray to me

[sly elk]

but also 100% tbh I blame the cybersecurity people that saw this and nodded and were like "yep that's a great idea let's buy it"

[dire viper]

flake doesnt look consistent with the factory paint flake

[deep sapphire]

yeah thats way too much orange peel

[sly elk]

is it a ford?

[deep sapphire]

all factories use robotic sprayers

nah its a ram

[sly elk]

yeaaa that's not right

[pine thistle]

yeah...and idk, taking away more rights just because companies install stupid shit is eh, you already barely own your pc with windows on it >.>

[deep sapphire]

I worked at a nissan plant they had a lot of issues with paint

[sly elk]

if it were a ford I'd say it might be factory

[deep sapphire]

if it was too humid they would stop the line

all because paint would adhere to the primer

wouldnt**

[sly elk]

cuz the lower parts of ford doors always seem to have orange peel

[dire viper]

I wouldnt be SURPRISED if it came from the factory like that but the extent is so extreme that he shoulda noticed when he bought it new

[deep sapphire]

I mean shit happens I guess, obviously not all trucks do that but they should make it right and fix it

[sly elk]

that's another topic completely hehe

[dire viper]

true

but stellantis moment

[sly elk]

as far as i can tell it's not reasonable to expect any sort of 'privacy' when being paid to do work for somebody in the US

like

[deep sapphire]

paint is paint, its always going to be picky and making sure its perfect isnt easy

[sly elk]

if an employer demands the webcam on recording you all day, and the computer tracking how many keys you hit and how often you hit keys and stuff

100% fair game

[dire viper]

this looks like the paint was chipped long before the paint actually peeled off tho

[sly elk]

look at the lack of outrage over amazon basically tracking how long their warehouse employees spend using the toilet

[dire viper]

caused pretty substantial rust

[deep sapphire]

yeah

[dire viper]

the panels are galvanized so it woulda been bad for a year before it started doing that

[deep sapphire]

not all panels are, the roof usually isnt actually cause thats not a common wear point

[dire viper]

zinc plating, modern at least, should be good for a year minimum until it starts being worn down enough to rust

[deep sapphire]

most automakers actually moved to using aluminum for side fenders and doors

[dire viper]

yuh

[deep sapphire]

resists corrosion and is lighter

[dire viper]

I think RAM does whole chassis dips still

[deep sapphire]

ford obviously uses aluminum on the entire body and bed

[dire viper]

I could be wrong tho

[deep sapphire]

trucks are made in 2 sections

[dire viper]

bed and cab

[deep sapphire]

frames are coated elsewhere

[sly elk]

not truck dude here: that's the one thing i like about fords - the aluminum build

[deep sapphire]

the body and cab is though yes

they use an e coat

[dire viper]

fenders, bed sides are aluminum, usually the hood as well

[sly elk]

i saw a cute little video yesterda of sume dude in the rust belt doing a tour around a 9 year old aluminum f150 that spent its whole life in the rust belt and it still looked fantastic

[pine thistle]

ah yeah, you guys are fucked over there privacy wise :D
but I meant rights as in, rights to modifying shit on your own machine, if they want to prevent this they'd have to do what apple does which would take away rights from the user to do what they want with their OS

[deep sapphire]

frames are e coated and sprayed with a wax, I dont know if all truck makers do that but GM and Toyota do

[sly elk]

"your own machine" - we're talking about company-owned work computers here

[deep sapphire]

the wax works well because it is self repairing in a way but over time rock chips can break into the layer and then you start to develop rust

[dire viper]

it is an aluminum roof usually whar

[deep sapphire]

if you've ever seen farm trucks they all look like shit after only a few years

[sly elk]

idk about europe but in the US it's pretty strict on if the company bought it you have no rights at all with respect to how it operates

[dire viper]

rams have a steel cab with aluminum fenders and hood, roof seems to be aluminum as well

[pine thistle]

yeah but not allowing third party kernel modules would affect everyone using the OS, (not that it would matter for most home users) not just company PCs

[deep sapphire]

aluminum can still rust but its usually surface rust

[dire viper]

yuh

[deep sapphire]

I actually dont think any of the automakers use galvonized steel anymore

[sly elk]

i think you can still use third party kernel modules on a mac, but it's not something a casual user would do casually

[dire viper]

idk I might check at work on monday the roofs and panel sides are next to my desk in the warehouse

[sly elk]

i do know SIP and the way macos currently boots off a read-only image makes it a paaaaaain to modify

[dire viper]

cause roofs come with primer from the factory

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrafAoCiDDk

[pine thistle]

I think on their new Silicon it's forbidden, or something like that

[deep sapphire]

MORE GALVONIZED STEEL

[sly elk]

it's pretty neat though

[deep sapphire]

TOUGHER HIDE

[sly elk]

like the core OS is a read only FS and uses checksum checking everywhere >>

i forgot if it's read only fs or straight up a disk image too

[potent arrow]

then there's us who lives in the rust shit hell

[sly elk]

the apple thin I hate is their idea that an oS is secure if you gatekeep with app stores lol (looking at ios)

[potent arrow]

doesn't matter what you do

[dire viper]

its cause its very expensive to do now

[potent arrow]

rust up the fucking ass in a year

[sly elk]

buy an aluminum f150

[deep sapphire]

yeah living in the north rust is just expected hahaha

[dire viper]

the regulations around the chemicals are crazy

[deep sapphire]

the F150 still has a steel frame

[potent arrow]

nothing is safe

yep

[deep sapphire]

nothing saving your frame hahaha

[sly elk]

jeeps also use aluminum bodies :3

[pine thistle]

it's a shame bypassing that is so expensive in the EU

[sly elk]

annual fluid film?

[deep sapphire]

and the thing is the worst part is when it starts to thaw

yeah that helps

[sly elk]

yea I take the rust thing so hard for granted

[deep sapphire]

some shops will spray your frame for you but its like 400 bucks

[potent arrow]

I don't bother tbh, it's just fucked here

[sly elk]

if I look under my jeep or our cadillac they both look pretty much the same as they did when I bought them

[potent arrow]

salt hell

[deep sapphire]

I think the northeast is even worse

[dire viper]

hexavalent is basically banned everywhere in the US cause it will just kill you, Trivalent is the newer stuff and isnt AS bad but will still give you cancer

[deep sapphire]

I've seen southmain auto channel and he gets 4 year old trucks in with fuckin rusty frames

[dire viper]

this is why there arent any old zinc platers alive

[deep sapphire]

like holy shit

[dire viper]

zinc platers used to TASTE the zinc tank to check the chemical balance

and hexavalent is a carcinogen

[deep sapphire]

that just means it works

😏

"this stuff is really bad for your health"

"yeah but it works"

[sly elk]

-remembers that time he had a lab that used hexavalent chromium in college-

[sly walrus]

just cover it in asbestos

[deep sapphire]

its kinda funny because thats a great example

asbestos worked very good, its just very dangerous

[sly elk]

you can still use asbestos in the right places

i wonder if they still use it on brake pads :S

[sly walrus]

away from people?

[deep sapphire]

white asbestos that was mined in canada up until what, 2018?

[sly elk]

that seems like the worst place ever

brake pads are like the worst place ever

[deep sapphire]

no they dont use them on brake pads

[dire viper]

they did at one point

[deep sapphire]

they stopped that in like the 90s or 2000s

[dire viper]

at one of my jobs we had asbestos brake pads

[deep sapphire]

you may be able to buy aftermarket ones still

I think they were more common in brake drums

[dire viper]

cause ofc there are cars where the brake caliper size is so niche that the last time they made pads for them was in the 60's

[deep sapphire]

which is why people warned you when cleaning out brake drums to wear a mask

whcih you should still do

a lot of brake dust collects in brake drums because it has no where to go

I had to re adjust mine on my chevy the auto adjuster on the old GM brake drums were terrible lmao

they have a ratcheting mechanism thats supposed to self adjust when you come to a stop but if you park on an incline that tends to not work well

thankfully its not that hard you just have to get a flat blade screwdriver and push the pawl down a few clicks

then slide the drum back on until its just barely able to fit

the nice thing about brake drums is they tend to last a lot longer, rears dont get pushed as hard as the fronts and they have thicker material

[dire viper]

idk how people afford to own Hellcats

[deep sapphire]

they dont

[dire viper]

hank do you wanna know how much a brake job on a hellcat costs

[deep sapphire]

probably a couple thousand

[dire viper]

unless you have an in at a dealer the parts cost 3500