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[hazy frost]

I’ve only had to spend £190 on my car in the last year

I stay winning

[deep sapphire]

its like flat out water

[hazy frost]

Idk what the noise coming from the front is tho

I just got new springs and now it’s making new noises

Im ignoring it Idc

[sly walrus]

forbidden kool-aid

[deep sapphire]

jack it up and shake the tires

[dire viper]

wtf is that oil

[hazy frost]

I do not think this will help

[deep sapphire]

if you have play in steering components it can help

worn out tie rods or ball joints will usually have play in the tire

[hazy frost]

It was already jacked up like a week ago and the new springs went on

[dire viper]

also, my car is supposed to eat oil if driven hard (I have run the car to 150mph for over a few minutes at a time a few times now) and my car hasnt eaten enough oil for me to actually tell

[hazy frost]

It’s probably not a new noise and it was just quieter than my springs

But still

[deep sapphire]

BMW owners think this

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[dire viper]

yea idfk where the oil consumption shit comes from

bad maintenance probably

[hazy frost]

If one car from a company had a problem the whole company gets a reputation from people online anyway

[dire viper]

none of the people I know here with them have issues that people normally label them with

valve cover gaskets is the only true meme

[hazy frost]

Idk anyone with issues except the m5

[dire viper]

I think they have an issue with their piston rings or oil recirculation, minor but it allows enough oil to burn that it becomes noticeable

[hazy frost]

I don’t know if I even would get rid of my car atp bc I like not having anything go wrong

[deep sapphire]

modern cars have these ridiculous low tension piston rings trying to reach higher compression ON TOP of having boost

and then they have like

8 different PCV valves

that are like

1/8 in inner diameter

what could go wrong

[hazy frost]

German engineering

[dire viper]

the F10 M5 has issues if its a 2013 build or prior

so 2014 Model year and prior

[hazy frost]

Idk when it’s from

[deep sapphire]

im sorry but it really is german engineering

[hazy frost]

It’s not new at all

[deep sapphire]

when GM still owned opel

and brought over their shitty ecotec engines

[dire viper]

the V8's had the rod bearing issues which were gone as soon as they did the engine update and also they did eat oil

[deep sapphire]

that all had tons of issues

the 1.4 turbo ecoshit

[dire viper]

the F10 M5 is a proper M car tho

full on

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[deep sapphire]

horrible horrible horrible horrible

[hazy frost]

Ecoboost engines are the best engines ever designed

[deep sapphire]

not the ecoboost

the ecotec

[hazy frost]

Oh

That’s not as bad

[dire viper]

the F10 M5 has peak power at 7000rpm and peak torque like 4-5k

[deep sapphire]

this turd

[dire viper]

550hp and 500ft lbs

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[hazy frost]

Heavy as well tho

[dire viper]

ecoboosts are only good in europe its so weird

[deep sapphire]

they have these terrible plastic coolant passages

that all leak

[dire viper]

I really think Ford Europe is just better than Ford US

[deep sapphire]

after like 20,000 miles

and because they are put in daily driver econoshitboxes

[dire viper]

in the block?????

[deep sapphire]

nobody gets them fixed

so then they overheat

and then the head gaskets go

https://tenor.com/view/genius-shit-snoop-dogg-phat-tuesdays-thats-genius-its-genius-gif-24914106

[dire viper]

the Alpina F10 M5 Touring goes so hard

[deep sapphire]

the old 2.4 ecotec engine was good though

[hazy frost]

Slow as shit tho

[dire viper]

you can make them insanely fast

[hazy frost]

My friend got a 2018 ecoboost fiesta and it’s slow as hell

[dire viper]

3.5 ecoboost with a tune slaughters a 5.0 its so sad

[deep sapphire]

the ecoboost on paper is a good engine but they are overtaxed here

[dire viper]

also way cheaper to build

[hazy frost]

Yeah but the smaller engines from the fiesta and focus are garbage

[deep sapphire]

they also had really bad head gasket issues because of the thin cooling jackets on the open block design

[hazy frost]

They go nowhere

[dire viper]

what muhfuckin engine is in the Raptor Ranger in europe

the 3.0 ecoboost

just the Ford Performance version

[deep sapphire]

I dont think we get a 3 liter ecoboost

[dire viper]

thats the US one as well

so the Ranger got the euro engine

interesting

[deep sapphire]

3.5, 2.7, 1.5, 1.0 and I think they have a 3 cyl .7 liter

[hazy frost]

The 1 and 1.5 both suck

The fastest feeling .9 I’ve been in was the new clio actually

[deep sapphire]

yeah they had some recalls on the 1.5

oh the 1.0 is the 3 cyl

that engine is fuckin tiny lmao

[dire viper]

oh neat the Bronco Raptor and the Ranger Raptor both get the euro 3.0L Nano

[hazy frost]

Yeah it’s what my friend has

And oh my god it’s

Painful

[hazy frost]

It’s slow and u really feel it being slow as well lmao

[dire viper]

smuggling engine blocks smh

[hazy frost]

He gets like the same mileage as me as well apparently

Which is insane

[dire viper]

yea my car out of optimal AFR is probably faster than anything with that engine

[hazy frost]

Idk what he’s doing

[deep sapphire]

probably because it has to rev so high to get any momentum going it loses any fuel benefit

[hazy frost]

True

He gets like 44 and I get 40

[dire viper]

meanwhile my M3 getting 40mpg if i stick it in 5th gear around town

[hazy frost]

Atl he has Bluetooth in his car

[dire viper]

3.2L i6

3400lb car

[hazy frost]

I have to listen to my radio cut out every 30 seconds

[deep sapphire]

you get 40 MPG city

gonna need pics of that

[dire viper]

yessir

[hazy frost]

Oh I’d get more if I drive it better

[dire viper]

next time

[deep sapphire]

not even a corolla is managing that

[dire viper]

Utah has funny roads where there isnt stop lights for like 2 miles

[hazy frost]

I got like 40 doing ‘city’ driving and not driving slow

[dire viper]

on highway if I actually go 70 I get like 35mpg

I normally do not go 70

[hazy frost]

I can drive mine flat out and still get 40 lmao

[deep sapphire]

I love older EPA fuel economy figures it'd be like

40 MPG highway

and then 18 City

[dire viper]

lmao

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

yea the M3 has VANOS so the engine will trim out fuel for better economy if your in 6th gear and just cruising

[hazy frost]

Current car my dad owns gets a good amount ngl

What would u consider low

For city

Lmao

[deep sapphire]

15 or lower

[hazy frost]

It’s 7

[dire viper]

7

[hazy frost]

7

[deep sapphire]

7 MPG? or liter

[dire viper]

is it a hellcat redeye jailbreak

[hazy frost]

7-15 city

[deep sapphire]

cause thats really bad

[hazy frost]

Mpg

[deep sapphire]

my fuckin 1990 chevy gets better

[hazy frost]

It’s a 4.8l v8

[dire viper]

4.8, is that BMW or what

[hazy frost]

Audi

[dire viper]

OH

[deep sapphire]

manual gearbox?

[dire viper]

that explains it

[hazy frost]

No

[hazy frost]

Yes

[dire viper]

4.8 V8 wtf is that in

A8?

or Q8

[deep sapphire]

I'd think an automatic would keep the revs down to get better MPG than that

yeah must be a heavy ass vehicle

[dire viper]

maybe S8 even

[hazy frost]

Oh no it’s a 4.2

That was an older car

[deep sapphire]

my toyota tacoma gets pretty bad city

like 14-16

I dont think the trans tuning on it is very good

it hunts for gears

[hazy frost]

It’s heavy yeah

[deep sapphire]

big time

[dire viper]

D2 S8's I think get zero fucking mpg

[hazy frost]

1900kg

[dire viper]

they have the high performance 4.2

[hazy frost]

4.2L v8

Estate car

[deep sapphire]

remember when ford had the triton V10

in there heavy duty vehicles

that thing got like

8 MPG combined

rofl

[hazy frost]

Do they

[dire viper]

ya

D3 went to the 5.2 FSI

which I believe the 5.2 FSI is the bad engine

[hazy frost]

Oh

[dire viper]

thats the one that requires an engine drop for any timing issues

[hazy frost]

Nah it’s a 480?hp I think engine not that one

450

[dire viper]

its petrol im assuming

no way its diesel

[hazy frost]

Making ~540

Atm

[hazy frost]

Lol

Would be funny

[dire viper]

what generation is it, is it a D4 or D3

[hazy frost]

It’s neither

[dire viper]

D5?????

[hazy frost]

Wrong car

[dire viper]

oh its not an A8

wtf is it

[hazy frost]

Nah

RS6

C5

[dire viper]

oh thats why

[hazy frost]

Lmaoo

Yeah it’s something

[dire viper]

yea nah thats cool

the og RS6 is a good car

[hazy frost]

7mpg was crazy tho

[dire viper]

since then they've been shit

ive never driven a more boring car in my life

[deep sapphire]

my cousin has a Q7 or w/e that big ass SUV is

[hazy frost]

The c5 is my favourite with the excessive flared arches and stuff

[dire viper]

Audi went from the RS name being actual great cars to just being quarter mile times

fuck you audi

go racing again

[hazy frost]

A tune got it from 450 to 540 as well

0-60 in 3.4 seconds

[dire viper]

the R8 was great BECAUSE you had an endurance and cup car racing program

[deep sapphire]

that fender decal

[hazy frost]

The end of production r8 is nice

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

so the road car got the benefit of chassis and suspension revisions because of cup car racing

[hazy frost]

Audi doesn’t make a car is buy now

Actually no

The RS3 is ok

But it’s expensive

[dire viper]

same guy who got the original Quattro approved is the same guy who got Porsche to rengineer the original air cooled flat 6 in the 911 to be dry sump

[hazy frost]

Next car I get is probably a TTRS bc it’s relatively affordable here when I have the money

But that’s like a decade old too

[deep sapphire]

audi and BMW are just cars you lease and dont bother with maintenance because thats the dealer's problem

[dire viper]

same guy who designed the first mercedes i5 Diesel

[dire viper]

same guy who got Audi to adopt the i5

[hazy frost]

Or u buy a used one for cheap in Europe and suffer

In Germany Audi is super cheap

[dire viper]

Ferdiand Piech will be missed, not because he was an asshole, but because he was an asshole in a way that got people to do nothing but the best for him

[hazy frost]

In the UK used BMWs and Audis cost nothing as well

[deep sapphire]

they are cheap here too

because nobody wants to fix them

[hazy frost]

Like I can get the mk2 TTRS for 13k

[deep sapphire]

because parts are expensive and they are usually much more difficult to take apart

[dire viper]

if you do a 3 year lease with BMW they fully cover the maintenance

you dont pay a dime

[deep sapphire]

thats what I would do

[dire viper]

the issue with BMW's, like most brands, is the consumers

[hazy frost]

I don’t like paying monthly for anything

[dire viper]

people buy them for the numbers, dont maintain them

[hazy frost]

Anything big especially

[dire viper]

they buy the car to stroke their ego its so cringe

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[dire viper]

most AMG and Ferrari buyers are this way, but not all

[deep sapphire]

do ferrari drivers even like

drive the fuckin car

im convincved they dont

[hazy frost]

Yes

[deep sapphire]

Ive seen maybe

2

[dire viper]

yea they actually do

[hazy frost]

They do here anyway

[deep sapphire]

in my entire life

[hazy frost]

I see them out a lot

But the ones here take care of them properly

[dire viper]

Ferrari actually rewards ppl driving their cars lmao

[deep sapphire]

maybe its cause I live in minnesota where you can probably only drive that thing 4 months out of the year

[hazy frost]

Lol

[dire viper]

Mercedes and Porsche still give out the mileage badges

[hazy frost]

I live in the UK it’s only summer u see people in anything like that

Even then it’s 50/50 on weather conditions

[dire viper]

even if you have an old as fuck Mercedes or Porsche you can go in every 50k miles usually and get a special grill badge

[deep sapphire]

mostly just see corvettes

which isnt anything special

[dire viper]

Porsche has grill badges up to 500k miles iirc

[hazy frost]

People here I think have a daily normally as well as whatever else

[deep sapphire]

always old people who fuckin go the speed limit in them too

[hazy frost]

Bc fuel prices and maintenance

[dire viper]

so you go to a dealer and they verify your odometer and then give you the badge

[hazy frost]

$9 a gallon is crazy

[dire viper]

I think its funny that its the old guys who buy new cars that dont drive their cars

[deep sapphire]

9 dollars a gallon wtf

[hazy frost]

They all drove 5mph under the limit to get there

[deep sapphire]

is that what you guys pay?

[hazy frost]

£1.50 a litre or something

[dire viper]

old guys who spend a million dollars on a 1973 911 2.7 Carrera RS will drive them

[hazy frost]

Atm

[deep sapphire]

fuck thats brutal

[hazy frost]

Yeah

[deep sapphire]

its 2.90 a gallon here

[hazy frost]

That’s why I’m happy about my 40mpg lmao

[dire viper]

its 3.80 a gallon for premium here

[hazy frost]

I wish

[deep sapphire]

yeah thats what it was when I filled up my chevy

non ethanol too

[hazy frost]

Things are just getting expensive here in general

[deep sapphire]

get that CORN SHIT out of my fuel

[hazy frost]

Electricity and fuel are especially bad

[dire viper]

we dont have better premium here it makes me sad

no super premium

[deep sapphire]

just use E-85

[hazy frost]

Idk what we get here bc I couldn’t afford it and being fr why would I need it

[deep sapphire]

nice 110 octane

[dire viper]

is E85 at 110

gahadamn

[deep sapphire]

in the summer it is

winter blends are more 50/50

[dire viper]

idk if my engine would explode from it

[deep sapphire]

high ethanol attracts water and in the winter that means your fuel freezes

[hazy frost]

The highest we get here is 99 octane

Or something

[deep sapphire]

99 is pretty high

[hazy frost]

From a gas station anyway

[deep sapphire]

for us its typically 87/89/91

some offer 93

and then E-85 which is much more common in the midwest where I live because of the corn industry

[hazy frost]

It’s like only shell garages here

For their premium stuff

[deep sapphire]

yeah shell has the best fuel IMO

[hazy frost]

Shell vpower is 99

[deep sapphire]

they always have 93 here

[hazy frost]

I think

Or 95

It’s not cheap

[dire viper]

11.5:1 i6 pog

thats my engines compression ratio

[dire viper]

which is standard now basically lmao

it used to be high

meanwhile Mazda

14.5:1 compression ratio

[deep sapphire]

this must be an old photo

[dire viper]

and they have glow plugs in the Skyactiv-X engines

[deep sapphire]

2.14 for a gallon of gas

[dire viper]

Skyactiv-X engines are so wild

[deep sapphire]

damn remember when we had the covid lockdown

[dire viper]

they det on compression when hot enough

[deep sapphire]

I saw gas as low as 98 cents

98 FUCKIN CENTS

[dire viper]

I love how fuel prices have nothing to do with politics and everything to do with the companies

[deep sapphire]

RULE 4

[hazy frost]

I think it’s £1.70 something a litre

[dire viper]

hank u be posting images of ppl kissin in video games general

[deep sapphire]

oh yeah you see these too

[hazy frost]

For vpower

[dire viper]

u check RULE 4 HANK

[hazy frost]

I can’t find it online

[deep sapphire]

I use 88 a lot

[hazy frost]

Which is stupid

[deep sapphire]

I think EU and US use different octane measurements

but its pretty much the same

I doubt companies would blend shit differently or w/e they do for different parts of the world

[hazy frost]

I mean u can buy E85 urself right

[dire viper]

there is a SHell next to my house that is part of an industrial fueling depot and apparently they have pump 101

[deep sapphire]

yeah if the fuel station has it

[dire viper]

I might go check it

Utah motorsport campus has pump 110

[hazy frost]

Shell is like a 15 min drive from me

[deep sapphire]

its not very popular

because you get worse mileage

[hazy frost]

My car doesn’t deserve this $10 a gallon fuel anyway

[deep sapphire]

and you need an E-85 tune

to take advantage of its high octane rating anywya

[hazy frost]

Shell is as good as most people I know use

[dire viper]

Brazil tunes go crazy

[hazy frost]

Bur u also like can’t get e85

So

[dire viper]

E85 on a VW Golf making 1000whp

[hazy frost]

Lmao

I’m weighing up spending more money on my car vs what id get out still

[deep sapphire]

Shell is really good fuel

I would agree with that

[dire viper]

whats the sticker you wanna look for in the US hank

[deep sapphire]

I think they have better quality control and an additive package

[dire viper]

top tier fuel or whatever

[deep sapphire]

top tier fuel

yeah

[dire viper]

yea

[hazy frost]

They’re also expensive

[dire viper]

there isnt a single gas station near me with that lmao

[hazy frost]

I think the closest one to me is like BP or whatever

[deep sapphire]

most of them near me have it

[hazy frost]

And it’s like 148 not 155

[deep sapphire]

BP isnt bad

[hazy frost]

So

[dire viper]

in my mini there was actual noticeable improvements in the car

that Maverik gas is shit

its really really bad

[hazy frost]

Lol

I don’t think u can get like super shit fuel here

Unless u try

[dire viper]

Maverik bought out Kum & Go and killed them

im so mad

[deep sapphire]

oh another funny thing I see is on the 93 ethanol free gas they say "for recreational use only"

like ???

[dire viper]

Kum & Go was a funny enough name to where it was like 7/11's out here and everybody would meet up at them at night for car stuff

[deep sapphire]

who fuckin cares what I do with that fuel

[dire viper]

me putting red diesel in my road tractor

cant catch me feds

[deep sapphire]

LMAOOO

I love how the entire world can all agree with that shit cause the red diesel thing is used all across europe too

[dire viper]

I get why they do it

obviously a truck driving on dirt isnt using roads, so it doesnt cause road wear so you shouldnt be paying the tax on it

[deep sapphire]

https://youtu.be/Q_UvfESHUjI?t=11 me filling up with farmer red diesel

[hazy frost]

Do u not pay road tax anyway?

If u have a vehicle

[dire viper]

dpeends on where you are at

[hazy frost]

U just pay tax here for ur car

Mines like £80 a year

[dire viper]

you pay tax on everything

[deep sapphire]

you pay it with yearly registration and from fuel

[dire viper]

yup

[hazy frost]

What’s vat in ur state

[deep sapphire]

you have to put a tag (or tab) on your license plate

once november hits you have to have the next year tab

or you can get a ticket

and you pay (at least here) what the value of your vehicle is up to a certain amount

[dire viper]

the current fuel tax is $0.365 per gallon in utah

[deep sapphire]

if you drive an old shitbox they only charge you like 30-40 bucks

[hazy frost]

That’s weird

[deep sapphire]

if you have a nice 100,000 dollar car

you will pay 500+ a year

[hazy frost]

I’m pretty sure we only do the road tax yearly

[dire viper]

yup

my grandpas ram 1500 costs like 250 bucks

[hazy frost]

And mines cheap bc my car causes like no damage to roads or environment

[dire viper]

my M3 only cost like 90

[hazy frost]

I think mines 50 actually not 80

Idk why I thought it was 80

[dire viper]

CNG is cheaper by a good amount

$0.2 per gallon equivalent

the trucks at my work are almost entirely CNG

[hazy frost]

I drive basically a polo so like

[dire viper]

love them

[hazy frost]

Yeah idk tax can be expensive here as well

[dire viper]

there is no propane tax so propane cars are the cheat

[hazy frost]

I think it’s based on like how bad car is for environment and stuff tho

[dire viper]

although I have no clue how efficient propane is

oh ok so utah has two taxes

[deep sapphire]

I think most of europe has a displacement tax

[hazy frost]

Like the rs6 is worth not a whole lot but tax is a few hundred a year

[deep sapphire]

well most of the world

north america is lucky in that they give no fucks

[dire viper]

so for my car I pay 0.365 per gallon for fuel tax, plus another 0.0065 per gallon for enviornmental taxes

[hazy frost]

I’m also like clean air zone compliant so I don’t pay the fees in London

[dire viper]

europe gives less fucks than california ngl

[hazy frost]

Lmao

And it’s better here too

[dire viper]

the restrictions they have dont effect most people cause most people dont want big sports cars

cali restrictions effect everybody, and hence effect the world market cause cali is the biggest market

Porsche, Mercedes and BMW design every car they sell around California compliance

[hazy frost]

People here can’t afford sports cars bc we get paid $2 an hour or something

Peasants

So it doesn’t matter

[dire viper]

I am gonna buy my classic cars out of the UK and deal with right hand drive cause of the price differences

[hazy frost]

Everyone drives an econobox

[dire viper]

a fucking 718 GT4 costs like 60k less

smuggle it in illegally and register it

[hazy frost]

I want that na1 nsx as a weekend/project car one day and I think importing an Acura for the manual ones would be like 20k cheaper still

[dire viper]

I like how the 25 year rule makes it illegal to import a car, but not register it

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BLB_F2P9pSI

dude just lights it with a cigarette

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-not-my-problem-sip-tea-time-gif-11560723

[deep sapphire]

I thought it was the other way around

[hazy frost]

I like how u pay less for the unsafe classic cars here

[deep sapphire]

thats usually because most people arent daily driving them

[hazy frost]

But I pay stupid amounts for my little shoebox bc I’m not 21 yet or whatever

[dire viper]

you can legally import them if they are on the historic exemption list

[deep sapphire]

or are going to car shows

and thats it

[dire viper]

its why the R34 GT-R was so abundant

some fucker got the DOT to put it on the list

[hazy frost]

£2k a year insurance on the specimen that I drive

The pleasure

[deep sapphire]

here you can get a classic car exemption but you can only put like less than 500 miles a year on the car and you have to have another vehicle

[dire viper]

so if you paid the huge extra tax you could drive it around with the historic plate

yuh

[deep sapphire]

but you dont have to pay yearly registration on it

[hazy frost]

If ur car is built 40+ years ago then u pay no taxes on it

Here

[deep sapphire]

I think its 20 years in my state

[hazy frost]

Also they don’t need an MOT

[deep sapphire]

I saw a fuckin 93 accord with them on

[hazy frost]

Which is insane

Why do u not need to safety check an older car

Yearly

Insane

[dire viper]

https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/elig120115.pdf

this is the list

you can import Audi A8's that arent 25 years old lmao

if its through a licensed importer

I think more and more modern cars will get this exemption cause manufacturers are building FOR the US market first so their cars pass US safety laws from the start

[deep sapphire]

I personally wouldnt wanna daily drive a vehicle made in the 60s anyway

most only had lap belts

rofl

[hazy frost]

Ok but why is a car made in 1983 not having to pass an MOT yearly

[deep sapphire]

crumple zones? whats that

[dire viper]

also the cars crumple to death

[hazy frost]

That seems like a terrible idea

[dire viper]

I would daily drive like a 60's 911

they have enough oomph to be fine in traffic

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_r5UJrxcck

we've all seen this classic

[dire viper]

0-60 in under 8 seconds so good enough

[hazy frost]

I’d daily drive stuff 70s-80s which is exempt here

[dire viper]

wait you can just

[deep sapphire]

though TBF that 59 used the GM X frame which was notorious even for its time for being unsafe and they got rid of it shortly after

[dire viper]

legally import a 2011 BMW S1000RR

whar

HANK

[deep sapphire]

what

[dire viper]

the 2000 DeVille is on the exemptions list

if it was built between 8/1/99 and 12/31/00

[deep sapphire]

why would that matter you can buy one

[dire viper]

yea idfk lmao

[deep sapphire]

infact why would you want to it has a fuckin northstar engine in it

[dire viper]

someone must have imported one and asked the NHTSA for an exemption

[deep sapphire]

they must be really stupid

where would you even import one

that makes no sense

[dire viper]

LMAO

the Tahoe is also there

the 2000 and 01

[deep sapphire]

imported from mexico

does that even apply for NAFTA

[deep sapphire]

I dont think it would

oh

Kuwait

[dire viper]

oh like all of the ferraris are exempt

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cANbHkd4uZQ my import from kuwait

[dire viper]

apparently mexico sold cars are restricted as well

[deep sapphire]

they dont have the same safety regulations so I guess

[deep sapphire]

US and Canada share the same safety regs

[dire viper]

oh these are vehicles that you can also drive around that dont need a show and tell license

they are straight up homologated for US market

oh this is why so many mercedes AMG's get crushed in the US

[deep sapphire]

I think most vehicles sold here are sold there too

[dire viper]

people import them themselves (not legal) instead of going through a NHTSA registered importer

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

the importer transfers the VIN legally so it gets put in the registry

Brazil gets the Dodge Rampage

im sad

its just a smol truc

mid size

[deep sapphire]

they also get the S-10 still

[dire viper]

they had the VW bus until 2014

[deep sapphire]

VW use to make a truck

maybe they still do

[dire viper]

the caddy?

they had trucks based on the old box body golf/rabbit platforms

[dire viper]

oh wtf

[deep sapphire]

amarok

[dire viper]

oh the Amarok

[deep sapphire]

probably only for europe

[dire viper]

they are weird as hell

yea they are EU only

oh shit the Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster is on the exemption list

thats so weird

[dire viper]

the normal Gallardo is also on the list so thats coolo

[dire viper]

the Rabbit Caddy

[deep sapphire]

kinda looks like the old D-10 Datsun trucks

[dire viper]

holy fuck almost every old mercedes is on the list

[hazy frost]

Oh yeah I’ve seen one of these

[dire viper]

wow the SLR is on the list?

[hazy frost]

These are also a common sight at some car meets

[dire viper]

no wonder so many SLR's are ending up in the US

you can just register them legally through an importer

[deep sapphire]

my uncle has an old 92 toyota truck about that size lmao

[hazy frost]

I saw an old skyline that was turned into a truck that size ish

At a show

[dire viper]

the 996 is on the list WHAT

[deep sapphire]

looks like this but lower to the ground

[hazy frost]

The creature

[deep sapphire]

sexy

[hazy frost]

Yeah

There were a few things like that

Japanese car event at silverstone

[deep sapphire]

these were really cool

super reliable

[hazy frost]

Small trucks were cool

[deep sapphire]

nissan hardbody trucks

[hazy frost]

2 doors

[deep sapphire]

roll bars, flood lights

https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-17950420

[dire viper]

you can legally import a bentley turbo r and get it registered with a US vin that goes hard

Bentley Turbo R(oadholding)

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/twin-peaks-twin-peaks-the-return-twin-peaks-series-part16-kyle-maclachlan-gif-9683745

[deep sapphire]

nice

[deep sapphire]

omg thats fuckin pure sex

I want one so bad

[dire viper]

the new nissan trucks dont seem so bad

there mid size

whatever its called

[deep sapphire]

yeah, frontiers

I brought them up with waffle earlier

[dire viper]

they have no frills and come standard with a lot of the good off road stuff

[hazy frost]

They’re an ok size

Most people don’t drive pickups here

[deep sapphire]

specially for the price you can plrobably get one out the door for under 30,000

[hazy frost]

Only guy close to me who does has like an f350

[deep sapphire]

an F350 in england

[hazy frost]

Yes

[deep sapphire]

that would be hard to drive

[hazy frost]

Yes

It’s terrible

[deep sapphire]

those are massive even here

[hazy frost]

Idk how he puts up with it

Idk if they even sell them here

[deep sapphire]

I doubt it

[dire viper]

I know the Raptor Ranger is super popular cause its usually farmers who buy them

and so they get a hot rod pickup

[hazy frost]

It’s not a new one so like

Idk

[deep sapphire]

the 350/3500 HD arent even good drivers you just want one if you tow heavy shit

[hazy frost]

But it would be horrible to drive

[deep sapphire]

they ride like tanks

and you cant see anything

[hazy frost]

And I never see them actually using it as a truck

[dire viper]

a garbage truck is easier to drive ngl

[hazy frost]

I live in a village and the roads aren’t big too

[dire viper]

newer ones come with cameras

[hazy frost]

So like

Idk how he lives like that

The biggest cars otherwise are like CUVs

And the idiots with range rovers that get stolen every week

Genuinely every single person I know who owns a Range Rover here has had it stolen a minimum of once

[dire viper]

why would they steal them

they are shit

[hazy frost]

Bc they’re easy to steal and popular

And worth ok money

[dire viper]

whats funny to me is that Land Rover has only gotten worse while Jaguar has actually improved

[hazy frost]

Land Rover isn’t even like

What it’s meant to be

Anymore

It’s just SUVs for rich people

[deep sapphire]

the one on the right is the same size as my truck rofl

why would anyone wanted a lifted HD truck

[hazy frost]

Range Rover is the dodge challenger of the UK I feel

[dire viper]

when I was at the hospital with my works safety guy I got to talk to him for like 4 hours and he has bought jaguars out of personal interest for the last two decades and he actually has noticed substantial improvement with them since the ford era

[hazy frost]

Ford

[dire viper]

he has an F-Type R now with the supercharged V8 and he says its had zero issues and hes driven it a lot

has put like 50k miles on it

[deep sapphire]

im assuming ford flooded them with cash

[dire viper]

about 10k a year

Ford era Jaguar was not good

[hazy frost]

Yeah I’ve not heard anyone have issues with a new Jaguar actually

But how many people actually own them

Bc I rarely see one

[dire viper]

Jaguar is now owned by an Indian conglomerate iirc?

and has been left to their own devices

[hazy frost]

Lol

[dire viper]

engineering budget went up and quality went up as a result

[hazy frost]

Crazy how that happens

[dire viper]

they've engineered the bad out of all the left over ford tech

aka the engine designs

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[dire viper]

which is the biggets issue usually

[dire viper]

we love old chevy pickups

[hazy frost]

Bad truck vs good truck

[dire viper]

true

[hazy frost]

The bed is the same size on those as well isn’t it lol

[dire viper]

I flex on non M E46 owners and park next to them

[hazy frost]

I flex on people with bicycles by parking next to them

[dire viper]

park next to them while my car is moving at 90mph and in the bike lane

[hazy frost]

Lmao

I don’t think I can flex on any car owner ever ngl

Skateboard or BMX maybe

[deep sapphire]

the newer one might actually be smaller

some are now 5.5ft

[hazy frost]

Is it deeper tho

Or not

[deep sapphire]

instead of the old 6.5ft and 8ft

yeah probably

[hazy frost]

Technically u could probably carry a bit more but depends

[deep sapphire]

my truck has an 8ft bed

[hazy frost]

Still kind of dumb

[deep sapphire]

long boi

[hazy frost]

Honestly amazing how much u can fit in just an estate car though

Or even big hatchbacks if ur only 2 people

[dire viper]

I fit a whole creeper in my M3

in the front seat

I can fit bikes with the convertible top down lmao

[hazy frost]

I got a 55” TV in the back of a mid sized estate car

[dire viper]

just put moving blankets over the back seat

[hazy frost]

Idk if it’s even an estate car or a hatchback

[dire viper]

shove in a dirt bike

[hazy frost]

It’s confused

[deep sapphire]

enough bungie cords will get you there

[dire viper]

buying the M3 makes me miss old cars more

we just need more simple lightweight sports cars

none of this stupid shit

[hazy frost]

What actually is the xsara picasso

Is it a hatchback

[deep sapphire]

never heard of it

but holy shit that is ugly

[dire viper]

Citroen names

[deep sapphire]

we dont get citroen over here

[dire viper]

yea but hank

[deep sapphire]

and dont think we ever did

[dire viper]

gulwing doors

[dire viper]

we did

very short time

[hazy frost]

Sexiest car ever made??

[deep sapphire]

oh yeah cant wait for the struts to fail on them and you have to use a stick to hold it up

[hazy frost]

Beautiful

[dire viper]

id just call it a hatch

its smol

[hazy frost]

It’s like the size of a small estate car tho

It’s bigger than a normal hatchback

[hazy frost]

It’s like bigger than a focus

[dire viper]

is the fiat multipla a hatch or an estate

LMAO

speaking of multipla

[hazy frost]

Multipla is smaller I think

[deep sapphire]

"not surprised"

[hazy frost]

Than the Picasso

[hazy frost]

Both are ugly as hell

[hazy frost]

Goes hard

[deep sapphire]

according to wikipedia its an MPV/Minivan

[hazy frost]

I see

[deep sapphire]

that looks pretty small for a minivan

[dire viper]

the og Multipla is funny

[hazy frost]

I mean I guess it kind of is

[dire viper]

Fiat 600 Multipla

they made super rare limited production versions of it

[deep sapphire]

sometimes I absolutely hate toyota designers

[dire viper]

the Multipla Mirafiori

[dire viper]

is this the Vellfire

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/full-metal-jacket-holy-jesus-what-is-that-meme-funny-gif-15283730

[dire viper]

the Vellfire is literally the limit as to what size it can be

down to a few mm's

so its the largest size in its tax class

its why the Mazda Luce looks like it does

[deep sapphire]

Toyota doesnt know how to design a good looking car

im sorry

its just the truth

[dire viper]

yea the Vellfire doesnt look great but god is it nice

[deep sapphire]

you can argue and say the gt2000

or the supra

nah

[dire viper]

mk4 supra looks kinda dumb

Mk3 i like more

Mk4 looks like an orca but even more smooth

[hazy frost]

Nah that’s amazing

Wdym

[deep sapphire]

I hate it

im sorry

I hate massive grills

they look so stupid

[dire viper]

the vellfire interior goes hard

omg

the image

[hazy frost]

GR86 is pretty good

[hazy frost]

And GR Corolla

[deep sapphire]

yeah but did toyota design that or did subaru

[dire viper]

Toyota puts Lexus interiors

in there normal cars in JP

[hazy frost]

BRZ looks different to the GR86

Exterior isn’t the same

[dire viper]

the BRZ and 86 are different yea

[deep sapphire]

I know but

[hazy frost]

The originals were the same

[deep sapphire]

they were engineered by subaru

[dire viper]

wheres the list

[deep sapphire]

[hazy frost]

The Corolla also good

[hazy frost]

Yaris I don’t like

[deep sapphire]

I love how the FR-S is on there

so you might as well add that to the BRZ

so the BRZ is way up there

[dire viper]

but the BRZ gets more speeding tickets than the FR-S or 86

mostly cause Subaru owners

[deep sapphire]

true

they gotta get to the vape shop before it closes

[dire viper]

BRZ and WRX are there

[hazy frost]

I like the celica gt four as well

[dire viper]

The Gensis Coupe lmao

[deep sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/carscirclejerk/comments/17ohb1u/ai_generated_subaru_car_meet/

[hazy frost]

Do we count lexus as well

Or not

[hazy frost]

I like that

[deep sapphire]

no, some lexus vehicles look alright

not the SUVs though

[dire viper]

the Genesis Coupe is weird

its a good car

but not?

[dire viper]

50/50 weight distribution, coupe, decent engine power, 6 speed manual optional

but its a Hyundai

so you cannot find a good one

period

[hazy frost]

I’d never own a Subaru

U cant convince me to want any of them

[dire viper]

I would own an Impreza WRX

[hazy frost]

There’s 0 appeal

[dire viper]

og

the og WRX is the shit

[hazy frost]

Actually I lied I’d own one

[dire viper]

Prodrive WRC Impreza

or 22B

22B's are unobtanium tho

500k for a WRX STi

but the 22B did do all the STi stuff before the STi was even a car you could buy

[hazy frost]

I’d own the 22B yeah

That’s a cool car

The others suck

Also the 22B is £60k so I would never buy it

[dire viper]

there is another Impreza model that was JP only

super tuner look from factory

[hazy frost]

JDM cars actually have some cool models

Even for some of the more standard stuff

[dire viper]

Impreza S201 STi

[hazy frost]

Oh yeah

[dire viper]

factory car

[hazy frost]

Now how much does it cost

[dire viper]

In 2000, STI released the WRX STI "S201", of which 300 were produced. This series is a limited production series that sports an engine output of 224 kW (305 PS; 300 hp) at 6500 rpm and 353 N⋅m (260 lbf⋅ft) at 4000 rpm as special variants were excluded from the gentlemen's agreement. The car was decked with nearly every single part from the STI catalogue. The S201 was a sedan that sported the only body-kitted S-series WRX STI. Weighing in at 1,270 kg (2,800 lb), the S201 had a tri-planar wing and a massive front air splitter. The entire suspension was composed of STI parts.

[hazy frost]

Only 300

Japan only

Most expensive generation

[dire viper]

they actually arent that expensive

[hazy frost]

I don’t wanna know

[dire viper]

not anywhere near as much as a 22B

[hazy frost]

How?

[dire viper]

nobody wants them

[hazy frost]

Surely it’s way harder to find one than a 22B

That’s crazy

[dire viper]

the car is made up of the STi catalogue

back then you could build a 1:1 S201

[hazy frost]

I’d definitely buy one out of choice between that and the 22B if it’s cheaper

[dire viper]

from parts bought at the Subaru Dealer

including the body

the last S201 I saw go for sale was like 40k USD

but that was after import

so taxes included

its like the GT-R

the R34 GT-R cost like 200k

[hazy frost]

Man they’re only like 20k wtf

Obviously with fees but still

[dire viper]

the GT-T, which is just a RWD version with slightly less power, costs 50k

[hazy frost]

The GTT and GTST are way cheaper and a similar engine

[deep sapphire]

The 2004? WRX was every kids dream car

[dire viper]

so for 150k less you can have GT-R but its just RWD only which means its more fun

[hazy frost]

Or just buy like an r33 GTR instead

(The best one)

[dire viper]

WRX STi hatchback

thats peak

[hazy frost]

Costs a whole lot less

[hazy frost]

Hate it

Kill it

With fire

[dire viper]

its my favorite STi

[hazy frost]

It’s one of my least favourite hot hatches ever

U could get a mk2 focus RS instead

[dire viper]

normal WRX body is cringe

[hazy frost]

No one makes a cool hot hatch anymore though

Except Toyota I guess

Idk why they died

[dire viper]

cause people wanted SUV's

all the people who could afford to buy the old hot hatches grew up and had kids

and so they bought SUV's or minivans

the pipeline 😭

I want a Cayenne S

first gen

[slender thunder]

How different is playing 14 from PS5 to PC?

[deep sapphire]

Performance wise would be minimal on average but Pc had access to mods

[hazy frost]

U use keyboard not controller

As per usual

[deep sapphire]

Has**

OMG WHY XANT YOU ALT TAB DURING CUTSCENES SO ANNOYING

[hazy frost]

I hate playing it on controller tbh

[deep sapphire]

You would need to rebuy the game on PC as well

If you don’t care about mods I wouldn’t waste your time

[modest moss]

you can use either on both

[hazy frost]

Does controller actually just work by default on pc

Properly

[deep sapphire]

Yeah

[modest moss]

yes

[potent arrow]

controller with ff14 is really good and a viable option

[deep sapphire]

Lots of people use controller on PC

[dire viper]

oh I need to play ffxiv

[deep sapphire]

I don’t tho

[dire viper]

I just got a game time card

[deep sapphire]

I need my WoW controls

[dire viper]

I use keyboard cause I can play with one hand usually

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

meaning I can look at instagram while playing

[hazy frost]

The movement on controller is better but I hate the hot bar too much

To use it

[potent arrow]

sus

[deep sapphire]

That’s not sus at all

[modest moss]

I want decent controller in wow ; ;

[dire viper]

playing one handed during the Scylla raid encounter

[sly elk]

idk why but for some reason I imagine you being from arizona and daily driving an f250/2500HD kinda truck and wearing oakleys

[deep sapphire]

I thought they added controller support in DF

[dire viper]

arizona is the honeypot for good cars btw

its truly zero humidity

[hazy frost]

I play FFXIV with no hands bc I forgot to renew my sub

[deep sapphire]

He talks about nothing but European cars

[dire viper]

so no rust

[modest moss]

isn't that a different guy

[sly elk]

yea I know

[dire viper]

all the good american cars had europena designers so shrug

[sly elk]

but there's something about him xD

[modest moss]

did government IT or something

[dire viper]

Corvette, GT40

european designers

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

american engineering

[sly elk]

lol today ford uses chinese designers

italian too expensive

[dire viper]

all the italian design houses are too busy designing actually good things

[modest moss]

Hank who was that other weeb with a ford

[deep sapphire]

didnt an american give you the M3

[sly elk]

like random fiats?>

[dire viper]

no cause they dont design fiats anymore

[deep sapphire]

I dont remember

[potent arrow]

someone give me me a Miata

[dire viper]

they design their own inhouse cars now

[sly elk]

american engineering is dead. long live chinese engineering

[dire viper]

or they design entire train networks

[deep sapphire]

@languid lava has the miata

[modest moss]

used to have a brown nick

[languid lava]

ive been summoned

[sly elk]

for now we've still got the aerospace industry

[deep sapphire]

anyways

im gonna try and focus on this

VIDEO GAME

[hazy frost]

I should put anime girl Stickers on my car so I get bullied

[deep sapphire]

cya

[languid lava]

shut up oldie !

[deep sapphire]

WTF

U SHUT UP

[dire viper]

miata owner

[deep sapphire]

BIG

[dire viper]

cringe

[deep sapphire]

JERK

[languid lava]

go play your easy mode

[hazy frost]

mx5*

[sly elk]

dw i'm not serious just doomin' hard

[deep sapphire]

miata**

[hazy frost]

Mx5*******

[deep sapphire]

miata

[dire viper]

Dallara Stradale

[hazy frost]

Lmao

[sly elk]

i hate the miata

[hazy frost]

Technically it’s the mx5 in majority of the world bc in Europe it’s Mx5 and in NA it’s MX5 miata

[dire viper]

Dallara makes their own car now, its goofy looking but crazy cool

[hazy frost]

So mx5 wins

[sly elk]

the miata is too perfect

[dire viper]

the Miata isnt perfect

[sly elk]

the answer is always miata

yes it is

[hazy frost]

It’s not

[dire viper]

the miata drives well

[hazy frost]

It’s kinda mid

[dire viper]

but its never had enough power

[hazy frost]

They’re overpriced now too

[sly elk]

the problem is it has no flaws

which makes it boring

[dire viper]

but it only needs like 20-50 more hp for it to be fantastic

also it needs a better steering system

[deep sapphire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lutz_(businessman) bob lutz started the BMW M division

[languid lava]

no one is buying a miata for speed though

[deep sapphire]

what a chad

[sly elk]

ah like steer by wire with a yoke?

[hazy frost]

U can get enough with light mods tbf it’s like a cardboard box in weight

[dire viper]

the current ND steering system is numb

[deep sapphire]

and now he chain smokes cigars in his garage

somewhere in detroit

[sly elk]

lol

[dire viper]

no what

it just uses a modern hydraulic steering rack