Dirt, salt and water can act like a battery that will eat everything
#technology-discussion
dire viper
umbral moss
I never took my car to the wash 
dire viper
Especially aluminum stuff
umbral moss
Just let it die 
dire viper
Galvanic corrosion is real killer even today
Cause they have resorted back to less rust proofing cause cheaper
umbral moss
Cause they have resorted back to less rust proofing cause cheaper
Also because bean counters think aluminum can't rust, only steel or iron
odd sand
So if you park it in a garage every night, you're going thru that process repeatedly vs if it stays outside and the temp isn't above freezing, that will happen far less. Especially if you're driving in fresh snow first before the trucks come out to salt, so you almost get a "protective layer" of caked snow/ice.
dire viper
Jeeps have some galvanic corrosion issues
Which is a bit funny
If you anodize aluminum it’s fine
But that’s expensive :)
probably costs only a few cents at such massive production numbers
sly elk
Jeeps have some galvanic corrosion issues
Yep super common because they were stuoid and put steel hinges on aluminum doors
With no gasket
They just finally added a rubber gasket
The good news is they are generally fixing corrosion issues under warranty but the warranty only lasts so long
The other good news is I haven’t noticed any on mine yet lmao
My Jeep still looks pretty much the same as it did the day I bought it. The only real change was the black plastic cowl cover faded lol: I bought a new one a while ago but can’t be araed to change it
worthy tundra
So I want to upgrade my PC. It's currently running Windows 7, and has a NVIDIA GT 710, AMD Sempron 140, 12 GB of RAM and it's all inside a Dell Inspiron 570 case.
This thing. (Mine's a purple one)
odd sand
At this point you mean replace, bc the only thing that would still be usable is the HDD, and even then running the OS on a HDD in 2024 is yikes
The case might still work, but the airflow in that thing looks non-existent, so I wouldn't recommend it.
kind rune
worthy tundra
So, time for a new case?
odd sand
If it's still the dell PSU in it, it's probably specced to only handle the hardware in it now, so it's probably something laughable like 230W
Give us a budget and a country and we can help picking out stuff
kind rune
needs a new case, new psu for better parts, needs a new cpu, needs a new motherboard for the cpu, needs a new gpu, could definitely use an ssd
odd sand
At this point, the integrated graphics on an intel CPU is probably better than a GT710
AMD I think only includes an iGPU if you go with their APU lineup right?
odd sand
A modern one? Sure. You can run it on a Steam Deck even.
Will it have high settings and FPS? No.
All depends on what their budget is. If they've lived with that relic for as long as they have, IMHO they could tolerate an igpu until they had more money for a real gpu if need-be.
looks like used 3050 8gb are $150-200USD on ebay
hazy frost
can an igpu do that?
5600g would perhaps
hazy frost
looks like used 3050 8gb are $150-200USD on ebay
That’s too much
U can get a new rx6600 for under 200
Which do be considerably faster
Or for a 3050 equivalent the 1660s/1070ti/5600xt something like that
Which could be like 100-150 if u look hard enough
hazy frost
AMD I think only includes an iGPU if you go with their APU lineup right?
7000 series has igpus on them all
AM4 didn’t
odd sand
Yeah I looked at the 1660ti at first, but assumed the 3050 would be better simply bc only a bit more but has 8gb vram instead of 6
But I'll wait for them to respond with a budet if they're serious, or maybe they were trolling us even who knows.
deep sapphire
AMD more like LAMEMD
hazy frost
I think you’d struggle to find a game where u can use the 8GB on those cards before u start getting 20 fps anyway
worthy tundra
Give us a budget and a country and we can help picking out stuff
Hmm... let's do $100 USD budget, and in the US.
hazy frost
U can get nothing for that
deep sapphire
A used PS3
hazy frost
Basically
worthy tundra
How about $200 USD?
hazy frost
Still not enough for a whole pc really
deep sapphire
You need like
hazy frost
Like atl $350
deep sapphire
1200 minimum to have a good experience
deep sapphire
For a full PC?
hazy frost
U rly don’t
deep sapphire
I think you do
deep sapphire
Time to clock out cya
hazy frost
600-800 will get u a completely usable pc for modern gaming buying mostly new
400ish u can do it used and play some new games
hazy frost
How about $200 USD?
How much can u spend at most
odd sand
How about $200 USD?
odd sand
I mean, you could probably find a used CPU/mobo/ram on ebay for $200 but that still leaves at least a PSU and questions on what sort of igpu would be involved.
hazy frost
Yeah
potent arrow
I've been building 800-900$ for budget 1080p computers lol
depends on what you are playing
hazy frost
U can maybe get an old optiplex and like an rx580
hazy frost
I've been building 800-900$ for budget 1080p computers lol
If ur building ‘budget’ PCs for $900 ur doing smth wrong
potent arrow
yes once again I'm back at it with my usual i3 recommendation
potent arrow
If ur building ‘budget’ PCs for $900 ur doing smth wrong
I'm Canadian
our dollar is worthless
odd sand
Yeah, I mean you slap a 13100F, Radeon 6600 w/e or 1660 super in there and you can make something passable for like $500-600
cerulean talon
Silly canadians.
potent arrow
Yeah, I mean you slap a 13100F, Radeon 6600 w/e or 1660 super in there and you c...
exactly
hazy frost
I'm Canadian
Oh yeah that’s more like it
potent arrow
you can play most 1080p games with something like that
hazy frost
Yeah, I mean you slap a 13100F, Radeon 6600 w/e or 1660 super in there and you c...
Not the 13100f
potent arrow
13100f is fine
hazy frost
Go find a used 3600 or something for like $60
odd sand
Obviously we're talking new prices except for maybe the gpu. if you want to talk used then that's different
hazy frost
13100f is fine
It’s as fast as the cheaper 5500 and 12100f
hazy frost
Well I just gave new options too
potent arrow
shinning....
hazy frost
That are better
potent arrow
The i3 is easily the better budget cpu out rn
hazy frost
It’s not
potent arrow
Silly canadians.
bro don't hurt me rn
hazy frost
It’s objectively more expensive for the same performance as the 12100f and 5500
cerulean talon
bro don't hurt me rn
I can't help it most of the time, the chaos demands suffering.
hazy frost
U can potentially get a 5600 for the same price
hazy frost
Ur paying more for the same cpu
These days I’d rather stretch for the 5600 most times but depends what games u play specifically
cerulean talon
I'd be hesitant to base any new build on a 5xxx tbh.
They're EoL, I'd almost take a lesser chip in the 7xxx series and at least take the socket advantage.
potent arrow
sigh, either way the user is going off a 200$ budget or less I doubht they'll go any higher
hazy frost
They're EoL, I'd almost take a lesser chip in the 7xxx series and at least take ...
You’re aware we’re talking $500 build here
odd sand
It's gonna have to be like some used prebuilt they could slap a new GPU into or something
potent arrow
impala wanna watch me drown my laptop in isopropyl
hazy frost
7000 series is just a definite no
cerulean talon
Tbh, I haven't looked at a low-end 7xxx, so not sure tbh.
hazy frost
Some prebuilt and a 1060/1070 or equivalent will maybe be $200
hazy frost
Tbh, I haven't looked at a low-end 7xxx, so not sure tbh.
Cpu is $150-200 for a 7500f or 7600
Mobo is $120 for a decent one
cerulean talon
Yeah, it'd be marginal at best.
hazy frost
I’d take the 5600/12400f and get a better gpu when u have less money
There’s always the 5700/5800x3d anyway which is 7600 equivalent
For later
cerulean talon
I didn't take a stop at the x3d's, how are they in terms of real-world perf?
cerulean talon
I mean, yeah, stacked die's are amazing, so it's not a surprise, and AMD's always been memory choked, so the more cache the better for a ryzen.
odd sand
This one might stay reasonable:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204780926187?itmmeta=01HXAEC4GHYEG5F5EWBCH52HA1
dire viper
im probably gonna get a 5700X3D and a 3080 or 4080 soon
already bought a top of the line mobo so im very comfy in terms of upgrading rn
odd sand
...how much did you spend on the mobo...
hazy frost
I didn't take a stop at the x3d's, how are they in terms of real-world perf?
They good
cerulean talon
I've got my mobo and proc in for RMA. I'm not happy they both shat the bed.
hazy frost
5700x3d and 5800x3d are as fast or faster than the 7600 depending on game
7800x3d is as fast as the 14900k if not faster when cache matters
cerulean talon
Sounds about right for AMD performance.
Yeah, the downside to intel is they still haven't done huge cache chips yet.
Well, not at the consumer level.
hazy frost
They haven’t rly done anything amazing recently
dire viper
its kinda nice that not having a top of the line CPU isnt that big of a limitation
hazy frost
It’s been multiple refreshes
cerulean talon
That's normal for them.
dire viper
but also GPU's are expensive and the 30 series just ate shit as soon as the 40 series dropped
hazy frost
That's normal for them.
Well there used to be cool stuff
I’d kind of like to have a 9980x or something
But they’re stupid expensive
cerulean talon
Most of my gear is server-grade now, except for my desktop, so it's all kinda in the wash for me. xD
hazy frost
I just moved away from Intel for my current pc
cerulean talon
Amusingly, I just did an intel build for my desktop, both the 14900ks and the z790 board are getting RMA'ed, so I'm on something cheaper atm.
potent arrow
but also GPU's are expensive and the 30 series just ate shit as soon as the 40 s...
the fucking 4090 nuclear bomb
hazy frost
I don’t enjoy 200 extra watts for no benefit
dire viper
the fucking 4090 nuclear bomb
lmao
hazy frost
Amusingly, I just did an intel build for my desktop, both the 14900ks and the z7...
Why the 14900ks tho
hazy frost
U can’t cool it and it’s not meaningfully faster than like the 13900k or 14900k
cerulean talon
Why the 14900ks tho
Because I can.
hazy frost
Right
cerulean talon
Which is all the justification I require. xD
dire viper
the Intel CPU on its way to delid itself from the heat
hazy frost
I wanted to get the 7950x but I didn’t in the end
cerulean talon
Tbh, after I had 2 dead 5950x's, I've got a slightly hard time buying the highest end AMD gear.
hazy frost
the Intel CPU on its way to delid itself from the heat
14900ks under full load gonna need a custom loop or delid and like 420mm AIO tbh
hazy frost
Tbh, after I had 2 dead 5950x's, I've got a slightly hard time buying the highes...
Well u also have a dead 14900ks so like
It’s just luck
dire viper
how have you had so many dead parts whar
cerulean talon
With the amount of gear that cycles through my house, it's not /super/ surprising.
cerulean talon
Yeah, they're unspurpisingly hard to get up to the clock speed's they're aiming for.
hazy frost
7950x on top
hazy frost
I know people who had issues with it
dire viper
I have a 5600X and I have a full AIO on it lmao
cerulean talon
Shrug Most of my computing needs I shove off to an epyc, it's only whatever I need for gaming really on my desktop.
hazy frost
*Shrug* Most of my computing needs I shove off to an epyc, it's only whatever I...
Why would u not have a 7800x3d
Then
dire viper
cause I bought my CPU and AIO for super cheap from a clearance sale at a best buy
cerulean talon
Why would u not have a 7800x3d
Like I said, I got bit by AMD, so i'm not happy with them at the moment.
dire viper
and I was gonna upgrade to a 5800X3D then I lost my job 
hazy frost
Like I said, I got bit by AMD, so i'm not happy with them at the moment.
So u bought a product from an actuallt bad company
Instead
cerulean talon
I still like AMD server procs (Obviously, or I wouldn't have epycs), but their desktop chips are mid for me.
hazy frost
dire viper
I scammed the best buy, the box was opened and they gave me it for like 80 bucks
hazy frost
and I was gonna upgrade to a 5800X3D then I lost my job <a:nom:93313191114298165...
AIOs are louder idle so I haven’t gotten one
cerulean talon
For the 2-4 hours a month I game, I'm sure it'll be fine and hilarious for what I want.
hazy frost
It’s just potentially slower than the 7800x3d while costing more
cerulean talon
You assume cost is something I even stop to consider.
hazy frost
Well it’s also just a worse product
cerulean talon
Anything just short of a GPU in a moden desktop build is pretty much pocket change.
cerulean talon
Shrug Works fine for what I'm doing, so that's fine in my books.
hazy frost
Sure
dire viper
if intel made something i could get for cheap and was comparable to the cheap thing I would buy them
the only thing I care about saving money on is pc shit
hazy frost
if intel made something i could get for cheap and was comparable to the cheap th...
If Intel made a good product I’d buy it
(They dont)
All the good ones are from 2 generations ago tbh
dire viper
I am about to spend like 5k on an exhaust for my car so shrug
odd sand
Amusingly, I just did an intel build for my desktop, both the 14900ks and the z7...
You just have all the luck with hardware, huh?
cerulean talon
~~I am about to spend like 5k on an exhaust for my car so shrug~~
Been there, done that, whatcha getting? 😄
dire viper
custom
cerulean talon
You just have all the luck with hardware, huh?
Pretty much.
dire viper
dont know who im going with yet
cerulean talon
My army of epycs are all happy and stable, which is what I really care about.
My desktop can be replaced in a couple hours off amazon if something goes wrong.
hazy frost
~~I am about to spend like 5k on an exhaust for my car so shrug~~
I just refused to spend 1k on coilovers and only replaced springs on mine for 140 lol
dire viper
priced out the stuff and its very expensive cause I dont want stinky titanium, cause titanium goes brittle from the heat cycling
inconel all the way
hazy frost
Exhaust more than I paid for my car tbh
cerulean talon
inconel all the way
Classy.
dire viper
I just refused to spend 1k on coilovers and only replaced springs on mine for 14...
what are your dampers going bad
the dampers themselves matter more than the actual physical spring
hazy frost
what are your dampers going bad
Coilovers rusty and the front springs just broke
cerulean talon
My car no-longer has an exhaust, or much I can upgrade. I'm hoping to build a kit car to get back to it in a couple years.
hazy frost
So I replaced all of them with 20mm lower ones
dire viper
also I would check aftermarket cause companies like Bilstein make direct OEM replacements, their B4 line of dampers are purely OEM
and usually its Bilstein/Sachs/Koni whos supplying anyways
dire viper
if they make Koni Special Active's for your car those are nice
they stay soft until you start chucking the car into corners
hazy frost
Bilstein make them and they’re not expensive
dire viper
which matters to me
hazy frost
My car is not fun to drive anyway particularly
dire viper
BMW moment
I like how I dont have to make my car louder cause its already loud as hell from factory 
hazy frost
Small hatchback I got as first car and I will not be replacing it for some time
dire viper
just have to make it sound better
dire viper
Small hatchback I got as first car and I will not be replacing it for some time
thats real
I wish I had a beater rn
but I like having an M3 so shrug
dire viper
next year probably going to sell the M3 and get a Porsche Cayman
cause the Cayman has cheaper insurance lmao
hazy frost
Lol
dire viper
also cheaper maintenance cause its reliable
hazy frost
I’ll keep working on mine until I won’t get anything more out of stock internals which won’t take long bc I have the 1.2
dire viper
1.2 liter zamn
hazy frost
Yeah
dire viper
my engine is 3.2 😭
dire viper
nah thats not bad
my old ass bimmer still does 0-60 in 4.5
from a stand point of having driven lots of cars and having worked on even more, the S54 in the E46 generation M3 is an extremely pure driving experience
I still need to drive a Carrera GT and 918 Spyder, ive moved a Carrera GT around a parking lot
not actually driven it
918 Spyder will probably never happen 😔
ive only seen two
I will be sad when I sell this guy 😔
the design ethos of the old BMW's was so much better :C
why did all the companies have to go to shit
you buy a car with a Motorsports badge now and its not at all what the old cars are like
old M3's were just a vessel for the engine
high output engine designed for a pure performance standpoint in a chassis optimized for handling and top speeds
hazy frost
Tbh the new ones aren’t that far off tho
dire viper
now its just like. yes what flavor of gaudy interior do you want attached to your overly soft "Motorsports" model
dire viper
Tbh the new ones aren’t that far off tho
they have numbers but they dont have soul
I have driven a lot of vintage cars
they arent the best car, they have character
hazy frost
M140i is a fun car tbh
dire viper
thats true
I would kill for one
dont believe they sold them in the US
we only got the 1M
cold yacht
Sometimes when I see mid 2000s or 90s bmw they look great
hazy frost
I’ve only driven one briefly to move it around and stuff when working
dire viper
and the 1M is still MSRP
cold yacht
But damn I would not want to own one
dire viper
can find them for 48-55k USD
hazy frost
dont believe they sold them in the US
Rip
cold yacht
Especially dealing with the tank I have
dire viper
the M140i has the B58 iirc?
hazy frost
I used to work at garage where next door there was performance car dealer so we got a lot of stuff in like that
I bought my car from that place actually
hazy frost
It was a trade in for an m3
hazy frost
They’re not terrible in the UK
dire viper
makes me sad how expensive they can be in the US
hazy frost
Tbf we get paid less here
dire viper
yea UK car prices are weird
hazy frost
So it doesn’t even matter lmao
dire viper
a BMW Z4 is way cheaper than in the US
but in the US they can be just as cheap depending on where you are at
where I live car prices are just higher
despite the income not being higher
its just goofy
cold yacht
A 1999 3 series is $2500 where I’m at
dire viper
the UK just sounds expensive if you arent living next to a horse farm
I have a friend in the UK who lives on a horse farm
cold yacht
Main issue no passenger seat
hazy frost
the UK just sounds expensive if you arent living next to a horse farm
I’m from the south east near London so like
dire viper
A 1999 3 series is $2500 where I’m at
E46
hazy frost
Money
dire viper
the E46's have one MASSIVE issue
Chassis is TOO stiff
so the rear subframe shakes itself apart
hazy frost
When I get a new car I need smth still practical
dire viper
if the subframe is cracked, it starts cracking the actual chassis
dire viper
I’m from the south east near London so like
oop
cold yacht
Bmw go for cheap here but down side barely any mechanics that deal with German cars here
hazy frost
What
dire viper
idk why people wont deal with BMW"s
dire viper
older BMW's are easier to work on than american cars
cause uh
they were all designed for one engine size
dire viper
instead of 2-4 engines per american model cause yes
deep sapphire
because german cars are way over engineered and they put plastic everywhere
dire viper
very few american cars dont have multiple engines being chucked in
E46 only ever got variations of the M54/S54
hazy frost
If it’s a good mechanic they should be able to work on anything anyway
hazy frost
Anything new is kind of ass
dire viper
like E46's are dead ass easy to work on
cold yacht
GMC Chevy and Cadillac oh you can find 8 mechanics in a short walk
hazy frost
There’s just less space to work in on newer cars
dire viper
pull off the engine fan and now you can do every single job on the car
hazy frost
GMC Chevy and Cadillac oh you can find 8 mechanics in a short walk
Yeah but like a mechanic is kind of shit if they can only work on 2 manufacturers cars
dire viper
rebuild your engine for like 600 bucks cheap
deep sapphire
I can go to any autopart store and they will have new parts for my 1990 rofl
cold yacht
It’s more like American and Japanese cars mechanics are I. A surplus here
dire viper
and then its the other way in europe
cold yacht
European lul
hazy frost
I got VW parts so everything is cheap asf
dire viper
walk into any store and they have BMW/Mercedes/Ford parts
deep sapphire
hazy frost
It’s more like American and Japanese cars mechanics are I. A surplus here
Yeah but like why tf do u have country of origin specific mechanics
A mechanic should just be able to work on cars
cold yacht
They do work on every car it’s just cost you a lot more
hazy frost
That’s just weird
deep sapphire
would you rather hire a plumber to fix your plumbing or hire a "jack of all trades" person to do it
dire viper
idek how audi made the worst timing chain ever when Porsche had a better V8 AT THE EXACT SAME TIME. AND THEY BOTH COST THE SAME TO PRODUCE.
hazy frost
would you rather hire a plumber to fix your plumbing or hire a "jack of all trad...
That’s not at all the same lmao
dire viper
and then the Porsche engine weighed less etc etc
deep sapphire
people who specialize in german cars is more keen to its flaws
hazy frost
It’s like would u hire someone who only works on toilets or would u hire a plumber
dire viper
That’s not at all the same lmao
nah it is here
deep sapphire
german cars arent nearly as popular here either
they are mostly all luxury cars
and most people lease them and service them at the dealership
hazy frost
The analogy was just bad
dire viper
in the US, most mechanics pride themselves for working on a singular brand or like they just work on GM's
hazy frost
in the US, most mechanics pride themselves for working on a singular brand or li...
That’s just a pain in the ass
cold yacht
Pretty much yeah
dire viper
that being said
dire viper
@deep sapphire the best Porsche shop in the country, Calus Rennsport, is ran by Cadillac techs and Buick techs lmao
deep sapphire
a mechanic will work on anything, but you dont bring an audi to a chevy dealership to have them work on it that would be stupid
dire viper
Calus Rennsport is honestly so awesome, I wanna go back 
cold yacht
Honestly tho in my town if you can’t work on American cars especially trucks cause there’s a huge Takuache culture in my town
hazy frost
a mechanic will work on anything, but you dont bring an audi to a chevy dealersh...
Dealership mechanics are often not as good as independent places anyway
Tbh
U only use them when ur covered for free
dire viper
Callas Rennsport has Porsche 911R 001
deep sapphire
it all depends, I normally agree but dealer techs usually get access to training and will have experience with the newest vehicles as they will get warranty service etc
hazy frost
it all depends, I normally agree but dealer techs usually get access to training...
It’s normally not like rocket science to figure out what to do on any new car anyway
dire viper
one of the few that wasnt crashed
yea with cars you have two sides
mechanical and electrical
cold yacht
But yeah European car mechanics are rare in my town
dire viper
mechanical is easy across almost all brands, with the exception of complex systems like AWD, DCT's and certain differentials
hazy frost
Garages here that aren’t the dealer will do anything
It’s just a matter of who does it well
dire viper
Electrical requires an entirely different mind space and set of skills
hazy frost
Electrical requires an entirely different mind space and set of skills
Yeah I wouldn’t wanna deal with it
dire viper
cause an electrical problem can be as easy as a blown wiper motor that is always on and drains your battery
but you have to figure that out
hazy frost
The place I worked at did it but I’ve got no idea about it personally
cold yacht
It’s why my cousin traded in their volkswagen for a Chevy suv just easier to maintain
deep sapphire
I wouldnt say its easy, like sure anyone can take bolts off and put them back on but if its covered in abunch of other shit that has to come off to do said part
then its annoying
dire viper
yes
hazy frost
It depends how good ur memory is
dire viper
its easy with introductory knowledge and basic know how with tools
cold yacht
Based Chevy 
dire viper
you can still do things wrong
hazy frost
If it’s ur full time job u should be good to disassemble and put it back together
I hope
dire viper
like pull apart a differential and put it back together wrong lol
RIP
this is why god invented yellow paint pens
to check gear contact
dire viper
I dont know differentials HANK
cold yacht
There’s a Chevy Cruz hatchback for sale near me was tempted to make an offfer
dire viper
thats above my PAY GRADE
dire viper
I know rebuild CV axles and EAT HOT CHIP and LIE
cerulean talon
Accurate, just get good.
hazy frost
I was gonna buy the higher trim level body panels for my car but they’re like expensive still
deep sapphire
There’s a Chevy Cruz hatchback for sale near me was tempted to make an offfer
dont
hazy frost
I cba
deep sapphire
heres the rule of thumb with GM
dire viper
also if u need someone to rebuild vintage porsche axles im ur guy
dire viper
I rebuilt around 100~ish at my last job
cold yacht
Aight the Chevy rep of the discord has spoken
dire viper
I had a day where i spent 8 hours at our press just pushing CV's on and off
it was agony
cold yacht
Thanks Hank
deep sapphire
the cruze is a piece of shit
dire viper
does it not have a V8? avoid
unless its a Ford and then you just dont buy
cold yacht
Aight
hazy frost
Most American cars are pieces of shit tbh
dire viper
whats the super tiny car Chevy built
deep sapphire
if its a Silverado or Tahoe or something those are usually safe
cold yacht
I was mostly looking at Subaru and Toyota for my next car
deep sapphire
Most American cars are pieces of shit tbh
original take
dire viper
I had a friend with one and they said it was fantastic
hazy frost
original take
It’s true
hazy frost
Some are
deep sapphire
everything is so heavily automated
dire viper
going off numbers
deep sapphire
and the reason the cruze was such a piece of shit was because the engine (which was made by opel) was prone to cracking manifolds and leaking coolant
and the turbos were tiny
hazy frost
Ford Europe is more reliable than Ford USA
Ford Europe has always been so much better
deep sapphire
and gunked up easily
dire viper
yea idk
dire viper
cause pickup truck
hazy frost
Eco boost engine is special
deep sapphire
the Coyote 5.0 is a good engine
dire viper
we love ecoboost
dire viper
we love how it literally over heats the studs and causes them to crack
deep sapphire
most ecoboosts have problems at the 100,000 mile mark
deep sapphire
Ford be like
cold yacht
Damn yall just reminded me I need to do an oil change
dire viper
I had top pull so amny exhaust manifold studs for ecoboosts when I worked at the ford dealer
it had to be at least 20% of the parts sales
and that place is the largest ford parts warehouse on the west coast
cold yacht
I’ve been putting it off for a bit
hazy frost
I only realised like a month ago the battery in my car was the wrong size and that’s why it would never start properly
Why’re people so cheap when they sell cars
Honestly
deep sapphire
they are flipping it
dire viper
tbh
hazy frost
U save maybe £20
hazy frost
On a car ur selling for like £4K anyway
dire viper
so simple
hazy frost
I think people should buy vintage cars more often
Fuel economy
dire viper
like on god, an old old civic is just a great car
hazy frost
My $8 a gallon
deep sapphire
they can become total money pits though
dire viper
they can become total money pits though
true
deep sapphire
unless you plan on going all out
dire viper
there is a big gap in vintage cars tho
deep sapphire
its not economically viable
dire viper
like an old Mercedes? parts are expensive but actual failure is very low
cold yacht
I’m just hoping I get a good raise over the summer
dire viper
the 500E Hank
deep sapphire
age will kill anything
dire viper
I WANT A 500E!
deep sapphire
does it have plastic?
hazy frost
I might buy something for CarPlay tbh it’s like £200 for modernisation
deep sapphire
its gonna age
cold yacht
And take advantage of the graduate special and toyathon
hazy frost
Not having BT in my car is just annoying
dire viper
the Mercedes 190E as well
hazy frost
And I don’t need to get in trouble for using my phone for satnav
dire viper
that car somehow is better built than any new mercedes
and it was the economy mercedes
its got a false floor
hazy frost
I WANT A 500E!
1400kg somehow
cold yacht
Yeah
dire viper
I would do so much for one of these
hazy frost
The 500e is such a weird car
cold yacht
Getting a vintage truck here is cheap and reliable
dire viper
🤤
hazy frost
I want an NA1 NSX but I also don’t want to spend £85k for a manual ever
dire viper
the 500E is a top of the line luxury sedan tuned by Porsche
so it uh
rips
faster than the RS2, M3 and M5 of the time
cause fat V8
dire viper
iirc the 500E was the fastest production car in a straight line when it came out
cause 4 speed attached to a V8
hazy frost
The rs2 and m3 would also be considerably lighter no?
dire viper
yes
hazy frost
So depends what u want
hazy frost
Yeah I mean I don’t think they’re meant to compete with each other tbf
dire viper
believe they were the same price point
they werent meant to compete but they were both refined by Porsche
deep sapphire
dire viper
500E doesnt take corners as good as an RS2
RS2 just has porsche suspension and brakes all 4 corners
the brakes even say Porsche on them
hazy frost
believe they were the same price point
I don’t think so
Think the 500e was quite a bit more
dire viper
500E was 81k once imported in the US
believe it was much less in europe
they didnt sell the RS2 in the US
hazy frost
Yeah the rs2 was like 50k wasn’t it
umbral moss
The US doesn't get nice cars, only dickass trucks
umbral moss
Because they weren't usdm to begin with 
hazy frost
3/4 cars in my driveway at home are German here lol
Only one family member has American
umbral moss
American cars have fallen so far behind
hazy frost
Comparable in weight but not necessarily the actual competitor
dire viper
true
hazy frost
The lighter one is faster
dire viper
the difference is that the 500E wasnt sold on its performance alone
hazy frost
And I feel like that’s a mroe direct competitor to the 500e than the rs2 is
cold yacht
Just get an American v8
hazy frost
It was probably more fun around a track but not as a daily
dire viper
the E34 M5 is pretty good
also the M5 has always had more comfort
M3 is as raw as you can get usually
dire viper
ooo
what was the special UK only TT they sold
it was the first gen one
TT Quattro Sport?
hazy frost
I did think it would be funny to get one of the mk2 TT engines and put it in my car but the cost of everything involved would be
Horrible
hazy frost
TT Quattro Sport?
Something like that
dire viper
yea ppl over here make replicas of the TT Quattro Sport
hazy frost
The second generation TT RS is one of the best looking cars they’ve made imo
dire viper
dire viper
The second generation TT RS is one of the best looking cars they’ve made imo
I feel like TT's are underappreciated
hazy frost
dire viper
they also didnt really sell that well in the US
hazy frost
Such a cool car tbh
dire viper
so they are proper expensive still
finding a 2nd gen TT is hard, finding one reasonably priced is impossible
umbral moss
Audi before it became the dick brand 
hazy frost
U can pick one up for not all that much too
dire viper
yes
dire viper
The mk2 TTRS had like
the TTRS was still a pure sport car
lightweight, no compromises
dire viper
only 10k pounds?
dire viper
yea still
hazy frost
The new one is obviously more
hazy frost
Yeah they’re actually good value here
Which is why I want one lmao
I don’t think there’s a better option for that price
dire viper
umbral moss
The audi casually parked in front of a frigging manor archway
dire viper
The audi casually parked in front of a frigging manor archway
UK shit
hazy frost
Fr
hazy frost
An m3 would actually cost less I think
But boring
this is more interesting imo
Atl in the UK
dire viper
E46 M3 market
hazy frost
I can get a current TTRS used for that
dire viper
the uh
hazy frost
dire viper
Audi TT just didnt sell that well in the US
dire viper
I can get a current TTRS used for that
dire viper
yea
umbral moss
Where the fuck does all the money go since everyone gets paid shit 
dire viper
average price in Utah is around 20k for an E46 M3
hazy frost
Mine was 3.5k
dire viper
I got it cause it was posted for months and the seller slowly dropped it
hazy frost
But they go for like 5-7
dire viper
Where the fuck does all the money *go* since everyone gets paid shit <:endure:58...
social services or something
umbral moss
social services or something
You'd think you get it back in quality public services and yet
dire viper
oh and russian oligarchs but I didnt say that lest I be hunted down and shot by said oligarchs
dire viper
You'd think you get it back in quality public services and yet
hey man they got a functioning transit system
that isnt poorly designed
hazy frost
You'd think you get it back in quality public services and yet
But no
dire viper
that says a lot
hazy frost
We do not
hazy frost
hey man they got a functioning transit system
This is true
umbral moss
oh and russian oligarchs but I didnt say that lest I be hunted down and shot by ...
Everyone knows oligarchs don't eliminate dissidents, they pay government officials to do it for them 👍
hazy frost
We do actually have trains atl
And technically the doctor is free even if I have to wait 7 hours
hazy frost
Man I wish I lived in the US looking at nsx prices tho
Acura ones seem to go for like 50-60 over there
dire viper
ok heres the thing about the NSX
dire viper
it costs more to own than a Ferrari
by a large margin
massively large margin
insurance is more
hazy frost
The NA1 is
dire viper
parts cost double ferrari parts prices (insane)
hazy frost
80k+ here
dire viper
yea
deep sapphire
damn just saw that new iPad Pro thats thin af
hazy frost
Like why
hazy frost
parts cost double ferrari parts prices (insane)
Honestly much more interesting than a Ferrari fr
dire viper
I bet it bends in half
set it out on a hot day on an uneven surface and its warped
dire viper
Honestly much more interesting than a Ferrari fr
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
there are ferraris at the same price point I would much rather have
308GTB
hazy frost
It is tho
dire viper
360 Modena
hazy frost
I dislike both
hazy frost
If I was buying at that price point I’d get smth else
umbral moss
I bet it bends in half
The iPad fold
dire viper
a chevy 1500 pickup has more character than an NSX
hazy frost
it has no character, which is why it flopped
The new type S is even more boring than the original
umbral moss
You're holding it wrong, it's supposed to be bent 25 degrees
dire viper
The new type S is even more boring than the original
yes which is insane
hazy frost
The original is actually interesting
dire viper
Honda internally acknowledged why the NSX failed
dire viper
yes
hazy frost
Honda internally acknowledged why the NSX failed
It failed to be bought but people who drove it praised it
dire viper
ye
same people who praised it also said it just... wasnt as exhilarating as a Ferrari
hazy frost
No one wanted it but was a great car
deep sapphire
the new acura nsx is a terrible value
hazy frost
I don’t think I’d take any Ferrari over it tbh
hazy frost
who is that car for
No one
umbral moss
The old one was too lmao
dire viper
tbh
hazy frost
The old one is a great car tbh
dire viper
car prices in the 90's and early 2000's were insane
umbral moss
who is that car for
Shitters who have lots of money and grew up seeing the og nsx in gran turismo
dire viper
a brand new M3 costs less than the E46 did brand new accounting for inflation
hazy frost
Owning a Ferrari is honestly the most basic choice anyway
When u have that money
Except maybe buying a 911 now
dire viper
well you can get a Ferrari and not be a millionaire
umbral moss
Owning a Ferrari is honestly the most basic choice anyway
The flex is a rolls or an Aston Martin
dire viper
true you should buy a corvette Z06
C5 Z06 in yellow with black interior, 6MT
the ultimate drivers car
deep sapphire
I like the4 C6 Z06 more
dire viper
THATS a car with character
deep sapphire
LS7
hazy frost
If I had an unlimited budget would still get the NA1 nsx before anything else
deep sapphire
hazy frost
I’ve never seen the type S or whatever anywhere
umbral moss
The new type s?
dire viper
this makes me feel things
hazy frost
but not something id want to drive all the time
If I could only have one car I probably would but like if I can afford that I can probably afford a daily
dire viper
If I could only have one car I probably would but like if I can afford that I ca...
I mean more that if I wanted a super car to daily, I would want something so insanely eye catching it breaks necks constantly
hazy frost
The new type s?
Original Japan only one
umbral moss
I would prefer everyone just ignores my car's existence
dire viper
nah im driving the F50 everywhere
hazy frost
that would be cool to have
Yeah it’s also like how tf will u even find one kind of car
umbral moss
Do not perceive me or my wheels
hazy frost
And how much would it cost
deep sapphire
hazy frost
There’s only a few hundred of them
deep sapphire
sound burger LOL
dire viper
iirc the Type S is around 150k USD to 200k
dire viper
cause there are some very desirable specs
hazy frost
Or whatever
hazy frost
iirc the Type S is around 150k USD to 200k
Still reasonable ig
dire viper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdkPkg_9jxM
dank pods posting we stan
hazy frost
U could buy a GT3
dire viper
a Lightweight costs a million dollars tho
hazy frost
Idk the semi realistic goal is to have the type R atl
I doubt I’ll see enough money to ever get the type S
dire viper
U could buy a GT3
or you could buy one Porsche 587/1 F1 engine
hazy frost
True
dire viper
the engine they used in the 60's F1 and the 356 Carrera 2
4 cam flat 4
literally barely any power compared to today
but the engines are so rare they cost half a million usually
believe they had 3 iterations of it
587/1 through /3
hazy frost
The 944 and 924 are cool
dire viper
if I had a milion dollars I would buy the 6GT
hazy frost
If I had a million dollars I’d buy 5 nsx type s
umbral moss
The "this is actually useless but it's history" is pure collectors territory, would not waste half a million dollars on a car I can't use
dire viper
The "this is actually useless but it's history" is pure collectors territory, wo...
very few cars worth excessive amounts of money are bad cars
umbral moss
The 944 and 924 are cool
Isn't the 944 the cheap one?
dire viper
944 was cheaper than the 911 yea
it was a superior car tho
the only thing that gimped it was power
umbral moss
I used to see 944s going for like $4k used lmao
dire viper
it had better handling and road holding tho
dire viper
I used to see 944s going for like $4k used lmao
they still do, non running
dire viper
the coolest cheap Porsche you can buy is a 924S
umbral moss
they still do, non running
dire viper
Porsche had left over bodies from the 924 when the 944 started production
so they put detuned 944 engines in the 924 body and created a 924S
so you get the better engine in the cheaper to maintain body
even with VW Transporter suspension, the 924 was on par with the 911 in terms of handling because of Porsches suspension and chassis design
umbral moss
What if I just wanted the chassis to electrify
dire viper
not even joking
it had VW bus suspension
and it drove as good as a 911
or uh if I had 500k to a million dollars
a 924 Carrera GTS
the 924 Carrera GTS used a wide body
said wide body was so good Porsche went "what if we continued the 924 but with a better body that used the wide body fenders"
and so we got the 944
also the 944 had to be made cause Porsches contract with audi for the engines was running out
and Audi wasnt going to make any more of the engine
the whole 924 and 944 story is very interesting
umbral moss
Vaporwave car 
dire viper
924 was designed for Audi via VW but then VW scrapped it, Porsche bought back the rights for the 924 for like 10 million DM which was an insane amount of money back then
924 was fantastic despite being a reskinned VW parts bin car
umbral moss
Is that during the gamma squeeze on vw?
dire viper
944 was the further evolution with a porsche designed 4 cylinder
hazy frost
U know what would be cool to buy if u had money is that final edition r8 they made for end of production
hazy frost
Lmao
dire viper
Is that during the gamma squeeze on vw?
idk anything about VW history
hazy frost
That final edition was cool af tho
dire viper
I just know the stupid Ferdinand guy sucked at designing cars hence he stole the Type 1 design
The stupid Ferdinand guy also sucked at designing tanks
hence why Henschel won every contract
umbral moss
All I know about vw and Porsche is that there was some stock fuckery that gamma squeezed vw prices like gme
dire viper
his son, the other Ferdinand guy, was so good at designing stuff he actually got designs approved!
he designed the 911 so
dire viper
That final edition was cool af tho
yea, the R8 was cool period
the TT and R8 are like
some of the biggest outliers to come out of Ingolstadt
umbral moss
When audi was aspirational instead of expensive vw
hazy frost
yea, the R8 was cool period
I despise the mk1
dire viper
you telling me the same people who designed the A4 designed the TT and R8?
dire viper
I love the Mk1 R8 and TT
hazy frost
you telling me the same people who designed the A4 designed the TT and R8?
Audi a2:
Most beautiful car ever
dire viper
oh yea I forgot
umbral moss
It looks like a frog 
dire viper
me when the 500SL and the 500E both used the V8 out of a fucking Sauber race winning twin turbo 1000hp V8 race car
its literally the exact same block
kind rune
dire viper
Mercedes-Benz M119HL 4,973 cc (5.0 L; 303.5 cu in) 90° V8 Twin KKK Type 27 Turbos
hazy frost
Actually that’s a lie Mitsubishi make great toasters
umbral moss
This is my reality so I wouldn't buy one of these super cars
dire viper
Mazda doesnt do anything other than the MX5 but also Mazda makes impressive commuter cars so they doing they own thing
umbral moss
What am I going to do with it, look at it sitting on the street?
hazy frost
Mazda doesnt do anything other than the MX5 but also Mazda makes impressive comm...
Isn’t there funny new Mazda sports car coming
dire viper
Isn’t there funny new Mazda sports car coming
yea, its probably gonna be very expensive
and not sell well
dire viper
I think its potentially gonna be a GT-R fighter
front mid engine three rotor hybrid is what the patent was for
umbral moss
mitsubishi lied and covered up defects for like 20 years
Taking a page from Mary ybarra's book
dire viper
yes
hazy frost
Make a new damn car
dire viper
Nissan ran out of money
umbral moss
Nissan ran out of money
Nissan ran out of care lmao
hazy frost
Nissan don’t make anything cool now either tbf
dire viper
the new Fairlady is just a modified 370
and the new Fairlady is very expensive compared to other cars
hazy frost
The 400 would’ve been nice if it didn’t cost so much
umbral moss
They haven't made anything good since renault
hazy frost
It’s just way too expensive
dire viper
it offers literally nothing over other similar sports cars
umbral moss
The Silvia is probably the last good nissan
dire viper
you can buy an old Aston Martin and its higher performance and the same price to maintain cause its volvo parts
DB9 gang
umbral moss
Does anyone actually make interesting cars u can afford anymore anyway
The Volvo s60 is surprisingly spicy in t8 trim
deep sapphire
Nissan doesnt have any money to make an interesting car
dire viper
idk how Nissan fell off
hazy frost
The Volvo s60 is surprisingly spicy in t8 trim
Yeah I mean that’s cool but it’s not interesting
Imo
It’s like
Ehh
deep sapphire
Nissan fell off by making garbage cars and only selling them to people who cant pay them off
dire viper
that thing is actually a ripper
umbral moss
idk how Nissan fell off
They merged with Renault and that was ripperoni
hazy frost
It’s fast but like it’s not exciting in any way
dire viper
Nissan fell off by making garbage cars and only selling them to people who cant ...
Nissan Sentra 
hazy frost
Volvo just make nice cars but they’re still boring
dire viper
the freeway missile for the masses
hazy frost
Nissan Sentra <:Pog:852657990581878854>
Sentra nismo
umbral moss
Plus the ceo of Nissan stole money from the company lmao
dire viper
thats heat
umbral moss
He's still on the run last I heard
umbral moss
The fact the juke nismo exists is
It's for dads whose wives won't let them buy a gtr
hazy frost
It’s so ugly
umbral moss
The juke is literally a focus group car, they wanted a counterpart to the rogue that appealed to men because the rogue primarily appeals to women
hazy frost
I don’t think the juke appeals to anyone with eyes
umbral moss
I kind of like it 
umbral moss
Well, Nissan isn't known for good decisions
hazy frost
TRUE
umbral moss
I wonder if they ever caught ghosn lmao
dire viper
the Volvo V60 Polestar was funny cause it had an inline 6 from strut mount to strut mount
cold yacht
I seen after market juke that was rallified
dire viper
cold yacht
Fuck Volvo
umbral moss
Literally smuggled himself out of Japan in a fucking suitcase like weekend at Bernie's lmaooooo
dire viper
Literally smuggled himself out of Japan in a fucking suitcase like weekend at Be...
wasnt half the shit he did also not real
I remember seeing that the JP execs were trying to find a scape goat
umbral moss
Probably, seems like something they'd do
dire viper
and so he ended up getting a bunch of shit thrown at him and 99% conviction rate in japan happened
basically no investigation, they went right to trying to find a way to get him to admit to a bunch of stuff that he may or may have not done
hazy frost
the Volvo V60 Polestar was funny cause it had an inline 6 from strut mount to st...
The police in the UK have the v60 t8 now
dire viper
yea
hazy frost
Kind of crazy