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potent arrow
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wait

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its one of those clip coolers

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hook onto

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these notches

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if it sborken just rotate it and use the ones perpendicular to it

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that square hole matches with those

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geeze this is an old ass system

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thats the motherboard too

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holllllllllllly

deep sapphire
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2500

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why are you even wasting your time

burnt swallow
potent arrow
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It was

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the dark era of cooler design

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Ive broken motherboards installing those lmfao

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I dont even know how to expalin where to begin

burnt swallow
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After I told him his setup is fucking ancient and pretty much not worth even attempting to salvage

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So I went through all that for nothing

burnt swallow
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That cooler wasn't made for that socket type

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So it's a miracle it even fucking fit in the first place

potent arrow
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I mean the bracket is what the cooler fits onto

burnt swallow
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Yeah

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That bracket isn't for a LGA 1155 socket

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I've got three numbers on this bracket and none of them are 1155

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But he bought a new PC instead so the whole point is moot

potent arrow
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jfc

burnt swallow
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The system he bought has a Ryzen 5 7600 and a RTX 4060

potent arrow
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yeet it in the sea

burnt swallow
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Versus that i5-2500 KEKW

burnt swallow
potent arrow
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also idk if you noticed but you have like miliary squad info in this photo

burnt swallow
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Ah fuck I didn't see it has names and numbers

potent arrow
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LMAOOOO

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I also recognize that

burnt swallow
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yeetus deletus

potent arrow
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Hawaii

burnt swallow
potent arrow
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:)

burnt swallow
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I'm here for a grand total of two more months

dire viper
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Hawaii moment

potent arrow
dire viper
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also known as the place where all the weird air force ppl are from

potent arrow
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So you really can yeet it into the sea

burnt swallow
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I could

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But

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I live in the middle of the island

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So the sea is a bit of a drive nyaissa

potent arrow
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volcano

dire viper
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you'd make it angry

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not a good tribute

potent arrow
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Throw christian in

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he drives a beemer, no loss

burnt swallow
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Bet

dire viper
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true

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throw me in

sly elk
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I’ve only had it a year or 2, and unfortunately I paid a little bit over $2,600 for it 🤦‍♂️

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^ oooof

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i think it's hilarious how the market really picked up for the motherboards and keyboards

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for a while newegg waas selling them cheap hahaha

sly elk
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TIL these were a thing

wide hill
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i think i need a better pc

sly elk
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"IIgs upgrade" was an apple IIgs but instead of the usual case they stuffed it in a friggin apple IIe case for whatever reason

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idk what that red text means

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but yea I imagine not good XD

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-headpat-

wide hill
sly elk
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thanks :3

wide hill
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a bit difficult yeah since it's only running an Intel® Core™ i7-10510U

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with the technology of Intel Ultra High Definition Graphics

real edge
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integrated graphics

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are a no-go

sly elk
inland mauve
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fullwide

umbral moss
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Is that why people die to mechanics that happen behind them?

torpid kayak
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hm Dawntrail benchmark gives me 100-110 FPS in normal average and a dip to 60-70 FPS in crowded one. Should I just set limiter to 60? 😮

lost python
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why?

torpid kayak
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dunno if I should, so I ask :d

lost python
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you are just robbing yourself of experiencing the smoothness that comes with higher fps
unless you only have a 60hz screen

torpid kayak
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144Hz one. My FF14 never reaches 120 FPS in 1440p, though

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also I read that FFXIV physics are wonky beyond 60 FPS 😮

paper tusk
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yeah it used to be really bad in shb before it was capped effects wise

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(ps3 limitations please understand)

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supposedly there was instanced of clipping under the world with a high enough uncapped frame rate (the gta 3 effect) but there wasn't much details beyond 2B glam looks like shit fix it

lost python
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the physics degrade after 30fps already so shrug

lost python
torpid kayak
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hm okay

paper tusk
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yeah it's one of those imagine taking this long to actually use the physics engine moments (the interactive grass effect in 7.0)

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instead of people wanting booba

umbral moss
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The nerfed tiddy physics if you played at high fps though concernedkeiko

torpid kayak
umbral moss
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I thought it was just some dumb leftover where they had an algorithm that integrated the velocity based on the previous frame

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So the framerate being higher lowered the average velocity

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Which is why the cloth physics go ballistic in wind environments, they just have a different weight for the averaging

celest violet
paper tusk
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    Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition: Lower GPU utilization when Reflex is set to “On + Boost” [4412035]
    Tekken 8 may randomly crash during gameplay on GeForce GTX 10-series graphics cards. [4503216]
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also new studio driver

torpid kayak
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I used AMD btw

lost python
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FSR then, but its only available in the benchmark yet. will be available in the game once dawntrail releases

torpid kayak
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I see

deep sapphire
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👁️ 👃 👁️

sly elk
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lol I can't imagine this being quality

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showed up in my vine list

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that would be fun to try if I had the equipment to give it a proper load test lol

kindred brook
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is 4080 Super a better value

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than 4090

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between the 2

deep sapphire
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the 4090 are still selling for 2000 dollars retail

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and are being scalped

kindred brook
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alright thanks

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going to make one final attempt to repair my 3080 ti if its repaired I'll just return this 4080 Super in my cart

deep sapphire
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if you arent looking to game at 4K 120+ FPS a 4090 is a waste of money

umbral moss
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Or if you need the extra memory space for genuine ml garbo

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Like there's a prosumer argument to the 4090 but is whatever you're doing $2000+ in value?

dire viper
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Yuh

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4090 is pointless unless what Hank said

umbral moss
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To be fair I did have an interest in doing a reinforcement learning algorithm for something but not a traditional waste of GPU silicon like a defective chat bot

inland mauve
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it is a waste of money, but also it kicks ass

odd sand
paper tusk
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goes through 200 burnt 4090 power adaptors (the plugs on the card side) a month

deep sapphire
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why did nvidia even make it so it connects from the top

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hell the 30 series at least angled it

kindred brook
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right now I'm running my brotherts old 970

odd talon
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So my amd ryzen 7 1800X is definitely on its last legs

deep sapphire
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well you certainly got value out of it

odd talon
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Yeah

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2017 release and it's had a pretty good run

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Some newer games can't run as well

torpid kayak
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I read that I should enable Freesync/G-sync + Enhanced Sync (AMD) + V-sync + limit FPS to 3-4 frame below my screen refresh rate (like 141 FPS for 144-hz screen)
That's a lot of sync 🤔

kind rune
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i usually do more like 5-6 under just to make sure it stays in range

odd talon
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Time to figure out if I wanna do Intel or amd again

torpid kayak
deep sapphire
odd talon
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And the ASRock X670E motherboard

sly elk
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oh right i need to run the benchmark!

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very high baby, very high

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Boo the benchmark only does 16:9

torpid kayak
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weird. I wonder why benchmark of maximum setting vs laptop (standard) setting, which I ran for fun, has similar scores 🤔

sly elk
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idk maybe your framerate is capped?

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wasn't this a way to blow up a gpu once lol

deep sapphire
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this benchmark doesnt take into account resolution or adaptive resolution

torpid kayak
odd talon
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Man, I need to go case hunting

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Also get ddr5 ram

sharp star
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Go with an O11-style case if you wanna be a basic bitch

odd sand
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premium-basic bc those are $200 cases heh

sharp star
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Lancool 216 if you don’t wanna overspend imo

odd sand
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That doesn't look like an O11 case then, that's just a normal case heh

sharp star
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You get a lot with that case

odd sand
sharp star
odd sand
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Yeah I like that design as well, and I think the North isn't bad either, but I know that one is rather polarizing.

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LCD screen on the front.

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Brand name is kinda sus tho... sounds like one of those fly-by-night Chinese brand names that makes no sense lol

sly elk
sharp star
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true!

sly elk
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but i also haven't seen anything crazy in a long time

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hahahahaha

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like lian li used to make weird stuff every year

sharp star
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I think I remember that

paper tusk
wraith agate
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I thought you meant like bench press it and I was like "weird flex but okay"

paper tusk
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I'm down to that too

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muscle is muscle

wraith agate
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Lol

paper tusk
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but my tool box is a lot more forgiving in case I drop it

paper tusk
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and benchmark is fucked on my desktop (it refuses to run in 4k)

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fucking clown fiesta settings also (can't disable dlss like on my laptop to compare)

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think i got it (full screen instead of borderless windowed

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can't imagine why this sucks when the bench res is higher than the (display) settings

real edge
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uhh

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7k for such a high resolution on the 3060ti seems good

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the 3060ti is not a 4k card

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am I misunderstanding something

paper tusk
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I'm mostly angry 24/7

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dlss preset e got it to 9157

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tht's fine

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(I'm hangry)

torpid kayak
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hm found out why there were score gaps between benchmark. Turn out I forgot to turn of Riva Tuner's FPS limiter 🤔

wraith agate
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okay so no idea what happened at home but apparently my PC refused to acknowledge any of my storages for a second

snow cypress
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My friend is trying to build a pc and wants to know if this is good

real edge
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^

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also

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liquid cooling is not required for the 7900x

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also

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get the 7800X3D

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not the 7900x

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the 7900x sucks

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""sucks""

real edge
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or

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7900GRE

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depending on your preference

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look up the gpus in techpowerup

deep sapphire
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That ram looks sus

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Yeah go with a 7800X3D, better ram and a 4070super

real edge
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those prices look sus

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as hell

deep sapphire
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Yeah rofl

real edge
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ignorant PC stores piss me off for misleading customers into thinking liquid cooling is anywhere near needed

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I am just a jobless nerd but those morons do it as a job and mislead people into buying expensive needless shit

signal fable
odd sand
# sly elk but i also haven't seen anything crazy in a long time

Define long time? There are still a number of really out there case designs over the last few years. A bunch of the angled ones where the mainboard and such are all held at a 30 degree angle from the floor, etc. Or the open ones that simply have some aluminum standoffs to hold up an accent piece of glass etc.

golden stream
odd sand
signal fable
real edge
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air cooling is very set and forget

golden stream
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personally I don't like dealing w watercooling maint headache, unless SFF niche, aircooling is just so easy to maint and clean

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but man HYTE cases are p gyattdayum, may think about getting a vchuba collab collection of em

odd sand
signal fable
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Well I won't think about it for now, I just made my new pc, so for the next 6 years I won't really have any type of problem

golden stream
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see

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and also the risk of leak and whatnot, mannnnnn

odd sand
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What watercooling maintenance? Unless you have non-AIO watercooling there is none.

golden stream
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if you lunging your system around (which is a case for SFF and prolly moving out or sort), that

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nd also I have bi-annual CPU repaste in all systems

odd sand
# golden stream *but man HYTE cases are p gyattdayum, may think about getting a vchuba collab co...

Yeah I do quite like the Y60 with the accent corner. Although this one I found yesterday is really cool. Comes in black or white case. I'm just a little sus on the brand name, but the comments claim the build quality is excellent. Also I'm not in the market for a new case for the forseeable future.
https://www.amazon.com/Mid-Tower-Hyperboloid-Separated-Structure-Motherboard/dp/B0CNKB4BGH/

golden stream
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I don't mind a bit more expensib, me simp haha

odd sand
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I have a 13900K so there isn't a pressing need to upgrade anytime soon, but I might still get a 15th gen or w/e AMD has that year if they look compelling enough. Curious if there will be any bugs or stability issues with Intel moving away from monolithic dies.

signal fable
odd sand
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Pretty sure all you have to do then is pour a bit more into the top of the cap there.

golden stream
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the later one is a bit annoying but the clip flip is ez to install

odd sand
# signal fable I never tried using an air cooler but, depending on the model it should be easie...

With an air cooler, they tend to have spring-loaded screws that need to be torqued in a specific order, but not too hard that you crack anything on the board. And the larger air coolers are very large and heavy, and you need to thread the screwdriver thru the fins to reach the screws a lot of the time. Unless something has changed recently.
Whereas AIOs it's like a stethoscope you place on top of the CPU and has speedscrews that are easy to hand tighten and then finish with a few turns of the screwdriver.

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Is there a need to drain and replace the fluid? I would think simply topping off the fluid would be good enough unless the only thing that evaps is the water and it leaves behind more concentrated coloring residue over time?

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I just meant that whatever colors it is dissolved in the liquid, so if you keep evaporating and topping it off, over time there may be enough of a concentration of it to gum up the pump or something, I dunno.

honest panther
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Does anyone have experience with mediapipe

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the Google dev tool

umbral moss
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It looks great but the dyes end up in the loop as precipitates so you need to actually flush and clean the loop every so often

sly walrus
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bitcb

umbral moss
sly walrus
sly elk
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no i'm talking about the $500-2000 oddballs that inwin and others used to make for CES

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lian li used to make em too

umbral moss
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The Lian li train case

sly elk
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my inwin is one of the more tame oddballs lol

kind rune
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why does it keep saying every download is unverified or something after i reinstalled windows

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how is this unverified furrow

kindred brook
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OK got a 4080 super at msrp the pads came in and it still doesn't boot anymore

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Could be another issue

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Going to send it someone for repair

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And see if I can reimbust some costs

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I had some best buy gift cards tho so I paid about 500 out of pocket for the 4080" super

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Which is about the same price as another used 3080 ti

wraith agate
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I think

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maybe 790

wide hill
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I GOT INFECTED BY ADS!! NOOO

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time to install ublock origin on this chromium electron instance

cold yacht
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Oh yeah discord got ads now and twitch prime like stuff

umbral moss
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Discord asking for money

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Never forget what they did to us

late basalt
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"easier" depends on the heatsink not being a right bitch to install and not having to remove chip heatsinks on the motherboard to mount it in the first place

umbral moss
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Air cooling wearycarby

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Why are people still doing this in 2024?

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It has been 2000 years since the first ape put metal on smart rocks

sly elk
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lol

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the way it turns itself around

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i am happy to see the tech advancing

wraith agate
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Well I got one so that's even lower

sly elk
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lol does anyone even use a brand other than asus anymore

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hahahahahah

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After struggling with my evga 3090ftw3 for the past 2 driver packages, I’ve gone to team red. Just swapped in my new sapphire 7900xt in my “all other stuff except simulators”pc.

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it never pays to be a brand 'loyalist' lol

neon shell
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Did anyone else have this weird issue with the benchmark were even with LOD being turned off, the characters in the background were still not clear?

burnt swallow
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Tried to help some guy who has Windows 11 add a printer to his computer and literally nothing I tried worked but I could connect to it through his web browser by typing in its ip address CeobeConfused

thorn dirge
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dunno if anyone has one, but how does the 7700 XT handle the DT benchmark at 1440p? im upgrading my old 1080p monitor soon

burnt swallow
thorn dirge
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👍

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yeah i have a 7900x haha

celest violet
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Unless I'm just held back by my 5900x

burnt swallow
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If it's max then maybe? I did High Desktop settings shycarby

thorn dirge
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yeah i'd wanna play at max, main thing im concerned about is staying above 60 for min fps, ik the average will be higher

celest violet
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You'll be fine for 60 easily

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Not sure what the overall score would be

torpid kayak
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the blue line in benchmark is the previous or current one? 🤔

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also for some reasons, I cannot use any FPS overlay

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AMD shows N/A, Riva Tuner and MSI Afterburner overlay doesn't show up,

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the only FPS counter I can use is Fraps, lol

torpid kayak
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is it normal for FF14 benchmark score to flunctate?
I get like 15-17k on Maximum and default AMD GPU setting
and 13,500-15,000 on Maximum and AMD undervolt setting 🤔

deep sapphire
torpid kayak
deep sapphire
torpid kayak
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XD

sly elk
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i got 13,000 at 4k lol with my 7800x3d and 3080ti

deep sapphire
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you just choose either or

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FSR or DLSS

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I updated my drivers supposedly that gives a decent bump

deep sapphire
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if you run it at a lower resolution you will get a much higher score

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its pretty stupid

deep sapphire
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it says 3440x1440

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oh

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uuuuh I didnt save any of the results I think I posted them in here

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why didnt I save them fuck

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wait im gonna run it again

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I'll do 1440P

sly elk
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lol

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why a kia

deep sapphire
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4K was like 19K I think

sharp star
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I get like 29k-30k

deep sapphire
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im sure if I had a 7800X3D that would help a lot

sharp star
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Probably, I did tweak the benchmark though

deep sapphire
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oh

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run it on all max

sharp star
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I did change DLSS profiles + enable DLAA + swapped the DLSS .dll

deep sapphire
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does it support 3.7

sharp star
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Yep

paper tusk
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yes both updated supersampling and full fat dlss

deep sapphire
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alright lets try with 3.7

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im assuming you had it set to always on

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otherwise what would be the point

sharp star
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use either DLSSTweaks or Nvidia Inspector

real edge
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scaling is fucked lol

sharp star
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I don’t know what metric SE uses but it’s fucked

deep sapphire
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the 4080S and 4090 probably perform similarish at 1440P anyway

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from benchmarks I've seen they are all fairly CPU limited

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the benchmark isnt great though

sharp star
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it’s really not

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I managed to eke out better scores with DLAA and preset swapping

deep sapphire
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intel has that game optimizer and it supports ffxiv I could see if that does anything but I need to flash my bios to use it

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and im just far too lazy for that

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I cant find any DLSS options under nvidia profile inspector

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also wow I havent used this app since I had my GTX 580s lol

sharp star
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Try DLSSTweaks

deep sapphire
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sorry, preset

sharp star
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For presets I don’t remember exactly, I think it was either preset C or E

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I need to check when I get back from lunch

deep sapphire
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I'll try E

sharp star
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Since SE doesn’t have profile selection I just set sharpening to 85% or 100% (effectively native) on all “presets”

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DLAA forced on too

deep sapphire
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alright, I got that on and preset set to E

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lets see what I get

real edge
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DLDSR 2.25x + DLSS always on also gives you DLAA with little to no of the upscaling downsides

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I did notice foliage being kinda screwy

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with blur but

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rarely

deep sapphire
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it barely went up

real edge
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did you set DLSS to always on?

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try fullscreen as well instead of windowed

deep sapphire
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yeah I set it to always on

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I'll try full screen

real edge
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ok somethings strange then

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remember the 27k score I had? that was without DLSS

deep sapphire
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yeah it went up a whole 200 points with it on rofl

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granted

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you cant have DLSS technically on with DLAA

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so that makes sense

real edge
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only way to have DLAA without feeling the upscaling of DLSS is through DLDSR

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I think fullscreen will do it (bring you to a more proper score)

deep sapphire
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alright I'll try it

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lmao nope

real edge
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im so lost

deep sapphire
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im pretty sure its because DLSS Tweak converts DLSS to DLAA

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you dont get the benefit of the upscaling, its running at native res with DLAA

real edge
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is your cpu boosting to whatever all-core frequency it can during the benchmark?

deep sapphire
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lmao its only using like 10 percent CPU

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its at 5.2 GHz though

real edge
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ill try with dlss always on as well at 1440p just to see

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with DLDSR the score I got was like 25k

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god DLSS makes everything look so bad

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this is with DLSS always on

deep sapphire
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are you using DLSS Tweak

real edge
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nope

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but with DLDSR I got like 25k

deep sapphire
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like nvidia control panel upscaling?

real edge
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yeah

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so

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DLDSR 2.25x which is

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4k resolution

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but

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with DLSS always on

deep sapphire
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oh

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I bet I would get similar results then, im forcing DLAA on

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its not actually using DLSS

real edge
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but the upscaling was so bad

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I wouldn't ever use it lol

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I prefer native or DLDSR + DLSS

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dumb question, you have XMP or whatever enabled on your RAM, right?

deep sapphire
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yes

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also

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this is kinda random but I was gonna update my bios so I can use that intel optimizer shit

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so I grab this old usb drive out of my closet cause I cant find one

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its got abunch of shit on it, abunch of military records or something of some guy I have no idea who he is

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all dated 2012

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how the hell did I get this usb drive

wraith agate
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Does it contain any specifications for military vehicles? I know a forum that would love it

real edge
deep sapphire
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lmao

paper tusk
deep sapphire
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it has his separation form (DD-214) in here and I dont recognize the name at all

wraith agate
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If you got an ID number you could find him prolly

real edge
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or

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if he is US

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just google the name

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lol

deep sapphire
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Being it’s been 12 years I doubt he even knows or cares I’ll just pretend I never saw anything

deep sapphire
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god I hate asus

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okay lets see if this does anything

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I GOT LESS

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FUCK THIS IM GOING TO BED WHAT A WASTE OF TIME

torpid kayak
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eh how do you use FSR in the benchmark? Does it work regardless of my resolution selection? Or only when the benchmark's resolution (say, 1080p) is lower than my native resolution (1440p)?

lost python
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painnnnnn

real edge
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I just feel bad for the folk that will always have that shit on by default with no option to turn it off and suddenly in limsa their fps drops below 60 or 30 and everything begins to look horrid

hard drift
hard drift
umbral moss
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What a fucking trap to leave someone, "oh yeah, maybe some of these outlets are wired hot to ground instead of hot to neutral, guess you'll find out"

lost python
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crazy that 3 years passed and nothing ever happened until that day

umbral moss
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Yeah, probably only ever used something with low power consumption or where it doesn't matter that ground is live

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Like a lamp wouldn't care if ground is hot, it's all the same as long as 120v are going to the socket

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Me personally, I enjoyed the two days where my mom's house was wired where the trunk ground was a little rg6 coax cable because the real ground snapped at the service pole

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Very fun experience of everything in the house going dim if the pc or microwave were on

zinc sluice
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oh

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chaaaaat

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should i be worried abt this ps4 shell bloating at the back

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Somethings pressing against it

inland mauve
zinc sluice
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ratjam

sharp star
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【37種のグラボで比較 (増えるかも?)】
GeForce RTX 40やRadeon RX 7000など最新GPUの性能をFFXIV 黄金のレガシー ベンチマークで徹底比較。
快適にプレイ可能なオススメのグラフィックボードやPCを紹介、AMD FSRやNVIDIA DLSSの効果も解説します。#FF14
https://jisakuhibi.jp/review/final-fantasy-xiv-dawntrail-benchmark

real edge
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that chart looks off

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well

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the scores are iffy

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I assume its maximum settings

sharp star
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I’m looking into the post linked in the tweet

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I can’t read it all but so far it’s done native vs DLSS vs FSR

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also head to head comparisons on a 14900K system

real edge
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Score: 27019
Average Frame Rate: 188.4732
Minimum Frame Rate: 98
Screen Size: 2560x1440

System
Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (ver.10.0.19045 Build 19045)
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 8-Core Processor
32668.875MB
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER

Was my personal result.

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But a 4090 and 14900K getting 180avg fps and 94 minimum at 1440p

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huh?

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ohh

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DLSS upscaling is from 50%

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no wonder it sucked when I used it without DLDSR

sharp star
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mhm

real edge
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what RAM did they use

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cause the 1080p and 1440p result seems sketch

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like the CPU was bottlenecked hard

sharp star
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5600Mhz

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I don’t think they listed the capacity

real edge
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yeah

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somethings up there

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with their tests

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hank gets more on a 13700k

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I get more with a worse gpu and cpu

sharp star
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weird

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I would love to share notes with these guys and see what’s different

wraith agate
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I got 25k with a 13700k and a 4090

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And I use like UHD

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Or WQHD

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Whatever it's called

sharp star
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weird because I’m getting 30k with a 4090/7950X3D at 1440p

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EXPO turned on obviously

real edge
wraith agate
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Oddities

real edge
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I will chalk it up to the benchmark being dumb

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or intel cpus are fucked in the new benchmark/graphics update or sth

sharp star
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yeah I wanna say the benchmark is dumb but I’m not gonna discount that it somehow favors X3D CPUs

sharp star
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maybe?

real edge
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their score remaining the same between 1080p and 1440p

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tells me their cpus fucked somehow

wraith agate
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Well I noticed the DLSS was set to the AMD equivalent by default

real edge
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I wouldn't recommend using any upscaling anyway

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its hard set to 50%

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looks horrible

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unless you use DLDSR

wraith agate
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I don't really use it because with 4090 I shouldn't need it

sharp star
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Or DLSSTweaks

real edge
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this benchmark seems to heavily favor X3D CPUs

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my average fps was capped by my monitors refresh rate

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on that

sharp star
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I uncapped it for the benchmark

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I'm gonna run it again

real edge
sharp star
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nope. under Nvidia Control Panel there should be a Max Frame Rate dropdown bar in 3D settings

real edge
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ohh my max framerate is already off

sharp star
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I’m getting 216FPS max and 99FPS minimum with DLSS on

torpid kayak
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12600k CPU btw XD

lost python
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at 4k or what resolution

sharp star
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1440p

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oh mb

lost python
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ah DogKek

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yeah i meant momo

torpid kayak
lost python
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i have an older 6900xt + 5800x and i get 19k at max + 1440p

paper tusk
# real edge that chart looks off

yeah when i did 4k testing it was at near max (some things like glare and reflections reduced to mirror my current annoyance free experience)

torpid kayak
thorn dirge
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the 7900x is comparable to the cpu they ran with right EosThink wonder why my min fps is so much lower

Average Frame Rate: 155.7212
Minimum Frame Rate: 73
Performance: Extremely High
Loading Times by Scene
  Scene #1    0.276 sec
  Scene #2    2.265 sec
  Scene #3    2.635 sec
  Scene #4    2.475 sec
  Scene #5    1.278 sec
 Total Loading Time    8.929 sec
System
Microsoft Windows 11 Home (ver.10.0.22631 Build 22631)
AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 12-Core Processor            
31893.301MB
AMD Radeon RX 7700 XT(VRAM 12076 MB)```
real edge
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the 7900x is worse than the intel ones I think

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for gaming and productivity

thorn dirge
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i see

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im still a little worried about 1440p dropping below 60 min but i guess ill see when the monitor arrives

real edge
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the 7900x is in a weird spot

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where 2x6 CCDs increase latency in the infinity fabric

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its the CPU that cannot decide if its a gaming cpu or productivity cpu

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so it ends up doing worse than its specialized counterparts

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also

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I do not think you're dropping below 60

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unless its in limsa with a thousand models or sth

thorn dirge
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i got mine heavily discounted, so i didnt really look at stuff like the 7800x3d or others
my old pc died so i had to rebuild fast lol

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old pc had a 1600x in it lmao i would have been toast

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also yeah

sharp star
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Now I’m getting 200FPS max, 102 FPS minimum with DLAA on

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Yeah I’m getting anywhere in the high 28-29k range

deep sapphire
sharp star
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it does, yeah

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it's probably better to not wrack my head trying to find out Square Enix's mystery scoring metric

deep sapphire
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plus I think the XX900K has a marginal performance over the XX700K skus and I believe you have a 7800X3D which is better than both

sharp star
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7950X3D but yeah

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I can turn off half the cores or do Process Lasso stuff to sim a 7800X3D

deep sapphire
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gotcha

deep sapphire
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there were some scenes I saw it stuck at 255

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Lmao ffs I’m seeing 350 FPS to 400 sometimes

umbral moss
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I feel like if the way to get more performance out of your halo product is to turn it into a lower sku, it's not a halo product concernedkeiko

deep sapphire
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oh it just crashed

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nice

sly elk
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areyou fucking kidding me

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k k i'm gonna start running linux on my gaming pc lol

potent arrow
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this has been the case for years

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its just more in your face

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most people don't even know local accounts exist anymore

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because you have to go through some hoops to do it on install lol

deep sapphire
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here's a blast from the past

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notice the packs of cigarettes and beer

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🤣

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my buddy was over

deep sapphire
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yeah I hate that, all these card makers give you a 3 year warranty fuckin scam

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I got a microcenter one they said I can exchange my 4090 for any reason so I plan to do that when the 5090 comes out lol

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LMAO when I thought taking apart my 32X would make it work in the nomad

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im sure they will fuss about it but that was their word not mine

odd sand
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FFS my coworker is driving me insane

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FIVE HOURS later and he still hasn't deployed my code changes to the app I'm working on.

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Questions. More questions. Even more questions. 20x confirmation.

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JUST. FUCKING. DEPLOY. THE. CODE.

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I did the commit last night before COB and said I need you to commit these 3 files named XYZ and batch that commit with my commit from just now and make that a PR and deploy it.

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Very simple instructions.

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He's asking me questions relating to clustering and replication and if he should delete the existing app folder and it's like ... you're the one who setup the clustering env I only half understand how it works, why are you asking me?!

hard drift
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i did the same shit and my card was actually having problems and they said they tested it and saw the same issues 😐

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and still rejected the bitch

deep sapphire
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I'll just try to get the power connector to short out

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oh yeah I remember that

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with your radeon card

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lmao they didnt even have a phone number to call

hard drift
hard drift
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i got my card from bestbuy this time around because fuck microcenter 🔫

deep sapphire
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looks like Samsung isnt doing very good

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the 5700XT was one of the worst cards they ever made lmao so many bugs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w49byd81I_Y I still dont understand why nvidia didnt just put this on the back end of the card

Vex

The 12VHPWR connector is probably the most unnecessary thing to happen to graphics cards. The 8-Pin PCIE connector has been tried-and-true for over 15 years, yet Nvidia launched this new one to many problems (it clearly wasn't ready) and IT IS STILL HAVING PROBLEMS.

It goes everything from the adaptors, the "bend radius", the upgraded cases, po...

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its ridiculous they gaslight users into thinking its their fault when its clearly a design issue

umbral moss
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They just reuse the layout and the vhpwr adapter was added when they discovered the card needed 650w instead of 275w

sly elk
sly elk
deep sapphire
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I agree completely though that being said I never had one fail or know of anyone that did

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they just had shitty feedback

sly elk
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it was developed in the days when the vast majority of desktop towers were mass produced and GPUs were like $200

deep sapphire
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plenty of times you never got that "click" feeling

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even on my 12HPWR connector I got zero feedback when I plugged both sides in

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which is just ridiculous

sly elk
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but now that we've got giant GPUs that cost $2000, adding $10 onto the BOM for a better connector seems like a great idea

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yea and even if you do seat it correctly, a lot of cases don't quite provide enough room to route the cables without stressing the connection

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hell that was true even with the old ones lol

deep sapphire
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yeah but most cards arent as big as the 4090, its not even that the 4090 is long its also really tall

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the o11 mini ironically is wider than most cases so making it have a wider radius bend isnt as difficult

deep sapphire
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right

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its just a bad design

sly elk
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lol maybe they should just make something that slots in like a g5 cpu module did

deep sapphire
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anyone knows that anything can fail unpredictably and there are meetings and checks in place to prevent most obvious failure modes and it seems like nvidia didnt do much about that

sly elk
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admittedly, if you thought landing an LGA GPU down correctly was spooky

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try landing one of these hahaha

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at least it has those 2 pegs though

deep sapphire
# sly elk

I honestly never understood design principle like this like why make something difficult to assemble

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thats how you get shitty cars lmao

sly elk
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fair, but it did have locating pegs

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you can see them on either side of the connector. but that connector is scary looking

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connector aside, I do think they should start packaging GPUs like that

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seems more practical than the whack way they attach heatsinks atm

wide hill
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Why do i pay for youtube premium and my home feed is infected by shorts

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Had to scroll ages to find the actual videos

odd sand
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Bc they make more revenue from shorts probably. It's not about you, it's about them /s

torpid kayak
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how to reach 24,000 😮

deep sapphire
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buy an AMD 3D processor

torpid kayak
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a x3D or an i9, yeah :shy:

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but they cost half of my GPU 😮

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(also need a new MB)

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back to play line98 at 4k

torpid kayak
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cool :3

solid dirge
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Specifics

torpid kayak
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my min FPS is samey

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dip so much in the crowd, combat or not 😦

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turn on voidlist plugin and have Limsa a ghost town for 144 FPS always :3

kind rune
dusky magnet
torpid kayak
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nowadays, it is X result :3

kind rune
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it was only 1 benchmark run but i got the same score on a worse gpu and cpu (couldnt replicate it afterwards Sadge)

torpid kayak
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😄

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I have a few times of bench where unvervolt is samey with default setting :d

real edge
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the japanese publication or whatever it is replied

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they said they capped their FPS to 240

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some scenes the fps jumped to 300-600 with good GPUs

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which is where the score spikes with worse systems come from

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I did not expect a reply tbh lol

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esp because I replied in english

sharp star
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huh

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Good that they replied

real edge
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machine TL is good enough for it

sharp star
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while we're at it get every monitor manufacturer on board too

wide hill
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wdym saying "sony xm4" isn't recognizable

lethal dune
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Excuse me, I require some assistance when it comes to PC building

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This is a PC build, that I'm working on

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But uhhhh

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I have a question; do I need a Network Adaptor and sound card???

sharp star
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for the cooler I think you can go with a DeepCool AK620 or a Thermalright Phantom Spirit

lethal dune
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But I was told to get Noctua, cause I want it to last for 10 years

sharp star
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Noctua is still good but they have extremely strong competition from those two

hushed ermine
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to install a ryzen 9 7900x3d cpu i need a AM5 motherboard right

sharp star
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would also not recommend a 7900X3D

hushed ermine
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is it bad

sharp star
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compared to the 78/7950X3D chips, yeah

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the 3D V-Cache is on one CCD with half of its cores so you'd effectively just get a "7600X3D"

lethal dune
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I have an AMD 5

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Is it better or should I get something better

sharp star
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AM5's solid

lethal dune
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I don't feel like buying a 9 is good

sharp star
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oh the CPU

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the most I would go with is a 7800X3D

hushed ermine
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well im lookin for either a 7900x or 7900x3d but ive found a bundle that is cheaper that includes both the motherboard n 7900x, while i can only buy the x3d seperately

sharp star
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buy the 7800X3D instead

hushed ermine
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i have a ryzen 9 3900x rn

hushed ermine
sharp star
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I know so

lethal dune
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??????

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What's the difference?????

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🤯

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I can see the difference with EVO

hushed ermine
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7800 has 8 core n 7900 has 12 does that really matter

sharp star
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whereas the 7800X3D has only one and therefore no latency issues

sharp star
hushed ermine
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the way they number them confuses me, as someone who isnt familiar w this i just thought ryzen 9 is better but the 4 numbers (3900x/7800x) after that is confusing

lost python
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the 7900x is just a bad cpu and should be avoided if possible tbh. the other options below and above it are better value.

lethal dune
sharp star
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Yeah

hushed ermine
sharp star
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it's the top dog but not like

lethal dune
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I don't know which one mate

sharp star
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ridiculous

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the 7800X3D is a steal at that price/performance ratio

lost python
hushed ermine
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will it work well with my 3080

sharp star
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yes

hushed ermine
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ok ima buy it rn

lost python
sharp star
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I checked the PCPartpicker link

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they're Australian

lethal dune
lost python
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ah okay that explains it

lethal dune
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Is this okay?

hushed ermine
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also what power supply should i have

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i got 800w rn

lost python
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800 should be fine, but it highly depends on the exact model because there are 800w timebombs and actually good 800w PSUs

real edge
sharp star
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4070 Super is currently the sweet spot but I won't complain about using a 4070

real edge
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its much better for not much more in price

lethal dune
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Is the one I had not good enough or am I being scam?

hushed ermine
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found a slightly bit cheaper one

real edge
lost python
hushed ermine
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ye

lost python
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damn

hushed ermine
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is there cheaper ones

lost python
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if you buy them seperately you wont save much. maybe 30$ at best.
im just surprised how expensive that CPU has become again

hushed ermine
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also just hope that the motherboard that comes w it is worth it

lost python
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its okay

hushed ermine
lost python
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i personally dont like asus anymore but plenty of people have no problem with them

sharp star
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same

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I personally prefer Gigabyte for hardware nowadays

real edge
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other than PSUs

lethal dune
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Wait so why AMD 5 bad?

lost python
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as long as they keep it up, i dont think i will ever take another brand other than bequiet for PSUs anymore.
every other, even corsair, always died with sparks, kicking out the breaker and a very lovely smell of burning plastics. all my bequiets only shut off and refused to turn on again

lethal dune
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Was the AMD 5 I choose not good enough?

sharp star
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oh no Ryzen 5 CPUs are good

lethal dune
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Wait so my Ryzen 5 was already good enough????

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Okay I will downgrade that

lost python
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wait what do you mean now

lethal dune
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I wasn't sure to pick between Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7

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It might be harder to find a Ryzen 7 nearby for me

lost python
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i think you mixed up the two conversations that were going on, because we advised moisty to go with the 7800x3d instead
BUT
if you can, go for the 7800x3d tbh and you will really be set for the future. but the 7600(x) isnt a terrible choice either if you really cant dump more money on it

sharp star
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nah

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also yeah it depends on your budget

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if you're willing to spend more on a CPU, go with the 7800X3D

lethal dune
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My budget is 2k USD

sharp star
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if you can't, get a 7600(X)

sharp star
hushed ermine
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ima be real w u i dont know how to replace a motherboard so ima just take it to someone who knows

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i alr bought everything n its coming tmrrw

sharp star
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The only other thing other than the cooler and the CPU I would change is the RAM to 6000, tops imo

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the 4070 is fine but it's up to you if you want to spend a little more on a 4070 Super

thorn dirge
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yeah i got a 7900x because it was super discounted, if i knew about the performance compared to the 7800x3d i would have gone with that

hushed ermine
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i have fps issue w my 3080 n im suspecting its my cpu's problem

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either my cpu or my current motherboard

sharp star
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CPU tiering is weird because when you throw AMD's setup on their Ryzen 9 CPUs it gets really muddy

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especially when their 7800X3D (a Ryzen 7 CPU) is the undisputed king of gaming

lost python
hushed ermine
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this is my current motherboard lol

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n i have a ryzen 9 3900x

sharp star
lost python
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oh

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well

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i was about to say that the motherboard is almost never the issue but... haha

lethal dune
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Wait

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So I notice something

thorn dirge
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i can't complain too much though, i mentioned it but my last cpu was a gen 1 ryzen lmao

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the 7900x is insane compared to it

lethal dune
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The shit is expensive because of the funny Australian shipping fees

hushed ermine
lethal dune
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I can go to the city and buy it

sharp star
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if you can make the trip sure

lethal dune
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Is nice being able to see the goods physically before buying it

hushed ermine
sharp star
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Big, especially for the VRMs

lost python
hushed ermine
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sorry what is VRMs

lethal dune
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Oh btw

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I think imma spend some money to get someone to build it for me cause my hand keeps shaking a lot as of late

lost python
# hushed ermine sorry what is VRMs

chips on the board that regulate the power that goes to cpu, ram etc.
they get toasty, especially when they dont have any cooling like on your old board

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and that limits performance

lethal dune
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I don't trust myself with super fragile stuff

thorn dirge
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i always have someone put the cpu in tbh

lethal dune
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Man

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I am so fucking tiny

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That I need to bring a suitcase

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If I want to shop

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Or those strollers

hushed ermine
sharp star
hushed ermine
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very well

lethal dune
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Wait

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What happen to the Corsair????

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I was gonna buy Corsair cause its cheaper

sharp star
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You can probably swap it back but I would recommend 6000 on AM5

lost python
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AMD likes proper memory speeds

sharp star
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X3D chips aren't as hamstrung by memory speeds compared to their non-X3D counterparts but AMD still likes them

lethal dune
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No

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I was like

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I saw this

lost python
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how much is it?

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because 6000mhz and CL30 would be even better lol

lethal dune
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Same price

lost python
lethal dune
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BUT

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I NOTICE THE PRICE DOESNT MATCH UP WITH THE STORE PRICE

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THE STORE PRICE IS $30 CHEAPER

sharp star
lethal dune
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Also student discount

sharp star
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if you can get CL30 then get CL30

lethal dune
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I went to their store actually

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And got some brochure

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Student discount for 20% off for all PC parts

lost python
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damn thats pretty good then

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might fit the 4070super then in there too DogKek

real edge
umbral moss
signal fable
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Wow technology

deep sapphire
potent arrow
celest violet
dire viper
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Technically I’m a student

lethal dune
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What's the difference between CL30 and CL36

deep sapphire
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get CL30

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I had nothing but problems on CL36

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I couldnt even enable XMP

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try to get Hynix brand memory too

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its hard to tell what you get so you'll have to google some people have made lists of brands that use Hynix

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Samsung is absolute trash avoid it at all costs

lost python
sly elk
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hmm mine is c30-36-36-76 😄 Fucking 36s still in there. but it's hynix shit

deep sapphire
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the first number is the important bit

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I dont think Samsung even makes CL30

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fuckin microcenter included that shitty CL36 kit with my PC

kind rune
deep sapphire
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Samsung is a trash company that makes trash products

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My 990 Pro SSD is already down to 95 percent write health yet somehow my 10 year old SSD is at 98 percent

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And yes I have the updated firmware

sly elk
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mm

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i'm glad i switched to crucial

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no more samsungsungsungsungusng

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except for my monitor. hopefully that holds up!@

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sadly they never let me buy their stupid samsungcare so when the 1 year warranty expires i've got 1 year of credit card warranty coverage and that's it

runic radish
#

Someone tried FFXIV benchmark on steam deck, rog ally and legion go?

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How was it?

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Planning to buy rog ally in the future lol

wise jay
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ya I got CL32 and its still annoying

deep sapphire
wise jay
deep sapphire
paper tusk
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hmm

deep sapphire
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disable multicore enhancement

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can undervolt a tad if you want but ASUS multicore enhancement is what fucked me over

deep sapphire
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that its bullshit

hard drift
deep sapphire
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and I will probably not be going back to intel if they are gonna be pulling this shit

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GRANTED it is sorta a mobo issue

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but im sure they were more than fine with them doing it

hard drift
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intel needs to bring in the leash on the board makers

deep sapphire
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yeah, I updated my bios and it asked me if I wanted to use ASUS or intel limits right away rofl so they know the bullshit they are playing

modest moss
deep sapphire
modest moss
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Radeon_Rick

sly elk
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(don't they have like 1 firmware dude)

deep sapphire
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no idea but they had a similar issue with AMD a year ago

sly elk
#

tbh the gaming hardware marketing reminds me of jeep mods

deep sapphire
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both are largely guilty of this shit though

sly elk
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and lots of other aftermarket car mods

deep sapphire
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remember the days when you bought a processor and it was i guess you can say "underclocked"

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when you could OC a processor sometimes 800+ MHz if you wanted

sly elk
#

obvious Jimbo with his machine shop in Kansas knows how to make a better suspension than GM does

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so buy his made-in-china $1200 suspension lift kit for your $85k silverado!

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the one that is also sold on aliexpress for $295

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to get that EV9?

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or because your neighbors think you're a fan of elon musk?

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ahh ok

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congrats?

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having more kids?

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lol

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i might have to buy a minivan grand cherokee L at some point

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i woder where those are made anyway

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ahh detroit

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good

#

i like my murrican cars

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the escalade IQ kinda reminds me of an odyssey

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wtf

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130k usd

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yea that's too much for a damn car

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and I HATE the interior

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i hate it

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at least the regular one tried to make some interesting shapes in the dash but meh even that wasn't too amazing

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idk

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do they not make a 7 seater lexus suv

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not ev huh

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the problem is taking anything and adding 'ev' makes it weigh 2000lbs more

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the R1S is a 7 seater

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they don't sell those in canada?

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i see them all the time out here

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and it does have a frrrrunk

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and it looks happy

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how about an EQB?

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hahaha i get those cost a lot though

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the EQS apparently also seats 7

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oh oh

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OH

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if i needed an ev to seat 7

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i'd want that

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is it really a vw bus? no it's not.

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but it's not bad

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195" long, 128" wheelbase. wow

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that will handle nicely i bet

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ahhahah

dire viper
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do not buy a Mercedes electric car

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they are shit

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EQS is miserable

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EQB is equally miserable

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they decided to test their next gen infotainment stuff on them and it was so rough it took a long time for the computers controlling the screen to not eat shit and die after being on for a few minutes

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super laggy etc

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the version in the new E class is perfectly fine but also the EQS/EQB is just like why lol

sly elk
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i mean it's post-chrysler mercedes lol

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they never been quite right have they?

sharp star
lethal dune
#

I have a question

#

Do I need to buy cables for my newly built PC?

sharp star
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which cables

lethal dune
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Cables to plug the PC into the power point and connect the screen into the PC

sharp star
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Monitors usually come with DisplayPort and HDMI cables

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PSU cables are usually bundled

lethal dune
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I might need