a loooot of reliability issues come from poor grounding or water ingress
#technology-discussion
sly elk
sly elk
oo i've seen those in the car before
potent arrow
yes lol
deep sapphire
sometimes I wonder if its also how people in the plant are installing the wire harness, like if anything gets snagged on a sharp corner or something
sly elk
i doubt it
potent arrow
my fucking fingers hurt looking at this
sly elk
wire harnesses are mostly preinstalled inside modules
sly elk
like the engine has its harness preinstalled at the engine plant
potent arrow
holy shite
sly elk
there's still some bits that are tossed onto the car and clipped into place though
deep sapphire
wire harnesses are mostly preinstalled inside modules
I meant more like the wire harness that goes through the cab
sly elk
yea fair
deep sapphire
I think they plug the holes with those rubber things
sly elk
it's so amusing watching cars get made where they just like
deep sapphire
w/e you call them
sly elk
use a hoist to slide the dashboard in and click it into place
deep sapphire
holy shite
LOL
potent arrow
im the worst for this, me and impala both do homelab stuff on used server equipment lmao
sly elk
like the whole preassembled dashboard with all the options already installed
sly elk
and then like
they have those torque wrenches
that are not only programmed to work exactly right, but log the exact torque for a given build
eg somewhere, the company can have a database for a given VIN, what torques the bolts were tightened to in the factory
that's so cool >>
potent arrow
I would just rust l1 tech for none server hardware lol
https://youtu.be/Jqg1G78cH2A?si=kW6wOGgSvLvqOyFc
potent arrow
I think they plug the holes with those rubber things
grommets
potent arrow
so they don't get caught and torn and then your line shuts down
and you have to inspect all 70 units you installed that day
and you cry
potent arrow
never
if we catch one unit
we have to do check them all
The worst thing is that I worked at denso in my home city, they get shipped to toyota in a city about half an hour away
sod if they catch it there
all the racks come back to us
and its because one old fart on the line didnt pop in a gromet
or missed a tar packing for the heater core
sly elk
troubleshooting sounds more fun than just building the same thinga ll day
potent arrow
yeah
I only worked at factories because I needed steady income
20$/hr 70hrs a week ish is a lot for a highschooler
modern iris
Is that even legal for a high school student to work that much?
dire viper
They just count people as salary and then ignore that no OT for salary only applies to Administrative positions
modern iris
Like holy shit I would have loved to make $20/hour in high school, or anything really. 0_o I didn't start making over $12 until three years ago. Started at Walmart at $7.45.
potent arrow
Is that even legal for a high school student to work that much?
yeah, plenty of us worked there in our senior year in the summer
20$ CAD
actually pesos
modern iris
Wait, I'm confused. They paid you in pesos?
potent arrow
kopecs even
modern iris
0_o Still, that's a hell of a lot more than I was making the day I started working.
dire viper
Yea I couldn’t live off of that lol
I have to make at least 20 to live semi comfortably
And that’s in a small studio apartment
potent arrow
yeah that's just the benefit to working hard labor at the age of 16-18$
at 70hrs a week
with continental shift
so no social life
needed the money for school and my business lol
dire viper
You don’t have your degree yet right?
potent arrow
the place I used to rent is now closer to 1600$ a month....for one bed room...house shared with 9 people
dire viper
And then you gotta get certs after that
potent arrow
I don't need certs
potent arrow
I'm getting a professional engineering license lol
sly elk
70 hours a week and iun high school
potent arrow
70 hours a week and iun high school
three summers of that shit @_@
modern iris
I live on $17.11. But my bills are cheap.
potent arrow
I thought engineers had to get certs
not really no, I can still sign off on paperwork without
certs are just extra learning for us
dire viper
Ah
Im sure some places require them every few years just to stay up to date on modern stuff
Just like automotive
potent arrow
I'm expecting a junior 90-100k salary when I graduate so I'll be alright
just gotta survive another year
potent arrow
probably
I'll probably make more if I take state offers
but that means living in the states
modern iris
I wish we had more factories in town. We had one that made rod lift equipment for oil/gas but GE bought it to steal the patents and shut it down.
potent arrow
and I'll probably get assassinated the minute I step in
deep sapphire
that sounds like something GE would do
modern iris
Yeah, I still hate GE for doing that to our town. This factory had been a staple of our town for over a century and they fucked it over.
potent arrow
@dire viper btw me and the crashed m3 guy are talking about your check valve and laughing
deep sapphire
its kinda sad how gutted the manufacturing sector is in this country
they love to trout how big blue collar is but yet fuck em over anyway
deep sapphire
yeah thats what the rust belt is
deep sapphire
most of the midwest was a major sector of manufacturing and over the later half of the 20th century was gutted hard
modern iris
Well, apparently as of last year a new company is moving into the building.
deep sapphire
potent arrow
Y
what do you think, we are a bunch of broke college students who drive kitted out shitboxes. we will take every chance to laugh at high end none shitboxes
LMAO
ok Hank
modern iris
All the industry here died off except Pilgrim's Pride. There are some European companies trying to set up shop though.
deep sapphire
I will say I think things are turning around though, with constant blunders like Boeing and the semiconductor industry which were major national security and pride sectors
potent arrow
god Boeing lmfaooo
modern iris
Why Boeing?
dire viper
what do you think, we are a bunch of broke college students who drive kitted out...
12k car tho
modern iris
How does all the planes falling apart mean things are turning around? Not being a hater, just confused.
dire viper
I wouldn’t consider it high end anymore
potent arrow
still a beamer
deep sapphire
How does all the planes falling apart mean things are turning around? Not being ...
no I meant I think its a wake up call
modern iris
oh!
deep sapphire
Boeing is one of the largest exporters in the country and were a national pride thing historically
having them constantly trip over themselves has certainly raised an eyebrow with regulators
cold yacht
Seeing the wheel fall off is wild
modern iris
We have a Lockheed Martin plant in town. I think they make missiles...?
modern iris
I mean our facility makes missiles or fire control systems, specifically.
Something like that?
dire viper
Seeing the wheel fall off is wild
It happens often enough
Lots of planes flying, landing gear failures from the rush of it
Probably the best failure to have as long as it doesn’t have to do with hydraulics failing
modern iris
"Lockheed Martin’s [REDACTED] Operations facility was established in 1995 and became part of the Lockheed Martin family in 1997. Its approximately 283 employees perform circuit card assembly, wire harness assembly and final assembly, integration and testing for programs such as the Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS) guided missile, the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) guided missile, the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) guided missile and the Tactical Missile System (TACMS) guided missile."
deep sapphire
the aviation sector is pretty intense but it can pay well
dire viper
Yuh
I kinda wanna go to school in Colorado
They have a school on the one super high altitude airport in the Rockies
potent arrow
the aviation sector is pretty intense but it can pay well
it's my dream
ratheon would be my dream company
sly elk
i used to consider them a nightmare company lol
dire viper
Ratheon is full of old heads
sly elk
i'm sure they're fine to work at though
dire viper
But otherwise I’ve heard Boeing is way worse lol
sly elk
wast just, the vibe i got from people who worked there and moved to our company was it took forever to get anything done and if you were fresh out of college you'd basically have nothing to do for your first 6 months or so
all i know is i'm staying put unless i make an industry change because wfh >>
wfh is rare
sly elk
i understand where you're coming from
potent arrow
I can't focus at home at all and it's depressing working not around people
sly elk
it is difficult at times
not working around people is a mixed bag
but also, I don't live alone, so part of it is ok
I also think 'out of sight, out of mind' happens
potent arrow
def not for me, works for others tho
sly elk
which is both a blessing and a curse
at this point though, I either do this or I'd have to work part time, or just not work at all
potent arrow
I think it's just insanity that people rather not work or work from home
like that's their only options
sly elk
also idk, I know some companies have hella nice offices
who said 'not work' was an option, I just suggest it would be rather difficult at this moment in time lol
sly elk
a lot of offices suck though
bad parking, lousy neighborhood to walk around/drive around in, few good cheap food choices
potent arrow
I've meet plenty who quit because their job went away from WFH and refuse to take any none WFH jobs and they end up on government help
dire viper
My uncle works from home half the time and there are less issues when he’s not in, management moment of when you show up everything falls apart
sly elk
even that is time-limited
LOL
one thing I found from people who had trouble with WFH though, is a lot of people have trouble with how much work to do
like when they work in the office they take coffee breaks, snack breaks, walk to the bathroom, talk to coworkers, etc
so they maybe spend half their day not actually sitting at their desk typing on their keyboard
then they start wfh and they don't do any of that, and eat lunch at their desk
and suddenly they're actually working all 8 hours
dire viper
Ig it entirely depends on what you do, if it’s daily quota stuff it’s whatever but if you are doing development work is it just the full 8 hours like normal?
sly elk
and at first they find it awesome like "I got so much done without any distractions!"
then some time later they burn the fuck out, hard
because it turns out, all those distractions are PACING
sly elk
Ig it entirely depends on what you do, if it’s daily quota stuff it’s whatever b...
yea you just learn to pace yourself after a while
eg take a break, go outside for a walk, interact with your housemates if you have any at home, clean your workspace
you just pretty much have to try and do similar things to what you did in the office
also, being 'disconnected' from the office social sphere isn't all bad
depends on your company culture, but it does allow you to see something from a different point of view your teammates might not be seeing because they're too entrenched in the office social sphere or whatever
it can be real dumb too, like all your coworkers went to get lunch and have food coma and something came up and you're still sharp
dire viper
I thought just treating it like a normal job would be obvious but ig that’s fair
sly elk
hahahha also software dev work from the office can be the same sometimes
i've definitely had days where i went in and talked to nobody
since i work on embedded gear, I have to go in sometimes
and sometimes projects call me in for support too
there's funny times i go into the lab at like 4pm and stay until like 8pm
and the only person i interact with is whoever is helping me on that project lol
i think the experience varies drastically with what you're doing, who you're working with, what your management is like, how the company runs, etc
outer sand
wfh is suicidal for me
Yeah Dev people think they are flexible and can WFH, not even 2 years later, AI swarming their job 
dire viper
You need devs to implement AI
sly elk
those parking spaces and desk spaces and required facility size for # of people... it's expensive
dire viper
You can’t just take everything that AI makes at face value
They will take leaps that make zero sense and base things on no logic
sly elk
tbh
potent arrow
ah yes the ai that auto routes my traces on my PCB in a spiral and uses 100 more vias then usual
sly elk
we have matlab/simulink and labview and UML
I'm surprised an aerospace company thinks they need software devs anymore, the system engineers can just drag-n-drop! /s
(the reality is the good software engineers also pick up a lot of system engineering expertise )
that got fun for me a couple years ago
modern iris
I wanted to go to school for electrical engineering a few years back. But I'm 32 and I'd probably die in student debt at this point.
potent arrow
that's around the same age as some of my classmate lol
dire viper
Ya cause some people work in a field related and save money up and then go to school
A lot of aviation sector peeps do that
modern iris
I don't have the time or energy to go back to college at this point anyway. My night shift job about kills me energy wise.
sly elk
A lot of aviation sector peeps do that
yeeeep
you especially see it in community college
but i saw it in uni, too
people in their 30s-40s who had a job and then decided they wanted something different/better
one person I knew worked at a drug company doing r&d and got fed up with the work and went into comsci lol
one of my coworkers was a lawyer
celest violet
I wanted to go to school for electrical engineering a few years back. But I'm 32...
At community College I had a physics classmates that was 30s. And in my uni rn one of my classmates is like 50
Electrical engineering has that pull
modern iris
I have zero background in math/physics/chemistry though. My math grades in high school were Ds/Fs
celest violet
Circuits aren't hard if you apply yourself (I could be doing better if I tried!).
And idk about where you are, but where I am I've been told above 24 you can get it paid for by fafsa
Community is pretty much so cheap if you go full time its always free. Hell I made money back going to community
Fafsa clutched because of how poor I am lmao
sly elk
I have zero background in math/physics/chemistry though. My math grades in high ...
you are not the person you were in high school, and the difference between As and Cs is how much time you spend studying tbh
modern iris
True. True. I got good grades in literally everything but math and maybe chem- and I walked out of chemistry with a C.
sly elk
i felt particularly annoyed in physics because "it's intuitive!" to some people but honestly it can take a while, like hammering a sword flat on an anvil, to gain that intuitive understanding
(I did not have an easy time with physics at first)
celest violet
If you aren't opposed to independent reading, there's a pdf that helped me understand circuit analysis better than professors and expensive textbooks
sly elk
and also sometimes some subjects come easier than others, sometimes it's the way the professor teaches, sometimes it's other things
like having 8am class when you're not a morning person
celest violet
Professors are very important unfortunately
A bad professor kills everything
I have had plenty of professors kill classes
Modern physics was ass because of a bad power point professor
celest violet
Some of the classes make me wish I picked only one major instead of dual at my uni
Electrical and computer engineering are separate at mine, so I have two majors at the expense of an extra semester and mental health 😭
cold yacht
University sucks
Community college is pretty chill helps that fafsa makes it nearly free
celest violet
I wouldn't say uni sucks. I've had really good faculty experiences. And I had some awful ones at community
Community also has issues like not offering some of the classes I needed before uni so it delayed me. Or really bad advising
Uni is too expensive, and the freshman classes suck
It's a trade off, but the transfer gives you the best of both imo
Although I do think you lose some of the nice things like more years for dorming and clubs you'd have early uni
outer sand
I mean some profession requires a degree
elfin dirge
i had that with my 2nd digital design class
DD my beloved
One of few i absolutely liked
Along with Signals and Systems ofc
sly elk
🙂
signals and systems was fun.
digital design was also a lot of fun. At my uni it was two parts - the first we went real oldschool and built digital circuits with 74LS chips and breadboards. Second part we'd do it on FPGAs instead.
celest violet
signals and systems was fun.
I have signals next semester 😭
And embedded systems in the summer
sly elk
signals & systems is just all the math you've learned up to now, finally applied to something
celest violet
Yeah, my brain does this thing where when I learn something new it wipes out old things to make room
Get to relearn 🫡
celest violet
I've had two semesters worth of breadboard shit, did a little bit of fpga in my logic systems class, but not much after that
I know I have a lab course to go with signals
sly elk
ooo
i did not have a lab with my signals class
at least, not that I can remember
the first digital lab was fun but also a little annoying because all our equipment was 1980s stuff on its last legs lol
the scopes were reliable at least
but the function generators hooo boy
celest violet
My uni loves labs.
You are given a lab guide, and you have to paraphrase and re write the entire guide in your own notebook. And if they think it's plagiarism you get in trouble
sly elk
i think by the end of the quarter only 2 of them actually worked right lmao
celest violet
I hate the oscilloscope man 😭 I'd rather use anything else
celest violet
Ours is huge and has a billion buttons tbh. And a bunch of functions that require you to pay for them
sly elk
there's some really pretty ones in the lab at work and I never get to play with them
the one on my lab bench is a simpler model
and I don't even get to play with it lol, it's setup to monitor power going into a box
sly elk
yep good ole keysight scopes
inland mauve
if you guys like embedded systems, boy do I have a game for you
celest violet
What's great is when the guides have shit directions, and the TA just mashes buttons but doesn't show you how or why it works
inland mauve
it's called SHENZHEN I/O
celest violet
Haven't done it yet and I don't think i want to lmao
Having to do embedded in person in 10 weeks over summer
Although the professor is really good, makes everything hands on and practical
sly elk
you'll be ok
also maybe look at some videos on how to use scopes
the newer ones are niice
celest violet
Probably, our labs never had tutorials
sly elk
my uni had these wonderful things in most of the undergrad labs lol
tbh they were perfect for newbies
the ui on them is really really straightforward
another lab I was in had newer tektronix ones, but also some random old ones. I used those whenever the new ones were all being used by someone haha
these
THOSE i think have a learning curve haha
celest violet
I should learn them seriously so I'm not boned on a job
sly elk
it's just that for every one of those jobs there's hundreds of embedded sw jobs
and for every embedded sw jobs there's thousands and thousands of front end web dev jobs lol
at least for now
celest violet
Yeah, an internship, or 1000s of letters of recommendations would probably be best
Allegedly a professor at my community College worked for Intel, maybe he can help me
sly elk
lol if you're good at what you do, there's tons of space companies that don't have enough EEs I think
celest violet
Kinda just want money to afford better living then I got now tbh
Not too picky, just whine a lot
sly elk
put on my airpods to listen to sound from my desktop... it plays... and then my mac pro steals em because that makes more sense ofc.
it's not even playing anything lol
sly elk
ya know, i'd like earpods... without that nasty rubber cable apple uses
like legit i'd pay $30 for a pair of earpods with a nice braided cable
but i want something with that nice smooth jshape
hmmm
still got my 2013 macbook air 13" laying around, stopped using it because it had a burning smell, and the commentary on the internet was that it's from a capacitor or resistor on the charging circuit burning out
now that I ponder ebay
maybe i should just part it out lol
wowww
dire viper
wtf is this
lmao CBD and marijuana posters
we get it, you talk about how you dont have an addiction and you can stop whenever you want 
sly elk
they said the top was custom made by a friend to fit in a window nook
check out the figures!
the fishtank-like display isthe one that weirds me out though
idk why but it weirds me out
dire viper
bro is not allowed within 10 feet of me
dire viper
also these are all seasonal anime characters 
dire viper
Isekai 
sly elk
dire viper
maybe I was too quick to say he
sly elk
those are also like
dire viper
that one haiku figure
sly elk
the only two not-fanservice figures
dire viper
maybe a woman
sly elk
anyway the figures aren't really that weird, i just find the placement of the boxes so odd lol
it's like a centerpiece
wise jay
i won that one. it looks really bad in person
wise jay
ya the sculpt is piss poor
theres a non prize version but Ive never seen someone with it
sly elk
the anime might not be life changing and honestly he's a bit of a mary sue character but
it's kinda endearing and funny in its own right
i'd take a rimuru figure :3
dire viper
it was another one of those shows that got hyped up and it was just so mediocre
sly elk
i've watched worse
wise jay
I have a different recolor of that Erza Scarlet figure though. its really good
dire viper
like I think Demon Slayer would have been absolutely trashed if it wasnt Ufotable doing the adaptation
sly elk
lol
wise jay
easily
dire viper
og demon slayer bad
Ufotable demon slayer only has good animation
otherwise it has the same uh
very bland story
well
it has ok plot beats ig
wise jay
I believe people said they changed the story a bit but its still not good
dire viper
but shonen protag who just gets to win
would rather watch the Ufotable fates 😔
UBW goes hard
wise jay
also the anime for Slime is fine. ive read some of the light novel and its pretty bad
sly elk
sly elk
very bland story
i already forgot what they call those kinda earrings
even though some dude keeps saying the name of them in the anime lol
wise jay
hanafuda
sly elk
i kinda want some. i don't think my mom would approve. actually i'm not sure anyone would approve.
i find the furniture layout in my corner of the living room really annoying
oh well.
dire viper
If I see another demon slayer plushie in a really shitty clapped out civic or integra I’m gonna lose it
outer sand
If I see another demon slayer plushie in a really shitty clapped out civic or in...
tbh I'm still amazed still seeing people doing civic/integra when automatic electric car lying around
are they still a better option for mod, with the launch of 86 and brz, I thought they will take over alongside miata
outer sand
i kinda want some. i don't think my mom would approve. actually i'm not sure _an...
you want to wear an earring? 👀
Hanafuda in particular? that will turn head for sure, even in Japan
dire viper
I mean Civic and the Integra are way cheaper
outer sand
idk why my surface 6 starting to lag, did I do something wrong?
I spent a lot of time downgrading from 11 to 10, same result, what the heck
sly elk
you want to wear an earring? 👀
how about two xD why just one
i think wearing one earring is silly
don't half ass things
outer sand
ah right, that's what I meant 👀 sorry
sly elk
that baller macrumors setup
dual XDRs
admittedly being driven off a macbook pro lol
the mini town doesnt' fit with the decor at all though
this one looks really nice though
sly elk
hehe 😄
yes yes the magic mouse is crap
i never minded the old designs, though the mighty mouse's scroll ball was seriously weird
outer sand
I dont really understand my surface, sometimes it's laggy, sometimes it's not, is it temperature problem?
sly elk
perhaps. maybe keep task manager open and see if anything goes nuts when it lags?
potent arrow
I mean
surfaces are notorious for temperature issues
like it gets so hot it discolors the screen and it is the primary reason for their premature deaths
A lot of smaller business I work with Ive phased them out for that reason
outer sand
ic ic, good to know I'll see what I could do
potent arrow
ic ic, good to know I'll see what I could do
I encourage people to leave the dumb kickstand open and never leave it on their laps or blankets
outer sand
ah yeah I always use the kickstand, even when I'm taking notes
the kickstand is actually what I like when I'm writing, lol
outer sand
anyone knows what truck is this?
google say peterbilt 379, but not sure if it's correct, seems heavily modified
wraith agate
Optimus Prime but evil
pine thistle
anyone knows what truck is this?
https://theamazoeffect.blogspot.com/2013/02/2002-peterbuilt-379-outlaw-trucking.html?m=1
Built as a promotional tool by Denver-based Outlaw Customs for Training Day, a sports nutrition company, they have purposely steered clear of the usual truck bling in favour of something entirely more stealthy;
wraith agate
Ah yes my favorite, stealth truck
wraith agate
MODS SPIN HIM
royal forge
mood
wise jay
Optimus Prime but evil
Nemesis Prime
deep sapphire
anyone knows what truck is this?
dire viper
the masculine urge to own a Peterbilt just to drive it around for fun
deep sapphire
my dad was a trucker but he drove volvos
dire viper
Volvos are also pretty nice
ive been in some of the off road haulers and its as comfy as a normal volvo car
deep sapphire
he loved them, he told me a story how they had a fleet of these shitty fords that rarely started in the winter and then got some volvos and they always started and had way nicer cabs haha
dire viper
Volvo sweep
dire viper
lmao mark zuckerburg openly saying the apple vision pro is just bad compared to the Quest 3
"Not impressed"
umbral moss
Well, it was designed in USA and made in China using Chinese parts and labor
That counts still, right
deep sapphire
according to comments they actually did make most of the components like the motors, molds, coils etc in the US plants but the circuit boards and batteries made elsewhere
sly elk
That counts still, right
ehhh
not really
imho companies like dewalt/milwaukee lose their competitive edge by doing that
it's like if ford was like, welp, no more cars made in the US, we'll just resell chinese cars
why the hell would anyone buy a ford then?
it'd just be another poser brand like RCA, Zenith, Westinghouse, and "Bell and Howell"
(B&H was apparently a legit american brand back in the olden days)
hahhahhaha
or Hewlett Packard 😄
there was a time when they made electronics legit test equipment before they spunt hat off
umbral moss
not really
sly elk
that said it's pretty funny watching companies destroy their brand doing that hahah
umbral moss
prime current
hello every one and i have a question and need help please
prime current
hello every one and i have a question and need help please
im trying to watch something and im on a pc and i can watch this on apple tv and which i have subscription to and on my pc says " watch in itunes and i have an apple tv device and how i can get this link to it so i can watch it or my LG tv ???
sly elk
that question is a little bit tricky to follow
so you have an LG TV - a smart TV without an "apple tv" box connected to it, right? Does the LG smart tv have the "apple tv" app on it?
prime current
i found something to watch on pc and i found what i was looking for and im logged to my appte account
i do have apple tv app on my tv
but my question what i found on pc and how do i get it to play it which i willing to rent and wanted to watch it on my apple tv device or lg tv
am i making it clear ?
sly elk
it should show up in your library when you use the apple tv device or the lg tv
like you wouldn't start the show from your pc, you should just be able to select it from the tv/device
prime current
i got it working and thx
my concern was if i did it through the pc and how to watch it on a different device once i chose and pay at my option and i did not want to be stuck on something
sly elk
i mean ofc
it's DELL we';re talking about
that company is the definition of fuck you lol
sharp star
Dull
sly walrus
solid panther
Time to see how much I can sell a 2070s and a ryzen 5 5600x for
The Ryzen is like 3 months old, but the 2070s has had some use
real edge
5600x you can probably sell for like
100euro or so?
if I had to take a guess
90-100
lost python
its often on sale new for like 100-110 so used would be more like 80
so probably 100USD or 150 AUD 
solid panther
Yeah thats kind of what I was thinking. Though I could probably get more if I check local marketplace and see what they were selling for in the area
People will pay for convenience of not having to wait for postage
2070s goes for like 250 AUD here
used
r5 5500 is like 110aud used locally
I got a slightly better model so might be able to make the jump to 150
Hoping I can get enough selling the parts to finance a 1440p IPS monitor
real edge
lost python
whew
well 1440p 120+hz and ips isnt that expensive to get anymore at 27"
nhadala can probably list you a bunch for a budget
solid panther
Believe so yeah
I want an oled monitor because its annoying having an oled TV but not monitor
But the prices on those can get a lil wild
So I'll settle for IPS for now
lost python
a lil
i am still not convinced by OLED. especially not on PC where you deal with 30fps, or similar, content so often because that shits laggy
and monitors dont usually come with some image smoothening feature like TVs do
solid panther
The newer model OLED monitors are quite good though
But they're also insanely expensive
lost python
OLED technology by itself is still laggy as fuck on low framerate content
because you have the ultra low latency that virtually doesnt exist
solid panther
Yeah I could understand that, but I've been using my TV for things like youtube and havent really noticed it
My biggest fear has always been burn in, but regular usage for the last year or so hasnt had any issues
lost python
on pc that chance is ofc a lil higher because the amount of time you have static things showing is so much higher
but some of the better models apparently have well working solutions for that
but the infamous oled stutter is one of the biggest reasons i decided against one and just went with a miniLED TV instead that has a couple thousand dimming zones
solid panther
Newer OLEDs are apparently so much better that it isnt really an issue unless you're actively trying to fuck with it
lost python
plus OLED doesnt get nearly as bright as other technologies and i actually want a good HDR experience on my big screen
solid panther
Fair, but I also play in a practically black room
I never turn my lights on
I probably wouldnt use an OLED in my living room cause its more brightly lit
Apparently newer models not out yet are like twice as bright peak nit as current models
So we'll see
lost python
nice, then they can reach the 1000nit finally 
i still hope for some successor that is cheaper to produce though 
solid panther
Yeeah I think we'll get there eventually. OLED is still fairly new all things considered and its improving a ton with each generation
So eventually it should go down
One thing I'm not sold on though, is 4k for computer gaming
Its just way way too resource expensive to maintain
1440p 144hz has kind of been my sweetspot
Since i'm jumping from a 2070s to a 4070ti super or whatever the fuck they call it now, 1440p is kind of the goal
lost python
eh it depends. for anything bigger than 27" i would not want to go 1440p again
my 1440p at 32" are really pushing the limits and i would much prefer 4k
sly elk
I don't want oled for my computer monitor but it looks amazing on tvs
I shouldn't have bought my 57 I should've bought a pro display xdr and a Mac studio and wrecked my bnak account
But it would be retinal nirvana
outer sand
is there such thing that can combine 2 monitors into 1 hdmi plug?
I want a plug and play to my surface, but don't want to lose the mobility
and having to make sure the HDMI can be plugged into my thunder bolt male-HDMI female cable
so if I want to go, I just unplugged the thunderbolt cable
but when I got home, I just plug the thunderbolt, then all the 2 monitor will be connected, basically that's the idea 😅
lost python
sounds like you need a dockingstation
outer sand
ah is that what it's called? ok ok
lost python
ye
small but expensive box you connect everything to and the box connects to your laptop/surface/device
outer sand
ye
how powerful is thunderbolt really? can it really withstand that much input?
i don't understand this, lol
lost python
it eats 100w from your wall and can charge your laptop with up to 85W power
and yeah that much is no issue for USB-C or thunderbolt
not sure how much i trust some random third party brands though
outer sand
ah right, just need to look up my parents slot, and match it with them
so they can use it while I'm away
ty ty
outer sand
not sure how much i trust some random third party brands though
alright
modern iris
umbral moss
Ai event
The verge posted an info graphic the other day showing that Ai mentions in corporate earnings skyrocketed in 2022
I bet if you look at nvda prices they go 1:1
No astroturfing at all 👍
potent arrow
@deep sapphire
modern iris
> Ai event
It's not necessarily about the AI, more the processing/transfer rate of the hardware developed with it in mind. It's an interesting watch regardless of how you feel about AI unless you don't really find the hardware itself that interesting
umbral moss
My point is more that the harder they hype the next alternative use for gpus to fluff share prices, the more inflated and less available high end gaming hardware becomes
$1200 used to buy you the top of the top of the line, the best card
Now it's table stakes for mid range hardware because all the high end hardware is being positioned to sell to enterprise and academic customers who have infinite money
Crypto became ml became Ai about to become the next useless widget
modern iris
Ah, yea, world we live in and all that. I don't think we're advancing tech specifically to inflate gpu prices for gamers, however
But it's too bad there's no going back to normal hardware prices at this point, ship sailed roughly 8-10 years ago. Not looking forward to a new build
umbral moss
Ah, yea, world we live in and all that. I don't think we're advancing tech speci...
I mean, it is exactly that though lmao
GPU prices went parabolic alongside crypto and after the crypto bust of 2021 Nvidia found a new marketing strategy for all their excess inventory
Just fill your datacenters with gpus and use fifty megawatts to power a shitty auto complete algorithm that guesses wrong 95% of the time
modern iris
I don't really know what else to tell you if you think Blackwell as a whole is just centered around gaming, it's amazing technology and I thought it was neat. To each their own
cerulean talon
Just fill your datacenters with gpus and use fifty megawatts to power a shitty a...
10/10, keep chewing down those megawatts plz
velvet flint
So I was told that ffxiv is “graphics intense” and
How does it fare on a “gaming” laptop?
cerulean talon
At the moment, I would not consider XIV to be particularly intense, but 7.0 is here soon(tm), so that'll be a chance to see what kind of load they're gonna put on our rigs.
Assuming it's a gaming laptop from the last couple years, it's probally going to be fine, square still builds XIV for consoles, so there's a soft-cap on how "intense" it'll end up.
wise hatch
How does it fare on a “gaming” laptop?
I use a 1650TI and i5 9th gen (Acer Aspire 7) and I get around 80fps normally
but theres a graphics overhaul coming out so we'll see what happens
think there was a faq for the specs but I forgot what it was
solid dirge
I know what absolutely none of this means
But maybe some of you tech jockies will know
In unrelated but previous news:
I don't think AI is going to be completely useless. Definitely not like crypto was. However, it's definitely still in its infancy at the absolute BEST.
People are definitely trying to abuse it in ways that just flat out aren't gonna work, and being called out on it. But part of me thinks that's because it's literally just too damn early for it. That's also a double-edged sword; there's no protections with it at the moment.
Well, there's some.. I think ChatGPT kinda just doesn't talk about certain stuff. Like nuclear fun devices. Because of the obvious horrible outcomes.
But that.. Definitely needs expansion which will PROBABLY come along as AI improves. It'll be a support tool, and a damn powerful one, and I think people will inevitably use it as a main tool, but I think as counteranalysis stuff starts popping up against it, it'll be easier to avoid.
cerulean talon
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-50-gb202-gaming-gpu-reportedly-features-t...
A process node is the "size" of a given transistor, so this means the next gen gaming GPU's are on the same "size" as the next gen AI cards, which anyone with half a brain would expect. It'll be interesting to see if they really shove out something that's got a dramatically different architecture.
Or are we just gonna see a node step without a major architecture change, which is fully possible.
umbral moss
Usually Nvidia doesn't do new node and new uarch at the same time because they got fucked by the gtx480 doing that
If there's a problem with the node they can adjust using a proven platform instead of having two entangled problems
deep sapphire
ITS ALL OGRE
random marlin
it seems to happen once when i turn on my laptop every day, but after that never again (for the rest of the day)
random marlin
deep sapphire
jesus can anyone buy anything these days that actually works
everything feels like you bought it off temu
random marlin
lmao
potent arrow
ya that sounds about right
severe flax
My friend in 3rd world country found this and I am telling him to just buy it
He plays on 1080p too
severe flax
AMD
Nvidia cards over there are expensive as heck
He has a 5600G as processor
Currently he is playing on integrated graphics so like
deep sapphire
tell him a commodore 64 is only 18 bucks at the goodwill
severe flax
Anything is an upgrade at this point
deep sapphire
true
for league of legends right
so I decided to undervolt my processor and lock the turbo boost to 140 watts and its made a dramatic difference
its like maybe 5 percent slower but holy shit it doesnt get to 70c randomly on the desktop and make my CPU fans be annoying
potent arrow
undervolting is the new over clocking now that everything is just over reasonably fast
deep sapphire
oh also I found out that mobo makers default some stupid shit that overvolts the fuck out of your processor
so I turned that off, that also helped
yeah its really obnoxious that your CPU can pull almost 300w from the wall at any random ass time it doesnt think very well
you just be watching a youtube video and it'd spike out of no where and then my CPU fan would go ape shit and then go back down
extremely annoying
potent arrow
pfft
deep sapphire
I dont have a trash can emote damn
potent arrow
damnit I thought I had an AMD emote
deep sapphire
potent arrow
there's your trash can
dire viper
gimme a 5800X3D 😔
deep sapphire
there's your trash can
ayy
dire viper
Destiny 2 Into the Light dev livestream going on right now
HOLY SHIT IT IS
@random marlin the Into the Light content is going to be a wave based defense game mode that increases in difficulty wave after wave
its just Firefight
bruh this shit is zombies plus firefight
you collect scraps and can build defenses and shit
what the fuck
@kind rune
also yea Midnight Coup is back
rebakes of iconic weapons it seems, new Hung Jury
omg
wrong fucking chat
im sorry moderators 
im sorry those who would judge me 
south kelp
im sorry those who would judge me <:pepesob:760755601680367626>
it's me you reminded me this channel existed
dire viper
it's me you reminded me this channel existed
😭
deep sapphire
What did you say
hard drift
What did you say
you heard me
deep sapphire
you heard me
Nope
i am leaving to go burn my wallet
dire viper
didnt AMD have the funny defect where the CPU's would delid from how hot they got
deep sapphire
You own a 4090
hard drift
You own a 4090
i said cpu game not gpu game
dire viper
what do you even need a 4090 for
4080 can run a lot of games at 4k 144 without upscaling
potent arrow
hai bido
hard drift
hi
hard drift
4080 can run a lot of games at 4k 144 without upscaling <:Kek:938600030472896552...
because i don't want to upgrade anytime soon 😐
hard drift
not to mention 4k 240hz is where it's at 😎
dire viper
yea most games literally cannot be stretched that wide tho
kind rune
the games that these people play can
dire viper
like they either break or the game itself wont let it happen
kind rune
dire viper
I think kyanche was saying but basically a lot of applications will just take up a segment of their ultrawide
kind rune
youngest man is using a midnight coup
this livestream reminds me so much of back in the day when bungie would reveal stuff
deep sapphire
4080 can run a lot of games at 4k 144 without upscaling <:Kek:938600030472896552...
I can tell you right now no it certainly can not cause a 4090 doesnt always run 4K 120 maxed out
but most people arent playing games at 4K 120 anyway
dire viper
it can run Cyberpunk if thats any indication
my friend runs a 4080 and a 5800X3D and his cyberpunk runs at 144 4k at mostly ultra
idk what he doin with his setup tho, I know his 4080 is water cooled
solid panther
4k is already an insane drain on resources
To also hit 144hz is insane and completely untenable
dire viper
real
4k is kinda whatever 😔
I run most games at 2k 144 with a 3070 and a 5600X
not at ultra tho obviously
mostly medium high
sly elk
that are 57 inches
so about that. The 4090 uses older versions of displayport and HDMI and can only drive that monitor at 120hz.
you need a 7900xtx to drive it at 240hz
or, probably any 50 series card, whenever those come out
hurray for 7680x2160 lol
sly elk
I think kyanche was saying but basically a lot of applications will just take up...
i mean, for racing games it's fantastic. And those should support any aspect ratio right? XD
cerulean talon
Stupid dp 1.4a. grumble
sly elk
for something like overwatch it's kinda? eh? it's a pro/con kinda thing
the extra field of view would be great, if there was a way to make the UI narrower
cerulean talon
I did finally find a dp KVM that supports EDID though, so I'm a very happy developer once more.
sly elk
like even playing fps games on a 21:9 can be annoying because of that
because the stats are way off to the sides >>
cerulean talon
You should see my roomie's setup, he's cursed.
cerulean talon
Banded 3 4k's into a single display.
sly elk
you hit the button and it disconnects computer 1 and attaches computer 2 😄
cerulean talon
So it's ~12000x2000
dire viper
i mean, for racing games it's fantastic. And those should support any aspect rat...
yea racing games and minecraft are the only games where it has 0 issues
cerulean talon
I can't deal with my machines rearranging my windows all the time, so I sucked it up and finally found a DP KVM that supported EDID.
dire viper
cause for whatever reason minecraft supports EVERYTHING
cerulean talon
It's got a little jank still, probally need to do a firmware update.
sly elk
yea racing games and minecraft are the only games where it has 0 issues
racing games is pretty much all I care to run full screen anyway
i run stuff like ffxiv in a window
and i usually scatter windows all over my screen
if you're the kinda person that maximizes everything and uses your computer as a giant ipad, anything beyond a 27" 1440p monitor would probably be awful
dire viper
ye 1440 is the sweet spot
my monitor is 27"
honestly I feel anything over that is a bit much
but im an fps gaming frog so its the right size to have close to my face
sly elk
i'd say a 144hz 5k monitor would be nicer XD
kind rune
so *about that*. The 4090 uses older versions of displayport and HDMI and can on...
That doesn't quite change my statement 
sly elk
i guess the way i see it, the 4090 isn't going to "be enough", so my 3080ti isn't either, but it does what I want well enough (120hz, around 60-ish fps in trackmania i think haha)
i wish that monitor was more of a slam dunk haha
on the plus side, it's 57" with a resolution to back up the 57" size
it is massive and I love the size and the visual impact of having it on my desk lmao
but practicality-wise it's a little bit gimped
i think i might buy an hdmi switch and use it split-screen normally and only go full-screen for gaming
because my work laptop can't drive 7680x2160 on one port
but it can if I treat it as two monitors
OH NO
(sorry I thought I made a $32 mistake but I opened the wrong box)
(also turns out I have a usb-c displayport adapter I thought i didn't?! WTF?)
did i forget to return this one ;_;
i did ;_;
umbral moss
Honestly, hdr, color range, and refresh rate are more important than ppi for most things
I think the only time super high res would be useful is for like, maybe photo editing and you still need the color range anyway 
sly elk
it makes text nicer to look at
potent arrow
@dire viper @deep sapphire
potent arrow
LOL
potent arrow
LOL
wraith agate
what a jet plume
potent arrow
wait I have this too Christian
wraith agate
it shouldn't have a jet plume
dire viper
what a jet plume
the motor is running super rich and probably very hot from constant use so its just shootin flames
dire viper
lmao ive seen this before
potent arrow
so good lmfao
potent arrow
Jesus christ
potent arrow
my portrait monitor is just for code and discord lol
kind rune
cant even watch a youtube video on this thing 
dire viper
@potent arrow factory paint option btw
Nissan with the most outrageous color shift paints
going through the car video folder on my phone
dire viper
oh real
i forgor
its red/purple/gold
70 year old man doing the Colorado rally series in a 997
said old man also is in charge of all of Porsches advertising
wise jay
I think this is prettier if I could see colors
its pretty poggers
potent arrow
70 year old man doing the Colorado rally series in a 997
me in the passenger seat clenchy my hands and my partner laughing maniacally
dire viper
yes
its insane to me Jeff Zwart does all this
he also races Pikes Peak
factory car from Porsche
started at 1 million
wraith agate
Looks pretty swell... I'm gonna add it to the list of cars I can't afford
dire viper
was supposed to look like the original 935's that came out in the 70's
wise jay
I love looking at things I cant afford
potent arrow
its the same deal as Midnight Purple
so I'm painting a civic model rn
and I'm gonna do that
wise jay
nice vape fluid
wraith agate
Turbo dork
dire viper
its very expensive to paint a car like that so if someone rolls up in one you know they mean business
I think they did a good job emulating the looks
wraith agate
What makes midnight purple so expensive?
dire viper
its color shift paint
potent arrow
it has like
dire viper
it changes color depending on perspective
wraith agate
Huh
potent arrow
the paint I'm using is glass particles
dire viper
The flakes are constructed of aluminium coated with glass-like magnesium fluoride embedded in semi-translucent chromium. The aluminium and chrome give the paint a vibrant metallic sparkle, while the glass-like coating acts like a refracting prism, changing the apparent color of the surface as the observer moves
wraith agate
`The flakes are constructed of aluminium coated with glass-like magnesium fluori...
Imagine the cops calling it in
dire viper
ChromaFlair is the most common brand of color shift
wraith agate
"We got a purp- blue? Uhh car..."
dire viper
its basically what every company uses in their paint
not midnight purple but, this is a TVR Tuscan painted using ChomaFlair in the paint
wraith agate
Interesting
dire viper
Porsche may be the largest buyer of ChromaFlair right now lmao
they do paint to sample so if money isnt a concern for you you can have your car painted to whatever you want
its so common people pay for custom paint that they actually added two whole new paint booths on their assembly lines just for paint to sample
Python Green ChromaFlair, it is reportedly a 78,000 USD paint job
wraith agate
I can't afford the paint job either
dire viper
idk how many Python Green ChromaFlair cars there are
its pretty out there in terms of its price
I have never seen one and ive seen a lot of Porsches
like a lot a lot
ive personally been in 918 Spyders (3 million dollar Porsche hybrid super car) and Ferrari Enzo's and ive never seen a Python Green ChromaFlair 911
umbral moss
$78,000 is pocket change, ez 👏
wraith agate
$78,000 is pocket change, ez 👏
Then send me some
dire viper
for color shift paint you gotta get wild
wraith agate
I can make do with half of that
dire viper
there is a guy named Will Lee iirc who runs the instagram account PTSRS and catalogues all the unique one off colors people option their cars in
solid panther
In extremely amusing news, I just found out the CEO of Nvidia and the CEO of AMD are first cousins. That's gotta be a fun Christmas dinner
dire viper
Ipanema Blue Metallic
umbral moss
Then send me some
wraith agate
dire viper
I do like that most Porsche buyers at least do try to be unique LOL
since Porsche expanded their paint to sample program there are all sorts of outlandish colors now
Matching Sepia Brown 911 Targa's, ones a 70's model and ones a modern 992 generation Targa
@potent arrow boutta build a harness for my radio on my computer desk
dire viper
its only a small amount of custom stuff
also its just so the radio can ACTUALLY talk to the old ass shitty BMW hardware
cause i like having steering wheel buttons work
dire viper
nuh
I bought an alpine single din
its literally just the modern aftermarket verison of whats stock
cause BMW used alpine back in the day for their stuff
I believe they still do on some models
I would like a double din but the one I want thats touch screen is like 500 bucks and also it would require me buying used brackets off of a factory nav system E46
there are no local E46's with the nav system in scrap yards for me to reposition my AC controls with the parts I would pull out of one
oh hell yea
the dip switch I had to buy is already set up for Alpine stuff cause its a factory config that alpine still uses today
dire viper
@potent arrow ok so the fuckin power and ground wires on the radio I bought are way thicker than whats on the OEM harness, I know ground doesnt matter much but if im gonna join the actual power wires, I possibly am running a risk with the size diff right?
basically double the actual individual wires in the cable
and I have no clue why
mmm checking with with the guy who recommended the radio he says its fine 💀
potent arrow
uhhhhh
potent arrow
<@829359022288797726> ok so the fuckin power and ground wires on the radio I bou...
well how thin are we talking
and what voltage
dire viper
no clue on voltage
potent arrow
like either 12 or 24
I mean...the radio probally doesn't pull that much current lol
so you should be fine if it's not like paper thin
dire viper
yea
potent arrow
oh wait it's thicker then OEM?
dire viper
larger gauge
potent arrow
then that's fine
dire viper
ok fair enough
potent arrow
uhhhh WORDING
dire viper
I was kinda on the fence cause I couldnt remember
dire viper
lmao
potent arrow
either way it's probably fine lol
dire viper
what an ass backwards way of doing it
potent arrow
if it's thicker then OEM then it's actually better
if not, if it's not paper thin it'll be fine
dire viper
👍
potent arrow
because at most I expect it to pull like 12v and a few ma
dire viper
yea it should just be 12V
potent arrow
current is the problem really
dire viper
ya Alpine isnt really any help
no clue what CTA-2006 is
otherwise im not running anything extra
no subs
potent arrow
50W x4? tf
w is a * v
12v 3A?
that sounds like a alot
if it's 18w
that's uhhh
12v 1.5A
that sounds much more standard
send me a picture of the wire lol
oh yeah ya that's clicking now lmao
cerulean talon
Most head units serve as a light-weight amp.
cerulean talon
So it's not unreasonable for it to be shoving out 4 channels of 50w.
cerulean talon
I'm cooking. 😛
dire viper
Left is alpine, right is OEM
potent arrow
no yeah your fine lmfao
cerulean talon
Yeah, that'll be fine.
dire viper
yer
cerulean talon
Not really, it's good for people who want some BOOM but don't want to get a real amp and low-pass.
Also HAIIIII.
dire viper
it has up to 3 amp outs lol
cerulean talon
It's grilling night. I am making many burgers.
cerulean talon
Done, you can help me dispose of this bulk glacial acetic I got around.
Which managed to get cold enough to turn solid >.>
potent arrow
I "Fixed" the printer and now I'm designing brackets to hold up a 1U switch in the back of my buddies van
potent arrow
Which managed to get cold enough to turn solid >.>
lmfao what
gimme the vinegar
lets make some big baking soda volcanos
cerulean talon
lmfao what
It's not that hard when it's glacial.
I've been cutting it down to 10% and shoving it into the hot water pipes
potent arrow
a lot of calcium?
cerulean talon
Hard water in general out here.
cerulean talon
Probally, ours is like 250-300 PPM of "hardness" so decently conductive. 😄
potent arrow
yooooo
I'm gonna die of microplastis sitting around this printer
@dire viper cybertruck panel gap...
dire viper
huge
cold yacht
yuge
sly elk
<@133298657821720576> cybertruck panel gap...
Is the door not open?
The top edge of the window sill appears to be the same gap
And that’s what you get I think when you push the open door button
sly elk
Wtf lol
I’ve actually seen one parked down the block from me a few times
It didn’t have anything that noticeable hahahaha
sly elk
yea i'm ngl
I like it enough that if I needed a truck and it was available for a reasonable like 50k price? i'd probably consider it
shit i'd be in trouble
i don't like trucks xD
i mean, if you drive a truck, good for you! I'll happily ride in it and stuff. as long as you don't take up 2 parking spaces at work >> but
enjoying mkbhd's take on the magic mouse hehe