#technology-discussion

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potent arrow
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the ff14 new rec specs are still old as shit

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so any new system is gonna run it well

wild wyvern
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i think r5 5600x is fine with an rx 580

potent arrow
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if you are looking for a cheap CPU upgrade from something really old, idk what you hade before. Go for like an i3 12100f for 90$ slap the kinda new old GPU in it have fun

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that's basically what I've been doing for people

wild wyvern
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Its an i5 4440

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Uh not that i3

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yikes lmaoo

compact pine
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hey listen

potent arrow
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yeah

compact pine
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its a monster compared to what you have

potent arrow
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i3 12100f will be miles better

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and that i3 is actually a good CPU lmfao

wild wyvern
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I hate the current intel cause of the temps

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And i multitask

potent arrow
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this thing barely sips power

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but hey I was just talking budget lol

compact pine
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and a cooler under 100 can still be capable

wild wyvern
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isnt the i3 like 1 core?

real edge
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wat

compact pine
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4/8

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4 core

wild wyvern
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Cause my father had an aio with an 1 core intel i3 11th gen

compact pine
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aint no way

wild wyvern
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yes

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it is really an 1 core

potent arrow
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what

real edge
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there is no 1 core cpu in 2023/2024

potent arrow
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thats

compact pine
wild wyvern
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whaat hiw?

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But i do multitask and i do run heavy games sometimes

potent arrow
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aguh LTT I'm out haha

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heres it combined with a rx570

wild wyvern
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@compact pine which cpu is better for multitasker like me

compact pine
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welllets use that video above to compare

potent arrow
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if you are gonna do heavy multitasking, budget is not something that can rely on that

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lmfao

compact pine
wild wyvern
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I never knew that i3 could compare now tbh

compact pine
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that to

potent arrow
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theni3 will run like a browser, discord and Spotify and game

potent arrow
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jsyk

dire viper
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its mostly bs

kind rune
dire viper
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they specifically hate AMD

potent arrow
compact pine
dire viper
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and historically have gone on some of the most unhinged rants about AMD

potent arrow
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I would be like

kind rune
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its true userbenchmark sucks

potent arrow
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idk if you want to run more browsers and applications I would get a more powerful CPU and more ram

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but budget is budget

kind rune
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i kinda wanna try the userbenchmark speed test

compact pine
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peepoLeave i have no good sources clearly

potent arrow
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just research and watch videos for tech info

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I benchmark all the stuff I sell for a reason

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the new GN site is pretty good now too

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it's fine tbh, just start being pickier with your sources

wild wyvern
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How muxh is an 16gb x2 cost?

real edge
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3600mhz cl16 32gb ddr4 is like

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80-90$

wild wyvern
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ehhhh

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looks reasonable

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im going either r5 or i5

compact pine
potent arrow
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so I've had a history and half with it, so I just ignore his existence

wild wyvern
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@compact pine its either i5 or r5

compact pine
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i5 wot

wild wyvern
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12th gen

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I have to go eepy

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Its one of those choices

wild wyvern
compact pine
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bruh

wild wyvern
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hahaha

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Yeah

compact pine
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get sleep and research those two cpus and make a decision off tha

wild wyvern
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Yeh sure

compact pine
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this is ethernet ?

sharp star
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I feel like there should be a faq for UserBenchmark but that's just me

potent arrow
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it doesnt come up much tbh

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most people know its bad juju

compact pine
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i didnt pepehands me just a trades guy no techy guy

odd sand
modern iris
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Wait, do single cores even exist anymore?

odd sand
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I think it's been a hot minute, but a few years ago I want to say I remember seeing either Intel Atom or Celeron-branded CPUs with 1 core

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They're essentially meant for embedded

compact pine
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leave yourslel some slack jusssst in case extra 10 ft or so

odd sand
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But yeah for the most part literally everything they've sold from Cores to Pentium and Celeron has been at least 2 core for several years now

modern iris
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So like ATMs and shit?

odd sand
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@wild wyvern 12400f is 6 core for $150 USD. If you're trying to do a worthwhile upgrade for as cheap as possible it's hard to beat the system with the 12100f bc later on you could upgrade it to like a 14700k or something. By comparison, if you got the AMD on AM4 socket, the Ryzen5 4500 for a similar price to the 12100f performs a lot worse, but theoretically upgrading to the 5800X3D later would be better price/perf than the intel 13th or 14th gen.

sly elk
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gg

odd sand
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I assume you had to run that thru conduit? heh

umbral moss
cerulean talon
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Forbidden spaghetti

elfin dirge
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Any idea how to use opencv2 houghcircle to track a circle?

Been fiddling with mindist and params and it ends up drawing a circle on my image where I dont want it.

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I know CNN can also do it better but my company isnt that too happy about using tf thanks to the memory it requires

wild wyvern
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i dont want do drop so low xD

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i just want to prepare for the graphical update for DT tbh

neon shell
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lol my pc that I built is essentially specific specs for DT

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With some specs like storage and cpu that are a bit more then what is required

golden stream
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DT should be fine w my system, just need a wee bit of storage just in case be vchuba or something lol

wild wyvern
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yea

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but im almost everytime an multitasker so

golden stream
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The issue of w11 so far isn't hardware relate but the OS itself
40GB memory, still lag tf outta the OS
Which idk, a bit concern when DT drops tho

wild wyvern
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lol

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im not going to switch to win 11

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just yet

golden stream
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I have another option, steam deck capture then stream

wild wyvern
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I heard bad stuffs about it

golden stream
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I have 1tb each, linux and w11 haha

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Nah steam deck is fine, just the stream prob a bit jank

wild wyvern
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Why u say u have 40gb ram but still it lags win 11?

golden stream
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It lags tf outta my lappy, only discord + dozen tabs of firefox, so how it would be while streaming

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Same tasks, same load, fedora no lag at all

wild wyvern
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huuuh

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lmao

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Shit OS

golden stream
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It's weird ya, I want to dwell deeper

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But when 99% softwares running it and not guaranteer it'll work on linux, ya it stings playdead

wild wyvern
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if im an multitasker

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which ryzen is better?

golden stream
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Depend on ur task and ur budget

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Like tasks love memory like XIV will have benefit from extra caches

wild wyvern
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i just sometimes play an game and hsve another app running and discord etc

golden stream
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Rendering prefers raw power tho

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Ya depend on the game itself

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Kid u not, PSO2 og in max makes my GPU works more than MHW max

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Similar CPU load as well

wild wyvern
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Ah

golden stream
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Tho electron-base (discord ya) can hoard some good chunk of memory

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If ya in budget kinda and not want to upgrade like 10 years-ish, can go to the beefiest DDR4 setup

wild wyvern
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which is?

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lul

golden stream
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5xxx3D, something along the line

earnest sedge
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ugh just got a bsod

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video scheduler internal error

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I guess why tho

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Cause windows updated even though I said not to update and I guess thats conflicting with my nvidia driver now 🙄

wild wyvern
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Wait what

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i didnt know intel 13th gen had an 10 core cpu

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Gheeee

compact pine
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yuppp mines a 16/24 13 gen stepped it up

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hence why im usualy playing two games at once with multiple tabes HeheYeah

wild wyvern
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which ryzen 7 is better for multitasking

wild wyvern
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im quite an multitasker

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so idk tbh to go with an i5 or an ryzen 7

compact pine
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depends on your budjet still

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even the latest/ or recent cpus even low cor count cant still multitask witha few tabs and a game

wild wyvern
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ah but im opening an game or 2 with 1 or 2 tabs

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lol

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Im thinkibg of the non 3d ones

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like r5 5500 or ryzen 7 5700

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@compact pine

compact pine
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the 7 is not much better then the 5 in this case

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the 7 would maybe be slighty better with more tasks

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you have to remeber what you currently have to what your looking at is a huge step up

real edge
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dont use userbenchmark

honest panther
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Does anyone know a good gaming VR headset cheaper than the valve index

sly walrus
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eh

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with vr you kinda get what you pay for

real edge
sly walrus
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how close are we to just filtering that url

wild wyvern
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oh ooof

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but i kinda need one thst can last longer

real edge
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if you want a long lasting CPU get a 7800X3D or 5800X3D

wild wyvern
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heck

compact pine
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the that 12 gen intel someone suggested is fine for now and you get a board that supports 12-13 gen to be able to upgrade in the future

wild wyvern
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but budget

real edge
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or 5700X3D

compact pine
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as a option

wild wyvern
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oh

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that i5 12th gen?

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i mostly wanted to go ryzen cause i heard god stuff about it

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good

sly walrus
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ryzen mostly gets you made fun of by the tech mentors, from what i've seen

wild wyvern
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whaaat?

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but uh

real edge
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AMD CPUs are fine

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its their GPU drivers that get made fun of

wild wyvern
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oh yeah gpu huh

sly walrus
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all they say is amd

wild wyvern
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i kinda see the point lol

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i heard wacky shit about the gpu

compact pine
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ive had both brands, both have been fine

wild wyvern
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But not all

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sometimes

real edge
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AMD CPUs are fine

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and their GPUs are good on a budget

wild wyvern
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I really hate nvidia gpu being too expensive

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yeh thats why i want to go for an all amd build

real edge
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see 5700X3D local pricing in your area

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maybe its low enough to consider

wild wyvern
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1k+

real edge
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1k what

wild wyvern
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Myr

compact pine
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half their budget

wild wyvern
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or idk

honest panther
wild wyvern
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Yeah

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I have no way of knowibg the actual prixe until i go to the store itself

real edge
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arent there sites like lazada and shoppee over there

real edge
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I remember using those two for SEA folk

wild wyvern
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Its like 800 to 1k

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Idk tbh

deep sapphire
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day 282 of not having my house burnt down from my 4090

wild wyvern
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@real edge

real edge
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the 4090 will have great resale value

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even when the 5090 arrives

deep sapphire
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I bought the micro center exchange/warranty program so im gonna return it when the 5090 comes out

real edge
wild wyvern
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dont think so

potent arrow
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Hank the kinda guy to loosing the PSU cable on the GPU to feel something

deep sapphire
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"come on arch damnit daddy needs a new GPU"

real edge
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ohh 5700X

wild wyvern
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Cause it has 5700 5700x and 5700X3D

real edge
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5700X is a good CPU

deep sapphire
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I'd snatch up the X3D

real edge
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5700X3D for 1000MYR seems like a good deal

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just came out so there should be stock

deep sapphire
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the X3D is just a no brainer for gaming performance its substantial

wild wyvern
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How about the r5 5600x

wild wyvern
wild wyvern
deep sapphire
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any modern processor can multitask its more of do you do things like rendering

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I think you kinda have to weigh which one you do more

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which im sure for most of us is gaming

wild wyvern
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yeh

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but

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I run an metaverse app too lmao

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so like

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gheez

odd sand
wild wyvern
odd sand
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@deep sapphire Gonna be at the Pens vs Wild game tonight. Going to try to get into town between 4-5pm instead of squeezing in last minute like the last 2 years heh

deep sapphire
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that was a good place to pre game

potent arrow
wild wyvern
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uhm

modest moss
wild wyvern
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i wonder if the 5700x is also an good choice?

odd sand
odd sand
potent arrow
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yeah

odd sand
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If they can get the 5600X3D or 5700X3D it's well worth it

potent arrow
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but it's the price point that is amazing lol

odd sand
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Yeah I put a 12100F in my parents PC rebuild and I have a 1660 super that's been sitting in the closet for awhile I'm gonna put in next time I visit. That way I can do some gaming on it if I want

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Although they have a 4:3 AR LCD monitor from like 2004 with god-awful color balance heh

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I can't in good conscience spend their money on a new monitor when for their purposes that one is perfectly fine

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Since all they do is respond to emails, make a skype call every once in a blue moon and do zoom calls for church services when they don't feel up to driving over there

potent arrow
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just wait for a FBM 20$ 24" monitor special tbh

odd sand
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The other issue is they have a 30yo computer desk that the alcove for the monitor is designed for 4:3, so I don't know if it's even wide enough to fit a 24"

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
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if you show up like 2 hours early you can get 4 dollar beers

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and they had a good tap selection

odd sand
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Wouldn't it be hahahaha! then the nvidia catches fire from the 12V power connector? heh

odd sand
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I'm not a beer snob but ngl when I had Coors Light for the first time at the 49ers stadium it literally tasted like water

potent arrow
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are people still protesting budlight

odd sand
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No idea, I'm making normal budlight memes of it being really mid beer

potent arrow
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mid is a strong word

odd sand
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But hey, at least it's better than The Beast and Natty Light

potent arrow
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I dare say I'll drink PBR over it lol

odd sand
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I think mid is a perfect descriptor: It's not the worst beer, it's simply offensively inoffensive lol

deep sapphire
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DRINK 211

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STEEL RESERVE NATION

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jk

cold yacht
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I drink Mexican beer most of the time

deep sapphire
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eugh

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awful stuff

potent arrow
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What the fuck is natty light

odd sand
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It's another one of those 2nd dregs light beers like Milwaukee's Best and Keystone Light etc.

potent arrow
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ugh

odd sand
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They make a batch of Miller Lite then the mash is re-used for a run of Milwaukee's Best

deep sapphire
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its just malt liquor

potent arrow
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Ah

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high life is usually what I reach for

deep sapphire
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cheap shitty beer that gets you fucked up

potent arrow
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or a Sapporo lol

deep sapphire
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dont kill me shin but I hate all milwaukee beers lol

odd sand
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Mainstay of house parties at UW Milwaukee with $5 for your red solo cup for the quarter barrel /s

deep sapphire
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I'd much rather have something from anheiserbusch

cold yacht
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michelob ultra  pretty nice

deep sapphire
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michelob ultra is like

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the science beer

potent arrow
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is that just busch

deep sapphire
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its so damn smooth like am I drinking water

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wtf

cold yacht
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But yeah 90% I’m drinking cervezas

odd sand
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ngl I've honestly not had much of miller beers simply bc when I first started drinking and was of age, I had this weird gag reflex to any beer after a few sips

potent arrow
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cuz if you are shitting on Busch you pissed off the entirety of rural Ontario lol

cold yacht
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I’ll take them on

odd sand
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So I drank mixed drinks and that's when I came upon my "Dr Kraken" that I still like

deep sapphire
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miller beers are just like

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too hoppy

cold yacht
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Unless it’s letter Kenny

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I like letter Kenny

deep sapphire
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minnesota beers like grain belt are kinda the same

potent arrow
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letter Kenny is rural sudbury

deep sapphire
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I like anheisher for the more grain/rice taste

odd sand
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Yeah I don't drink IPAs usually. Although sometimes if it's some craft IPA that's really fruity I don't mind as much bc that masks the hoppiness

cold yacht
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Pacifico is nice

potent arrow
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I really really love dark IPAs or unfiltered shit

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I think I'm alone on that one

odd sand
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Had this blueberry one like 2 months ago and they put a bunch of blueberries in with it and the glasses had the scored circle in the bottom of the glasses so it had that interesting bubble pattern and the blueberries would keep floating to the top then go to the sides and sink again. Was really neat

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Dunno if you've ever seen beer glasses like that before?

cold yacht
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Can’t get into ipa

odd sand
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I hate bitter stuff, so I stick to hefeweizen or like sours a lot of the time if I'm going to drink beer at all

deep sapphire
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I use to be a beer snob when I was 22

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not anymore

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give me a cold cheap beer idgaf

cold yacht
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3 pack of a tall can of Pacifico is good enough for me for a weekend

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$8

odd sand
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I have a small stomach so I generally don't bother with cheap lite beer bc I literally can't feel anything off it then. At which point I'm paying extra for water and consuming a ton of cals for no benefit heh

wraith agate
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Drink strong alcohol then

modern iris
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You know, I’ve never had beer before. Would a Zero/NA be safe to experience the taste without the booze?

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Never had any alcohol actually.

wild wyvern
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i think im gonna go for the r7 5700x

sly walrus
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i can recommend lagunitas hop water

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it doesn't really match the taste of beer, but it's good

modern iris
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I wish Shiner made NA stuff- their Ruby Redbird sounds good.

deep sapphire
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Just don’t go overboard

wild wyvern
compact pine
wild wyvern
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More room to get better cooler mobo monitor ram and storage

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but gpu tho...

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is an rx 5000 series ok?

sly walrus
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my dad and my uncle took me to a bunch of bars around portland, and we ordered a flight at each one

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by the second one, i was fucking sloshed

real edge
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6600XT/6650XT

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for budget

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gaming

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or 6700XT if you stretch budget

modest moss
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is a 6600/6650 enough of an upgrade on that rx580 to bother?

wild wyvern
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huh

modest moss
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you have rx580 right? or am I thinking of someone else

wild wyvern
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Huuuh lol

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6650 is 8gb vram?

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Yeah i do shue

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Its def an upgrade

real edge
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according to techpowerup relative performance chart

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the 6650xt is like two times better than the 580

wild wyvern
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6660XT?

real edge
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6600xt is 8% slower than the 6650xt

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on average

wild wyvern
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Huh

real edge
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defo a decent option

wild wyvern
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An 6660xt cost rm750

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But

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i do think its not really true

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More like 800 to 1k range

real edge
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that seems about right

odd sand
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Stubhub wrrrryyy....

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Log in just fine on their website
Try to login on the app
fuck you, low on cyan

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error signing in with password

wild wyvern
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Oh crap

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Actually no its 2k myr

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Bruuh

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also the r7 5700x is around 1k something

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idk tbh

odd sand
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Log in on the browser on the phone just fine kek

wild wyvern
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ALL IT Hypermarket

Technical Specs :- • Model : 11310-01-20G • Graphic Engine : AMD Radeon™ RX 6600 Graphics Card (AMD RDNA™ 2 Architecture) • Bus Standard : PCI Express 4.0 x16 • Engine Clock Boost Clock: Up to 2491 MHz Game Clock: Up to 2044 MHz • Video Memory : 8GB GDDR6 • Stream Processors : 1792 • Infinity Cache : 32MB • Ray Tracing

ALL IT Hypermarket

==== AMD Ryzen™ 7 5700X ==== Product Line : AMD Ryzen™ 7 Desktop Processors (7000 Series)CPU Cores / Threads : 8-Cores / 16-ThreadsMax. Boost Clock : Up to 4.6GHzBase Clock : 3.4GHzL1 Cache : 512KBL2 Cache : 4MBL3 Cache : 32MBSystem Memory : DDR4 (Up to 3200Mhz)Unlocked for Overclocking : YESCPU Socket : AM4Integrated

real edge
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get the XT version

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preferably

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its much faster

wild wyvern
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I dont see XT in that website

real edge
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if you do not get the XT

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see how much the 7600 costs

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how much myr

real edge
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7600

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check how much it costs

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the GPU

wild wyvern
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oof

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1.3k

real edge
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2800myr for the 6600xt are they stupid

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well that aside

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1300 for the 7600 is eeehhh

wild wyvern
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Yea

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XD

real edge
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like

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7600 for 1300 is something I would consider over a 1k 6600

wild wyvern
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is it better?

real edge
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cause the 7600 has 6650xt performance

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with new RDNA stuff

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so I would consider it

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even tho the price is really not great

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you get

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21% more performance

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for 300 myr bump

wild wyvern
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Thats gonna break my budget already

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how about the perf gain for rx 6660?

real edge
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huh?

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perf gain vs what

wild wyvern
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The percentage

real edge
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yea

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vs what

wild wyvern
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Compared to my rx 580

real edge
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6600 is about

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80% better than an rx 580

wild wyvern
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oh thats big already lol

real edge
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7600 is 105% faster than an rx580

wild wyvern
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oh

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so an 20% diff?

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not that bad for an rx 6600

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i usually will go high or med settings anyways

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Im not like those graphics maniac

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😅

modest moss
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are you sure AMD is cheaper than nvidia in your market? I've seen countries where it's not, like Brazil for example

wild wyvern
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Hmmm

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its not by much tbh

real edge
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if you want a gpu to search

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4060ti 8gb

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3060ti

wild wyvern
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but intel is much expensice

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wait oops

real edge
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if you want to look at nvidia prices as opposed to amd

wild wyvern
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much more expensive

real edge
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....googleadservices?

odd sand
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8gb vram in 20 and 24 of the modern era omegabruh

modest moss
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what's the gpu budget?

wild wyvern
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hmmm like an rx 6660

real edge
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money amount lol

wild wyvern
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1k range

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Brufh

modest moss
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6650xt is probably best at that price from what I see

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something like that

wild wyvern
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ack

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So whats the percentage of 6650xt vs rx 580

modest moss
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apparently a good amount, but idk are you really desperate to upgrade or can you wait and save more

odd sand
real edge
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6650xt for rm 1000 is a decent deal

odd sand
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20something buying a charger and going way into debt, name a more perfect duo

dire viper
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I get it

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shit happens

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I did the same thing but only went into debt about 10k so Yay

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also RIP all the execs that pushed for EV's

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cause they are dropping in sales pretty heavily now wow

cold yacht
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If I was getting a new car and don’t want full ice I’ll just get a hybrid

dire viper
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the incentives of buying a car that depreciates faster than a Bentley Pog

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and the issue of having to replace batteries down the line

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only BMW has a full replacement Warranty for EV's

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even those that arent in production anymore

inland mauve
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@lost python what did you say again yesterday that I could do to make the sound of my mic more consistent?

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i forgor

lost python
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Turn up volume but add a compressor? You mean that?

inland mauve
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yeah

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Discord chatting, streaming and video recording

dire viper
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I need to learn how to use OBS

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gotta get crazy clips for my 360 montage sunglas

inland mauve
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OBS is easy

wide hill
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Thank god for the nvme that i bought for a very long time ago, finally in use

umbral moss
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Who knew that charging $68k plus imaginary dealer fees for a power wheels corolla would end up being a sales dud

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F150 lightnings went from "wow, they really made that reasonable" to "haha get fucked bitch here's a 50k dealer charge"

sly elk
umbral moss
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Gap insurance rules but it's a poorly explained product

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Largely because if it pays out its a huge cost to the company lmao

dire viper
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A Tesla Model 3 is at BMW M2 price point currently

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Which is insane

sly elk
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and the credit union i sometimes use, also pushes gap insurance when you don't use a large down payment

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iirc the insurance itself is not underwritten by the loan company or the car dealer. they want you to buy it

inland mauve
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god when I search for some tech support on the internet and find a Reddit thread and half the responses are people making the OP feel stupid and wanking themselves off because they're above actually answering the question

dire viper
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Yes

sly elk
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O_O so it's like stack overflow lol

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perhaps worse

umbral moss
sly elk
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kya still doesn't get all the EV hate but acknowledges they suck if you 1. live in apartment, 2. live somewhere where it gets really really cold half the year, 3. want an off roader, 4. want something really cheap

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I think an awful lot of it is fueled by the "in 2030 everyone will be forced to buy an awful EV" fear

umbral moss
#

I mean, current evs are awful lmao

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They're rolling prototypes at best

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Like the fucking polestar is basically the only ev at the nexus of cool, performance, and price

#

Where's the lotus or miata style ev? A fucking eg civic equivalent at least?

#

No, all ugly shitboxes or giant tanks full of flammable lithium substrates

sly elk
#

the ugly shitboxes replaced other ugly shitboxes

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where do you live that seeing a lotus is a common occurrence? lol

inland mauve
#

wow Discord really doesn't like virtual audio cables

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for some reason the sound comes out so distorted in the voice test

sharp harbor
#

TLDR, there's no more hidden button
now you're stuck in this hellhole of a UI forever :^)

inland mauve
#

that's uncool but not really related to my issue

umbral moss
#

Light, agile, fast-ish

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Why do evs have to be loaded down with two combustion cars worth of battery weight

dire viper
#

cause they are all made by the most lazy companies

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gotta keep 50/50 weight distribution nodders

umbral moss
#

80k gbp though endure

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Maybe I don't want the carbon fiber chassis, give me the cheap saturn plastic over aluminum lmao

sly elk
sly elk
#

like, i live in a nice sunny town in southern california and see plenty of miatas, sure, but they're still rare af compared to your garden variety rav4, pilot, crv, durango, etc

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ya i was gonna say

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ya know a week or so ago I saw a 1980s civic hatchback

umbral moss
#

You don't need 150 kwh battery packs if you have better reclamation and passive charge scumming systems

sly elk
#

just like that one

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and it was behind a kia soul

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and the kia soul looked like a large suv compared to that damn civic lol

umbral moss
#

The thought you're going to just charge your shit everywhere you go get s fucking stupid

sly elk
#

i was sitting there thinking man we used to fit 4 people in those tiny things

dire viper
#

EV's wont be the future

sly elk
#

I mean

umbral moss
dire viper
#

Toyota thinks that in the next 20 years the max cap on road going EV's will be 30% of vehicles sold

sly elk
#

lol

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maybe we'll get to the point where toyota's hydrogen pipe dream becomes a reality

dire viper
#

unless you consider forcing the entirety of SEA to buy EV's

sly elk
#

but if you think installing EV chargers is hard

dire viper
#

Toyota killed hydrogen

sly elk
#

don't even get me started about installing hydrogen stations

dire viper
#

cause it sucks

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it suffers from entropy

sly elk
#

they killed it?

umbral moss
sly elk
#

I think what will happen is

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at some point in the not-so-distant future

dire viper
sly elk
#

we'll have another anti-woke dude who declares EVs illegal

dire viper
#

Hydrogen is awful

sly elk
#

and does some crazy shit to outlaw them

umbral moss
#

They're too slow and the charge systems are evolving faster than the rollout of last gen chargers playdead

sly elk
#

and they'll kill all the diesel emissions regs

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and volkswagen will start making TDIs again

dire viper
#

not only is the amount of energy it produces in a cell bad, when you combust it, it leeches into metal and causes it to become brittle

sly elk
#

and we'll standardize on diesel

dire viper
#

so its a no-go

sly elk
#

and ford will go hog wild with raptors that produce black smoke

dire viper
#

pure ethanol is literally the best way 😭

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pure ethanol two stroke cylinder hooked up to a hybrid system

sly elk
#

now in an ideal world

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we'd just dump all this stupid shit, require a CDL for anything weighing more than 3500lbs

umbral moss
#

You jest but I believe that I can build a nuclear reactor that fits in a gas tank uwucarby

dire viper
#

unless the US has a revolution again I dont think that would happen

sly elk
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lol

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i do think the 'all ev by 2030' thing is dead in the water

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for one, the marketing that EVs are shitty has been amazingly amazingly effective

dire viper
#

yea whoever decided that was dumb as fuck

sly elk
#

like

dire viper
#

cause its not economical

sly elk
#

I would be afraid to drive an EV outside of california

dire viper
#

EV's literally wear down roads faster too

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so you massively increase the cost of road maintenance

umbral moss
sly elk
#

@dire viper compared to what

dire viper
#

its already high because of trucks and SUV's

dire viper
umbral moss
sly elk
#

a model 3 weighs 4065lbs

dire viper
#

that doesnt weigh in excess over 3800

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yea

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now compare that to a compact

umbral moss
#

You can get by with a fucking 25kwh battery pack

dire viper
#

yea

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EV's dont need over 150 miles of range

umbral moss
#

It's bonkers that people think you need 100+ kwh

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So fucking heavy and the weight doesn't change as you drive

dire viper
#

the average american drives 45 miles a day :)

sly elk
dire viper
#

only because of how ass backwards the need for driving is

dire viper
#

plus most cars on the road are not new!

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and the weight bloat over the last 4 years is insane

umbral moss
#

And 25kwh does, in fact, charge fast enough to be a gas tank fill up

dire viper
#

its mostly not safety stuff

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its cars getting heavier because it improves ride quality (to an extent) and also for more features to be added on

sly elk
#

idk

umbral moss
#

Plug in 25 kwh to your 300kw charger infrastructure uwucarby

dire viper
#

the ND Miata only weighs 100 pounds more than the NA miata

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and it has all the safety stuff

sly elk
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i wanted to make a point but a model y weighs 4500 and a rav4 weighs 3500

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but that's still a drop in the bucket compared to a like 5000lb f150 or whatever

umbral moss
sly elk
#

sp yea ;et

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so yea let's ban EVs

dire viper
#

that doesnt even matter

sly elk
#

they're evil

dire viper
#

you dont need good weight distribution in a commuter car

sly elk
#

make them illegal

umbral moss
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Evs are literally 18k AA batteries slapped together lmao

sly elk
#

take them all off the road and crush them

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nevermind that they're quiet, don't vibrate, don't rumble, don't make loud VROOM VROOM noises

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(admittedly the tire pollution part is bad)

dire viper
#

well

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the fucking batteries are horrible also

umbral moss
sly elk
#

same

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i think people who modify their cars to make pop pop bang noises should be arrested

dire viper
#

i would prefer straight piped V8's to having to deal with the ramifactions of having landfills full of cobalt and lithium

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because there is only one facility in the US that can properly recycle car batteries

umbral moss
dire viper
#

both

sly elk
#

jfc lol

umbral moss
#

One man's junkyard is another man's mine pogianger

sly elk
#

feet lover is like a walking talking book of anti-ev talking points xD

dire viper
#

real

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cause its proven that pure EV's are just worse

sly elk
#

so does he work for FCA

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or does he work for chevron

umbral moss
dire viper
#

just buy a prius

sly elk
#

LOL

dire viper
#

yes

sly elk
#

well he was a porsche mechanic right

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but I have ahard time imagining a porsche enthusiast being anti-woke

dire viper
#

if you want an economical car buy a prius

sly elk
#

i mean I guess

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my old ceo was

dire viper
#

wtf you mean anti woke

sly elk
#

dude was a grifter, too

dire viper
#

the only reason EV's are so prominent is because of lobbying

umbral moss
dire viper
#

most new porsche buyers are young

sly elk
#

does it?

umbral moss
#

But imagine thinking that evs are woke lmao

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Good gravy

sly elk
#

like

umbral moss
#

Things you don't like aren't automatically woke

sly elk
#

i didn't think driving a porsche was the equivalent of driving a ram 2500HD with certain flags flying in the back

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i thought they were a little more

dire viper
#

what are we even talking about anymore

sly elk
#

idk

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i'm a mess todya

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i'm stressed out and tired and just fucking around atm

dire viper
#

anyways. EV's are bad. Hybrids are good. non petroleum based hybrids (ethanol) are better.

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hydrogen is bad due to laws of physics such as entropy.

sly elk
#

lol isn't ethanol the ultimate lobbying thing

umbral moss
#

Evs are good, you're just mad because Porsche can't cram a fist sized cylinder in it

dire viper
#

yea we subsidize corn for ethanol but its not used properly

sly elk
#

also becaiuse porsche's whole identity as a brand is behind sticking a cute litle motor in the back of a flattened beetle

dire viper
#

remember the craze of running cars off of fryer oil lmao

sly elk
#

without a gas engine all you get from porsche is the taycan

umbral moss
#

Ethanol is fucking trash to burn lmao

dire viper
#

yea

umbral moss
#

It's so fucking noxious

sly elk
#

and the more i look at taycans the more like wow wtf

#

why did they go all hog trying to imitate tesla

#

the interior is so bad lol

#

i'm sure they used the highest quality leather from the finest virgin cows

umbral moss
dire viper
#

the leather is real leather at least

#

The Taycan does just have a better interior than a tesla as well

#

anything does at this point

umbral moss
#

That's not a high benchmark lmao

dire viper
#

a base civic has a better interior than a tesla

sly elk
#

but like

umbral moss
#

So does hydrocarbon refining lmao

sly elk
#

it looks like they forgot to finish it

#

there's no accents anywhere just a sea of black plastic

dire viper
#

there is a 52,000 USD gap between these two cars

umbral moss
#

That's typical for the weird austere/minimalist style these days

sly elk
#

but even tesla usually offers accents

dire viper
#

the new Taycan is much better

sly elk
#

like the rgb lighting and the white seat option and stuf

#

that civic looks like the designer had a seizure

#

nothing lines up lol

umbral moss
#

Everything needs to be styled like a fucking prison cell to remind you that you are a wageslave shackled to the whims of a faceless megacorp

dire viper
#

also Porsche specifically marketed towards Tesla buyers with the Taycan and it worked

#

so its the consumers

sly elk
#

LOL @umbral moss the lsat time i rented a hyundai

dire viper
#

40 year olds who think big screen = high tech

sly elk
#

one time i rented an elantra and i realized what people mean when they call that kinda car a 'penalty box'

umbral moss
#

Give me fucking buttons you dicks

sly elk
#

-poonits at his 57" screen-

#

IT IS HIGH TECH!

#

(not really)

dire viper
#

you can get different interior options tho

#

Porsche base cars are always black on black interior

sly elk
#

@dire viper sure for like $120k you can get a taycan with a pretty nice interior

dire viper
sly elk
#

with wood or aluminum or carbon fiber dash panels

umbral moss
dire viper
#

just wood

#

carbon fiber is gaudy

#

as per Porsche Design lmao

sly elk
#

@dire viper I'm complaining about the sea of black shiny plastic

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because it's all screen lmao

dire viper
#

fair

sly elk
#

i'm saying screens are a lazy way to design a car interior

dire viper
#

I agree

umbral moss
#

Carbon fiber isn't aesthetic at all, I don't know why people think it's a good accent or primary style

sly elk
#

like what's the point of spending >$50k on a car when it's just screens everywhere

dire viper
#

but id rather have interesting screens than one middle one

sly elk
#

I remember this being a huge thing with rolls royce

dire viper
#

thats just an ipad

umbral moss
#

Just straight up non aesthetic

sly elk
#

sure feet, sure, the taycan does look a lot better, I'll agree there

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especially because you can get them in lovely colors

#

like the pale blue and pale pink

umbral moss
sly elk
#

but yea rolls royce used to take pride in like, having the nicest feeling vent adjuster knobs

dire viper
#

the Taycan is built off the Panamera, and the new Panamera is going the screen route with some physical buttons (YAY)

sly elk
#

and their buttons and knobs were awesome

#

why is it every time they revise the panamera it gets worse lol

dire viper
#

I mean yea

sly elk
#

gimme back the space shuttle button console xd

umbral moss
#

It sure is lmao, what did people expect from a polymer stuffed full of tiny fibers

dire viper
#

if you dont properly seal carbon fiber and you breath it in you have massive health ramifications

#

its just asbestos was just chillin

#

not sealed with resin

sly elk
#

lol

#

i wonder if they ever made a car with an asbestos interior

dire viper
#

yummy asbestos insulation

umbral moss
#

These are the kinds of idiots who cut fiberglass batts without a respirator and wonder why they have asthma

dire viper
#

yes

sly elk
#

@umbral moss ask any construction worker what they think about osha lol

#

or PPE

#

they'll probably use some words that would get you in trouble in this chat

umbral moss
#

Asbestos is great at what it does, the problem is that you can't damage the substrate at all playdead

dire viper
#

I do like how unbelievably simple the Cayman/Boxster interiors are

sly elk
#

^

dire viper
#

the 911 also is, it just has a big screen that does actually work pretty well

sly elk
#

my only complaint with those is the shape of the ac vents aint all that pretty, but it got better with the refresh (round top instead of weird square shape)

umbral moss
#

There are shitloads of buildings where they still have asbestos insulation and it doesn't make sense to try to abate it since the abatement would introduce a problem that isn't happening haha

sly elk
#

that looks better than the taycan

#

it's got more shapes

dire viper
#

also Porsche keeping AC controls physical is like

sly elk
#

it does get weird like why do they think someone would care about a screen in the dashborad

dire viper
#

the biggest thing

#

who tf thought AC controls on a screen were good

sly elk
#

yea

#

the best ac controls are knobs

dire viper
#

WHY DO I HAVE TO CONTROL THE VENT DIRECTION WITH A TOUCH SCREEN??????????

sly elk
#

like i admit my jk jeep had better hvac controls than my jl does

#

the jl still has a knob for fan speed at least

#

but the temperature and mode are buttons

dire viper
#

as much as I hate to say it. Audi/BMW/Lamborghini with their central digital screens have a much better layout than 99% of EV's

#

cause its right in front of you

#

also it locks you out from doing weird shit when you are driving

sly elk
#

mm

#

also

#

i'll bitch about our cadillac for a sec

#

the radio volume, hvac temp/speed, modes, are all capacitive touch controls on a shiny black plastic panel

#

this sounds shitty and it is

dire viper
sly elk
#

but my favorite shitty part is you can adjust the radio volume by swiping left/right

#

but not the hvac fan speed

dire viper
#

Ferrari did the same thing with its current models and everybody complains about it

#

apparently some big buyers didnt buy the newer cars cause of the controls

sly elk
#

lol

#

that said, I can mute the radio by pushing the 'hang up' button on the steering wheel

dire viper
#

the issue is the supposed "luxury" arms race

#

mercedes is the only one that doesnt go for it cause its mercedes

sly elk
#

and the steering wheel in that xts .. i actually like its design a lot. the one they replaced it with is awful

#

both have physical controls, mind you

#

it was just like they decided it cost too much and went with a cheaper design

dire viper
#

but BMW, Ferrari, Cadillac, Acura, Infiniti, Genesis, Lexus, VW, Audi are all in this arms race to add the most horrible controls to their top trim cars

sly elk
#

my favorite funny thing is the cruise control up-down is a rocker switch with 2 clicks

#

the first click increases/decreaes by 1mph

#

the second click increases/decreases speed by 5-10mph

dire viper
#

VW put capacitive controls that literally do not work if the car is too cold on the Golf

#

like

sly elk
#

yea I've HEARD THINGS about VW's UI being the worst UI ever

#

in terms of using capacitive controls

dire viper
#

its slow

#

so slow

sly elk
#

aren't tey the assholes that used capacitive controls on the steering wheel too?

dire viper
#

doesnt work if the car is cold

#

and im talking not even that cold

#

Cali cold

#

shit just doesnt work if you dont have it in a heated garage anywhere else

umbral moss
#

Isn't vw from fucking Germany, where it's goddamn cold most of the year

dire viper
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dire viper
#

one of my friends bought a brand new Golf R and hated it so much he traded it in for a GR Corolla

#

he just hated the controls

#

and its Utah, so during the winter he would have to wait for like 10 minutes before driving before the computer fuckin heated up enough to work

sly elk
#

yea to be fair as you know, i'm very forgiving with car interiors

#

but bad controls piss me off

#

and really, this has been happening for a while. remember when they replaced handbrakes with that stupid little switch

dire viper
#

the handbrake thing is whatever to me

#

or like the weird handbrake foot pedal

sly elk
#

to be fair once you get used to the little switch

#

using a regular handbrake/footbrake feels like a damn chore lol

dire viper
#

there was some lawsuit that went nowhere over the button activated parking brakes

umbral moss
sly elk
#

that said footbrakes suck xD

dire viper
#

cause people were claiming that electronic parking brakes were causing a bunch of accidents but on board computers proved people were just being idiots and crashing lmao

umbral moss
#

There was a recall on mine because the fucking circuit had a bad cap that would blow and disable the epb

dire viper
#

wack

umbral moss
#

my car is a fucking manual

dire viper
#

emergency parking brake?

sly elk
#

i still hate electronic parking brakes

#

in my own experience they're slow

umbral moss
#

There's no mechanical backup

sly elk
#

and sometimes they don't really confirm that yes you triggered it

umbral moss
#

If the epb fails there's nothing stopping my car from rolling away pogianger

dire viper
#

I thought they were bad until I drove a BMW with a DCT and you can use the parking brake to loosen up the rear still agony

sly elk
#

lol

dire viper
#

its literally instant

#

i love hydraulic braking systems

sly elk
#

that said bad handbrakes are funny

#

the one in my jeep is terrible

#

so there's 2 cables, one for each rear wheel brake

dire viper
#

dont get me started on the handbrake that the first 3 years of 914's had

umbral moss
dire viper
#

they arent when they freeze

umbral moss
#

You pull it and it brakes, the end

sly elk
#

and when you pull the handle it pulls a cable attached to a t-shaped bracket

#

that pulls the other 2 cables

dire viper
#

ive had cable parking brakes freeze on me before

#

shit sucks

sly elk
#

and

#

once you use the handbrake enough times, that T shaped bracket starts to act funny

#

which results in one of two things

dire viper
#

AHA I found it

umbral moss
#

I had a cable brake on my Saturn and I needed that shit when the fucking brake lines rusted through and I had no hydraulic pressure pogianger

dire viper
#

this parking brake folds in half

#

cause

#

the 914 has the handbrake between the door and the seat

#

its goofy as hell

sly elk
#

either A you pull the handbrake and for some reason it doesn't have the right tension so you can pull it about 25% up further to actually apply the brake, but it sticks

#

or B, you pull the handbrake the usual amount and lock it in place

#

and then it makes this cartoonishly loud BANG!

dire viper
#

yea

sly elk
#

and the handbrake isn't on anymore

dire viper
#

adjusting cable handbrakes also sucks

#

on older cars its easy

sly elk
dire viper
#

but on newer cars its fucking cringe

sly elk
#

it's not terribly uncommon, either

dire viper
#

yea I dont mind the hand brake between the door and the seat

#

lots of cars do it well

#

but also lots of cars do it poorly

sly elk
#

i think there were at least a few cars that had the handbrake next to the door

dire viper
#

cause you have to come up with a weird system that allows the parking brake to be in the down position while the parking brake is still on

#

so some cars do it where the parking brake is flacid until you press the button

#

which confuses the hell out of people

sly elk
#

wtf

#

so you can put the brake up, let go of the button, and then put the lever down while it's still applied?!

dire viper
#

yea

#

it works fine

#

just a weird concept

sly elk
#

tbh it would make more sense if handbrakes worked the opposite of how they do

#

like instead of pulling to apply the brake, pushing

dire viper
#

and you pull it back up to top, press button, then pull up again, then drop with button still pressed

#

and then let go

#

and the parking brake is disengaged

#

its super easy

#

but its just weird

sly elk
#

that sounds more complicated than it needs to be

dire viper
#

you will only ever see that system in super low slung cars

#

like the 914 and like Lamborghini's

#

but vintage ones only

#

I probably couldnt find a video to show it but

#

its way simpler than how you explain it

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haptic buttons, weird ass shift knob, weird ass infotainment

wild wyvern
#

but then i thought why not just upgrade my gpu too?

#

but although that can come later

#

im not sure

odd sand
#

@deep sapphire Apparently tonight was Fleury night for his 1000th game

odd sand
#

Ski jump competition last weekend was a little lacking...

compact pine
#

did you respond with K in that large story?>

sly elk
#

now that's a cozy wfh day

#

but let's talk about the maximized teams window

odd sand
#

Lol I dunno why that other one got linked

sly walrus
odd sand
#

Had a 6 on 4 power play for the last 2 mins but the Wild held them off

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Was like 45F so they almost didn't hold the competition

#

Had a thunderstorm and 55F for a high yesterday and the first recorded tornado in Feb in state history

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Or was that 2 nights ago. Whatever

deep sapphire
#

I haven't been having good luck with old laptop hard drives lately -- and this Toshiba Libretto 50CT isn't helping.

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flat osprey
#

anyone have recommendations for gaming earpieces?

deep sapphire
flat osprey
deep sapphire
flat osprey
#

Im thinking about picking up this

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1More triple driver earpieces?

#

but they cost 130$

deep sapphire
#

130 dollars for ear pieces concernedfrog

#

maybe for the whole headphones

flat osprey
#

yeah

#

I dont mind paying more for headphones if its waterproof and noise reduction

#

for some reason whenever I google waterproof headphones I get earpods

#

which is like

#

a completely different thing....?

sly elk
#

different priorities XD

deep sapphire
#

most people who want water proof headphones are shopping for earbuds so im not entirely surprised

#

being they are used for outdoor/fitness

#

sweat and stuff

flat osprey
#

yeah

deep sapphire
#

your usecase is unique though not entirely unique cause mine also went to shit but they are replacable

#

I have hyperX cloud S headset

#

replacable earcups were like

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10 bucks?

flat osprey
#

apparently theres fabric ear cups

#

that should work

deep sapphire
#

Alright

flat osprey
#

is the headrest leather or plastic

deep sapphire
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Leather, it’s probably gonna wear out but I’ve had mine for years now

neon shell
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I forgor the model name

deep sapphire
neon shell
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That might've been it

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let me try to find it

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Isn't Toshiba Japanese?

neon shell
flat osprey
deep sapphire
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You could just wrap it with something to prevent it from getting ruined

flat osprey
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cause for me my previous headset has like

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black particles coming out

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and its so hard to pick up and clean them

wild wyvern
neon shell
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Mine too

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When I had it, I would say at the last couple years before it just no longer worked, it made a really loud high pitched noise every time I turned it on. I think the battery was the cause of that

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And it never shutdown all the way

wild wyvern
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😂

neon shell
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I used it everyday for hours straight because of school so it was bound to happen sooner than later

wild wyvern
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Untill one day it turns on but there was no display

neon shell
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Classic

wild wyvern
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i assume the gpu got roasted

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Nowadays i dont see an toshiba laptop anymore

neon shell
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The dust probably ruined the gpu’s fan

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Toshiba expanded to separate sectors so I’m assuming that’s why

neon shell
wild wyvern
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They did HDD too if i remeber

neon shell
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I don’t remember

wild wyvern
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But ye

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old lappy's are stronk

neon shell
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Ye

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I’d rather have Toshiba over dell

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I never liked dell

sly walrus
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fuck dell

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all my homies hate dell

neon shell
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That’s a popular opinion?

sly elk
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wow this dude on redidit

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he's got more screen than i do lol

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quite a bit more

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to be fair I do have 3 24"-ish screens and 1 34" laying around that I could use

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but it would look awful

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i rhink it's funny when you scroll through the posts on /r/battlestations and it's like
"here's my 10 monitor setup!" followed by
"i decided to go minimalist so I have 1 27" monitor now"

modern iris
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Why do people need that many displays?

sly elk
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this is mildly disappointing lol

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i bought my mom a stream deck because I was thinking, it'd be nice if she had hotkeys to answer incoming calls through her computer or call us or whatever without having to mess with her phone lol

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and uh

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well well well, macos doesn't actually seem to have a scripty/hotkey sorta way to answer the incoming call notification

zinc sluice
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Is the only way to downgrade ios discord app jailbreaking

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ive had auto update off for a while since they started rolling out new ui shit

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And now they forced it

outer sand
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any tips on making my phone minimalist with minimal purchase?

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I feel like I play too much on my phone, haha

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is there any way to turn off icon and just use list of app instead

outer sand
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ended up with before launcher 👀

potent arrow
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that's all I have on my home screen lol