technology-discussion

[modern iris]

That thing.

[potent arrow]

yaaaaa

that's fine

MSI memes

I knew it lol

it's fine, I've benchmarked those cards they can get loud as shit

[modern iris]

It doesn’t break 65°C under load.

And even at 1080p ultra, Cyberpunk is a whopper of a game.

[potent arrow]

I just know that those cards go cray

[modern iris]

I like it.

My little rig runs everything. Ryzen 5 4500, 3060 and 32GB RAM.

Wait, is that considered a little rig?

[potent arrow]

mines probably much smaller and have more power so

mines sub 9L

That's another case solved

fans not plugged in

I've gone around to liking the stupid fucking discord forums, really helps out keep track of thinfs

[sly elk]

some cards have very aggressive default fan curves

so do some aio water coolers lol

[modern iris]

I love my PC... I bought a Series X but wound up going back to my PC for some reason.

[potent arrow]

lmfao Hank jfc

[modern iris]

How does that card even connect to the motherboard?

[deep sapphire]

PCI-E

[modern iris]

I don't see a PCI-E attachy-thingy in the picture.

[deep sapphire]

[potent arrow]

it's a GPU? just slot it into the pci-e

other side

[deep sapphire]

its on the other side

[potent arrow]

haaank

HAAAAANK

we needa cook.

[modern iris]

I ask because all the pictures make it seem like a solid block and I can't see the PCI-E attachy-thingy in them.

[deep sapphire]

im not a cook sorry

[modern iris]

Goddamn that is a chonker of a GPU

[deep sapphire]

it sure is

its way overbuilt too

because this thing never gets above 60

they should really reduce the size of the card lol

[modern iris]

I have one of those big-ass Deepcool coolers on my CPU.

[deep sapphire]

pretty good for the price

[modern iris]

I rage quit with my last PC because I had one of those stock Wraith Stealth coolers that was impossible to bolt down properly.

[deep sapphire]

fuckin AMD stock coolers are the worst

they havent changed the mounting hardware in 20 years

I owned an old socket 939 setup

[modern iris]

My PC started to cook basically. I was staying at 94C idle.

[deep sapphire]

same stock cooler design

intel is bad too

the push pins

circa pentium 4

[modern iris]

I've only been building since 2007. Socket 939... You mean like single core?

I think I had an AMD Athlon Venice in my first rig.

[deep sapphire]

yup

my first build had an Athlon 64 2200+

[modern iris]

First rig was that, a 9600 GT and 3GB RAM I think? And it still refused to run Black Ops 1 because it was single core.

Second rig was 1050TI, 8GB RAM, and an i5. Last one was a 2070, 16GB RAM and a Ryzen 5 2600. Now I have 32GB RAM, a Ryzen 5 4500 and a 3060.

Well, second's initial build was a 750 but I bought a 1050 to play DOOM 2016.

[kind rune]

i thought u said u dont have a 4090

[modern iris]

I actually had a 7600GS in my first rig to start, but my ex-stepdad gave me a 9600 GT for some reason.

[deep sapphire]

I did?

thats a

uuuuh

7900GTS

yuh

[kind rune]

c

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

how do you remember that

[kind rune]

i remember everything

[deep sapphire]

thats good

my memory sucks I feel like im genuinely gonna end up with alzheimers in my 50s LMAO

[kind rune]

thats only 3 years away

[modern iris]

I remember my first build like it was yesterday.

[deep sapphire]

its all over for me

[kind rune]

deletes message whats all over for you?

[wise jay]

why be a gamer if you dont have a 4090/s

[modern iris]

I'm happy with 1080p ultra.

[deep sapphire]

what did you say

[late basalt]

https://tenor.com/bhvGx.gif

[deep sapphire]

1080P?

you gotta play at 8K

[modern iris]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-computer-fire-gif-21352118

[wise jay]

ya I dont think I see my 4090 go above 60 C for long ever

[deep sapphire]

sitting in limsa (yes I get it its ffxiv) its only at 43c LOL

[deep sapphire]

H I G H R E S

[bitter girder]

i love PNY

i loved how sleek the 2000 series looked by PNY

[deep sapphire]

Yeah I miss the old xlr8 logo

[wraith agate]

https://tenor.com/view/mobius-spinning-honkai-impact3-mobius-spin-gif-23726572

[sly elk]

sigh. people debating AI on hackernews

Modern Luddites can go back to churning their own butter.

We're going to have incredible Pixar/Disney/Ghibli-beating animation tools within months. Creatives stuck in low-autonomy roles in the Hollywood studio system can finally break out on their own.

The ~1500 domestic productions per year (and ~15 tentpole productions per year) will balloon out into the long tail of fulfilling every interest. That furry steampunk vampire creator can satisfy his or her audience, meanwhile you can have all the 1950's Asimov content your heart desires.

That dude is drunk on AI kool-aid

you probably could do away with sweatshop frame-by-frame animation but that's mostly been gone for years anyway i think

[graceful pine]

Manual frame by frame animation still does exist but nowhere near what it was in the past in terms of labor

[umbral moss]

I don't know where these cryptobro turned AIbro fucking idiots are getting the idea that ml algorithms can generate new and novel content like contracting a real person

[kind rune]

so mappa DOESNT draw 3 million frames every episode?

[graceful pine]

Nowadays they like print each individual scene using software and stuff

[umbral moss]

I suppose if you consider a remix "new content" then yeah, ml will make new studio ghibli videos faster than miyazaki can, provided you wanted a sequel to kiki's delivery service

[graceful pine]

Not like the days where it would be done by hand

[umbral moss]

Isn't that why anime pioneered the three frame animation?

[sly elk]

random blast from the past lol

[umbral moss]

Phones were small before people figured out you could watch porn on them

[sly elk]

-looks over at foldable phone-

[modern iris]

Ahh, pornography- driving technological innovation.

[umbral moss]

It really does lmqo

The reason betamax failed was because Sony didn't license it to porn companies in the early 80s

[modern iris]

Humanity will sail the stars in its pursuit of tiddy.

[umbral moss]

Yeah

When humans make first contact with an alien species, there will be a gathering of the greatest minds of the human race

Someone will turn to someone else and ask "can we fuck it? If not, can we eat it?"

[odd sand]

Member when phones first got 5 inch screens and you were like wow this is huge!

Then a few years later they had to increase the size of the Samsung Note bc the regular Galaxy phones were within .2" of the same screen size

[umbral moss]

The last truly great mobile size was the zune hd

[sly elk]

That's pretty much what every animal does when presented with something

the "can I eat it?" bit specifically

https://tenor.com/view/tucan-bird-funny-hello-cute-gif-17427806

[sly elk]

Omg lol

Hahhahahquqhqyq

This dude covered up the menu TV prices with tape

I would love to know what happened lol

[outer sand]

I just want to read mangas with it haha, mine currently is too small sometimes I have to squint (pixel 3a)

but it will be a while till I upgrade since this phone is still going strong

my previous phone just died on me, everytime I charged, the charging is always pop charging error

[graceful pine]

I like large phones lol

I also got quite big hands and really thick fingers

So it’s more comfortable

[wraith agate]

They got destroyed by the Hut

Those pizza no more

[sly elk]

so here's the weird thing. I have small hands and like my fold4 because... if I can't use my phone with 1 hand I might as well have a giant screen lol

but also

when it's folded shut, I can reach across the narrow outside screen with my thumb lol

[wraith agate]

Yes

[paper tusk]

just add some plastic fish and it'll be fine

[sly elk]

ye

[neon shell]

That’s my water bottle sir

Gotta stay hydrated

[odd sand]

Simplest answer is: food cost inflation has been crazy the last couple years, so they probably couldn't afford to keep updating all the signs every 1-2 months.

So some of the pizzas that didn't sell well and had expensive ingredients that would rot and get thrown out were taken off the menu, and overall the prices have changed too much/often for them to bother with prices on that board anymore

[real edge]

Have you worked with any 4080 super models yet?

[potent arrow]

a few, but not many

[real edge]

any standouts in build quality so far from what you have worked with?

[potent arrow]

same usual suspects lol

Aero cards and Strix basically

[real edge]

👍

ty

[torpid kayak]

hm, PC desk models I found either has curve on the back or a hole on surface to cater cables
which one would suit a monitor arm better? 🤔

[outer sand]

Generally nowadays any IKEA table or desk are nice

A rectangular shape, no weird shape

[torpid kayak]

"I Kill EA" desks are nice 🤔

[outer sand]

For cable, you can just saw a little bit at the back just enough to place cable against the wall

It doesn't need a dedicated hole heh

[torpid kayak]

I want one like shape like this

[outer sand]

Isn't that too thin?

😱

It will wobble

[torpid kayak]

the leg or the tip of the leg?

[umbral moss]

Plywood is mad strong in most thicknesses, but I wouldn't trust MDF that thin

[outer sand]

The table itself, this is mine

[umbral moss]

Sawdust and glue don't make great structural material

[torpid kayak]

which one would be waterproof better? 🤔

[outer sand]

Avoid this bruv, get the IKEA one, last forever

[torpid kayak]

what is IKEA one?

[outer sand]

Lagkapten I think

[torpid kayak]

I mean, what is IKEA? a brand? I make it myself?

[outer sand]

Nani, where do you live

Yeah, a brand

If you tell me where do you live, I might be able to look for alternative brand

There should be one in each country

[modest moss]

be careful with the cheap IKEA ones, they're sometimes cardboard inside and weak af

[outer sand]

But generally I just use IKEA as standard lol

[torpid kayak]

Vietnam lol

[sharp star]

https://fxtwitter.com/DannyVegito/status/1752816123777610043

[outer sand]

https://g.co/kgs/4ZdWx7G

Wot, why 1 star rating

Diy isn't big there?

[golden stream]

Viet here
We don't have IKEA officially

Ye DIY isn't big here

At worst peep would commission woodworking workshops

[outer sand]

What the heck

[torpid kayak]

well you can order a customized one 🤔

[golden stream]

Ya

But

[outer sand]

Good to know

[modest moss]

look at kitchen/dining tables too, I've used those before

[golden stream]

Ya better ask the workshop for custom order

[golden stream]

Actually that is kinda worse

[outer sand]

Dam, do they have safety standard?

[golden stream]

N O P

[outer sand]

I'm too reliant to IKEA, lol

[modest moss]

what you can't get those either?

[golden stream]

The best option is asking for a DOOR and use it like a table

Bc doors here are sturdy lol

tks Optimum Tech for that tip

[modest moss]

it does sound like paying a guy for a custom build desk/table is the way to go if it's affordable

[golden stream]

^

[modest moss]

at least that way you get the exact size you want

[golden stream]

Like ngl the custom route works better than IKEA route

A lotta household don't have decent tools just to assemble the IKEA stuff

[torpid kayak]

well, used to be my plan last year. just change the measurement to 120x70x70, no wheelies 🤔

[golden stream]

well we DO have sorta knockoff IKEA-inspo stuff on shopee or whatever but srs don't trust em

[torpid kayak]

also, rubber tree wood/natural wood or whatever it means

[outer sand]

better don't you'll need a company with reputation that adhere with the country safety standard

[golden stream]

What safety standard

[outer sand]

not random ebay stuffs

[golden stream]

Most workshop commission stuff are somewhat decent, better than rando ebay

Tho kinda a bit rando depend on how the carpenter would improvise

It's a bit hit or miss at least in my city

[modest moss]

people do overthink desks a lot, it's just a flat slab of wood with legs, if it's sturdy and level and the right height, gg

[golden stream]

Eh I wish I don't overthink the desk since my desks aren't comfy, one is wobbly as hecc and another is tricky to sit w office chair

[golden stream]

Ya that should be fine, just make sure that the metal frame is well stabilized

[torpid kayak]

hm, the frame has joints 🤔

normal nowadays?

[golden stream]

Ehhhhhh I'd expected better

But ya normal office table frame

Not my fav tho

[torpid kayak]

17mm natural wood for the surface. Not too thin?

[golden stream]

Hol up

[outer sand]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1074128910691319/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3Acae0167d-67c6-43a6-896b-984ca9617540 there's a popular IKEA table here

IKEA copy or?

[golden stream]

Ikea copy fr

[outer sand]

3.4cm thick

[torpid kayak]

hm I prefer no shelves. Want freedom for my lower body 😄

🤔

[lost python]

17mm is tiny and will probably not be thick enough if you ever decide to get a monitor arm or similar

[outer sand]

get 3.5cm thick if you can

[lost python]

i think 2.8cm is like the average in most cases for proper tables. thicker exists but is usually also a lot more expensive

unless you get something from ikea which is literally just cardboard honeycombs inside

[outer sand]

wait, that's an ikea?

😱

I even use my 8nm DD wheel and dual monitor clamp

and no problem so far

[lost python]

yeah ikea tables are literally this

[torpid kayak]

the clamp sinks in?

[lost python]

fine for most stuff still, but yeah. not solid at all

[outer sand]

ic ic, I never knew, I guess I'm one of the lucky one 😂

[lost python]

some people just get a thin board or metal sheet to put between the clamps and the table to give it a bigger surface area to spread the force on

[torpid kayak]

nice idea
add another honey comb under the clamp

[lost python]

[modest moss]

I fell foul of that ikea carboard shit some years back, I had a curved desk and bought a small ikea desk to cut and try to attach and make it a corner desk and it was a fucking mess

[lost python]

i learned this the hard way too. i had a very wide desk from ikea and over time the tabletop just started bending downwards because of the weight of my screens and stuff

[outer sand]

dam, is it because of the weather in US?

humidity in my room is like 40-60% all year around lol

it's like heaven for wooden stuff

[torpid kayak]

60% year round :3

[sharp star]

https://fxtwitter.com/tha_rami/status/1753052393242018000 oh here's some good news

[lost python]

nah ikea is just badly built

[outer sand]

I heard in the US, if you own a guitar, you'll need a special cabinet and dehumidifier that checks out the temperature etc lol cause wood bends

ic ic

[lost python]

or rather, there is a reason why ikea is cheap and affordable

[graceful pine]

No

I do have a humidity pack for my acoustic

My electrics just stay in their cases fine

[outer sand]

ah yeah, but it's a hassle to put a guitar in a case everytime

[graceful pine]

Plenty of people just hang their guitars too

I like to keep in cases because I’m clumsy

[lost python]

tbh no matter where you are, humidity changes and temperature changes will move the wood, thats just how wood is
and thats why you just have to take care of it

[sly walrus]

entropy is not an american invention

[graceful pine]

Maxwell was Scottish

[outer sand]

dam good to know, I'll do those preventative measure to prevent it bending, been good 2 years now

something like this yeah? https://youtu.be/TB3kPZZemMU?si=dVlBKxWsMoNoqFPV&t=421

[lost python]

ye can help

[outer sand]

ty ty

[inland mauve]

I put a piece of wood between my desk and the base of my monitor arm for my heaviest monitor

[graceful pine]

My desk is just already quite thick

[inland mauve]

another advantage of that is that it also slightly increases the base of the monitor arm, giving you more space to work with

[graceful pine]

And nothing heavy is on the part where my legs go

[compact pine]

if were still talking ikea me and my wife have the sitting/standing desk , non electric an it fits my case 27" and a 24' monitor fine

[outer sand]

my IKEA has 3 clamps 😂 I think I will need 6x solid wood for each clamp for top and bottom

[outer sand]

I'm just worried that it will eat the table overtime hehe

It's fine in 1-3 years probably

[compact pine]

i think its been three years now and showing no wear and tear yet

the top was pretty heavy which leads me to believe its not just that honeycomb stuff

[outer sand]

thats what I also thought really, it was quite heavy 🥲

[compact pine]

This is an older picture but even fully extended standing it is pretty solid and I think it was $200 CAD or maybe a little more

[outer sand]

is that trotten?

https://www.ikea.com/au/en/p/trotten-desk-sit-stand-white-s79429579/ this one?

[compact pine]

yes i think so

[outer sand]

yours isn't honeycomb

mine is this lol

[compact pine]

and your securing things to teh desk via screws right>?

[outer sand]

you mean with the 5 legs? yeah

[compact pine]

nah i mean like accesories

[outer sand]

table clamp

[compact pine]

i c

i have one clamp mount for mt 24" monitor and its shown no wear

[outer sand]

my clamp mount has 2 x 24, shown no wear so far, but I don't mind taking extra precaution

[compact pine]

i think i have your exact ol;d ikea table, its currently in a other room being used for other crap lol its almost 9 years old

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h7QG7W14qs

[outer sand]

what do you think of alumunium instead of solid wood for the plate?

is alumunium or wood better?

[lost python]

as a table top or as a plate to slip between the clamps of something?

[outer sand]

as the plate yeah

sounds stupid, but not sure why I was thinking of aluminium

[lost python]

i'll always prefer wood. a properly sized alu plate would also be heavy as fuck

[outer sand]

doesn't make sense, but wanted to make sure

ok

ill just ask those home depo shop here and make one, thanks

[outer sand]

also must be timber or plywood is enough?

[compact pine]

Plywood is pretty solid

[outer sand]

I have no idea what to choose from 😂

[lost python]

ply can be just fine. it also depends on what you wanna do with the table.

[umbral moss]

Plywood is way fine, I literally said this like two hours ago lmao

We use 3/4" (19mm) plywood to hold up 450kg optical benches in our manufacturing area lmao

It creaks when you walk on it but it's been fine for 10 years

Engineered wood is designed to be dimensionally stable, it's why cabinets tend to be plywood boxes with fine wood doors

Osb is also pretty close to indestructible, most stick frame homes use it for subflooring

[outer sand]

ty ty

then ill get one of those x 6

for top and bottom lol

[royal forge]

Is it possible to remote into my android phone via wifi?

as in, im too lazy to go check my phone for a photo

is there a way i can unlock and use my phone from my PC?

[lost python]

doesnt windows have some build in service to connect your phone?

[royal forge]

because i'm that lazy

[lost python]

oh yeah, phone link

[muted spoke]

If you're logged in to Google on your phone, check Google photos

[royal forge]

nah. i dont sync the photos

[royal forge]

the one problem is that i need to reach over to install it into my phone now

so

HAHAHAH

ah well

i really am lazy lmao

[lost python]

well it wont work without actually accessing your phone at least once

[royal forge]

awwww

ROB IM LAZY

[lost python]

[royal forge]

im busy looking at model kits

thats more important

right?

[sly elk]

no

[outer sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee28StZVcr0 oh what, I just read this

Kyoto Animation case

[kind rune]

[odd sand]

This isn't exclusive to IKEA, it's simply the issue with non-hardwood or "synthetic lumber" or w/e. Need to spread the weight out over a larger area. Same concept as snowshoes

[odd sand]

Yeah... I'm just now getting the will to start watching KyoAni stuff again...

[modern iris]

Someone at work was making fun of the KyoAni fire and I'm like.. Dude, the fuck is wrong with you? 36 people died because of this jackass.

[sly walrus]

tell hr about that guy

das a red fuckin flag

[outer sand]

I heard Japanese prison has a good reputation, learn Japanese for free and they teach you how to be a good citizens properly

and whoever comes out from there rarely commit crime again, and to receive death sentence just explained how messed up this person is

lost a lot of talented anime artists 😱

[lost python]

idk how good a prison can be that doesnt supply you with soap and gives you 15 seconds to shower every 2-3 days

[dire viper]

no form of incarceration is good

well, there are some, but literally only exist in Northern Europe

[dire viper]

and this? this is an issue

cause jp conviction rates are 99% or something ridiculous

its better to just say it was you rather than go through all the legal trouble cause they want the system to be as efficient as possible

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/31/24057392/apple-vision-pro-battery-lightning-cable

[inland mauve]

Ace Attorney is partially a parody of the Japanese judicial system

[sharp star]

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/02/01/tim-cook-wears-apple-vision-pro-vanity-fair/

[dire viper]

why is it so overpriced

Apple really just not hiding it anymore

[sharp star]

Apple

[outer sand]

I think they've been like that since forever 😂

[sharp star]

https://www.androidpolice.com/google-assistant-driving-mode-shutting-down/ another one for the graveyard

[potent arrow]

WHAT

THATS HOW I DRIVE

[graceful pine]

Their legal system is infamously harsh

Only four developed countries still have the death penalty

(Some)US states, Japan Singapore and Taiwan

[umbral moss]

It's wild how the "law and order" countries also have the death penalty and such rigged efficient legal systems

[dire viper]

Japan and Singapore both are "conform or die" levels of societal pressure

Singapore not allowing gum is by far the most insane thing ive ever heard, I get littering but throwing people in jail for weeks over chewing gum is insane

its delusional even

[graceful pine]

But Singapore still has its authoritarian streak

Nvm it’s still illegal

[dire viper]

they still cane people

[graceful pine]

It’s very much still authoritarian, though not nearly as bad as other countries in the region

[odd sand]

Not when they charged $1000 for a monitor stand?

[dire viper]

they could come up with a bs reason

but this is just super blatant

they came up with a bs reason for 500 dollar roller wheels for the mac pro

[odd sand]

Only virgin titanium milled by 72 virgins fed only grass-fed veal

[dire viper]

so real

[bitter girder]

metal wheel

🤤

[manic turret]

Hey everyone, I'm looking to upgrade my CPU but here is my current build

CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 3600 -- GPU 3060Ti --- Ram : 16GB --- PSU: 850w

Should I upgrade my CPU to the 5800x3D or 7800x3d?

[odd sand]

That's an AM4 system so the highest you could do would be a 5800X3D.

The 7800X3D would require a new motherboard at the very least. And it requires DDR5 as well, so if you have DDR4 currently, that would also need to be switched out

[potent arrow]

That being said, the 5800x3D is pretty good

[umbral moss]

I'm excited to start getting the bobbins together for new build season

[dire viper]

I think the 5800X3D is gonna be a top tier CPU for a while

the 5700X3D probably also will

kind of a weird SKU, slightly worse than the 5800X3D and I believe they said its just the chips that werent good enough for the 5800

[potent arrow]

I've said this multiple times, it's the 1080/ti of CPUs

shits gonna haunt me to the end of fucking time

[sly elk]

for reals

[odd sand]

We'll have to see what Intel has up their sleeve with 15th gen. Linus made an offhand comment the other week about seeing them and being super excited for it, so I hope it's not buggy af or something

[potent arrow]

Ive sold too many 5800x3Ds already

they are loose in the wild

My top two most sold CPUs in the recent year are the 5900x3Ds and the fucking i3 12100f

they will come for me in my sleep

there is no escape

[golden stream]

why the i3 tho

I mean if for prebuilt office stuff, ye reasonable

[potent arrow]

the i3 12100f is amazing budget gaming cpu

98$ cad

will basically run anything at 1080 or even 1440p with a 6800

a lot of systems I sold recently was that combo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0PS4zPNrzk

it cooks well.

[dire viper]

I think my GPU might be dying 😭

its putting up a fight against youtube videos

but I haven't had issues with anything else yet so idk if my shit is just wonky

[potent arrow]

nuke your browser

[dire viper]

I have a few times

its weirdly hitching frames and not loading

my internet is fine

I did have a random complete computer melt down a few days ago

[kind rune]

whats ur gpu usage while watching a video

[dire viper]

that was extremely scary

[dire viper]

let me check el capitan

[kind rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_VUrnGKeIs is this actually running on a phone

it has to be cloud streaming or something right

[dire viper]

my GPU is not changing at all in open hardware monitor

idk if it sjust not enough of a load or

my GPU is not reporting

AH it changed by 1 degree

[potent arrow]

r u using adblocker lol

cuz there was an update that made it lag on utube

[dire viper]

i am but I am using ublock origin which didnt lag

the lagging issue was an update bug

its fine now

I did uninstal some old shitty MSi software that I had from my previous mobo...

maybe thats causing issues

[golden stream]

not really......??

KojiPro had been working on porting DS onto iOS devices

but not entirely sure if it's cloud streaming or nawn

[potent arrow]

I dont think tis streaming

arm processors can be pretty powerful yo

[sharp star]

GameStop has their own SSDs now?

[dire viper]

scary

[jaunty nacelle]

it's probably just rebranded

[real edge]

this was one of the cheaper models

for some reason

even though it is good

the stuff in my case are all black

so this will contrast

but I was looking for a well made card

[sharp star]

probably, but who knows

if someone gets their hands on one of those SSDs and takes a look then maybe we will

[outer sand]

yeah, take those aliexpress unbranded electronics and rebranded it

many guitar pedals also works the same way, introduced as 'budget' stuff

then you realised many budget brands have the same products

[odd sand]

Yes it is, but only iphone15 plus and above I think they said, and maybe the latest galaxy S24 as well.

It's not that surprising to me given the Steam Deck and ROG Ally exist

[golden stream]

the thing is, Kojima himself said about DS on Apple tho

so I think it may be more or less Apple exclusive for a while

tho ofc android could pull that eventually

[odd sand]

The game came out on PS4 originally so I can see it being tweaked it could run ... of course given they say it overheats like a mofo it probably takes it to its limit tho heh

[golden stream]

ofc ya

[outer sand]

wont have the same graphic quality

probably pixelated version in the phone version

[golden stream]

not entirely sure hmmmm

at least kojipro opti for apple port so maybe they would port properly but then again it's JP dev game hmmm

eeeeee kinda hard to say until someone review it properly

[odd sand]

The PC port of the game was solid

[paper tusk]

if you're using firefox and it's been open for most of the day, close and reopen it. there's a bug/feature with the way it caches streamed video

[snow cypress]

Im getting a new motherboard today and wanted to know a recommended thermal paste to get

[inland mauve]

I tend to get Noctua coolers even though they're a bit overpriced, and those come with a tube of thermal paste

[snow cypress]

I already have the nzxt x53 cooler

[inland mauve]

did it not come with thermal paste?

[snow cypress]

Oh the pc is already built im just getting a new motherboard

[sharp star]

Arctic MX-4 or MX-6

can’t go wrong with them

[inland mauve]

ohh I see

[modern iris]

I still like the old server rack/pizza box style cases- why don't we use them anymore?

https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/comments/g43cu9/pizzabox_is_my_favourite_case_style_here_is_my_hp/

A case like that.

[sharp star]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/5fe5ae1b2f132b617a57eb58c642c71c7549a3a7

[potent arrow]

ending dx9 support is brutal

[sharp star]

now end PS4 support

[lost python]

Space and noise

[modern iris]

How many people are still playing on DX9?

Also, yes, end PS4 support.

[umbral moss]

Ps3 limitations, please understand

[sharp star]

friendship ended with PS4 limitations, Series S limitations is now my new best friend

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/2/24058985/google-search-cache-feature-discontinued

[sharp star]

https://www.techpowerup.com/318425/amd-radeon-rx-7800-xt-pricing-slides-to-below-its-usd-500-msrp-rx-7700-xt-below-usd-440

hold?

[signal fable]

@real edge it finally arrived

[real edge]

https://tenor.com/view/izuna-blue-archive-fox-anime-gif-26080871

enjoy it, you deserve it

go play every game maxed out at insane fps

(except for ray tracing)

[sharp star]

I'm trying to convince someone on another server to get something that's not a 3060

I think it's a futile effort because they haven't brought up any use case they want RT on a 1080p card

I keep telling them "get the 6700XT" but it always comes back to RT

[potent arrow]

6600 PLS

*6800

LOL

tired

throw it at them

[real edge]

the 3060 cannot do ray tracing

[sharp star]

or yeah the 6800XT

[modern iris]

I can do ray tracing with mine

[sharp star]

Ray traced shadows, maybe

[real edge]

I meant at like, a playable fps

[sharp star]

But like

[real edge]

60

[sharp star]

the guy wants to run Minecraft RTX on a 3060

[real edge]

ohh minecraft

you know

[potent arrow]

you mean the gimmick version of minecraft?

[real edge]

have you showed them the techpowerup relative performance chart

[sharp star]

mhm

[potent arrow]

This sounds like a young kid that I rip off irl

too much parent money

[sharp star]

lol

they're trying to get a decent GPU for $300 or less

[real edge]

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4080-super.c4182

[potent arrow]

LOL

[real edge]

show them this relative performance chart

maybe data can convince

[sharp star]

every answer I get from them makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spork

[potent arrow]

youngin with parent money

sell them a 4080 NO MORALS

[sharp star]

I'm convinved that they're convinced that Nvidia invented ray tracing

[potent arrow]

make money off youngins get bitches

win

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[sharp star]

Because they keep talking about RTX and... not much else

THEY EVEN WANTED TO USE RT IN ELDEN RING TOO

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-reaction-information-my-reaction-to-that-information-my-honest-reaction-to-that-information-gif-613275461876515673

[inland mauve]

Elden Ring doesn't need RT

the lighting in that game is very deliberate

[sharp star]

Yeah except they're so bullheaded about wanting RT

[inland mauve]

RT barely adds anything and in some scenes it even makes it look worse

I know this because I tested it

[potent arrow]

game looks like shit already

[inland mauve]

personally

[potent arrow]

make it more muddy

[inland mauve]

oi

[potent arrow]

wait thats because im colorblind

[inland mauve]

they use a lot of blue at least

[sharp star]

I even asked them about games that made heavy use of RT like Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk and all I got was silence

[potent arrow]

isnt the magic supposed to be greet

greet...

gtren

........

[inland mauve]

and I think that the Altus Plateau looks the same to a deutan as it does to someone with full colour vision

[potent arrow]

is that

uh

mountain land

[inland mauve]

it's the yellow plateau around the big city

[potent arrow]

or piss land

piss land.

[inland mauve]

yes

it's piss land to me too

[potent arrow]

I can't make out half the textures there

Ik kan geen shit zien

my ass selling a 4090 to a 15 year old for Minecraft

[sharp star]

but yeah

[inland mauve]

also the magic has a few different colours depending on what you cast

[sharp star]

If you want a GPU for ray tracing but don't know what you want to use it for

then maybe don't

[inland mauve]

glimstone magic is blue

[modern iris]

Minecraft runs on a potato.

[inland mauve]

gravity magic is purple

[potent arrow]

nah

[inland mauve]

holy magic is piss

[potent arrow]

Minecraft is one of the hardest to run CPU intensive games out there

it's fucking hilarious

[sharp star]

Oh and they're on like

a Zen 2 Ryzen 5

[potent arrow]

modded makes Minecraft into a thermonuclear ram bomb

[sharp star]

I forgot which one, probably a 3600

[modern iris]

Then how does it run on a Switch?

[potent arrow]

that's not bedrock

[real edge]

I consider ray tracing an extra on the 4080super that I bought, maybe I will enable it to see what the fuss is about but I will disable it if it makes the game look the same at a heavy performance hit and since I have a 240hz display, I will be able to somewhat see the performance drop lol]

[potent arrow]

switch is the mobile version or the rewritten version iirc

[inland mauve]

ray tracing looks incredible in CP77

[sharp star]

Not a lot of games make heavy use of ray tracing

[modern iris]

1080p ray tracing in 2077 looks good.

[sharp star]

unless it's Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2

[inland mauve]

it also looks pretty good in hitman

[real edge]

none of the games I play really use ray tracing, except for darktide

so meh

[inland mauve]

Darktide looks great

the inside of the Mourningstar

[real edge]

I did hear that ray tracing makes you see enemies easier and better in darktide so that is interesting

probably a false rumor

[inland mauve]

huh

yeah nah

[real edge]

I have my 1070 so I cannot test it

[sharp star]

yeah that's a load of bunk

[inland mauve]

if you want to see enemies better get a higher resolution

[sharp star]

I don't see how RT makes you see stuff better

and it certainly doesn't give you a gameplay advantage

[real edge]

I see

I am amused that a good 4070ti super model costs 950-980euro here but a good 4080super model costs 1200 at most

[potent arrow]

oh

I think I was sent a 4070 super to review

[real edge]

the cheapest 4080super model costs 1120 and its the shitty ventus

[potent arrow]

I didnt get a chance to check if it was

but something from newegg is sitting on my front porch when I left for school

how bad could it bed

[sharp star]

god I should've avoided MSI in the first place

[real edge]

But I got an aero OC 4080super for 1200euro

[potent arrow]

Djura have you not heard me bitching about msi here

JOIN THE MSI HATE GANG

[sharp star]

I did

their masterful engineering hit me late last year

[potent arrow]

[inland mauve]

I have an Asus GPU

[real edge]

I was tempted to get a Suprim X because I heard that the PCB was amazing

but was talked out of it

[potent arrow]

vomit

[sharp star]

I ended up getting another 4090 but it was Gigabyte this time

[potent arrow]

gigashite my beloved lmfao

[sharp star]

(it was a Christmas present too)

[inland mauve]

oh wait maybe my GPU is Gigabyt

[potent arrow]

I stan gigashitters

[inland mauve]

i forgor

[sharp star]

terashits per gigafart

[potent arrow]

Im actually hoping that they sent me a 4070 super

I did request it, but didnt think they would send one

[inland mauve]

oh man almost weekend

I am out of steam for the workweek

[sharp star]

I dunno why but

I've had the best experience with Gigabyte products lately

Used to be Asus but they kinda fell off

[real edge]

asus strix is well built

but the TUF models less so

for the supers

the 4080super tuf asus has 12+2 vrm phase

which is meh

cheap-ish

asus

gigabyte gaming OC

[potent arrow]

Ive always had historical good experience with gigashart

so i recomend them a lot

TUF has a lot of coil whine

its

ARRRRRRRGH

[real edge]

thanks to you I got an aero OC lol

even if pcb does not matter much it feels safer having more phases

[potent arrow]

I just know they work lol

[real edge]

4 more for the gpu voltage and 1 more for the memory over the other MSRP/cheap models

for not much more cost

if the shitty ventus was 1130

[potent arrow]

i miss evga :(

best gpu manufacturer

[modern iris]

Biostar is ass though. Got a board with a faulty DIMM.

[potent arrow]

don't think I've used one of those before lol

[modern iris]

What’s the best PSU now that EVGA is gone?

[dire viper]

EVGA bought from other companies

Seasonic etc

Their top PSU’s were from Seasonic

[potent arrow]

EVGA still makes psus

just not GPUs

[modern iris]

I had a Corsair PSU last time. Wasn’t bad.

[potent arrow]

My top brands for PSU are be quiet, Silverstone and seasonic

corsairs I only use for budget because I have them fail occasionally

I've sold mostly bequiets that being said

[lost python]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

[modern iris]

thanks!

[lost python]

alternatively what sarah said. corsair is a bit iffy because they have some almost same-named models that are pretty different in quality though

like RM vs RMX

[potent arrow]

corsair green labels deserve to be legally labeld as a bomb ngl

[modern iris]

Hippie van 2.0?

[lost python]

https://youtu.be/wxlHq_EuxFU

[manic turret]

What gaming headset do you guys use?

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/LordRavenscraft/status/1753462540573565362

Eric Ravenscraft (@LordRavenscraft) on X

when Hbomberguy highlighted the extent of James Somerton's plagiarism so hard that he disappeared off the face of the earth, half the examples were less blatant than this

Twitter · Feb 2, 2024, 4:57 PM

[potent arrow]

https://youtu.be/1PpHeorQjDA?si=c_zyNoDvlQhiGbjJ

pick one

I can vouch for them all

[manic turret]

Ty! I’ll watch that now

[potent arrow]

those are the ones I rec to everyone here and the ones I sell to clients

[modern iris]

is 9000dpi too much DPI for a mouse on a 27" display?

[manic turret]

I’ve always been a fan of Corsair products honestly

Usually a bit costly, But the quality is there

[potent arrow]

this is actually the budget options really

I've always said that if you pay more, get a dedicated set up

[manic turret]

Hopefully I can find a wired HS80 on sale. Its 99$ right now

[potent arrow]

because they are basically at the limit of USB mics

[sly elk]

evga uses seasonic for the g6

but evga is frustrating because they have like 10 models and they all have different OEMs

[potent arrow]

I mostly buy bequiets stuff

[sly elk]

be quiet psus are fancy af

are you talking about for your own build? Like... the machine that had a leaky AIO?!

[potent arrow]

as nice as they get really

lol no

remember my computers always are built from scraps

[sly elk]

i used a corsair rm1000x when i got the 3080ti and it's been ok, but that's just 1 computer. sample of 1. xD

[sharp star]

https://fxtwitter.com/KateKozuch/status/1753425540025856483 why

[sly elk]

i assume corsair would be more popular for issues because it's a popular brand

LOL

time to go to macrumors and see how bad the koolaid drinking is

[potent arrow]

their green labels are bombs

[sly elk]

lemme quote this dude

Again, what Apple are promoting with Vision Pro is something else entirely: an invention. It is a standalone AR computing headset, meant to be what comes after a laptop or even iPad. I wish them lots of luck. Ultimately, with Apple spending profuse amounts of money trying, for a change of pace, to be a pioneer, competitors are no doubt jotting down many notes to produce an iterative, popular successor.

it's the second coming of jesus. yours for just $3500.

oh also, it turns out

https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-vision-pro/see-your-mac-screen-tan357ede966/visionos

Both devices must be signed in with the same Apple ID using two-factor authentication. Mac Virtual Display does not support Managed Apple IDs.

you probably can't use it with your work computer

[modern iris]

I just want holographic keyboards and computer screens.

[sharp star]

the future sucks tbh

[modern iris]

Or a holographic TV so I can just mount the emitter on my wall without worrying about how heavy the thing is.

[sly elk]

that said

if they actually stick to it and the tech advances nicely, it could be really awesome in 5-10 years

[sharp star]

apparently the FOV for the AVP is 110 degrees

which is like

first gen HTC Vive levels

[modern iris]

When does full dive become an IRL thing?

Ok, scratch that, I don't want full dive to be a thing if people like Kayaba Akihiko are in charge. I don't want a VR headset that can turn my brain into tater tots if I lose.

https://tenor.com/view/tots-tater-tots-gif-12499623

[dire viper]

this shit is a cult

omw to buy a product I wont use more than once and its severely overpriced compared to direct competitors

[modern iris]

I bought a used Macbook Air once and felt like an AppleDrone.

[odd sand]

Probably bc they wanted the goggles part to be snug and formfitting, so they cut off your peripheral vision like a pair of ski goggles

[sharp star]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-cook-wiggle-happy-apple-apple-event-gif-21253073

[odd sand]

So it's the same value per se as a 3yo card. Which sounds good until you realize things are supposed to get cheaper for the same price over time...

[deep sapphire]

the thing is

GPUs have never done that aside from select eras

and even then not really like

take the GTX 280

to like

GTX 680

they never gave you the full die

and you still paid a shit ton of money

the GTX 280 was like 649.99

[sly elk]

i gotta admit, the android+windows integration works about as well as the mac+ios integration lol

except for sending texts literally screen mirrors the text messaging app lol

[marble dagger]

if anyone know or know anyone that know how fix black sqaure flickering on screen, please direct them to my topic in tech support channel, i'm desperately need help

[potent arrow]

I've responded please check it out

[marble dagger]

oki

[old jetty]

Hello people, I have a question

I calibrated my monitor not using the msi osd, but a 3rd party app (novideo rgb) to apply an ICC profile and calibrate the gamma to sRGB

And it does work great

Problem is, I also use the monitor for my consoles, and this only works when my pc is turned on of course. Any way I can replicate the result even when my pc is turned off/calibrate the screen with the same setting definitely?

[sly elk]

with most monitors, no.. there are a few that support updating a lookup table stored in the screen itself, like some LGs do that

interesting reading the feedback about apple vision pro on reddit lol

some people are having a better time

[potent arrow]

I'm really considering one lol

people are using it in the model hobby

just so we can have manuals up

[modern iris]

Wait, so you can read the manual while you build gundams/models?

[potent arrow]

yeah

and have like Vallejo and other paint catalogues up

[dire viper]

Couldn’t you get a quest for way cheaper and have AR

People be using them for DCS already

[lost python]

worse quality AR is the downside of the quest

still not sure if that justifies a 3500$ price increase

especially considering that apple headset is heavy, has a bad headstrap design and needs an external battery

[potent arrow]

the quest has much more latency then the vision

which is a huge deal breaker for AR

and for doing things like model making for example

Apple's screen quality is also apparently really really nice and bright

[potent arrow]

I'm just gonna get one second hand when I can and probably mod it if I can for the headstrap

[dire viper]

Apple execs probably mad that Facebook was having success with VR

[lost python]

eh. they have been working on VR/AR for quite a few years now

and apparently they have no reason to be mad because alledgedly the 200k units they produced already sold out

[dire viper]

Is the Valve Index with the goofy controllers still the best for gaming?

[lost python]

depends

for VR chat? probably. otherwise? nah

[dire viper]

You can use the controllers with other headsets right? It’s not reliant on having an Index

[lost python]

still has one of the best FoVs and the only grip sensitive controller on the market really, but its big, needs a cable, needs external sensors and the resolution aint special anymore either
plus most big titles are all meta exclusives or PSVR exclusives

yeah as long as you use steamvr

[dire viper]

That’s kinda nice

Yea I do not like the VR exclusivity stuff it’s kinda getting old

Cause there are games entirely kneecapped by the PSVR/Quest

Or they just don’t sell well

[lost python]

yeah you are kinda forced to get a quest if you want the fancy games, but then again its not like anyone else has a decent headset at a good price either on the market

[dire viper]

Yea

I still don’t have a headset cause I just can’t justify spending money on it, I’d literally only use it for DCS lmao

Maybe I’ll get a quest eventually

[lost python]

its just annoying if you cant PCVR with some meta exclusives to get better graphics or something and some gamedevs even downgraded their pcvr versions to accomodate native-quest players

[dire viper]

Wack

[lost python]

plus the quest also requires you to get an external battery pack for it, because the internal battery maybe lasts you for 1-2h of gaming

hell my quest 2 even goes down to 30% after 40min of browsing or watching videos

[dire viper]

Wtf

[lost python]

its like 2 years old now and the battery isnt holding up that well anymore

[dire viper]

Nah I’d need something with AR and the ability to be plugged in constantly

And being plugged in doesn’t cause the battery to shit the bed

[lost python]

you can plug it in, but then you are ofc again bound by a cable

[dire viper]

Ye

If I’m sitting down it’s not a big deal

maybe I will get a quest then

[potent arrow]

I have an index I borrowed from school permanently.....

[lost python]

most people just buy third party headstraps since you can swap them easily, and they come with hotswapable batterypacks that also serve as a nice counterweight

[potent arrow]

I only use it for driving sim.....

[dire viper]

Wym permanently

[lost python]

assetto corsa was my primary use for my quest for a long time

[potent arrow]

school never asked for it back

[dire viper]

I couldn’t do racing sims in VR

I just use trackIR

And normally I don’t even use it

[lost python]

it can be scary
but being an immersive weeb and driving a skyline through tokyo is neat

[dire viper]

Fair

I’ve done lots of irl track driving

Sim driving is numb

Not being able to feel everything through the pedals is sad

[lost python]

can only go so far afterall. some people mod stuff to be more realistic but thats expensive

im fine with the wheel FFB going though the wheelstand and my loadcell pedals

[dire viper]

Yea that’s fair

When I’m doing circuit driving I am using all the forces from the car, steering and pedals to drive

ACC does a really good job with the FFB cause you’ll feel a lot of the track

Also being able to physically feel G’s is another thing you won’t ever get in sim games

Cause I know the tires I’m on and I know the limit of grip

Just by the cornering force

[deep sapphire]

imagine racing with FWD

LOL

[lost python]

yeah even the motion sims can only do little to simulate that

[dire viper]

A FWD converted Audi TT Quattro won a pretty big endurance race in the US

I forget which one

But they removed the haldex system and just tuned the engine to the limit

First FWD car to win that race out of the 2+ decades of them running it

I like how there is nothing bad with FWD other than under steer but enough tuning can negate it mostly

The “FWD is bad” thing comes from the fact that it was cheaper to make cars with it but every desirable sports car remained RWD

[modern iris]

Even in Forza FWD is complete ass.

[dire viper]

Well yea it’s Forza

FWD does have issues but there are FWD civics that run faster lap times than million dollar plus purpose built GT cars

[modern iris]

Yeah, I had a 2018 Civic R for my starter car and it handled like shit.

Most of the tracks in Forza 8 are F1 tracks- probably built for RWD cars I'd imagine.

[dire viper]

Tracks aren’t designed for a type of car normally

It’s just forza being forza

[modern iris]

You mean bad physics?

[dire viper]

Ye

The Civic Type R is actually a really well handling car

It’s famous for it

[potent arrow]

Forza horizon SUCKS at wheel racing if that's what you are talking about

[modern iris]

Controller.

[potent arrow]

oh no clue then lol

I use a racing rig for most of my racing if I'm not doing it irl

[dire viper]

Forza remains relevant because they add all the popular cars

[modern iris]

Like I go flying off the fucking track half the time.

[dire viper]

Literally half the people I have talked about it with said they only drive the super cars/bmw/JDM

[modern iris]

I did one event in a Mclaren, another in a Hyundai Veloster, one in a BMW, uh... can't remember what else.

[deep sapphire]

no FWD is bad because it understeers like shit and its a physical limitation on top of being severely limited by the power you can put to the steering wheels before they torque steer

a RWD car will always out perform a FWD car

[dire viper]

I mean that’s not true

[deep sapphire]

yes

yes it is

torque steer

is a real thing

[dire viper]

The Mk1 GTI was faster than every Ferrari road offering when it came out around a track

[lament pine]

sorry guys

[dire viper]

A well sorted FWD car can perform extremely well

[lament pine]

i stole #952326072542847016

it's upstairs now

good luck finding it there

[deep sapphire]

an old ancient car was faster than another old ancient car

lets move to 2023

[deep sapphire]

poor guy we were just helping

🤣

[lament pine]

[deep sapphire]

hope he can find it

[dire viper]

It’s why Civics still make world records purely FWD at world time attack

The limitation is how far you are willing to engineer a solution

[deep sapphire]

a RWD/AWD system

will out perform a FWD

[modern iris]

Are there racing games with decent physics?

[dire viper]

Depending on a lot of stuff

[deep sapphire]

Forza 8 for as bad as it is has pretty good physics

[dire viper]

Yes, Assetto Corsa and Assetto Corsa Competizione

Competizione specifically has the best out of a newer game

[deep sapphire]

@lament pine

[modern iris]

Do you need a sim rig to play that?

[deep sapphire]

where even is it?

OH nvm I see it

[deep sapphire]

nno

[dire viper]

You don’t need a rig, simple pedals and a wheel will do. Controller even works but it’s difficult

[deep sapphire]

its intended for controller users but it has some wheel config stuff

[potent arrow]

bro it took me a second to find smh

[modern iris]

I must be thinking of iRacing.

[potent arrow]

I immediately forgot you moved it

GIST while you are here

I have a question

[lament pine]

[potent arrow]

if you are still here

[dire viper]

iRacing is kinda cringe

[potent arrow]

was the threads in existence two years ago??

[dire viper]

It’s subscription based

[lament pine]

which threads

[potent arrow]

that tech support

Because he necroed a post from 2022

[lament pine]

tech support came along with shue i think

hank would know better

[potent arrow]

I didn't think it was around then 0_0

[dire viper]

Anyways, FWD good

Lots of cooler mods you can do to FWD cars to edge out performance

[deep sapphire]

FWD is ass

[dire viper]

FWD especially good in rally

[deep sapphire]

great for economy cars

thats it

the fact that the type R is the fastest FWD car period tells you enough

not to dog it, I like the Type R

but there are WAYYYY more RWD options

[dire viper]

I miss my old Sebring cause I would rally it

It was great cause the bumpers were so soft you could pop them back out when they caved in

Rare Chrysler W

The Type R is the fastest full FWD car

But lots of FWD biased cars are faster, those with AWD

I wouldn’t count Haldex as a true 4WD system but a few of the Haldex specials out of Germany are proper fast

A few of the RS cars are

Can’t even get more than 50% of the power to the rear

you can if the front wheels come off the ground lol

[deep sapphire]

most AWD cars are not FWD biased

[dire viper]

Most aren’t no

They’re normally 30/70 or 50/50

Or they’re viscous fluid coupling or clutch based like Haldex

[modern iris]

So cars can have different drive ratios?

[dire viper]

Yes

[modern iris]

Huh- didn't know that.

[dire viper]

They should bring back direct drive

[modest moss]

#952326072542847016 came a few months after I became mentor iirc

[dire viper]

It should not be the top gear, instead let me have it instantly

[deep sapphire]

yeah we added it because people were coming down here with issues and getting drowned out

[potent arrow]

huh

[dire viper]

car talk in the tech channel

[potent arrow]

it's been so long...

car is tech

[dire viper]

Fair enough

omw to buy a Mini GP and put a real dual clutch transmission in it cause it has a dinky outdated one

oh

The Mini GP is faster than the civic type r

That’s the only one that’s faster

For FWD cars

The Type R lap records got scrubbed cause Honda has been caught cheating twice now

They keep cheating by changing ratios and boost mapping

So their official Nurburgring lap records and other stuff got dinged

[deep sapphire]

this guy basically summed what I was trying to explain earlier

source reddit ```I'm confused as to why no one has mentioned this:

RWD is generally considered better than FWD due to the fact that it separates the drive wheels from the steering wheels.

There's only so much grip a tire can afford before losing traction.

Coming through a corner with FWD, you will take a percentage of grip away from your ability to corner when you go to accelerate out of the turn. For example, if you accelerate exiting a turn, you'll more easily overwhelm your front tires' maximum grip, thus causing understeer. No one likes understeer.

With RWD, you'll have more grip available when accelerating out of the turn as the front grip being used to change your direction is not being taken from the same tire you're using to accelerate with. Your front tires are able to put 100% of their available grip towards changing the car's direction (after braking, and right as you pass the apex and get into acceleration), and the rear tires are able to put a percentage of traction towards following the front wheels as well as a higher percentage towards accelerating. There will be a higher amount of grip available to accelerate you from the rear tires here as those same tires aren't also being used to turn. Sure, your chances of oversteer are higher in RWD, but you can balance this a bit better and use the throttle to modulate rear slip to rotate the car (controlled, minimal oversteer without losing traction) for a faster exit than FWD.

Source: 18 years of daily touge driving in the central California mountains in RWD Nissans and various FWDs when the Nissans are broken lol```

[dire viper]

ye

RWD is generally better

you do have less traction but that entirely depends on setup and tires

[modern iris]

So the power is on one set of wheels and the steering is on the other?

[dire viper]

there is a reason why in NASA they have FWD cars beating out trans am cars

[dire viper]

for RWD yes

turning a an object that has lots of rotational force being applied is way harder than one that does not have a lot applied

its why adding big brakes to everything is not a good idea

[deep sapphire]

you have less traction because you are trying to steer with the same tires that are putting the power down

[dire viper]

messes with how the cars drive

[deep sapphire]

thats a physical limitation you cant escape

[dire viper]

ye

just go to better tires

Cup 4R's

[deep sapphire]

or just

buy a RWD car

[dire viper]

not even a GT4 RS can break Cup 4R's in a corner

[deep sapphire]

and have the same good tires

[dire viper]

and I know that from experience

[deep sapphire]

and have an edge

[dire viper]

I hope we get a FWD car with all wheel steer soon

cause the Mini GP I drove had very little understeer

and a lot of the monster cars of the last few decades have had AWS

R34 GT-R Skylines turn scarily well at mid end speeds, Super HICAS helps a lot

[deep sapphire]

mechanical AWS is fairly unreliable but EVs can do it easily so you will see it more on that

HICAS was cool but there is a reason they stopped making it

[dire viper]

Porsche had some issues with AWS early on but now its pretty solid

[deep sapphire]

plus there was a tendency for it to glitch out and randomly engage

[dire viper]

yea

the first thing a lot of people who own GT-R's in the US do is delete HICAS

mostly because you cant buy the parts for it, and Nissan wont let US dealers import JP specific parts like Toyota does

you can go in with part numbers to Toyota dealers and buy Kei Car parts its very nice

oh neat the Lexus LC and LS 500 have an option for Dynamic Rear Wheel Steering

[umbral moss]

Building the ship of theseus one catalog line at a time

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEmO8DcOap4

lmao im glad he pointed out about the tech journalism

[graceful pine]

just have AWD drive here

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1753592410754474173 but why

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Apple is selling a $300 USB-C dongle for its $3,500 Apple Vision Pro headset 🙃 https://t.co/SRQ9zcdXwY

Twitter · Feb 3, 2024, 1:33 AM

[modern iris]

And I thought the ZuckerGear was fleecing the fuck outta people.

[sly elk]

Oh yea especially a car where all 4 wheels have their own motor

You can make the outer wheels spin faster on a turn lol

[sharp star]

Quest headsets are affordably priced at least

[modern iris]

I throw the electronics department sometimes- saw the prices on the Meta Quest and wanted to hurl. Like... $50 for the fucking charger cord?

[sly elk]

Yeah

Vision pro does some ambitious stuff though

More ambitious than the tech it has lol

[modern iris]

I hate throwing electronics freight. Like we begged them to fix the locking cases for a year or more before the locks finally got repaired. And the frames are so bent up a lot of them barely shut anyway- my question is this- if you aren't going to maintain your merchandise protection, why bother? Just leave it asscheeks hanging out for people to steal, you're doing that anyway.

[sly elk]

Lol