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umbral moss
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FineWine driver technology 👍

snow cypress
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Is the keychron k8 pro worth getting?

lost python
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@potent arrow oi keychron simp, answer this

potent arrow
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........

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yes its worth lol

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pro just means via enabled most of the time

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and hotswappable

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I think I bought a k8 for someone, its worth either ways

dire viper
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do they make full keyboards

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oh wait yea they do i was lookin at them

lost python
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they have so many models i dont even know which to look at tbh

potent arrow
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whatever you like

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just get a via one : P

snow cypress
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Got a Amazon gift card from work, now would be the best time to get it lol

lost python
potent arrow
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very versatile remapping : P

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its just really nice

dire viper
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I hate keyboards without the numpad with a passion

umbral moss
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I don't intend to reprogram the micro, all I need is the ability to turn the leds off or change the color

umbral moss
dire viper
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awful

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I actually use my numpad a lot for no reason at all

umbral moss
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I only use it for excel so having somewhere else is kinda useful actually

dire viper
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its my radar binds for like warthunder and DCS cause lots of buttons that I can combo with shift, alt and ctrl

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its also faster that way cause its closer to my mouse and or joystick

umbral moss
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I might set it up southpaw since I use it so infrequently

graceful pine
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I don’t use the numpad that often

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But it’s still essential to have for the few things I do use it for

sly elk
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godzilla has landed!

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though I need to figure out the refresh rate vs cable vs switch situation xD

paper tusk
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o:

graceful pine
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That’s a really wide screen

sly elk
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it's almost as big as my 25+34+25 were (and more resolution, to boot)

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but

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it's a VA panel, and it sure as fuck feels like one

graceful pine
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And LcD ok

sly elk
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yea they make an oled but it's 49", i wanted the 57" and extra resolution xD

graceful pine
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No just normal led display

sly elk
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also why does this have to have only 1 displayport lol

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it has 3 hdmi though!

graceful pine
sly elk
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why not?

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you ever see something and want it just out of curiosity

graceful pine
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I just have a primary 27 inch

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Secondary 18

sly elk
dreamy chasm
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@potent arrow have you tried the keychron m4 mouse at all

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i just noticed it released recently

sly elk
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playing trackmania on this is kinda disorienting lmao

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it's so huge XD

potent arrow
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my superlight is too stronk

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I really do shill for keychron, but only the boards

dreamy chasm
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man

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I just need a small mouse

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a 🤏 mouse

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everything's too big for my fingertip grip

potent arrow
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I heard razer is better for smaller hands but ive never tried it

dreamy chasm
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the viper mini does have a smaller inner lip

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but

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the wireless isnt worth it

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iirc glorious makes a good clone

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i had it but sold it off bc the coating on it felt weird

potent arrow
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is their wireless shit?

dreamy chasm
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not sure tbh

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it felt about as good as my atlantis

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but i only used it for a good 2-3 weeks

potent arrow
dreamy chasm
potent arrow
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only mouse that really fits my hand LOL

modest moss
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check out maia with the fancy colour

dreamy chasm
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Hiii

potent arrow
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my issue with mice is the sensor

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and software

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superlight has a good sensor and Logitech G works

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Razer and Corsair software is borderline malware

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i heard the glorious sensors are hit and miss

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so >_>

dreamy chasm
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the bamf on the series one is a modified 3370

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according to Some Guy™️ on reddit

potent arrow
rain sand
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i have 32 gigs of ram

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should i get 64

dreamy chasm
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are you

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doing anything that needs 64?

rain sand
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no

dreamy chasm
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You shouldn't have to then

sly elk
dire viper
sly elk
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and razer software IS straight up malware lol. or at least, iirc it did crypto mining by default for a while?

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DCS killer?

dire viper
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DCS

odd sand
dire viper
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flight sim game

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my friend bought one of those monitors and had to upgrade to a 4090 to run it at full resolution at full refresh rate

sly elk
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ohhh ok

dire viper
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cause DCS is very intensive with everything turned on

sly elk
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yea, my 3080ti drives it at full res over displayport and hdmi.... at 60hz.......

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I need to see if I can improve that situation by switching cables lol

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wow this does get very bright

umbral moss
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Also, if you want 64gb of ram, get it broseidon

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It's not like ram is expensive right now and it's only going to get more expensive after the nand manufacturers collude in a price fixing scheme adjust their output to match demand

versed socket
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I'm currently running a 2080 RTX. 😕

potent arrow
sly elk
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FUUUUUUUUUU that moment where I packed my old phone in the box to send to the warranty company

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and I realize that I forgot to pull the sim card out lol

odd sand
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Oops. Can you open it up still or is it on delivery already?

umbral moss
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The only thing I ever used g for was to turn the RGB off on my g900 lmao

sly elk
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yea i can open it, and i just did lol. just annoyed that I had to

odd sand
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Most mice these days have a toggle for DPI, which is the only thing I really needed synapse for. Although I used it to macro some item pickups in Everquest prog server years ago lmao bc they were like 24hr respawn items on a table

versed socket
dreamy chasm
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i never asked for your opinion.

odd sand
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And if you want to change the USB polling rate I think you only need to run it long enough to change the setting, then you can close and disable it

versed socket
odd sand
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I hate the MMO mice bc I feel like I won't be able to press the correct one when I need it. Deathadder for life

sly elk
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and there we go!

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I'm still not sure how I feel about samsung's warranty process lol. The refurbs they send out look brand new, but they are definitely refurbs (I had to get a 2nd replacement because the first had a loose back glass panel)

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and the annoying part is they don't guarantee you'll get the same color phone as a replacement >>

umbral moss
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They could have shipped you a defective phone to replace your broken phone 👍

sly elk
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they effectively did lol

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and now I have a black fold4 instead of a grey one

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i'm.. actually ok with that change though

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man this monitor running at 60hz has the same odd behavior dell monitors do at 60hz

umbral moss
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You can see the strobe at 16.6ms?

sly elk
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maybe

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it's like I can see movement on the pixel grid

umbral moss
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I can usually see the line hum in a 60 hz lcd playdead

dreamy chasm
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I was talking to someone else and you ping me trying to butt into the conversation

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lol

dire viper
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tf you guys beefing over a mouse about

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also coming from an mf with the naga trinity this shit sucks for anything that requires lots of hand movement

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im gonna get a new mouse just cause this things too heavy

dreamy chasm
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I'm not beefing over mice

versed socket
dire viper
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why would you do that

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thats worse for games that require precise movements

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aka any shooter

versed socket
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I don't play FPS's, so that's not an issue for me. I mainly do survival games and MMOs.

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also RPGs.

dreamy chasm
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But, they do.

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Anyways

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If you need an mmo mouse specifically

versed socket
dreamy chasm
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I think Steelseries makes a 90g mmo mouse?

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Still a bit on the heavier side as far as fps mice go

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But it's probably as close as you can get to an actual middleground between that and the heavier mmo focused stuff

potent arrow
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I really want like

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a 30g mouse

dreamy chasm
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just get the zeromouse Kappa

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the keychron m4 gets really close to that, actually

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but the shape seems a bit awkward

potent arrow
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yeah it looks odd

dreamy chasm
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It might be workable

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They kind of don't give you room for your pinkey to rest properly though

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hmm

potent arrow
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my superlight is a custom, got it to 40-50g iirc

dreamy chasm
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makes me wonder how light the m4 is after some trimming

potent arrow
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I bet I can get it to 25

dreamy chasm
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dremel my beloved..

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you aren't using the hump in the back

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so you might as well drill holes in it

potent arrow
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My friend removed the scroll wheel on his superlight kek

dreamy chasm
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NAURR

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i could never

potent arrow
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LOL

dreamy chasm
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😭

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i use that stuff for browsing

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and jumping in fps games..

potent arrow
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the sensor/pcb is held in by two carbon tubes and the feet are just the bareminimum to glide

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fucking nerd is what he is

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Well he collects mice like I collect boards so

dreamy chasm
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makes senough sense

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i just a stock atlantis bc it (mostly) works

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id change the shape a bit to suit my grip better if i could, though

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like

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an atlantis mini sawed in half would be

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the perfect shape for me 😭

potent arrow
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it loks very cute

dreamy chasm
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yeah

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honestly

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the HSK Pro?

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Perfect shape

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perfect size

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I'm not paying 160 dollars

dire viper
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idk if I agree with mice that are just so light for the sake of being light

dreamy chasm
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I just like the size

dire viper
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you reach a point where its just too light imo

dreamy chasm
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I personally don't think so

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Light mice on a pad with decent control feel good

dire viper
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to me its like driving a car with too much power steering assist

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too light

dreamy chasm
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i just liking my cursor being where my hand moves

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I've unironically toyed with the idea of using a drawing tablet to aim in games at some points Skull

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but a pen isn't exactly

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comfortable to click with

potent arrow
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that thing has NO CONTROL

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I watch that shit slide off the desk

dreamy chasm
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i don't think I could use glass 😭

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i have a cordura pad and it feels like the right balance to me

potent arrow
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still using my xraypad : P

dreamy chasm
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im using the traigun you recommended me at some point

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i love it

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but i wish i got a bigger size

potent arrow
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I dont think theres a better manufacturer for mousepads then xraypad ngl, not just because their stuff has good surfaces

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but because of the size selection

dreamy chasm
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I just

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Hate how much my traigun L moves

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the rubber underneath just isnt as good as some stuff ive had

potent arrow
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get some of that spray adhesive

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if you get like elmers or cheap brand

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it comes off with like water

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d-dont ask how I knwo

dreamy chasm
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I have a wooden top 😭

potent arrow
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that didn't stop me kek

sly elk
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mm

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this monitor makes me want a monitor arm lol

sly elk
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this is so ridiculous lol

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who needs browser tabs?

golden stream
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meanwhile me: using tab tree

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it's rather nice tho adsthink

sly walrus
sly elk
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it's good but it would be better if it were IPS

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also per usual I'm disappointed at the number of ports. On the plus side, 3 hdmi ports and 1 displayport. That's nice! But the headphone jack is next to the hdmi ports, and there's only 2 usb ports. On a giant-ass monitor. wtf?

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oh well, at least it has more hdmi ports! (and it has 2 upstream usb ports o_O so built in kvm. neat.)

modest moss
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@potent arrow shush

potent arrow
sly elk
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any recs for a nice solid 7-10 port powered usb hub?

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shame I can't use tp-link stuff

paper tusk
umbral moss
lone glade
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about hopw much does a PC build cost?

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im thinking of building one this year

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for an average build

sharp star
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Because you can get a build that can easily hold 1080p/60 in most scenarios for around $500-700 USD

lost python
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also depends on if stores you can order from have special deals going on or if you have a solid market for used parts
and ofc what exactly you want to use it for

paper tusk
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Three IT security researchers from Technische Universität Berlin (TU Berlin) glitched Tesla’s driving assistant into activating a powerful “Elon mode” and were able to access the company’s secrets, Spiegel reported. Allegedly, all Tesla models are vulnerable to this attack.

sharp star
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masterful gambit, sir

dreamy chasm
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longevity is

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very subjective

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if you play AAA games on release every year it's probably going to need upgrades sooner than someone who just plays fallout 4 for the 50th time

deep sapphire
dreamy chasm
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You'd be surprised

deep sapphire
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im amazed people played starfield for more than an hour

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infact thats a good point why am I giving microsoft money for game pass still

potent arrow
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how to play Bethesda games

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go to nexusmods, find mods for a day or two

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launch the game

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play an hour

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quit for a few months

deep sapphire
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yeah pretty much

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bethesda is carried by the modding community kek

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which I have been told even modders want little to do with starfield

potent arrow
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because it's too boring LOL

deep sapphire
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whats the steam rating at now, like 25 percent

kindred brook
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my friend us having issues with their mouse

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while transferring things

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from Phone to PC

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but their keyboard is working fine?

deep sapphire
kindred brook
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define apeshit

deep sapphire
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is the mouse cursor jumping around or something

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is it losing connection

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is it wireless or wired

kindred brook
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@deep sapphire "it stops and goes"

deep sapphire
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is it wireless or wired

kindred brook
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@deep sapphire

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sorry

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its wireless

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lmfao

deep sapphire
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well, if it only happened during file transferring I guess I wouldnt worry too much about it.

could be anything, maybe it bogged the system down or there was some issue on the usb controller

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I guess if it occurs again try another USB port to put the bluetooth dongle in. weird phantom issues are hard to diagnose unless its always occurring

kindred brook
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thanks hank

deep sapphire
sharp star
kindred brook
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@deep sapphire

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oof

deep sapphire
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so they are uploading stuff from a phone and then putting it on an external drive at the same time?

kindred brook
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yea

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uploading from phone to an external usb drive

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or external hard drive

deep sapphire
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yeah thats pretty hard on your I/O, I bet the system was getting pretty bogged down causing the mouse to cut out

kindred brook
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she says

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shes done it before

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and it was working fine

deep sapphire
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well who knows then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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if it doesnt happen all the time we'll never really find out the root cause

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like a car you bring to the mechanic and they cant replicate the noise or something

potent arrow
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my morning has been great

deep sapphire
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I cant wait for windows 12 when they force everyone off local accounts

potent arrow
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TIME TO BYPASS IT AGAIN

deep sapphire
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MS account prompt always fuckin glitched out on me in Win11 lol, half the time I would try to type my password and it wouldnt even do anything

potent arrow
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OOB/BYPASSNRO my beloved

potent arrow
deep sapphire
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I really dont get the point like does MS think we all have 80 devices all connected with their cloud bullshit?

potent arrow
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bahahaah wait what the fuck did I just do

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no way that works

deep sapphire
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usually they have a skip option

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or "I'll do it later"

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w/e they call it

potent arrow
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not after a certain 11

deep sapphire
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I've always skipped it I dunno

potent arrow
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it's been a pain

deep sapphire
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I think the pro version is the only one allowed to have local user groups still

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basic home edition you are forced to use a MS account

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well "forced"

potent arrow
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yeah, I have to do the bypass for newer installs

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even then it sometimes doesn't work so you use a banned Ms account

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so it skips the step

real edge
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Full GeForce RTX 40 specs leaked NVIDIA has finalized the specs for the GeForce RTX 40 SUPER series.  The RTX 4080 SUPER is set to feature the fastest memory among the GeForce RTX 40 card lineup. While the original RTX 4080 already boasted 22.4 Gbps memory, NVIDIA is enhancing the SUPER variant with a slight […]

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chonky core increase for the 4070super

deep sapphire
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that 4080 Super looking real pathetic

umbral moss
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So the 4080 super is still worse than a 4090?

real edge
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yeah

umbral moss
deep sapphire
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if its only gonna cost 999.99 USD (supposedly) thats a given

real edge
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surely that will also be 1000euro right....right....? surely............. playdead

deep sapphire
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I dunno but I sure wouldnt buy it

real edge
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yeah

deep sapphire
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its like

real edge
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4070ti super seems like the winner the more and more leaks come out

deep sapphire
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5 percent faster

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woah

umbral moss
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5% faster but 35% more expensive

deep sapphire
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actually its 300 bucks cheaper (supposedly)

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wait was the 4080 12 or 1300 bucks

umbral moss
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I'll believe that shit when I see it

deep sapphire
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I cant remember

umbral moss
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Nvidia lowering prices, what is this, 2005?

deep sapphire
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I kinda do, the 4080 has always been a terrible value propisition like I hate Radeon but why tf would you even consider a 4080 over a 7900

umbral moss
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Because the 4080 exists to push people to buy a 4090

real edge
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7900xtx is like 880euro here, im sure its even cheaper or close to in the US

umbral moss
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It's only a little more expensive but like 60% faster

real edge
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but the 4080 is still 1100euro

deep sapphire
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only issue is unless you game at 4K you are literally throwing your money away because at 1440P all the top cards perform the exact same

umbral moss
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4k/144 isnt really viable anyway this gen

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Maybe 5090 can get there

deep sapphire
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the 4090 can do it just fine

umbral moss
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Maybe in olderngames

deep sapphire
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I play at 4K 120 maxed out in almost every game

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no

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even modern ones

real edge
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ill just get the 4070ti super unless the 4080super is like 900euro or something

umbral moss
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120 isn't 144 playdead

deep sapphire
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you know, thats so knit picky im not even gonna respond to it

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actually I will

real edge
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4090 can do 4k high fps fairly easily

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sometimes you may need dlss and such but you can

deep sapphire
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actually no i wont

real edge
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only games that wont are very badly optimized ones

umbral moss
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All modern ones lmao

real edge
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or cyberpunk 2077 with extreme path tracing

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or sth

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its a very good card

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but too expensive for me

deep sapphire
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I tried it out, it looks good with 3.5 but im sorry that game is so fuckin boring

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I hope going forward people can look at elden ring and see how an open world game can be fun

umbral moss
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All my builds are based around a 4090 but I'm not going to throw money at a card that's about to get blown away by the 50 series

real edge
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the new nvidia gpus will have the 12v6 updated connectors so I also have far less fear then

deep sapphire
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50 series still 9+ months out

umbral moss
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Yeah, so is my new pc lmao

real edge
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why would you update every gen

deep sapphire
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you will forever be chasing something better. if you need something now just buy something

umbral moss
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I dont

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My current pc has a 1080 titan in it

real edge
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then why care about next gen this early in the year

umbral moss
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Because I'll just buy the most powerful card when I actually start the build

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It makes no sense to pay the halo tax for something you won't get the longest tailing value from

real edge
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the most powerful cards are rarely worth the extra tax

umbral moss
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The extra frame buffer can be worth it because you get a little more life out of it

deep sapphire
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which is a fair argument, as stated its usually not a good value so why pay 1600+ bucks if something is gonna leap frog it

real edge
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the most cards with the biggest performance per dollar are always the xx70 series or the amd gpus

umbral moss
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Yeah, buying a halo card with less than a year left to next Gen is just pissing money away

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The 50 series will land in what, late 24?

deep sapphire
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50 series gonna move to 2nm supposedly

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yeah the 5090 will

umbral moss
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Plus chiplet design

deep sapphire
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5080/70 will come in early 2025

umbral moss
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So it's going to have a new node and new uarch and new layout

real edge
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if it moves to 2nm then we will see an increase in cost as well

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unless they do AMDs chiplet design to save costs

potent arrow
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Im not buying a gpu because I can see the 50 series being a huge difference

umbral moss
potent arrow
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Also chiplet design for other things then cost too

deep sapphire
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unless you buy a new generation card 6 months after its release window you will forever be chasing the dragon

umbral moss
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As far as I knew the 5090 got delayed because of the switch to chiplet

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
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im not gonna buy an iPhone 15 cause the iPhone 16 will come out in september

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😏

potent arrow
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We have hit the point where thermals, cost, performance, power and modularity are just hitting a wall at max speed

real edge
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I have had a 1070 for 6yrs now, its time to shelve this mighty warrior soon I think, its starting to lag behind quite a bit, would have lagged behind already a lot without FSR chiming in to give it some new life

potent arrow
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and those points can be easily addressed by chiplet design

umbral moss
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Nvidia tends to drag out their releases when they have no pressure, so a halo card will only start to fade out when games demand more frame buffer capacity than your card can handle

deep sapphire
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they have had a consistent 2 year release window for over a decade now

umbral moss
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Like there's nothing immediately wrong with the 4090 if my pc ate shit tomorrow, but if I'm going to invest $2500 in a new everything I may as well try to cram as much cutting edge hardware in there as I can

real edge
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I am not gonna wait for the 50 series, the only reason why I held out on the initial 40 release was terrible prices and specs for the 70 series GPUS

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and 80

potent arrow
umbral moss
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To be honest I only really play overwatch with my pc lmao

deep sapphire
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yeah but a year later and you are getting marginally better performance for the same price

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I literally cant say this enough

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if you have an old ass PC

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and you need something now

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just

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buy

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something

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its better than what you have

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by a metric ton

umbral moss
real edge
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even a 6650xt would be a big upgrade for me

umbral moss
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You can usually coast for wayyyy longer

deep sapphire
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okay but a 1070 is old as fuck

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I had one

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I get it

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they were great cards

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but shits almost 7 years old now

umbral moss
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Yeah, and the card I replaced was a 780 pogianger

real edge
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the fact that it somehow still manages to shit out 60fps at 1440p is a great achievement for how old the card is

deep sapphire
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eugh kepler

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or was that maxwell

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I dont remember

umbral moss
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I go lavish on pc builds because I do them so infrequently

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Mostly because I hate being in the guts of the stupid thing swapping parts and re testing everything

real edge
umbral moss
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So I do it once, cleanly, like once a decade

deep sapphire
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im gonna remember this, if you come in here saying you are gonna wait for the 50 series im gonna fly over there and kick you in the dick

real edge
deep sapphire
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maybe get a yuro as well

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those are tasty

potent arrow
real edge
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the new gpus will also have the 12v6 connectors which will increase my peace of mind by quite a lot

umbral moss
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Does amd generally refresh their boards with new cpu gen or are we stuck with these poopy first gen boards until am6

real edge
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they do refreshes

dire viper
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which boards are you talkin about

real edge
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but they support old boards as much as they can, if we go by am4

dire viper
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yea my B550 is kinda just chillin

real edge
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amd said they are sticking to am5 through 2025 as well

dire viper
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its good enough cause i dont do anything that requires a fancy board

umbral moss
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I'm mainly looking for a refresh on the asrock X670e board

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The tachi is like, OK, but could it be better?

real edge
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if you get an x670e board they will more than likely support it for as long as am5 stays relevant

umbral moss
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Yeah, I'm just looking for refreshes on the board functionality and power circuitry

dire viper
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i cant imagine paying more than 200 bucks for a mobo

umbral moss
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Could not care less about RGB disco fuckery

real edge
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unless they shit on customers now that they have leads over intel in performance and power consumption

dire viper
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what do you even need that mobo for

real edge
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but surely they know that they have to keep it up to keep the shares going up and take intels marketshare

umbral moss
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Intel launches a new socket on every cpu because fuck you

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And they rearrange the pins so they use the same footprint but not compatible pogianger

dire viper
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me when older intel CPU's are so cheap now they just are better value than newer ones by a land slide

real edge
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11400f

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be like

umbral moss
dire viper
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lmao

umbral moss
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The tachi is the cheapest board that has a 22 phase vrm setup

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It's basically the only thing on the board that's high end lmao

real edge
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what do you need that huge vrm for

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even on my b550 board its vrm is considered overkill at 12+4 lol

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22 sounds crazy

umbral moss
#

You get more stable current delivery so you're less likely to run into dumb vdroop issues

real edge
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never had that so far in 15years of using pcs

umbral moss
#

I think the tachi caps out at some shit like 175a to the socket

real edge
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so I dont think you have to worry about it too much as long as the vrm is good

umbral moss
#

That's usually why I look for the xxxtreme overclocking boards, because they don't use the cheap junk

real edge
#

those cost a lot more than what they are worth usually

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there are lower end boards with good vrms

umbral moss
#

That's the tachi, the other boards with similar vrm setups are like $800

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Tachi is only $499 and usually on a slight discount

real edge
#

500 on a motherboard???????????

umbral moss
#

Look at the other X670e board prices playdead

real edge
#

and here I thought paying 120euro for my b550 aorus elite v2 was kind of toasty for a board lol

umbral moss
#

As soon as you leave the b series the prices go ballistic

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And even the b series is mad expensive for am5

real edge
#

indeed

umbral moss
#

So yeah, $500 for an overengineered vrm setup is a steal considering the other products in the space

dire viper
#

bruh

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idk about that

real edge
#

but my point is, if my b550 board has overkill vrm 12+4 phases, then why would any more be needed am5

umbral moss
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I don't need my board to look like an anime girl or have a gun shaped heatsink on it

dire viper
#

my mobo was like 150

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ROG B550 F

real edge
#

12+4 was overkill for even the 5800X3D which slurps more power than the 7800X3D even

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22 seems nuts by comparison

umbral moss
dire viper
#

its not as crazy as intel

umbral moss
#

Isn't the 7900 non 3d almost 270w alone?

dire viper
#

even in independent testing

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Intel just be bullshit

real edge
#

arent there benchmarks showing the 7800x3d consume less power than the 5800x3d

umbral moss
#

Maybe clock for clock?

dire viper
#

maybe?

#

its more efficient

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fps per watt in gaming application is better on a 7800X3D

umbral moss
#

Who knows what the 8800x3d will do

dire viper
#

gamers nexus did a video cause somebody said that an Intel chip would beat anything AMD has in all work loads

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which uh

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they were wrong

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so wrong

real edge
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but you do upgrades very rarely

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so why care about the 8800x3d

dire viper
#

only Intel's older CPU's that are steals now are actually comparable to performance per watt

umbral moss
dire viper
#

are you overclocking or

umbral moss
#

The 8800 will probably be launched around the same time as the build being started

dire viper
#

ive never even seen my 5600X ever go full boost and I am running it uncapped atm

umbral moss
#

I usually force a fixed all core instead of letting the cpu throttle randomly

real edge
#

I haven't heard many rumors about the next line of CPUs from amd

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but I keep hearing rumors about blackwell

umbral moss
#

End of 2024 seems likely

dire viper
#

idk what ur saying sounds more like an issue for work situations

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cause mfs be running 7800X3D's on cheap ass boards no problem

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one of my friends has a 7800X3D and a 4080 on the cheapest board he could get lmao

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idk why

real edge
#

as someone that values money and shit lasting

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I would buy a half decent board with good vrm and such

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but anything further just seems outside of my budget and very extreme

dire viper
#

im more concerned about PSU's personally

real edge
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even for me that was paranoid about 40 series 12vhpwr connector

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me too

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but I see no reason to replace my 750HXi yet

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even if its 5-6ys old

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havent had problems

#

and I paid a lot for it

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and it was S rated for many years and still is

#

so I have faith

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that it will last me the next 4-5years

dire viper
#

ive been using the same gold rated PSU since I bought it

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I knew it was overkill but ive just kept it

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750 Watt gold rated EVGA one

real edge
#

but ngl hank we are a great tourist country, come here and I can take you to several nice places rynepat

night leaf
#

Hmmm. ponderpaissa Either to get me a hardware upgrade, or a proper gaming table.

paper tusk
umbral moss
#

I feel like I've destroyed too many psus to listen to tier lists

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Although the last one I destroyed was really my fault because I forgot to safe the atx before I started poking at the fan connectors inside the unit playdead

sly elk
#

tbh

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a good PSU should be able to easily last you 20 years lol

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if it has a 10 year warranty they're saying you have the right to be pissed off if it dies before the 10 year mark haha

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the only thing is capacitors do have a rated lifespan

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but when you look at old computers, the #1 killer is leaky CMOS batteries

dire viper
#

how tf do you kill a PSU

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just buy the ones that have been around for years with no issues

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when I bought mine, EVGA was just the champ

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which EVGA doesnt make PSU's anymore do they?

sly elk
#

at the height of capacitor plague, PSUs had a habit of dying after 5-10 years

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they still do

umbral moss
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They never made psus

sly elk
#

ok they never made a PSU but they definitely sell them

dire viper
#

yea they do

umbral moss
#

Some evga psus are made by superflower, which is a good company

dire viper
#

well whatever

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it says EVGA on it

sly elk
#

they are made by a few different OEMs

umbral moss
#

Corsair is the same

sly elk
#

they used to have a deal with superflower to sell their PSUs in the US

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that partnership ended

umbral moss
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They're an odm

dire viper
#

the 750 Watt Golds go crazy

sly elk
#

the G6 series is made by seasonic

umbral moss
#

The ax series is made by someone else but it's apparently engineered by some fucking time traveler from the year 3506

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The ax1600i is like 92% efficient at 1600w and atx 3.0 compliant concernedkeiko

sly elk
#

corsair, evga, and asus use platforms from superflower/seasonic/cmt/fsp and others

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but they aren't always exactly the same

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iirc both evga and corsair get custom designs with upgraded or extra stuff sometimes

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on the newer models, corsair uses their own fans

umbral moss
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I think the 1600i is the only thing that oem makes

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It's in a class entirely on its own

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Msi mpg is close but can't touch that sustained power delivery

dreamy chasm
#

@potent arrow They released a new traigun with a better bottom, I might nab it if they have an XL zoinks

dreamy chasm
#

probably based on availability

royal forge
#

Hmmmm

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do keycaps make an impact on the typing experience for a mkb?

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or are they usually just the same sensation

sly elk
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hehe

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i put my screenbar light on my monitor 😄

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now I understand why they include that plastic spacer thingy

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i still maintain these screenbar lights look dorky af

full shale
#

Does anyone happen to know/have opinions about the Asus ROG Flow Z13?

I'm looking at upgrading my laptop and it seems like it might be a good for my needs (work stuff and movie streaming mostly but occasionally getting on FFXIV to do cacpot and maybe seasonal event stuff while away from home)

The keyboard isn't an issue because I play console and use a controller when playing from my laptop at all

deep sapphire
#

whats the specs on it

full shale
#

This is the version I'm looking at

zealous wolf
#

am thinking of saving up for an RX 6650 XT or 6700 XT in the future at this point tbh

full shale
#

I may not purchase this exact one but it would be this one or the model with the 4080

zealous wolf
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though the 6700 xt may or may not have similar performance to a rtx 3070 ti or so

deep sapphire
royal forge
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hi hank

deep sapphire
#

hi aoi

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hows it going

royal forge
#

The usual

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my gundam box arrived dented

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a bit salty

deep sapphire
#

was the shipment insured

royal forge
#

gonna model some 3D boobs

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nah

#

its like

deep sapphire
royal forge
#

the usual standard shipping

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im a bit annoyed

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but

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the pieces are intact

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so i cant complain

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much

#

im also trying to figure out how the fuck do I use my keyboard extra keys to launch discord

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but ah well

full shale
#

I like to be able to push it when I need for as long as possible, my current laptop is the 2014 Alienware 13 that has started to wheeze anytime I do anything.

At this point of I'm deciding between a gaming unit or the Surface I know which is the better value

royal forge
#

Is there any particular reason to use a laptop?

deep sapphire
#

I've always found gaming laptops to not hold value because they always shit the bed after 1-2 years

royal forge
#

do you need it to be mobile?

royal forge
#

take it from me

#

fuck gaming laptops

deep sapphire
#

modern chips just run so damn hot they are always at like 80c LOL

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and with constant thermal cycling it just fucks them up plus people dont maintain them and the fans rev so damn high it just sucks in dust like nobody's business

wise jay
#

ya "gaming" laptops are going to run hotter than the average laptop with the same cooling as most laptops so they just cook themselves in a few short years

royal forge
#

and gaming laptops are either underpowered, skewed on specs (e.g. powerful CPU but shit GPU and vice versa) or just fucking heavy

deep sapphire
#

the CPUs are generally pretty good compared to desktop counterparts but GPUs yeah like a 4080 mobile is like a 4070 desktop and 4090 is a 4080 desktop

#

they have to downclock them significantly or they would run too damn hot

full shale
modest moss
#

I don't see how a laptop or a desktop would make any difference to MS Office

full shale
#

I thought you meant vs a tablet

latent ore
#

i use a legion 5i

sly elk
#

I would think long and hard about buying a microsoft surface lol

#

they look great but afaik getting support if it breaks is a pain in the ass

#

they used to have microsoft stores where you could get them replaced/fixed easily

golden stream
sly elk
#

OH FUCKING COME ON

#

i bought a fancy monoprice hdmi 2.1 cable

#

3080ti still only trying to drive my monitor at 59.99hz

muted spoke
#

change it in windows settings? it loves to default to ~60hz and not what the monitor's capable of

sly elk
#

nono in this case I think it's just a gpu limitation lol

#

the gpu has displayport 1.4, so same res at 60hz. but it supposedly can handle hdmi 2.1... supposedly...

#

Supports 4K 120Hz HDR, 8K 60Hz HDR and Variable Refresh Rate as specified in HDMI 2.1

#

it seems evga may have taken a "technically we support part of hdmi 2.1 but not all of it" approach 😄

vital axle
#

displayport should work at more than 60?

sly elk
#

it turns out you're correct

#

it does, but you have to convince nvidia control panel lol

#

turns out it defaults to 'aspect ratio' scaling and 'perform scaling on: display' which locks out 120hz

#

and disabling scaling and setting scaling to gpu lets you choose 120hz

#

now that alone sounds kinda funky

#

but after I did that, windows' display settings show 119.77hz as an option

#

whatever, it works. yay! this is a lot better than 60hz with that weird pulsing line shit

#

i can't see the pixel grid lines anymore

#

oh man using the screen with scaling turned off is niiice

#

XD

#

actually nv, I can still see the pixel grid when i move stuff xD

bitter girder
#

@sly elk it’s based guitar time

royal forge
#

Hmmm

#

might be a bit out of the usual question

#

I have a website where there are videos i would like to extract/download

#

these videos are locked behind a members login

#

How should I go about ripping the videos

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no its not porn

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it's a conference i attended that recorded the lectures

sly elk
#

well this looks deliciously unbalanced >>

sly elk
#

i'm sorry aoi I'm not sure.

latent ore
sly elk
#

I tried switching things around but I can't get the left screen off my desk for now (it's where the house cameras are displayed) Luckily, my desk is still big enough to fit both. xD

lost python
#

is that a height adjustable glass table

sly elk
#

yep!

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i built it a few years ago. 🙂 The bottom is a fully jarvis frame. I custom ordered the top from a glass company out here.

lost python
#

oh god

sly elk
#

-shrug- it is a very eccentric choice, I know 😄

lost python
#

its a very risky choice

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thats my main concern

sly elk
#

not really. I've had glass furniture for a very long time

wise jay
#

depending on the webpage Jdownloader2 might work

potent arrow
#

do it overnight while you sleep w/e

royal forge
dreamy chasm
#

I just found a cute taobao egg.. @potent arrow

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40 bucks for a 45g mouse

potent arrow
#

no way that doesn't have a million latency

dreamy chasm
#

Naur

potent arrow
#

naaaaaurr

dreamy chasm
#

It uses a Nordic MCU apparently

wraith agate
#

Ah yes the Nordic Marvel Cinematic Universe

dreamy chasm
#

reviews on this seem fine

#

the shape would probably work really well with me but idk if i can justify a mouse purchase atm 😭

odd sand
jaunty nacelle
signal fable
#

guys is it worth it at this price?

#

can't really find any GPU's for 1440p at decent price right now

deep sapphire
signal fable
#

Well here In Italy most GPU's cost 900 € so I'm just going to wait I guess

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Thx anyway for the suggestion

dire viper
#

oh god italian consumer electronics market

signal fable
dire viper
#

everything costs so much

deep sapphire
#

that or wait for the 4070TI Super to come out next monthj

signal fable
#

But I think people would buy that in like 2 seconds

#

I can only hope for a price reduction of the normal ti version

#

I could go with AMD but those GPU's don't have a lot of power efficiency

dire viper
#

erm

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nothing does right now at the higher end of things

signal fable
#

I know but I was still looking for something efficient for 1440p

#

I don't expect a 1440p card to go with the same power of a rtx 2060 or something like that

deep sapphire
#

nobody will convince me "they are better now" because they arent

#

and people who say otherwise are high on copium

signal fable
#

So they didn't really fix them?

deep sapphire
#

no, they still have issues with poor idle power draw

#

and most new games have more issues than nvidia because AMD takes 4 months to make a WHQL driver

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while nvidia pops them out every 3 weeks 😂

signal fable
#

I see

#

I thought they got better with the driver's

deep sapphire
#

WHQL is just a microsoft certified driver that was tested for reliability with multiple components and configurations

#

they are better but that mostly just stems from them taking 3 months to make a driver instead of monthly they did many years ago

dire viper
signal fable
#

I'm just going to game mostly

dire viper
#

lots of people daily them and quite a few people here do

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I have a friend whos never had problems with them but they dont have concerns about power draw

signal fable
#

I'm not the kinda guy that plays every new triple A game but I'm making an exception with dragon's dogma 2

dire viper
#

and he has like 3 PC's running AMD GPU's at this point, they did have issues previously but I havent heard many complaints about them having absolutely terrible problems

signal fable
#

But sadly I have to upgrade my pc

dire viper
#

cause half of them are meh

signal fable
dire viper
#

if you want a brand brand new CPU thats fair

signal fable
#

I wanted to get those 3D series CPUs

dire viper
#

otherwise intel is still the best bet for if you wanna get something that is unrivaled on a budget

signal fable
#

Probably the 7800X3D

dire viper
#

ye the 7800X3D is nuts

#

its efficiency is way higher than even the other AMD cpus and everything intel has

#

that being said it is a full on powerhouse CPU, so its gonna run itself at full bore under load

#

it just gets more mileage out of what it has

modest moss
#

You could just buy a 7800xt for like €600

#

That will be great for 1440p and has 16gb vram

dire viper
#

real

#

does the EU have a VAT on hardware?

#

id assume yes

#

cause europe moment

modest moss
#

Should be included in the Amazon price

sly elk
#

AMD likes making bang for the buck stuff

dire viper
#

god me having to read EU and UK import tariffs and taxes at my last job to figure out loop holes

sly elk
#

Intel and nvidia like making “I don’t care how much it costs, I want the best” stuff

dire viper
#

vintage car parts are exempted from UK VAT if you provide the right tax number

#

as well as the EU, but you have to be a registered business in the EU for that to count which costs a few thousand dollars and 6-12 months of waiting

dire viper
#

tbh the prices still feel inflated on nvidia products

#

they are doing crazy good rn

#

especially when they have an entire market cornered

deep sapphire
#

remember the 7900XTX cost the same as the 4080 at launch

#

with worse performance in raster and less features

#

AMD is trying to milk people too

#

back in the day when they made like the HD 4870 fuck yeah

#

got a card that was on par with the GTX 280 for 200 bucks less

snow cypress
#

The k8 pro came today. Wish the cable they provided was a bit longer though lol

inland mauve
#

damn that looks nice

snow cypress
#

Feels great too

inland mauve
#

mechanical?

potent arrow
#

yep

#

I WILL CONTINUE TO AHILP KEYCHRON

#

I WILL NEVER STOP SHILLING KEYCHRON

snow cypress
#

Gateron g pro brown switches also (dont know if their the best)

potent arrow
#

they are pretty aight

snow cypress
#

Now i have the sudden urge to buy hundreds of keycaps

dire viper
#

wheres the numpad

#

where is the numpad

snow cypress
#

Eradicated

potent arrow
sly elk
#

Your argument is crap

deep sapphire
#

Huh

sly elk
#

Yea if you can get a 4080bgqt 8t

#

Get it

#

But those are not cheap

deep sapphire
#

Is your keyboard crapping out

sly elk
#

Phone

#

Im talking about stuff under 500 Hicks

#

Bucks

#

Sonofabitch

deep sapphire
#

How many drinks have you had

#

😂

potent arrow
#

2

sly elk
#

My keyboard is being woky

#

Woky haha

deep sapphire
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Is this true @modest moss

modest moss
#

they're pretty good, ngl

#

they used to be even better but they made them a bit healthier

dreamy chasm
sly elk
#

hank be like GPUs don't exist under the 4080

#

what's a 4080 cost anyway

#

it's the cheapest one on amazon

#

so amd isn't a value brand anymroe because nvidia sells a 4080 for $1000?

#

buut there's so many options in amd land

#

6950xt for 659, 7900xt for abut $740-750

#

you can still find 6700xt for like 350 lol

deep sapphire
#

I said when the 7900XTX first came out

#

AMD was clearly trying to take advantage of the bullshit pricing nvidia was doing

#

if AMD cared to be a value oriented brand they wouldnt have priced any of their GPUs close to nvidia's because it clearly didnt work when their adoption rate is among the lowest in the history of the brand lol

sly elk
#

they also always seem to be "just a little bit off"

#

and whenever a craze like gpu mining takes off and makes theri GPUs hyper valuable

#

they're total dicks about it

#

in that sense, I think AMD's business team is even worse than nvidia's

deep sapphire
#

iirc at least in the 6000 series they were only able to allocate enough wafers and for obvious reasons they wanted to do that for the CPUs so the 6000 series in general was low production and hard to get

#

the 7000 series not so much but hell I remember earlier in the year around june it got so bad AMD only had 10 percent marketshare on the steam hardware surveys

#

10+ years ago AMD typically had 30-40 percent

#

so something needs to change if Radeon wants to stay competitive

sly elk
#

idk what amd's business strategy is lol

deep sapphire
#

AMD just needs to make a GPU thats just flat out faster than nvidia, this whole "its almost as fast" shit they have been pulling for the last 15 years isnt working anymore.

#

remember the HD 5870?

#

that was a legendary moment for the brand

#

they finally had a flagship generation and they sold well

sly elk
#

yea

#

i'm not sure what they're doing

#

I do imagine, that if they DID launch a faster GPU

#

they'd charge more than nvidia does for their flagship lmao

deep sapphire
#

I think it would bring a lot more respect for the brand but the rumors are saying they arent even gonna bother making enthusiast class GPUs anymore which I dunno

odd sand
#

Probably bc they can't outspend Nvidia on R&D, and even if they could come close, RTX is the most supported so they would still probably "lose"

deep sapphire
#

thats true

#

especially now

dire viper
#

the thing I hate the most is the actual sellout reviewers just going hard "it has ray tracing that works therefore better" 😭

#

I aint running ray tracing to get 60fps on a monitor that supports 144 even in slower paced games, shit hurts my eyes to not be at high fps

#

especially the dips

sly elk
#

BUT NVIDIA IS THE WAY IT WAS MEANT TO BE PLAYED

dire viper
#

lmao

sly elk
#

also: CUDA

#

BUT MOM I NEED THE 4080 BECAUSE IT HAS CUDA

dire viper
#

I wonder how much it costs to put the ray tracing cores on the GPU and design the 3rd party stuff around it

#

the only people ive seen be able to just use ray tracing in every game they play is my friend with a 7800X3D and a 4080

sly elk
#

ya know there was a time I pondered if apple should buy amd

#

that was a long time ago

dire viper
#

they can run cyberpunk at 240fps at all ultra without upscaling

deep sapphire
#

respect to nvidia though they were focused on their vision and CUDA paid off

dire viper
#

da raytracing

deep sapphire
#

what good did OpenCL do

dire viper
#

guys its raytracing

deep sapphire
dire viper
#

this new epic thing in gaming that wont be a main stay for another decade cause nobody can afford new pc's

sly elk
deep sapphire
#

Richard Stallman knows

odd sand
#

You won't need a car if you have an RTX 6090 tho

#

You can render your own car

dire viper
#

the car is more useful than the 6090

#

cause I get enjoyment out of it more often than not

deep sapphire
#

remember this classic

#

ITS TOO LATE WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO!!!!

#

ITS RUINED!!!!

dire viper
#

According to NVIDIA, 83 percent of users running on RTX 40 series graphics cards enabled RT, and 79 percent enabled DLSS. On the RTX 30 series, 56 percent of users enable ray tracing and 71 percent enabled DLSS.

#

bro idk how people use ray tracing on anything that isnt a 3080 and up

#

that shit chugs even with DLSS on

deep sapphire
#

40 series handls ray tracing almost 2x faster than the 30 series

dire viper
#

real

deep sapphire
#

im sure eventually it would be a minimal performance impact

dire viper
#

in decades

#

maybe millennia even

royal forge
deep sapphire
#

okay I'll put in some extra shifts just for you

royal forge
#

Damn nice

sly elk
#

i think the battery in my viper ultimate is le dead

#

mm bought that 2/10/22

sly elk
#

lmao tabloTV fails again

#

tried installing it on my bro's new amazon fire tablet. It shows up in amazon's app store. great!... nope. There's only sound, video is just a black screen. And it's a known issue with no intent to fix it haha

snow cypress
#

Is Gunmjo a good brand for coiled usb c cables?

paper tusk
#

it looks like any other chinese word salad brand (so it should be ok for what it's worth)

dreamy chasm
#

It's just a standard 3 pin battery you can replace

#

If it isn't in warranty anymore I'd just look into opening it up yourself

royal forge
#

Where this?

sly elk
#

the schematic is amazing

deep sapphire
#

it really is incredible engineering

sly elk
#

i wanna see the original development diagrams XD

#

I bet those are fuunnn to look at

#

man it's pretty funny how amazon fire tablets work

#

$139 for a fantastic 10" computer that can do a lot of things out of the box... but a frustrating number of things just aren't allowed because the vendor would prefer you didn't haha

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there's a number of android apps that will in fact run on these, but the amazon appstore lists them as "unavailable" haha

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and sadly, a lot of companies don't host APK downloads

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surprisingly, you can't just download a firefox apk. wtf?

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if you do the email link thing, it just gives you apple/google app store links haha

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yea wtf mozilla

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this legit bothers me

sly elk
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luckily, while amazon does put their finger on the scale, it is still pretty easy to just install google play stuff and then install things that way 😄

sly elk
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also why does google make family sharing so janky lol

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normally i complain about such things in apple land 😄

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try to add my bro and find out that google workspace accounts don't work with family sharing 😄

void dove
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makes sense, google workspace is meant for company use.
allowing family sharing just opens up a whole can of worms there.

royal forge
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purty

sly elk
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I have a weird use case 😄

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too bad they couldn't just make a setting for that

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Allow family sharing on user accounts (disabled by default) 😄

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there as a time when google apps had a 'personal use' case

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companies hate this and generally don't allow it

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but there's a use case for something like a 'microsoft domain for family use' where you admin your family's computers lol

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but most companies are scared to death to allow such a system

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several companies I can think of (google at least) make it so you can't create a parental controls setup with another account unless you lie about the age of the owner 😄

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also lmao android doesn't understand exfat?!

void dove
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it should

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to my knowledge

sly elk
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apparently not the kindle fire version of android hahaha

void dove
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well if you need a cross compatible format for a large drive

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get fat32format

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and just format it as fat32

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it can support large drives, just windows doesn't allow fat32 to be formatted over a certain size

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despite the spec allowing it

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so need a 3rd party tool

sly elk
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lol this was fun

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it also doesn't like doing usb file transfer mode with a mac . gg

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so i put the stuff on a usb ssd and tossed it across, luckily it has a usb-c port like any proper computer should

void dove
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fat32 spec caps out at 2TB for standard cluster size, of 512b

sly elk
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even one running a janky OS 😄

void dove
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or 16TB for 4k

sly elk
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hmm nope it won't do it with my phone either. gg.

potent arrow
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kyanche

void dove
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huh, very odd

potent arrow
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is this aerospace safe

sly elk
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hmm?

potent arrow
sly elk
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LOL

potent arrow
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I'm marveling in my hack job

sly elk
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epoxy?! PFT

potent arrow
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hot glue!

sly elk
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-gets out a roll of kapton tape-

potent arrow
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I'm at the parents house, I don't have many tools

sly elk
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-wraps the bodged cable together-

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there. perfect.

potent arrow
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hot glue, soldering iron, flux and multimeter is about what I got

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client wanted PC to boot in an hour and I was done deal

sly elk
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lol jk, a proper wire harness would never use that, they're real sticklers about heatshrink and insulation and connector types

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and things like outgassing

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if you have optical sensors you can't have them developing a stupid film over them because you used cheap heatshrink that outgasses

potent arrow
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kek no dollaram heat shrink?

sly elk
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debating what i should have for my final dinner of 2023

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lol it sounds all ominous

potent arrow
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I had church leftovers lol

dreamy chasm
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Sarah

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Am I fucking up by getting a tlc ssd as a scratch drive for recording

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Actually, which island are you on rn

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Ahh.

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Mhm

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I've just been stuck on my island

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Haven't had the energy to travel in a long while..

modest moss
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I wish we could do a proper survey of the regulars

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I swear we have a disproportianately high ratio of Filipinos

dreamy chasm
modest moss
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Ice go to bed

inland mauve
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that shit is not cooked

golden stream
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seems rn phones don't understand exfat, yes I tested w my mSD cards, exFAT format, no read
camera, same
samsung btw but idk about other phones, seems android universally

sharp star
neon shell
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I thought those were fucking cookies lol. Somehow my brain just completely ignored the rice

neon shell