The 90s were a simpler time...
#technology-discussion
odd sand
real edge
just have to get a 12vhpwr to 8-pin cable from corsair
sly elk
I kept having crashy issues with the evga 750w
real edge
30 series have bad transients
real edge
mhm
30 series are very power hungry
and have bad transients
750w was not enough which is dumb
sly elk
as you can see on the cultists list, the evga 750 g3 is a Tier A unit lol 😄
yep the funny thing is, when I asked evga about it they said the same thing
odd sand
I think 850 is rec for 3080ti is why
sly elk
they were like: "try changing this windows registry setting because the default causes black screens sometimes... and get a better PSU"
sly elk
and for whatever it's worth, I'm very happy with that rm1000x. I went with the refreshed model that uses a maglev fan
and I got a last-gen braided cable kit from amazon for like $25
real edge
if I need to swap(most likely not looking at 40 series power draw)
ill go with some atx 3.0 1000w psu
sly elk
actually still a deal
I think there may or may not have been some incompatible cables but all the ones I needed were compatible
bitter girder
Yeah I’m pretty sure type 2 and type 3 are actually compatible
sly elk
I like evga and corsair because they have nice braided cable options
without having to go 3rd party. third party is just expensive
real edge
I just hope my PSU has not degraded enough to where I would need to swap it, but new GPUs use 280w-320w at most, if even that, theres plenty of headroom
sly elk
hehe
real edge
Yeah I’m pretty sure type 2 and type 3 are actually compatible
type 4 is compatible with mine
bitter girder
O oh
sly elk
honestly I wanted an HX1000i, but at the time they were only making the 1500i and I thought it was ridiculously overpriced and overkill
real edge
and corsair makes them luckily
sly elk
even if I think the hxi is probably the best psu
now, the best looking PSU is not a corsair.
bitter girder
Fuck tbh I’m somewhat amazed that my system runs off 650ws fine
And I’ve got a 7900xt
sly elk
https://www.amazon.com/quiet-Titanium-Regulation-Individually-BN501/dp/B0C6FY4JXF
I think this is the best looking PSU haha
bitter girder
Dude yes
sly elk
real edge
corsair site says type 4 PCIe
sly elk
it looks so good
honestly it's got more style than most PC cases do
but it's way way way too expensive lmao
real edge
seems about right
sly elk
^ ugh, this was one thing I didn't love about the corsair PSU cable situation
I appreciate it though
type 2/3/4 depends on which cable instead of which PSU model
so you get that lovely table telling you which cables work with your PSU 😄
and it's like "type 3 VGA cables and type 4 CPU cables" or whatever
real edge
https://www.skroutz.gr/s/40515242/Corsair-Premium-Individually-Sleeved-8-Pin-PCI...
yeah so this would work with my current psu according to that table
sly elk
doesn't corsair make such a cable?
oh you want one from another country
-chuckle- I was going to say that I like corsair as a brand I can trust to make stuff that generally isn't crap, but then I remembered about their headsets 😄
real edge
that is a corsair cable
sly elk
and if you go to a mechanical keyboard discord or /r/mechanicalkeyboards and say you're thinking about buying a corsair Ksomething HAHAHHAAHHA
violet python
Guess I'm sticking with fractal ion 650w 80+ gold then
Be quiet and rmx is far more expensive
odd sand
As with most things since covid shortages, PSU prices have been up a lot since then
Used to be able to get a decent PSU for like $80 or so maybe, $100 was really splurging. Now it's all like $120-150 sometimes more
sly elk
yeaaa
real edge
Guess I'm sticking with fractal ion 650w 80+ gold then
Be quiet and rmx is far ...
yeah but with the cheap PSU you run a far bigger risk of something blowing up or having weird problems
expensive is expensive for a reason, PSU-wise
violet python
yeah but with the cheap PSU you run a far bigger risk of something blowing up or...
But that fractal ion is in tier A 😶
real edge
ohh oops
ive never heard of fractal PSUs before so I assumed the worst lol
must be a local pricing thing then
my bad
sly elk
yea, there might also be other brands available there that are good (and not sold here) -shrug-
violet python
yea, there might also be other brands available there that are good (and not sol...
Might need to Research more for that but for now gonna set target for that fractal design ion
royal forge
@deep sapphire Hank, i tried checking out the system log for the router
nothing shows up
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016> Hank, i tried checking out the system log for the router
what your DHCP shit set at
royal forge
DHCP filtering is disabled
its ok
the technicians are coming tomorrow
so i'll break their balls over it
bitter girder
@sly elk I return with more noise https://youtu.be/zlZJksPRyo8?si=C3y0RJ8q08LZ0HXV
manic lintel
huh... haven't listened to anything like that in a long while
...and I recently found my old Cradle of Filth and Moonspell CDs
bitter girder
Classiicccc
sly elk
OH it's metal isn't it
(I haven't clicked it)
i was gonna say I need to learn how to make those noises but then I remembered it's pedals lol
i don't have pedals just my guitar and an orange crush amp 😄
but I do have a computer interface so I could probably make something silly in garageband or something
bitter girder
Silly noise fun
glossy ravine
Going to finally meet my internet friend half way to have lunch with them and give them their computer. 
potent arrow
stahp
real edge
rumored to be 1000$
real edge
im glad they are releasing something with a half decent vram amount at a lower price point personally
literally only reason I did not upgrade
shit vram
rumored performance
4080super: 5-9% better.
4070ti super: about 10% better, but 4gb more vram, bigger bus.
4070 super: A bit lower than the current 4070ti.
depending on EU pricing I will go for a 4080super or 4070ti super
and performance
it will be a massive upgrade most likely
most modern GPUs literally get 4 times the FPS of my card
and ill be able to see how ray tracing looks like to see if its worth anything lul
lost python
depending on EU pricing I will go for a 4080super or 4070ti super
as usual, it will be about 15-20% above msrp
lost python
because they have been out for a while already
celest violet
Anybody ever messed around with the nobara Linux distro
inland mauve
I cranked up the digital vibrance on my main screen through the Nvidia control panel and it makes the colours pop so much
maybe a bit too much
it doesn't look realistic anymore but man does it pop
graceful pine
I always have the vibrance in their maxed out
glossy ravine
Computer has been delivered! They really like it. Thanks for all of yall's help with the build ❤️
violet python
@lost python sorry for suddenly tagging
But i forgot to ask
Hows recording in ffxiv when using amd? Specificly on 6000 if you happen to know 🤔
Cause km recording sometime when raiding to review my own gameplay (not streaming) but maybe screen share in discord
lost python
AMD has their own recording software like Nvidia has with shadow play.
Usually works alright for me.
Alternatively you can just use OBS via CPU like many others do and that's fine too
violet python
AMD has their own recording software like Nvidia has with shadow play.
Usually ...
Whats obs btw? 😶
lost python
Open broadcaster software
violet python
My friend used 6600 xt before and he said its somehow kinda bad to recording in ffxiv but ok in other games
So i thought im gonna ask here to verify 😅
violet python
Open broadcaster software
Ohhhh using 3rd party app
lost python
Gotta pick proper settings in the AMD software and it's fine
violet python
Gotta pick proper settings in the AMD software and it's fine
Got it
Cause i don't really wanna go for 4060 ... If i really needed to might going into 3060 12gb if u say its bad 😆
lost python
Only issue I ever had was when recording VR but that got fixed in a driver update 
violet python
Only issue I ever had was when recording VR but that got fixed in a driver updat...
I see
Thanks for the help XD
kind rune
4080super: 5-9% better.
4070ti super: about 10% better, but 4gb more vram, bigg...
4070 ti super is crazy
what is going on with these names
sly elk
who said the price point would be lower? :3
kind rune
a gamestop graphics card 
paper tusk
that's a good deal but I can't say the card itself (4080) is that good
hopefully the cooler is designed to not kill itself from board flex
also hopefully it's not in prep for the worst kept secret (super refresh)
sly elk
hmm i need to figure out how to get my phone's inner screen protector replcaed lol
it's getting worse
deep sapphire
https://www.gamestop.com/pc-gaming/pc-components/graphics-cards/products/msi-nvi...
this just confirms the rumors
companies offloading old 4080 inventory to make room for 4080S
lmao look at this scam
2600 dollars for a 4090
oh my god
LMAO
1.0 out of 5 stars Sold as new was USED and BROKEN
Reviewed in the United States on December 10, 2023
Verified Purchase
Ordered this card at $1k markup since no one had in stock. Well, it got here and it was an open box... That was not enough, the card inside the open box was cracked....
modest moss
doubt it was sold by amazon though
jaunty nacelle
cheaper to take the L on an occasional order
deep sapphire
and one hands it
wraith agate
Imagine being a Utah native unironically
dire viper
how would that even be ironic
I get to be a cowboy sometimes so its nice
aka I show boomers how to shoot guns cause I have mental illness and know how to operate lots of exotic guns
cunning sandal
who here's a fan of technology?
sly walrus
deep sapphire
who here's a fan of technology?
Not me
sly elk
ahh you wanna go back to having to find a pay phone
and mailing checks to pay your bills?
and then there's that day in the month where the bank sends you back all the checks you wrote
i forgot what they called that, but when you wrote a check and it was processed and paid out, the bank was supposed to mail you back the redeemed check as a sort of receipt
odd sand
I don't think this quite counts as a laptop, considering they basically slapped a screen and keyboard on top of a 1U server rack 
sly elk
blaaa
i went to file a claim on the screen protector on my fold4 coming off
options were mail in and wait, go to ubreakifix, or have them send a replacement
their page said they were out of replacements
royal forge
Ughhhhhh
The telco sent some people over
They reset the modem
It worked THEN
It red lighted after
Justtttt
Ughhhhhh
bitter girder
dire viper
deep sapphire
https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-ltg-steam-steamapps-common-gif-1194440719823...
Omfg
deep sapphire
modest moss
lost python
Change the fire to the Nvidia card since they somehow catch fire with each generation
vestal crane
Where intel
sly elk
yeaaa
deep sapphire
Where intel
car wouldnt start this morning
vestal crane
minor hollow
AMD is no driver, goes slow
Intel failure to launch
Nvidia fast but on fire
Literally
wise jay
AMD will cook itself doing nothing too
dire viper
AMD is mostly fine now
I know quite a few people who have been running them for a while
now they dont have issues with em
also NVIDIA remains way overpriced
especially when half their SKU's belong in a garbage bin
latent grotto
its been mostly fine except for that one week where the drivers caused system freezes
dire viper
ye
latent grotto
also amd wouldn't auto update to the latest version
and i had to manually do it
from the website
deep sapphire
AMD users say this literally every generation
yet it has historic low adoption rate
nvidia users listen to this
cause it just works
deep sapphire
yes consumerism has killed the market, the market that needs consumers to buy stuff
deep sapphire
SPACE
deep sapphire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbuPdt2vY0c
@modest moss did you own this on casette tape back in the day
modest moss
no but I definitely taped some of their songs off the radio
deep sapphire
thats the spirit
modest moss
time flies
sly elk
ya know
instead of buying that galaxy fodl last year i should've just gotten a new iphone
odd sand
iphone 
sly elk
Well maybe a galaxy s23u extreme flex active edition
dire viper
mfs in the most annoying people discord
golden stream
Ew iphone
My bosses keep nagging me why I don't use iphone
Sir, maam, it doesn't have stylus, succ it
sly elk
i do like that on the fold
many years ago I had a note where you could do that, but i felt the screen was too small for it
deep sapphire
heres why I like the iPhone
it just works
just like nvidia
it just works
I like things
that just work
sly elk
tbh
deep sapphire
though I think iOS is becoming more and more bloated
sly elk
my experience with iphones has not been exceptionally better than my experience with android phones
in some ways I feel like iOS pisses me off more
and I say that as a dude who loves apple stuff lol
deep sapphire
I've had, 85 percent positive experience with iPhones, the only annoyance I had was with the intel modems in some of the 7/8/X/XS models
they were awful in low signal conditions
sly elk
it's like
they want you to use the iphone one specific way, and if you deviate from that, the experience can be miserable at times
deep sapphire
it has enough freedom where it doesnt feel that bogged down tbh
sly elk
i wonder how that's working out with iphone 15 pro users and taking huge 4k videos
deep sapphire
people act like its this super strict walled garden it really isnt
sly elk
getting those fucking videos directly off the phone without icloud
deep sapphire
maybe 5-6 years ago
sly elk
and without icloud bitching and whining about running out of space
which it will rather instantly if you're recording raw 4k
deep sapphire
4K raw
sly elk
the problem is you can use other services but they still aren't good at it
they've tried a lot
deep sapphire
thats a pretty niche example
sly elk
like ios 17 fixed a lot of issues with using spotify instead of apple music or whatever
but if you decide to use a cloud service other than icloud, your phone is still gonna fill up and then complain that you need to upgrade your icloud plan
i also still hate the way ios and watchos do updates
it's persistent but annoying
deep sapphire
yeah thats fair it bugs you pretty often
sly elk
iirc because it can't be done fully automatically because it just breaks things
like once an update is installed and your phone restarts
deep sapphire
the thing that cracks me up though, people act like android isnt some google ecosystem bullshit
they are both terrible at it
sly elk
there's no guarantee you'll get phone calls or your alarm clock will work until you've unlocked the phone and stuff
deep sapphire
sure you can sideload apps but they dont make that easy unless you know what you are doing
sly elk
the thing that cracks me up though, people act like android isnt some google eco...
I say this with both sitting on my desk: It's not as bad.
deep sapphire
and carriers put bloated shit on their phones
odd sand
Yeah when I got my mom her iphone Xr I tried for a long time before realizing I literally couldn't access the filesystem to like, copy pictures off etc
sly elk
i've been using outlook and onedrive on my android phone and it's smooth
i have google cloud syncing turned off
totally smooth, no issues
odd sand
I had to look at them in like the apple photo app and they wanted like an apple program on your PC to download them etc.
Which of course required an icloud account and logging into it etc.
sly elk
oh yea and once it does
sly elk
anything other than an iphone 15 pro will only transfer at usb 2.0 speeds lol
and the icloud stuff in windows is gaaaaarbage
the icloud stuff on macos is terrible, too
idk how it's so bad
damn near 20 years ago, google bought a company called picasa and made an app like iphoto
deep sapphire
its just very basic, like I think the sync functionality in iOS is good and seamless but to do anything management its like fuckin hell
sly elk
it had smooth af cloud syncing and was hella fast
somehow, 20 years later, apple's cloud sync experience is still buggy, SLOW AS FUUUUUCK
and inconvenient
deep sapphire
I remember picasa
sly elk
like if you get a new mac and have a 1tb photo/video library and want icloud to download it all to your new mac
that will literally take >1 month
because icloud will trickle it down to your computer
I think they do it that way intentionally to keep you from canceling your account lol
deep sapphire
if you have a mac why not just use another cloud storage
iOS sure but macOS isnt that tied down
sly elk
i do use onedrive because I got 5 years of it real cheap lol
but I have icloud too because
deep sapphire
I think another annoying thing about iOS is they are very cryptic about things
sly elk
it gets frustrating dealing with my family's iphones and macs being passive aggressive about not having enough icloud storage
deep sapphire
like 3D touch, nobody ever used it because they never made it obvious of what it did
and im still salty they got rid of it
sly elk
meh that's just mobile in general
deep sapphire
I just cant relate tbh, I've never had much storage on my phones and its never once bothered me about anything
sly elk
also it's funny as hell when you run into a company that totally phoned in the android version of their app. i see it a lot with mobile ordering and fast food places
deep sapphire
but I dont shoot 4K video raw
sly elk
iphone app: actually an app, has apple wallet integration, accepts apple pay.
android app: doesn't do any of that and it's just a crappy webapp
deep sapphire
is google pay still a thing
sly elk
also yea there's a lot of implicit stuff
like when I bring up the cvs/walgreens/riteaid card at the register on my watch and the cashier (who also has an apple watch) is surprised you can do that
though last time I did that at walgreens my watch crashed 😄 and restarted xD
i've never had that happen before
like I had the wallet thing open with my walgreens card and then the watch went black and showed the little spinning wheel and was completely dead for 5 mins, then it went back to normal
gg apple "it just works" lol
also, apple's "disk utility" doesn't work
odd sand
I don't see the point in having a smart watch for everyday use. Just another thing to fuck up and have to mess with when I can do the same thing pulling my phone out for a moment
sly elk
if you want to do pretty much anything to a disk you need to use the diskutil command in a terminal window
odd sand
Also means you need BT or Wifi always on on the phone burning its battery as well for the phone to operate right?
sly elk
it used to be somewhat usable but now it's straight up useless lmao
deep sapphire
I hear they are nice when working out but yeah its never really hindered me I carry my phone with me on the gym floor
sly elk
the ecg feature was a big deal to me, for a while
i friggin love the snoopy watchface animations
the mickey mouse one is great as well....
apple pay on the watch feels alot more convenient than it does on the phone, partially because I don't have to pull the phone out. It's also always 'unlocked' when it's on my wrist so I don't have to enter my passcode
and the watch "tapping" my wrist when I get a phone call is a lot lot more noticable than vibrating in my pocket
using it to take a phone call when i don't have my phone on me and I'm walking back to my desk is nice too xD
err anyway, yea, I can find fault with any platform -_- probably makes me sound even more insufferable than usual huh xD sorry
austere socket
I like having a fitbit for telling time / date / day of the week, and setting timers
but idk if I'd use anything more complex than that on a smartwatch
I guess music to my earbuds if they support that
the UI for anything else would just be annoying compared to unlocking my phone
lost python
here i fixed it
deep sapphire
Lmao
lost python
intel gpus. forgotten but not gone 
lost python
but tbf, at least intel made progress with their drivers and performance
sly elk
-shruuug-
nvidia one on fire is correct though 😄
as mcuh as people make fun of amd for being on fire
I remember the 10 series nvidia having some issues with VRMs going ka boom
remember the evga stuff
lost python
I remember the 10 series nvidia having some issues with VRMs going ka boom
every time a new generation comes out, you hear about nvidia cards catching fire
bitter girder
everytime i hear a new nvidia card come out i just go to sleep
violet python
Curious aside...
If building from 0 and no planning to buy used gpu
And doing some recording and light streaming / screen share on discord...
Does 3060 12gb better than 4060 or the other way around?
real edge
does not matter
nvidia is better for streaming than AMD
but which nvidia does not matter
lost python
if you plan to stream via gpu and not cpu yes
real edge
im not sure what discord uses
lost python
id still pick a 3060 over a 4060 unless the 3060 is somehow more expensive
lost python
im not sure what discord uses
cpu iirc
violet python
id still pick a 3060 over a 4060 unless the 3060 is somehow more expensive
If same prices?
violet python
if you plan to stream via gpu and not cpu yes
May i ask for explanation cause im still blind at this particular topic 😶
violet python
but which nvidia does not matter
Doesn't 8gb almost become not enough? For some game now...
lost python
May i ask for explanation cause im still blind at this particular topic 😶
4060 is just ass and in many cases slower than the 3060, because it has incredibly slow memory. unless you can get one for like 200-250, its just not worth the money
violet python
4060 is just ass and in many cases slower than the 3060, because it has incredib...
Sorry im late too focus on watching anime...
Unfortunately the same price with 3060 As of now
violet python
12 gbs of vram is better than 8 in this day and age
What about the review that shows its faster than 12gb 3060?
Its... A lie?
real edge
just get the AMD card instead of messing with nvidia cards at your budget
odd sand
I like having a fitbit for telling time / date / day of the week, and setting ti...
My Casio digital watch from 30 years ago could do that tho lol
Almost all of the watches need Internet from your phone still don't they?
The one watch I would get is like a Suunto for hiking with gps and the maps on it
Bc it's not practical to have your phone out hiking, although I guess you could wear it on your arm with a jogging strap like it was a Pipboy lmao
cold yacht
Pretty much smart watches is pretty much making you take out your phone less
odd sand
Sure, but it's something else to charge and carry around. Obviously some ppl like them so it's whatever, but I'd personally just buy a normal watch if I went back to them again
cold yacht
I thought about it getting a used Apple Watch
Mainly for the sensors and tracking my heart rate while working out
minor hollow
Almost all of the watches need Internet from your phone still don't they?
yeah smart watches are basically a second interface for your phone
the one thing i do like about smart watches is many of them can do music independently of the phone
when i go to the gym i just switch my bluetooth earbuds from my phone to my watch and i can walk around with empty pockets
just towel, water bottle, done
odd sand
Depending on the size of the gym, you could simply put your phone in a central location since BT has a range of like 50m heh
minor hollow
Depending on the size of the gym, you could simply put your phone in a central l...
then you can't control it
odd sand
My Anker earbuds do play pause and next track at least. My Sony headphones will do back and forwards
bitter girder
We really went from November to December in 1 month huh
minor hollow
My Anker earbuds do play pause and next track at least. My Sony headphones will ...
forward and back?
odd sand
I have sony BT headphones that have gesture controls on the sides of them. So you swipe forward or back for tracks, up down for volume controls. Hold for temp removal of the noise cancelling, tap for pause etc.
minor hollow
well i also dont' trust gym people to not steal my phone, and lockers are in the restroom
odd sand
Otherwise they have stuff like this, but of course you will feel it on your arm
minor hollow
not my current gym, but at one i used to go to next to where i used to live, i had to drive a friend home who had come to swim
because someone somehow got a pair of bolt cutters in and hit 10 lockers in a few minutes
odd sand
I assume there were no cameras?
minor hollow
locker room? no
cold yacht
Usually lockers are in changing rooms or restrooms
odd sand
I suppose yeah if it's an area you get nekkid then
minor hollow
i knew the employees there too, they were overworked but i saw them regularly doing walkthroughs at the bathrooms
i'm guessing it was no more than a 5 minute window
odd sand
Video would be NG but maybe audio so you could hear the breaking locks heh
odd sand
Wait what?? When did this happen...
Apparently the commercial van segment in the US is now dead.
I feel like the Dodge Sprinter, Mercedes Benz Metris, Nissan NV200 etc. were everywhere and also popular for van-life folks
They've all been discontinued
minor hollow
Its all transits now
odd sand
It all feels fabricated by automakers to push higher margins
Cancel the small trucks, cancel the small vans. Push them all into enormous boats for $100k that cost them $30k to build
umbral moss
Nailed it in one
As cafe standards start to phase in, car companies are just prioritizing the vehicle classes that don't have fuel efficiency requirements
So they win twice, they don't have to comply with emissions/fuel efficiency regulations and they get to sell higher margin platforms
sly elk
Cancel the small trucks, cancel the small vans. Push them all into enormous boat...
Also they put a giant screen in the dashboard
And there, 100k truck that costs 30k to make
odd sand
And people are stupid so they fall for it
dire viper
I mean
small trucks is an incredibly affordable market
and its also a very profitable one
the only reason the Ford Maverick gets to exist is cause Ford put all their youngest engineers in a think tank of what buyers want/would reasonably need
and a truck that starts at 20k, is unibody, and gets good gas mileage is a seller
its also made up of lots of recycled composites, as well has more usability day to day than most "utilitarian" cars
they purposely made big ass bottle holders in the door so you could pop in your oversized metal water bottle
odd sand
Wow, when did so many automakers start offering AWD options for sedans?
Kia Stinger AWD/K5 AWD, Acura TLX AWD, Subaru Legacy/Imprezza/WRX/Solterra, Ford Mach-E, Nissan Altima AWD, Toyota Prius/Corolla/Camry, All Volvo sedans can have AWD powertrain, etc.
dire viper
cause
AWD sells
people dont understand when to use AWD
so they just buy cars with it
imagine getting AWD in california or something 😭
odd sand
Well it came up bc someone said they wanted a sedan but "had to buy an SUV bc I needed AWD for winters"
dire viper
you dont even need it off road
dire viper
Well it came up bc someone said they wanted a sedan but "had to buy an SUV bc I ...
huh
they dont know about the brand that is famous for AWD
the first company to ever offer AWD on a consumer car?
Subaru?
lmao?
odd sand
I assume they basically didn't look, or only have a local Chevy or Honda dealer or something
dire viper
or they just dont know anything
they probably will get stuck in snow and not understand that you have to turn traction control off
odd sand
imagine getting AWD in california or something 😭
Why wouldn't you have AWD in Cali? Especially if you like going into the mountains in winter
odd sand
I mean yes, but both of those together are quite useful
dire viper
if you cant get up somewhere with a 2WD car with snow tires you probably cant get up it with AWD
due to most AWD systems being fluid coupled, they arent great
you would need an actual 4x4 system like on a Jeep
odd sand
My Stinger has a limited slip diff so I think its a little different?
dire viper
when in doubt power out, which you cant do on traditional viscous AWD coupling, cause it just slips the AWD and you cant lock the diff completely
dire viper
My Stinger has a limited slip diff so I think its a little different?
yea that is a little different
WHEN does the diff become limited slip tho?
odd sand
Subaru generally has symmetric AWD I think it is? Not sure how that differs
dire viper
my mini was AWD and it had a limited slip but it was only under braking
odd sand
Couldn't tell you
dire viper
Subaru generally has symmetric AWD I think it is? Not sure how that differs
Subaru says that cause they split the drive 50/50
front to back
normally cars are 70/30 front to back
so Subaru's perform really well on/off road and snowy conditions with the right tires
odd sand
But yes, many chuckles were had seeing like 5 cars in a row stuck on some hill and I just go tearing past them in my little shitbox Saturn bc I had Blizzaks on
dire viper
lmao
Blizzaks are goated
and tbh, FWD just performs better in snow
all your weight is over your drive wheels
odd sand
Like they weren't off the road, but they couldn't get up any more and put their hazards on
dire viper
its why the original Beetle does so well in the snow
its rear engine rear wheel drive, with skinny little tires
odd sand
Eco mode for me is technically FWD so I wonder if that would matter in certain cases
dire viper
maybe but if you are running snow tires just run AWD with traction control off
traction control only helps if you know how to drive with it
driving in the snow is way more involved than most people understand
odd sand
Yep, I was a delivery driver for many years and actually loved coming in for snow days. Make good money and most everyone else gets off tf roads by 7pm
So I would just tear around town like my own personal rally cross
Pulling the ebrake and drifting corners at intersections etc
(Obviously only when no cars or pedestrians were around and no cars parked on the side of the road etc)
I like to drive aggressive and have fun sometimes, but I'm not a maniac/asshole 
umbral moss
driving in the snow is way more involved than most people understand
Just floor it and honk at anyone in your way
Ez 👏
dire viper
yes
umbral moss
Almost got taken out by a propane truck blowing a dead red a few weeks ago
No honk, no nothing
Just cruised right through the red at like 50 mph like this shit head isn't carrying a highly explosive payload
deep sapphire
AWD and "Auto 4WD" are the same thing >>
nope
sly elk
but usually when I see AWD on a car, what they mean, is "it's a FWD car but we shoved a weird differential and a driveshaft in so that 1% of the time, it sends 15% of the power to the rear wheels"
sly elk
aye, but a lot of cars with AWD also work that way
deep sapphire
makes sense, its hard on the front diff specially if driving on hard surfaces
sly elk
I have seen cars where AWD is on at all times
odd sand
Looked up some of the specs for my Stinger and they say in sport mode the torque is balanced 80% to the rear. If you turn off TC/SC it may even be more than that
sly elk
yea the stinger is a rwd car for sure
i'm mostly criticizing audi 😄
and maybe volvo a little bit >>
i'm actually really confused now
I thought the A4 and A6 were moved to FWD but they're still using longitudinal engine layouts
which can sometimes be a thing
cold yacht
think volvo does awd all the time instead of making it rwd that sometimes do awd
sly elk
i thought they made the a4 a long wheelbase a3 at some point and just went with transverse fwd
guess I was wrong
nah volvo is the 'fwd but we call it awd because we stuck a driveshaft in there' kind 😄
dire viper
ye
cause they just use Viscous Fluid Coupling
the rear axles work like a torque converter
so when they lose traction the fluid causes coupling
its interesting
its basically a clutch pack with fluid
also, 4WD and AWD are used interchangeably by the auto industry
timid mesa
Good Evening
odd sand
Gonna have friend's kid over to babysit Thursday while I work. Wonder if I could get proxmox setup on my server finally before then and get a minecraft server on it.
Couple of different friends kids all seem to play hosted off their tablets and runs like crap and they fight over who is the host etc. So I could simplify that for them by simply running a server off my dev box
If sport mode is 80% rear I wonder if I should actually be turning that on when its snowing etc. or not heh
Maybe I should use the Custom setting and tweak it
dire viper
your car only goes up to 50% FWD anyways
so it does symmetrical AWD when its in full AWD
odd sand
I think there is an info pane where it shows torque distribution, or may it's in the manual
modest moss
Good Evening
bitter girder
deep sapphire
🪿
umbral moss
also, 4WD and AWD are used interchangeably by the auto industry
To obfuscate how dogshit their all wheel drive implementation is 
Nissan out there promoting per wheel braking as awd
Not a limited slip differential in sight
dire viper
standard traction control features being advertised as AWD is goofy
umbral moss
That's Nissan for you
Trash company
I took my Nissan to the dealership and told them the steering column shakes when the car is stopped
They told me that's normal
sly elk
They told me that's normal
"It's a Jeep thing"
umbral moss
"It's a Jeep thing"
I said I didn't want to hear about keyboard switches unless they sound like a shotgun slide and this grognard told me to get out of the keyboard hobby lmao
What's it like being a robot that can't detect shitposts
potent arrow
I hate most keeb communities lol
I showed off a few of my boards and they were all like yo thats pretty cool
and I showed off my modded asus azoth
and they were like die
umbral moss
Some of the people in cerakey discord are really experienced in material science and engineering so it's good for talking about material esoterica
Although bunch of dorks jumped on me for saying carbon fiber dust in resin isn't the same as woven composite
sly elk
I showed off a few of my boards and they were all like yo thats pretty cool
from reddit i felt like people only cared about mechanical keyboards when they had that one style
the one that loosk like a fat hunk of rectangular plastic
but isn't the asus azoth one of those too?
just anything in that general shape, also it has to be wedge not flat
and bonus points for a wooden or marble palmrest
and bonus points for expensive stupid pens displayed next to the keyboard
potent arrow
I mean thats just the TKL community lol
I have a tkl with a markble wrist rest and expensive pens
sly elk
i think keyboards are fairly personal and hunting down a specific style/feel that works for you is gonna be a personal thing
DoNt fOrGeT ThE AvIaToR CaBlE
and the law says you have to drill a hole in your desk at the end of the cable and run the rest of it under your tabletop 😄
"I cable managed my desk by drilling holes in it... except for some reason I wanted this cable to show"
keyboards are cool
all keyboards
latent ore
Nah I just run my cables in a straight line down the back of my desk into a row of plug sockets
Got some cable ties and tape
Works fine
sly elk
ah sorry also if drilling holes in your table or any of that floats your boat, that's great 😄
neon shell
"I cable managed my desk by drilling holes in it... except for some reason I wan...
I remember cutting a toilet paper roll into 5 rings and then running the wire through them
It was scuffed as fuck lol
It was for my sim wheel, which has tons of wires
No joke, it actually worked well
sly elk
there's nothing wrong with that lol
void dove
be a pro, instead get the cardboard cylinders from paper towels, they are over twice as long
OR the ones from wrapping paper, even longer
fun for bonking as well 😛
sly elk
AMD Army cant shut us down
great! now do a 7800x3d
that's an interesting comparison test though
lightroom classic
deep sapphire
same thing, the problem is the interface co processor
sly elk
imma get on my soapbox here
not trying to start an amd vs intel thing because I don't care about that
sly elk
but lightroom is trash, and lightroom classic isn't any better
void dove
its Adobe
deep sapphire
sly elk
like idk how people use lightroom classic
I find it straight up unusable >>
I might be the only person that has a mirrorless camera and that opinion lol
because most people I know only use LRC and not the cloud lightroom
neon shell
OR the ones from wrapping paper, even longer
fun for bonking as well 😛
I did that
void dove
I did that
sly elk
mmm
but anyway, I do wonder if that means i could've had a cooler running machine with a 13900k
lol
i avoided that processor because I heard it ran hella fucking hot
and, looking back? I don'
I don't regret the decision lol
the processor would've cost me more $$ and the motherboards I wanted cost more $$ too
the only plus side is there's a lot of z790+thunderbolt options
deep sapphire
both systems run hot as fuck
AMD runs much better at full load
but at idle the intel setup runs cooler and consumes far less power
so it ultimately depends on what you do on your PC
do you bullshit on your web browser most of the day or are you actually gaming 8 hours a day
sly elk
do you bullshit on your web browser most of the day or are you actually gaming 8...
my computer is off most of the day
but I do bullshit in the evening!
that said,
-points at his mac pro- that is on all day 😄
sly elk
<@105255353574260736> more noise https://youtu.be/biCoxxi7OC0?si=DUprnal_CP1izJh...
the miku pedal costs like $500
how disappointing lmao
bitter girder
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MNHcNTUH1iw
real edge
my dad wants a good 12 or more inch display size tablet at a budget, says his is outdated, he is from the UK, any recommendations?
odd sand
On a budget, would probably have to be like a Samsung Tab A or something chinese
sly elk
i forgot if you're in the us, i doubt it, but if you were i'd just grab something here, then fly over and celebrate christmas there with fish and chips and lager
and idk
whatever people in the uk do for christmas
bitter girder
Honor could also be a good option for a budget tablet
real edge
I have little idea about tablets
bitter girder
real edge
I just want it to have an SSD and enough ram so that he can use it as a daily driver without issues
sly elk
intel atom and an emmc? 😄
real edge
4gb ram sounds little
but I have only used desktop PCs before
but even my mobile phone from 5yrs ago has more ram than 4
budget...lets say 250pounds
golden stream
I'd say nowaday 6gb RAM for android if you want smooth enough
golden stream
Can check if samsung uk website has any sale
real edge
golden stream
I got my 1TB fold5 with 250GB fold5 launch price via samsung web sale
That's some steep sale, was ~40%
bitter girder
@real edge currys.co.uk
golden stream
But again, depend ya
Lower end samsung tab may have lower RAM but a lot (if not most) has mSD slot
odd sand
I'd say for that cheap of a budget with a large screen the Honor one or maybe this are your only options: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Android-Manufacturer-Extended-Warranty/dp/B0CMDS33N4/
bitter girder
I’m at work otherwise I’d have a noise ahaha
real edge
I'd say for that cheap of a budget with a large screen the Honor one or maybe th...
is the storage it has at least on the level of an SSD? or whatever the tablet equivalent is
odd sand
The internal stuff is flash storage, yes.
Well... for the Samsung it is at least. If it says MMC then it isn't an SSD
real edge
hm
he found a lenovo tab p12 for 280pounds
does that sound good? seems like it to me looking at the specs
on amazon
odd sand
I recognize that namebrand /s
real edge
yeah its one of the chinese brands
there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the specs
odd sand
What gen is it is the question
odd sand
That means the storage is only an SDcard so it will be slow
I gotta sleep its like 3:45am im gonna die kthxbai
sharp star
i avoided that processor because I heard it ran hella fucking hot
It's so weird because I finished that new video from GN about Intel power efficiency and I still think Intel vs. AMD is still a use case thing
the 5800X3D is the GTX 1080 of CPUs
sly elk
yea -shrug-
it doesn';t matter much to me because i boguht my 7800x3d and i will stick with it a while
until there's something that tempts me to upgrade
so far i'm averaging about 5 years on a cpu
sharp star
Yeah I'm gonna stick with my 7950X3D-cleverly-disguised-as-a-7800X3D for the long term
sly elk
plus having something not intel for once is kinda nice
not that I have a problem with intel or anything
just trying something new :3
sharp star
Yeah I can do that easily with AMD/Intel but not AMD/Nvidia
sly elk
hmm?
oh yea sure that depends on what market you're looking at too
radeons make great $250-350 gpus lol
i was expecting the intel arc to eat their lunch
but i think even an arc a770 is trading blows with a 6650xt
except when you can find one of those arcs for $200 on sale, that's nice
sharp star
I went Intel initially but I started going all in in AMD when X3D first dropped, that convinced me to stay with AMD for now
sly elk
whoever got a 5800x3d at the start made out like a bandit lol
or when they first got cheap
like $300 on antonline on ebay or whatever
inland mauve
uh oh
Comcast strikes again
oh I see, FFXIV avoids cutscene cinematography issues with ultrawide resolutions by putting in pillarboxes to keep it at a 16:9 ratio
that's probably for the best then
umbral moss
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/hack-of-unpatched-comcast-servers-resul...
And nothing will happen to them 
paper tusk
as always
"we saved 1 million avoiding downtime to patch. better give myself an end of year bonus"
(those costomers with the stolen info that will be used to phish? fuck em)
old jetty
Speaking of 2k, is it normal that FFXIV still looks pretty bad on a 1440p monitor?
I guess it is a problem with the way they do anti aliasing
paper tusk
14 has a lot of tech debt that won't be worked on until 7.0 (grey/green post process, outdated antialiasing post processing, nasty gamma curve)
it's basically still a ps3 game
so it's normal because of how it renders (deferred)
hopefully post 7.0 can figure if there's a need (and more importantly a way) to properly replace the shitty code with Temporal Antialiasing
either code injection or reshade
old jetty
So atm it is normal it looks this way/there is nothing we can do?
modest moss
reshade is about it
graceful pine
You can force some shaders and aa with reshade
Maybe some mods to improve textures
But the core game just doesn’t look good
cold yacht
Gotta wait til 7.0 when it gets upgraded
lost python
unfortunately 7.0s anti aliasing still sucks ass
but at least some armor sets get better textures and materials
paper tusk
I'm tempted to try to figure out how to add dlss but pretty sure can't do that even with injection (dummy d3d calls)
deep sapphire
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/hack-of-unpatched-comcast-servers-resul...
here's a free year of identity theft protection just sign your rights away
bitter girder
THIS IS HOW YOU CUT A XAN CAKE
sly elk
*here's a free year of identity theft protection just sign your rights away*
You already did
enjoy your arbitration clause
deep sapphire
kind rune
https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/12/hack-of-unpatched-comcast-servers-resul...
it feels like this happens every week
deep sapphire
!myglam
opal pantherBOT
deep sapphire
I saw that
deep sapphire
oh fuck we are in tech
neon shell
It’s ok. Rules are paper weights 
deep sapphire
this channel is mostly shitposting
kind rune
that actually sounds interesting 
sly elk
how does corsair charge $55 for a fan that doesn't lol
that said
if their LEDs are any indicator, I wonder how long the screen lasts
lian-li fans kinda have a rep for LEDs dying
deep sapphire
that actually sounds interesting <:HMMM:792880998836600843>
buy me some
neon shell
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/12/case-fans-with-little-lcd-screens-are-th...
LED disk reader
sly elk
hahah it does kinda look like a floppy drive
kind rune
buy me some
you have a 4090
sly elk
hahhaa maybe is hould buy some
even fake sticks of RAM that go into your RAM slots
am I the only one who doesn't think this is frivolous?
I dislike empty ram slots >>
probably lol, it does mean worse cooling performance
deep sapphire
you have a 4090
proof?
just says GEFORCE RTX on the side
could be anything
could be AMD
sly elk
ahhh the other funny thing is if I used those LCD fans I have to buy all 'reverse' fans
all of the fans in my computer except for 1 are pulling lmao
i've seen some weird/sad fan configs before so that the fan would look prettier xD
deep sapphire
i always have the proof. <:HMMM:792880998836600843>
thats some good proof
kind rune
thats some good proof
what is
neon shell
Deez
kind rune
money bags over here
GYAGYAGYAGYA i dont have a 4k tv
kind rune
how would you know 
kind rune
neon shell
He crashed at my house
deep sapphire
He crashed at my house
yeah
kind rune
Yea we got him 
kind rune
deep sapphire
they only watch hockey movies
neon shell
lmao
modest moss
It was bidori who bought a 4090
deep sapphire
It was bidori who bought a 4090
I forgot, I think he actually did didnt he?
and then never plays any games on it
neon shell
He uses it as a cutting board
odd sand
Congrats, hope there aren't problems when building it!
neon shell
Overkill 
odd sand
Although it's mildly humorous to me they would pay for a 4090 and then get a PNY of all brands ... and then pair it with a reddragon keyboard and only the 13700K instead of the 13900K heh
neon shell
Red dragon is actually underrated imo
odd sand
I know it's not bad for the price but still
kind rune
theres 87 brands on amazon that do the same thing as redragon
neon shell
I use their keyboard and it’s pretty good
odd sand
If you're already in for $4k might as well get yourself a solid one for like $150. Especially if you're wasting money on 2yr warranties
kind rune
I know it's not bad for the price but still
you can get something with gateron switches for that price
odd sand
At least get a keychron
kind rune
odd sand
It's also about the bezel and the keys
sly elk
i'm sitting here waiting for my 57" monitor to ship
modest moss
and then never plays any games on it
Correct lol
umbral moss
That's why I haven't built my new pc yet
sly elk
hot take time 😄
I don't understand the point of the "it drives itself but you have to keep your hand on the wheel" system
how the hell does that even work?!
does it mean it doesn't turn the wheel when it auto-steers?
umbral moss
Level 2 Ada systems are like, cruise control with slight control over the steering
umbral moss
You're supposed to have your hand on the wheel to take control of the software fucks itself
Yes, that's why autopilot is currently a safety hazard
sly elk
i think what i'd go with here is far less feasible 😄
no requirement to keep a hand on the wheel, but if the driver intervenes, the company must take corrective action
eg an engineer has to look at the problem report and write a response
dire viper
Cadillacs driver assist is and has been a higher rating than Tesla's """Autopilot"""
sly elk
and if they get too many reports too quickkly, well, turn the system off
umbral moss
Self driving cars are doomed without mandatory v2v and a traffic control system
sly elk
but i am surprised we aren't there with the corrective action reporting kinda thing
in practically any other industry with automation, a situation that leads to a near-miss would require a report
but here, since the cars are fucking up all the time, it's all noise so they don't care?
they just get everyone go to jazz-hands because they're like BUT THE AI ... it's learning!
oh wow is this legal
umbral moss
Suicide plugs 
sly elk
it's interesting because suicide plugs have a little metal grounding prong
and that's the cop-out they use
this doesn't have anything lmao
umbral moss
but i am surprised we aren't there with the corrective action reporting kinda th...
It's really fucking hard to write an 8D report for "the driver bumped the wheel jerking it because they thought autopilot meant they don't have to pay attention"
sly elk
i'm saying any incident where autopilot disengages should have some kinda report associated with it
tbh if they want to put the first step of that report on the driver, i'd be fine with it lmao
umbral moss
Like, almost all driver interrupts are because drivers are fucking idiots, not because they're stopping the car from driving into an orphanage
sly elk
make the mpull their ass over and fill out a report thingy
and don't allow 'autopilot' to turn back on until they fill it out
umbral moss
Oh, like the other 50 million traffic violations people do every day and meticulously record?
deep sapphire
TECHNOLOGY
umbral moss
Hope you like an 8D report database full of 8=======D lmao gottem reports
deep sapphire
Tesla cant even engineer control arms
😂
here this control arm can be bolted to the frame with some 14mm bolts
umbral moss
14mm is the cheapest we can legally get away with for iihs testing
kind rune
It's really fucking hard to write an 8D report for "the driver bumped the wheel ...
take that persons car away
deep sapphire
kind rune
real
deep sapphire
kind rune
umbral moss
take that persons car away
You know how many people have turned on autopilot just to do stupid shit like that
kind rune
nobody is buying a car with autopilot to baldur their gate while driving
umbral moss
More like the feature is there so people use it inappropriately
umbral moss
I would prefer not to have any smart features in my car at all
Make it dumb as a fucking socal cheerleader
deep sapphire
people drive so distracted now days
also people in the 90s 00s
umbral moss
The only feature my car has that gets used is the GPS, and even then I usually use my phone because the on board is fucked and doesn't understand nyc addresses
neon shell
people drive so distracted now days
also people in the 90s 00s
I saw a mother reading the newspaper while resting it on the steering wheel once
There was traffic but come on now
deep sapphire
I saw a mother reading the newspaper while resting it on the steering wheel once
thats some old school vibes
I dig it
inland mauve
I saw someone watch a show on their phone in traffic one Monday morning
they were the driver
umbral moss
Pokémon go while driving
inland mauve
you can always tell when someone is fucking with their phone while driving because they start swerving all over the road
neon shell
thats some old school vibes
Yeah but that obstructs the view. Could’ve atleast put it on the center console
deep sapphire
Yeah but that obstructs the view. Could’ve atleast put it on the center console
I would've done the same and steer with my knees
umbral moss
Use your dick to steer 👍
dire viper
very interesting
just kind of an in depth look at power efficiency
A lot of you have requested that we run power consumption tests for gaming on CPUs, so we've finally done that! And alongside fulfilling that request, we also wanted to tackle a comment from Greg, our recurring antagonist commenter, who "requested" CPU efficiency testing. These benchmarks look at the efficiency and raw power consumption of Intel vs. AMD CPUs. There's a particular focus on the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and Intel Core i7-14700K and 14900K CPUs, as these are the most recent and directly comparable / best gaming CPUs.
Also shoutout to 90’s rice cookers gotta be one of my favorite things
sly elk
The warranty replacement fold 4 came
It looks brand new, nice job on the refurb... Wya too much peel off plastic lol
But alas the glass on the back is misaligned
And I keep feeling the sharp edge
golden stream
Also shoutout to 90’s rice cookers gotta be one of my favorite things
90's ricecooker is goat, it can also slow cook things as well
Try mixed veg rice in that cooker
sly elk
I want to buy a fold 4
the hinge and screen protector are common pain points with them
golden stream
I have fold5, at least the hinge is kinda....better a bit
Screen protector I haven't dwell into it
sly elk
yea I think the fold5 should have less of a crease
aren't they doing what the first folding screen razr did where the hinge is hollow and the screen can teardrop inside it now?
wraith agate
I might try to grab a fold 5 then
golden stream
yea I think the fold5 should have less of a crease
You think less crease?
HAHA NO
Less gap yes less crease ehhhh subjective
golden stream
I might try to grab a fold 5 then
Check your local samsung website, sometime they have steep sale for current gen stuff
Speaking of Fold5 crease, it's like mildly annoying to one using stylus heavy /notetaking + drawing
wraith agate
I'm good, my local phone service retailer give insane deals on new phones
golden stream
May be deal breaker to some tho so I's recommend testing it in store
golden stream
I'm good, my local phone service retailer give insane deals on new phones
O nice
sly elk
yea the thing that bugs me is the crease isn't a clean crease
on my phone the crease has a little wave in it about 3/4 of the way up
on the new one, there's a little bump almost in the same spot lol
golden stream
I have the fold1 and fold 5, imo the crease is better in 5 but a bit annoying
sly elk
yea lmao the reviewers who say "the crease is invisible" are full of it
golden stream
In fold1 I don't care bc no stylus
sly elk
though if you do hold the phone in front of you and look straight at it with no offset, it is hard to notice the crease
but any reflections from lights or the sun or whatever? forget it
sly elk
your fold1 still works?
golden stream
Ya
Not daily driver ofc
There is an issue of Fold1 is USB-C charging be ass, dunno bc port or something
My Fold1 front screen glue is dried and detatched but can be reglued no issue
The other reason I like Fold that is be able to work on sheets and stuff w/o clunk mobile aspect
sly elk
yea the form factor is kinda nice
golden stream
Price is not
sly elk
heck I like how narrow the 4/5 are when closed too lol 😄
makes it easy for me to reach around
golden stream
But on big sale, ye it's gud
golden stream
Prob they trade-in
sly elk
especially because the whole thing with the screen protector delaminating after about a year ><
golden stream
Huh, my fold1 has no delaminating issue
sly elk
my fold4 did 😦
golden stream
Then again it's non-stylus screen
Ngl I'm a bit worry about my fold5 screen considering how heavy stylus usage workflow of mine
sly elk
i was kinda surprised since it spends most of its time sitting on my desk or next to my bed
time for care+
golden stream
Prob heat?
Also quick tech rant: holy hell my place ATM is default 24/7 working, then SK and JP ATMs only work in WORK HOUR
Me: nani tf
SK data tether is fine tho
golden stream
Top tech countries
ATM not work 24/7
Painge mannnn
sly elk
i know a gov website or two that only work during the day lol
golden stream
It's even more painge that I need cash for street foods in Myeongdong-ji
ATM: haha not in working time
FFFFFFFFFFF
at least skincare/cosmestic shops accept cards
sly elk
it'd be funnier if the bank card didn't work as a payment method either
sly elk
t-money?
golden stream
Topup in konbinis but they accept cash only
Ah it's public transport card + wallet called T-money
sly elk
that's pretty funny
deep sapphire
TECHNOLOGY
sly elk
there's a bank here in the US called "t-mobile money"
blaa I really should close my account with them, I haven't touched it in like a year
golden stream
Nyeh not that