technology-discussion

[real edge]

overpriced e-waste

3060ti is literally better

stick with AMD if you are on a tight budget

[golden stream]

sadge Gigabyte g5 noises

it has le 4060 w decent vram and in 4050 price bracket

which is decent in laptop end but 4060 desktop is just bad

[eternal zinc]

4060 power consumption not lower than 3060?

[golden stream]

nyeh

considering the price and availability

and vram

4060 ain't worth the 4xxx hype and tbh 3060 12GB is even better

[real edge]

at the 60 series point, power consumption is a negligible difference

[lost python]

Even the 4060ti isn't worh

[latent ore]

A laptop 4060 is probably equivalent of a 3060

[golden stream]

Prob tho, but for a new lappy (not used), a new 3060 isn't that easy to get

[inland mauve]

god I am trying to improve on a several years old approval process and the Excel sheet that we used to keep track of what we approved is a MESS

I think I am going to have to talk to my manager first and ask him for permission to focus on this for a larger amount of time first, or it's going to eat into my time for other tasks

[potent arrow]

[inland mauve]

this was supposed to not be a big deal but it's worse than I imagined

[potent arrow]

do you want to deal with my inventory excel sheet while you are at it

every single transaction I've had in ~10 years

in a nice 8gb excel file

[inland mauve]

is the formatting at least uniform

[potent arrow]

hahahaha

no

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-all-so-tiresome-tiresome-nian-arknights-nian-arknights-gif-1297473812411213853

the problem is that I am trying to turn this sheet into a SharePoint list so that we can start automating on it

[potent arrow]

each tab in the Excel sheet is a month

so uhm
...

[inland mauve]

oh that helps actually

that nicely splits it up into smaller chunks

[potent arrow]

gonna still need to go through 120 books

and the early years of me not knowing how to finance

[potent arrow]

SharePoint.....

[inland mauve]

yeah, and PowerAutomate

anyway I consider this an opportunity to do a spring cleaning on our archive, it's about time that we improved the way we've been handling this shit

[potent arrow]

good good

there's a local company here that I did service for, replacing their local network storage with a bigger one

I found out that they were using txt files in emails for service requests

that gave me permanent phychological damage

[kindred brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/181450588372992000/1183828250561093643/IMG_0920.MOV?ex=6589c0f9&is=65774bf9&hm=1536db25928b4d17441a3bbea9e2664218899fcefe0f049b651f8cc82d40afd8&

GPU issue?

or monitor issue?

Friends laptop

[modest moss]

I'd ddu that and pray

!faq ddu

[opal panther]

How to do a clean reinstall of your drivers

Step 1: Download Device Driver Uninstaller.

Step 2: Download the newest driver from your graphics card manufacturers website: AMD and/or Nvidia.

Step 3: Disconnect your internet and restart your PC in safe mode.

Step 4: Run Device Driver Uninstaller and click on 'Clean and Restart' after you select your device type and GPU.

Step 5: After the PC restarts and you are disconnected from the internet, install the drivers you downloaded from Step 2.

Step 6: After you install them, restart your PC one final time and reconnect your internet.

[kindred brook]

Oh

its a tower

[potent arrow]

seems like a bad GPU or bad cable ngl

[kindred brook]

ok thanks fam

they going to try and swap out the cable

they have tons of cats though

so I told them

might be cat hair

[potent arrow]

I mean try what shue said too

[modest moss]

yeah if you hadn't said laptop I'd have said cable swap too

[kindred brook]

it was a mistkae

I thought they had a alptop

thanks fam

gave them the info

idle temps

5800x

[bitter girder]

I’d suggest tightening the CPU cooler more

[dire viper]

700ft lbs of torque

[bitter girder]

Yes

[modest moss]

is it OCd

[kindred brook]

I doubt it

well its a pre built

NZXT would they OC it

[lost python]

5800x in a laptop?

[kindred brook]

Desktop

[lost python]

ah

[kindred brook]

its a tower

[lost python]

what cooler?

[kindred brook]

I think they have cats

like

6 of them

they have an electric blower

I told them those kind of suck

[lost python]

if its just an average cooler on there then those temps are pretty normal. the 5800x is a hothead

even with my dark rock my idles are in the high 40s to 50s

important is really just the temperature under load

[kindred brook]

oh alright thanks!

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/DG7En7wj8B4?si=SeqSA-xTiKxHKWC1

[deep sapphire]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-ceo-jensen-is-worth-dollar42-billion-but-still-eats-street-food-at-street-markets-and-visits-lan-parties-during-overseas-trips?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_medium=social&utm_content=tomsguide&utm_source=facebook.com

[sly elk]

"cheap"

[odd talon]

Can't beat luxury alternatives

Fancy pho is nothing compared to local small restaurant pho

[graceful pine]

Vietnam's street food sounds really good though

[deep sapphire]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0naJ_xk2_tg?si=TlH19e6zppu7BZYJ

TIL this song can literally crash your hdd

[golden stream]

Native viet here
We give middle finger to fancy restaurant pho and embrace the god-who-know alley pho

[odd talon]

Same over here since we have a big Viet community

[sharp star]

I knew about this bug since it was disclosed but this is the first time I’ve seen it in action

[odd talon]

Some dishes just can't be fancy. It's wrong and doesn't taste as great

[golden stream]

O ya now think again, ye he comes in a diplomacy event or some sort
Streets in my place even rerouted for the event(s) tho

Also mannnn he really has taste, old streets street food is da besto if you can yell the price and not be throatcutted just like nvidia gpu that it

The last time I mingled on the old street area, I gave peepo bullet gaze to protect mah fren from being throatcutted, yeeee not the best experience ngl

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6b4lYOI0GQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ-12tSUWhM

[dire viper]

awesome technology

Ford Bronco II

is this the one that rolled over?

and it turned out its just the wheels were too narrow?

[deep sapphire]

oh oops meant to post this in the chevy channel

yeah

which they made even worse with the ford exploder

[dire viper]

also the joints would wear out and people wouldnt do the maintenance

cause american car owners

[dire viper]

once you put the bullet proofing kit on an exploder they're kinda scary

one of my friends had one that was pretty built out and had a setup for the dunes and jesus

it was fast and could handle

it was like 6 inches wider

[deep sapphire]

I thought the exploder was based on the F-150 frame, I guess the original one was based on the ranger too?

kek so ford just renamed it to escape its past which didnt do shit because the exploder was notorious for roll overs too

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY

[sly elk]

and that was the death of the bronco name huh lol

I recall hearing they replaced the bronco name with explorer because of the rollovers

tbh the last time i drove a ford, was when I rented a u-haul lol

[odd sand]

Not really any different than Anthony Bourdain traveling around finding small places with good food

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1DLLR1KDA

thats what VAIO stood for?

wtf

[modest moss]

yo that thing is dope

[manic lintel]

daaamn... I'd forgotten about the VAIO

[sly elk]

it was a computer, for sure

I mean, most sony computers had this weird aura about them for a long time

from the first vaio to about 2010

they pretty much gave up around that time though

but 2010-ish they had the jelly colored laptops

they were nothing to write home about, but the paint was real pretty

but sony kinda ran out of weirdness and then gave up on vaios

they made this in 2010 as well

but yes, sony made a PC with a 200-disc DVD changer

i always point these out, as well...

1996, and they came with USB ports

although the usability of said ports was strange. Like, the monitor had a built-in ONE PORT usb hub

(and a subwoofer in the base that sounded surprisingly good)

man I miss sony weirdness

and in japan they continued the weirdness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQSKWOw-sZc

i miss the weird purple+grey they used

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxbcIZfe3x0

honestly it's pretty funny that like, on reddit you see people building 'vintage' rigs and using 2005-era hardware in beige lol

by 2001 most of the cool shit was no longer beige

apple had the spaceships, lian-li was making shiny brushed aluminum cases, compaq and hp were selling black PCs

ibm was making fighter-jet-black desktop towers

prolly not the best example but

[wraith agate]

I would buy that ngl

Even now in God's 2023

Or Satan's, kinda forgot who won

In any case, I want that

[sly elk]

reddit: PLANT SETUP

[golden stream]

AYO NICE is dat fern?

[inland mauve]

plam;ts

[golden stream]

the only iffy about plant setup is about moisture and light tho
and also the pot itself

[sly elk]

it's not my setup lol

you've seen mine

well probably seen mine

[golden stream]

lol ik it's not yours

[sly elk]

ye theirs is more.. cohesive... XD

but i like mine better :3

[golden stream]

the thing I'm concerning is le fern, it loves humid environ tho and PC would evaporate moisture somewhat due to heat

[sly elk]

hehe

yea that might cause rusty ram

[real edge]

CUTE

[golden stream]

simple, effective, minimalism, no excess
I likey

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-gif-1284676348901827341

[sly elk]

pretty much lol

[bitter girder]

good morning everyone good morning fellas

[deep sapphire]

good morning lewis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jChtlWNIAL4 was just watching this and thought of you

[bitter girder]

YESSSSSS

[latent ore]

Sega pc

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7jkRbxLYk

[potent arrow]

-_-

[lost python]

"I dropped it"

[sharp star]

the emoji though

[lost python]

i dropped it and it's your problem now :D

[potent arrow]

that's definitely not a drop

I feel like a bike ran over that

[umbral moss]

That looks like a pole, like they knocked over something and it fell right on the hinge

It's symmetrically dented

[potent arrow]

yes but the top is caved outwards, suggesting it was closed and the top pushed inwards onto the keyboard

so it was likely in the closed position run over

or bent

probably bent because I don't think anything has that tight of a radius

[umbral moss]

Yeah, even pizza cutter tires are wider than that

Getting hit with a piece of rebar will do that though

[potent arrow]

I hope IT chewed this dude out lmao

[umbral moss]

Probably a government contractor, zero fucks given

Just put in a req for a replacement at 400% markup

[dire viper]

holy fuck

the US Commerce Secretary told NVIDIA to suck it up

https://youtu.be/VSSb-t76EpU?si=CX2GZV8snMjxK8CQ

holy fuck

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZmPAixkCFc

[deep sapphire]

thanks gina you made scalpers come out and buy all the 4090s

[dire viper]

I mean

thats not her concern

NVIDIA is actually malding about it tho

they couldnt be more upset they have to make a new product

Me, as an investor, doesnt even get why they're upset

they lose out on profits BARELY for a quarter or two and then roll out a new product that they can absolutely dominate in a market with

the biggest issue is the fact that they dont have an intended prouduct for AI learning that isnt ungodly expensive anyways

so whats happening is that AI farms were buying up 4090's and then stripping all of the shrouds and other non essential stuff and just throwing all of it away

[deep sapphire]

im jk bro calm down

[dire viper]

never

[deep sapphire]

typing up fuckin paragraphs and shit smh smh my head on god

[dire viper]

it is an issue

[deep sapphire]

ur an issue

with them long ass paragraphs

[dire viper]

NVIDIA is so stupid

[deep sapphire]

nvidia is the best

[dire viper]

but so is every tech company

[deep sapphire]

I love playing

90s games

on my 4090

[dire viper]

real

me not playing any new titles for years

but I gotta run it at 300fps tho

[deep sapphire]

im gonna go play jazz jackrabbit 2

[wide hill]

why do i need to do this..
https://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/how-to-use-the-philips-hue-wall-switch-module-with-push-button-wall-switches-in-home-assistant
why did i buy a aeotec smart hub for no reason.

and if i want to make it "officially work" you would need to get a hue light hub...

that zigbee mark on the box baited me

[sly elk]

it'd be nice if gpus were sold without that stuff by default and you just bought a heatsink for it

[dire viper]

I agree

or they're packaged with cores that most people dont use

one non RT core modern GPU please

[sly elk]

I wonder if nvidia allows it, even

because it seems like somebody would've come along by now and just made bare board GPUs

[deep sapphire]

sorta

thats what the GT16XX series was

[sly elk]

?

[deep sapphire]

the non RT 20 series cards

oh I replied to the wrong person

[sly elk]

no I meant, a 4090 that comes without a heatsink

ahh lol

yea I was thinking a heavily overclocked 1660ti might do the trick (but vram lacks)

really ,if you want a powerful gpu without RT cores just get a radeon lol

[latent ore]

1080>

[sly elk]

man all these "avoid holiday scams" emails... it'd be funny if one of them had a "click hear to see more about holiday scams" and it lead to a scam

I heard of someone's employer baiting them with an email telling them about a christmas bonus, but when they clicked the link it was a knowbe4 phishing test

[umbral moss]

That scam wouldn't work on me, the ceo is cheap and doesn't give bonuses 👍

[bitter girder]

Bass boosted google pixel 8 advert

[odd sand]

Friend is asking for another friend if this would be good "for business purposes" which I take to mean O365 etc.

https://www.amazon.com/Blackview-Computer-Processor-Ethernet-Business/dp/B0CKSGFPKG/

[potent arrow]

it's fine

it'll work

I have something similar

I know the only issue I had was using more then 2 HDMI ports made the thing blow up lmfao

[odd sand]

Makes sense, since it doesn't do more than 60hz with igpu it says

[potent arrow]

@umbral moss damn this power board has a very interesting 30A delivery design
https://youtu.be/fHxvV-PuqP0?si=7voVV6Y2pV4S3O2b

[sharp star]

damn someone spilled the beans

[golden stream]

It's both a meme and a sorta.....fact...?

I have LCD deck and it does smell

But then again my nose is kinda dedge

[sly elk]

I am amused that ubiquiti is err trying to copy old apple products

https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-unifi-cloud-gateways/products/ux

in a way

it really looks a lot like an airport express lol

[deep sapphire]

is this like the new edge router

cause thats what I thought the edge router was always supposed to be, though it did lack built in wifi

[sly elk]

it's more like a replacement for the old unifi security gateway, in terms of price and stuff

[deep sapphire]

ah alright

[sly elk]

it's $149

also tbh

hmm I wanna say it does less than an airport express could lol

ohhh interesting

you can buy multiple and mesh them

[odd sand]

So it's like a mgmt portal? Otherwise why buy that over a regular AP?

[sly elk]

it's more like a wifi router lol

it runs the unifi network manager stuff so

[odd sand]

I see. So you would use that in lieu of a normal router/firewall?

[sly elk]

yep!

I just find their use case interesting

oh they sell a wired-only version of it, as well

https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/all-cloud-keys-gateways/products/uxg-lite

i didn't see that one lol

idk why someone would use that when for $20 more you also get wifi

[bitter girder]

Ahahahahhahaha it’s an aesthetic though for sure

[sly elk]

yea

i am not saying I care, because I like both! I've got an airport express laying around somewhere lol

[bitter girder]

I never got to actually see an AirPort Express

[sly elk]

ah they made 2 kinds. The weirdest was the first one.

the second gen is such a cute little thing

and you know what else is interesting about these? That minijack is also an optical jack

[bitter girder]

Huh interesting ahahahahha

@sly elk you still playing your guitar?

[sly elk]

I really should pick it up :3

last time I did play around was sunday. monday was awful irl, today was better but I was out a lot

I got a minute!

-pulls out guitar-

-practices stairway to heaven- hehe jk

[bitter girder]

Tfw I bought a guitar because I wanted to play music like this https://youtu.be/JLmyq8A9rU0?si=5OiDY8luqXAsG3ZX

Yeah harder than I thought ahhahahahahahahahahaha

[sly elk]

wow

lol wanna know what I'm playing around with atm?

[bitter girder]

Sure

[sly elk]

this one ottmar liebert song lol
https://youtu.be/LWEvqvGvoSs?t=8

mostly started as a joke because my mom once worked for a doctor who was addicted to ottmar liebert's music and kept playing that song in the office

but it's fun to play

what I wish I could play? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIkHn3FKBYY

(I've definitely spent some time practicing affirmation because it's pretty)

i've also been trying to figure out this one (it's the only video where I can see what that person trying to cover it is doing XD) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZvuuWRcOk

i've also been trying to get back to justin guitar so I can... learn the rest of whta I'm supposed to be learning lmao

cuz at this point i'm blindly messing around and trying to play some things more by ear

[bitter girder]

Hang on 20 second m&m advert

[sly elk]

sadness ;_; it aint worth a 20 second ad

[bitter girder]

Such beautiful music

Meanwhile

https://youtu.be/TMZoEJCX_Sg?si=m7uf2YMyzeRs163S

Music that makes me fart

[sly elk]

how much of that noise is caused by daw/pedals?

honestly it's gotta be fun to play, it sounds like lightning

[bitter girder]

All of that’s through amps

Stupidly expensive ones abahahahahhahahaa

[graceful pine]

That sounds like heavy fuzz and eq

Maybe a bit of bit crushing

[sly elk]

ahhhhhhh

this dude talks about doing a spider walk where when you go up a string you keep your other fingers on the last string and pull them down 1 at a time to the new one

AHHH IT HURTS

[graceful pine]

This is where having big hands is useful

[bitter girder]

The weird noise

It’s from this

Ahahahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QknyIkSjnR4

[graceful pine]

Ah a DT whammy

One of my favorite pedals

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php/?photo_id=10158106077639026

Steve Vai and Allan Holdsworth

The massive hand guys

[sly elk]

the low part sounds awesome lol

i'm not in love with the random squealing

[sly elk]

but the dunhh dunhhh dunnhhh sounds great hahaha

[bitter girder]

2:05 makes me fart so hard

[sly elk]

i also feel like you have to wear a trench coat when playing that

[bitter girder]

Go to 2:05

[sly elk]

also reminds me of

ya know the sound analog tvs make when they have no signal

except synthesized to different notes

[graceful pine]

I love the digitech whammy

https://youtu.be/2jKa_0xnTfU?si=AStzjkRjxpOb6X0s

One of my all time favorite live versions

Go to around 4 mins and the pitch shifting solo starts

[sly elk]

dangit youtube how'd we end up here

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AZskRRwp7PA

omg it's a whole genre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF_fEJ7do6g

these are before my time but they sound hot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eetp-Kk1_do I do remember some of these

it's funny how heavily synthesized music like that kinda fell out of fashion lol

[bitter girder]

There’s an electronic band called GUNSHIP that’s heavily inspired by the 80s synth culture

[sly elk]

ngl

it would be fun to grab a midi pickup thingy

and make those weird midi sounds

[sly elk]

hater building lol

[graceful pine]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Savings_Bank_Building

The actual building in question

[buoyant wasp]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67693935

[inland mauve]

well played sir

[umbral moss]

But autopilot is super safe, I trusted Elon with my kid's life

[wraith agate]

This reminds me, did anyone see that fake video about Teslabots shooting a cybertruck?

Was that an official video made by Tesla or a fan made that?

[sharp star]

masterful gambit sir

[deep sapphire]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amd-says-overclocking-blows-hidden-fuses-on-ryzen-threadripper-7000-to-show-if-youve-overclocked-but-it-wont-automatically-void-your-cpus-warranty

this is mega cringe

[odd sand]

We specifically put this in there, but don't worry guys, we won't do anything with the knowledge.
Right.

[lost python]

cant wait for asus to once again apply way too much voltage because of fucked default settings and people then complaining

[dire viper]

I mean it makes sense they don’t wanna replace 5000 dollar cpus

I put 1000 watts through a new AMD ThreadRipper without proper cooling and this is what happened 😎

I cant find it but there is a video of people fucking around with a CPU and getting like above 2000 watts of power consumption

ah I found the Xeon W9-3495X one where it reaches 1900W lmao

https://youtu.be/d5xC2Dv009I?si=72SxUH39l-k0Y-TL

[deep sapphire]

AMD simp 🤡

[dire viper]

do you think intel is gonna replace a cpu if they know you overclocked it

warranty moment

[deep sapphire]

🤡

[dire viper]

anyways, Dassault Falcon 10X cockpit is pretty cool

[deep sapphire]

Intel doesn’t put e fuses on its chips

[dire viper]

they also dont replace CPU's killed from overclocking

[deep sapphire]

Yes they do

[dire viper]

do they?

why would they

[deep sapphire]

Yes

Because they can

So does AMD

But guess not anymore

[dire viper]

The warranty states it is void if the chip "misused" or "modified or operated outside of Intel's publicly available specifications, including where clock frequencies or voltages have been altered"

[deep sapphire]

Not on your 20,000 dollar processor that’s advertised for overclocking

CLOWN MOMENT

[dire viper]

thats for intel

so outside of what they officially post for boost n what not you void the warranty

[deep sapphire]

Intel doesn’t care besides modern mobos have a gazillion safety features to prevent 99 percent of misuse

Anyways

[dire viper]

AMD specifically does not cover damage caused by overclocking

so they can tell you overclocked it

but if they cant prove it was damaged by overclocking its whatever

[deep sapphire]

Yeah by putting e fuses

This sets a bad president bro

[dire viper]

this is so based

[dire viper]

im fairly certain its not new

companies will always wiggle out of providing warranty, its in their best interest to not give away shit at no cost to the consumer

every company does this

NVIDIA iirc is pretty known for being pretty goddamn pissy about this stuff

which makes sense cause nvidia execs dont even know how to make money

[deep sapphire]

AMD

[lost python]

remember when they tried to void your warranty because the little tiny sticker got damaged? and then EU said fuck you?

[dire viper]

AMD's investor report is at least comprehensive if you know anything about what they sell

[deep sapphire]

Bro what are you even talking about nvidia’s market capital is like 20x both Intel and AMDS rn

[dire viper]

NVIDIA investor report is just. yea we are badass and we make good tech, everybody who passes laws that stop us from doing stuff is cringe and we purposely limit supply to increase a demand

[lost python]

also hank, if you are not big into books, are you into big books though?

[deep sapphire]

[dire viper]

me with 20k in NVIDIA

i mean

its super fucking profitable

doesnt stop them being absolutely shit

[deep sapphire]

You just said a business is in it to make money

[dire viper]

yea but nvidia is weird as hell

[deep sapphire]

But suddenly that’s a problem now because it’s nvidia?

[dire viper]

they could make more money, but for whatever reason they're doing this shit where its almost like they wanna be a parody of a fashion luxury brand

[deep sapphire]

They make their money selling high end shit to companies that can afford it

[dire viper]

at least with the wording they use

[deep sapphire]

You ever boughten parts for industrial equipment?

It’s the same bullshit

They charge it cause they can get away with it and they are the only player in town

[dire viper]

yea im aware that nvidia makes most of their money from commercial/industrial

[deep sapphire]

You want the product? You gonna pay for it

[dire viper]

its still cringe tho

[deep sapphire]

Simple as

Who cares you aren’t the customer and neither am I

[dire viper]

especially when they can provide more product for specific sectors of the market that would make them more money

[deep sapphire]

If you own a 20 billion dollar company that wants to do AI you can afford to pay for nvidia’s shit

[dire viper]

the whole AI debacle is the most frustrating, they knew this was coming but just said fuck it and blame the gov for picking on them

I blame Jensen Huang

[deep sapphire]

For what

Let’s see here

He’s only one of the best CEOs in American history

[dire viper]

NVIDIA is playing weird ass games

[deep sapphire]

Constantly rated highly on Forbes

[dire viper]

I just dont understand why they arent capitalizing on new market trends faster, they could be even more dominant

[deep sapphire]

Nvidia has been top 5 best places to work for like 20 years in a row

[dire viper]

on the consumer end, they release products that are definitely not worth the money, and even on the commercial side they could be cranking out more products! the issue I have is that its weird that they suddenly just dropped the really aggressive stance they had, proabbly cause they got shit on for the last few product roll outs

[deep sapphire]

Again that’s not your call, AMD pulled the same bullshit while offering far less features and this certainly isn’t the first or last time graphics cards have been overpriced

[potent arrow]

WHY ARE NONE OF THESE HARDWARE HANKS EMPORIUM OF SELF FLAGGELATION

[dire viper]

Sarah why are you drinking so early 😭

[deep sapphire]

May I remind you the 8800 ultra was like 700 dollars adjusted for inflation about the price of a 4090

[dire viper]

[deep sapphire]

Nvidia are masters at their craft they innovate, they are a great company to work for and have some insanely intelligent people working there

[dire viper]

yea I never said they werent

I said that they arent as aggressive for literally no reason

[deep sapphire]

What does that even mean

[dire viper]

Currently, it feels like since they have absolutely bloated over the last few years they've slowed down quite a bit in terms of moving product, I get that the chip crisis was a thing for a little while but the actual reports i get yearly have been way different

[deep sapphire]

The 4090 is 2.5x faster than the 3090 in computation

That’s some of the best generational leaps in performance we’ve ever seen

[dire viper]

Its not as optimistic, you could always tell the person writing the investor roundup was actually excited to tell you where the company is going and the new tech that really does put NVIDIA at the forefront

now its like

kinda weird

just really bland

something definitely shifted at the company or something

and then now we have this deal with the GPU exports, that NVIDIA knew about way before anybody else, and it seems like they just didnt bother to address it as quickly as they used to address things like this.

[deep sapphire]

Yeah they shifted making high end workstations for GPGPU purposes and leveraged CUDA even harder

[real edge]

it feels like most companies shifted from pushing good products for the end user to pushing for profit mainly and we're seeing the shift in pricing and quality over the years... Nvidia skyrocketed prices and have quite a big margin that they ask for, but they kept the quality the same..

[latent grotto]

can't wait for the day when we have to pay a sub to use a graphics card

💀

[deep sapphire]

Nobody ever accounts for RnD, nobody accounts for the added cost of moving down to 4nm

[real edge]

if the super refresh is as expensive as the ada one

[dire viper]

They could really make a killing with a China only workstation or server processor designed for the AI workload, but nothing ive gotten indicates that they were running at a rapid pace to develop something that would fill that pretty substantial market need. also the other issue I have is the fact that for now its just turned into companies buying up the bulk of the 4090 and 4080 stock, whether it be cards intended for work station use or for gaming applications.

So its only detrimental that we yet again run into scalping and people buying pallets of GPU's that they then strip down to the bare board to shove in a farm

[dire viper]

I mean, thats the bulk of their expenditure lol

R&D is everything at a tech company that produces hardware

but also a lot of R&D is outsourced

[real edge]

I understand that it costs more to produce. but also, 1200$ for the 4080 is absurd

[dire viper]

yea...

unless they intend 40 series to be the main product for the next 2 years

[real edge]

heres hoping to god the super refresh tones down the absurdity a bit

[dire viper]

but they arent

me reading a quarterly report

3nm

[deep sapphire]

Prices aren’t going down

Why would they

[real edge]

the 4080 did not sell very well, or the 4070ti, at least according to rumors

[deep sapphire]

If you want a high end GPU you are paying high end prices either AMD or NVIDIA

[real edge]

well the 7900xtx is 880euro

currently

[dire viper]

And then the 4060 isn’t a good deal period

[deep sapphire]

Then buy a 7900XTX

[real edge]

but the nvidia equivalent costs like 300euro more

like what

[dire viper]

For

What

1-3% more performance in gaming?

As for work tasks it’s a larger difference but

[deep sapphire]

NVIDIA prices have always sucked in Europe

[dire viper]

Nah that’s prices in the US man

That’s prices everywhere

[deep sapphire]

No I meant for nhadala

[dire viper]

The 7900XTX is 800USD?

[deep sapphire]

no I’m saying nvidia prices are always higher than AMD in Europe regardless of the generation

[dire viper]

Export moment yea

The profit they make is rather absurd tho so moving more volume would definitely be worth it imo, I just don’t know how that would effect their stocks cause that’s… ah wait that’s why they’re being a little weird

Nvidia absolutely exploded over the last few years, probably playing completely safe rn cause of it

[real edge]

I just want a GPU to serve me the next 5-6 years like the 1070 did for the past 6 lol

[dire viper]

fair

Honestly my 3070 was kind of a let down

I woulda gotten a 3080 if they weren’t still crazy expensive when I got my 3070 for MSRP

Although I wonder if my 3070 is defective cause it shouldn’t be bottlenecked in certain games by my CPU but it’s never been to 100% utilization

[deep sapphire]

The problem is we’re in a weird generational leap for graphics

Which always suck to upgrade into

The GTX 780 was like that too

[dire viper]

And I’ve tried super fucking hard to get full utilization even in Ray traced games

[deep sapphire]

That card felt obsolete after a year

[real edge]

the equivalent of the 1070s power now is the 4080, kinda sorta, fair jump in VRAM, fair jump in performance over the last generation. The 4070 is just a 3080 with 2 more vram and shittier bus so it doesn't count.

I think

[dire viper]

Lmao

[deep sapphire]

You overthink it too lol

[dire viper]

Me omw to reseat my 3070

[deep sapphire]

Like dude you have a 7 year old graphics card

Literally anything on the market is faster

[dire viper]

Except the newest low end cards

Heh

[deep sapphire]

Just buy something and move on. FOMO is silly you will always be chasing something better

[dire viper]

I don’t think that’s the problem

[deep sapphire]

Ofc you don’t

[dire viper]

I think the problem is being able to justify spending as much as they want

[deep sapphire]

Buy a 7900XTX and be done with it

[real edge]

yea the super refresh is next month so I am gonna get one of those if the specs do not suck

gonna make my decision then

[dire viper]

Hank I could buy like 10 old ass ford 302’s for the price of a top end GPU’s rn

Could buy a few LS engines as well

[real edge]

leaked specs for the 4070ti super are good and look promising

if they are true

[dire viper]

Ti Super what

[real edge]

lmao thats what everyone is saying

the name is stupid

[dire viper]

And then it’s gonna be in a weird ass price range

I’ve not seen a thing about that

Wack

[real edge]

4070ti is supposed to be 16gigs of vram and 256 bit bus

and a fair jump in SKUs

alleged leaked

we'll see

the 4080super leaks say that it only has 5% more cuda cores and nothing else

the 4070super leaks say that it is quite a big SKU jump

but vram and bus stays the same

so 4070super and 4070ti super leaks are the most promising

[lost python]

im gonna care if they price it below 700$ but that aint gonna happen

cant wait for 2028 and 2500$ GPUs to hit the market

[dire viper]

affordable consumer electronics is a myth

[real edge]

personally I have to care cause my GPU is super old and I am worried about its health lol

[dire viper]

nvidia on the dyson scheme now

[real edge]

im just glad it can pull 60fps out of its ass in most games, modern or otherwise

somehow

[dire viper]

current issue is pricing not follow the real world effects of inflation, plus now the market kinda fell out except for specific sectors

NVIDIA probably is gonna start suffering cause of commercial demand going down

especially as the price bubble is gone now

[real edge]

PC gaming market is gonna die if they keep inflating GPU price and those GPUs end up being necessary due to advancing tech

[lost python]

we are just seeing a full circle

like back in the 90s when shit was excessively expensive, then became cheaper and more available and now since covid stuff got less available and more expensive again

[deep sapphire]

^

Hell the FX 5800 was like what 800 bucks when it launched

LMAO

and PC hardware literally was obsolete after 2 years

[lost python]

if it even survived 2 years

10mb hard drive for almost 4000$ btw

[deep sapphire]

We are so lucky you can even game at high settings for more than 6 months

[real edge]

the 4080 and 4090 are both very powerful GPUs that are very well built for the most part

except for the new connector

I hope they fix that in the super series

[deep sapphire]

Back then trying to fuckin play track mania nations on your X800 getting like 20 FPS

[real edge]

ye

at least nowdays old GPUs can still do decent fps

I played baldurs gate 3, a 2023 game with a 2017 GPU and was getting upwards of 60-70fps with a medium-high settings mix, no FSR

if you bought a 2006 gpu and played a 2012 game

good luck getting 10fps

so things are definitely better

[deep sapphire]

The first time it was feasible was the 8800

[real edge]

I know that if I buy a 4070ti super/4080super I know it will easily last 6years or more in terms of solid performance.

with ray tracing for a year or two probably

but without RTX easily 5-6

[odd sand]

The head of the FCC or w/e in the US told them whatever they design to try to get around the regulations to ship AI cards to China, they will simply do what is necessary to add them to the restriction as fast as they make them.

[dire viper]

Yea I saw

thats only if NVIDIA tries to work around them

but they've already stated they are working with them

so

hopefully something soon?

not sure tho

[odd sand]

But if they're going to simply buy up the normal stock then, it's clearly not going to work unless they commit to blocking the sale of any 70 series or higher cards

Whatever they come up with will be a kneecapped card, so if the flashed 4090s are better than the gimped card they make, they will simply keep buying them

[dire viper]

true

but making something that could potentially be more dense?

that would work

its all about space

[sly elk]

yea looking forward to the $2999 5090

[dire viper]

literally paying for a honda grom at that point

[sly elk]

yea i think at some point people will stop paying haha

but so far they haven't

lots of happy 4090 customers that paid $2k+ for their gpu

[dire viper]

for them to use no more than 30% utilization

minecraft enjoyer GPU

[inland mauve]

turns on RTX in WoW

[dire viper]

honestly RTX was a mistake

its cool tech but like

the only good implementation of it ive seen personally is the fucking minecraft raytracing nvidia cooked up in house and then Cyberpunk

if you can run Cyberpunk at good fps at all ultra that shit looks so insanely good

[minor hollow]

Disagreed

Rtx was new tech in an immature state

Games aren't ready to take advantage of it

The 20xx series issues were due to many factors of which rtx isn't a leading problem

[dire viper]

nah RTX is cool

its just

most devs wouldnt make use of it

and most probably wont for... a long time

pushing the boundaries on what can be done is awesome, but in terms of what it sacrifices or ultimately gives the consumer should really be the first consideration

[odd sand]

The issue of course is the moment it provided more "overhead" for proper framerates in games, developers immediately crutched on it to deliver woefully unoptimized garbage that won't run well without it.

spend time and money on high graphical fidelity, then make it so you can't run it without running the game thru JPEG compression /s

[dire viper]

I still think the minecraft rtx is the best optimized?

afaik NVIDIA themselves spent a lot of time on it

and it ran exceptionally well on my old 2060 Super at 1080p

like 60fps normally

even when I started messing around with colored glass and what not and pistons

[cold yacht]

Im still unsure about if gpu in oven works or not

[bitter girder]

put it in the oven and find out

[sly elk]

it will go better if you remove the plastics first

[odd sand]

It's the same concept as Xbox360 and some earlier Alienware laptops: Reflow the solder

[sly elk]

the ghetto xbox 360 fix (if it worked sometimes) was to just boot a demanding game and cover it in blankets?

[odd sand]

While sitting it flat I assume

[dire viper]

the 360 thing had a trick too it but actually fucking worked

average microsoft L

[odd sand]

Every time you reflow tho I think the solder is more brittle so it's a limited fix

[devout nexus]

it works, 450 for about 9 seconds

[umbral moss]

They advertised coffee holders

[dire viper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izaVds2Rrys&ab_channel=MakingforMotorsport interesting

[sly walrus]

and the coffee is held

[proven oyster]

ANd once more, weird Laptop issues popped up

Chatting all fine in Discord, then suddenly it ALL Slow downs
...yet strangely, nothing on Task Manager even indicates an issue, not even The game itself notices that the FPS has tanked either

Which... that does ask what the heck that'd be

If the PC itself Operates at its normal habit, if there is no heavier resource usage, if the fans Wind up in spite of that, and even FPS Trackin doesn't recognize less frames being rendered... what Can that be..

[proven oyster]

The only notes i been given was

1. Gpu could be dying... which is strange considering how this is something that only has happened last month once, and its been 4-5 months since i got this laptop
2. GPU Could be overheating... which i very intentionally do my best to not even heavily use the GPU, intentionally trying to hit the sweetspot where the fans don't have to wind up at all

[real edge]

what are your specs

and what are you trying to play

[proven oyster]

Its an Acer Nitro 5 laptop
i5 12500H, RTX 3050 TI, 16 GB DDR4

And this was... just chilling on gpose, with no shaders and low settings on FFXIV, where it suddenly sparked up As i was writing in Discord

Nothing i was doing, was making the laptop go hard
If anything... i was making it just Not go fast

I also am a HEAVY Power User of my laptop. Basically every single day i use it, for 6-8 hours, with one being the full use double up

All while always plugged to power

So, when i mean this didn't happen again until a whole 30 days ago, thats of note

The one major thing i should at least, is that i do be using an external monitor for this laptop, and set it up on Windows as my primary monitor

Only other issue of note i can bring is, on similar vibes and circumstances, i have seen my laptop screen black screen for a second, before going back to norm

ANd that is on similar level of rarity

[deep sapphire]

are you positive its not overheating?

[proven oyster]

Well it certainly doesn't go above 60ºC at most

[deep sapphire]

is your drive nearly full

[proven oyster]

Both are 500's, and have 300+ GB free

I use Opera GX, and has both limiters on too

Also, extra note that i specifically recall of both cases

Audio is NOT Stammering

If a song or sound clip happen
It runs properly

[deep sapphire]

https://i.imgur.com/LaqJNbe.png what does the performance tab show

clock rates look fine? Disk isnt maxed at 100 percent?

[proven oyster]

Sadly, i can't
Exactly re-spark that at all ;D

But i was looking at the processes, and nothing was high

It just... acted "Like it was normal"

Not performance tab sadly, just processes

[real edge]

windows 10

it should be there

[proven oyster]

No i mean

The issue is LONG Fixed since

I just closed and reopened laptop and it immediately solved

So i can't... Re get the issue to see what happens during it

[deep sapphire]

well, I suspect it was something updating in the background or for whatever reason the laptop went into a lower power state

[proven oyster]

IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, Ill try my best to remember to check the Performance tab
But that may be next month

[deep sapphire]

like steam loves to suck the ever loving shit out of your drive I/O when it downloads or updates stuff

[proven oyster]

Its a weirdly easy to resolve issue, but the fact it happens just
Makes me scratch my head

[deep sapphire]

I wouldnt worry about it if you are sure temps are normal then. Check your drive utilization in performance tab next time its happening, if it shows 100 percent I would check to see if something is updating in the background

I've had it happen in the past myself where out of no where my PC went to a crawl and I found out that was the culprit

[proven oyster]

Ill do my best to recall

The main reason that makes me scratch my head too on like
This being performance related

I not sure if its true or false, but i use Reshade's FPS Counter with FFXIV on at all times

And Even with the slow down

...it still said 60 FPS

Thats the main thing that made me scratch my head
How can a whole PC be slowed down in such a way, that a FPS Counter Doesn't even realize its slower

[deep sapphire]

that I have no idea, I would have to see it myself

the more I recall, when it was happening to me on my old PC

it felt like stop n go

like I could run for a second then it locked up

and then do it again lol

sometimes the pokeball icon would show up

[proven oyster]

Mine was... everything ran on a delay

[deep sapphire]

but I dont think the frame rate ever technically went down? so I wonder if thats similar to what you are experiencing

[proven oyster]

Like, on this slow down

I quit out of FFXIV... normally

Like... every single action ran fine

And at the expected "rhythm" too

It was bizarre

[lost python]

everything being delayed but fps being fine sounds like the CPU for some reason just didnt perform

back when i was still on a quadcore, battlefield would run like that. every input delayed as fuck but fps still 70+

[proven oyster]

I fundamentally can say

"It chugged"

But it chugged, and still worked fine

Considering this is a laptop though, that uses... gosh what was the term

Optimum?

[deep sapphire]

well we'll never know for now, yeah just check the performance tab next time it happens

nvidia optimus?

[proven oyster]

The thing that basically means that the laptop CPU n GPU are nearly one to one
Yah that

I have a wild ass guess of
"Yah it got REALLY Confused somewhere"

[deep sapphire]

optimus basically uses the intel igpu as a frame buffer (what writes to the screen) and the GPU is a co processor, so under light load or basically just on windows it only uses the intel igpu but once a 3D game or heavy load is detected it swaps over immediately

somtimes games will show the wrong graphics adapter too, including ffxiv

[proven oyster]

I do know that... and this is experience from PSo2

[deep sapphire]

had people in here say that its running on the intel gpu when it probably wasnt

[proven oyster]

It is entirely feasible for a game to run

So light

That the GPU drivers THINKS its not a game load

And downclocks itself HARD

Until it realizes that it SHOULDNT ;D

[deep sapphire]

one thing I absolutely hate is you couldnt even use nvidia control panel to change 3D settings unless they changed that

this was years ago

use to piss me off so much

[proven oyster]

The PSO2 situation i had to fix by hard locking the, at the time, APU i was using

So its GPU clock was perma to its "Normal level"

Solely to tell it to stop downclocking on low loads

[deep sapphire]

I would think they would design it so that it could detect applications as well instead of only relying on graphics load

who knows

im sure there is an answer out there but I havent owned a gaming laptop for 20 years so its never considered me much

[proven oyster]

Well, considering this was PSO2

A game that had an endgame zone that could flat out

BREAK its own audio drivers until you reset the game

I doubt it was well coded ;D

[deep sapphire]

sounds like a Sega game

I use to play PSU

[proven oyster]

It was a hard core grinding zone, so it was super noisy

So the breakage was basically "EYup, this is a proper farm run now"

[deep sapphire]

I found it funny that the 360 version ran so much better, not to say I had the best PC in the world but it was more than capable for the game

does new genesis run like crap

I've heard bad things

[proven oyster]

I sadly stopped playing it before i got this new laptop

It may or may not run like crap
But

It sure isn't worth it to play to test that

[deep sapphire]

lmao I heard

🤣

[deep sapphire]

why do windows 11 wallpapers have dithering

couldnt they have tried a little harder than using 16bit color mode

[golden stream]

GODDAMNIT PSO2

Somehow PSO2 (the OG) non mod highest pushed my 1660 more than MHW custom highest

For NGS I haven't play enough to actual stress test it

tfw I resetted my w10 TWICE bc sussy ProgramFile ffffffff

Thanks Sega

[proven oyster]

This is a hella blind guess, but it feels a lot of japanese devs dont know how to proper optimize PC Stuff

Or do it Right

[golden stream]

More like do it right

Remember FF11 animation is tied by fps

[deep sapphire]

that isnt a blind guess at all

thats just accurate

[golden stream]

Considering JP has p big console culture iirc

[proven oyster]

Buy everyone a PC

[deep sapphire]

they are better now but for awhile yeah PC was like a total last resort

[golden stream]

PC is still beeg just shadowed by consoles

[deep sapphire]

Capcom in particular does a really good job with PC

[sharp star]

Yeah PC is still overshadowed by consoles but it's growing

[golden stream]

recently and w RE engine tho

[sharp star]

pretty fast too iirc

[deep sapphire]

I've always been impressed with their PC versions even going back to RE5 days

[golden stream]

Ohhhh ye

Their Framework engine is kinda UE3-ish

[deep sapphire]

I think they usually had pretty good ports I guess SF5 was kinda meh but it was playable at least

[proven oyster]

And dis is why FFXIV wont ever be "Fixed"

[golden stream]

Capcom: aight we'll prove that PC sale is crap w MHW on steam
Alsp Capcom: O F NOW EVERYTHING BETTER PC READY

Eh 14 is rather.......legacy issue

[deep sapphire]

[proven oyster]

i like my plogs

[deep sapphire]

14 use to be a lot worse if you can believe it

shit use to crash if you blew on it wrong

specially during heavensward

[golden stream]

Proto Luminous iirc

Tho

Idk which engine they use for PSO2NGS

[proven oyster]

I dont tend to play many PC games, so my experience is limited

The only other recent major one, aside Indies which zzz in Pc tech notes

Is Warframe

[golden stream]

I play quite a few

[sharp star]

I was huge on console during the PS360 era

[deep sapphire]

I think as a whole the PC industry is a lot better but there are a lot of lazy ass developers out there

[proven oyster]

Whom i really wish didn't had like a giga truckload use of RAM

[golden stream]

ART THOU TENNO

[sharp star]

I weaned off it during the PS4/Xbox One era

[proven oyster]

ID LIKE TO BE MORE TENNO

[deep sapphire]

during the mid to late 2000s PC was probably at its worst

[proven oyster]

BUT I CANT MULTITASK IT AND FFXIV

[deep sapphire]

piracy was really high and PC ports were often considered a meme

[proven oyster]

Honestly, i wanna be told if having near perma 90+% Memory use is bad or fine

[golden stream]

Huh, I have no issue in 14 and memory

[proven oyster]

Well, its not that FFXIV has issues

Its that, FFXIV

AND Warframe up

Is a bit too much

[deep sapphire]

how much ram you got?

16GB?

[proven oyster]

ye

[golden stream]

16 will be a bit too much ya

[deep sapphire]

yeah thats pretty much cutting it close there

[golden stream]

WF is a tad heavy in memory

• windows

[proven oyster]

yaya

[deep sapphire]

you have to remember though that windows is always over allocating memory and putting things in page files for later use etc

now if you have 95 percent full storage AND you are maxing out your ram

now you are in trouble

[sharp star]

If I can run FFXVI at reasonable settings at 30-40 FPS on Steam Deck that would be awesome

[proven oyster]

Its just more

[golden stream]

lmao in linux

[sharp star]

But Square Enix things tee hee

[proven oyster]

1GB in FFXIV, and like

...iunno... 4-5 GBs on Warframe

And like ouch

[sharp star]

Also we don't know who's porting the game

[golden stream]

Uhhhh dunno, we can only hope

I MAY BE ABLE TO TEST ME HAVE LE DECK

[deep sapphire]

when is 16 gonna come to PC

[golden stream]

Soon

Not SoonTM

[sharp star]

Yoshi-P said roughly a year after the game's original release date on PS5 in a recent Famitsu interview

So June, plus or minus

[deep sapphire]

oh nice

[golden stream]

Speaking of 14 and memory, it uses like 1-2GB memory

Checked w my system (w10-w11), linux is a bit less

[golden stream]

Not sure abt the spec tho, the min spec is like estimate?

[proven oyster]

I know its dumb, but
i do like the vibe of being able to just
Stay in a game, and play in another for a bit

Its a lil just thrill to know i could

[sharp star]

All he said is "please get a SSD"

[golden stream]

W10-w11 is already hell on hdd

Just mere boot tho....

And SATA SSD is dirt cheap, of you have port of it in your laptop (if laptop), nvme is like optional.....?

[sharp star]

I wanna get a new SSD for my Deck

But I'm weird about cracking my new OLED open

[golden stream]

It shouldn't be cracked if do it carefully

Imma just like, ssd deck for 14 + main linux stuff, most games are in cards

O ya I can test 16 card load stuff

[sharp star]

Oh no I opened my old LCD before

I might do it again with the OLED

Just cram a 2TB in there

[golden stream]

Do et w le OLED

No 2TB in my place, max is like 500GB

[sharp star]

I can get a SN770M for like

almost $200 equivalent which is oooooooooof

[golden stream]

ooooooooooof

Painflare

My place is like, too niche format, not import bc no profit from it

MSD card is abundant tho and imo itz fine

[sharp star]

yeah but they load slower so I put smaller games in them

[golden stream]

Hmmmm I may try MHR on ssd-card and compare it

But the issue is RE engine may be really opti so uhhhh it may affect the result

Don't want to download 100+gb of MHW

[sharp star]

I found out that you can cut it in half by removing the high-res textures

that's what took up a large chunk of the game for me

[golden stream]

Huh, til

Bc on my system (not deck), it's like wat 120+GB

Now......let's see if YoshiP has 16 low res pack

[snow cypress]

Cpu cooler recommendations? I have a ryzen 7 5800x with the nzxt x53 cooler and im hitting almost 80 degrees celsius when just playing overwatch 2

[dapper nymph]

i've not checked temps in a while

[lost python]

pretty normal temps

if you want better temps you need to get a much beefier watercooling setup tbh
even with the top-end aircoolers you easily each 70-75°C during gaming

only alternative is undervolting the cpu

[sharp star]

that is normal. you're fine

[snow cypress]

Ah ok thank you both, just wanted to make sure

[odd sand]

In years past that would have been high, but TDP max these days is like 100-105C

[bitter girder]

@deep sapphire

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

the stretching circle

honestly working in the trades stretching is the shit im old now

[bitter girder]

@deep sapphire come meet me in barbados in january

[deep sapphire]

alright I'll get some tickets

[bitter girder]

sound 👍

[deep sapphire]

PB blaster beer alright!

[minor hollow]

Stretching has always been the shit

Reduce the social stigma around stretching

Everyone wins

[dire viper]

Ain’t no way this is real

[deep sapphire]

Lmao

[latent grotto]

Theres a stigma?

[deep sapphire]

yes

[latent grotto]

I never knew

[modest moss]

@bitter girder in my kitchen

[bitter girder]

YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[modest moss]

haven't had one in a while, looks a good one too

[bitter girder]

yeah i've been avoiding them for a while aswell

been eating the smaller ones

[modest moss]

definitely need tolerance breaks for them

[bitter girder]

oh yeah

for sure ahahaha

[deep sapphire]

That looks good

Are those like cinnamon rolls

[modest moss]

I was too lazy to go take a pic of the one in my kitchen

yeah it's just a big sharing one

[dire viper]

https://youtu.be/oc-RE-i2IqM?si=9SccHpG3pjdc0ejr im gonna post this here cause its actually rather interesting. lots of weird tech that all works pretty well

Ok google, turn on the defroster

[modest moss]

you're meant to tear it into 4 servings

but lol

[bitter girder]

we aint sharing ahahahaha

[modest moss]

in reality you split it in 2 at best

and get fat

[dire viper]

clean yo desk hank

[deep sapphire]

No

[dire viper]

chug the Tabasco

[deep sapphire]

I’m in my recliner

[bitter girder]

cosy

[deep sapphire]

God I love Tabasco

[modest moss]

at least move the water bottle, it's blocking some screen

[deep sapphire]

True

[bitter girder]

I love my iPhone 25

[deep sapphire]

I’m watching a pbs documentary on the Vietnam war

[bitter girder]

oh shit wrong model

23

[dire viper]

god I love Volvo, Swedish engineering so weird it just works

like they have a chart of what will fit on the rear hatch lmao

[deep sapphire]

American engineering “I dunno have you tried you dumb piece of shit”

[dire viper]

tbh storage is lacking now

[deep sapphire]

Not for me I got an 8 foot bed

[dire viper]

in a pre mid 2000's cadillac you could put 8 dead bodies in the trunk

now you can only fit 2

[deep sapphire]

Blame the EPA

[dire viper]

what has this world come too

[deep sapphire]

And IIHS

[dire viper]

I mean

IIHS based

[deep sapphire]

they want efficiency and safety

Not storage and comfort

I want my fuckin recliner captain chairs back in the suburban

Anyways I’m watching this cya

[dire viper]

do they not offer them in the Suburban anymore?

ok bye bye

quite a few cars have reclining captain chairs so maybe a chevy design issue

[sly elk]

the trunk in our xts is huge

like every other 'extended' fwd platform, the proportions are awkward and make for an enormous trunk on the xts/last gen impala

[dire viper]

yer

there are still some cars but

[sly elk]

the ct6 and chrysler 300 had way better proportions and slightly smaller trunks

[dire viper]

very few have an old Deville level trunk

[sly elk]

but that also means a better back seat!

yea I've never been in a deville/dts

[dire viper]

true

Deville isnt even that big but its still huge

[sly elk]

i still kinda resent them dropping the old names :\

[dire viper]

on the inside

that being said you will die in a Deville wreck lol

[sly elk]

deville and fleetwood and stuff sounded cool af

[dire viper]

im talking 1990's Deville

[sly elk]

you'd die in a 90s car wreck? I mean they were pretty crap compared to anything made after 2010 for sure, but i think you'd still survive

maybe not walk away from it

[dire viper]

the old Deville is like

[sly elk]

I was a kid in the 90s and I remember seeing a few car crashes back then, they were brutal

[dire viper]

so thin on all the panels

it probably has decent crash structures on the front but if you get a small overlap or side collisions, its joever

[sly elk]

^ yeaaaaa

anything after 2002 or so would be survivable for side crashes (if it has side airbags anyway) but the small partial overlap was a 2010 thing, I think

maybe even 2015

sometime between 2000 and 2015 was when cars took side impacts and rollovers seriously

which I think sucks when you enjoy the looks and styling of classic cars

like i'd love to get a 60s/70s cadillac lol

but I would be hella afraid to drive one of those out here

[umbral moss]

From what I recall, it's now legal to make replicas of old cars as long as you don't make more than a few per year

So you could just print the body panels and slap them on a frame that won't kill you when you get hit by a truckzilla

[modest moss]

I ate half

it had so much frosting