#technology-discussion

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sly elk
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literally everything I have in my computer was available in the same form without rgb

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you could argue the evga 3080ti xc3 ultra isn't as good as the ftw3 but they are the same damn card lol

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the motherboard is offered in several models - the cheaper 2 don't have rgb but they aren't any 'worse'

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same with the ram, there's a non-rgb version with the exact same chips inside

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nobody si forced to buy rgb

wise jay
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I miss EVGA

sly elk
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admittedly the reason I bought the more expensive motherboard was I wanted that little 7 segment screen

wise jay
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It makes troubleshooting way easier so it aint a bad purchase

sly elk
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I like knowing why my computer failed to boot XD and using 4 sticks of ddr5 and wanting to OC them, I actually made use of it a few times XD

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yea I am pretty happy with my purchase. I just wish it did thunderbolt

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some boards (either onboard or via a card) you can feed your gpu displayport output into them and then get a thunderbolt 4 port that you can use with thunderbolt monitors

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admittedly it's mostly not necessary because virtually all monitors a gaming pc owner would be interested in just use displayport and/or hdmi

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-sigh- and they don't even have usb-c lmao

wise jay
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ya I have just the 3 status lights on my current one and when my pc quit working shortly after being built it I generally knew what was going on but the 7 segment display wouldve required 0 thinking to fix

sly elk
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smh have to buy usb-a to usb-c or lightning connectors to charge my phone off my monitor lmao 😄

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sadly diy pc hardware always lags behind

wise jay
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I got a few usb c on this board so Im happy

sly elk
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if your motherboard has lights for ram and cpu, that's probably enough XD

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it just gives you a little more certainty

wise jay
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ya the status lights and when the pc "shut off" was clear enough to me. It was my ram overclocking

sly elk
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like if I see it flick through the various initialization states adn then switch over to CPU temperature, I know my computer post'd correctly

wise jay
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ya it was a POSTing issue

sly elk
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because the status lights won't come on if you have a good boot.... or if your board is just dead

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then again a speaker will 😄

wise jay
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they light up at very specific stages of the booting process and then hold a certain color and that tells me whats going on

sly elk
wise jay
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unfortunately the cmos battery was hidden behind my vertically mounted graphics card so it was a pain in the ass to remove to clear the configs

sly elk
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oof

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thisis another nice thing with the higher end boards

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they usually have a button on the io plate

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on the one i have

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wise jay
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ya I didnt have the bios on a flash drive so i couldnt just use the flashback. Damn thats pretty handy

sly elk
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iirc the 'smart' button has a handful of different things you can assign it to do from the bios

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iirc it defaults to being a 2nd power button

wise jay
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Ill try boosting my ram again if I need to but whatever speed its running at is sufficient and its stable

old jetty
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So question, since I'm Quite a noob and I want to upgrade some pieces of my pc, the new good SSD are the nvme ones, right?

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Also I plan to expand the ram to 32 GB of DDR4 ram over the 16 GB I have now

sharp star
real edge
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storage has dropped in price for quite a bit

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a quality 2tb pcie 4.0 nvme drive is like 140$

wise jay
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ya I got a single 4 tb 4.0 for this computer when I built it

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Theyre at a really comfortable price

golden stream
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you can also get 64GB DDR4 for p affordable price point rn even on laptop
(assuming ur lappy supports 64GB memory first)

golden stream
real edge
lost python
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neat

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crazy that just 2-3 years ago when i build this PC, i paid 110€ for my 500gb corsair mp600

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actually no it was 130

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110 was the other 500gb i have from crucial

wise jay
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ya like 5 or so years ago I paid 100 for 500 GB 3.0 and recently only paid 300 for 4TB 4.0

lost python
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bruh

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5+Ghz, 102°C, almost 1000w

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also air cooled

potent arrow
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HOW MANY WHAT

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AOKJSDHkjashdkajdhak

umbral moss
glossy ravine
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96 cores??? God. Wtf do you need that for?

real edge
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workloads

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threadripper is used for servers usually

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or high workload PCs

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server CPUs are stupidly expensive

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threadripper is one step below that

lost python
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they have an epyc cpu with 128cores and 256 threads

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only runs at a maximum of 3.1ghz tho

modest moss
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Enthusiast video editing etc

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1000w is mad though

dull garnet
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Things that aren't gaming

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Like word documents /s

modest moss
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very large excel spreadsheets

wraith agate
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You will laugh

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But I know a company where they use a very large excel sheet for data storage

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And they do need CPUs like that

void dove
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seen it before, multiple times

inland mauve
void dove
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recovered corruption, multiple times

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told them they need a proper system, MULTIPLE TIMES

wraith agate
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It's hilarious

void dove
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and kept billing them

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idiots

wraith agate
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It's still cheaper than hiring a data scientist

neon shell
paper tusk
deep sapphire
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they also act like how heatpipes work is suddenly unique exclusive technology LMAO

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CPU HEAT BOILS LIQUID INSIDE VAPOR CHAMBERS!

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yes no shit

neon shell
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😆😆

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umbral moss
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I asked about the problem tracking database so I could find something that was referenced in an email

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"oh its in the excel spreadsheet"

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Bitch, not everything is supposed to be an excel sheet

odd sand
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Renting a car today and it's a Malibu. Annnnd the rear wheel bearing is now grinding at only 44k miles. Stay classy Chevy

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I'd say something to them but I don't need them trying to blame me

neon shell
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And the CEO of Chevy is here. Don’t want to upset them

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Hehe

sly elk
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44k miles on a rental car o_O what the heck kinda rental place is it

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i don't remember ever seeing a rental with more than 20k on it

odd sand
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It's Avis and it's bc cars are still in short supply

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Also I have a feeling they're holding onto the cheaper cars longer while still flipping the higher rental cost ones at 10-20k

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And it started acting up 200mi down the road

sly elk
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still worth calling them and complaining

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I also rent a lot from avis since i get a big discount through work >> they never have malibus here though, just kias and camrys

neon shell
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Initiating take off

minor hollow
neon shell
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beep beep currently contacting Hank

sly elk
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the whole design is wrong

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it[s like they were going for a tonka truck vibe

minor hollow
# sly elk

The vehicle choice for the suburban champion

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Never offroads

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Complains about gas mileage

sly elk
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idk

neon shell
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If we’re only talking about the exterior, I personally like it

minor hollow
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Drives it to get fast food

sly elk
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off roading was super duper popular a little while ago

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I would not be surprised if they used that thing to destroy a trail or two

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then protested when said trail was closed down by too many yahoos wrecking it and leaving trash everywhere

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lol what about the ev

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what the hell is going on with those headlights that look like foglights way too high up

neon shell
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Now that’s ugly

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ew

sly elk
neon shell
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Looks better

sly elk
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i thinktheir normal one would look better if they got rid of the weird side thing

iu.png
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but that seems to be part of gm's brand identity atm

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front end designed by schick

iu.png
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the inside is decent though

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looks like the HDs still have the option for a bench seat o_O

deep sapphire
sly elk
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it's ok

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i'm not gonna say i like the ford/ram grilles better because i think they're all gross xD

neon shell
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So I just learned something new today

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Apparently CPUs are not as flat as they seem

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Hence why thermal paste is necessary among other reasons

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Pretty cool

sly elk
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Nor are heatsinks

neon shell
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Also cool

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Literally and figuratively

odd sand
random marlin
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fellas whats a normal size for the pagefile Aqua_Peek

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its set at 16gb by the system for me, not sure if thats an average size

dull garnet
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Set it to system managed

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I think the rule used to be 1.5x your ram but...

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I don't need a 48GB page file

sharp star
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yeah just set it to system managed

umbral moss
# sly elk front end designed by schick

There's an old S10 at the train station, it's so wild seeing a pickup truck that doesn't take up four parking spots and stand 12 feet tall before you hit the hood line

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Who knew you could have a light duty pickup truck and not have it do double duty as a fucking mrap

sacred cobalt
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everyone who was around before the EPA decided to tax fuel economy based on weight/cargo capacity

void plover
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Bros

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If anyone finds a good 1tb ssd on sale ping meh haha

lost python
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m.2 or sata?

void plover
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Uhh

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I never actually knew the difference between ssd types

lost python
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m.2 slots into your motherboard and uses an m.2 pcie port for it
sata is the classic way. a drive that you connect with a powercable and a sata cable to the mb

void plover
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Is there major speed differences between the two?

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I’d have to see if my motherboard has a m.2 port

hasty harbor
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whats pros and cons of owning a wireless headset compart to wire

void plover
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after doing research im just gonna go with a 1tb sata ssd

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that i can tell my pc has

modest moss
modest moss
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that's my take anyway

void plover
modest moss
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got a link to it?

void plover
modest moss
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it only has a 1TB mechanical HDD in there currently?

void plover
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it has a 220ssd

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and a 1TB HDD i added

modest moss
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okay that's probably an m.2 ssd and yeah to be safe I'd probably go for a sata ssd

void plover
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thanks

modest moss
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the manual makes it sound like there's just one m.2 slot for storage

void plover
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ye i took a look inside and could tell there was atleast another sata cable i could use for something

modest moss
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you could probably yeet the wifi/bluetooth bit, but if you just want extra games storage it'll be fine on a sata

sly elk
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you can also get a pcie card thingy

modest moss
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sata ssd for games is decent enough though

sly elk
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yep. that just assumes you have a spare slot and want another nvme drive 😄

jaunty nacelle
sly elk
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you can totally get those kinda pci card adapters without rgb. I just linked that one because I have one

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ironically I never used the rgb on it

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I ran out of space on my rgb hubs 😄

snow cypress
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corsair 4000d airflow case OR the phanteks eclipse g500a?

lost python
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both a good cases. both require you to buy additional fans
i personally like phanteks more though. Have the previous version of the case and really can't find anything to complain about

dull garnet
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they look almost the same

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get the cheaper one

sharp star
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I personally like the Lian Li Lancool 216 over both

dull garnet
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samecase, besides the fans haha

sharp star
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idk I like the fans

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but I dislike how they're a size literally no one uses

sly elk
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I can only speak aesthetically but I don't like the slanted front on the phanteks case lol

snow cypress
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yea it does throw me off in a way

sharp star
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yeah

dull garnet
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i kinda like it

latent ore
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i mean stuff does

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but like

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iphone

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SUFFERING GIVE ME A HEADPHONE JACK 99% OF ALL MY STUFF IS USLESS

graceful pine
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And Bluetooth cannot be as good as wired

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There’s no way to get lossless transmission across Bluetooth

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Though there are some lossless Bluetooth prototypes out there

kindred brook
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I just got my 4TB Samsung 990 Drive

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'whats the easiest solutioin

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to trraansfer my main drive

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to my new drive

modest moss
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Wheelbarrow

kindred brook
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is that a program?

deep sapphire
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Yes

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Otherwise you could use Samsung magician if you were gonna clone it

kindred brook
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Oh there we go

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thanks Hank

modest moss
kindred brook
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DAMNIT DAD

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-IS NOT AMUSED

dull garnet
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i hope you have two nvme slots or an enclosure

kindred brook
dull garnet
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i had to go nvme -> hdd -> nvme lol

modest moss
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Oof

deep sapphire
paper tusk
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tldr: not market ready, especially with lack of public benchmarks/performance info

sly elk
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ooo

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imagine diamond glasses

paper tusk
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but has the potential to double performance from better voltage leakage prevention, and thermal management

deep sapphire
paper tusk
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8000G hewwo

deep sapphire
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I suspect AMD will use Samsung for Radeon allocation

paper tusk
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oof

sly elk
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also on the subject of the corsair 4000d, I kinda like the build quality (at least from the 5000d I poked at once) of those, but I've never tried building in one so idk how good/bad they are

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but also

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there's a couple of people in this chat (sarah for example) who build computers for customers as a business and they can tell you their favorite case!

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That's a useful piece of info to find out the pain points on a case when you're trying to quickly build a bunch of machines 😉

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but also worth thinking about whether you care about those pain points or not if you're just building your 1 computer

neon shell
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Drive it

deep sapphire
neon shell
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What car is it?

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if you can tell from this angle

sly elk
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the new Z

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iirc it's just a damn good reskin of the old Z

cerulean talon
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The Z's look so good, it's super tempting if rates wern't so stupidly high and dealer markup was reasonable.

sly elk
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plus it's made by nissan

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afaik nissan is how you pronounce chrysler in japanese

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jk lol

sharp star
sly elk
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who is NIKKE?

sly walrus
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game about butts

odd sand
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Steam hardware survey for Oct shows 31% of respondants had 32gb of ram now. Interesting.

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Although I suppose it could be explained by ppl who have better specs are more likely to agree to the survey to flex

royal forge
sharp star
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cowards

cold yacht
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Ok I think I found what is causing my pc to crash

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It’s a cooling issue

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My cpu hit 100c while under load

sharp star
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Repaste/upgrade to a new heatsink

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or both

potent arrow
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What the hell lol

cold yacht
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which is weird tbh

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and well shit turns out i dont have any paste on me

potent arrow
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You probably jostled it when you installed your ram, and now it's not making contact

sharp star
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yeah hope you have some good paste on hand- oh

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MX-4/MX-6 should do the job

potent arrow
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I have a 34g container of cryonaut on my desk LMAO

cold yacht
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7.50 for some paste

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i do probably need better system cooling in general lul

potent arrow
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What's the cooler u are usin

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Like a stock cooler or

cold yacht
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scyth fuma 2

potent arrow
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That should be fine

cold yacht
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but my tower fans are just bunch of stock fans

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yeah i think i just have 2 stock 120mm fans as my system cooling lul

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now what the odds one of the pipes couldve been cracked

odd sand
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crack pipes huh

cold yacht
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i got weird luck but good news is no cracked pipes for me

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plus its an excuse to use my laser thermometer

potent arrow
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The heatsink is reflective, that's why people use FLIRS

cold yacht
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That’s the one that’s the actual thermal camera right ?

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I got something similar that I got from harbor freight that does have a screen on it that shows heat

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Yeah I got the Ames instrument

proven oyster
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That was
Bizarre

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Out of literally nowhere, my Laptop just Harsh Stalled

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Like was gaming and hearing music, then all of a sudden the game heavily chugged, all PC interactions went down to the crawl, nothing was on high usageon the task manager

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It just... Chugged
Until i closed the laptop, and re opened

dull garnet
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sounds healthy

proven oyster
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Any potential idea what the heck was that?

void dove
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unless the system actually fully crashed and produced a crash dump

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you're shit out of luck there

proven oyster
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Bwep

void dove
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things happen, reboot, and chalk it up to random occurrence

proven oyster
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Ill blame PvP

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Can that legit just happen though?

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Just one Bad Day, for nothing?

dull garnet
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sure

proven oyster
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;X

void dove
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yes, computers are not infallible

proven oyster
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Just first time i ever seen that, which is why it felt
Strange

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I had a PC with a roulette blue screen daily, but not a PC that just chugged to f+ck out of like
A weird sneeze

void dove
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ive worked in the IT industry for over 10 years now, and supported more computers servers and systems than i can count by now, probably in the 10s of thousands.

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a single instance of a random issue, doesn't mean shit.

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if an issue repeats, regularly, then thats a problem

proven oyster
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Ill keep an eye on it

sly elk
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yea a single issue can be all sorts of things. even if it happens more than once, but once in a blue moon

void dove
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mhmm

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my computer is rock solid

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but even i get a random freeze, maybe once every 3-6 months

proven oyster
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Thank

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...This does remind me

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Of the time i somehow memory capped FFXIV

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I still dont know how

sharp star
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download more RAM

proven oyster
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Like i was doing Variant unlocks and, somehow doing that

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And maybe Fall guys?

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Just
Memory leaked

sharp star
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Memory leak has been an issue since 6.3

proven oyster
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Somehow i avoided that

dull garnet
sly elk
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They do look neat

dull garnet
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the noise figures look amazing

elfin dirge
dull garnet
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@deep sapphire are you familiar with the now defunct CompUSA? A PS2 I bought recently has a CompUSA sticker on the box owocarby

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sly elk
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ahhhh

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CompUSA

deep sapphire
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That was basically a micro center but more nation wide

neon shell
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Darn why does the cpu fan have to be so loud right after I built the computer

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Problem fixed though

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No more jet propulsion in my own home

hollow hamlet
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Oh god I haven’t seen a compusa in decades

pine thistle
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Don't ask to ask, just ask your question ^^

void plover
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bought a keyboard off amazon and it seems like i got an EU keyboard?
is there like anything i can do?

modest moss
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Send it back, unless it's an expensive one and you can and want to replace the keycaps

neon shell
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So I’m wondering what I should do with my old parts now. It was part of a prebuilt so I doubt anyone would buy it

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Thoughts?

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Should I just trash it properly and all

modest moss
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What are they

neon shell
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I don’t remember tbh. I just know, that the parts were made to fit by hp and way outdated

modest moss
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Depending on what they are you could get a budget rig running and sell it on FB to someone

neon shell
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Alright, I’ll keep that in mind

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Thanks Shue

modest moss
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There will be parents on a tight budget wanting a cheap Fortnite box for little Jimmy for xmas

neon shell
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lol

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I should sell the pc to Jeans vivsmug

wise jay
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Everytime Ive upgraded Ive given my old pc to my stepdad and his old one is now my Mother's

modest moss
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So yeah list up what you've got and what's missing and we can figure out if it's worth doing domething

neon shell
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Ok

wise jay
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I highly recommend using Pcpartpicker in the future and saving it as a parts list

modest moss
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It was a hp prebuilt

wise jay
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Its really handy knowing exactly whats in your old PCs for reselling or giving away

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oh lmao

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still wouldnt hurt

neon shell
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I’ll see if pc part picker can go back to the Bronze Age

wise jay
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ya even if its not helpful now. I recommend it going forward

neon shell
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Actually, if by chance the prebuilt is still for sale, I might be able to track it back to where I bought it

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Doubtful, but I’ll give it a shot

modest moss
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There should be a support page if you can find the model number

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If they do it like dell it might have a sticker with a service code even

frigid minnow
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Has anyone used Steamdeck to play FFXIV?

modest moss
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I only know of one regular here who does

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I'm going to do the old fav

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!faq steamdeck

opal pantherBOT
sharp star
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yeah I'd answer any questions I can but my eyes are kinda fucked. thanks Valve

potent arrow
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I had a steamdeck

frigid minnow
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Ahh I mainly was wondering if it will play fine if i hook the steamdeck into the its dock and into my 1440p monitor xD

potent arrow
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It'll be alright

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I sold mine @_@

modest moss
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is the new steamdeck just an updated screen or did they buff the specs?

potent arrow
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I don't think the specs got buffed

sharp star
sharp star
frigid minnow
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I am trying to downsize from having a giant ATX case pc and all (doing most of my work on a macos laptop) so thought I could do all my gaming on steamdeck alone

frigid minnow
potent arrow
golden stream
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I HEARD MITX OWO

sharp star
golden stream
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AND DECK OWO

potent arrow
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UWu

potent arrow
frigid minnow
# potent arrow Mini itx time bahahahahah

I have looked into it, but they get super expensive at that size haha I dont know if its needed, i rarely game a lot these days and the few games I play not sure worth spending a lot of money on a full build

golden stream
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Eh XIV on deck is fine but need some tinkering, mostly fps cap (I cap at 45fps)

potent arrow
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0_0 there you go

golden stream
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Then again linux is my water

potent arrow
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First hand, I stand corrected

sharp star
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I also cap at 45 but it's at max res on the Deck itself

golden stream
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^

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Ye

modest moss
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you could considering going PS5 for FFXIV

golden stream
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After capped the fps is p stable and I love it more than my full rig w 1660 OC

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Oh ChiakiOnDeck is great

frigid minnow
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I usually play with keyboard and mouse, so id be plugging it into the dock on my monitor etc

golden stream
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Heard peepo playing XVI on deck via Chiaki

modest moss
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PS5 can kb/m

golden stream
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Eh I play XIV on deck handheld mode tho

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Not sure if beeg screen how stable fps is

frigid minnow
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Wait a minute.. FFXIV runs on macos too no?

golden stream
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Yes

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Can

frigid minnow
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Why am I overthinking it.. XD I have a M1 Pro i use for both home and work

sharp star
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yeah, there's the official client and XIVonMac

golden stream
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Doesn't mean you SHOULD xD

frigid minnow
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Would that suffice in terms of power for it?

golden stream
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But ye can run

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Yes

frigid minnow
sharp star
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It would push a MacBook Air M1 if you go higher than 900p

golden stream
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Mostly bc it's more kind of foreign water so I have 0 experience of XIV on mac but I know linux stuff

frigid minnow
golden stream
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Then again I can use Win/linux just fine but panik on mac so uhhhh yeee playdead

frigid minnow
golden stream
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Oh it'll run good

sharp star
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It'll run much better because the Pro models have active cooling

golden stream
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^^^^^^

frigid minnow
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I would need to rebuy every expansion and such for "macos" mode i think

golden stream
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My biggest grip about macs are mostly cooling stuff and the pros having active cooling but $$$

sharp star
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You can use a Windows/Steam license for XIVonMac but there's some issues with it, I don't remember what

frigid minnow
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Hmm, okay so would running deck as a main gaming setup suffice for other games xD

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via the dock haha

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That solves ffxiv macos problem haha

golden stream
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do u know u can ctrl c ctrl v the ENTIRE gamefile from one machine to another
Yes, decade old gamebuilding

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I uh, literally copy paste XIV from one machine of mine to le deck

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Save u some download hours

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And vice versa as well bc am living on phone hotspot atm playdead

frigid minnow
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If I look at my steam games rn, i have FFXIV, GW2, RL, BaloonsTD6, CIV6, Deep Rock Galactic, im wondering if these would run fine on a steam deck via dock on a 1440p monitor (tho I guess i can limit the monitor size to 1080p)

frigid minnow
golden stream
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XIV confirmed just fine on deck (use XIVLauncher)
GW2, better ask their subreddit (I think)
Civ6 unsure, but mostly about nav and stuff
Deep Rock Galatic unsure
Can check peep on r/SteamDeck

frigid minnow
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Hmm this is giving me hope that i can just chuck this ATX case and all into storage haha

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Cut down on cables and space taken

golden stream
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until u learn about mITX mwahahahahaha

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But ye deck is nice 👌

frigid minnow
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Dont wanna over spend on a whole new system if i barely do anything on windows is some games and YT XD

golden stream
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Eh not necessary all smaller, but the motherboard and really good/niche SFF case is expensib as hecc

frigid minnow
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Yuup, from what I found around i would have to go 1000+ euros to get something small factor

golden stream
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Not that far but ye quite close

modest moss
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why don't you create a new trial account, see how XIV runs on your mac and then decide from there

frigid minnow
golden stream
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Iirc Sakaguchi plays XIV on mac?

modest moss
#

or Djura said you can use windows license with the alt launcher

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!faq launchers

opal pantherBOT
#
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Try these alternative 3rd party launchers.

For Windows and Steam

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Please read all the documentation and guides for these launchers before requesting assistance.

Do note that these programs, like ACT, are technically against TOS. Treat them like Fight Club, and don't be rude while using them.

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frigid minnow
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Is creating a new FFXIV account still a pain in the ass as it ever was? XD

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@golden stream also isnt macos based on linux? 🤔 I use linux commands all day on the terminal at work on macos

potent arrow
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Its based on Unix

modest moss
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just make an account there and click through to the mac download

golden stream
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Ala what macos is built up to

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we'd be sudo all day haha

cerulean talon
sly elk
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same on linux

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IMHO just completely IMHO I think square is unhinged trying to sell different licenses for mac users

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I get their "we have to support a launcher and have customer service specifically for mac users" angle but I'm not sure they actually deliver on it lmao

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but if you're using a mac (and I say this as someone who uses and loves macs), you've probably been fleeced for larger amounts of money before hahaha

neon shell
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Is a 60 hertz monitor bad?

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I know it's not the best, but is it still commonly used

paper tusk
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it's fine given whatever you're doing is capped at 60 fps (no frame pacing issues)

sly elk
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no? unless you want higher than 60fps in games

neon shell
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I see

paper tusk
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120hz is better but really just talking about smooth motion. it's not going to make something more or less playable (aside from cs2/cod/overwatch style twitch fps)

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(also the issue of the higher cost for a good higher refresh monitor)

neon shell
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Well my main monitor is 60 hertz, if you're wondering why I was asking. I upgraded my pc today (2060 ti) and I hope that does the trick

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I don't mind 60 fps, but I was wondering if that was the reason why I was getting lag spikes a bit in ff before upgrading

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(I've yet to try ff out yet with my new build)

sly elk
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nope

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lag spikes can be gpu or ram or slow storage or cpu or just software being janky

neon shell
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ok

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I'm fine then

sly elk
#

yea if you're playing a game and getting periodic fps drops, my first not-gaming-expert-but-familiar-with-computer-architecture guess would be you're continuously running out of ram and the system is paging out (or gpu vram and using regular ram).... something going from fast to slow

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but there are other reasons it can happen and that's how we end up with firmware updates 😄

neon shell
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yee I upgraded to 16 gig ram now

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trying to get ready for dawntrail xD

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I'll go to limsa for the true benchmark test

elfin dirge
#

How good is SSD vs a hard drive

#

And is Kingston a good brand for said drive?

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Or something like that name not sure

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Planning to replace my older hard drive today (SMART issue)

sly elk
#

or they wanted a lot of storage cheap

elfin dirge
#

Oh

sly elk
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even for upgrading an old computer that uses only sata and not m.2/nvme

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and if you have m.2 slots, https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Plus-PCIe-NAND-5000MB/dp/B0B25NXWC7 this even has a $6.25 coupon lol

Crucial P3 Plus 1TB PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD, up to 5000MB/s ...

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and $50/tb is a pretty fair impulse purchasing price for an ssd

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a decent enough 4tb is like $180

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that said, a 4tb hard drive is $80, 8tb for 109? I don't know if those are any good for desktop computer use but for sure, cheap

real edge
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those ones usually lack a significant amount of cache

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the more expensive pcie 4.0 ones have like 2-4gigs of cache at 2-4 tb

sly elk
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sure

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those should still have dram though

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at least the p3 plus

frigid minnow
frigid minnow
sly elk
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lol i'm sorry

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you'll probably have it a long time though

muted marlin
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What do you guys think?

unknown.jpg
sly elk
#

like all of their marketing for the m3 macs so far is "this is a good upgrade if you're still using an intel mac"

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and as far as I'm concerned, my 2014 macbook pro is still working fine for when I am on travel lol 😄

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I remember when a 3 year old computer was ancient history

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a model that almost came out 10 years ago still being usable seems ludicrous

neon shell
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Just get a piss toilet

paper tusk
frigid minnow
dull garnet
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Well, it's newer than ff14 ;p

void dove
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that, doesn't mean much 😛

sly elk
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lol I barely play it on my pc

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nevermind on a laptop

royal forge
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RIGHT

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NOW I GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TAE FUCK DO I MOVE MY SHIT AGAIN

sly elk
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why do you have to move again?

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-headpat-

royal forge
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i got a transfer back to my prev hospital

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so im glad

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but

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it means moving

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again

sly elk
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ahhh gg

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congrats!

royal forge
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Thanks

real edge
#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV7EMnkTsYA

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now I have a video to show to people who tell me about how 60 or enough for most things

lost python
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you mean this screen specficially?

image.png
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problem is the average casual doesnt see this in motion OR simply does not care if the game runs at 60 or 30 or 20 fps

real edge
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the video on general explains things well so I am mostly talking about the whole thing

sly elk
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the motion effects also matter

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like watching a side-to-side pan on my 34" 120hz will make me feel nauseous

old jetty
#

So question, any tips when looking for a new monitor to buy?

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Cause I'm kinda of tech ignorant on the matter

modest moss
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@real edge monitor time

dull garnet
modest moss
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this is not the place to hire help either

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try an actual dev server, I think this is a thing

real edge
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gaming? mostly browsing?

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programming, video editing, photo editing, etc

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also budget

old jetty
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Gaming, programming and video editing

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As for budget... 200-300 euros

real edge
#

ohh euros

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where are you from

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eu pricing is different from US

cold yacht
#

Idk anything that’s not Samsung

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I just hate Samsung support

real edge
modest moss
#

lol

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I was literally about to type inb4 Nhad says Gigabyte m27q

real edge
#

my samsung monitor is amazing but others have had many QC issues with it so I wouldn't recommend it lol

old jetty
#

I'm from Italy (sorry, doing some stuff on the side)

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Let me see

real edge
#

oof medditerenean

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pricing there is worse

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source: am greek

cold yacht
#

Idk why I thought grim was German

old jetty
#

Ye, I can confirm

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Prob the name Grimm

cold yacht
#

Probably, like some country around Germany

real edge
modest moss
#

yeah good is good

real edge
#

its all oled stuff

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sadly

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and its too expensive

modest moss
#

I can see on amazon.it the Samsung G5 is on a €249 black friday offer, 32" curved 1440p

cold yacht
#

I’m just using a LG ultra gear monitor

modest moss
#

if you can push the budget a little I have this and it's great

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€335

cold yacht
real edge
#

LG displays are great as well

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they have shit contrast but they are good for gaming

#

contrast is how black the blacks appear

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too low contrast means they appear grey

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but for gaming they are very good

modest moss
#

shit is a stretch, my blacks look pretty good

real edge
#

ye it varies from display to display

#

all I can go off of is what rtings and HUB have tested

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theres also the MSI G274QPX

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tho it has poor response times

cold yacht
#

Had to adjust the contrast of my monitor a little bit

dull garnet
#

your blacks in a dark room will look bad, they do on my ips screen too

cold yacht
#

Thought about replacing my secondary monitor for a monitor with better color accuracy

real edge
#

3rd link is some overall recommendations for 2023 october

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it says some LG displays as well in the third video

modest moss
old jetty
#

Alright, I'll check them out

royal forge
#

Why do people join the server and ask for stuff

#

Did the meme really give that impression?

modest moss
#

Dear Aoi please provide free medical advice

royal forge
#

Sure

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Drink coffee

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10 cups a day

cold yacht
#

Drink 0 cups of coffee

royal forge
#

Who u gonna believe, Shue, some dude who claims he has a medical degree or another dude on the internet

cold yacht
#

Coffee and caffeine has a death grip on my co workers

modest moss
#

instructions unclear; AF gone through the roof, bpm 200

royal forge
#

Means ur heart is overclocked

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👏👏

wraith agate
#

I need to put thermalpaste on my brain

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It overheats when I think too hard

dull garnet
#

puffy

deep sapphire
#

okay thats fuckin funny

deep sapphire
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@fierce cedar

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how many times has that happened

fierce cedar
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It happened a long time ago but I didn't use it at the time so I didn't pay attention

deep sapphire
#

if it happens randomly in large gaps of time I wouldnt worry that much about it. It could just be overheating so I would clean it out with some compressed air (duster) if its a fairly old laptop

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if it still happens then update your graphics drivers

fierce cedar
deep sapphire
#

gaming laptops are notoriously unreliable after a year or 2 so if you want to game on PC I suggest building a desktop or buying one

#

they can tolerate the heat generated from the graphics and processor better and tend to last much longer

fierce cedar
#

Ok thank you

modest moss
#

might be worth a DDU?

deep sapphire
#

no problem, feel free to ping me if you have further issues

sly elk
deep sapphire
#

im not gonna rule drivers right now, they said it only happens randomly and rarely

fierce cedar
#

I wish I could fix it as soon as possible

deep sapphire
#

I think its just overheating, probably clogged with a wall of dust like they usually are

sly elk
#

But it needs more stuffing

fierce cedar
#

I should probably clean it now, right?

deep sapphire
#

just blow out the vents

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if a lot of dust comes out, that should help

sly elk
#

ahh yea a lot of laptops have goofy fan designs

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I had a sony for less than a year, and one of the reasons I sold it was the blower fan was under the keyboard and setup in a way that it'd clog up after 6 months of use

#

like taking the keyboard off and blowing the fan out dropped temps and noise significantly - the laptop was overheating before lol

neon shell
#

Umm I built a new pc yesterday, but I after I pressed start on the menu screen for ff, I’m treated as a new player wtf

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Like I have to press on a dc to join

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I transferred my data and everything so I’m a bit confused

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@deep sapphire elp

deep sapphire
#

what happens when you select your server

neon shell
#

I didn’t yet because I’m too scared to override something

deep sapphire
#

you wont

neon shell
#

Oh

modest moss
#

You backed up the folder from documents on your old pc right?

neon shell
#

Yea

deep sapphire
#

did you remember to copy the gibberish folders too

neon shell
#

Ok everything is working

deep sapphire
neon shell
#

Omg I got scared

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Game why must you scare someone that panics easily

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Gross

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I thought spaghetti code was acting up ngl

deep sapphire
#

LOL

wraith agate
#

How much does that thing costs?

#

A million bucks?

sly walrus
#

more for every overpass that chops that thing off

wraith agate
#

Lmao

sly walrus
#

also this might be ai

wraith agate
#

It kinda looks AI yeah

sly elk
#

lol

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there are videos out there of models of like 3 floor motorhomes

#

that just unfold in a ton of different ways

sly elk
#

first the passenger side mirror is floating in midair

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second, the driver side mirror is on the 2nd floor

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third, the tires look weird

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also

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something looks dimensionally wrong here

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like

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the back wheel of the bus and the front wheel don't even line up

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and nobody has ever made a motorcoach chassis with a staggered front/rear like that

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or with the tag axle that far behind

wraith agate
#

Huh

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Could have fooled me

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Y'know what that means?

sly elk
#

idk

wraith agate
#

Time to scam some rich boomers by selling them this baby!

sly elk
#

lol

dull garnet
#

£119.99

sly elk
#

si si

#

that's a good deal

modest moss
cold yacht
#

pray that replacing the thermal paste will solve my issue

odd sand
#

No helipad? Roughing it.

sharp star
cold yacht
#

beter get it

sharp star
#

would you rather get Redfall?

cold yacht
#

i just dont want to buy ink

odd sand
#

Yeah I mean you got nothing to lose trying, but I feel like for a pricing error that steep, they will just cancel all the orders

void dove
#

nothing to lose by trying

#

and we've seen vendors honor pricing fuckups before

odd sand
sly elk
#

I actually have a 256wh box sitting behind my guitar, I plug some things into it whenever there's a power outage

odd sand
#

I feel like for that price, it sounds like a lot, but you try to charge a laptop and you'd get like 1 charge out of it lol

copper monolith
#

@deep sapphire if this doesn't work I'll blame u

IMG_20231120_140319.jpg
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Jk

sly elk
odd sand
#

Technically that is around 2.5 laptop batteries if you consider most are 99wh or less so they don't run into issues on planes

sly elk
#

if I assume I go into a power outage with my laptop fully charged, I can drive the lamps by my desk, and some music (regular desk speakers), and maybe something else for like 8 hours

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yep

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it's perfect for a power outage that lasts a few hours

#

but you're right, it's kinda useless lol 😄

#

it only puts out like 200w at a time so

#

but a proper like 1kw one that cann power my desktop for a while? those are like $1500 or something idk

odd sand
#

I have a Cyberpower 1500VA which is supposedly 900W and the batteries are 12V/9Ah

#

So that's what? 144wh then?

sly elk
#

so it'll power your computer for about 5 mins 😄

deep sapphire
#

What an American

copper monolith
sly elk
#

tbh the $1000 lifepo4 units are probably a 'better investment' - they can actually be plugged in and used like a UPS, too

odd sand
#

Sure, it simply gives me enough time to save and shut down and then the only draw on it after that is the router/modem

sly elk
#

and from what I gather they can last like 10 years

#

which would be a miracle for a regular lead acid ups

odd sand
#

Yeah next year will be 5 years for mine, so I probably have to look for replacement batteries then

sly elk
#

that you're still on the original batteries 5 years in is impressive af

odd sand
#

4 years atm. 5 years next summer or fall I think.

#

I assume if it needs replacing it will beep at me or something?

dull garnet
#

The patriots...

neon shell
#

Did you replace it and did it come like that

copper monolith
neon shell
copper monolith
#

Typewriter keycaps

old jetty
#

quick question

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I don't know about ram and MHz, so I wanted to ask what MHz is generally good for a ddr4 ram

sharp star
#

AMD or Intel?

old jetty
#

uhm, I have an Intel CPU, if you need I can check which one

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I have already 2 stick of 8gb each of DDR4 Corsair VENGEANCE 3200 MHz and my CPU is an Intel® CoreTM i5-10400F

sharp star
#

3200-3600 should be fine

old jetty
#

I found a deal for 2 stick of 16 gb of the same RAM but with 3600 MHz

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like, for 80 euros

sharp star
#

RAM speed affects AMD non-X3D more though

sly elk
#

that's fine

sly elk
old jetty
sharp star
#

still fine

old jetty
sly elk
#

what's the ram model or whatever? got a link?

old jetty
#

https://www.amazon.it/Corsair-Vengeance-memoria-prestazioni-ottimizzato/dp/B082DGZJ9C/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=R37Ou&content-id=amzn1.sym.f204f637-681f-4105-912b-10956c474b0a&pf_rd_p=f204f637-681f-4105-912b-10956c474b0a&pf_rd_r=MBC18KQAMJ5M89TWZH7P&pd_rd_wg=DydkW&pd_rd_r=7677b78d-eb2b-460c-93da-7be24e7bd536&ref_=pd_gw_dealz_cs&th=1

Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600 MHz C18, kit ...

Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3600 MHz C18, kit di memoria desktop ad alte prestazioni (AMD ottimizzato) - Nero

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CMH32GX4M2Z3600C18 this should be the model

sly elk
#

that's cl18 ram then

#

any idea what you have right now? for sake of comparing?

#

i'm pretty sure it's more than fine though 🙂

old jetty
#

I'm not sure, but should be these ones
CMK16GX4M2E3200C16

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(so 1 stick of 8 GB, 3200 MHz)

sly elk
#

ohh

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are you planning to use both?

#

and do you currently use xmp or whatever to oc the ram?

old jetty
#

Well, it is 2 sticks of 8gb each, so 16 in total, and ye, I was planning to switch them for 2 stick of 16 gb

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As xmp, I don't think I have it enabled, but I didn't configure the pc, so I can't say for sure

sly elk
#

oh ok

#

in any case, that ram is totally fine

old jetty
#

to clarify, the new one or the old one I have?

sly elk
#

both

#

you should be able to use them together as well, if you're not overclocking it won't affect performance. If you were, you would end up with the ram operating at whatever the slowest set does

old jetty
#

alright, thank you a lot

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oh, ye, the other - last thing - as far as ssd storage goes, someone I know reccomended a 980 PRO SSD NVme M.2, is that good?

sly elk
#

that particular ssd had firmware issues for a while, I believe. I also think they were resolved.

sharp star
#

It requires a firmware update last I heard but otherwise it's fine; personally I avoid Samsung like the plague

sly elk
#

yea I was really disappointed with the 980 series. Prior to that they were my go-to SSD brand

#

going back a few years I felt like they were everyone's go-to brand for a quality reliable ssd haha

sharp star
#

I like Crucial's stuff nowadays

sly elk
#

same

#

all my new ones are p5 plus (pcie 4.0) or p3 plus (pcie 3.0)

sharp star
#

they're reliable, they get shit done, even if the P5 Plus doesn't hit top speeds

sly elk
#

I think the WD SSDs are fine, too

#

though I'm not sure which models exactly

#

goodnight ^^

sharp star
old jetty
#

ye, don't have that one here sadly

sharp star
#

P5 Plus?

old jetty
#

oh, I meant the ssd you posted

sharp star
#

The SN850X is also good

old jetty
#

also prob a stupid question, but those are external ssd, ye?

sharp star
#

Internal

old jetty
#

kk

wise jay
#

ya I got the SN850X

old jetty
# sharp star P5 Plus?

oh, wait, is it this one?
https://www.amazon.it/Crucial-Plus-CT1000P5PSSD8-Interno-Fino-6600MB/dp/B098WL46RS/ref=sr_1_5?__mk_it_IT=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=1V6B91I7Z3JQ7&keywords=ssd+nvme+gen+4&qid=1700475765&sprefix=ssd+nvme+gen+4%2Caps%2C141&sr=8-5

Crucial P5 Plus 1TB SSD di Gioco Interno M.2 PCIe Gen4 NVMe - Fino ...

Sei pronto per prestazioni di nuova generazione? L'SSD Crucial P5 Plus offre una notevole velocità e protezione dei dati con letture sequenziali fino a 6600MB/s per un'elaborazione trasformativa. Progettato da Micron con la più recente tecnologia Gen4 NVMe, Crucial P5 Plus include funzionalità av...

real edge
sharp star
#

Yep, it's a bit slower than most Gen 4 M.2 drives but it'll do

#

It won't make much of a difference in gaming

dull garnet
real edge
#

cl16 costs 79euro in my country

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for 32gigs

dull garnet
#

All the cheaper ram I've seen here is C18

old jetty
#

tbf I can't find them at all, so

real edge
#

try this

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see if it exists in your country

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costs 30euro more over there

#

same kit

old jetty
#

uhm...

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can't find if it is c16 tough

sharp star
#

that's CL18

real edge
#

anyways cl18 to cl16 is like

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minmaxing

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not worth 30 more euro

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I did not expect such a premium

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since in my country which is also medditerenean it costs 80

old jetty
#

welcome to Italy I guess

real edge
#

do you have a price aggregator site?

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like skroutz or whatever

#

where you can insert the name of a product and it shows you the price of the product on many different stores

#

try putting this in there if you have such a site

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F4-3600C16D-32GVKC

old jetty
#

think so, ye, but also I dunno how trust worthy other website outside amazon are (also don't have the same return policy)

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Like, I found one for 86 euros

real edge
#

well

#

in the EU

#

you have 14 day return policy

#

and 2year warranty minimum

#

by law

#

check store policy as well

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you should be fine I've never gotten a dud before here and if you do you can do a chargeback via your bank and you will most likely win it

#

if its a dud and they refuse to co-operate

#

you should have a consumer protection agency there as well

#

you are well protected in the EU from online purchase fraud

old jetty
#

mhm-thanks

#

nevermind, it is out of stock

#

so ye, I'll just get the cl18 ones I guess

lost python
#

tl;dr there is literally a script running in the background to add a 5s delay

real edge
#

videos load faster

#

but yea

#

google is gonna get sued to oblivion at this rate

#

you cannot put artificial roadblocks to your competitors

#

its against the law

#

so is spying on users addons on their browser

old jetty
#

ok, last question for real this time, but are samsung Odyssey g5 monitor good? Cause rn I found that that's on the 210 euros, and then there is also the Gigabyte G27Q, which is 290 euros

#

oh, and also an MSI one

real edge
#

stick with what the videos told you

#

the odyssey g5 is not good

#

and the g27q is just a worse version of the M27Q

lost python
lost python
#

everything on paper is good but in reality its ass

#

every once in a while some random user gets a lucky monitor that doesnt or barely has issues but the majority is left with scanlines, firehazard power brick, random signal losses and no dedicated button to turn of the monitor so you have to wait the 10-20 seconds until the monitor realizes there is no longer a signal and then you have 3 seconds to open the menu and turn it off or else it goes to standby

real edge
lost python
#

i have like a 50/50 chance of the monitor crying that there is no signal and going into standby mode when entering a fullscreen game, despite being able to see

old jetty
#

ye, I assumed as much by reading reviews too

#

seemed to good to be true

real edge
#

basically

#

samsung is amazing when it works

#

but marred with QC issues

#

that you may or may not have

#

its a gamble

#

not worth taking for the price

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my model works and its the best LCD on the market but other people have numerous problems

dull garnet
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I noticed YouTube acting funny this weekend

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Ublock hasn't been updated on firefox for a bit

lost python
# real edge that you may or may not have

and to highlight how the chances are: i had 3 different monitors. all 3 had issues to varying degree and i am currently still with the one that has the least issues

real edge
old jetty
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btw I meant to ask, out of curiosity, is having IPS bad?

real edge
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under filter lists

old jetty
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well, not bad, just not preferable

real edge
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and purge --> update

real edge
royal forge
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What happened to the guy who was asking to pay someone to pay to help with their bot

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Then didnt pay em

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After shue said no paying

real edge
# old jetty well, not bad, just not preferable

VA other than samsung: Shit response times, decent color accuracy, amazing blacks
IPS: Good Response Times, Good Color Accuracy, Garbage Blacks
TN: Top-tier Response Times, Bad Color Accuracy, Bad Blacks

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it depends on what you want

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what I recommended you was all IPS

royal forge
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I want the light beamed directly into my brain

real edge
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because the technology is cheap and has advanced far enough to where models are good on average even on the cheap

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other than blacks

old jetty
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ah, I see

real edge
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so it works for most users

old jetty
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makes sense

royal forge
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Hi Nhad

real edge
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see the 3 videos and make your decision based on your local pricing

real edge
royal forge
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Lmao

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Thats kinda hilarious

old jetty
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my current monitor is an IPS too, and I'm fine with those blacks, so thank you (also all those are like over 400 euros here I think, but I need to double check)

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actually, the msi isn't that bad

dull garnet
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The blacks are only really noticeable if the whole screen is black/dark and in a dark room

real edge
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buy it locally from whatever retailer the price aggregator tells you

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amazon italy is very expensive

lost python
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id honestly put TN even below IPS for blacks because all i have had were worse in that regard

dull garnet
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Of course TN is worse

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You need dimming zones or an oled to get true blacks

real edge
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mhm

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my G7 has excellent blacks tho, night and day difference from my old displays

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defo noticeable

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but oled is far more

dull garnet
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Dimming zones are funny though, for example when there's a tiny logo on a black loading screen on my Sony TV it creates this gross glow effect

lost python
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that only happens when you dont have enough dimming zones or a shitty software solution paired with them

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i bought a new hisense u8k recently and its pretty great in that regard. usually have dimming set to medium

dull garnet
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Yeah my Sony is older now

lost python
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the only glow issue i am having is because the TV is so damn bright in HDR, white UI elements on black backgrounds shine bright like a flashlight haha

dull garnet
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Only has like 48 zones

lost python
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oh wow

inland mauve
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god i am so tempted to buy an ultrawide monitor

wise jay
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do it

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join us

inland mauve
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but the power alone would cost €100 per year

lost python
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what

inland mauve
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this one

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with HDR, it consumes 73 kWh per 1000 hours

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my estimate is that I have my monitor turned on for about 10 hours per day

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if I take the price of a kWh of power in the Netherlands over 365.25 days

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it would cost me almost €100

void dove
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100, over an entire year.

inland mauve
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the monitor itself is also expensive

lost python
old jetty
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out of curiosity, I have a question, are 27 inch monitor better than 24 inches, or is it a matter of personal preference?

wraith agate
inland mauve
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listen I know that the actual price will come out under that but with how expensive power is getting (and the fact that I have to share the bill with someone else) it's something I need to consider before making a purchase like this

void dove
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like most products, just one thing doesn't make or break said product.

old jetty
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fair enough

lost python
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because all of these eat multiple times more energy than running your monitor for 10h a day

void dove
inland mauve
void dove
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some could have more efficient power circuitry for all you know

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and 100 per year, is barely anything, yea id be looking at the stuff that actually chews through power

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proper appliances, fridge, washer, dryer, microwave, etc

old jetty
void dove
lost python
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hell even your vacuum cleaner eats more energy for one cleaning session than multiple hours of your monitor running

void dove
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thats NOT a thing

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not to be harsh, but stop listening to that friend.

umbral moss
wise jay
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ya mine says it runs at 80 watts peak but im at 15 percent brightness and not alot of games I play benefit from hdr so its off for the most part

inland mauve
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another issue is that I'm not sure my monitor stand can fit it

void dove
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that makes literally zero sense

umbral moss
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Dishwashers, vacuum cleaners, air conditioners

old jetty
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oh, he meant older games have problem displaying at that resolution, to clarify

void dove
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its a physical size

inland mauve
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but I probably don't need secondary monitors as much with a screen that big

lost python
void dove
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so again, makes no sense

wise jay
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monitor size and resolution are 2 entirely different things

old jetty
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oh, ye, to clarify, I meant 27 inches with 2k resolution, that was my bad

void dove
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you can have a 27 inch, at 1440p, or a 27 at 1080p

umbral moss
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Wrong, you can always use more monitor real estate pogianger

void dove
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this really isn't a problem

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i play OLD games frequently

old jetty
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but wouldn't it look worse on a bigger monitor then 2think

void dove
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and have zero issues on a 1440p 27 inch

real edge
lost python
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the only games that have an issue with resolutions are usually extremely old games that simply existed before higher resolutions were a thing

real edge
wise jay
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ya I get the weirdest old shit to work on my ultrawide

umbral moss
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I'm thinking of getting one of those 27" 1440/360 monitors and moving my 1440/144 to second screen status

void dove
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so again, no

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running at non-native would blur the pixels a bit

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but this all REALLY depends on the game

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is the game so old that 1080p also doesn't work?

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or even wide screen doesn't workl

umbral moss
void dove
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then you will probably still be blurred

wise jay
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27 is a fairly normal size. If you were looking at 30+ inches and 1080p youd start to notice it looking kind of off

lost python
void dove
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considering screen size and resolution for retro gaming, is really for someone who looks at the pixels one by one, its overkill