technology-discussion

[potent arrow]

run spymark

for a bit see if it trips

if not gpu is fine

then swap known working gpu back into secondary rig, toss in the cpu if you can. Run cpu test bench of your choosing for a bit

no trip

[lament pine]

Oh god if the gpu is damaged I'll just die

[potent arrow]

then its the motherboard

thats why i do it first : )

GPU and Mobo are prime suspects for me

[lament pine]

Spouse thinks its mobo too

But idk what replacing that entails

[potent arrow]

wdym

just slam it in

[glossy ravine]

Holy shit? This seems almost too good to be true. 6750 XT for half the going price?

[potent arrow]

If you want a decent budget GPU, rx6600 always sits at a decent price

6750 XT is faster, but might be costlier

[modest moss]

is that sold by amazon or a jank 3rd party?

[potent arrow]

Looks like sapphire direct

[dull garnet]

Buy it

Buy many

[potent arrow]

Cop if you want ig

[glossy ravine]

Sold by LiChaDe-USA. I can return it until Jan 31st. '24

[potent arrow]

Uh

Sus

[modest moss]

link it

[glossy ravine]

https://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-11318-03-20G-Radeon-Gaming-Graphics/dp/B09ZZP1J5W?ref_=ast_sto_dp

[modest moss]

2 ratings

price less than 50%

gg

[glossy ravine]

Yeah. Red flag

[deep sapphire]

Yeah plus it doesn’t ship for almost an entire month

And it’s not backed by Amazon

Fuck that

[glossy ravine]

"If it's too good to be true, it probably is."

[deep sapphire]

Sadly

[modest moss]

it comes with a complimentary massive headache

[glossy ravine]

With an extra side of scam.

[deep sapphire]

Sometimes you do find a good deal though which is clutch cause mine is shot

[glossy ravine]

I type in 6750 XT. First result is an RX 580. lmao

[dull garnet]

Yeah Amazon is a shit show

[potent arrow]

Idk why anyone bothers shopping on amazon for pc parts unlesss you its last resort

[dull garnet]

You'll find the same product twice with different prices lol

[glossy ravine]

I mean. 1. The speed of delivery. 2. You can find some decent deals at times

[dull garnet]

Amazon usually price CPUs cheapest over here

[potent arrow]

ok but lets be fair, ac delco is such a meme of a company that a knockoff would be better

[deep sapphire]

Hard disagree with that

[potent arrow]

:#

[glossy ravine]

I got my Ryzen 7 5800X3D from them for like... 400 last year?

[potent arrow]

shiturself delco nerd

[deep sapphire]

[dull garnet]

Mine was £265 earlier this year

[glossy ravine]

Lmaooo

[dull garnet]

Other places still have it at 330

[glossy ravine]

Granted I bought mine Dec. of last year

[potent arrow]

Im a whore that buys direct or from newegg lmao. Amazon just seems like a headache to deal with

[glossy ravine]

That and Amazon offers stuff like 6 equal payments and such. Makes big ticket items affordable.

Depends on if it's sold directly from Amazon

Looking on Newegg for PSUs. Why on Hydaelyn's Blue Star would you need a 2000 Watt PSU.

[dull garnet]

You own a modern intel cpu

[glossy ravine]

I'm team red. So I wouldn't understand

[modest moss]

multiple 4090s

[deep sapphire]

team red more like team FRED

[modest moss]

nerds like my mate running AI at home

[lost python]

team fred looks rad

https://tenor.com/view/off-work-tgif-fred-flintstone-payday-yabba-dabba-doo-gif-14204698

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/cpu-cpu-kill-gif-22236310

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/geforce-gif-26172654

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssL1DA_K0sI found it

[deep sapphire]

LMAO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZGiBOZkI5w

UH OH

CLICK BAIT GUY SWITCHED BACK

[real edge]

idk how Jayz has so many subs tbh

idk it feels like he is an old timer who just never caught up with the new folk

[glossy ravine]

At this point, Aside from Austin Evan's "How to build a PC" and UFD Tech, I don't know any tech-tubers that aren't pulling nonsense like this

[real edge]

he doesn't have any new info, he doesn't do any good reviews like gamersnexus or hub

[glossy ravine]

(I follow UFD for the Tech news. Listen to it while I consume my bret-fast.)

[dull garnet]

why i (a millionaire) changed from one $500 cpu to another

god its just him talking into a camera for 17 minutes

who cares

[glossy ravine]

"Why I swapped from high end CPU to another high end CPU that has marginal performance differences."

[odd sand]

It's amazing how they talk about how revolutionary AWS was and how much money it makes for them. And yet their main website is dogshit and the search is worthless as you said

You get better results using google to search them lol

site:amazon.com blah

[glossy ravine]

They have virtually a blank check, and they cant have a decent database

[odd sand]

I mean, the channel is called his two cents /s

[lost python]

entertainment youtube gets much more attention that dry facts

its not a place you go for the most extensive and accurate benchmarks. its a place you go to if you want entertainment

and maybe a side of information

[odd sand]

mfw coworkers all like I dunno what you're looking for to put in that ticket, but I see logs

everything is in the ticket explaining it, including a spreadsheet of what I can and can't see being logged from each host

well I don't have the ticket up can you just tell me what you need

ohhh well they probably need to install the windows app that provides those logs then
Yes, thank you for that amazing insight. Which I wrote in the ticket a month ago that if we're not seeing it, it's probably bc they don't have the app installed...

[lost python]

[glossy ravine]

Friend agreed to taking my old graphics card. (5600 XT.) Bc i'll be upgrading to the 6750 XT. It will still run the games they want just fine and she saves 400 bucks.

Total price of the build is sitting at 864.83

[wise jay]

nice

[glossy ravine]

It Also includes KB+M and a monitor like requested. All in all. I'm pretty happy with this.

[glossy ravine]

As for myself. Has anyone heard good/bad things about Peladn? They are selling the 6750 XT for 20 USD cheaper than everyone else on Newegg. I've not heard of them before and I'm not sure.

Seeing mixed things in reviews. I'll just deal with the extra 20 dollars and go with MSI. I know they wont screw me over.

Yeehaw.

[kindred brook]

wait I thought the 14900k is basically rebranded 13900k

[deep sapphire]

it is

200 MHz boost to clock thats about it

[wide hill]

did he quit amd??

[deep sapphire]

I barely watched it ngl LOL

people in comments saying he having issues with 4 dimms but like both intel and AMD have issues with DDR5

[umbral moss]

Wasn't the point of DDR5 to offload some power circuitry to the dimm itself, rather than the board?

How are boards struggling so much with fully loaded dimm arrays?

[paper tusk]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/ddr5-deep-dive-kingston-in-interview-about-new-memory-standard-and-examples-from-the-practice/3/

from 2021

[odd sand]

What I've read is if you want high solid clocks you want a board that only has 2 dimm slots on it

Some of those advertise up to 7200 or even 8000

[cold yacht]

thats like 6-7 grand

[deep sapphire]

BASED

[latent ore]

howd i end up here?

[sly elk]

i'm running 64gb (4x16) at 6000 but I admit it takes a while to boot lol

it does run reliably though

[modest moss]

simping for Hank

[latent ore]

TRUE

[wraith agate]

To think this super gaming computer is trumped now by my Samsung Galaxy Mini even, probably

[sly walrus]

noclip

[cerulean talon]

The slot count doesn't matter, but the dimm count does. 2 in a 4 is the same as 2 in a 2.

The issue is how they're wired to the CPU.

[sly elk]

nah they shouldn't only come with 2 dimm slots, that's stupid

really stupid

amd and intel need to improve their bullshit memory controllers

because what if I want an actual amount of ram

like 64, 128, 256, 384gb?

those bullshit memory controllers can't handle dual rank properly either

so 2x64 will have issues OCing as well

and why do you need to OC your ram like that?

how big of a performance difference do you get?

I am under the impression the boards/cpus can't properly handle more than 128

but I might be wrong lol

asus advertises 192gb max

it's one of those disappointing things about pro vs consumer tech these days

back in the day, if you wanted the best, you bought the best, and there was no difference

the best was the best

now the best is hyper-segmented

like you can get a great screen with high refresh rate and high dynamic range... but meh color accuracy and low resolution

or you can get great color accuracy and high res, but poor dynamic range and 60hz

or you can get a xeon that has 23985235 cores and costs $32958235

or you can get a processor with fast single-core performance

lol I think x99 was the end of the reasonable high end do-it-all build

[cerulean talon]

Just use epycs nods

[sly elk]

as far as I'm concerned, the 7800x3d I bought was a good spiritual successor to the 9700k I used to have in here lol

though, 8 cores and 16 threads is a looot better

the 9700k only had 6 cores, period, no hyperthreading

and it reared its ugly head pretty quick

so far this has been great lol

I may have been too mean saying 'spiritual successor' but the whole "oh it's the fastest gaming cpu but sucks at everything else" edge on benchmarks

the 9700k also kinda had that title at the time (briefly)

it was more like "why buy a 9700k when you can get an 8700k or a 9900k"

ah well, doesn't matter 😄

[sly elk]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2Z8DS49 if anyone wants a $46 quadcast lol

geez they are not cheap in canada huh

first combo i've seen with decent ram though

[void dove]

google:
IEC C13 to 30A

you kinda need to know the specs to find something that specific

PSU power cables are generic used for a lot of things,

and are IEC C13 connector at the appliance side

now wahtever your 30 amp plug is, youll have to figure out that Spec and find a cable that goes from a IEC C13 to that spec

though a general search like mine above, may get you what you want, just, be very careful on non-standard power outlets and making sure the cables are up to spec

so you dont, injure yourself or blow up a computer

first result has a number of different 30A plugs, so no idea which you need.
https://www.pduwhips.com/category/100-nema-30-amp-locking-power-cords.aspx

[umbral moss]

first of all, why do you need a 30A service for your PC sarah 2

[wraith agate]

Hot wire the breaker

What's the worst that can happen? Your house goes up in flames?

[wise jay]

shove a roll of pennies in there

[sharp star]

oh btw does anyone live near a Micro Center https://www.microcenter.com/product/674503/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-raphael-am5-42ghz-8-core-boxed-processor-heatsink-not-included?storeID=115

[paper tusk]

[dull garnet]

dang

[glossy ravine]

Motherboard and PSU for friend's build ordered. Used Newegg bc of the BF protection policy, where we will automagically refunded the difference if said purchased item goes on a deeper discount.

Being pro-consumer makes people want to give you money, imagine that.

[sly elk]

that's a low price!

i paid 449 for mine lmao

[lost python]

Fuck me that's cheaper than the 5800x3d is here

[compact pine]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-roblox-huh-cat-huh-cat-saying-huh-gif-27625167

[modest moss]

what the fuck

3x msrp?

[severe flax]

Do you guys think that this is good enough to host a 24/7 server of games like say, Project Zomboid or Minecraft? https://a.co/d/9SRanW4

[sly elk]

i would guess that car isn't actually for sale

and that's a "I want to keep this car unless someone's willing to pay an insane amount of money for it" window sticker

we often get phone calls from realtors asking if we want to sell our house and I just give them an insane number like that lol

"no but if you wanna pay a million bucks for it I might consider that offer"

I've stopped answering those calls because they call a lot

[modest moss]

It's a dealer though

[glossy ravine]

Shout out to Samsung for having the most half baked "find my lost" thing imaginable.

With the really small earbuds they sell, (for 220 usd) they have a way to track those earbuds to the last location they were connected to. Unless they are in its charging case in which scenario. You're fucked because said case isn't trackable apparently.

I'm finding this out the hard way bc I can't remember where I put mine.

[minor hollow]

Yeah

That's samsung

[dull garnet]

stop giving samsung money

[minor hollow]

Dealers do that too

I remember my friends parked car got totaled by a drink driver

So i drove him around to some dealerships

[glossy ravine]

I wasn't aware Samsung was such a bad company lmao.

[dull garnet]

flash memory? sure. otherwise nah

[glossy ravine]

The S23 Ultra, aside from being a bit more expensive than I'd liked, is a really nice, premium phone.

[wise jay]

never buy a samsung fridge or tv

[glossy ravine]

Yeah, I haven't. Haven't had the need to.

[minor hollow]

He was looking for a rav4 electric and they asked for $200k for a $40k baseline car

They only had one and it was on hold

[sly elk]

heheh google asking eu to force apple to open up imessage and... a reddit post of people largely defending apple's 'right' to have a proprietary messaging system. Pretty funny. 😄

[paper tusk]

i would probably pass on that for an elitedesk/thinkcentre or similar minipc (so can get 4c/8t cpu at least)

[sharp star]

gotta love Windows for being such a bloated, buggy piece of shit

had to disable AMD ftpm just to stop the slideshows

why not both

[sly elk]

i'd still blame windows 😄

[odd sand]

I've had a few amd cpus and gpus in the past, but they definitely have a penchant for being buggy pos

And if there is going to be glitchy shit, 90% of the time it's amd heh. If for no other reason than they were the smaller market share so stuff wasn't optimized for them

[sly elk]

heh, it makes sense actually

another way to look at it is ms only cares about their corporate customers

and corporate customers generally don't use amd stuff

[astral ridge]

Holy crap! That dodge is 1025 HP and (claims to have) - Worlds Quickest 0-60 Production Car at 1.66 Seconds

[umbral moss]

More that Intel pays developers to optimize for Intel uarch, or more commonly, undercut AMD performance so customers are "guided" towards Intel products

That's why synthetic benchmarking stopped being relevant, everyone had a special Intel code path that looked great in benchmarking but the real performance was comparable or worse than amd

[real edge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UonGoqrAdMA

damn

[umbral moss]

One step closer to just looking out the window

[real edge]

1.59 for an lcd with that low ghosting is actually very impressive

[graceful pine]

540hz

Why

Surely we’re getting excessive

50-90hz is roughly what the limit on human vision is believed to be

Though going a bit higher will provide some benefits

But 540

[real edge]

50-90 is not the limit at all

50 is anything but the limit

big difference between 60 and 144

144 to 240 there is a difference as well, albeit smaller

[graceful pine]

https://www.healthline.com/health/human-eye-fps#:~:text=In the past%2C experts maintained,see topped out around 60.

50-90 is generally the accepted rate but some studies are questioning whether it’s higher

[cold yacht]

The human eye n brain is weird

[graceful pine]

540 is beyond the maximum suggested by any study

[cold yacht]

It does a lot of smooth things out

[graceful pine]

Going above what we can perceive will smooth things out

But 540 that’s just excessive

[cold yacht]

How the brain will make things up so the vision is consistent

Or how the brain will automatically color correct your vision except when you’re color blind

[dull garnet]

The human brain cannot comprehend more than 24 frames /s

[graceful pine]

We cannot comprehend anything more than 50-90 but faster helps smooth things out a bit

[cold yacht]

For non interactive motion a lot of things above 24 frames is weird

Watching a movie in 60fps is nasty

[lost python]

i have seen the asus 540hz monitor irl actually and you definitely still notice a difference. its not a giant difference but its noticeable
but then again, just like with hearing, tasting etc. the eye too has to be trained to really notice it

[graceful pine]

24-30 works great in movies and tv

[graceful pine]

There’s also gotta be a double blind aspect

Because placebo’s are a thing

[lost python]

thats true

asus rog has regular pop up booths at local electronic stores here where they showcase this stuff and do small events like that

[graceful pine]

The fastest thing I know we can comprehend is 20khz sound in young people

[cold yacht]

https://youtu.be/ElAGnbsQPVE?si=Pv7_CE_TWrYsoecj

[graceful pine]

Sound is a whole nother thing

[cold yacht]

60 fps looks nasty

[graceful pine]

We have a bunch of tiny hair’s in our cochlea that register vibrations

Our ear drums transfer the vibration to bones that transfer it to the cochlea

And the hairs are specific lengths depending on the frequency they pick up

We lose our higher frequencies first because those get damaged first

[lost python]

lol

no wonder it looks like ass when its interpolated

Made in Sony Vegas Pro 15 with the Twixtor Pro plugin to render new frames.
the plugin that is infamous for adding a ton of artifacts and weird jankyness to videos

[graceful pine]

Granted we just use 24 in movies anyway

So anything above that is weird usually

[lost python]

also the reason why 24fps works so well is also because usual TVs are slow enough to essentially add their own form of motionblur to it.
on OLED its a known issue that if you dont use artificial smootheners, usual media looks janky and choppy as hell

[cold yacht]

One of my buddies tvs I had to turn off interpolation for him

[real edge]

it makes me wonder why I can see and notice a clear difference between 60, 144 and 240

[lost python]

because you trained your eye

[graceful pine]

Could be a placebo as well

And hz above our limit smooth out images

[cold yacht]

But yeah 24fps recorded adds in the motion blur we naturally have

[graceful pine]

So 60 to 120/144 is noticeable

I never notice anything above 60 personally

[cold yacht]

It’s just looks bad in games cause the interaction and two it’s multiples images being generated in that moment

Especially if there’s dis-sync happening

[lost python]

im at the point where i honestly dont feel comfortable with only 60fps in games anymore. there are very very few exceptions

[cold yacht]

I’m chill with 60fps but that’s because I play a lot of fighting games and they’re usually cap at 60 now

[graceful pine]

I usually cap everything at 60

[lost python]

i mean, if you cap at 60 anyway then i can see why you cant really see the difference to higher hz

[graceful pine]

I’ve uncapped as well

I just never noticed anything

[lost python]

after i used my 144hz, and now my 240hz screen for a while, going back to 60hz felt extremely off

[cold yacht]

I can only see a slight difference between 60 and 144 but it’s not something that’s ruined for me

[lost python]

which is why i prefer to work at home too, because in the office we only have 60hz screens

[graceful pine]

144 should be noticeable because it runs faster than our brains should be able to see

[cold yacht]

Cause like I usually try to keep frames consistent

[graceful pine]

And that smooths some stuff out

But I never really noticed it so I just cap at 60

[lost python]

being comfy at 60 is just a boon anyway, because with the way things are going i doubt we will really go much beyond the native 60fps in the future

everything will be artificially enhanced because big numbers good and nobody cares about how AI frames actuall feel in actual gameplay

[graceful pine]

There’s a lot of things where the big numbers are the max they can be

4k is the best resolution we can get

[lost python]

for now its the best res we can get

[graceful pine]

Sampling rate for music 48k is almost always the best for listening

[cold yacht]

I’m just waiting for the day some idiot makes a mod for sf6 that uncaps fps online which ruins online play

[graceful pine]

The best our eyes can see

[lost python]

what

thats simply not true

[graceful pine]

The pixels are too small for our eyes

[lost python]

no they arent. thats not even something you can say like that without factoring in the size of the screen

[graceful pine]

Higher rates are useful in production for more flexibility in tempo modulation

nyquist law states the highest frequency we want to capture the sampling rate has to be twice that

[cold yacht]

Only time 8k is useful is when working on art or media

[graceful pine]

Our max pitch is 20k

[cold yacht]

8k is not really for consuming media

[graceful pine]

Now going a bit above is useful for anti aliasing

So that’s why 44k/48k is used for music listening

[lost python]

thats kinda the same thing people said about 1080p when it was the hot new thing and anything above that

[cold yacht]

8k gonna be long while til it’s for consumer level instead of artist level

[lost python]

the only reason why 8k is not viable is because we just dont have the technology behind it to make it viable yet

ofc

[graceful pine]

Most people don’t even use 4k

I just use 1440

[cold yacht]

Though the 6k Pro Display from Apple is beautiful

[lost python]

on PCs maybe, but pretty much every standard TV sold in the past years has been a 4k tv

and id argue that the TV market is a lot bigger than the pc gaming market

[cold yacht]

Been using one in my campus photo lab for projects

Tv market is bigger

It’s why 4k tv are cheaper than 4k monitors

I can go to Best Buy rn and get a $200 4k smart tv

A monitor I’m looking at $200-$600 depending on refresh rate

[royal forge]

My room has a single power outlet

I need 4 for my internet and pc

I have a 5 plug extension and another 4 plug one

Time to daisy chain i guess

[lost python]

just buy a proper, bigger one

and make sure you dont overload it or its literally a fire hazard

[royal forge]

i guess so

all the brands here are..

just rando brands

haha

actually, i only have these two because the previous one i bought locally short circuited and exploded

[inland mauve]

there are special plug extensions with built-in breakers

that help protect against power surges

[royal forge]

i wish there were those here

well..

maybe i'll go into town to buy

THREE FUCKING HOURS AWAY

[inland mauve]

you don't need them but they won't hurt afaik

I dunno how stable the power supply is where you live

if it fluctuates often then it might not be a bad investment

[odd sand]

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-QN75QN800BFXZA-Quantum-Additional-Coverage/dp/B09TMWRCV6/

Remember to sit back at least 3.4m from it /s

Also hope you like 5fps

[graceful pine]

I don’t have a tv anyway

I never watch any shows really

[umbral moss]

Gril gave me the blessing to resurrect my poor tower

Going to correct a shit load of design mistakes I made back in 2013 and never bothered to fix

[odd sand]

I have a TV to watch animus on and YT

[sly elk]

kinda like MS bending over backwards for game devs

[graceful pine]

So ripping everything out and starting over

[glacial valley]

Anyone here using their Steam Deck in desktop mode to play FFXIV? Wondering what kind of performance you're experiencing. Would you say it's playable above the decks native resolution?

[modest moss]

I would join the discord linked in this faq

!faq steamdeck

[opal panther]

Steam Deck Guide and Support

For a guide on how to use XIVLauncher with Steam Deck, please see https://goatcorp.github.io/faq/steamdeck

For further advice there is a Linux/Steam Deck channel on the goatcorp Discord

https://discord.com/invite/yp6jB2FvpR

[modest moss]

you should find more steam deck users there

it's not super common in this chat

[glacial valley]

Much appreciated.

[modest moss]

good luck

[deep sapphire]

remember that dude that was saying ffxiv was spiking his fans on his 4090 to 100 percent

it started happening to me again, I discovered it was chrome having hardware acceleration on

I turned it off and my fans shut up

I hate hardware accel it always fucks with games

[modest moss]

gg chrome, shit browser

[sharp star]

https://www.chiphell.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2559840

so we're going to Ryzen 9000 for Zen 5 now?

[modest moss]

midlife crisis tape

[odd sand]

Never go over 9000

[sly elk]

hehe

ye ye

9690XTX

[real edge]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fpu4l2fcz9hzb1.jpg

HOPIUM

its very hopium

but lets wait and see I guess

if this is true then I am glad to have waited

but they are just rumors

at this point

that 4070ti super is looking nice

its basically exactly what I want

I want at least 16gigs of vram with good performance

1000$ 4080super seems kinda meh tho

[eternal zinc]

[umbral moss]

Imagine cheering for 256 bit memory busses in 2023

[lost python]

bUt iTS fAsT mEmORy sO yUO DoNT nOtICe

[umbral moss]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-rosa-diaz-fart-noises-fart-farting-gif-22683456

Bring back 512 bit memory you cowards

[wraith agate]

He became a hairball?

[real edge]

im not cheering for them, I just want a reasonable upgrade cause my 1070 is aging

the 4070 sucks

the 4070ti sucks

the 4080 is too expensive

the 4090 is unreasonably expensive

but if the 4070ti super is like 650-700, has 16gigs of vram and good performance then I will think about it

[fair parcel]

I just went from 1080 to 4080

[wraith agate]

I went from 1060 to 4090

[fair parcel]

sheeesh

yeah mine was close to total death so it was time

[sharp star]

I had to buy another 4090 because MSI sucks

mine's Gigabyte and it's holding up better

But hey, free Alan Wake 2

[paper tusk]

the last claim about 4070 non ti super being only 5% worse than ti seems a little topkek (also the prospect of ti super getting a price increase)

[dull garnet]

My 4070 does not suck I can assure you

[lament pine]

Shorted 3 times in the span of 15 minutes, should I take it to a pc repair store?

[potent arrow]

Yep

Motherboard

Almost a hundredo percentile

[lament pine]

How much is a new motherboard

[cerulean talon]

Depends on what your processor/needs/etc are. Modern boards are 150-200-ish for entry-level, older boards are usually less than that even for a mid-range board if they're still available. Too old though and they're hard to get.

[odd sand]

I guess that means their AI cards are moving off that process, so they can finally use that silicon for consumer cards /s

[real edge]

the thread got removed by the nvidia mods

but my link somehow survived

well moores law is false more often than not

like I can tell the estimated MSRP is BS

the specs are just regurgitated from other rumors

we will see in january

I guess

[paper tusk]

I'm expecting a price increase because of the raw cost of vram, question is how bad is it going to be

[real edge]

256bit bus vram is cheaper than 192bit bus vram

well

on a per chiplet basis

[paper tusk]

I'm still thonking about a 3080 ti upgrade since cheap used cards but new would be nice

not that I'll get jack shit for my 3060 ti on the market

[real edge]

I cant do a 30 series or 60 series amd gpu cause their power spikes suck

[dull garnet]

i wonder what a 3080 sells for these days used

low £400, not amazing

[lost python]

i have seen them go as low as 350 for less popular models

[dull garnet]

yeah I just glanced at the lowest BIN right now, i'm sure cheaper listings get snapped up

🫡

[eternal zinc]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eWOrtI1CQP4?si=2V20oeNPzKNSG5_V

[sharp star]

more fans does not equal more better

[eternal zinc]

lets just enjoy onlyfans case

[dull garnet]

Tell that to ice

[sharp star]

I have bigger fans though

[modest moss]

speedy find me a good phone deal for under 200

my daughter needs an upgrade

she's turning 15 and has made her current phone last 3 years

[dull garnet]

Uh there's that poco thing

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/pocox5-5g-8gb-256gb-4233415

[modest moss]

yeah I just copied that link lol

that's a contender ya

I feel bad, she's such a good kid

I was asking what she wanted for xmas/bday and she talked about skates that she'd probably never use

so I say is there anything else and she says 'nothing realistic'

so I press her a little and she says she'd like a phone upgrade but it's okay

[dull garnet]

Relatable

What does she have now?

[modest moss]

motorola g8 power lite lol

trash payg phone that was like, 90 quid

[glass moth]

hey guys, will I need a gaming laptop to run the game with 30-40 fps on minimum settings? and any vouches on durable laptops that can run the game in that way? don't really play video games anymore besides FFXIV and I'd just want to get my money's worth on a budget

[sharp star]

you might as well get a Steam Deck at that frame target

[glass moth]

I still need a laptop for work haha, but yeah I'm not looking for much

[modest moss]

what's your budget? black friday deals will appear soon

you need to consider the updated minimum specs for DT

[glass moth]

oh that's tough good point

[modest moss]

so on a laptop you will probably need to spend all that 800 to be comfy

[glass moth]

well if that's the case can't do much about that haha, any idea how well minimum req runs?

[modest moss]

we're just guessing at this stage

I'd wait a week or so and see what deals pop up

[glass moth]

sounds good! never gone online shopping or laptop browsing honestly, any places you suggest I look?

[modest moss]

newegg, amazon, bestbuy (but I'm from UK so I could be wrong)

do feel free to come back and ask the nerds here again

[glass moth]

haha sounds good appreciate the help shue!

[sly elk]

oh haha interesting thing. the new m3 imacs don't have new keyboards/mice lol. They still use lightning connectors.

[neon shell]

I guess google is tired of bluestacks

optional?? wtf

[sly elk]

ye ye

-gets out a macbook air-

https://tenor.com/view/skrt-skrt-saturday-night-live-rap-roundtable-yeet-its-lit-gif-19652159

[neon shell]

are there actually any cases where it would be optional?

[sly elk]

yea when the cpu is really really low power. admittedly, even then you'd probably use a heatsink or some kinda heat plate or something

raspberry pis don't come with them to begin with

[neon shell]

ok

for some reason, my brain went to office computers before you sent that

[neon shell]

I only see them used for educational reasons

but interesting nevertheless

like beginner level computer science

Is it used for anything else? I don’t know that much about, I’ll admit

[sly elk]

I mean I see them used all the time in professional settings for quick-n-dirty embedded solutions

the problem is availability lol

[dull garnet]

Should be a nice upgrade then. I guess she probably wants an iPhone but doesn't want to say that

[sly elk]

in the US it's possible to sometimes get a good prepaid deal on an se or something of that nature

[dull garnet]

i kinda like the idea of an SE, my iPhone 6 is probably my favourite smartphone

maybe if they refresh it again

although an A15 is nothing to sneeze at

[sly elk]

lol my work phone is an iphone 8 and I'm so over that design lol

but the fingerprint sensor is nice

I wish iphones had options instead of 1 way or nothing

like my galaxy fold has it in the power button on the side of the phone, and I do like that setup

would be nice if iphones had a fingerprint sensor you could use when wearing a mask or whatever lol

[dull garnet]

Yeah my galaxy tab s7 has the fingerprint reader there too, it's nice

I kinda miss rear fingerprint readers, far more practical than in screen ones

[lost python]

https://www.techspot.com/news/100805-amd-gains-cpu-market-share-desktops-laptops-servers.html

remember when their share was in the single digits

the market really gets proper competition, hopefully longterm

[signal fable]

Hey guys, I just got and installed my new SSD does anybody know a program to clone all the games that I have on steam on the hhd without having to download them again when I put them in the SSD?

[dull garnet]

you can relocate them in steam, or relocate your steamapps folder

assuming you can see both drives

[signal fable]

Ah ok thx

[dull garnet]

steam settings > storage

[signal fable]

👍

[sharp star]

til the Steam Deck OLED's APU is codenamed Sephiroth

how fitting

[dull garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-sephiroth-kirby-bounce-gif-22861980

[glossy ravine]

Suprised that only Newegg and Beff Jeozo's app is selling the CPU fan that my friend's build is going to use. The (Noctua NH-U12S redux 70.75 CFM)

[neon shell]

Ah the pc build is going well

So excited

Really not as bad as I thought

[glossy ravine]

You building one as well?

[neon shell]

Mhm

A couple weeks of research

And now the parts are in my possession

[modest moss]

What did you buy

[neon shell]

You mean the motherboard or everything?

[modest moss]

CPU GPU mainly

How much ram

[glossy ravine]

[modest moss]

Rag gone very quiet

Doesn't want to tell me they bought amd

[neon shell]

Just one second lmao

I bought intel

[modest moss]

Unfriending if it's not intel and nvidia

[glossy ravine]

AMD better

[modest moss]

Wrong but sure

[neon shell]

16 gig ram, nividia 2060 and i7 12700k

I’m biased towards intel

[modest moss]

You bought a 2060 in 2023?

😶

[neon shell]

Can’t reasonably afford anything stronger

Just looking for something that would put me in a comfortable spot for DT and other games

[modest moss]

Probably would have been better with amd than a 2060

Or a used 1080

[neon shell]

Oh well

We’re still friends though right

[modest moss]

Sure

[neon shell]

Thanks pig friend

I grew up with nividia and intel

So I just prefer it

But I won’t turn a blind eye to different companies though

[glossy ravine]

Sorry that you have the incorrect opinion

[neon shell]

Eh

It’s a damn headache to read AMD product names for one

They use password generators to name their products, I swear

And blue is just better then red

[sly elk]

does that mean we can't be friends?

[glossy ravine]

It's red with the Blood of my enemies nice color of fire.

[neon shell]

Not wrong

[sly elk]

https://youtu.be/up863eQKGUI?t=335

I'd never watched the source video before

it's even more trippy than the gif

[glossy ravine]

Can't wait for my 6750 XT. Get them better graphics and Performance

Though this is probably gonna be the limit this build can handle bc. My Power Supply is only 650 watts and with the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, a few SSDs, and HDD. I'm starting to near its limit.

Unless i wanna go through the process of rewiring my entire build and just.

[deep sapphire]

what a great 2005 meme right here

[sly elk]

more like 1995 hehe

[sly elk]

YMMV depending on experience and skillset lol

[sly elk]

man that dude's office is hella crowded

[dull garnet]

Running a 4070 on my 650w, just depends on power draw going forward

Same cpu

[velvet flint]

is a laptop dated 30th August 2021 too young for me to exchange for a newer laptop?

I'm considering getting a new laptop for DT because the graphics card is a older model and also fixed but

[dull garnet]

If it isn't suitable to your requirements then age is irrelevant

[royal forge]

if it works fine as is

theres no need to change

if it aint

then

[graceful pine]

The fuck is that tall monitor

I guess I can see why programmers use it

[astral ridge]

It’s just a flipped monitor

Great for spreadsheets, coding, etc

[graceful pine]

I can see why just not something I need

Ain’t exactly useful for this stuff(just a pic from google didn’t want to boot up mine tbh)

[dull garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9gxpKaq70U

[lost python]

this mouse looks a little sus

[sharp star]

I like how my new 4090 has no audible coil whine

after a few days with it, it seems to be dead quiet under load

[lost python]

lucky

[sharp star]

it’s a Gigabyte which seems to be really good this gen

Asus is apparently terrible for coil whine

[potent arrow]

Asus is alright

Mostly

I think the TUFF line had the most consistent coil whine

[cold yacht]

I think my ram sticks is fucked

Ever since I installed new ram my computer has a random chance of freezing

[potent arrow]

Memcheck time babbby

Could also be driveeersss

[lost python]

loosen the timings if its a highspeed kit

[potent arrow]

That too

I'm a freak that reinstalls windows for every upgrade to prevent driver issues

[cold yacht]

Now it’s a waiting game for the check to finish

[cold yacht]

ok so far mem check said no issues

??? aparently the ram i have isnt compatible with my mobo

not compatible with a z690 board

[real edge]

wat

did you slot in ddr4 ram to a ddr5 board or sth

[cold yacht]

ddr4 to ddr4

[real edge]

then there should be no issues

[cold yacht]

This crashing is annoying me

[cerulean talon]

What ram and what mobo?

[cold yacht]

T force Vulcan z ddr4 3200 cl16

Msi z690 pro

My previous ram was a g skill ripjaw cl15

[cerulean talon]

The DDR4 version right?

[cold yacht]

Yep

[cerulean talon]

K, wanted to make sure. 😄

[cerulean talon]

1, 2, or 4 sticks, and are you using XMP profiles?

[cold yacht]

2 sticks of 16

Tried testing both with xmp on and off and keeps getting crashes

[cerulean talon]

Memchecked em?

[cold yacht]

Yep, no issues found

Which is a tad annoying

[cerulean talon]

Interesting.

Only thing I'd think at that point is something like voltage sag.

But I'd expect it to come across other parts of the system. Happens w/ 1 of the two sticks in as well?

[cold yacht]

I changed the imc dram clock gear to 2 but I can’t check rn to see if it makes a difference until later

But so far it my desktop freezes when I’m playing games for like 40 or so minutes at

Only started to happen when I installed new ram kit

[dull garnet]

you've done the "load optimised defaults"?

[cold yacht]

I want to say I have

[glass prism]

So I feel in a loop; my switch is needing to update system, but I can’t do that without internet, so I try to connect to hotel Wi-Fi, but I can’t unless I put in password, and I can’t put in password until I update system

[sharp star]

oh nvm I misread

it's dumb

try finding a McDonald's or something, idk

[dull garnet]

or set your phone up as a hotspot

[potent arrow]

Plug your laptop into Ethernet and hotspot with no wifi

[dull garnet]

ethernet at a hotel?

[potent arrow]

All of them have it at the ones I stay at lol

I just put on a VPN and use it

[golden stream]

You can hotspotting, no pw, but need to snipe meanies who's using ur hotspot for free

[late basalt]

Ok, i have a dumb question- why the fuck is power shell swapping shift+’ and shift+2 when i start typing in command switches?

I want quotation marks, not a damned at sign

[void dove]

are you logged into a remote machine that uses the UK/EU keyboard layout?

[modest moss]

US and GB layouts

[void dove]

then thats would be why

[late basalt]

US only

Remote VMs for class work (cengage)

I’m hoping it’s only a random quirk for this particular lab, not a hint of future issues

[modest moss]

@dull garnet redmi note 12 pro vs motorola g54 5g

looks like the redmi has 6gb/128gb vs 8gb/256gb on the motorola, but the redmi has faster cpu, better screen, better camera, faster charging

I may have just answered my own question

[dull garnet]

Ya

[modest moss]

ordered the note 12 pro, yolo

[dull garnet]

lol

why support legacy tech?

[paper tusk]

gotta get people to buy the same shit for higher price

although to be fair i7-14 is what i7-13 should have been core count wise

[kindred brook]

@modest moss https://slickdeals.net/f/17057935-samsung-990-pro-4tb-epp-199-99?v=1

dad should I buy

I got a 980 pro 2TB

😄

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/idc-lol-idc-lol-idc-cat-i-dont-care-gif-21450775

[kindred brook]

dad doesn't care about me anymore

My own terrible financial decisions

are now mine to own

[umbral moss]

What's EPP and is this a dogshit QLC drive?

[deep sapphire]

holy shit thats a good deal

[kindred brook]

Employee email

[dull garnet]

electric pp

[kindred brook]

company email

[kindred brook]

you can use your work email

[umbral moss]

Must be nice to work at a company where you can use your email and get a fat discount instead of a "who the fuck is this?"

[kindred brook]

I have a telecommunicaitons company lol

is that a QLC

ssd

[dull garnet]

if only Samsung had a website detailing such information 🤔

[umbral moss]

Samsung tends to obfuscate if any given product is the dogshit version because they want to sell you garbage

That's why they have so many obnoxious overlapping product names

[sly elk]

yeaaa

it's funny because their "pro" ssds had a fantastic reputation at the start

iirc they had 10 year warranties, too

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/samsung-ssd-850-pro-1tb

man I damn near gaslit myself

I was trying to find proof the 10 year warranty was ever a thing and couldn't at first lol

samsung SSDs were the go-to for a while there

until they started acting sus switching up hardware on the 970 evo and still trying to sell it as a 970 evo

then they fucked up with the 980 😄

[deep sapphire]

I have the 980, so far so good

[cold yacht]

soo seems like loosening the timings on my ram did help with the crashes

[modest moss]

980 pro here too, runs great

[cold yacht]

only got 1 crash within 4 hours instead of 1 every hour

[dull garnet]

my nvme is a kioxia

[modest moss]

should see a doc about that cough

[real edge]

there is a 990 pro on sale here for 280euro

but the one I am eyeing right now is 2tb for 133

same overall performance

[glossy ravine]

Good news and bad news

Good news:

[signal fable]

the bad news?

[glossy ravine]

Bad news is that trying to remove my current graphics card is painful.

[signal fable]

why?

[glossy ravine]

Like. Physically painful.

[signal fable]

there's something wrong with it?

[glossy ravine]

Because of the latch at the back of the card that I need to press down to release the card.

[signal fable]

oh that?

i never had problems with it but i don't know if that clip changes on other mobo's

[signal fable]

i see the problem

[graceful pine]

Get something with leverage and length

[signal fable]

yes that should work

[glossy ravine]

Pencil acquired

There we are

Ty

[signal fable]

noice

[glossy ravine]

Lmao. I almost tried putting in the card without taking off the plastic cover

Reading? That requires like. Effort. And knowledge of the English lexicon

Bold of you to assume I can read anyway

Worst part of the install is trying to put the damn tiny screws back in

Um. Crap. I don't have all the power connectors to fill this card.

Needs to be slightly longer.

[wise jay]

My vertical gpu kit was suffering to install

[graceful pine]

RTFM

[glossy ravine]

Rtfm?

[graceful pine]

Read the fucking manual

[wise jay]

https://tenor.com/view/nobody-reads-the-manual-sanjay-odd-odd-west-fairly-odd-parents-no-one-reads-the-handbook-gif-23883128

[glossy ravine]

Yeah. Doesn't help that my PSU cord isn't long enough.

I'm going to have to rewire this entire system aren't I

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/kkekekekekkeke-kk-gif-27232250

[glossy ravine]

Either that or get a whole new PSU, which would be the exact same fucking thing

Goddamn this cable is short.

Okay. Turns out I just have bad cable management.

About to power on, hopefully nothing explodes.

Okay. Got it to boot.

Now I need to fix my display issues

The card is sagging slightly.

It's not a huge sag and I did put it in my reinforced PCIE slot but. Still

My primary monitor isn't picking up the signal from my card.

[modest moss]

unplug the other monitor

[sly elk]

lots of people do that. I think I've done it before too lol.

[dull garnet]

GPU sag doesn't matter at all

lol

[glossy ravine]

I'll figure out the monitor stuff later. I need to get to work

[odd sand]

They make extensions for cables even if it was a non-modular PSU fwiw

[glossy ravine]

Well. My psu is a 650 watt. I'd have to upgrade the capacity. My current rig is just barely able to accommodate my components as is.

The gpu manual called for at least 650. So I just barely cleared that

[umbral moss]

GPU supply specs have always been over rated so you choose one with a +12V that can handle the transient current demand

If you bought a high grade supply like Silverstone you're probably way fine unless you jammed like, a 4090 in there

[sly elk]

ey-soose strikes again

[odd sand]

Yeah unless you have some bronze chinesium PSU you should be fine with a 650. What GPU do you have @glossy ravine ?

[glossy ravine]

Gpu or psu?

[odd sand]

GPU

[glossy ravine]

@odd sand

Upgrading from a 5600 XT

[odd sand]

Oh only a 6750? Yeah that will run on a 650W np

[glossy ravine]

Best part of a new GPU? Scrunched icon sizes/incorrect default resolution

I need to clean up a number of icons on it.

[odd sand]

Is that an AGP riser card? lol

[deep sapphire]

nah I dont think so though that would be hilarious

[sly elk]

ya know, when people talk about RGB vs non-RGB and I get all huffy at the RGB haters, it's not that I don't like non-rgb builds. Computer parts are cool. :]

[odd sand]

What is that card then? Looks old af

[deep sapphire]

that "premium graphics" branding was pretty late in the ATI life cycle

probably an HD 4850 or something

[sly elk]

although I admit, it was easier to enjoy them when they weren't matte black everything

things like those funky zalman heatsinks and blue motherboards with colorful accents were fun to look at

[sly elk]

it's pcie

[odd sand]

Must have been like first gen of PCIE then bc I didn't think it went back that far

[sly elk]

pcie has been around a really long time now x_X

[odd sand]

The Goggles says Asus HD4850

[sly elk]

the last powermac g5 in 2005 had pcie

[cerulean talon]

I still want the zalman radiator.

[sly elk]

so it's been almost 20 years lol

[cerulean talon]

Like I know it's out of production, still want it.

[sly elk]

i want the zalman reserator

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, that things.

*thing. 😄

[sly elk]

isn't that thing cool af?!

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, I wanted one when I was younger, still do.

[odd sand]

I was just saying that while the standard was older I feel like the average consumer system didn't have them until like yeah 2005 or later. On PCs maybe even 2006-7

[sly elk]

apparently the water block that comes with it is a piece fo junk

[sly elk]

yea that's one of the ironic bits about DIY PC parts

they lag heavily behind the latest and greatest

like even to this day, with pcie 5.0, you can't really buy a gpu that has thunderbolt ports

I think maybe one x670e motherboard potentially supports thunderbolt 4 and even then it doesn't promise it

[odd sand]

How about the like 10 years it took for solid USB 3.0 support heh

[sly elk]

wow

thermaltake rocket lol

yea, exactly lol

[odd sand]

I remember it being 5+ years old and still the driver support on it was so shoddy you basically wanted to avoid it if at all possible

How tall is that thing?

Looks almost like a floor-mounted radiator like you would find in a room heh

[sly elk]

I have no idea lol

[dull garnet]

I had a pcie 6800 GT so...

I think that was the first gen of cards that used it

member BFG? I member

[dull garnet]

Also had a Radeon X550 that was pcie, that was like 3 generations before a 4850

[royal forge]

anyone familiar with tablets?

apparently my mum is out buying some tablet for my uncle to watch shows on

she's quite adamant on Samsung cuz its "cheaper" vs apple

which i mean

of course but

how good is it

[deep sapphire]

If all you wanna do is watch shows then a cheap tablet is fine

[royal forge]

She's thinking of a Samsung S9FE

[deep sapphire]

I dunno about over there but you can get a base iPad for about 300 bucks here

[royal forge]

Yea

you cant here

hmm

needs to have mobile

[dull garnet]

Get a Xiaomi Pad 5

Samsung tablets are okay but they depreciate hard

[royal forge]

Yea

Tried to convince her

But xiao mi is a bit distrusted here

So

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp star]

https://vxtwitter.com/hytebrand/status/1724479848280727910

[dull garnet]

I mean, I would consider them chinese spyware as a joke too

but the amount of hardware you get for the price is good

[sly elk]

aren't all those brands basically the same company?

xiaomi oppo oneplus etc

hehe phones in the US are more boring. There's Apple and Samsung... and Motorola... and then whatever else you're paying cash for and nobody knows what it is

oh right, google pixel phones, i forgot about those. Yea apple, samsung, google, motorola,

from time to time carriers will sell their own shitty chinese phone with their own brand slapped on it

t-mobile's selection

wtf is Wiko

[dull garnet]

or you're buying American made phones for 5x the price

[sly elk]

Tinno Mobile is a Chinese ODM company focused on making phones for other brands. The company have also created their own mobile phone brands like Sugar Phone [zh], and Wiko Mobile.[1] The company was established in 2005 and is headquartered at Shenzhen, Guangdong, China.[2][3]

In 2016 December, it is revealed that pre-installed application developed by Adups within BLU phones would transmit user data to Chinese server without customer consent.[10] Tinno is among the list of brands that were found to have Adups applications pre-installed on their phones.[11]

[dull garnet]

sorry, only twice the price

[sly elk]

Right right, the "american" phones from apple, google, moto are made in china anyway

i'm pretty sure those are also made in china, no?

[dull garnet]

https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/

[sly elk]

All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility

[dull garnet]

the specs are like 2015 smartphone tier

[sly elk]

OMG

neverball

I haven't played that game since like 2007

[sly elk]

NXP® i.MX 8M Quad core Cortex A53, 64bit ARM @max 1.5GHz (auxiliary Cortex M4)

older I think, but I get why

the specs are crap, but I appreciate them trying haha

[deep sapphire]

this looks like a fun flash game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkrDH_uAZDA

[glass prism]

I don’t even have an account, and all I do is look at posts?

[sly elk]

yea reddit made it pretty clear during that whole phase a few months ago that they wanted to harvest user data and sell it lol

[glass prism]

I don’t usually keep up with that stuff, so I got no clue what happenin here

[sly elk]

I wanted to revisit that thought: I don't think the specs are necessarily a result of the phone being built in the US. It looks like they specifically wanted all of the components to also be made in the US, including the CPU. And given it runs linux, they probably wanted a certain amount of open-source-ness or whatever as well, which would further limit their options

We're also talking about an operation that appears to be some dudes running a shop out with a single pick-n-place machine and stuff

this is definitely not "If apple made phones in the US they'd cost twice as much"

I think the reason something like that can't sell is you still need to be remotely competitive. Like when it comes to cars, you can buy a car built in the US without paying a huge premium. Same with washing machines and other kinds of stuff like that.

[paper tusk]

to be fair there's some made in US appliances still, just have fun selecting them specifically in the average store https://www.geappliances.com/ge/usa

[sly elk]

i'm.. actually surprised they only make 2 of theirs in the US

TIL mine was probably made in china :S

also: weight 264lbs lmao

hmm maybe it is though

i'm curious

made in china. sadness. Oh well, at least it seems to have decent bearings. Unlike the last whirlpool I bought!

[deep sapphire]

if you want a good american made appliance buy speed queen

everything else is junk

[sly elk]

yea the big problem isn't even where it's made, it's that the parts are junk lol

at least that was the case with my whirlpoo washer

[wraith agate]

this reminds me my local T-mobile... sorry Telekom is giving out huge discounts if you are a long term user

I hopefully I can snatch a better phone next year cheaper

[sly elk]

yea t-mobile US became a stinker :S

after the sprint merger they started doing thing thing where every year they introduce a new more expensive plan

then they make everything slanted towards said new plan

like if you want to buy a new phone on the old plans, you're paying 100% MSRP, no specials

and then if you keep your old plan long enough they start doing sketchy stuff to persuade you to switch to a newer plan

[dull garnet]

in this case the product comes across as something that someone who doesn't trust big technology or the government or foreigners would be into. conspiracy theorist sort :p

[umbral moss]

These types of Super Secure products are always hilarious because they end up not being secure at all and the creator ends up getting pwned by the government lmao

Like that drug dealer they just bagged after installing a backdoor into the ultra secure cellphone the guy was hawking

[umbral moss]

Sprint habits die hard, they were billing me a 5G usage fee for 5G they didn't even offer in my area 👍

[sly elk]

Yea I feel like Sprint bought T-Mobile with T-Mobile's money

that's what that "merger" was

yep yep.

[umbral moss]

Who knew allowing two bottom feeders to merge wouldn't make a good company

[sly elk]

to be fair

sprint back in the day was awful

like, way back

[umbral moss]

The only thing sprint had going for it was that it was cheap, but ya know, nothing is cheap for no reason

[cold yacht]

yeah i just have att

got grandfathered into a unlimted data plan a while ago

[odd sand]

I kept my true unlimited data with verizon for years grandfathered in. Probably a lot longer than I should have

Then like 3 years ago I finally updated my plan and even the non-unlimited plan was like 15-20gb at that point and now its 50gb

Also almost half the price of what I was paying for the grandfathered plan

[neon shell]

This is probably a super dumb question, but are these gpu covers common on computer cases?

Keep in mind that my case is pretty old, and I’m wondering because I can’t for for the life of me find the screw that tightens it in place

[neon shell]

And ngl, I’m kinda scared to vertically place my pc because of that

@deep sapphire elp

[deep sapphire]

yes

there is supposed to be a screw holding the GPU to the case up top

[neon shell]

Well shit

[deep sapphire]

they take any generic phillips screw

[neon shell]

Oh

[deep sapphire]

if you have a spare lying around

otherwise you can probably buy a bunch of them for cheap on ebay or amazon

[neon shell]

Sounds good. Sorry to take you out of your immersion but rag was scared

[wise jay]

ya my mini itx case had something like that for the gpu and it was just a thumbscrew to hold it down

[neon shell]

Nice

I’m actually replacing this junk tomorrow, but the parts within it are not junk

I might sell the case on Kijiji or something

Dunno

[neon shell]

Sooo theoretically, the gpu would just fall out otherwise

Or at the very least with light pressure it would

[sharp star]

So Intel's APO isn't coming to 12th and 13th gen Core CPUs huh

really fucking sucks because APO looks great and if they did that it would cannibalize 14th gen sales

(and rightfully so too)

[wise jay]

It shouldnt. PCIe slots typically lock your card in so if anything itll put more pressure on the slot with out the screw there. It also depends on your card. Alot of light enough where it shouldnt be a real problem

[sly elk]

I think that's just a piece of metal that clamps down all the pci cards together

[void dove]

pretty much yea

[neon shell]

Yup

[void dove]

for cases that they didn't want to inset the motherboard, you get stuff like that

mostly OEM, cheap cases, etc.

i dont really see it on custom builds

and yea, should be a screw in to hold it inplace

some OEM ones ive seen clamp down inside the case with some mechanism

so its toolless

if its loose, yea screw it in

[neon shell]

Yeah I’m buying a new case tomorrow

[void dove]

it normally just takes a normal case screw

[neon shell]

Man I can’t wait till I get better ffxiv fps

I’m excited

And also so I can play pay day 3

I appreciate the help all, I feel more confident going forward now

[dull garnet]

does pay day 3 even work yet

[odd sand]

Yeah it probably fits any standard case screw. Most motherboards came with a bag of them, otherwise you can probably bum one from the motherboard or psu or get them from the hardware store.

They've used the same 2 types of screws primarily for decades now

[dull garnet]

I used to remove pci covers so my gpu had a little more breathing room

I'm sure it didn't help at all

[sly elk]

:3

maybe

[neon shell]

Gpu is love

Gpu is life

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/gpu-kawaii-rtx-2080-gif-18883392

[inland mauve]

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/developers-gif-13292051

[neon shell]

What does that mean

[modest moss]

it means one of the students is a dumb skiddy and using the university connection to try and hack/attack random IPs probably

[inland mauve]

script kiddy

[modest moss]

ya

[inland mauve]

I'd inform the university

[cold yacht]

Their first mistake is going to usc

[inland mauve]

if that student causes damage the university may be held accountable

[wise hatch]

why am I using eclipse ? am I stupid ?

how do I configure vscode to use jdk 1.8 instead of 2.1

[cold yacht]

Honestly school for computer science made me realize I don’t like computer science

So I swapped to civil engineering

[wise hatch]

oh snap thanks, for some reason even though it said "auto configured" it very clearly wasnt as I couldnt run anything since javac was apparently an unknown command

[neon shell]

Oh. Ngl I didn’t even know what WAN means

[cold yacht]

https://apnews.com/article/youtube-artitifical-intelligence-deep-fake-ai-creaters-0513fd9fddbd93af327f0411dd29ff3d

[neon shell]

Rare YouTube W

[dull garnet]

because there are a ton of people with AM4 platforms that would be receptive to more upgrade options

as long as they don't drop a 5900X3D or 5950X3D...

[neon shell]

Yeah I ended up using one of the screws from the motherboard. Thanks for the heads up!

[odd sand]

That AMD and Nvidia are both dipping into older silicon I guess means they're using up stock they agreed to buy from TSMC or something over covid

[sly elk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/17vzsp9/android_isnt_cool_with_teenagers_and_thats_a_big/

they should stop being ridiculous and just make a friggin android app for imessage already lol

[sharp star]

woohoo I have to be up by 2 AM to order a Steam Deck OLED

[glossy ravine]

I'm waiting with the oled deck to go on sale.

1. Because I already own a 256 gb LCD one.

2. The price is just outside my means rn

[sharp star]

probably gonna go on sale a few Steam sales later

[glossy ravine]

The deck is still really cool though

Once I get my oled, I'll sell my lcd to soften the cost. Prolly at 300

[sharp star]

I'm selling my LCD to recoup costs as well

probably $360 ballpark since I added a 1TB drive

[glossy ravine]

I'm keeping my 1 tb SD card for my 512.

I can't financially justify buying a 1 tb deck as it stands

$650 is a hell of a lot of money

[real edge]

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/25245825/Primo-PRPH-81025-Convector-Floor-Heater-2000W-with-Electronic-Thermostat-93x55cm.html#specs any opinions on this? you can set English language on the top right, I need this for my bathroom and to break the cold on my bedroom, but I am not sure about these types of products or what to get for my situation

[deep sapphire]

2000w heater would defo help but make sure it has settings for timers and stuff so you dont leave it on and waste abunch of electricity

[neon shell]

https://youtu.be/DevM3bbGtoA?si=j83bvMSNYD1xma-t old video, but still Pog

Someone should make a tungsten keyboard

I got a funny story of something that happened today

I went to a local computer supplies store, and both me and the employee subtly trashed on RGB lmao

[sharp star]

I personally don’t really care if you use RGB but I will turn it off on my personal systems

[sly elk]

hahaha RGB so funny

[neon shell]

I don’t really care what other people like. I just found it funny that we both trashed RGB

I’m fine with dull light if I was left with no other choice. I just don’t like super bright RGB

[wise jay]

ya my case has tinted glass so it looks tasteful. Not overly bright

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-queen-eye-roll-anime-gif-19940900

just do whatever floats your boat