meh AMD software keeps reset my tuning for no reason :/
#technology-discussion
torpid kayak
wraith agate
I know I live in the once upon a time Eastern bloc, but people generally here aren't fond of that period
dull garnet
amd quality
lost python
meh AMD software keeps reset my tuning for no reason :/
it usually does that when you had a timeout or similar. check the notifications if there is anytihng like that mentioned
torpid kayak
it usually does that when you had a timeout or similar. check the notifications ...
dunno. Sometimes I just restart my PC, and when I go in, it pops up saying the setting is reverted back to default
lost python
oh thats a super old bug that should be fixed with newer drivers 
frozen bolt
What's the AMD equivalent of an i7 10000?
lost python
that depends on what model you mean exactly
modest moss
10700 you mean I guess?
modest moss
maybe 3800x? idk
lost python
the cheapest 10k series cpu is the 10100F which is like.. uh..
lost python
ah right i7
modest moss
it's a weird question, they're old
lost python
yeah 10700F is like the cheapest which averaged at like 300€ at its time
so comparable to the 3800x
sharp star
odd sand
It has to do with how many write cycles each block has gone through. If you wrote to them and the games don't update very often, you could have a lot of data written but if each block only got overwritten 70x and they can handle 300 lets say, it's fine. But if it was the same 1gb overwritten everyday for 3 years, you would be close to 1000x writes to a block and trash the drive
sly elk
it could also be the tool being faulty
umbral moss
NYS issues a statement that facial recognition won't be allowed in schools, but I guess everywhere else is A-OK 
wild trout
it could also be the tool being faulty
Crucial storage executive says its end of life as well, so i think the drive is just faulty
sly elk
it should still be under warranty
cerulean talon
Mmmmmm. iDRAC.'
deep sapphire
Mmmmmm. iDRAC.'
errant ginkgo
maybe I DO like kpop
new jeans are so y2kcoded
just realised this was the wrong channel LMAOOO
odd sand
just realised this was the wrong channel LMAOOO
U go grrl
potent arrow
Idrac is so good lol
sly elk
i mean it's fun to use it to startle a coworker lol
odd sand
The Gameboy Color had an 8-bit CPU clocked at 8 MHz with 32 KB of RAM. It rendered at 144p. The original Gameboy had half the clock speed and 1/4 the RAM.
Game Boy had 8KB of RAM? VRAM I assume they were talking about? Still, whew...
Interestingly, the NES was 1.79mhz 2KB RAM 8bit rendering at 240p. The Game Boy was 4mhz 8KB RAM rendering at 144p. But I guess that isn't the whole story bc the later games for NES would "cheat" by including extra memory on the cartridges. IE: SMB3 wouldn't have been possible on purely stock NES capabilities.
void dove
yea there are a lot of similarities between them, and the SNES as well iirc, that porting games between the platforms was very doable.
void dove
PI becoming a PC from the 2000s
dull garnet
Might get the 8gb model
dull garnet
$80 plus tax
dull garnet
it does in the uk
modest moss
when you add a power supply and a case etc it's getting semi expensive
potent arrow
A dev board with those features and size for 80$ is kinda steal
dull garnet
I just wonder if the active cooler will fit in the official case, otherwise i'll wait for a flirc case like my pi 4
potent arrow
This generation also has a proper USB PD chip so you can use any 5A USB C PD adapter
The new pi case has the active cooler built in
dull garnet
well yeah but no heatsink
dull garnet
least they saw sense with the design, I have the one for the 4 and it basically cooks itself
potent arrow
Im sure that clear part you can pop it off and the active cooler will fit
modest moss
I bet this'd be awesome for plex
potent arrow
Surely.
dull garnet
I bet this'd be awesome for plex
using my 4 for jellyfin
modest moss
never heard of that, I was going to look at emby, my mate suggested that
plex is nice because my tv has a native app, I haven't checked if emby is on the LG store
potent arrow
I know jellyfin is on some lgtvs
modest moss
not on mine apparently, emby is though
potent arrow
modest moss
doesn't show up in the app store on my tv
yeah my tv is too old
it's the 2019 model, jellyfin says 2020 onwards
so I stick with plex or try emby
dull garnet
shoe moment
wide hill
yoo, finally the authorities is going to leak the secret sauce so amd can finally make their gpu prices higher
wide hill
yeah so i read the article
wide hill
basically, the authorities raided them for an allegation of anticomepetiveness which then they raided them and they didn't have a real legal justification to do so
dull garnet
KIM KARDASHIAN SNEEZED
wide hill
KIM KARDASHIAN SNEEZED
dexerto is more like a copy of all magazines together, so it has pretty much all of it
and i mean, all of bad magazines
i bet they have an AI that just finds the first news and auto-posts
dull garnet
wide hill
Twitter
fall guys getting collab with ff14
epic games deletes fall guys
what did square enix do
dull garnet
i guess they were the fall guys all along
sharp star
I think we should hunt investors for sport
umbral moss
I think we should hunt investors for sport
wild how the same people complaining about lazy do-nothings that benefit from the labor of others while doing none of their own are exactly those people
cold yacht
wide hill
https://www.rezilion.com/blog/rezilion-researchers-uncover-new-details-on-severi...
Not as bad as the webp vulnerability
sly elk
lol so there's an issue with the iphone 15, where when you plug in a usb-c power bank, it tends to just charge the bank instead of the other way around
sooooo lemme get this straight: It doesn't allow you to choose which direction the electrons flow?!
frozen osprey
https://www.rezilion.com/blog/rezilion-researchers-uncover-new-details-on-severi...
every day I'm glad I use Firefox and Opera
cerulean talon
lol so there's an issue with the iphone 15, where when you plug in a usb-c power...
Not super surprising, technically, PD is a 2 way thing, so they should be agreeing on which way power flows, just means apple did a dumb. 😄
cerulean talon
They really just need to put PoE on the base raspi and I'd maybe consider them for dev boards again, but after they burned the community over the last few years, it feels bleh.
deep sapphire
android fans when they cant soy over an apple product for 5 seconds
sly elk
I like phones but I admit I really like how comfy my giant folding phone is no matter how stupid 8r is lol
dull garnet
Motorola ahahahahaha
lost python
So uhh
Discord on desktop has me blocked by cloudflare wtf
Can't even login on the website wtf
Hmm seems like many people are affected by it not just us
torpid kayak
lol I thought I got banned https://i.imgur.com/WbVhGrS.png
Discord app stopped working and I saw this
torpid kayak
sound like cloudflare, alright 😄
sly elk
I hate cloud flare
golden stream
Hmm seems like many people are affected by it not just us
SEA peepo here
some PC app are ded
some web are ded
iirc mobile app is still ok
golden stream
not sure how tf discord communicate bc various platforms have various results and it isn't concrete which is actually ded
void plover
Why am I DC’ing from the game I’m on fucking Ethernet
royal forge
Have u tried route tracing
void plover
Have u tried route tracing
idk whatthat is
royal forge
Press Windows key + R to open the Run window.
Enter cmd and press Enter to open a Command Prompt.
Enter tracert, a space, then the IP address or web address for the destination site (the server ip)
Press Enter.
Dont post it here
Because it has ur own ip
But it basically tells u if theres a delay along the way to the DC
If theres no long delays or smthng
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void plover
Not my Ethernet cable is straight up not letting me play ff14
Why is it always fucking something maaan
Why can’t my Ethernet cable just be plug in play I didn’t even touch any settings
Think we are good now
royal forge
Just a bad cable then
wild trout
https://i.imgur.com/uj3lBlr.png
successfully migrated / cloned from my failing SSD \o/
deep sapphire
paper tusk
yes because it's a win 10 license
modest moss
hwid is for installing 10 generally, and it's using the free 7-10 upgrade flag
paper tusk
also kinda validates me thinking about upgrading to a 3090 (since one Im eyeing is $700)
not that I would get it to play cs2
cold yacht
And play it on the lowest setting for the extra frames
dull garnet
i get like 300 fps on default settings 1440p
sly elk
one funny thing for me
i bought win10 home and then later win10 pro
used 10 home and then changed the key to the 10 pro key on my old machine
when I built the new one I used my 10 pro key to install 11
.... somehow the old machine hasn't been deactivated lol
sly elk
https://i.imgur.com/uj3lBlr.png
successfully migrated / cloned from my failing S...
huzzah! here's mine XD
nice and toasty at 63c o_O
I should probably check out the thermal pads
dull garnet
nice and toasty at 63c o_O
here's a tip, don't check your temp when doing a large write to it
🔥 🔥 🔥
umbral moss
just put a waterblock on it and call it a day 😌
"this thing is hot" -> put a waterblock on it
inland mauve
jailbreak your treadmill
sly elk
here's a tip, don't check your temp when doing a large write to it
my computer is idle right now xD
that said it seems to have cooled down a little from idling lol
dull garnet
lol, i thought my m.2 was bad
i still think mine is pretty warm for a 3.0 drive, like 50 idle
sly elk
admittedly this is a 4.0 drive
dull garnet
40 with the thermalright heatsink i stuck on it
modest moss
gaming and my main nvme is 50c
dull garnet
my older 3.0 drive would idle at like 30 without a heatsink
frozen bolt
What's a good AMD processor that's an r7 that's better than an r5 3600? I need to upgrade.
odd sand
also kinda validates me thinking about upgrading to a 3090 (since one Im eyeing ...
At that rate, I would just save for a bit longer and buy a 7900XTX then. Or maybe get a used one on ebay
Although I haven't seen the benches for 3900 vs 7900xtx
modest moss
What's a good AMD processor that's an r7 that's better than an r5 3600? I need ...
I'd guess a 5800x3d if you don't want to buy a new mobo/ram
paper tusk
At that rate, I would just save for a bit longer and buy a 7900XTX then. Or mayb...
a 7900xt is on the radar but amd drivers put me off every time
I don't give a shit about overclocking I just want it to be rock stable and msrp (or less)
looks like 3900 to xtx on cp2077 is almost double fps at 4k (ultra non rt) but xtx has hard time keeping frame pace (pre-2.0 info)
frozen bolt
I'd guess a 5800x3d if you don't want to buy a new mobo/ram
Perfect thanks abue
Shue*
compact pine
What's a good AMD processor that's an r7 that's better than an r5 3600? I need ...
Also depends on your budget / if you'd switch to Intel perhaps
compact pine
That's idle!?!?
potent arrow
inland mauve
until then don't click on links
you never should click on links you don't trust but especially right now it's primed for an arbitrary code execution attack
dull garnet
Nice
frozen bolt
Also depends on your budget / if you'd switch to Intel perhaps
Don't really wanna change out my mobo.
sly elk
@frozen bolt it depends on your budget, but if your board can handle a 3600x it can probably handle a 5800x3d, and that's basically the endgame gaming cpu for that platform.
it's real good, too. I have seen at least one person go from 5800x3d -> 7800x3d and see no practical difference in gaming performance
frozen bolt
They look similar in price too.
sly elk
yea that's why people recommend 7800x3ds for new amd builds lol
but also consider if you'll actually see a performance jump from a 3600x to a 5800x3d lol
royal forge
Wow
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Reddit changes
sly elk
yea fuck reddit lol
and I'm sad to say I still visit (as a guest) to find things >> 😦 I really didn't want to go back there again. Really.
to be fair, I think the people that run the other forums I go to are probably about as shitty.
but they generally don't have the same amount of leverage lol
dull garnet
it's _real good_, too. I have seen at least one person go from 5800x3d -> 7800x3...
Eh? From what I've seen a 7600 is faster than a 5800X3D
real edge
Eh? From what I've seen a 7600 is faster than a 5800X3D
it depends
as for the 7600 its defo not faster
but for 7700x and up non X3D parts it depends
austere socket
yea fuck reddit lol
and I'm sad to say I still visit (as a guest) to find thing...
I think reddit, twitter, and wikia are the 3 biggest commercial info sources that I'm worried might disappear one day
real edge
> We will soon begin rolling out changes to Reddit's User settings. It is gettin...
im pretty sure thats illegal in the EU as websites are mandated to allow you to disable ad tracking and personalized shit
austere socket
along with youtube I guess
real edge
as in, not allow the website to track you for the sake of ads in the first place
austere socket
yeah that's supposed to be something you can disable without even being a member
or maybe that only applies to cookies
royal forge
im pretty sure thats illegal in the EU as websites are mandated to allow you to ...
thats reddit in a nutshell
i cant wait for the addons that block that
real edge
ublock origin :3
dull garnet
as for the 7600 its defo not faster
dull garnet
I guess they're basically tied plus the 5800x3d has extra cores plus large cache for software that can take advantage
real edge
as for the 7700x and above it depends on a per game basis, the 7800x3d is the best because it combines the IPC increase with the fat 3d cache, but for non 3dcache chips there are cases where the 5800x3d pulls ahead because of the cache
or similar perf because of the cache
dull garnet
Either way a 5800X3D is much nicer than a 3600 in terms of frame rates. If you're at 60Hz it will probably be less of an upgrade, definitely helps with ff14 and an unlocked frame rate though
lost python
why the hell are you looking at a CPU benchmark that uses a 3080
ofc its clear where the bottleneck lies
real edge
Either way a 5800X3D is much nicer than a 3600 in terms of frame rates. If you'r...
nobody normal uses 60hz on a desktop nowdays if they have a gaming CPU unless its a second monitor for browsing only or discord or sth
your benchmark has a 3080 which is a bottleneck when testing high tier CPUs like those
before that you tell some other person that the 7600 is faster than the 5800x3d which can be true in some games but not true in others, cause it depends on vcache utilization until we reach the 7800x3d and such
I somewhat dislike misinformation so try and do some research cause when we advise people on what to buy we have to ensure that we are correct
dull garnet
Damn, I got told off
Oh I was thinking of 7600X, my bad
Looking at benches with a 4090 that one is faster most of the time
compact pine
I was tempted to stay with and from my 7 3700x to the 7800x3d but price wise it made more sense to get the i7 13700k for similiar cpu pricing. With more cores/ slight better performance I assume.Mind you that' forced a MOBO and ram upgrade as well. I have a 3070ti and the 3700x was bottlenecking hard in some games
real edge
<:facepalm:673887516964814856>
dull garnet
works for me either way, I have a 5800x3d myself 
modest moss
I know my 3070ti's 8gb has been a bottleneck already, the last of us was horrible
celest violet
Nvidia giving skimpy amounts of vram has been shit the whole time
They should be giving us 16gbs for the price we pay already with their price tags
compact pine
I know my 3070ti's 8gb has been a bottleneck already, the last of us was horribl...
god I know wish I spent that little extra for the higher version
modest moss
yeah I should have waited a few months for availability but it's whatever, it's still decent
compact pine
Oh yeah it's great and works perfect for anything I play but for future games we'll see
late basalt
deep sapphire
https://www.androidauthority.com/psa-google-pixel-911-emergency-calling-issues-3...
interesting bug
sly elk
to be fair, of my 2 phones right now, the iphone is actually the one I fear would lock up during an emergency lol
like sometimes I'll pull it out and try to use it and it just totally freezes up for about 10 seconds
I've also had issues in the past with it just totally ignoring phone calls
in fact that still happens
I'll be chilling in my room and suddenly my watch tells me I have 1 missed phone call but I never heard the phone ring lol
i blame the intel modem and probably buggy volte 😄
sly elk
oh no
i fucking hate it when that happens
Some crashes occurred due to Onewheel skateboards malfunctioning after being pushed to certain limits. The Onewheel GT, Onewheel Pint X, Onewheel Pint, and Onewheel Plus XR will receive a firmware update that will add a new warning “Haptic Buzz” feedback that riders can feel and hear when the vehicle enters an error state, is low on battery, or is nearing its limits and needs to slow down.
I.. have a hard time trusting shit like that lol
you're trusting the PID controller to not dump you on the ground at 25mph lol
dull garnet
reminds me of one of my favourite things
sly elk
?
dull garnet
the way the then owner of segway died, you couldn't make it up
sly elk
oh
-shakes head-
the segway. The invention that made everyone lose respect for dean kamen lol
deep sapphire
also: https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/29/23896151/onewheel-cpsc-recall-future-mo...
didnt lois rossman have a video on this awhile ago
sly elk
idk apparently the onewheel thing has a lot of zealous fans
deep sapphire
sly elk
tbh it should be obvious looking at it, that it can kill you
modest moss
Still crazy
cold yacht
It’s nice in small towns tbh
I still want a electric long board
Was eyeing this one for a while but it’s like $400-$500
An all terrain variant for $1000
modest moss
Those look a tiny bit less suicidal
modest moss
Yeah ok not less suicidal
sly elk
on a related note, dmv still hasn't cashed my check 😦
cold yacht
Meant for country side and desert riding
celest violet
People will run into you on those things on college campuses tbh
Already had a guy on an electric longboard rock my shit
wraith agate
Yeah those electric scooters are kinda bad
They are silent, not regulated by law and can be acquired relatively cheap
It really takes one mistake for a driver to accidentally run over someone using one of these
Or a mistake on the part of the scooter user
glossy ravine
It still baffles me that $200 earbuds insist on touch controls instead of an actual button on these things.
wraith agate
I hate earbuds with touch or buttons on them
Let me control the thing via phone or my smart watch
I do not want to accidentally stop the music because I adjusted my earbud
glossy ravine
Because me chewing ice, my earbuds think I want to lower the volume.
modest moss
wireless earbuds are just not my jam at all
glossy ravine
Unfortunately I can't use Headphones at work. So Buds it is.
The Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra. A 1500 dollar phone doesn't even have a headphone jack. Ridiculous.
The removal of the HPJ on flagship phones was an objective L.
modest moss
I would use wired earbuds and a usb c - 3.5mm adapter personally
and probably get better sound
or at least get similar quality for a fraction of the price
glossy ravine
I'm using the official Galaxy Buds2 Pro. (Even that name is ridiculous) They are nice. Maybe I'll jump ship
I've yet to try out the ANC or the hearing thing.
hard drift
https://videocardz.com/newz/ek-launches-monoblock-liquid-cooler-for-playstation-5-which-costs-450-eur oh sweet jesus 
hard drift
i wonder how well the ps5 performs with that on it
plain zinc
Does anyone know a fix for error code 11000001?
sly elk
to be fair, 450 euros is a fair price for all that crap lol
plain zinc
I've looked online and there's only stuff for 11000002
hard drift
to be fair, 450 euros is a fair price for all that crap lol
it's not all that crap, it's just the monoblock
so you still need everything else still
modest moss
Does anyone know a fix for error code 11000001?
never seen that before, and that doesn't look like windows
is it mac?
plain zinc
is it mac?
yep
opal pantherBOT
sly elk
huh actually
modest moss
they have a discord too, they may be able to help further
plain zinc
they have a discord too, they may be able to help further
It's not the official mac launcher though since they stopped updating it years ago, it's the community one that I'm using
paper tusk
I would update wine manually but mac is above my paygrade
sly elk
It's not the official mac launcher though since they stopped updating it years a...
kinda asinine they require you to buy the mac version when this is the case -_-
modest moss
yeah I can't help, I haven't touched a mac in about 25 years
sly elk
yea and I don't personally have an apple silicon mac to try it on, unfortunately
I don't have the 'mac version' of ffxiv either, but I'm not sure that those launchers require it xD
plain zinc
yeah I can't help, I haven't touched a mac in about 25 years
All gud, thanks for trying
cerulean talon
Hrm, I should try xivmac. 😄
Not that my desktops don't run it fine, but it seems hilarious.
sharp star
I was able to get a decent framerate on a M1 MacBook Air at 900p
above that was just a bottleneck
ripe geyser
hmmmpstve
if I ever decide to build this my wallet be crying
too expensive to be current gen
potent arrow
Amazon
sharp star
DDR4 DRAM
AM5
pick one
ripe geyser
whats that
sharp star
you can’t use DDR4 DRAM with AM5 boards. you have to buy DDR5 kits
sharp star
yes
ripe geyser
how about this here
odd sand
no RGB, literally unusuable /s
I know AMD AM4 the sweet spot was DDR4-3600 bc of infinity fabric, is there a similar thing for AM5?
Seems the rec for AM5 infinity fabric is indeed DDR5-6000 but some boards may struggle to maintain that for dual rank modules
real edge
how about this here
6000mhz cl30 for am5
its cheap enough
provides a good perf boost
deep sapphire
yeah avoid CL36
its shit Samsung ram
I had that same fuckin kit that microcenter gave me and it couldnt even run at its rated clock rate
odd sand
DDR5 is still newish enough that the memory controllers are really touchy IMHO is the biggest issue
odd sand
That memory charts covering how many modules per channel and 1R vs 2R for what clock speeds being a thing for DDR5 tells you how finnicky it is. I don't remember that really being a thing for DDR4
USB3 sucked ass for like ... 8 years?
sly elk
I was under the impression that intel 13th gen did things better than amd's stuff
but then hank comes along with his samsung ram issues lol
odd sand
I feel like the first USB3 came out around 2010, and it was still shit supported even 5-8 years later
sly elk
^ this comes as no surprise at all though
USB first started appearing on PCs in like late 1996-1997
odd sand
Are you sure it was a ram issue and not mobo issue bc of the memory controllers and firmware?
sly elk
but people made fun of the iMac for being USB-only in 1998
odd sand
Although Samsung has been a dumpster fire the last couple years
sly elk
hmm
odd sand
News is nothing but a litany of issues with their ram, SSDs, monitors, etc.
sly elk
the samsung ram doesn't haev a bad rep it just isnt' known for overclocking past whatever it's sold at?
like if you bought ddr5-5600 it would be good for that, and that's it. end of story
the hynix stuff can supposedly hold an OC better
odd sand
Sure, but in many cases ppl complain about not being able to hit XMP/EXPO bc of the mobo
What good is like DDR5-8000 if you have to run like single channel 1R CL48 
ripe geyser
its been a long while since I built a pc and I had a lot of help
does the heatsink come with thermal paste or should I buy some
sly elk
hmmmm
target has series 8 apple watches for $258
i'd liek the bigger screen but I kinda want the series 9 for the thumb-tap to answer calls
because it's like a rule that I ALWAYS get an important phone call when I'm washing my hands or can't touch the watch for some stupid reason
uneven spade
and the memory controllers still suck
I mean, the same was DDR2 and 3 as well. I know that people miss dearly the era of DDR3 but it was good only during the Sandy-Haswell era
so basically at the end of it
uneven spade
Sure, but in many cases ppl complain about not being able to hit XMP/EXPO bc of ...
tbh, xmp/expo should legit die off this gen like unironically jedec might give you more performance than those shitty XMP profiles as of lately
ram manufacturers take some 4800 sticks and force them to run at a much higher clock speed for the sake of appearance 
deep sapphire
Are you sure it was a ram issue and not mobo issue bc of the memory controllers ...
Positive because I bought a CL30 Hynix kit and it had no problems and my performance skyrocketed
I use to get frame stuttering, my FPS jumped substantially in MMOs
odd sand
That's one thing that would be annoying to me being in EU: import tax would kick in for virtually everything, bc national borders are only a few hrs in any direction
graceful pine
That's one thing that would be annoying to me being in EU: import tax would kick...
they have a free trade zone(and the schengen area)
so no it wouldn't
sly elk
I use to get frame stuttering, my FPS jumped substantially in MMOs
that's nuts lol. I can't say I noticed a perceivable difference between running my ram at stock 3600 and 6000 (which makes no sense)
deep sapphire
that's nuts lol. I can't say I noticed a perceivable difference between running ...
yeah it was nuts
in limsa I was getting like 70 FPS at 4K which I just assumed thats how it was
but then I got the CL30 ram and it went up to 120
deep sapphire
right
sly elk
i forgot, did you just load the xmp config or did you tweak your voltage and stuff?
deep sapphire
i forgot, did you just load the xmp config or did you tweak your voltage and stu...
first I tried XMP profile, PC wouldnt boot
then I tried to enter them manually
still didnt work
figured maybe my bios was out of date which it was so I tried that
still didnt work
then I read reviews online
tons of people on both AMD and intel saying the same shit
so I got 32GB of CL30 6000 ram
loaded up XMP profile
no problems booted up instantly
sly elk
I don't use my macbook that often, but when I do it makes me wanna buy a studio display lol. That nice crisp retina screen and the shiny finish. Makes it soooo nice to look at.
sly elk
lol they're both pretty sweet
although it's hilarious that it costs almost the same as the 27" 5k imac (that had practically the same screen)
I think the imac was $1799 and the screen is $1599
to be fair, the hardware the iMac included wasn't really worth much hahahaha
one thing that bugs me is I'd want the model with the adjustable height stand
and I feel like the 27" looks goofy with it, because I'm pretty sure that the stand is the same "$1000 stand" except it doesn't have the magnetic head the XDR stand does - so it looks a little mismatched for size
sly elk
vroom vroom
hehe I ran a bios update
let's see if enabling expo works now
I found an amusing motherboard setting where you can tell it to retry the memory test x times before giving up
ahhh this really gets old fast
after like 5 restarts it finally booted into windows
i wonder what the ram settings are
seems it actually worked
i'm actually not surprised though, the expo profile tells it to use friggin 1.4v on the memory lol 😄
and 1.3v vsoc
last time I did this I was running like 1.2v memory and 1.2v vsoc lol 😄
it worked fine but wouldn't always boot >>
sly elk
quilted wood tops look so cool
real edge
it needs more fans
sly elk
hmm that was weird
the psu fan was on and making a lot of noise for a while
after power cycling, it stayed on for a bit and finally turned off :]
odd sand
Oh yeah the new cordless fans everyone keeps getting sued over right now heh
sly elk
?
sly elk
also wow that latest firmware update that came out last month for my motherboard seems to have totally fixed memory overclocking stability
4x16gb ddr6000 cl30 seems happy now lol
odd sand
It is rather curious they all come out with a similar tech advanced at the same time. So I wonder if Lian Li actually invented it, or if some 3rd party actually invented the process and Lian Li is merely suing over the specific implementation
sly elk
TIL phanteks is from the netherlands
potent arrow
God it's the aio pump situation all over again
sly elk
idk. Making fans that lock together is a bit more novel than making a waterblock+waterpump combo
sadly after seeing what i've seen, I wouldn't buy the lian-li fans because they seem to like burning out LEDs? lol
odd sand
But like Corsair just advertised their new interlocking fan/low cabling solution recently as well.
potent arrow
I only really use unify fans for clients
No issue for like the last two or three years
sly elk
unify fans?
that said, haven't had any issue with those strimer cables
but i also don't run them at full bright white which will burn them out lol
odd sand
there is one vaguely USB-C looking cable that connects the triple fan block to the controller box on the back of the case.
sly elk
there is one vaguely USB-C looking cable that connects the triple fan block to t...
oh yea I've seen that. Honestly I think corsair is currently off the deep end in $$$$
odd sand
I bought the H150i when I got the 13900k and the price was kinda outrageous, but that was during covid so kinda everything was
I did manage to find a sale+rebate that knocked it down to like $140 from $200 tho
wise jay
thats hot
sly elk
yea
wise jay
ya Ive seen nothing but bad stuff about lianli fans. They cost alot and burn out way too easily. Ive yet to have a fan burn out and Id be pissed if something cost the same or more than a noctua fan and burned out
sly elk
i never had an rgb fan of any brand burn out on me, but I did have a corsair h115i platinum AIO where some of the RGB LEDs in the pump head burned out after 3 years
I asked for a warranty replacement in year 4. Had to pay like $40 for shipping because they made me send it from california to georgia ....
and then they gave me a newer, but cheaper model without rgb fans 😦
wise jay
rip
sly elk
oh well, used it in my 2nd build lol
i had already replaced it with an h150i elite capellix + LCD hehehe
as much as I enjoy that, I'd never recommend it to anyone because it's such a waste of money
wise jay
ya this current build is the first one that I actually care about rgb somewhat
sly elk
unless they buy it because they want it!
wise jay
I mean I was trying to get an lcd screen on my cooler just because i could but it was decent bit more than what I got so I passed on it
I went with a Deepcool LT720 for this build. $111
I think it was like triple that for any of the decent lcd coolers
sly elk
those are cool
yea pretty much
i think I paid 250 for my aio and then $95 for the screen
sly elk
do I regret it? nah 😄
wise jay
no anime booty smh
sly elk
i could have saved a few bucks if I purchased the bundle
but the lcd with the transparent housing is something corsair only sold on their website at the time haha
wise jay
rip
sly elk
here
wise jay
lmao
sly elk
you can set it to play a slideshow/loop of gifs
wise jay
sly elk
that looks sick
first off, I really dig that particular AIO lol. I've seen them a couple times and thought they were cool.
wise jay
ya my gpu doesnt hit orange quite right so i have it set to all purple most of the time
sly elk
second you have one of my favorite GPUs lol
it's like that and the zotac
third the fans look nice
you really need to get some nicer power cables though
wise jay
Those pictures are like 2 seconds apart and my shitty phone camera cant keep the color right.
wise jay
its the same color in both pictures
the tinted lianli case is super nice. My friend has an all white build with the regular glass and its like a clean room. The lights in mine feel so tasteful
sly elk
but yea, it's nice to do an 'rgb matters' build at least once hahaha
wise jay
ya and I said previously i saved a good bit cheaping out on pccooler brand fans because they tested well
sly elk
i originally built my current setup with 2x16 g-skill rgb and sent it back to get 4x16 corsair vengeance rgb because..... I really didn't like how the 2 sticks of g-skill looked
wise jay
ya I got 2 32 GB for a good price so I went with that
sly elk
2x32, especially when ddr5 is concerned, is appropriate lol
as I mentioned earlier, 4x ddr5 tends to have OC stability issues
but heyy works now
wise jay
ya and I think I have it clocked at 5800 right now because 6000-6400 was causing alot of unnecessary instability
I went with the cooler master vertical bracket and theres almost 0 sag on my card which is nice. My friend got the lianli kit and there is very noticeable sag
I highly recommend that kit personally. Its much larger than the lian li one and its quite clear from just looking at it that it would support it better
I dread needing to remove the card though. Getting the ribbon cable into the motherboard was such a bitch.
sly elk
hehe
my case has a little bracket thingy for holding GPUs
i think vertical mounting is better though in terms of eliminating sag
wise jay
part of it was for style and the temps on the O11 case showed it helps from many people testing it
for the cost of the build I wasnt going to sweat 60 dollars for the kit when it has a functional purpose along with showing me those sexy chevrons
sly elk
lol
dude shows adjusting the height on the samsung and the power cable falls off while adjusting
ahh it's so frivolous but this is kinda how/why the other costs more
wise jay
lol falls off. Bro that shit shot off lmao
sly elk
oh damn it did
wait was it even connected in the first place
it wasn't
i betr it fell off when he was turning it around
but that's such a common problem with height adjustable displays that I still buy it hahahaha
rotating stands = broken HDMI cables
wise jay
my current monitor came with a nice locking dvi cable and the squeezing unlock always makes me worry Im going to mess up the female connection when i move stuff around
sly elk
Displayport? Yeah I hear ya lol
They do make displayport cables without thqt locking plug
wise jay
ya its a really good cord its just a pain when i gotta unhook it
umbral moss
I am once again reminding everyone that SDI is the superior high-definition cable format
HDMI and DP can get fucked
glass prism
So question; will ffxiv be functional on ps remote play? Hotel Wi-Fi doesn’t seem to do bad at all
(Definitely turning off mentor status so I don’t look like a complete buffoon)
austere socket
no idea DG, sorry 
also yeah I hate the locking plug on displayport
it's one of the worst ones I have to use, gotta squeeze it so hard to feel confident you'll get it
Ethernet plugs are a dream by comparison
sharp star
So question; will ffxiv be functional on ps remote play? Hotel Wi-Fi doesn’t see...
that depends on the hotel and if both devices can detect each other over LAN
So I can't give you a definitive answer
minor hollow
So question; will ffxiv be functional on ps remote play? Hotel Wi-Fi doesn’t see...
I've been to a few hotels where the wifi blocks whatever ports are used in remote play
Then when I switch off hotel wifi to 5g, it works
But that defeats the point lol
glass prism
I've been to a few hotels where the wifi blocks whatever ports are used in remot...
I just use my phone and a backbone
cerulean talon
Imagine not using 6ghz
potent arrow
I'm not made of money!!!
umbral moss
just have money 6head
don't be poor, being poor is for losers
thanks for coming to my ted talk
potent arrow
I just bought a omada hardware controller and I'm broke
cerulean talon
I just bought a omada hardware controller and I'm broke
Just need more unifi gear.
modest moss
buy less robot toys
sly elk
You should just be made of money.
I think sarah spent all their money on hardware to sell
potent arrow
buy less robot toys
No
My expenses so far this month:
4k on networking garbage and server upgrades
200$ on gunpla
271747291837281$ on the neon
sly elk
cerulean talon
My expenses so far this month:
4k on networking garbage and server upgrades
200$...
You can pay my 750$ power bill if you want too, thanks.
sly elk
it always cracks me up how the topology doesn't recognize the other 2 are controlled via vpn tunnel
potent arrow
no
umbral moss
My expenses so far this month:
4k on networking garbage and server upgrades
200$...
me except just the car costs 
potent arrow
I'm setting up the new r720 and somehow it's using 300w
cerulean talon
cerulean talon
Processors probally aren't sleeping.
Also, my favourite dedicated server host FINALLY GOT RYZENS IN STOCK. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
potent arrow
I don't really have a use for it when I have 8u worth of server hardware existing
umbral moss
7950x3d
potent arrow
I'm not even sure where I'm gonna stick this massive 2 u ass pos
dapper nymph
does anyone recognize what this is? briefly happens for less than a second on google chrome rarely
paper tusk
nvidia graphics card?
...
Small checkerboard like pattern may randomly appear in Chromium based applications [3992875]
...```known issue in current driver
dapper nymph
i see
only issue is
it's been awhile since i last updated geforce
has it been broke for a while now?
sly elk
dull garnet
```Open Issues:
...
Small checkerboard like pattern may randomly appear in C...
i did wonder that was happening. glad it isn't my video card
paper tusk
it also happened to me in firefox and I thought my video card failed 😐
it was right before my tv shit the bed
pseudo scaffold
hi, any other controller-users having an issue with the game not recognizing a ps4 dual shock controller after the patch? was working fine before, if i cant get this to work i cant play at all 😦
lost python
crazy how absolutely useless google has become lately
cant count the times i looked for something and page 1 had multiple phishing sites or completely unrelated results
dull garnet
seo let's gooo
umbral moss
crazy how absolutely useless google has become lately
enshittification
the service isn't for you it's for shareholders
wide hill
looks like the new cloud servers that ffxiv is using is google: 35.203.99.71
can't say that AWS US_EAST_1 is down anymore
umbral moss
tl;dr the surface studio 2 gets domed by a comparably priced MBP in perf/$ in gaming, productivity, and battery life
intel is so fucking bad at mobile CPU designs
dull garnet
yeah no x86 cpu is going to compare to a macbook
golden stream
tl;dr the surface studio 2 gets domed by a comparably priced MBP in perf/$ in ga...
ain't count that surface stuff is unable to be user upgradable
my boss is still with her surface w10 8gb memory and imma be like yike
umbral moss
it's really annoying that the surface pro is the right size and form factor but the hardware is so fucking bad
if you take a surface pro off AC support it croaks in like 4 hours
a macbook is going for like 14
golden stream
if you take a surface pro off AC support it croaks in like 4 hours
sounds worse than a steam deck
umbral moss
it is
intel CPUs have miserable power gating
just awful on mobile
they don't even perform like desktop CPUs to justify the bad battery life
golden stream
at least in current state ya
umbral moss
meteor lake isn't going to be any better lmao
anyone who thinks adding 40 E cores is going to improve battery life is huffing high-grade copium
golden stream
lmao-ing in 12th gen and a beast DDR4
nahhhh it won't solve the battery issue
tho mac and ARM are kinda weirde, and ngl I still don't understand mac but gudluck for apple they ditched intel
wide hill
uuuh
am i running 32-bit bash?
or is it that raspberry pi is running 32-bit?
NOOOOO
???
potent arrow
LOL
wide hill
goddamn it, and i really don't want to reinstall the OS
i got all my homeassistant and zwave setup right here
cmon
welp, i guess i gotta do it then, someday...
no wonder, i installed 32 bit os on rpi4 before the 64 bit was even out
sly elk
lol oh good grief
so I am trying to get my bro into more modern ways of recording tv, so I bought that tablo network dvr thingy right
wraith agate
"Hey, uhh experienced any malfunctions? No? Good, please do not RMA"
sly elk
and a new cheap roku so he can watch his recorded tv from his bedroom
aaaaand the roku chokes hard on the video
like it straight up 100% can't stream lmao
paper tusk
D:
sly elk
ahh speaking of that, that latest bios update really seems to have fixed my motherboard's ability to run 4x16 ddr5-6000 lol 😄
though, it... does take a little longer to boot when OC'd, I think......
hrmmm who was it here that has both beyerdynamic and sennheisers?
I wonder how durable the hd599s are, I want to recommend a pair of open cans for my oldest bro when he's at his desk
but they've got to be durable lol
and at $103, the hd599 se look perfect for him! ... if they're durable enough
otherwise I'm going to recommend dt990 premium edition lol, I know my dt880s are quite durable sooo
modest moss
hrmmm who was it here that has both beyerdynamic and sennheisers?
I think @dull garnet maybe
sly elk
thanks! 🙂 I'd love to hear their opinion about the 2 in terms of durability, if they feel like it ^_^
snow cypress
Is it normal for the ryzen 7 5800x to run hot? Or should I get a better cpu cooler? Using the NZXT kraken x53
modest moss
how hot is hot
snow cypress
wise jay
good god is that 83 C?
wise jay
ya Im honestly questioning if everything is working properly but i dont know anything about the 5800x
modest moss
do you actually have a game running, or just the launcher updating?
if that's idle I'd be concerned
snow cypress
just the launcher
modest moss
see if hwinfo64 says the same thing
snow cypress
snow cypress
was wondering if I should probably get a different cpu cooler
wise jay
do you have sufficient fans in the first place? The fans on your case and radiator might not be cutting it
snow cypress
1 back fan and 1 top fan that came with the case
neon shell
wise jay
whats your fan setup like? Which are pushing out air and which are pulling in air?
snow cypress
the back fan is pulling air and the top fan is pushing
wise jay
what about the radiator?
modest moss
did you install the cooler yourself
that's an expensive aio, it should be much colder I'd think
@hard drift this AMD shit is much too hot right
snow cypress
yea I installed it at the front
modest moss
wondering if there's either too much or not enough thermal paste
or if you left the plastic sticker on
hard drift
<@168185424286711808> this AMD shit is much too hot right
Yea but the 5800x was known to run hot anyways
hard drift
or if you left the plastic sticker on
modest moss
but not 83c idle hot
hard drift
Yeah, i would check if the pump is actually working or if you left the sticker on
modest moss
not totally, but just the launcher patching xiv
hard drift
not totally, but just the launcher patching xiv
I mean tbf installing games and shit made my cpu hot
modest moss
janky
snow cypress
got the cpu the beginning of September, thought I put a good amount of paste on (sticker removed, I did almost forget though)
hard drift
got the cpu the beginning of September, thought I put a good amount of paste on ...
Is it screwed down enough?
snow cypress
yea all the way but not too tight
sly elk
i'm not sure what to think here
does your cooler tell you liquid temp?
and what is your ambient temp?
like, if your cooler gets hot then you're making contact lol. But I'm not sure where the temp sensor is on your cooler.
snow cypress
ok just did a game of overwatch and my max temp was 82-83
hard drift
ok just did a game of overwatch and my max temp was 82-83
Nah that’s awful
hard drift
ok just did a game of overwatch and my max temp was 82-83
Are you sure it’s tight enough and that the pump is fully working
sly elk
one way to check if the pump is working is to feel the tubes at the pump
if one feels really hot and the other doesn't, your pump is... not running or clogged or something
hard drift
Did you connect the pump
modest moss
not ideal
snow cypress
Problem #2
Looking around the motherboard and only seeing 1 chasis fan port
hard drift
Problem #2
Looking around the motherboard and only seeing 1 chasis fan port
it doesn't really matter what the port is called
as long as it's a fan/pump port
i would try and keep atleast one plugged into a cpu fan port though as your mb might throw up errors if it sees 0 for rpm
sly elk
did it not come with a splitter already
also it looks to me like the only connector to the motherboard is a pump tachometer
the x53's pump is powered off sata and interfaces with the computer through usb
snow cypress
Cleaned dust off of radiator and fans
Gonna clean off and reapply paste
Now is it true that I only need to put a dot the size of a pea or should I put a bit more?
paper tusk
safer to use too much than too little (X or / with dots in the missing top L/bottom R)
(if are a smartass, a thin circle in the middle but applying paste is kind annoying given the thickness varies by brand)
sly elk
noctua says 5 dots but I honestly prefer the 'put some and spread it thin with a card' method
sharp star
wasn’t there a GN video about this a few years back
sly walrus
gn
sly elk
probably, but when it comes to something like this you either get it 100%, 95%, or fail
like either it doesn't make contact, it makes contact 'good nuff', or it makes perfect contact and shaves another 2-3c off in the most ideal situation
sharp star
https://youtu.be/EUWVVTY63hc okay yeah I found it
the thumbnail still gives me psychic damage
sly elk
20 minutes and 57 seconds of Steve talking about thermal paste
but if you have higher than expected temps, it usually means you didn't seat the heatsink/waterblock correctly (or forgot to take the piece of plastic off!)
umbral moss
the black magic of TIM application
if you have a flat sink and source surface it doesn't matter what you do with the paste
you could draw a little dick with the TIM before you apply it
hell, the paste itself is almost irrelevant, people have used fuckin toothpaste lmao
drifting knot
New to PC building, but can someone explain the “scared/nervous to update bios” memes
Like this one for example
inland mauve
well the BIOS is one of the most fundamental components of a motherboard
if something goes wrong with it, then the computer can't boot
and you can't even access the BIOS itself anymore if you're unlucky
you can easily brick an entire motherboard if you fuck up the BIOS
drifting knot
you can easily brick an entire motherboard if you fuck up the BIOS
What would cause a fuck up during the update? Id assume stuff like power outages right?
inland mauve
What would cause a fuck up during the update? Id assume stuff like power outages...
the same thing that can go wrong with any other software update, really
but unless the BIOS has some recovery functionality, you're screwed, you can't just start over
inland mauve
some modern BIOSes have a second version of their software stored in read-only format that they can recover from if the main software no longer works
modest moss
Most boards now tend to have a dual bios so it's less of an issue
Back in the day it was legit scary
inland mauve
if you want to update your BIOS just make sure you do your reserach first
modest moss
Yeah
inland mauve
know exactly what BIOS you have, what you need to do to update it, what can go wrong, and what you should do if it goes wrong
modest moss
Actually rtfm
dull garnet
*UEFI
I had a dual bios board like 15 years ago
Gigabyte even had a quad bios feature at one point
My current board has one bios, but I think flashback can recover a bad flash
odd sand
lmao I love that they caught it on security cam https://youtu.be/VJFaXwnixxM?t=15
The irony is I think the airpods survived, but the phone didn't.
So much for IP67 water resistance huh
Oh right, the phone stayed in the pocket for a long time after that
Hmm that's interesting. Case with a flip stand like a Switch https://electronics.sony.com/mobile/smartphone/professional-smartphones/p/xqzcbdq-b
Holy shit this thing is huuuuge https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Charger-Desktop-Charging-Station/dp/B0BZ3FNZ5W
dull garnet
sony phones are great if you enjoy sharp depreciation
umbral moss
Actually rtfm
make this a !bios command
the process for bios flashing is pretty much the same "put Specific Named file in FAT32 USB drive, put USB drive in Specific Port on board, pres butan" but you should read the goddamn instructions before you break your $700 board
wide hill
"bios update... do not turn off computer"
user: aight, i will plug off the computer
umbral moss
the USB key method is a nailbiter because you never know if the fucking thing actually worked until you power on the chip
you just get a cryptic "if the light stops blinking you're good"
there's no like, "red = working, green = done", just an epilepsy generator until it finishes
That’s a huge improvement from the three years of OS upgrades and five years of security support Google promised for its previous flagships, and it rivals the lifespan Apple is known for providing its iPhones. If there’s one thing that makes a higher price a little easier to swallow, it’s the promise that you’ll be able to get many more years of use out of your device.
if only pixel phones lasted anywhere near as long as iphones
the pixel 6 I have feels like it's about to die and I've only had it for like a year lmao
dull garnet
i've had mine 2 years and it still feels great
umbral moss
I can't really express how much I dislike my pixel 6
odd sand
sony phones are great if you enjoy sharp depreciation
That's literally the case for anything that isn't a samsung galaxy S or apple iphone
lost python
bold of you to throw samsung in there
dull garnet
not like the sony
real edge
ive had my oneplus 5t for years now and it is still good
lost python
the phone depreciates itself because of all the forced bloatware
odd sand
And that's also assuming the phones are 2 years old or less, outside of that good luck getting any trade in value
umbral moss
most phones are only worth something as recycled ewaste
dull garnet
ive had my oneplus 5t for years now and it is still good
custom rom?
umbral moss
the gold in the contacts is worth more than the phone itself
real edge
no
odd sand
It doesn't matter anyways, bc I hold onto phones for 4-5 years
real edge
its just stock android
dull garnet
*oxygenos
umbral moss
the less modification the better, honestly
dull garnet
i had a oneplus 6t before my pixel 6, wouldn't own one again
lost python
well yeah oneplus by default uses their own OS outside of a few exceptions
odd sand
For example, I bought my mom an iphone 10 around the same time I got mine, and it says her tradein value would be $150. My Razer Phone2 says $50 so either way isn't much
lost python
For example, I bought my mom an iphone 10 around the same time I got mine, and i...
thats crazy. over here the used market value for a standard iphone 10, no plus ultra max pro, is still averaging 250
odd sand
I mean, I suppose you could try ebay or something but how many of those actually sell?
dull garnet
you've clearly never sold a phone on ebay
lost python
cant talk about other regions but i rarely see a posting up for longer than a few days
lost python
especially for iphones
dull garnet
yep
odd sand
I can't stand iOS and everyone and their mother has a Samsung Galaxy so I'm kinda meh on them as well
So I just buy a phone with the expectation I hold onto it until I run it into the ground or I gift it to relatives kids
lost python
id like samsung more if it didnt come preloaded with apps you cant remove
umbral moss
I don't dislike ios but apple fucked me over like 12 years ago so I haven't bought an apple product since 
dull garnet
i've owned enough samsung to never buy one again
odd sand
I just find iOS so restrictive and navigating the OS is awkward and obtuse
It's like bumper lanes at bowling
lost python
they have great performance though, even after apple locks down clockrates because the phones are overheating
dull garnet
probably just stick iphone or pixel going forward. i don't really use anything that isn't on either of the stores on my phone anyway
odd sand
I don't play many games so I've never had an issue with that before the battery is already going as well
Like mine is 4yo and still plays Star Rail fine
umbral moss
my pixel 6 chugs if there's enough dot procs in star rail
and doesn't enjoy the same in MLA
dull garnet
i don't play games on my phone lol
lost python
i just dont like pixels because i dont trust google enough with anything
knowing my luck, the day i get a pixel is probably the day google announces they shut down their phone production
umbral moss
that'll be the pixel 8 in all likelihood lmao
the problem is that LG pulled out of mobile and windows phone died (RIP superior phone OS )
lost python
and everyone else is still trying so hard to be a bigboy and sell an overpriced phone without having anything that is remotely worth that sum
umbral moss
the pixel 8 definitely isn't worth nine hundred ninety nine US dollars
lost python
a bit like AMD graphics cards
more like nvidia with literally anything that isnt a 4090
umbral moss
just because you price it as a premium product doesn't mean it is a premium product
dull garnet
i didn't think the pro was worth the premium when i was buying the 6
you get an extra camera and a slightly nicer screen? meh
sly elk
For example, I bought my mom an iphone 10 around the same time I got mine, and i...
the rule with those sorta things sometimes end up being: The difference in initial purchase price == difference in tradein value lol
sometimes**
lost python
sucks that apple will never be an option for me, because i do not want to get a smaller phone but the next best option is the pro max and its 1500€+ lmao
sly elk
so far the best 'resale' I've seen is with samsungs where they give you a fat discount for trading in
it's pretty damn funny
dull garnet
i'll probably get an a model next time, i'd like a smaller handset
sly elk
Craigslist: I'll give you $350
Samsung: Upgrade your shitty S23 to the new S24 for only $100!
but samsungs really aren't worth it that first time unless you buy like 6 months in when they're practically worthless
as it stands, iphones have awful trade in deals. AWFUL. They're all of the "send us your last gen phone and we'll give you 800 off in 36 monthly credits if you have the most expensive plan we sell!"
iirc you need to pay t-mobile like $90 a month to qualify for that deal this time ("Go5G plan")
sly elk
the pixel 8 definitely isn't worth nine hundred ninety nine US dollars
If it were any other brand lol. Pixel phones are trash. :3
umbral moss
I just want to be able to play video games with a long battery life
sly elk
I can't stand iOS and everyone and their mother has a Samsung Galaxy so I'm kind...
the problem is every other android phone gets like 1 software update if you're lucky
and the most obnoxious phone company in the world is OnePlus
umbral moss
using my phone to star rail for an hour on the train knocks off 50% of the battery on my pixel
sly elk
OnePlus is the Tesla of android phones
umbral moss
it's so fuckin brutal watching the battery die in real time
1% per minute with the brightness pulled down
sly elk
oh yeah, then what's this
A Galaxy Fold ripoff that can't even last a month without breaking
dull garnet
do any phones do well under a gaming load for any kind of real duration
umbral moss
I mean, if the iphone 15 can play fuckin RE4 remake I imagine it can handle star rail for two hours lmao
dull garnet
that has nothing to do with battery life
sly elk
I thought it was hilarious when the fold was announced and people in the pixel subreddit were like
dull garnet
A Galaxy Fold ripoff that can't even last a month without breaking
following samsung to a tee then
sly elk
pixel build quality on a folding phone?!
dull garnet
making a folding phone has to be like a shareholder expectation thing
who is buying these
sly elk
following samsung to a tee then
if it makes you feel any better, I don't expect any folding screen to last more than 2 years of daily use right now
and that's with someone who doesn't usually break their phone
not someone who manages to smash their iphone even when carrying it in one of those giant hideous otterbox cases
i've already seen forum/reddit posts from people who bought a flip/fold that have a habit of breaking phones
their shit didn't even last a week lol
problem is if you drop a folding phone on the corners where the hinge is, it'll basically break the hinge
dull garnet
No doubt. It just feels like premature tech to me even if well kept and Samsung are already on gen 4 lol
modest moss
@dull garnet you were right
sly elk
and few cases protect the hinge well - the ones that do tend to also stress it lol
yea plus there's different ways of supporting the screen when closed
modest moss
that £23 netbook was doa so I sent it back, they then restocked and I bought another for £20 and that arrived doa too
sly elk
like samsung and a few others go with the teardrop fold
but soem others just slam the thing 180 degrees shut lol
dull garnet
that £23 netbook was doa so I sent it back, they then restocked and I bought ano...
How does that make me right? Besides telling you that you're buying e-waste
sly elk
also folding screens come with a crease 
modest moss
you told me not to bother
sly elk
which only disappears if you're looking straight at the phone!
dull garnet
Even if it worked you will wish you hadn't bothered
odd sand
Probably restocked the same device and sent it back to you
sly elk
the thing I love about phones right now is you can spend <$200 on a motorola or something
and get 95% of an iPhone 15 Pro
I bet by now you even get wireless charging and nfc wallets and all that crap too
modest moss
it's not the same unit, the first had a swollen battery, but yeah they probably blindly sent out returns
sly elk
but marketing is a powerful drug xD
dull garnet
honestly the most intensive thing i do on my phone is discord or insta reels so i don't need much power
sly elk
that week between the iphone 15 launch and stores having them? made me want one real bad xD
but I'm glad I didn't waste my money
dull garnet
it's not the same unit, the first had a swollen battery, but yeah they probably ...
old thinkpad
dull garnet
but I'm glad I didn't waste my money
fomo is real 
sly elk
as for folding phones, I think the $1800-ish MSRP is fucking insane lol
you could buy an iphone and an ipad pro
and have a far better experience
dull garnet
nvidia man would blush at that price
sly elk
you could buy whatever else. rog phone. oneplus. that sony 5g camera phone thingy...
dull garnet
rog phone seems like a good idea until you have to use it as a phone
sly elk
oh yeah you could spend $1800 on a gaming GPU to play cyberpunk once a week and then let it spend 95% of its time idling
hates the 4090
dull garnet
more like 99.99%
sly elk
if you spent $1800 on a 4090 you can't make the argument that anything is a waste of money 😄
I mean you can
but I'll still laugh at you 😄
dull garnet
i spent £580 on a 4070 
sly elk
i mean i won't really laugh at you if it made you happy, I want you to be happy :3 and I'm not that kind of asshole
dull garnet
didn't feel good about it lol
sly elk
the msot frivolous waste of money I've done is anything related to sim racing
i bought a wheel, a wheel stand, a gpu for my old rig......
I used it twice
I really need to list that shit on craigslist
dull garnet
me spending £800 on a mba and barely using it the last 6 months
i feel like its worth hanging onto though, realistically it'll be perfect for any time i need it for the coming decade probably
real edge
i mean i won't really laugh at you if it made you happy, I want you to be happy ...
580 pounds is quite a bit more than 550euro or dollars
idk about conversion rates
ohh wew
its 670euro
700$
yea thats quite a bit more
dull garnet
i might have been able to get a better deal but i wanted the founder edition
real edge
there is the asus dual OC that has an 8pin connector
real edge
where did you see that
cold yacht
Think I spent $600 on my 3070
dull garnet
techpowerup
cold yacht
I feel like I wasted money
real edge
the 4060ti fe review says the 4070 idles at 9watts