technology-discussion

[real edge]

but its what I am running since he did it on my cpu

second

[modest moss]

first is actually england, second is UK/GB but that's just me being a picky local

I bet either would work fine anyway lol

[real edge]

I did tell him it might be too much

but he said it has always worked for him so its what he goes with

[modest moss]

will just depend how thick he's doing the lines

[real edge]

ye

hes at your age shue and has worked on my pc ever since I got mine 15? 16? years ago

holy shit time flies

I've gone through... 4 CPUs? and 3 gpus since then

from a dual core i3 from the late 2000s, to a 4690k, to a 2700x to a 5800x3d
from an ati radeon 5850HD, to a 960 that I quickly ditched for a 1070

technically 2 gpus based on how long I've had the 960 for which was a few weeks'

so I've found that CPUs tend to age worse than GPUs for me

storage wise? I still have my first ssd I ever got, its now solely working only on windows, I've since moved my games to my NVME ssd and I have some old games on an HDD

the first ssd works perfectly fine but it is fairly old

I got it during the 4690k era

the diagnostics on it say that its perfectly fine but it has like 45k power on hours

[potent arrow]

My life
Core 2 duo
2500k
3900x

[wraith agate]

Also

UK flag
Helps even spread
Colonization much?

[real edge]

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZS-4PgD4SI

[sly elk]

I bought two ssdd as my first. They were 240gb ocz arc 100s, one of the first Toshiba ocz things

They were really cheap but good enough lol

[dull garnet]

Northwood P4
Prescott 2M P4 630
E4400
Q6600
i3-2100T
i5-3570K
i7-7700K
i5-2500K
i7-2700K
R5 2600
R5 5600X
R7 5800X3D

SiS Xabre 200
FX5600
X700
X550
6800GT
7950GT
9800GTX+
8800GS
7300LE
8800GTX
4890
6850
670
970
670
1060
1070 Ti
3060 Ti
4070

[sly elk]

I am glad I have owned some PowerPC machines

[wise jay]

ya but Ive owned an eMachine

[dull garnet]

Never obsolete

[wise jay]

It was so bad. Worked well enough though. It was my first personal computer. I could run old wow on it

That shit BSOD'd so often. I had to reinstall windows every few months

but hey. As a cheap personal computer for a kid it was fantastic

[dull garnet]

Old wow could run on a potato

[wise jay]

any good mmo back then could. Lots couldnt though

[wraith agate]

There were times our machines barely could

Back then potatoes were the peak personal computers

I remember when the first dual core CPU debuted

[wise jay]

ya i definitely wouldnt have been able to join raids back then but I could do alot of the content

[dull garnet]

I remember when the Sims 2 came out and how nearly every woman I knew was complaining about the performance lol

[wraith agate]

Lmao

[proven oyster]

Once more I digging into laptops
I found my baseline choice but I am not certain if there are alternatives... Or better choices with an extra lil investment

[dull garnet]

It kinda needed a dedicated video card

[wraith agate]

Well round em up, Mlem

[inland mauve]

iirc when Maxis was working on The Sims 2, the servers burned down or got flooded or something late in development, and they had to rush to rebuild the game and get it out of the door

[wraith agate]

A 3050, 8gb Ddr4, 12th gen i5

I think that's a neat one

But 15k? That better not be USD

[proven oyster]

It MXN
Mexican pesos

Although I love the fear it causes, when people assume its USD

It 900 bucks laptop

[graceful pine]

Yeah

Forgot the exchange rate currently

But I know a peso is a lot less than a usd

[dull garnet]

I wouldn't wish a gaming laptop upon my worst enemy

[proven oyster]

I do plan to port my PC SSD of 500gb, (dunno if better to reinstall files on it or fine leaving it as, like Steam n FFXIV)
And also plan to buy another ram stick to make it 16

[graceful pine]

I have a cheap Lenovo with an external SSD for music purposes

Don’t actually game on it

But mobility when recording is useful

[proven oyster]

Current reasons for laptop
Ease of movement and able to settle anywhere with it
Internal battery cus I dunno enough about UPS, and this feels easier
And I don't need that much power, my most highest intensity game being...just FFXIV

And that's cus it's not well optimized

[graceful pine]

Is there not a consistent power source where you are or something

[proven oyster]

Just the neighborhood has random lights out moments
Cus
Why not

Once a month

Very windy, very hot, soso

Also lemme just say
At this price point, finding anything that isn't a 16 or 20 GTX series is weirdly hard

At this price point

[modest moss]

speedy flexing that he knew women

[dull garnet]

[proven oyster]

So to ask
I got told that a laptop 3050, compared to desktops, are more equivalent to 2050

True?

Mainly looking at Dawntrail and wanting to match a laptop to it's specs

[dull garnet]

there is no 2050

techpowerup for a 3050 mobile shows a relative performance around the same as a desktop 1650 or rx 470

[odd sand]

@dull garnet You went backwards in PC spec a few times there, did you have some blow up on your or something?

[dull garnet]

uh incompatibility with games i played, going periods having sold a pc, deciding to downgrade to what i "need"

[proven oyster]

I suppose the other wonder then is

How big is, for a laptop, an upgrade from 3050 to 3060

Cus from what I see, for me, that's a 33% price increase to get any laptop with a 3060

[dull garnet]

muuuch better

[proven oyster]

Where's the 50 mobile in that chart

[dull garnet]

50%

[proven oyster]

Eesh

I guess it would be worthy

Although 20k is a faaaair bit...but I can hold too

[modest moss]

do Lenovo deliver to Mexico?

there was a reasonably priced 4060 laptop linked earlier

@proven oyster

[proven oyster]

I'm not super sure

But I do know shipping kinda makes it way harsh

For now I'm keeping mostly to Amazon

Also promos and codes basically are null for me

[rose hornet]

First they have to put the orange filter over it

[proven oyster]

More questions, more learning

So I now know I need to chase a 3060
But at that point... Should I try to see if I can get a lucky 4060?

Iunno the difference of power between the two

... specially since it sounds the 40 series have a weird nuance of watts to keep in mind?

[deep sapphire]

The 4060 and 3060 are nearly identical in performance just the 4060 is more efficient

If you can get a better deal on the 3060 go that route

[proven oyster]

Right

What is the comparable AMD to 3060?

[deep sapphire]

RX6700/6800XT

[proven oyster]

Aighty

[deep sapphire]

Radeon mobile GPUs are almost non existent in gaming laptops though and if they are there they are paired with weird AMD SKUs

I still don’t understand AMDs CPU lineup in notebooks lmao

[proven oyster]

Fair

[sharp star]

what

read the channel name back to me

[prime current]

oih gfee sorry wrong channel

[proven oyster]

Isn't games just tech

[sly walrus]

all games are tech, but not all tech is games

[deep sapphire]

I can’t read

[paper tusk]

since the codes are ded this might work also https://www.newegg.com/obsidian-black-acer-nitro-5-an515-46-r5xn-gaming/p/N82E16834360253

6800H + 3070 ti

[proven oyster]

https://gyazo.com/f98833682cbf0240ebe02927cef79a00

gehe

[paper tusk]

:<

[proven oyster]

also 3700 TI?

[paper tusk]

this? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16834156431 12450H + 4060

[proven oyster]

Also same

[paper tusk]

typing are hard

fuck

[proven oyster]

You can tell the woes

Also my brother got a new Laptop

And im so sticking an endwalker benchmark for a sense of it

An MSI GF63 Thin 11UC

RTX 3050, i5-11400H

[paper tusk]

I have a similar setup lenovo and it's fine for 14 (edit: gen 12 i5, not gen 11)

(just make sure it has 16gb ram via 2 sticks for dual channel)

(or 2 sticks same cap in general)

[proven oyster]

It do

Honestly the main driving push on what i want to get with this new laptop is

"I want this to last from 7.0 all the way to end of 8.0, maybe a lucky 9.0"

[paper tusk]

link dump incoming
https://www.amazon.com/AN515-58-57Y8-i5-12500H-GeForce-Display-Keyboard/dp/B0BSLWGFXD i5-12500H +3050 ti 724 usd
https://www.amazon.com/Octa-Core-GeForce-Display-Backlit-AN17-41-R6L9/dp/B0BTQS4N1F 7 7840HS + 4050 (only one with 1tb ssd) 1000 usd
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-IPS-Type-i5-11400H-Processor-FX506HEB-RS53/dp/B0C4Q84N34 i5-11400H + 3050 ti (in case are ok with rolling the dice with asus) 880 usd
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Thin-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B0BT3CD75G i7-12650H + 4050 900 usd

[proven oyster]

the 1st one makes me laugh

Its a 20% discount

...With a shipping cost that literally makes it near what it was

[paper tusk]

x-x

[proven oyster]

But thank for options

[paper tusk]

np

[proven oyster]

Taps

Do Promos have a deadline?

That is, looking at the 1st one

[proven oyster]

okay now i feel just sites like newegg detest me

Right now i found out quite a wack thing. Checking out an Acer Nitro 5, with a GTX 4050

Acer Nitro 5 - 15.6" 144 Hz IPS - Intel Core i5 12th Gen 12500H (2.50GHz) - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop GPU - 16 GB DDR5 - 512 GB PCIe SSD - Windows 11 Home 64-bit - Gaming Laptop (AN515-58-56CH )

But... when i convert the site, into the Mexican site? What i get instead, is this:

Acer Nitro 5 - 15.6" 144 Hz IPS - AMD Ryzen 5 5000 Series 5600H (3.30GHz) - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Laptop GPU - 8 GB DDR4 - 512 GB PCIe SSD - Windows 10 Home 64-bit - Gaming Laptop (AN515-45-R0FN )

In fact, as i tested with a friend
These provide two different links... but for me, both show the latter in Mexican
And for them, in their Region... THey show the former ;D

F+cking sites intentionally preventing me access to the GOOD Stuff

[dreamy chasm]

Too much has never really been an issue

[dreamy chasm]

There's a noticeable improvement between the laptop 3060 and 4060 skus, actually

mostly bc the 4060 performs a lot better in the lower wattage ranges that most laptops restrict the gpus to

its kind of w/e on desktop, though

[deep sapphire]

Didn’t benchmarks show like within margins for a vast majority of titles

[dreamy chasm]

for desktop

yes

but a 4060 and a 3060 operating within similar wattage caps will have the 4060 pulling ahead noticeably

that said

i dont think they have a budget for a 3060 laptop

[proven oyster]

hi i am they

i think

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[proven oyster]

I generally do have time to access a 3060 though

The main gut feel is, i do think that i will likely wait for some sort of notable sale, which would give me leeway for it

Only woe is the fact that, bastards are negating me access to anything freshly new, alongside shipping costs being awful

[dreamy chasm]

Wait for a sale if your budget's tight, buy now if you need something new immediately

[proven oyster]

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Thin-144Hz-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B0BT3CD75G i7-12650H + 4050 900 usd

This laptop became +300 bucks

With shipping alone

[dreamy chasm]

Since you're getting a laptop your options are unfortunately pretty restricted within your budget

[proven oyster]

That i can imagine yea

Thankfully i at least don't hope or ask for much

[dreamy chasm]

Looking at amazon mx, I can't really find anything better than a 3050 laptop for 15k

[deep sapphire]

Gaming laptops are a risky buy because if you can’t afford a higher end one you’ll end up getting something with piss poor build quality and being they thermal cycle hard they don’t last long

[dreamy chasm]

Yeah

[proven oyster]

20k is about the range for A 3060, if i recall?

[dreamy chasm]

25k in your country

[proven oyster]

pain peko

[dreamy chasm]

Would just consider an actual PC unless portability is 100% important to you

[deep sapphire]

Yeah

Cheap gaming laptops are not worth it

[dreamy chasm]

Pretty sure you can get a good system for cheap within your budget using new parts, and still have room to get a UPS

[deep sapphire]

Even if you can find one with acceptable specs for the price you’ll pay for it with poor build quality where it starts failing after 1 year

[proven oyster]

I honestly just have zero clues on UPS

[sly elk]

and if you are considering portability but don't need gaming powerr when you're on the go, just get a cheap lightweight laptop for that lol

[proven oyster]

I mean its only for gaming this PC

[deep sapphire]

You should just build a desktop then

Or even buy one

You’ll get more value for your money and a system that will last much longer

[proven oyster]

Curiously checking Logical increments

A 15k laptop
or a 13k PC

Thats apparently the tier i am on to like, Match a 15k with the 3050 Ti Laptop

[deep sapphire]

Ima tell you from experience MSI laptops are dog shit and you will be very unhappy with your purchase

[proven oyster]

I haven't even looked at a MSI laptop

[deep sapphire]

Didn’t you post one above

[proven oyster]

The one i been eyeing mostly is Acer Nitro's line

[proven oyster]

Mostly me sassing the absurd shipping upcost

[deep sapphire]

Oh

[proven oyster]

https://www.amazon.com/AN515-58-57Y8-i5-12500H-GeForce-Display-Keyboard/dp/B0BSLWGFXD

This is the one i have an eye on right now

Which, with shipping, ends literally exactly the same price without the 20% discount

And it'd be a 3050 Ti, vs according to double checkings, a RX 6500-XT

...If i decided to buy a desktop prebuilt, what would be my choices?

With the target being Dawntrail's recommended specs, and including an UPS on it

[sly elk]

it's really hard to say if you're outside of the US

[proven oyster]

Trust me, im as lost as you

[sly elk]

also what do you need a UPS for?

i'm not saying you don't need one, but I'm curious what you need from it

[proven oyster]

An average of a monthly momentary electricity brownout

Like 1 minute short

And me just being
Exhausted of having that

[sly elk]

oh ok

then a reasonably sized UPS should be fine

also, it's worth noting that comparing a laptop gpu to a desktop gpu of the same name, may not be apples to apples

even if the manufacturers insist it is

[proven oyster]

So i heard

And i am keeping that in mind with the comparisons

Also do give me like

An example of a "Reasonably sized UPS"

[sly elk]

1000va or larger

[proven oyster]

As said, this is a literal breadth of tech that i have not an ounce of sense

[sly elk]

the ones shaped like a small tower,, not the ones that have plugs on the top

I mean it really depends on the type of UPS (some legit ones have plugs on the top) but I meant something like this

https://www.amazon.com/APC-Sinewave-Battery-Protector-BR1000MS/dp/B0779KYKLB

thing is, those only really power your computer for like 10 minutes

that's why i was asking what you want out of a UPS

[proven oyster]

Thats honestly enough for me

[sly elk]

because some places regularly have longer power outages lol

[proven oyster]

Sucks that apparently that same item

On the Mexican Amazon

is 6k pesos

In conversion, 360 ish bucks basically

[sly elk]

eh you can shop around, it doesn't have to be that model

[proven oyster]

Going off the "UPS 1000VA", the general price of

"Trusty" brands, is like

2-3k

[sly elk]

ahh ok, another thing to consider is the technology they use

some emulate AC power better than others

tbh it's frustrating nobody makes a PC power supply with some kinda built in UPS fallback option

it's asinine that you have to use an AC inverter lmao

[proven oyster]

This isn't convincing me to a Desktop PC ill admit

[sly elk]

lol

I understand.

https://www.amazon.com.mx/dp/B00429N192
that should be ok

-goes to look at other parts-

[proven oyster]

A 4k UPS, mrh

[sly elk]

wow that's fun

radeon 7600 for like $5500

[proven oyster]

Imagine if it was dollars

[sly elk]

i see a zotac 4060 for $6052 if you're dead set on nvidia

[proven oyster]

I am not really

[proven oyster]

But i am mostly keeping a sharp eye on that Acer Nitro pricing

[sly elk]

one of the reasons people here are so gung ho about building PCs is stuff like this

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X, MSI B650-P Pro WiFi, G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB DDR5-6000 Kit, Computer Build Bundle - $399.99

^ microcenter has some sick deals sometimes

if all you're after is the best bang for the buick build

add a radeon 7600 to that for $258, good 750w psu for $110, nice case for $150, and a good 2tb ssd for $100 (wow) , and you've got a build for $1018

still a bit more than that laptop though

[proven oyster]

Available for In-Store Pickup Only.

[sly elk]

that is one of the tough things I suppose but that desktop would smoke the shit out of that laptop

indeed, and the closest one is in tustin california probably

[proven oyster]

That is indeed where sales get whacky

I understand the boons of em

[sly elk]

unfortunately a 7700x is $329 on amazon by itself

[proven oyster]

But i also am... basically kinda f+cked because i am in my own space of deals

[sly elk]

yep, it's all tradeoffs 😦

[proven oyster]

And seemingly just A Generation behind too

[sly elk]

i'm not sure you'd be satisfied with a complete desktop build for $723 lol

[proven oyster]

I mean, i am willing to listen to a custom

But... ye know

Kinda gotta see if its even feasible

[sly elk]

but trying to maximize specs in a laptop at $723 is not going to yield you anything terribly satisfying either

i mean it might

yep! i understand 🙂

[royal forge]

Right

[proven oyster]

This is also why i kinda pointed out the price of the UPS

Since that does kinda dig into the cost of a PC

Right now i am working at around 900 budget

And its 900 budget, like, including all i need
From power of the laptop itself... to actual shipping costs, or costs of obtaining a UPS

I can stretch it to 1k too

But you know, choices n lack of deals n so

[royal forge]

They gave me such a narrow ass table

[sly elk]

sorry to hear that aoi

why such a narrow as stable?

[royal forge]

Cuz the landlord is a cheapskate

Probably bought the cheapest

[sly elk]

yea it looks like a tiny table

[real edge]

hm

why can't you buy your own and just take it when/if you leave?

[royal forge]

Hard to move

I have no space in my car as is

[real edge]

ahh I see

[potent arrow]

@royal forge is the desk technically your property now

it seems like ergonomic nightmare rn

If its technically yours, by a large chunk of wood and just put it on top

[sly elk]

could also try clampimng a monitor arm and having your screen hang off the back

but that might cause it to tip backwards lol

[potent arrow]

i WOULD

Not

do that

its gonna tip or the arm is gonna level break it

lmfao

[sly elk]

ehh while the desk is tiny, the top looks like a solid little piece of mdf

wouldn't be any worse than clamping a cheap ikea desk

i'd be more concerned about the desk tipping over lol

[potent arrow]

it looks so thin

[sly elk]

yea!

it looks tiny

[potent arrow]

its so easy to just

slap a top on it lol

you dont even need to screw it in if you dont own it

[sly elk]

c clamps!

but tipping that over might still be a concern ahhahaahja

[royal forge]

Nope

[potent arrow]

no screws then

slap a top on it

[dreamy chasm]

It's what I did with my desk

The top helped a lot

But I did have to secure it in place with some screws

Not sure if some sort of adhesive would work as an alternative

[potent arrow]

c clamps

theres tons of options

dont screw up your ergo by using a small desk

[royal forge]

Im worried the damned thing cant take the weight

[proven oyster]

How harsh

is a 4gb VRAM?

[sharp star]

very

you need at least 10GB to get by nowadays

8GB is pushing it

[proven oyster]

But for what?

[real edge]

4gb vram is no-no

[sharp star]

…Games? Especially when devs care less about optimization and slap DLSS/FSR on everything?

[real edge]

at least 8 nowdays

[proven oyster]

I am asking in the sense of like

I, whom doesn't ever buy AAA Games and is legit only on the scope of MMOs of repute

Wonder what even this vram is used for

Ultra settings?

I unno how to phrase it aside just, me not knowing why high VRAM is such in high demand

[potent arrow]

if it can take your monitor itll take a shitty piece of wood

you ahve my engineers promies on that

[royal forge]

I'll see if i can find a piece then

[real edge]

💀

[paper tusk]

128 bit memory. what is this, the days of the fx 5200? (I may or may not be looking at one for my upcoming dos/win98 monster)

[royal forge]

Vram is basically RAM for ur GPU.
Quick access memory for it to pull from.
One thing that VRAM is good for, is rendering things.
E.g. i do 3D renders. If I have a GPU with more vram, it can handle larger uh.. "parts" of the render at the same time, improving performance

So basically more VRAM to a certain extent means more performance

Kinda

Tech mentors pls correct if wrong

[lost python]

well its just memory, its not good at rendering or anything, it just has to pass along data quickly and without errors

[royal forge]

Ah ye

Just it handles larger uh

Larger textures better?

It loads faster since the cache is larger?

[quasi thicket]

textures and world geometry, yeah

[royal forge]

I just know i can render 8k pebbles so

[quasi thicket]

you need to fit everything required to render into VRAM, else you're going to need to use system memory to do that which is going to be Very Slow

or it might just crash depending on the game

[royal forge]

I dunoe if modding xiv needs more vram

Or much, that is

[lost python]

ye vram is pretty much entirely trimmed to speed and handling large amounts of data

[quasi thicket]

depends on what your mods are for, higher quality models/textures = more VRAM

[royal forge]

I think 4GB should be enough for mmos?

[lost python]

for ffxiv? for sure

[royal forge]

Unless ur doing 8k grape textures

[lost python]

textures are very lowres generally

[royal forge]

20k texture for zenos ass

Render each hair

[lost python]

my gf is using my old 980 with 4gb vram + mods and it runs just fine so yeah

[royal forge]

Each hair particle is simulated

[quasi thicket]

depends a lot on the game, if your mmo loads a big open world with lots of detail at once you'll need more but yeah xiv should be fine with less

wasn't that long ago we were running on the ps3

[lost python]

honestly, the bigger issue are the "modders" who make you pay for their shitty mod that then comes along with 70k tris vs the 3k that the vanilla version of that outfit had

[royal forge]

Oh man

Those fuckers

Cant even clean up their fuckin mesh

Models the fuckin tiny rings on the chainmail instead of a simple texture map

[lost python]

or just a billion polys on a flat surface

[royal forge]

Leather strap for the arm for the shield? I modelled the threads on that

[lost python]

i had one modder make a jacket mod but for whatever reason it had an entire body + undershirt and shirt below said jacket, including modeled nipples

you never saw any of that

the file for that stupid thing was 360mb

[inland mauve]

nipples

[real edge]

[royal forge]

Were the nipples textured

[potent arrow]

So how mods are made in ff14

Is that you load the fbx for the body mod

Then the jacket or w/e

[royal forge]

They're basically body replacements no?

[potent arrow]

So you have the skin still there

Yes they are

So part of the process is removing what's not seen

Uh seems like they skipped that lmfao

[royal forge]

U dont overlay the mesh. U replace it

Ye?

[potent arrow]

Ya

I merge the body and the shirt and remove not shown skin lmfao

[lost python]

i wouldnt care if it was just some newbie making a mod, but the person in question sold it for money. thats unacceptable lmao

[royal forge]

Show me the jacket?

[lost python]

uh idk if i still have it

wait

[royal forge]

Got a pic?

[lost python]

i might have a pic somewhere

[potent arrow]

see

base bibo

[inland mauve]

boob

[lost python]

dont have the exact one anymore, only have another i took apart

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120537229245284534/1121545219356241961/image.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120537229245284534/1121543606805733587/image.png left is vanilla, right is modded

[inland mauve]

more tris than the entirety of Ocarina of Time

[potent arrow]

lmao is that tbse base?

[lost python]

ye

[inland mauve]

did you censor the nipples

[potent arrow]

yerp

[inland mauve]

LMAO

[royal forge]

Hmmm

I camt exactly be sure

But there are people who use DAZ clothing and essentially repurpose it for game clothing

[potent arrow]

?

LIterally whats happening is the person is leaving TBSE base in the mod

[royal forge]

Just the torso mesh looks.. like a daz model one

[potent arrow]

Its not

its tbse

[royal forge]

Sorry. Not familiar with that

[potent arrow]

body replacement for male characters

just look up TBSE Xivmodarchive

cant link it here because schlong

@royal forge https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tj8Eg-FN5gwmasfc1AhiyqxATuqmfWjNK2CifDbmZ2o/edit

here read that, general guide

[royal forge]

Ah

Sorry. Its cuz DAZ models are the only ones i know that has such high res at the nipples kek

Side note, u can clean up the mesh by selecting the torso then Ctrl + L

[potent arrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/983944768801374288/1134841486899429416/image0.gif

[royal forge]

Save the anger for sulemil betrayal

[potent arrow]

one sec gonna reduce my pc to ashes by recalculating this mesh

[royal forge]

Are u just.. remeshin it?

[potent arrow]

textools

doing its thing

[royal forge]

Ah

[potent arrow]

is the worst

[royal forge]

Well

[lost python]

on my screenshot? the tbse body + a shirt + the actual jacked and shirt

all with stupidly high polycount

[potent arrow]

just explaining to aoi

[sharp star]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/31/23813761/8bitdo-retro-mechanical-keyboard-nintendo-famicom

[royal forge]

20Mbps is kinda piss poor speed ye?

[modest moss]

yes but it's fine for general browsing and gaming as long as the ping isn't awful

[real edge]

I used to have 20mbps

it was a massive pain in the arse to download any game

it took days sometimes

[dull garnet]

i have 20mbps

[lost python]

i misread that completely lol

[potent arrow]

LOL

@royal forge

Ignore the clipping

gotta do more resculpting

[minor hollow]

look

they took out the flowerpots

ff14 needs unnecessary high poly counts SOMEWHERE

modders just filling the void

[scenic turtle]

Has anyone played ff14 in VR?

[astral flint]

will only get into VR once it is fully 5 sensorial immersion.

I just wish current video cards wouldn't make your room melt without AC

[proven oyster]

A wonder
My PC has two drives, and I plan to port the second to the laptop
Is there any potential notes or issues that could cause, for games or programs, or...all 100% fine)

[kind rune]

I was thinking about upgrading to ultrawide but I'm worried that it'll be very hard to run dawntrail in high refresh ultrawide

The one I want is cheaper now too

[lost python]

whats your specs?

[kind rune]

Rtx 3080 12 gb i7 11700k and 32 gbs of ram

[lost python]

you will be fine

[kind rune]

In 1440p maybe

[lost python]

nah

[kind rune]

[lost python]

ffxiv really doesnt eat that much and 7.0 wont change much about that, because they want to keep the game available for as many people as possible

[kind rune]

[lost python]

its unlikely to eat much more than running it now with shaders and maybe a few mods already

[kind rune]

I'm hitting 90%+ gpu usage

[lost python]

which is normal if you run at uncapped fps or with a high fps limit in general

[kind rune]

Fair enough

[sly elk]

the minimum is becoming a 2060? or the recommended?

I suppose the definition of available for as many people as possible is ymmv lol

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-15-6-Laptop-Intel-Core-i3-1115G4-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-Spruce-Blue-Windows-11-Home-in-S-mode-15-dy2792wm/2195027585?athbdg=L1102&from=/search

ffxiv as it stands probably won't run on that ^

[proven oyster]

2060 is recommended

[modest moss]

min is 970

but I bet it runs on less anyway

[proven oyster]

Isn't Endwalker recommended

Kinda too good anyways?

That is, max settings and 1080 n so

Also I settled on an RTX 3050ti laptop
Because I can't find reason to pay more than that for what I use

[modest moss]

you'll probably be happy with it

[modest moss]

yeah endwalker recommended basically became 7.0 min

and we know the game runs ok on worse hardware than the EW min spec

so if they stick to that kind of leeway it should be fine

[wide hill]

i think it'll struggle now a bit more with now the more detailed world

and, where shadows are

but there is probably a setting for it

so "minimum requirements" is probably what you would have selected for medium settings?

[proven oyster]

I still wonder on the drive situation

[kind rune]

I wanna know what the new ao method is

[proven oyster]

I basically wonder if I should reinstall FFXIV
Or just full toss it in

[modest moss]

explain

[proven oyster]

I got a SSD on my main PC, with steam n FFXIV in it
If I remove it and put it on the laptop, which does have a SATA bay, would it be fine?

Or better just fully reinstall on the laptop

[modest moss]

XIV should be fine, just use the unofficial launcher and point it at that drive

steam do you mean it's actually installed to that drive or that you have a steam library on there

[proven oyster]

Both

[modest moss]

not sure how well that'll work, I'd say give it a try but be prepared to reinstall steam

I bet some other nerd knows more about steam portability though

it might be fine

[proven oyster]

I may do the reinstall, it is a 500 base drive and I don't need much

At most, use it to port just raw files

Which that should just be fine, yeah? Vids n images n files without programs

[modest moss]

it might all be fine, but yeah videos and images np for sure

[glass tangle]

How do i do this in game?

[spring raven]

do what, exactly?

[umbral moss]

the text bubbles for chat

I think that's a feature under chat settings, but I forgot what it's called

[spring raven]

it's a plugin

[potent arrow]

yeah its a plug in

[royal forge]

Thats certainly a look

[sly elk]

i wish it was a built-in feature

maybe people would talk at the crystals more often lol

[proven oyster]

Its still funny to me the sheer scale of upgrade i get

From my current PC, to this new Laptop
The CPU is a 100% performance boost

And the GPU is a 500% Boost ;D

[inland mauve]

[proven oyster]

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3050-Ti-Laptop-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-8-Ryzen-iGPU/m1559532vsm441833
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-12500H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G/m1793224vsm441832

This is legit what i am to what i am going to

and i been playing FFXIV at all low, 30 FPS, 720p

[modest moss]

it's a big upgrade but don't trust userbenchmark in general

[proven oyster]

Not a clue what a proper site to trust would be

[paper tusk]

Since its a Hyundai the real question is how fast can it be stolen

[rose hornet]

I’ll wait until Kias and Hyundais stop catching on fire.

[sly elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PCDYZxnv_U

i'm impressed his black plastic tv has tubes inside

[proven oyster]

I found a source to give me visual feedback on "This games perform like this", and it amuses me how

Smoke? Fire? Any and all Particle dense type of visual effect?
Those forever will be the most painful of assets for any GPU to render

[dreamy chasm]

High quality textures not taking that much render capacity's part of why VRAM's become such a selling point to a lot of people

[paper tusk]

Until the directx change to allow direct access to vram lands it'll be slow to swap assets from system ram

[sly elk]

I think my garage camera is dying

ahh restarting vlc fixed it

[wraith agate]

Nah

it's just an anomaly

you are on observation duty

[paper tusk]

https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1686215574177841152?s=20

Andrew Cote (@Andercot)

National Lab (LBNL) results support LK-99 as a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor.

Simulations published 1 hour ago on arxiv support LK-99 as the holy grail of modern material science and applied physics.
(https://t.co/4t4D2gIeBp)

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Science!

[potent arrow]

I stay skeptical

https://youtu.be/QHPFphlzwdQ?feature=shared

Lmfao I don't know anything about physics physics, but I agree with dave on this pont

[inland mauve]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/controversial-physicist-faces-mounting-accusations-of-scientific-misconduct/

sadly unfortunately probably not a real thing 😔

it could've revolutionized power transfer

[potent arrow]

It's cool

If it's real

All inventions and discovery have a period of disbelief and skeptism, it's how it makes it out that counts

[inland mauve]

the new ear pillows and covers for my headphones arrived

when I compare the new pillows to the old ones it's really obvious how badly worn the old ones are

[potent arrow]

I have a yearly subscription for my headphones lol

I have 3-4 over ears, most i loan out to friends for productiom and gaming
A hand full of iems that I wear daily, needs new foam tips
a pair of TWS

[inland mauve]

wait you can subscribe on headphones?

[potent arrow]

So I have a local shop that sends out replacements once a year

Nah local service

[inland mauve]

oh

[potent arrow]

I hate wearing really worn things

[inland mauve]

I have one pair of Sennheiser HD600 that are several years old now and I just replace parts on it as needed

a year or two ago I had to replace the cable, now the pillows and foam membrane between the speakers and my ears

[potent arrow]

I want to get a custom cable for my hd6xx

[inland mauve]

it's so easy to replace parts on the HD600, is it that easy on all the big Sennheiser headphones?

[potent arrow]

Yep

I have two 800s, although they are lent out pretty often

But they are about the same

like maintenance wise

I actually prefer my hd6xx for daily use

[inland mauve]

what's the difference?

[potent arrow]

It's less open and easier to drive lol

The 800s will not run off my interface rofl

My friend group pooled money to buy the two for all of us to use

It's pretty nice for scoring and proofing, but for gaming it feels the same as my hd6xx

[dull garnet]

I bought some stock hd 650 cabling for my 6xx

The cable massdrop provides is too short

[lost python]

yeah its really short

i got lucky because my stuff is on my desk but its still pretty short

[inland mauve]

I have a DAC on my desk

a Schiit Modi

I have to say, I was recommended Schiit by someone in here, but I was disappointed by the material quality of their products

I ordered a DAC and an amp, the Modi and the Magni

the Magni eliminated the stereo channels from the DAC and blew itself up within a week or two

and on the Modi, the audio channels are switched, L is output by R and vice versa, I had to swap around the two plugs on my conversion cable to compensate for that

at least the audio it outputs is of very high quality I suppose

but not worth the trouble and additional costs of shipping it here to the NL

I will not be buying Schiit again

[dull garnet]

No complaints with my topping dx3 pro

Powers my 6xx plenty and acts as a dac for my integrated speaker amp

[inland mauve]

hmm can't find that one new anymore, but I can find it used

[dull garnet]

the new one is called the dx3 pro+

[inland mauve]

that's the one I can only find used

[potent arrow]

The one I'm currently using is the Atom by jdlabs

[lost python]

man, i bought a laptop stand for my desk and it broke right away
its one of those with an arm and the screws for the clamp, that clamp onto the pipe, just shredded the threading while screwing them in and now it doesnt hold
i didnt even use any force

fucking cheap ass metal

[rose hornet]

Pure consumer grade chinesium

[lost python]

weird considering i use a monitor arm from the same company and its build really well

[potent arrow]

My friend command strip a lenovo dock to the wall in his cubicle

It still holds the laptop to this day

[zenith scroll]

So, I'm building my first gaming PC, does anyone have monitor recommendations?

Preferably $200 or below?

[lost python]

@real edge you got some extra budget monitors?

[real edge]

https://www.amazon.com/KOORUI-Compatible-Frameless-DisplayPort-Adjustable/dp/B0BQ1WCQT2/ref=sr_1_3?crid=278HLQL01BJT2&keywords=KOORUI&qid=1690915194&sprefix=koorui%2Caps%2C217&sr=8-3

here

[real edge]

but

if you want to go a step further

go with the gigabyte M27Q

its 300$

[sly elk]

Sadly you're not the first person I've heard such an experience from 😦

[dull garnet]

the clue is in the name

[sly elk]

lol

[wraith agate]

Yeah it's rather... Schiit

[sly elk]

word

to be fair, thjat's probably a PhD role with specific knowledge

like they probably want someone who worked on chatgpt or whatever lol

[deep sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKw97HzVypM

this japanese guy has turned into a milwaukee fanboy

[graceful pine]

yeah they obviously want a expert veteran

[sly elk]

in terms of maximizing income I definitely picked the wrong software specialization lol 😄

i don't think it was the worst choice, just not necessarily the most lucrative

[sly elk]

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/green-bubbles-come-on-now-if-you-are-in-the-us.2397425/

https://tenor.com/view/anya-loid-spy-x-family-anime-look-gif-25652096

[wild trout]

hey i could use some help, my B550M DS3H motherboard comes with https://i.imgur.com/WnvJ9f7.png those M2 connectors, but i'm a bit confused on the 4.0/3.0 x4 x2 thing. What should I look out for?

[sharp star]

the 4.0 slot on a B550 board is physically closest to the CPU and uses that for its lanes, while the one away from it uses the motherboard chipset instead

[wild trout]

ah okay

i assume the 3.0 and 4.0 is kind of similar to like, DDR3 DDR4 as in which it could support?

[sharp star]

nah

[paper tusk]

Basically you want to use the one near cpu (between the graphics card slot) for boot drive (highest priority) and others for storage

[sharp star]

they're compatible with each other but you won't reach the marketed speeds if you put a 4.0 drive into a 3.0 slot

[paper tusk]

The 4.0/3.0 part refers to the generation of ssd it supports (current one). The x4 is the speed of that generation

[wild trout]

ah okay

my OS is on a SSD and otherwise using HDD's, so i've been considering now getting a 1 or 2 TB NVME for games

[sharp star]

You should be fine with a 3.0 NVMe for most games

Unless it's something like Ratchet and Clank and you want seamless portal transitions

[wild trout]

yeah i played that one on a HDD

it was interesting

[paper tusk]

Scamazon has a sale on wd blue 2tb m2 ssd for 85 moneys

Something like that would probably be good enough ™

[sharp star]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Plus-PCIe-NAND-6600MB/dp/B098WKQRDL this one is good too

[paper tusk]

Teamgroup mp34 is slightly cheaper and has dram cache (*hopefully)

The p5+ is good too

[wild trout]

thank you for the recommendation

[sand bobcat]

Any cheap 1440p monitor recommendations?

[real edge]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27q

300$

at most

cheap and good 1440p display

[wraith agate]

I have absolutely no idea where to ask this but

how in the motherload does a weapon have custom animation?

in FFXIV I mean

to be specific, I'm trying to mod the blazefire saber onto a chakram because well my goals are beyond anyone's understanding, but somehow I can't get the damn thing to fold

[paper tusk]

Have to inject the animation unless you're versed in maya

[dull garnet]

illegal

[wraith agate]

god that sounds difficult

also Maya costs money, no?

[modest moss]

yeah

a lot

[wraith agate]

okay plan

establish a carrier in animation

10 years at a studio should be enough

use studio's code to get free Maya

make a dumb animation

profit

[modest moss]

or just get good at blender

[wraith agate]

I don't think blender uses the same things

or at least the animation isn't baked into the weapon

[dull garnet]

step 1: steal maya

[wraith agate]

Okay I stole a girl called Maya

what's next

[dull garnet]

you should have bought a few to resell!

[late basalt]

@cerulean talon well, apparently all that work i did on converting the psu may be entirely pointless

got a new laser head a few days ago, and other than a questionable jury-rigging of the cable to the laser itself, the existing brick powers it just fine (so far?)

[neon shell]

What's the difference between the diffrent PCIe versions? I have a RTX 2060 and I'm not sure if it would be compatible with PCIe 5.0

[late basalt]

should be

or rather, pcie 5 should be

[neon shell]

I can send you a picture of the motherboard

if you wish

[neon shell]

What do the different versions represent though? Feeling a bit overwhelmed atm ngl

[late basalt]

pcie X just denotes bandwidth

aka how fast

[neon shell]

I see

So it really shouldn't be that big of a deal I guess?

Ok I figured it out

thanks

[burnt swallow]

Is anyone in here knowledgeable on Windows 11

[modest moss]

just fire out your question and see

[burnt swallow]

My friend got a new laptop in with Windows 11 on it and he gets a 'defaultuser0' login at the login screen even after factory resetting the laptop and he can't log in

[modest moss]

I would seek support from the retailer/manufacturer

if it's a new laptop and it doesn't work, return that sucker

[paper tusk]

Sounds like the factory image was fucked

At logon screen press shift+f10

type "net user [username] *", where [username] is the name of your user account. Will get instructions from there

[hushed ermine]

guys

i havent turn off my pc for a month is this ok

[muted spoke]

nah. get your windows updates and reboot

[hushed ermine]

oh i did that already

i usually restart for that purpose

[muted spoke]

if it's on but you're not using it all you're doing is wasting electricity and generating heat for no reason

[hushed ermine]

i do a little bit of crypto mining on the side

jk i dont do jack shit its just always on cuz im lazy

[muted spoke]

so yeah, get in the habit of turning it off when you're done for the night. your electric bill will thank you

[hushed ermine]

i can pay for the bills but does it affect my pc in any way

[muted spoke]

as long as it's not overheating (when's the last time you cleaned out all the dust?) it's probably fine

[hushed ermine]

how do i check if its overheating

last time i air dusted was a year ago

[modest moss]

you use something like hwinfo64

[lime wasp]

I've done it

The conversion to ITX is complete

[hushed ermine]

idk what im seeing

but looks cool

[modest moss]

do sensors only

[modest moss]

is that idle or under load?

also scroll down and look for your gpu

[hushed ermine]

im on ff rn

[modest moss]

that's nbd then

[hushed ermine]

what is nbd

[modest moss]

yeah same on gpu, it's not overheating

no big deal

[hushed ermine]

oh ok

[modest moss]

you should dust it when you can be bothered, but it's not urgent

[hushed ermine]

i just realized few days ago

one of the fan isnt fanning

in the front

[modest moss]

replace it when you can, but based on those temps when gaming it's not going to blow up or anything

[hushed ermine]

thats good thank u good sir

[celest violet]

Kinda want to go itx so I can fit the tower back on top of the desk and not on a stand, but I got a lot of bulky shit in my build

Looks clean tho fr

[lime wasp]

Thanks

The 2000D can fit some CHONKY cards, but you do need ITX boards

Like you could fit the Founders 4090 or the PNY 4090 in there

Can fit almost any of the 7900 XTXs except Red Devil or the super-high end Sapphire one

You can even fit a 360mm AIO in it

[celest violet]

Might work for me, I've got a 3080 seahawk that's got a rad, and a thick air cooler tho

The air cooler kinda what I'm worried about?

And extra pcie space for my elgato

[sly elk]

you can always just let your computer go to sleep when you're not using it

[potent arrow]

Here is overheating

😎

Fans on GPU is A CRUTCH

[sharp star]

I never go above 70 lmao

there's two 140s blasting my GPU from the bottom

[potent arrow]

I dont have fans on my gpu

[celest violet]

What gpu are you running 😭

[potent arrow]

3060ti

[celest violet]

oh no what happened to his fans

[neon shell]

https://youtu.be/v7MYOpFONCU in case someone needs it

Perhaps should be pinned actually

[sly elk]

ya know one thing I never quite got with, was attaching the heatsink to the motherboard before putting it in the case lol

especially with AIO watercoolers, it's just clunky to do that

this is good though

[sharp star]

Yeah I never do that with an AIO unless transplanting it from one case to another

[sly elk]

ehehe

yea there are times where I've moved the radiator while the block is attached to the board and I'm afraid something will come loose and slam into the motherboard

tbh I think the most annoying thing about new builds is getting the ram into the ram slots lol

people always talk about how weird locking in an LGA processor is, but I find ddr4/ddr5 to be really weird and annoying too

it's not obvious which way is up because the stupid cutout is almost in the middle

heheh "this side probably won't come back on modern motherboards"
... no that's just an asus thing. Asus uses ram slots that only have a latch on the top

https://tenor.com/view/middle-finger-anime-just-hate-that-gif-5717720

[sharp star]

Locking an LGA CPU isn’t weird but locking DRAM into a slot is

especially on Asus

remember, “for those who dare”

[odd sand]

I mean, isn't that the exact reason for the notch is it either lines up or it doesn't? The trickier part is just making sure you firmly jam down both sides of the stick to make sure it has a solid connection.

Most awkward though was the pre-DDR stuff that needed to be pushed in at an angle and turned vertically.

[sly elk]

LOL edo dram

sdram had 2 notches, as I recall

so it was super obvious

but ddr it's kinda in the middle so you end up with that usb superposition thing 😄

-puts ram into slot- -tries pushing in- -it rocks to one side-

-flips it over- -it still rocks to one side-

-flips it back- -it clicks into place-

-disbelief ensues- -wiggle stick a little to make sure it's secure- -it is-

oh what the hell lmao

[odd sand]

I have never had this issue, I think you have a pebkac error going on Just gently place the stick down and see if the notch lines up, otherwise flip it around, then push down...

[sly elk]

it is definitely pebcak

[odd sand]

DDR3 was the easiest I guess

Interesting thing is how DDR4 has that thicker area of pins

Oh if you were talking DDR5 then yeah I see what you mean, that is like a fscking troll move https://www.anigma.com/cdn/shop/articles/655fabaa0ab8749a0efd1a0ef3a208bf_770x.progressive.jpg?v=1668774951

At which point I assume they are faced "front" in the blisterpack, which means they should have that facing away from the CPU

[sly elk]

yea it was already kinda close in ddr4 though

I know it looks way obvious but in reality haha

idk

also I'm used to installing ram after sticking the motherboard in 😛

[odd sand]

I really don't understand these standards groups anymore.

[sly elk]

i think at this point it's just dell decides lol

[odd sand]

Their entire purpose is to make a standard that is simple and easy to use, and USB and HDMI have both messed that up, USB far worse. And now they could have put the notch anywhere and they decide 1mm off center is a great idea??

[sharp star]

lmao Dell

Also USB is a weird-ass standard

can’t get their naming conventions straightened out

[odd sand]

Absolutely shameful, they should all be fired even though they're not paid.

It feels almost malicious

[deep sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/15gms9l/anyone_remember_the_thermaltake_level_10_designed/

haha I remember this

@tribal crater buy this 4090

ha, thats sick

[dull garnet]

if i wasn't poor...

[deep sapphire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/15grqnd/good_bye_hd6950_welcome_gtx_960/

this subreddit is full of idiots

[sly elk]

that looks pretty

too bad it's asus

that means it'll cost 2x msrp and will never be available to mere mortals like us unless we happen to go to microcenter when they get a delivery

[deep sapphire]

nothing wrong with ASUS

[sly elk]

also that board doesn't look like a strix it looks like a maximus code or someshit

but yea nothing wrong with the thing being made by asus

[deep sapphire]

AMD fanboys just jumped on some bandwagon hating ASUS when like 4 other board makers had the same problem

though I admit how ASUS handled it was shitty

[sly elk]

I'm just sore about how they did the gundam stuff lol

and the 'white oc edition' 30 series

that was bullshit

[deep sapphire]

elaborate, I dont think I heard about that

[sly elk]

when everyone and their bro wanted a white 30 series

asus made the white 30 series cards limited edition

[deep sapphire]

oh they still do that sorta, its like 200 bucks extra lol

[sly elk]

yeaaa

I hate that

the funny thing is their motherboards are the opposite wait no that's msi lol

the silver carbon is cheaper lol

[deep sapphire]

I figure it probably wouldnt be that hard to rattle can it though the heatsink might be interesting

[sly elk]

gigabyte did the same with the 30 series (vision was cheaper than aorus)

you can't really rattle can the fans

[dull garnet]

I'm only buying founder edition cards going forward

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/decision-mitchcutty-kevinmcgarry-heartland-gif-21951971

[dull garnet]

Unless they start being bad again

[sly elk]

a plus side of the FE cards is they are the easiest to buy water blocks for

the downside is the warranty isn't the best lol

[sharp star]

I don’t think Asus’s problems are strictly related to AMD

It’s definitely there with the ROG Ally, while, yes, it has an AMD chip, it somehow manages to melt microSD cards with its… excellent placement

[sly elk]

yea my experience with asus products (and not just my last build's motherboard) is that they are lots of flash and sloppy substance

.... to be fair that's kinda par for the course with DIY PC parts

[sharp star]

yeah

Gigabyte and their exploding PSUs even

[sly elk]

at the end of the day this shit's not all that much better than whatever bullshit dell sells in their computers

they just add shiny plastic/metal decoration on it to get people excited about paying for it

in some cases I wouldn't be shocked if a dell white box GPU was actually better made and had more carefully written firmware

because they have to actually support warranties lmao

[sharp star]

I’ve seen some Dell OEM GPUs

they were surprisingly well-made

[sly elk]

random taiwanese gaming PC company X can just send you into an RMA loop and then decide you damaged your part and reject the warranty claim

[sharp star]

I’m sitting here going “why can’t we have that shit a la carte”

and then I remembered that we can’t have nice things

[sly elk]

i'm not sure they really make all that much off selling the raw machines themselves

i think it's mostly made off selling warranties, maintenance plans, the add-on software, financing, etc

having owned a few, and taken apart a few more, and watched steve bitch about dell's way of making the alienware cases lol

i wonder how much that stupid case costs to make

[sharp star]

I would be happy to buy a Dell 4090 at MSRP because that shit will fit in a lot of systems, including some, if not most SFF

[sly elk]

they probably do sell the part

i would think that a FE is cheaper though

also, ultimately, I like the flashy metal/plastic shrouds hahaha

like that red eva asus one is neat

[tribal crater]

thats hot

[tribal crater]

wtf they are living in 2013

[deep sapphire]

I dunno if shitpost but seems like shitpost

the GTX 690 was a cool card when it first came out though

that was the first time nvidia used that aluminum stock cooler design

the 680 was generic

[tribal crater]

[sly elk]

lol I only last week retired the gtx660 my bro was using

[dull garnet]

670 was a decent card

[minor hollow]

I pulled out from a garage bin like five months ago, a sealed 470 gpu

No not a rx470

A gtx 470

I have no idea what I ever planned for it

[potent arrow]

The oldest nvdia card I own is probably the riva tnt2

Otherwise the voodoo banshee iirc

[cerulean talon]

I love a good ole PCI-E shitty GPU that doesn't need power for debugging.

Makes it way easier to debug, well, everything

[dull garnet]

470 needs external power

[proven oyster]

My Acer nitro 5 has arrived
And I gotta wait a full work shift before I touch it.
Orz

But for now, what things to do with it?
I know remove bloatware like Norton, Windows update and driver updates. Anything else?

[sly elk]

re-enable windows defender lol

[proven oyster]

Well
True fair

[celest violet]

Why does intel turbo boost turn back on despite bios having it disabled

Is there a in windows function?

This on top of msi having the worst bios known to man

[lost python]

lol you should see the asus bios if you think msi is bad

[celest violet]

I prefer asus lmao

Msi is setup in a manner its impossible to find anything normally

And I found msi center was the issue with the clock speed

[dull garnet]

i wouldn't remove your drivers!

[celest violet]

Nah it's msi center has an extreme game mode that was turned on forcing the cpu to 5.8ish and it was hot af

So I'm just turning that mode off

I also think msi center is just shitty bloat more than it's an actual driver

[lost python]

jup

the only thing its good for is handling case fans that dont have PWM

[celest violet]

There are some better less intensive programs for that as well. Most board manufacturer programs are mid af tbh

especially gigabyte

[dull garnet]

I never install that crap

[celest violet]

It was already put on the pc by the other guy working on the build so I had to salvage what he did

[sly elk]

speaking strictly of software here: Asus' packaged software with my Z390 Maximus XI Hero... is why I swore I'd never buy another Asus board.

You should be able to adjust fan curves from within the OS but their fan curve editor was garbage and bullshit

and after a windows reinstall a couple years later I could never get fan control working from within windows again

[celest violet]

I mean the downloadable software on all is shit, but bios wise asus is so much easier to navigate I meant

[sly elk]

to be fair, I never tried to do it with the msi board

I never even installed the software lmao

I bought a commander pro and never looked back

yep i'd rather use icue

[celest violet]

I think msi bios layout is a headache

[sly elk]

at least icue was written by someone that speaks english natively

I think...

[celest violet]

Maybe only matched by like hp and dell

[sly elk]

and they don't use stupid brand names and acronyms for everything

FanXPERT 4

ffs damnit asus

[celest violet]

Just use fan control

[sly elk]

AI OC CONTROL

[celest violet]

Works across all fan brands and is better than most

[sly elk]

the biggest joy i get out of not using an asus board in my current machine

is not seeing the ROG eye every time I boot it

[celest violet]

Fair lmao

I just can't stand msi in almost all areas

Their build quality feels worse, ugly aesthetic, bad bios

[sly elk]

side by side

i think the carbon board I have was built better than the maximus hero I had

no way in hell I'd pay $600 for that

if I were to spend that much on a board i'd want one of those last evga boards lol

asus is out of their fucking minds

[celest violet]

Maybe just that I work with them at work so I'm more used to seeing the cheap versions of everyboard

But the msi's do not feel as nice as some of the rogs

[sly elk]

to be fair I've never used an asus prime board

if you're comparing prime to whatever msi sells on the cheap side lol

[celest violet]

We sell rog and tuf

And then just a lot of msi

[celest violet]

I owned a prime x470-pro and it was probably the best board I ever used

[sly elk]

i'm glad to hear they worked fine for ya

to be fair mine's also worked fine lol

it does like to give a lot of voltage to the cpu though lol

i was tempted to go with a prime because of the combo deals microcenter has

but i went with an msi carbon instead because I wanted a 7 segment post debug screen 😄

[dull garnet]

still rocking my b450 tomahawk with a 5800x3d and a 4070

only reason i'd consider an upgrade it for more nvme storage potential

[celest violet]

There was one customer who brought in like a super expensive rog board that has like 3ish m.2 slots and then a pcie card for even more

And he had like 5 2tb m.2s

Crazy shit

My biggest issue with mobo manufacturers is that the white mobos are never good for what I'm doing 😭

[sly elk]

ya my board has 4 m.2 slots and I want to fill them all

[modern iris]

1 = !hank
2 != !hank

!random 1 2

[opal panther]

Information

Your Random Number Between 1 and 2, Kupo!

1

[modern iris]

!hank

[opal panther]

いかっち | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90764433

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/8377268

[deep sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-wow-oh-my-god-gif-13298370

[celest violet]

Anyone have a solution for double clicking on a mouse? I cleaned it up when I was vinyl wrapping it but still has issues

[sly elk]

!hank

[opal panther]

SAHARA | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92761598

Sourced via nekos.best || Artist Page: https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/2637028

[sly elk]

lmao

[modest moss]

blow into it

https://www.reddit.com/r/MouseReview/comments/6tjgs7/help_need_help_logitech_g102g203_double_clicking/

[deep sapphire]

its probably shot then, you can try cleaning out the micro switch if it has one (most do)

[celest violet]

yeah I used an ipa wipe on the switch after taking the shell off

it probably is shot I just dont want to spend money

Ig I could go back to my logitech g600 if the issue becomes too much

[potent arrow]

I soldered new switches onto all of my Logitech nice

I hate the onrons because they all double click eventually

[proven oyster]

I am now going through the update mess

any like

"Keep an eye out on this" notes for my set up of this Laptop? (acer NItro 5)

[golden stream]

Innit only omron CN made? Iirc omron JP made ain't double click....much

Had a convo w a JP the other day about switches

[sly walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-delete-this-gunpoint-surprise-gif-12114609

[odd sand]

何故日本語にしましたか？

[sly elk]

you got your hands on an eva card? sweet.

[rose hornet]

Old mouse?

Nvm

[minor hollow]

he about to put hands on that card

leave asuka alone!

leave her alone!

[dull garnet]

Nooo

I just thought it was funny as an EoE reference

[deep sapphire]

haha

[wraith agate]

hey @modest moss people want my head