You can delete and if you have problems and contact Dell support which I have and one of their app causes very bad screen crashes
#technology-discussion
prime current
wide hill
remember when one company got compromised and someone uploaded malware trough windows updates
dull garnet
bruh
i have rzr synapse installed and only just found out that my mouse had a firmware update in jan that fixed an issue i had with it
it doesn't offer a firmware update via the app 😭
wide hill
soon you need drivers to be able to use your cpu fan
dull garnet
i'm sure for some aio you do
wide hill
oh yeah the ones with digital screens and such
dull garnet
definitely for those
deep sapphire
Just use the auto hdr feature works fine for me
prime current
? Folks and I have a Xbox 360 and to save my games on it and will it work when I decide to get an Xbox X series???
dull garnet
what are you asking
games need to be "bc" on series x to work, not all are compatible
prime current
Say for example ff14 on the Xbox external from my 360 and will I be able to copy on a X Series?
Yeah I know just trying to have an example
I know ps5 no problem and I’m guessing same for Xbox
Cause I’m looking at another 5t external hard drive
One for each, the Xbox and ps
dull garnet
I'm not sure between 360 and series tbh
sly elk
OH NOOOO
my work laptop died
RIP
😮 wait after 2 kps it started back up
maybe it's not as dead as I thought
dull garnet
torpid kayak
https://i.imgur.com/SJf4zaj.png random, but it looks like a flipped table lol 😄
sly elk
The caption is atrocious
modern iris
not even almost
sly elk
they should do it
then when "X" cries bloody murder the court should just be like "not our damn problem" lol
yo newegg has a 750w rm750 for $89 after reb.. aw hell those damn rebates
eh it's a corsair rebate
should be ok
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rm-series-rm750-750w/p/N82E16817139277 if anyone wants it
sly elk
https://appleinsider.com/articles/23/02/14/apple-issues-firmware-update-for-magsafe-3-charging-cable
sharp star
idk if MagSafe 3 cables have been melting
I remember MagSafe 1 and 2 cables were very prone to melting
royal forge
idk if MagSafe 3 cables have been melting
ITS BECAUSE THE MATERIAL HAS NOT REACHED THE HIGH LEVEL OF INNOVATION NEEDED FOR APPLE DEVICES
sharp star
https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1684145324976218112 lol, lmao even
Twitter
wide hill
why does samsung ads for "join the flip side" sound like they are begging people to buy their phones, and them making an ad where "everyone is using it, join us"
you gotta pay me if i am going to use a flip phone like that
sharp star
void dove
you know you've not bought a piece of shit PCIE expansion card on ebay, when it DOESNT come with an obviously malware ridden "driver disk"
paper tusk
why does samsung ads for "join the flip side" sound like they are begging people...
The only flip is the coin flip if the fucking screen breaks in a year and samsung does their best to deny warranty work
dull garnet
I'm sure companies intentionally "leak" data
wide hill
https://youtube.com/shorts/tuKZU01k3J4?feature=share
i want to see the linux wine version of this
absolute horror
dreamy chasm
ok, i think i gotta get the keychron wrist rest
I haven't had issues
But maybe I just have large hands
royal forge
my wrists are bent a bit funny thanks to it
i feel more comfortable when I place my phone under my wrists to type
potent arrow
dont get a keychron one
just get a wooting silicone one aoi
I get it for most people
Im just boogie and wanted full marble
hard drift
https://www.techspot.com/news/99534-new-zenbleed-vulnerability-puts-amd-ryzen-cpu-users.html RIP amd
dull garnet
is that why msi put out a bios update on may 18th for my motherboard
hard drift
No, it’s not out yet except for datacenters
October-december is the estimated timeframe for consumer stuff
modest moss
god I hate cookies
and I have nothing to do with the EU now
we're just a lonely little island
lost python
how did that happen?
earnest sedge
I have no idea
I was drawing and then suddenly the corners of the tablets screen started flickering.
And after a while it went to this
Weird tho cause it worked perfectly fine yesterday
wraith agate
what were you drawing?
deep sapphire
what were you drawing?
Did you buy ratchet and clank yet
wraith agate
no? why would I?
deep sapphire
Seems like a great benchmark for the 4090 I’m excited to play it after work
deep sapphire
Is AMD even trying anymore lmao
Intel’s solution works better on all cards than FSR
modest moss
deep sapphire
<@54695380410966016>
Accurate
wise jay
ya but that emulated Asura's Wrath is hot
wraith agate
so someone is trying to tell me my hardware is faulty because FFXIV keeps crashing every now and then
I personally think the fault here lies with windows 11
considering no other games crashed so far
modest moss
Have you run a repair
grim rock
hardware is rarely the issue for a game crash, because if it was, your system would lag, freeze, displays would disconnect momentarily, or a combination of the above
hardware issues typically cause a system failure/crash
wraith agate
Have you run a repair
yes
modest moss
It's probably just a skill issue then
modest moss
Check event viewer next time
wraith agate
Source: Application Error
Date: 7/26/2023 10:47:41 PM
Event ID: 1000
Task Category: Application Crashing Events
Level: Error
Keywords:
User: DESKTOP-U8743GE\Piper
Computer: DESKTOP-U8743GE
Description:
Faulting application name: ffxiv_dx11.exe, version: 1.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x64a5b32d
Faulting module name: nvwgf2umx.dll, version: 31.0.15.3640, time stamp: 0x6496040f
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000003a2133
Faulting process id: 0x0x5530
Faulting application start time: 0x0x1D9BFE86E870553
Faulting application path: E:\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game\ffxiv_dx11.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_5b6e4554b945d508\nvwgf2umx.dll
Report Id: bf5c3016-1645-489c-be3b-ae13d051c5d3
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Application Error" Guid="{a0e9b465-b939-57d7-b27d-95d8e925ff57}" />
<EventID>1000</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>100</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2023-07-26T20:47:41.9029064Z" />
<EventRecordID>2199</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="8108" ThreadID="7716" />
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>DESKTOP-U8743GE</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-21-328623381-1930681458-2753005634-1001" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="AppName">ffxiv_dx11.exe</Data>
<Data Name="AppVersion">1.0.0.0</Data>
<Data Name="AppTimeStamp">64a5b32d</Data>
<Data Name="ModuleName">nvwgf2umx.dll</Data>
<Data Name="ModuleVersion">31.0.15.3640</Data>
<Data Name="ModuleTimeStamp">6496040f</Data>
<Data Name="ExceptionCode">c0000005</Data>
<Data Name="FaultingOffset">00000000003a2133</Data>
<Data Name="ProcessId">0x5530</Data>
<Data Name="ProcessCreationTime">0x1d9bfe86e870553</Data>
<Data Name="AppPath">E:\SquareEnix\FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game\ffxiv_dx11.exe</Data>
<Data Name="ModulePath">C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_5b6e4554b945d508\nvwgf2umx.dll</Data>
<Data Name="IntegratorReportId">bf5c3016-1645-489c-be3b-ae13d051c5d3</Data>
<Data Name="PackageFullName">
</Data>
<Data Name="PackageRelativeAppId">
</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>```it seems one of those Dlls is wrong?
inland mauve
isn't there a repair function in the launcher?
otherwise you could try reinstalling entirely
wraith agate
I already repaired
grim rock
Faulting application name: ffxiv_dx11.exe
grim rock
Try an older driver or ddu them
this but also do a clean install of drivers
opal pantherBOT
dull garnet
Nvidia bros...
inland mauve
yes? 
wraith agate
Try an older driver or ddu them
I'm gonna update my current drivers, that too could be an issue
modest moss
My Nvidia is great thx
wraith agate
but by all means, it isn't a hardware issue
stg some people are immediately jumping on the worst case scenario
modest moss
It probably isn't but could be
wraith agate
not you too, Shue
I know it could be
but the chances of it being is almost 0
people try to convince me games with far more demand than FFXIV doesn't even crash but somehow FFXIV crashing is indicative of hardware failure and not somehow either windows 11, nvidia's drivers or FFXIV itself being programmed like a shit spaghetti
inland mauve
it can be a conflict between FFXIV and the hardware
inland mauve
Elden Ring used to crash more often for me the more USB devices I had connected
peripheral devices especially can cause really weird issues
wraith agate
I have only a mic, a keyboard, mouse and an xbox wireless controller stick connected
nothing
else
it may be my bias of spending $4500 on this shit
but I really don't want hardware issues to be the root of this
late basalt
ironically if it's a hardware issue it could be as simple as the game and OS throwing shitfits about which particular usb slot things are being plugged into
modest moss
Just rule things out in the order of most likely issue
wraith agate
well I turned on compatibility mode for now
see if that solves it
the thing is, this crashing happens randomly
plus not even mention
I lost my amazon account so I can't refund if my components are faulty
which means I'd be fucked royally
so all in all, it is not hardware issue, I cannot afford hardware issue
denial as it is, I genuinely don't believe that's the case, purely because hardware issues are worst case scenario that happens really rarely nowadays
modest moss
how do you lose an amazon account
late basalt
denial as it is, I genuinely don't believe that's the case, purely because hardw...
actually they've been in the news pretty often this year
wraith agate
how do you lose an amazon account
old phone number
and couldn't contact amazon
besides even if I could, my account is on my chosen name instead of my deadname
so practically gone
late basalt
um.. couldnt you just email them?
wraith agate
I didn't see an email
it kept showing me the phone number
anyway, all in all, I really don't wanna deal with this
I feel overwhelmed and exhausted rn
last thing I need is to stress about this
when in reality it's probably just nvidia being trash on software
wraith agate
nothing here about phone number
late basalt
besides, if you can basically give them the address, order contents, shit like that, i dont see why they wont bumb off the old phone number
wraith agate
anyway again, it's probably not hardware issue considering I stress tested this machine when I finished building it
late basalt
if its anxiety over talking to someone over the phone, not much to be done about it unless you feel up to it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
and fwiw, you're on win11
wraith agate
it's not anxiety
I.. have a rather male sounding voice while my chosen name is feminine
late basalt
i wouldnt doubt win11 still has a massive basket of issues to be worked out
wraith agate
well not surprising, considering I'm a transfem
I just... don't wanna be denied assistance because I don't sound like the gender I claim to be
late basalt
shouldnt be that much of an issue tbh
wraith agate
probably
anyway I did what I think might help the best rn, run FFXIV with a compatibility mode
I'm gonna let it cook for a day without logging off
late basalt
try rolling back the gpu drivers back a few iterations
late basalt
sometimes the latest driver release isnt the greatest
wraith agate
jfc
let me see if my attempted fix, fixed it first or not
then we can try other solutions
late basalt
compat mode's usually just a bandaid imo
wraith agate
as long as it works
for now, please end of topic, don't ping me about this for at least a day
inland mauve
45 fps on a 4090?
inland mauve
is it that unoptimized?
wise jay
Thats some Ark Survival levels of unoptimized
thorny imp
What is a good Playstation layout styled wired game controller suited for FFXIV for PC?
I saw a lot of 3rd party controllers
but the reviews are iffy
modest moss
what game?
dreamy chasm
but I really don't want hardware issues to be the root of this
XIV is kown to be pretty finnicky
deep sapphire
what game?
ratchet and clank
deep sapphire
I only had the PS2 ones
but I absolutely loved the first one
I rarely used my PS2 but I sure did for ratchet
odd sand
What is a good Playstation layout styled wired game controller suited for FFXIV ...
8bitdo has the Pro2 in wired and wireless. Might as well just buy the wireless and use it via USB-C instead of limiting yourself. That one looks like a cross between a SNES controller and the handles on a PS controller. They have the one called the Ultimate controller that looks like an Xbox one, but both of those can be set to DirectInput (PS style) or Xinput (Xbox) depending on the buttons you press turning them on.
GuliKit also has the KingKong2 with hall effect analogs, but I dunno if you can do PS mapping with that one.
dreamy chasm
it's an xbox layout controller
wraith agate
Why is spanner just the machines from Nier automata
paper tusk
it's also forgetting the products of satan: torx plus, tamper resistant torx plus (5 lobe), ribe, and mortorq
sharp star
Nintendo do be fond of Y-type screws
I remember when I stripped a Y screw of an old Switch and I had to Dremel it just to get it off
Thankfully none of the other components were damaged
paper tusk
I can beleive it. had to get a dedicated screwdriver for opening switch/joycons because none of the ones in bit sets actually fits without camming out
at least when they used it in ds's it wasn't torqed down to "break the plastic"
golden stream
What is a good Playstation layout styled wired game controller suited for FFXIV ...
8bitdo stuff in general
Sauce: I have an 8bitdo SNES one, love it so far
Also with le steam deck
sharp star
inland mauve
lul
potent arrow
Torx just fucking sucks
Torx doesn't suck, it's one of the better fastener
Really prevents slips and rounding
Also spanner is just two dots because it's a security screw
wraith agate
It's kinda sad I'm the only technologically adept person at home
my mom broke her old phone's screen and sent a screenshot to my sister showing it's broken to which my sister replied she sees nothing
I feel bad for laughing
odd sand
Also spanner is just two dots because it's a security screw
I feel like unless it's designed to not back out, the type of bit design is basically security by obscurity. Unless the idea is you never remove the screws, which then the 2 dots probably provide too little torque to back them out I guess.
potent arrow
I feel like unless it's designed to not back out, the type of bit design is basi...
It's designed so that the average idiot can't just open it, I find them in like panels in public spaces
The hole isn't deep enough usually so that you can put two small items in and turn it
deep sapphire
Torx doesn't suck, it's one of the better fastener
When they aren’t rotted out yeah
When they are they suck just as much as the rest of them
potent arrow
Yep
rose hornet
When they are they suck just as much as the rest of them
Just hammer in the bit and give it the ol’ electric ratchet.
deep sapphire
rose hornet
I forgot I had security lugnuts on my wheels today and made the mistake of slipping on a 17mm socket
Which got stuck on and I had to wiggle the thing until it slipped off
More like beat on it than wiggle
But hey, I did find my wheel size
umbral moss
torx screws are great
nothing is worse than fucking philips screws in any application where you can put more than a baby's grasp worth of torque on it
oh wow, a stiff breeze added an extra 2% torque to your driver? instant cam out
enjoy your broken shit dumbass
hex and philips screws are the devil's invention
deep sapphire
Phillips screws have their place but small ones I agree are pretty annoying
umbral moss
when you go to large thread diameters you don't normally use philips anyway 
modest moss
fuck screws, just use nails everywhere
umbral moss
rivets 😌
modest moss
my wife tries to fix everything with a glue gun
minor hollow
Flush rivets!
odd sand
Went to do a google search and the top link ends up being this... odd. It looks like publicly disclosed info from a long time ago, but at the same time it feels like its not meant to be accessible heh https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/320321/000095013403005398/0000950134-03-005398.txt
sly elk
i'm not clicking it
sly elk
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-rtx-4090-ti-is-reportedly-no-longer-planned-n...
kinda doesn't surprise me. It made more sense to squeeze the 30 series because they could charge more $$ ,That's no longer the case
I mean there's the whole crypto money -> AI money thing, but I don't think AI is buying as many video cards as crypto was
umbral moss
I mean there's the whole crypto money -> AI money thing, but I don't think AI is...
you don't need a ton of processing power like crypto, so nvidia bet big and lost
the limiting factor in ML is getting data to feed the stupid thing, and then storing your training copies somewhere
my girlfriend has a coworker who was doing ML nearest-neighbor analysis on neurons in a mouse brain, the total training data set was something stupid like 1TB of images
hard drift
4090 chads we keep winning
and the rumor of the next gen having a 512 bit bus seems really good 
nova locust
This means I have reached 1000 nits on the monitor and max hdr? just making sure im new to oled monitors
sly elk
today in MS word ranting
I saved a document I was working on into sharepoint. It lost the heading numbering I had in my template. Attempts to get it back have been.. .weird
imagine your H1 is 1, your H2 is 1.4, and then your H3 is showing things like 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 instead of 1.4.1 and 1.4..2
odd sand
10bit color depth huh? Nice. Well I guess it would have to be for HDR.
That means it's in HDR colorspace mode and can go up to 1000 nits depending on your brightness settings in the config and localized dimming or w/e for blacks
nova locust
Gotcha
I was curious because this monitor seems to only hit 1000 nits with an nvidia graphics card
deep sapphire
This means I have reached 1000 nits on the monitor and max hdr? just making sure...
that is peak brightness
but sustained will be more around 2-400
one thing I have noticed about OLEDs is they kinda struggle with large bright images for extended periods of time unless they have good cooling
sly elk
honestly running a monitor at 1000nits constant sounds like a good way to get a migraine
especially all you people who like to use the computer in a dark room lmao
I don't get it
"EW RGB THAT SHIT HURTS MY EYES!"
-buys a 1000 nit monitor and tries to run it at full blast-
no this comparison isn't right
it's comparing the light output of a projector vs a tv screen
and a 60w light bulb produces around 840 lumens
idk if I'd consider a 300 nit screen equivalent to staring at a 60w light bulb head-on
nova locust
honestly running a monitor at 1000nits constant sounds like a good way to get a ...
you are completly right
sly elk
i always thought the point of HDR was like, to recreate a scene where you're sitting under a blanket of trees but there's a gap in the tree branches and this searing bright sunlight reaches in and gives you a migraine lol
and again, why?
nova locust
thats why I pretty much choose this one instead of the Alienware one, because this one uses the 1000 nits only for a specific 2% detail increase in lighting. otherwise it runs at 400 aparently
from what i read the alienware one is like putting the sun in front of you, beautifull but welcome headache
odd sand
Really depends on how many and how quick the local dimming zones are
The high-end Bravia and LG OLED panels are really impressive with that
nova locust
Yup, I have a g3 55 inch and that thing is amazing
I just tested with genshin and there is overexposure
yeah 400 nits is the sweet spot in this monitor
torpid kayak
my friend got his PC. As per tradition, it had some sort of unique problem.
Apparently, his wifi-card (or module or something. no antenna) was installed very near the exhaust of his 6800 XT. When he played graphic-demandi games, the GPU heated up and grilled the wifi-card toasty, causing it stopped functioning. When he stopped playing game and let the wifi-card cooled down, it functioned again.
The shop had to offer him a proper wifi card (one with antennas) and rewire the stuff. The fault was of an old technican whose knowledge was somewhat dated.
sly elk
AMD Ryzen 7945X3D could be a fast, super-efficient choice for your new gaming laptop
confusing much?
sly elk
my friend got his PC. As per tradition, it had some sort of unique problem.
Appa...
lol that's also how routers become unreliable over time
i wonder if the motherboard came with onboard wifi or they were using a m.2 wifi card
deep sapphire
burnt swallow
sly elk
really?
minor hollow
maybe just the angle
torpid kayak
I went to the dumb side
looks hot :3
sharp star
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/242885090638561280/1134372768104845422/rn...
how far was the nearest Micro Center
sly elk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/242885090638561280/1134372768104845422/rn...
i wonder if they use a knife across the top like that on purpose
how was Dalton H?
did he treat ya nicely?
paper tusk
how far was the nearest Micro Center
about 25 min drive (usually a little more because traffic on 494)
paper tusk
did he treat ya nicely?
yeah. no upselling (not that I like anything micro center sells cpu cooler wise)
sly elk
lol
paper tusk
my brain is working faster than my fingers
sly elk
all good, i do that too
sly elk
Lol
"my laptop exploded"
"what was it, the battery?"
"no it was the cpu"
Asus deserves the shit they got for it
They've been juicing Cpus for years with their motherboards lol
sharp star
"my laptop exploded"
"what was it, the battery?"
"no it was the cpu"
“For Those Who Dare”
hollow hamlet
I keep getting BSODs lately, loke often as hell. Everything I do is coming back negative for problems. Memory diagnostic, drive scans, etc.
It's not producing dump files, but I think I set it up to do so; 256kb ones. I'm not smelling melting of wires or anything, none of the capacitors look swollen. I swear to god if it's a varus 
dull garnet
dl BlueScreenView
dull garnet
109,000 cad damn
modest moss
I keep getting BSODs lately, loke often as hell. Everything I do is coming back ...
what does event viewer say?
hollow hamlet
I don't have a dump file to view, since it hasn't BSOD since I set it up to start recording and making dump files
hollow hamlet
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
But, when i'm playing games, or even in Firefox, it randomly BSOD stopcode's, how is that a clean shutdown
modest moss
do they all say the same thing?
hollow hamlet
yes
some of the "Details" are different, but the "General" description is the same
modest moss
check if anything obvious is in the Error section next
modest moss
what are the details on the one with 69 errors in the last 24 hrs
hollow hamlet
Session "dc3a3596-71e1-45a3-b2ea-39ad5322fe51" failed to start with the following error: 0xC0000022 all the same
hollow hamlet
what
modest moss
could try uninstalling those, and reinstalling
hollow hamlet
this is the expanded. I deleted the Computer name, dunno what else on there may be too sensitive to list, pls delete if there's anything important
But BSOD also happened to me recently when I was just watching RTGame videos, hands off the keyboard... hmmmm I don't think I had Epic launcher active or not, though.
modest moss
if it kept happening to me I'd reinstall windows
hollow hamlet
To be fair, it started shortly after I changed from windows 11 back down to 10
I didn't even realize it was upgrading, that's how sneaky it was x_X
maybe I should just let it upgrade and just deal with win11
I'm still not sure how it was able to downgrade back to 10, but that's when the BSOD's started
dull garnet
Clean install of 11
fleet cave
I am at a total loss. All of a sudden my game no longer has sound and not a single troubleshoot I have tried has seemed to have fixed it
umbral moss
XIV's sound engine just shits itself sometimes
the only fix I found was to restart the game client
sly elk
LOL for me the game often doesn't have voices
fleet cave
Tried that, tried restarting pc, tried ensuring game is set to borderless/windowed, tried reinstalling sound drivers, tried installing voicemeter
No matter what I do, no sound
Sound works for everything else on my PC, but not 14
This is the first time I've had this issue, and I've been playing since Heavensward x-x
Doesnt even show up in the volume mixer anymore as if the game isnt even running.
late basalt
Doesnt even show up in the volume mixer anymore as if the game isnt even running...
Make sure it’s set to the right audio device in game as well
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
dull garnet
What is she whispering
neon shell
So I got a question. With the eventual release of the new graphics update, any advice on how I can narrow down my choices for a motherboard?I don’t plan on making any changes soon, but I would be lying to you if I wasn’t somewhat intimidated
sly elk
new graphics update?
hard drift
So I got a question. With the eventual release of the new graphics update, any a...
what do you have currently?
hard drift
new graphics update?
ffxiv update
sly elk
ohhh
hard drift
new recommended specs atm are a 2060
sly elk
i have a feeling imma hate that change
hard drift
sly elk
i turned down the settings on my pc because I hated hearing my 3080ti hahaha
neon shell
what do you have currently?
I’ll let you know, but it’s pretty old at this point
hard drift
I’ll let you know, but it’s pretty old at this point
pretty old can still run the game just tbf
even with the graphics update, if you're using a 1080ti you can still play the game just fine for example
neon shell
pretty old can still run the game just tbf
HP 2B47 xD, but it has worked for me all this time
hard drift
oh gosh 😭
hard drift
well you can get solid performance from an b550+5800x3d or b660+12600kf
hard drift
I'm sorry lol
don't be, it's just HP lmao
do you want to go prebuilt route again or are you looking to build it?
neon shell
do you want to go prebuilt route again or are you looking to build it?
No prebuilt pls
hard drift
No prebuilt pls
good
neon shell
I made upgrades to what I have right now
hard drift
No prebuilt pls
wait actually, are you saying no to prebuilt or are you saying you want a prebuilt lol
neon shell
canada
modest moss
wait 10 months unless you're dead set on upgrading now, for other games
neon shell
wait 10 months unless you're dead set on upgrading now, for other games
I said in my original message, that I'm not in a rush
hard drift
yeah, it's best to wait anyways CAD prices for some of the parts seems meh
wait for like black friday or cyber monday
modest moss
ya just don't even worry about it for now, even with those increased requirements $1200 cad will get something that runs XIV great
I do second the question about what PSU and GPU you have now though
royal forge
hmm.... lads, i need to move my PC since Im transporting it. 3 hours on some fucky roads
i'll take out the GPU
but should i take out the cooler?
feels... risky
modest moss
if it's a big cooler yeah, or buy some of that internal packaging
probably just take it out and repaste it when you've moved
royal forge
im planning to lay it flat
the cooler is a AK 620
no internal packaging where I am
hmmm
there IS that uh.. air filled cushion ones
royal forge
yea
modest moss
I'd take it off
modest moss
like if you were driving on nice tarmac roads, nbd
neon shell
I do second the question about what PSU and GPU you have now though
GPU is the RTX 2060 and the psu is 600 watts. (I upgraded the gpu and psu a while ago)
royal forge
hilly AF
modest moss
GPU is the RTX 2060 and the psu is 600 watts. (I upgraded the gpu and psu a whil...
yeah you're in no hurry for XIV
neon shell
yeah you're in no hurry for XIV
good to know. I really want to run ffxiv well when the xpac comes out in the future. Thanks Shue
modest moss
they should have the benchmark tool out in plenty of time for you to upgrade if need be
modest moss
yeah there's one every expac
neon shell
Actually side question
modest moss
neon shell
but what is your opinion on overclocking?
modest moss
not much point these days unless you're fiending for big numbers
neon shell
I don't plan on doing it, but I've heard a bunch of mixed opinions
modest moss
I just use the built in boost
lime wasp
I have the parts for my PC now
Just gotta find time to put it together this weekend
modest moss
deep sapphire
!hank
opal pantherBOT
odd sand
hmm.... lads, i need to move my PC since Im transporting it. 3 hours on some fuc...
When I transport mine I just put it down flat and lay it on a folded over comforter. Pretty good shock absorbing
Drove it cross country twice and nothing happened
proven oyster
two quickies
Good time to buy a laptop? I imagine comin Black Friday season?
ANd... do Laptops have a short lifespan or can last good?
IE: If i buy for 7.0, will it last me until 9.0? ;D
royal forge
When I transport mine I just put it down flat and lay it on a folded over comfor...
Thanks for info
wraith agate
ANd... do Laptops have a short lifespan or can last good?
As always entirely depends on how you treat it
Laptops can be good if you want it to play FFXIV come 7.0 and of course if you are not planning on playing other games at ultra
Generally I advise against Laptops because they tend to be compromising on heat management due to their small size, but if you're often on the move or if you also use it for other purposes like work or school then I guess it is fine.
If you do end up buying a laptop, I recommend also buying one of those laptop coolers
proven oyster
FFXIV is basically gonna be the heaviest game i'd play
And main temptation of it is from a mix of lil things
Things like Internal battery, mobility just to shift around the home
Wanting a prebuilt cus im tired of customs. orz
sharp star
There's X3D laptop CPUs... but I wouldn't trust Asus
proven oyster
While i know a proper built, proper full PC, so n so better
The lil boons of the laptop that come in just push me in... specially since as said, FFXIV is the highest quality im likely to go around
limber hamlet
Hello, I'm a bit worried about the updated graphics situation as well. On the GPU department I'm right on the Recommended (2060 Super) but I'm falling a tad bit short on the CPU. I have a i5-9400F, will I be ok?
sharp star
A 9400F is fine but if you really are that worried about your CPU, the minimum I would go is a 12th or 13th gen i5 (possibly 14th gen when Dawntrail rolls around) or Ryzen 5 equivalent
I think an i5 12400(F)/13400(F) is fine
but that requires an entirely new socket
limber hamlet
yea I would rather not have to change motherboard as well
well thanks for the reply. I will look into it a bit more and just hope that I can run the game well enough to be enjoyable
dull garnet
9900K 
limber hamlet
9900K <:uwucarby:588388854755491860>
That is a good suggestion. Thanks. Do you know what is the important factor for FF14? I've heard that most games only utilize 1 core so is the frequency that matters? Or the cache memory?
dull garnet
Hmm, FF14 definitely likes cache
sharp star
yeah
dull garnet
9900K has nearly double, ipc will be a little better but perhaps not enough to justify an upgrade
sharp star
but only at Micro Center in the US
sharp star
Yeah the game really likes X3D CPUs so if you have to upgrade for DT, that might be a start
limber hamlet
so Cache is the most important factor? Is this for games in general or FF14?
limber hamlet
😂
dull garnet
sharp star
the uplift over the 30 series is there
...in some cases
but the ones that do have said uplift usually have shitty price tags because Nvidia
limber hamlet
btw does this benchmark even help? Doesn't this benchmark the current game?
sharp star
3080 > 4080 would be great if the 4080 were knocked down a few hundred dollars
sharp star
btw does this benchmark even help? Doesn't this benchmark the current game?
it does not simulate real gameplay with other players so YMMV
limber hamlet
ye ofc but this isn't for the graphical upgrade, is it?
sharp star
Nah DT will probably have its own benchmark
limber hamlet
ye ok
the current game runs fine in my eyes so I'm scared to look at an actual performance rating 😂
ty all for the help though
dull garnet
is it good?
Upgraded from a 3060 Ti. Performance uplift is there, dlss 3 and extra video ram helps a lot in cyberpunk. Frame generation especially is great, 50% more frames basically. Cost wise though... Not sure if I can recommend
limber hamlet
I see, thanks
glossy ravine
https://youtube.com/shorts/wzxU1JBzGW0?feature=share
Tldr: Overlooking can kill you X3D CPUs because stupid reasons
dull garnet
overclocking software LOL
I can run a negative curve on mine to get a 200MHz all core boost but it doesn't really run any cooler
royal forge
So
The removal of the cooler is no go
Im out of thermal paste
So i cant repaste
I'll have to pack it with plastic
modest moss
Just buy paste wtf
royal forge
Paste takes 2 weeks to arrive
Well, optimal delivery time
Max delivery time is 1 month
royal forge
I'm tryin my luck tomorrow
They dont sell "self build" stuff
Their tech is like
Mice and keyboards
But imma try
Not holding out too much hope tho
real edge
One will have paste
also this
the guy that builds my pc has a huge tube of thermal paste and he uses that when I bring him parts to put together
you can ask a pc repair shop if they have a tube or sth
potent arrow
:/
real edge
that sounds like a super old laptop gpu
velvet flint
bruh
potent arrow
The Nvidia GeForce MX450 (N18S-G5, N18S-G5-B, N18S-LP codename) is a dedicated entry-level mobile graphics card for laptops. It uses the same TU117 chip as the GeForce GTX 1650 but with a reduced memory bus of 64 Bit. Furthermore, the MX450 is the first mobile GPU with PCIe Gen 4 x4 support.
velvet flint
I just want to know if I hit the bare minimum
potent arrow
Yes its a 1650
Why you bruhing us we are trying to help
And ergh
sure you kinda meet the minimum ig
potent arrow
Minimum is a 970
so you are in the range
gpu wise atleast
iirc ff14 is more cpu intensive so
potent arrow
I mean if you bought something in the recent like 4-5 years you are fine
game is still very toaster friendly imo
deep sapphire
wtf is a 970
modest moss
my old laptop has a 970
royal forge
My old pc has a 970
deep sapphire
royal forge
Find u a gf that dresses up like that to spice up ur night
deep sapphire
royal forge
Get me one, Hank
deep sapphire
okay
potent arrow
I def wanna paint my next gpu purple
royal forge
Blizz really messed up OW eh
wraith agate
those were the glory days
inland mauve
limber hamlet
2016 was almost 10 years ago
That should be illegal to mention
hollow hamlet
https://tenor.com/view/gpu-kawaii-rtx-2080-gif-18883392
tiny nebula
Hi
So.....Im kinda stuck bc. I cant get a pc. So Im trying for a laptop and I dont really know if its recommended but its next to my only choice at this point.
So is there even one thats remotely decent at 800-1200 price range
USD
Planning on playing 14 ofc. MH Sunbreak. Other games that are way weaker than those 2 TBH
potent arrow
Im guessing out of size restriction?
tiny nebula
So IDK the specs
tiny nebula
Nah
Moving
And someone doesnt want me to get one.
But TBQH
I dont feel like I need it either cause of size too.
And Im not building one myself. Would have to go get someonento do it.
But I really just want a damn computer its been years pls.
minor hollow
You can get a computer that meets 14 specs in that range, probably even the next summers specs
But probably won't do much more
minor hollow
Would it need to do much besides?
tiny nebula
Nah. Just play maybe a good 2020-2021 game at max.
minor hollow
Any other work it would have to handle besides the typical web browsers, light programs
tiny nebula
nah
minor hollow
Then yeah, you wait for an Amazon sale on a gaming laptop
It will for sure cost you the higher end of your range
tiny nebula
Aye.
potent arrow
Its just more of a waste to be spening that kind of money on a laptop
you will be spending more to do be able to do less
cuz with 800-1200$ you can get a fairly chunky machine that can churn for a few years
tiny nebula
You right
cerulean talon
you will be spending more to do be able to do less
cuz with 800-1200$ you can ge...
You and I both know that churn is only good for a week, then you're going to go, "Ugh, it's so SLOOOOW."
sly elk
that's real? it's weird... and I want one..
but it's mostly weird in a not very good way
potent arrow
You and I both know that churn is only good for a week, then you're going to go,...
;-; don't remind me
When I got my 3900x I was like this be fine for a while
cerulean talon
;-; don't remind me
I could remind you of iwata airbrushes instead?
potent arrow
I picked up a new eclipse iwata lmao
potent arrow
I used to use the one my mentor gave me
cerulean talon
I love them so much.
potent arrow
I liked it, so why change right
cerulean talon
Yup.
I went from a cheap badger to iwatas.
Never looked back.
OH! I just realized my art studio is gonna need compressed air on tap.
Hrm.
This is a consideration I hadn't made.
cerulean talon
Finally seriously planning my move away from vegas.
So it's that "Oh yeah, those 100000 little things I considered, but never /thought/ about.
potent arrow
Yeah lol
deep sapphire
wait
potent arrow
I got a sparmax 620
potent arrow
I game in 1080 60hz
deep sapphire
oof
cerulean talon
you all dont have a 4090?
Youv'e only got 1 4090?
Also, I still need some legit advice on diesel trucks at some point hank.
I'm not entirely pleased w/ chevy's options atm.
Most of them only seem to offer diesel in the higher end lines, which isn't entirely what I was after as a more work-focused vehicle.
sly elk
idk if ram still makes a truck with the cummins diesel
but those are a classic choice no?
just, everyone's gonna think you're an alcoholic
cerulean talon
RAM does, and it's been a consideration.
deep sapphire
Also, I still need some legit advice on diesel trucks at some point hank.
why do you need a diesel
modern diesels arent worth buying unless you have to haul or tow large equipment
plus the RAM is easily the worst option, they have a 15 year old chassis lol
the cummins only comes with a 6 speed
cerulean talon
Hauling/towing large equipment. 😄
Otherwise yeah, I'd just get a gas truck.
I'm mostly poking around and seeing what happens, I might consider an older used diesel, but :/ on that so far.
minor hollow
you will be spending more to do be able to do less
cuz with 800-1200$ you can ge...
I wouldn't recommend a laptop either but it seems there's no choice
paper tusk
So.....Im kinda stuck bc. I cant get a pc. So Im trying for a laptop and I dont ...
if you're hell bent on a laptop... https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/loq-laptops/lenovo-loq-16aph8/82xu000yus (throw in codes extra5 and buymorelenovo to get it to $950 before tax)
odd sand
I'm mostly poking around and seeing what happens, I might consider an older used...
Not to mention diesel is so expensive these days. It used to be like a full dollar per gallon cheaper than gas, but now its like 1-2 dollars more
rose hornet
Good economy however
sly elk
plus the RAM is easily the worst option, they have a 15 year old chassis lol
15 year old chassis isn’t necessarily a bad thing
It often is though
rose hornet
Body on frame? Old chassis doesn’t mean much
The crash characteristics of the body can be updated
sly elk
I really don’t like GMs current body shape for trucks
I mostly blame the mirrors and that weird hood angle
rose hornet
But for monocoque, 15 years old is kinda yikes
sly elk
Mirrors hanging off the side of the door makes their trucks and suvs look so weird
rose hornet
I really don’t like GMs current body shape for trucks
You don’t like bricks that look like electric shavers?
rose hornet
Mirrors hanging off the side of the door makes their trucks and suvs look so wei...
Thank the obsession with having your tow mirrors at max extension at all times.
sly elk
Except instead of being a sleek little metal mirror it’s this giant weirdly round plastic turd hanging on the side of a chiseled block design
rose hornet
Tow mirrors used to be an option and now they’re just standard
rose hornet
That’s such a 1970s look
Truck owners want old truck looks with new truck comforts
They’re SUVs with beds
hard drift
you all dont game at 4K 120hz?
sly elk
No no I’m not talking about tow mirrors
I’m talking about those ones that instead of being in the corner of the window
They put them about 3/4 of the way towards the a pillar
I think it’s for aerodynamics or maybe for visibility
rose hornet
They put them about 3/4 of the way towards the a pillar
I’d have to see an example
sly elk
But it looks really dumb
rose hornet
Oh the ones that look like semi truck mirrors?
rose hornet
Yeah those are the standard mirrors
deep sapphire
They look pretty good I like the new suburban
I wish they offered the HD versions though
sly elk
Pretty much every Toyota made in the past 5 years
AFAIK it’s because they tack on the mirrors at the last second
sly elk
Because the nhtsa still doesn’t allow side cameras
rose hornet
Yeah which is dumb
sly elk
And the designers refuse to add mirrors to the design from the start anymore
rose hornet
You could have low light cameras in lieu of mirrors
sly elk
Lol I remember when bmw would put smaller mirrors tucked into the a pillr on the m3
Oh well
rose hornet
I wish the NHTSA would allow auto obscuring headlamps too
rose hornet
To adjust for oncoming traffic
sly elk
Those big things sell like hot cakes
And everyone loves the design
It’s like how I hate bmw
rose hornet
Trucks sell well for ??? Reasons and because of CAFE
rose hornet
I had been considering an E92 coupe for like 5 minutes
I am not super huge on the modern super-nostrils design
But I also hate the lexus spindle
And even after admitting its a turnoff to a bunch of customers they still stick with it
royal forge
modest moss
did you have enough paste?
modest moss
check you out being efficient
sly elk
I had been considering an E92 coupe for like 5 minutes
THE EPITOME OF CAR DESIGN
SNIFF SNIFF
MY CAR GO SNEEF SNEEF
ah here we go
rose hornet
THE EPITOME OF CAR DESIGN
Different gen
sly elk
one with the requisite stretched tires
rose hornet
Mmm, dont like that uhh… eagle
rose hornet
Those arent stretched on that miata
sly elk
or if they moved on to lifted trucks
rose hornet
Hellaflush still lives
sly elk
ya know I think my atittude about trucks is just because I don't live in a place where all the vehicles on the road are trucks
I suppose in such a town
f150 is a compact
lifted silverado 3500 long cab is your 'full size cadillac' model
rose hornet
Basically
sly elk
out here the only one that doesn't look stupid is the maverick
like if you drive this
you look like a jackass
and you have to take up 2 spaces in the back of the parking lot
because we don't have parking to fit those things
rose hornet
Yeah you look like a jackass in america with of these
sly elk
i like it when they giuve them a ton of off road mods
there's always a tactical mount spare tire
extra gas tanks
that funny looking rack
if you don't have rotopac gas tanks hanging on the side of your truck, what are you even doing anyway?
BRUH MY OVERLANDING RIG
I ALWAYS HAVE SEX ON TOP OF MY ROOF
jkjk
who here has a roof-top tent for their car/truck/suv/minivan anyway
like more power to ya but i'm curious what it's like
do you post a picture on your instagram/fb/whatever of the wilderness.. with your feet in it? XD
sly walrus
if you do that, how do you get a pic of you in your truck wearing your sunglasses
sly elk
like every red blooded american, you take that on your way to work listening to an angry dude on the AM radio station
he's talking about how the world's gone to hell in a handbasket
doesn't offer any good solutions, just the world's gone to hell
oh oops i continued this convo in the wrong chat hahaha
sly walrus
that applies to the dude on the am radio
sly elk
and to think i was going to apologize for going overboard about the side mirror thing
instead i went off the deep end about idk what
bmw idolship and overlanding
drifting knot
Hey, this is an incredibly late update, but I found the problem. It was something wrong with the PCIe cable sensor pins.
dreamy chasm
Bought a fresh tube
I hope you didn't use just a pea shape
royal forge
Right.
RIGHT.
Theres.. a single power outlet
It has to power my desktop, monitor, nespresso machine
And phone charger
And a standing fan
dreamy chasm
Just don't game while your nespresso machine's running
royal forge
Right
Removed the cpu cuz everytimr i cleaned there was more thermal paste
Turns out it was droppin onto the die itself
SO
I cleaned it with cotton bud and dish soap
Or 95% isopropyl
Now. What shape
What do ya think
@dreamy chasm
sharp star
thin layer across the IHS imo
paper tusk
I would use a little more paste but that's just me
void dove
<@169372319934840832>
generally should be the size of a pea, if you're going to do the, "place it in the middle and squish it down with the cooler" method
that looks like too little to me but could be the angle
inland mauve
<@169372319934840832>
I think that for these rectangle shaped CPUs it's recommended to to a bigger pea in the center and smaller peas inbetween the center pea and each corner
at least that's what I remember from the instructions that came with my 13700
royal forge
I tried. The X method from drepcool last time
Spilled ovrr
I'll crack it open next week and see i guess
wraith agate
Please get a desk?
royal forge
Please get a desk?
Landlord buying it tomorrow
wraith agate
The desk?
royal forge
Ye
wraith agate
I am confused
sharp star
real gamer setup
royal forge
I am confused
I just moved
The landlord offered me the glass dining chair
Which was narrow AF
So i told him i'd settle for one of those shitty office tables
dreamy chasm
<@169372319934840832>
Line straight down the middle
Pea used to work for square sized ILMs but 13th gen just requires a bit more for total coverage
wraith agate
I used the X on my 13th gen
CPU itself is cool but apparently everything around the CPU is 60C+
dreamy chasm
CPU itself is cool but apparently everything around the CPU is 60C+
VRM's will generally get somewhat hot during usage but
As long as they aren't surpassing 90c it's kind of whatever
wraith agate
It doesn't
dreamy chasm
Yeah, wouldnt worry about it then
vrms start to throttle at 100c and are designed to work beyond that, and a half decent motherboard should only really max out at 80-90ish
wraith agate
Not sure if we speak of the same thing tho
I mean the CPU package here
CPU itself is whatevs but what's the package
void dove
cpu package, is just another measurement on the CPU anyway
its a measurement inside the IHS somewhere
wraith agate
but it's nothing to worry about, yes?
void dove
i wouldnt get hung up on differences
nope
if u wanna go crazy, try and figure out individual CPU die differences, CCD,s, caches, etc
void dove
royal forge
Or can i just top up
void dove
Do i need to remove the old one?
not if its litearlly brand new
royal forge
Aite. Thanks
royal forge
I might d small X then
royal forge
Thermal grizzly gave me the spatula
void dove
dont worry about overoding paste
royal forge
But im worried about messing up
void dove
if some seeps over the side, it dont matter
royal forge
Aite
void dove
better to overdo than underdo
royal forge
Just held it then rubbed it with alcohol
void dove
uh ok
royal forge
I dont like the mess
void dove
paste affects nothing, its non-conductive
so having paste around, really doesn't matter
royal forge
Haha. So i spread it over the entire surface?
void dove
put an X, or a line, or a pea (but you know the 13th gen is a rectangle, so a pea isn't a good idea)
anything that will spread well, and enough to spread to the edges
if when removing it, you saw missing areas of paste
then you didn't put enough originally
royal forge
Gotcha
void dove
the IHS should be covered
void dove
thats good
royal forge
I'll do it when my desk arrives
And when i can get internet
A reallllll ballache
Ugh the telco coverage here is 3G sometimes
The wind blows funny and i go to E
sharp star
X and line cover most of the IHS but I like a thin spread for covering the entire IHS
royal forge
Ok
sharp star
I think GN tested pea vs. big blob vs. thin spread vs. too much paste some years ago
they're within margin of error of each other but obviously don't go with the "too much paste" method
sharp star
So... too much paste?
real edge
says it has worked for him for a very long time
thin lines rather than thick
so nothing spills over
dreamy chasm
But im worried about messing up
Better a little too much than too little
royal forge
Tomorrow
real edge
But im worried about messing up
royal forge
Thanks
wraith agate
Got annoyed with dumbass Muskrat and his app pushing people I dislike onto my feed so I uninstalled the app and rated it 1 star on play
sharp star
#BlockTheBlue
wraith agate
Damn right
paper tusk
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1023437101737455699/1133587777494200372...
now we're cooking
modest moss
This is what Noctua told me to do for my 12700k
one large blob in the middle and a small blob in each corner
inland mauve
that is what I did for my 13700k
modest moss
worked well based on temps I get
but tbh as long as you get a reasonable layer over the whole cpu it doesn't matter much how you get it done
real edge
^
wraith agate
This is what Noctua told me to do for my 12700k
That's what Deepcool said too then I saw how much they gave me so I went for cross
real edge
my friend said the england flag shape helps him get the spread evenly across the whole CPU and it doesn't spill over, but not my words
modest moss
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