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#technology-discussion
cerulean talon
"I have a working gameplay loop that needs visuals" is a much better sell down the line than "I have an idea that I haven't theorized out yet"
wraith agate
For now I'm gonna use developer cubes, textures and models to get my idea down
cerulean talon
Yarp.
wraith agate
Mhm
dreamy chasm
A bunch of games have gotten away with just using premades
wraith agate
Same wavelength
cerulean talon
Of course, as a professional software developer, I prefer the latter, because I know I'll deliver whatever the hell I say I will.
.>
But man that makes rasing money hard.
dreamy chasm
More and more people are generally becoming more skeptical when it comes to backing game fundraisers as of late too
wraith agate
Stalker is one of my fave games and it's using an outdated af engine, crappy models, lots of reskins, the public sound library and no music
cerulean talon
More and more people are generally becoming more skeptical when it comes to back...
Yeah, because people have no idea of how to price or time things.
Even professionals who have done it for years (Myself included) are fucking /awful/ at it.
wraith agate
Yeah I started at a bad time, bygone the times of Kickstarter just funding anything
dreamy chasm
Moreso just that most of the projects that run through those platforms end up being duds
cerulean talon
Yeah, because of poor management usually. 😄
As a software eng, I've had dozens of ideas I could kickstart, but I'd never follow through on them because they're not interesting enough to me.
wraith agate
However, I'm not going to give up so easily
cerulean talon
I know I'd be bad at managing it, so it's not worth it. Most developers think "Oh, I'm fine at that buisness side stuff" and find out they're not.
dreamy chasm
If vampire survivors and battlebit says anything about successful games on low resources
wraith agate
As long as the base demo I can make is fun to play, I can get some funds to get people to help flesh out the visuals
dreamy chasm
You can probably make it without needing a large sum of capital if you capture a part of the market with something engaging
wraith agate
I want to do something for starters that's been sitting on my mind for a while
I have an entire universe to play with, but I'm not going to wager that just yet
cerulean talon
As a general suggestion, as you do that, consider if you can build things to reuse (Yes, I know that's stupid and repetitive), but it still bears repeating.
wraith agate
A movement shooter for beginners. I know the market has been saturated and yet, I find nothing that captures the same feelings I had when playing Titanfall 2
cerulean talon
That's because there's nothing out there that's a decent movement shooter.
They focus on the ground-based movement and ignore the 3rd dimension, as almost every game does.
wraith agate
I got some ideas how to fix that
Obviously I won't make a multiplayer just yet
Netcode scary
But a singleplayer with a good gameplay and engaging enemies
cerulean talon
I've really wanted to think about how to redesign netcode entirely as a core module.
It seems like it'd be fun.
wraith agate
Tbh one particular idea I had which I might do, introduces the movement alright, but lacks the shooter part
dreamy chasm
That's because there's nothing out there that's a decent movement shooter.
I think there's a few
wraith agate
A sort of puzzle game that has speed and movement as part of the puzzle, where you have to think fast on your feet and the floor is lava
dreamy chasm
But, one of them's a battle royal, and a lot of the other ones are either defunct or have low player counts
cerulean talon
If you're thinking Apex Legends, that's def not a movement shooter.
cerulean talon
And yeah, TF2 is technically still active
the TF2 alt multiplayer servers are acutually p.dece.
dreamy chasm
Issue with these high skillcap games with niche communities is that the entry barrier is pretty high
Get in a random lobby and get nuked by someone the second you show a pixel of your hitbox because they have 4000 more hours in the game than you 
cerulean talon
That's true about any high skillcap game tho.
dreamy chasm
Yeah, but it's harder to sort players through matchmaking to similar skill levels if you have a small playerbase
dreamy chasm
True, but why bother?
Why not?
cerulean talon
Why not?
The idea that the game knows what's "Fair" and what I want to do, is patiently false.
dreamy chasm
I doubt people find it particularly fun to get absolutely floored with no chance at fighting back
cerulean talon
I like to make my own decisions, and yes, I know I'm in the minority.
dreamy chasm
It's why ranked mm generally exists for a lot of competitive games, with people complaining if the queue system is flawed enough to let people in vastly different skill brackets queue into each other
You are.
cerulean talon
I usually am anyway. 😄
dreamy chasm
I'm part of the minority too
But
It won't change the fact that most other people operate differently
cerulean talon
Mmhmm, and I don't have a reason to want to make my gameplay worse to make theirs better. 😄
This is also why I don't tend to deal with these types of projects.
dreamy chasm
Oh boy
cerulean talon
You should do the hilarious thing, and support UTF32
dreamy chasm
Emoji passwords
cerulean talon
Thsoe fit in UTF8
dreamy chasm
cerulean talon
Emojis are well within the main utf-8 space.
dreamy chasm
Can't wait for the day that 💩 💩 💩 😤 😫 is a valid wifi password
wraith agate
most secure password
cerulean talon
Can't wait for the day that 💩 💩 💩 😤 😫 is a valid wifi password
You can.
Just use punycode translation.
wraith agate
password requirements in 2035:
- Must have a capital letter
- Must have a number
- Must have a special character
- Must have an emoji
- Password must be between 8 and 15 characters
cerulean talon
Emoji's are special characters.
wraith agate
yeah but even specialer
cerulean talon
They're not.
wraith agate
shh
cerulean talon
Welcome to UTF, and the insanity of what happens when you try to encode fonts, into a letter-based keyspace.
😄
cerulean talon
Tbh, unicode is why kupo can't use default discord emoji's.
Which is fucking hilarious.
cerulean talon
isn't db a server technically?
No, no, it's a serverless database.
You see, due to the magic of google, you can have databases without servers now.
wraith agate
ah is that the so called cloud?
cerulean talon
(I know enough of this particular arch. :D)
wraith agate
why are you sharing your private key
wraith agate
I see
cerulean talon
One of the most fun things I've realized about encryption over the years.
Particularly for something like pkeys.
Is if you just store the raw bytes for the pkey, and none of the formatting.
You can never tell if the decryption key is correct, unless you decrypt another piece of known data.
Yeah, but for someone trying to /crack/ the key
They don't want to do that.
😄
It's usually not an issue because the encrypted data is plaintext <languge
Same goes for most pkeys, because they're not internally stored as ascii
or base64, they're stored as bytes, so if you encrypt the bytes, it's just another random stream of data.
Shouldn't matter if it's hex or not.
But yeah.
Tbh, it's like anything AES, unless there's a wekness in your library or your CSPRNG, you're not gonna have anything other than a brute force attack really
And lets be fair, most AES libraries now just wrap AES-NI, so that would require a compromised piece of /hardware/ and not even bad software.
Now, the fun thing to do, would be to randomly intersperse some triple-des or someting
Just to really fuck with someone.
Remember to enable a developer console warning
Like everyone else has to because people are dumb and run js in the console.
sly elk
onedrive: many of your files were deleted recently
-notification goes away before he can finish reading it- xD I did do that.. so cool they let people know
odd sand
Oh boy
If I had to guess, I'd place my bets on offering demos/previews for live streams. IE: Summer Gamefest is livestreamed, as it ends, a dozen game demos become available on youtube for streaming immediately for X amount of time.
golden stream
GIMME DAT
dreamy chasm
It's so cute
golden stream
If I had to guess, I'd place my bets on offering demos/previews for live streams...
It rides on the popularity/mention/etc
golden stream
It's so cute
F THE EDGY GAMER AESTHETIC, WHERE COMFY CUTE CAT GAMER DESIGNS
odd sand
It rides on the popularity/mention/etc
I'm lost now. What are you talking about.
golden stream
I mean the demo/preview of games presented/teased in big events like TGA/Summer Gamefest/etc
A lot of games/indie games ride on that hype train and release their thingy, hoping getting clicks
The rest is algorithm works
I discovered a few nice indies along that train lel
GRIS and Spiritfarer are one of such
modern iris
hello memory leak my old friend
odd sand
hello memory leak my old friend
golden stream
hello memory leak my old friend
How tho
modern iris
How tho
So my bot was pulling all of the xiv item data into a map, which was about... 41k entries total with just an ID and item name
And before it wasn't so bad but
I decided to throw a cron job in there to update that list daily in case new items ever come out and I don't feel like manually updating it myself
but the way I did it, I would throw it into setTimeout with a global variable in there somewhere
Which never cleared out when it ran completely
golden stream
Fair
Like usual it's around 200MB-ish if just ID + item names
Then......that
Hoo boi le leak
Also which distro iz dat?
wraith agate
I am still shocked that the same components I ordered from Amazon.de costs €200 more in local stores
Why in the bloody fuck
dull garnet
overheads
dreamy chasm
Also
Those parts might've been stocked when prices were higher in the psat
They have to retain the high sales price or just give up any margin they have whatsoever
wraith agate
Technical question
If I changed the phone number on my amazon account because I have a new one, but I ordered stuffs before changing it, will Amazon update the delivery company with the new number?
Do they even pass my phone number over?
paper tusk
phone only seems to matter with amazon contracted final delivery (instead of a regular package service)
wraith agate
See, I've no idea, while this isn't the first time I'm ordering from Amazon, prior to this, I only ordered from the US and UK, both of which seem drastically different from the german one
dreamy chasm
They usually have tracking numbers attached
dreamy chasm
Do they even pass my phone number over?
The secondary courier will use whatever you had on your amazon address iirc
wraith agate
That's the thing
dreamy chasm
Since it's printed on the label.
wraith agate
I changed the phone number
wraith agate
That's what I wanna know
And since I do live an apartment where the door phone doesn't work, I wanna know if they update drivers if things change or if I have to track the driver down myself
I do not want them to send back my package because "they couldn't deliver it since nobody was home"
Local drivers are damn lazy
Though if they send a message to my email that's good too
lost python
I have never had them try to call me on my phone about a package
If you don't answer the door within 0.5 seconds they either fuck off or leave it at the door
wraith agate
I hope they don't leave it at the door
Especially if the package is big
My apartment complex is full of unsavory people
inland mauve
it's really hit or miss, it depends on the delivery person
it's very shitty that they care so little about the packages they carry
but unfortunately delivery companies usually also make it impossible to complain
lost python
They make it impossible to take care of the packages
Because people are pressured like hell and constantly threatened to lose money or their job if they aren't as efficient as they want them to be
inland mauve
it's all part of the system
pressure your delivery people beyond human limits, then make it so that customers can't complain
the orders will keep coming
because people won't stop ordering shit
dreamy chasm
I think thisll drop an amount once platforms- that are able to just take returns and send refunds like it's nothing, like Amazon stop being tenable
umbral moss
pressure your delivery people beyond human limits, then make it so that customer...
amazon pioneered the strategy of engineering the "human" out of "human resources"
work harder, hard worker
dull garnet
radiant dagger
sly elk
surprising absolutely nobody
https://arstechnica.com/google/2023/06/rip-to-my-pixel-fold-dead-after-four-days/
dull garnet
that is very funny
sly elk
my fold4 is still working and I do use it daily but I admit the front screen has a scratch on it lol
it's either a scratch or a crack, I'm not sure tbh
hmm nah it's a scratch. Fairly deep one. It kept slipping out of my hands one day on my desk >>
the inside screen is still muy bueno
odd sand
The folding tech needs to go a long ways yet before I'll want one
Still has that very visible crease in it and yeah ... smashing something into it unless you're very very careful
sly elk
the way the samsung phones are designed, it's pretty hard (but not impossible) to smash dirt into the screen because the screen halves don't touch when closed
but there's still lots of issues, including that crease
also if you don't keep the hinge clean, eventually the 'sweep brooms' that are there to keep dirt out of the inside of the mechanism.. break off and jam the hinge
it's amazing how normal they feel to use otherwise though
late basalt
the way the samsung phones are designed, it's pretty hard (but not impossible) t...
tbf, it's almost never dirt that's causing issues. it'd be keys, pocket change, other random shit, etc
minor hollow
oh no my tiny 0.25cm steel pyramids
they've fallen into my pocket with my folding phone
oh noooooooooo
spring raven
pringles is clearly a d&d rogue who starts with that bag of 1000 ball bearings
and put them all into the same pocket as the folding phone
spring raven
haha
sly elk
tbf, it's almost never _dirt_ that's causing issues. it'd be keys, pocket change...
if you put your phone in the same pocket as keys, change, etc.. you deserve what you get lol
i wonder if that has become a dating strategy right there: "Check what their phone looks like, if it's broken they probably lead an active lifestyle and would be a good partner!"
spring raven
That's terrible advice, my last phone had a broken screen cuz I'm a klutz, not because I live in active lifestyle
sly elk
this dude on macrumors lol
they upgraded to the m2 ultra model
OOO
the 4090ti has the PCB mounted sideways instead
sly elk
you can have all the 4090tis. let me have a mac pro. xD
I'll even take the intel one
actually that dude doesn't even need it anymore i should take it XD
sly elk
Yea it's ugly and huge and gross
I really dislike the 40 series for how comically huge they have gotten
And is funny because I love 3 fan GPUs
But not ones that occupy 4 slots and weigh 10lbs!
inland mauve
I remember back when I first saw a 1080 Ti
odd sand
Especially when you consider the size of the actual addon board is quite small.
inland mauve
and I thought that was comically huge
sly elk
Lol
I remember seeing people with evga 1080ti cards and envying those because they looked really cool
Now it's like
odd sand
They just need to make a case standard where the entire right side of the case is a rad with mesh and standard hookups. Then you just make every GPU have a waterblock on it.
sly elk
Even the 6650xt in my Sim rig is probably bigger lol
inland mauve
wait the chip is going to be PARALLEL to the mobo in the 4090 Ti??
they've actually done it, they've made a GPU as tall as its chip is wide
dreamy chasm
they upgraded to the m2 ultra model
Double cheesegrater 
dreamy chasm
The folding tech needs to go a long ways yet before I'll want one
I think the only way to have folding tech that doesn't actively degrade at this point is to just have two bezel-less displays that join together
umbral moss
i wonder if that has become a dating strategy right there: "Check what their pho...
this is statistically proven to be a negative, especially among iphone users
"ew, your screen is cracked? what a poor"
dreamy chasm
I instantly know to avoid someone of someone shames me for not having an iphone
wraith agate
Neat news
I soon may be upgrading to 2 gbit/s net
and I do hope I do because wtf
on my current ISP, during the day it always gets so crowded
so not just I do upgrade but also switch ISP
real edge
ping is not dependant on internet speed, but the routing
aka the nodes your internet provider has bought to make sure your connection arrives at the destination
umbral moss
imagine a free internet 
also, I remember the old XIV colo where there was that stupid slapfight between comcast and L3 over who owned the nodes at the canadian border and therefore who should be in charge of maintaining them
so instead of someone biting the bullet and fixing them, nobody fixed them and comcast users just got to eat shit for like three months 
wraith agate
aka the nodes your internet provider has bought to make sure your connection arr...
that's the issue, the speed is bonus
but ISP is pretty bad when coming to nodes
also Yurop
which means half of the nodes belong to someone else
dreamy chasm
ngl, its genuinely surprising how little this sips comparing to my old card
used to be 50-60w on desktop
umbral moss
did nvidia ever address the two monitor issue where it forces 3d clocks whenever you have the desktop open
the only time my GPU is idle is when I have the desktop locked 
dreamy chasm
Not on my card, no
1660 super was running on 3d clock on desktop
6700xt's sipping power by comparison
lone zealot
Seems MS wants every PC in the world to be a cloud-based thin-client. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/27/23775117/microsoft-windows-11-cloud-consumer-strategy
umbral moss
Seems MS wants every PC in the world to be a cloud-based thin-client. https://w...
we've come full circle
MS literally made its money from blowing up the mainframe/terminal paradigm
and here we are, with the same shit but now we call it The Cloud
lone zealot
now they was to charge a subscription for using windows
umbral moss
now they was to charge a subscription for using windows
they always did though lmao
windows updates were never free
inland mauve
I'm going to move to Linux if they do that
umbral moss
inland mauve
because fuck that
fuck not having offline access to my own fucking OS if my internet goes out
lone zealot
huh? Never paid for system updates for windows. Now if you are talking about a version upgrade, then yes, but that was a one time charge in the past. I haven't paid for Windows since 8
umbral moss
huh? Never paid for system updates for windows. Now if you are talking about a...
that's because MS pivoted to this dogshit subscription model instead
"you get free windows upgrades!" 🎉
they ain't free, dawg
lone zealot
What subscriptions are you talking about? Office 365? That's not needed for Windows
umbral moss
also, a "one time charge" every 3-ish years still amounts to a functional subscription
it's just not monthly revenue
which is what MS really wants, because shareholder value
enshittification comes for every industry
dreamy chasm
Seems MS wants every PC in the world to be a cloud-based thin-client. https://w...
HAHAHA no thanks
Jesus fuck
umbral moss
I'm just mad that I'm old enough to have seen a full cycle of enshittification
MS literally sold windows on the premise that you should own and control your own machine and software
fucking christ, this remote service session is a shitshow
I hate when customers demand that we do a remote conference and they have literally nothing set up
sharp star
Seems MS wants every PC in the world to be a cloud-based thin-client. https://w...
yeah this might convince me to drop Windows entirely
dreamy chasm
POV: you shoved an 8 core into a system with an itx cooler
umbral moss
lone zealot
hmm. Did Intel come out with a molten silicon CPU?
dreamy chasm
?
paper tusk
now we're cooking
lone zealot
@dreamy chasm 95C is a little too toasty for solicon
dreamy chasm
Not really
Ryzen 7000 was designed to boost until it hit 95c
As long as it was within power limits
RDNA2 cards cap out at 105
lone zealot
well, water boils at 100C
royal forge
I love the extra twist of black pepper
royal forge
Nice?
dreamy chasm
I might get one eventually
lone zealot
That's not black pepper. That's thermal compound :p
dreamy chasm
Just waiting for the used market on those chips to ramp up
dull garnet
And a peerless assassin
dreamy chasm
I can't wait to get a 5800x3d just to lock it to 65w
dull garnet
dreamy chasm
There's only so much this tiny thing can do
lone zealot
@dreamy chasm in ref to the CPU steak gif
dreamy chasm
?
lone zealot
sigh, nevermind
dreamy chasm
Anyways
dreamy chasm
I know.
royal forge
Ah
dreamy chasm
Yeah
golden stream
There's only so much this tiny thing can do
Ahhhh yesh the lovely l9i/a
It's hella expensib in my placetho 
odd sand
There's only so much this tiny thing can do
I have something similar to that for my server as well. 92mm height one I think
dreamy chasm
I have something similar to that for my server as well. 92mm height one I think
Ah 
I'd have gotten something bigger but
My case is tiny 😔
dull garnet
the peerless assassin i ordered trades blows with the nh-d15 for less than half the price
dreamy chasm
Yeah
They probably didn't have to do as much R&D
I wonder what their margins are ;like
That said
Noctua mentioned something like an NH-D16 coming up in the future, I think?
I wonder what that'd be like
dreamy chasm
I remember when the 212 evo was still the default rec
dull garnet
212 are so much now
inland mauve
what do they even want to do to upgrade from the NH-D15, that thing is already so fucking huge
dreamy chasm
used to joke about blood sacrifices to the cooling gods whenver someone would cut themselves trying to get those shits in
dull garnet
ywn own a full copper TRUE
dreamy chasm
what do they even want to do to upgrade from the NH-D15, that thing is already s...
Likely just refinements on the design
dull garnet
what do they even want to do to upgrade from the NH-D15, that thing is already s...
scythe orochi esque?
dreamy chasm
Scythe coolers were wild for a while
resatsu my beloved
GURANDU KAMA COROSSU
Then they wised up and started making rectangle blocks with fans that just performed well
hard drift
the peerless assassin i ordered trades blows with the nh-d15 for less than half ...
bring on the nh-d15 v2 
even more cooling 
dreamy chasm
It'll probably be one or two degrees at best
Unless they've genuinely found something groundbreaking
That isn't like, an extra 200g of heatsink
or more heatpipes
hard drift
It'll probably be one or two degrees at best
it's 2 extra heatpipes and further optimizations they said if i remember correctly
dreamy chasm
Like, in what sense ?
hard drift
I'm surprised it hasn't leaked at this point
they showed it off at computex
dreamy chasm
Oh
eager fjord
Like my whole room feels warm
dreamy chasm
I'm way out of the loop, then
hard drift
Like my whole room feels warm
yes that's normal
eager fjord
And my pc has been running warm
dreamy chasm
Like my whole room feels warm
Yes
eager fjord
But I’ve left it running for 20 hours
dreamy chasm
Computers output heat
eager fjord
Thank you everyone
hard drift
But I’ve left it running for 20 hours
lmao
dreamy chasm
That'll do it.
eager fjord
And how often should I clean
hard drift
And how often should I clean
depends on environment
dreamy chasm
Every few months once things look dusty
hard drift
i clean mine every month roughly
eager fjord
depends on environment
Veryyyyy dusty
dull garnet
PCs don't just heat up forever :p
eager fjord
Every few months once things look dusty
Thank you what do u usually use an air duster or vacuum ?
dreamy chasm
I'd probably wait until the heatsinks are starting to get a buildup
dull garnet
you'll reach a certain temp and it shouldn't go much over, doesn't matter how long it runs
hard drift
I'm way out of the loop, then
the new cooler has more heatpipes and their next generation fan which is improved on their most popular one
eager fjord
you'll reach a certain temp and it shouldn't go much over, doesn't matter how lo...
Yeah this is basically what happens haha it reaches this warm temp then never goes up
dreamy chasm
Air dusters abd vacuums are fine, I've been using a can of compressed air-- but that isn't necessary if you have a duster or vacuum that's powerful enough
dull garnet
you can clean dust like every 6 months, even then i doubt it'll be enough to make a difference
eager fjord
Thx I’ll get the compressed air actually
dreamy chasm
the new cooler has more heatpipes and their next generation fan which is improve...
I'll be waiting for the copies that sell for a lot less 
dull garnet
unless you smoke/live in a super dusty environment
eager fjord
you can clean dust like every 6 months, even then i doubt it'll be enough to mak...
Oh it’s mainly just so it doesn’t block fans or anything I’m worried about
dreamy chasm
I'd use my vacuum to clean more if it wasn't the loudest thing in the house
hard drift
I'll be waiting for the copies that sell for a lot less <:Kappa:2746968324441374...
yeah, i think the coolest one i saw was one that changes colors as it heats up lol
eager fjord
I heard vacuum is bad
dull garnet
Oh it’s mainly just so it doesn’t block fans or anything I’m worried about
you'd need a ton of dust for that to happen
eager fjord
you'd need a ton of dust for that to happen
Ahhhh I c so it’s more so for cosmetic purpose when cleaning dust out of Pc ?
Or it helps with performance
dull garnet
there is a point where dust makes a difference
hard drift
I heard vacuum is bad
if you're worried get a datavac
dull garnet
but you'd have to have not cleaned your pc for a year plus
eager fjord
if you're worried get a datavac <:Prayge:796414754054078464>
I have no clue what that is 💀
dreamy chasm
Oh, huh
eager fjord
but you'd have to have not cleaned your pc for a year plus
Oh yeah it’s been 6 months
dreamy chasm
I haven't had to worry about this since I live in high humidity
eager fjord
I’m thinking of ordering one of these
I’ll show you
Hopefully this one is decent
dull garnet
canned air is kinda bad
eager fjord
Oh really ?
hard drift
dull garnet
i'd suggest a soft brush to brush light dust off
eager fjord
https://www.amazon.com/Metro-DataVac-500-Watt-0-75-HP-Electric/dp/B001J4ZOAW/ref...
Thank you very much
I’ll look for a soft brush Ty
hard drift
it has a brush attachment
dull garnet
i kinda want a small air compressor..
hard drift
but you use a brush to loosen the dirt and then you use the datavac
hard drift
those things suck ass
hard drift
i have one, get the datavac especially for only 15 dollars extra
eager fjord
I did it’s $450
hard drift
wtf
eager fjord
Lemme have a look
eager fjord
$200!
Still too much for me
Use my pet kangaroos
Jk but I’ll find a cheaper alternative if I can
hard drift
just think of it as an investment
eager fjord
This one
eager fjord
Damnnn
hard drift
yeah but it's not very strong in my experience, that one could be better but i haven't had luck with the handheld ones vs a datavac
grim rock
those things suck ass
always get corded not cordless for that kinda stuff
batteries suck on those devices
hard drift
oh i'm well aware lol
odd sand
@dreamy chasm My favorite older design is the TT Blue Orb:
odd sand
Was released at a time when 90mm fans were still the norm, so having a whopping 120mm fan that only had to run at like 1200rpm was amazing
dreamy chasm
I can imagine
I also remember when motherboards were a mess of different colors
Now we rarely see a pcb that isn't pure black or white on consumer stuff
odd sand
I won a 7200rpm delta 90mm at a lan party once, I used it for like an hour before removing it bc it sounded like a hair dryer
odd sand
I forget if it was before or after the blue orb that I had one of these:
void dove
i kinda want a small air compressor..
i have the most janky ass thing to clean my PC, but its fucking great.
its a 35+ year old paint sprayer, basically a aircompresser without a reservoir, it just pumps air if you put nothin on the end of the nozzle.
its amazing for the job. my dad has it as he literally used it to paint our fences when they built the house, and he never throws anything away 🤣
odd sand
Made to look like a butterfly, but it just meant it was super easy to dent the fins on the ends
void dove
cute
dull garnet
actually handy to keep on hand what with old consoles and cartridges etc
odd sand
I get very little dust in my case since having the plastic mesh filters, so I just use a can of airduster. I bought a 2pack like 8 years ago and I still have 1 mostly full can left.
eager fjord
<:haha:240841245239410688>
whats those called
woops wrong msg meant the image u sent
dull garnet
its older now but a nikon d600
dull garnet
dunno what would be a good starter camera these days. probably wouldn't suggest looking at one of these, decade old now
potent arrow
i have one of these for light dust
lol I use that for my camera still
Works well on the censor
also a d600 is still fine tbh for beginers dslr
I know plenty of people who learned on that first, it can take nice shots and teach manual mode well
dreamy chasm
I'm a basic ass bitch and just use my phone camera
dull garnet
i just meant more procuring a decent example considering the issues with the body
and yes, image quality is still great
dreamy chasm
I can't afford to keep a dslr around, I think
potent arrow
Im spoiled rotten my first camera was a canon t6
Im now using a plethora of sony mirrorless : P
dreamy chasm
oh, it's still in and working perfectly
I've been using the shitdrive as a game drive after moving my boot to the nvme
potent arrow
good lord
dreamy chasm
i've been liking the quarter minute boottimes 
but, these things are cheap right now
and idk if the price will stay this low on NAND
dull garnet
was thinking of getting something cheap for my ps4 pro like that
dull garnet
i would think you'd want a better quality drive for that
unless you don't care about durability
dreamy chasm
I don't record super high bitrates, and don't record often
dull garnet
ah right
dreamy chasm
ye
If I was using it for 4k ingress i'd def look into a more durable drive
but it's just for raid prog or apex stream archives ig
potent arrow
lol I have a 8tb HDD for my captures
because I like recording the last hour of my screen
dreamy chasm
fair
I'd maybe consider an HDD if I already wasn't out of space in my rig
I can barely fit a gpu
Only room for one 2.5mm drive too 😔
dreamy chasm
no money for nas 😔
well
i could maybe buy a switch and a really old core 2 duo desktop to shove drives in, i guess
dreamy chasm
they rarely happen here
potent arrow
I have a nice epyc rig in the works rn after a certain SOMEONE COUGH
dreamy chasm
people use hardware until it gives out, or resell it at unreasonable amounts
potent arrow
@cerulean talon
COUGH
Showed me an epyc embeded board
and I impulsely bought it
dull garnet
kinda want something like this to serve as a light nas
dreamy chasm
20 bucks
potent arrow
SCORE
potent arrow
lmfaoa just sit it on top
dreamy chasm
no spacee
unless i like
leave the side panel open and stick it in with command strips
man
why are the sff systems cheaper than the fully atx ones
potent arrow
No I mean like cut a hole in the case
and run the cables thorgh
I would do that : P
and command strip the drives together
Ghetto garbage I used to do
dreamy chasm
maybe
if used atx stuff isn't much more expensive ill probs just shoot for one of those
a
gaming..
dreamy chasm
i dont think thats worth more than 100-130
potent arrow
If I can get it down to 110$ its a steal
potent arrow
because I sell those for 160$ LMFAO
dull garnet
4GB
dreamy chasm
i dont need harddrives if I'm buying one
I wonder why they'd be selling these without the ram or harddrive, though
liquidation seller?
dreamy chasm
dreamy chasm
potent arrow
Ive been buying old gpus to sell to low end cusotmers
This thing still looks pretty clean
dreamy chasm
RX580's are going for 80USD these days
I think
But I guess the threat of these being used for mining put people off
potent arrow
Do you meet up and test the cards yourself
I test them on my TP lol
dreamy chasm
TP?
potent arrow
lol no
Do i have a picture somewwhere....
no
But I have a shitty psu set up for it
dreamy chasm
oh
Nevermind, I get it
Do you have one of those express to pcie adapters that have a 6 pin gpu psu input too
dreamy chasm
Yeah, it all makes sense now
I know someone who runs an r9 290 off one of these, connected to their thinkpad for gaming
Propped it up using a book
potent arrow
HEY WHAT
dull garnet
did i mention i found a guy with 6x 4850 X2 at a flea market, wanted £20
potent arrow
TACTICALLY COVERED WITH THE BOARD
dreamy chasm
LMAO
dull garnet
should have got them but that is insanity i'd rather not deal with anymore
dreamy chasm
what're the specs
dreamy chasm
HAHAHAHHA
potent arrow
dull garnet
...
dreamy chasm
fucking simp
dull garnet
2060 lmaooooooooo
dreamy chasm
did i mention i found a guy with 6x 4850 X2 at a flea market, wanted £20
i wouldve gotten it for shits and giggles, ngl
dull garnet
i wouldve gotten it for shits and giggles, ngl
recently sold showed like £60-80 each
people making leet XP builds i guess
dreamy chasm
this with a core 2 quad
void dove
that he command stripped rgb lighting to
unfortunately, ive seen worse.
potent arrow
I now have a pile of PS4s I need to repair
dreamy chasm
i miss seeing janky dual gpu cards that ran like jet turbines under load
How hard is port repair
I've been meaning to try my hand at it for a while
dreamy chasm
Ah
potent arrow
Full rework station
dreamy chasm
Makes sense
I have a shitty yihua iron, and that's it
I could maybe consider buying a used hakko rework station if I can find one
man
potent arrow
Bought this off my school for a lil cheaper but
I do recomend it
Hakko sucks >_> , I dont know why people still think its good
potent arrow
I see people use this a lot
and i know for a fact that its much better then hakko
because anything is
dreamy chasm
I see
mmh
Do you think I could get away with a pinecil and a random hot air rework station
dreamy chasm
They seem to work better than the cheap shit you can get for the same price
potent arrow
I just rec anyone to buy proper soldering tools the first time around
sly elk
this is statistically proven to be a *negative*, especially among iphone users
I always thought it meant they were careless or clumsy. Nothing more
dreamy chasm
I guess I'm waiting a long time
potent arrow
just save for a weller1010
dreamy chasm
Have you tested the pinecil yet 
sly elk
But I’d get a good laugh out of people who carry their phone in a bulky otter box case and somehow they still broke it
dreamy chasm
I've only heard good things about it from hobbyists
potent arrow
Its literally what I do for a living
sly elk
I just rec anyone to buy proper soldering tools the first time around
I agree. It’s one of those things where a bad soldering tool makes it AWFUL
potent arrow
It just loses all of its heat every joint I do
dreamy chasm
Ah.
potent arrow
so it fucking sucks and causes so many cold joints unless I crank the temperature and fry the tip
dreamy chasm
Running off of 65w I'd assume?
sly elk
How about a hakko
potent arrow
Blegh
They used to be good but holy shit they are dated now
look at their interface and thats all you need to know
dreamy chasm
I can get an 888d for 100
sly elk
Yea but a cheap weller just has a knob
potent arrow
It works, but you arnt going to have a fun time setting it up
This is what I buy for people now kyance
sly elk
Admittedly the knob is better lol
potent arrow
dreamy chasm
not even sure if this is real
potent arrow
Much better then spamming the up and down
sly elk
It is
potent arrow
on a tiny 7 segment
dreamy chasm
oh, actually
hmm
ig i can save up
Issue is the threat of needing to move all of my stuff if shit goes south where I'm living
So I probably wouldn't be able to bring this with me 
dreamy chasm
I'll weigh my options I guess
potent arrow
I dont have much stuff but my work station is fucked
potent arrow
most of my stuff is designed to be moved, so I wont have too many issues I hope
I own a metric ton of milquakee packout boxes for everything
potent arrow
Make it your priority
potent arrow
I dont think I can live without my pc
potent arrow
you should start saving to pack up the expensive shit ngl
just have it under your desk so you can take your entire pc set up
and like me, have a duffel with a weeks worth of clothes
dreamy chasm
I still need to get a suitcase big and durable enough
dreamy chasm
Maybe a portable monitor
potent arrow
for a long time
dreamy chasm
I just need something I can lug around
potent arrow
MIlkcrate
dreamy chasm
Onto a plane?
potent arrow
I mean for carry on : P
but if on plane look out for those cheap tote bins with a lid
just tape it shut and slap and address on it with printer paper
ive been doing that for a while
dreamy chasm
I'm thinking I could get something big enough for some electronics and a weeks worth of clothes
and nothing else
potent arrow
I'm thinking I could get something big enough for some electronics and a weeks w...
I use this for air travel with a lot of stuff
just put foam in that
that goes under the plane, and for carry on have a tote for pc and a monitor wrapped in towel
dreamy chasm
It's one with the airlines I've experience with
Maybe I could see if I can pay to carry more, ig
umbral moss
In fact, some of the VFX and animation professionals I contacted for this story declined to be interviewed because they simply don’t know much about Macs — they just aren’t widely used in that industry at this point.
apple defenders in shambles
dreamy chasm
they're popular in 2d art and video editing
but i dont think they've released an sku with topend workstation gpus just yet
so im not surprised
umbral moss
there aren't any "top end" workstation GPUs because apple silicon doesn't support nvidia or AMD
umbral moss
they've largely ceded the high power workstation market, which is the thrust of the article
dreamy chasm
yes
umbral moss
who is the mac pro for?
turns out, pretty much nobody lmao
the mac studio is the same thing but half the price
dreamy chasm
i dont think anyone's ever defended macs for 3d production
they're great for adobe suite but you won't catch me getting one because of their awful ecosystem
umbral moss
the myth has largely been that apple dominates creative spaces and you Need a Mac to participate
when most production studios use windows machines now because they're way cheaper and easier to maintain
dreamy chasm
i can see it if the studio largely uses the adobe suite
or anything native to their platform
umbral moss
even then, is adobe better on apple silicon than x86, if you factor in the apple tax?
like, is $7000 worth of mac pro better than $7000 worth of x86 hardware for running photoshop and lightroom?
dreamy chasm
some people claim it's more stable, but i'm not one to speak about it since I'm not in that space
And people don't use the mac pro for it, i'm pretty sure
umbral moss
apple's product segmentation is just super weird, the mac pro is a product nobody asked for
the mac mini and mac studio also have a fairly large amount of overlap
dreamy chasm
shrug
potent arrow
like, is $7000 worth of mac pro better than $7000 worth of x86 hardware for runn...
Yes, I have no idea why but adobe runs that much better lmao
Im considering getting a mini just for it
umbral moss
my girlfriend insists she needs a mac for school
apparently she breaks windows laptops like some kind of reverse midas
dreamy chasm
all i know is that adobe and similar works well on mac
specially compared to whatever you can get at similar cost from x86 portables
umbral moss
the key word is portable
macbooks are like 95% as good as a mac pro and they cost 20% as much lmao
dull garnet
mb air are hawt
potent arrow
The mini is perfect for most creatives
dreamy chasm
i never tried defending it
lmao
im just saying the m1 macs are good for a lot of creative workflows
potent arrow
AE behaves perfectly on macos
dreamy chasm
just not 3d specific ones
potent arrow
On windows it's a thermo nuclear bonb
umbral moss
I'm saying that apple has largely undercut its stationary hardware platforms since the macbook is basically everything you'd want from apple hardware
why would you buy anything but a macbook air/pro
dull garnet
io
umbral moss
for what, though?
doesn't the MBA/MBP support a dock that lets you put all your junk on external storage?
dull garnet
well, yeah
umbral moss
the only expansion card you'd really want is a GPU, which is a non-starter for apple silicon
1440/360 monitor made by asus
dreamy chasm
it's probably a panel made by one of the 4 manufacturers out there that every other company repurposes
umbral moss
AUO, as usual
it's mostly that asus is the first one to get a monitor out with the new ultrafast IPS
so you're paying the asus tax for no real reason other than the ugly asus XXXTREME GAMEN swoop on the back
umbral moss
I'm surprised acer doesn't have one yet, I heard they had a premium agreement with AUO to get first pick of panels
dreamy chasm
im pretty sure other manufacturers have better strobing implementations
umbral moss
TFTcentral reviewed the asus lmnopqrx last week, it's apparently really fuckin fast but it has a permanent red shift and an uncorrectable blue color deficiency
dreamy chasm
umbral moss
could have just been their review sample
the input lag is wild, it's about 1.1ms all-in
dreamy chasm
Don't manufacturers send cherry picked samples, generally
umbral moss
you'd think
but tftcentral has shit on monitors that are generally good before
and I know panel lottery is really prevalent for cutting edge IPS
I remember reading user reviews for the XB270 and seeing wild variations in contrast ratio and panel uniformity
umbral moss
could even just be a defect in how they calibrated the thing out of the factory
since it comes preset with an sRGB mode but the software is too aggressive on the blue channel
dreamy chasm
I've
honestly never had good experiences with factory srgb modes
they almost never work
umbral moss
most color spaces are doomed because LCDs still can't manage pure enough colors to get proper coverage
potent arrow
honestly never had good experiences with factory srgb modes
Yeah I have mine sent out
dreamy chasm
I'll just get a proart if I ever start worrying about color accuracy
It's not perfect but, still
wraith agate
So... a bit of question
I have 2 CPU cooler pins which is good because I'll need that, but can I repurpose the AIO pump header if I use only fans?
dreamy chasm
iirc, they run at full speed if you shove a fan connector into an aio header
4x4 chassis fan headers should be plenty for case fans, anyway
specially if you're planning on getting anything that can be daisy chained
Since you can run 3 or so fans in a chain before you start running out of current for subsequent ones
wraith agate
well I wanna use PWM fans
dreamy chasm
same story.
wraith agate
oh I can daisy chain those too?
dreamy chasm
if they have the appropriate connectors for it, yeah
wraith agate
ah cool
wraith agate
though, I want this NZXT H7 case, supports 3 front 140mm and one 140mm rear fan along with 2 top 140mm
dreamy chasm
near-noctua performance at a low price
wraith agate
nice
dreamy chasm
p14's are their 140mm model
dull garnet
you need the pst model
wraith agate
this one?
dull garnet
yeah
wraith agate
oh okay
dull garnet
well, that's the F
wraith agate
WELL
dreamy chasm
They should be fine for case fans, unless there are restrictive filters in the way
wraith agate
this is here but I doubt I can buy this
if no price listed, doesn't deliver to me
usually
wraith agate
They should be fine for case fans, unless there are restrictive filters in the w...
afaict it's only a front mesh?
dreamy chasm
Where do you live again
dreamy chasm
p14 pst isn't available on their main site, rip
wraith agate
apparently I can buy this 5 pack
wraith agate
wraith agate
as long as that add to basket button is there, I'm good
wraith agate
that's good because my current fans on my Sharkoon case... well besides being 120mm
the top one died last year
GRANTED, I've been using it since 2018
but that's still only 4 years compared to my very first build that lasted 10 years without issues
dreamy chasm
yeaah
dreamy chasm
i thought you had a budget
wraith agate
okay well I'm running a 4090 and an i7-13700k
wraith agate
I'm a bit concerned though, not over anything just the fact this will be the first time I'm gonna use a modular PSU
wraith agate
yeah I know
dreamy chasm
Then after you're done, shove the cables in the box for safekeeping somewhere
wraith agate
wraith agate
it should improve the aesthetic of my build tbh to not have a ton of cables, to go nowhere and just be there
dull garnet
I'm thinking rmx next time I upgrade
dreamy chasm
You can kinda still do that with non modular power supplies but... the power supply shroud will get a bit stuffy
wraith agate
well not like I care about aesthetic much, I wanted no glass side panel but NZXT only has that
plus I will use no RGB
dreamy chasm
Might want to consider this if you want native 12VHPWR support https://www.amazon.com/FSP-Modular-Warranty-HG2-1000-Gen5/dp/B0BTTW2344/ref=sr_1_6?crid=2AIR5SFM0U6A&keywords=pcie+5+1000w&qid=1687895920&sprefix=pcie+5+100%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-6
There might be a few other units worth considering, I'll check later
wraith agate
that seems a tad more expensive than the corsair one
dreamy chasm
It's 10 more
But it has native pcie 5 support and still has the same warranty
That said, they should still be about the same as far as performance goes, I think?
ayo, wtf is this
does every case have room for this shit
crazy
@dull garnet
wraith agate
I'd have love that layout when I built my last PC in 2018
dreamy chasm
Seems like you'd need a beefy case to even have the room to use this
dull garnet
That's cool af
dreamy chasm
It's neat, just niche
wraith agate
also
wraith agate
is PCIe 5 support necessary for a PSU?
dreamy chasm
Nope!
wraith agate
what is it good for though?
dreamy chasm
It just means you can have VHPWR cables that plug directly into the PSU
iirc
Instead of needing those adapters
dull garnet
This just looks messy lol
dreamy chasm
but yeah uh, definitely consider a pcie 5 psu if you don't want to have to use an adapter like that
dull garnet
And the 4090 one is clown like
dreamy chasm
it's just
dull garnet
It wants like 4x 8 pin? iirc
dull garnet
This is only two luckily so I can get a cable that plugs into my old psu
dreamy chasm
dull garnet
Could have just got a 8 pin 4070 but noo
dreamy chasm
PCIE5 psus just happen to have a direct connector instead of needing an adapter
dreamy chasm
Could have just got a 8 pin 4070 but noo
Get fucked, I guess
hard drift
Could have just got a 8 pin 4070 but noo
In theory the 12 pin standard is better
hard drift
I wanted the founders and it came in stock a few days after i got my 4090
dreamy chasm
the 12vhp connector is awfully designed
sly elk
I have one and it works great 😄
hard drift
Well this card is like 220w max
The 12 pin should still be better if they would do it right 😭
sly elk
the included cables suck though >>
dull garnet
Plus I undervolted to 170w basically