technology-discussion

[sly elk]

although i guess you'd have to find the one that doesn't melt with high temps

[odd sand]

It's actually kinda silly these days bc they're still basically this: https://tpucdn.com/gpu-specs/images/c/1303-front.small.jpg

[sly elk]

YEP

[odd sand]

...Except with like 360mm long and 30mm wide heatsink on them now

[sly elk]

i mean, if you go a couple years up where there's BGA memory instead

it's funny because for the 10/20 they started lengthening the PCB

and then the 30/40 brought back the normal length PCB

it's just underneath a giant plastic monstrosity

and there might be a cool card or two, but let's face it.. these things are fugly

idk maybe i exaggerate some

but the 40 series really started to put me off with bad design lol

[odd sand]

Nvidia is pinching them on margins so hard these days, they can't afford really cool looks

[sly elk]

FAIR

good point

[odd sand]

EVGA said that what? GPUs were 90% of their revenue but 3% of their profit?

[sly elk]

also to be fair, the old ones were rarely made to look good lol

[odd sand]

Will be interesting to see what their revenue and profits are next year after being out of the GPU market

[sly elk]

like one o the more collectible, voodoo 5 5500

[odd sand]

Bc the only other thing ppl bought regularly from them were PSUs. I know they've made motherboards for like 10 years now, but I've never known a single person to own one. And also now supposedly keyboards or something?

Look at how much bare silicon is on that compared to today's cards heh

[sly elk]

iirc some of the keyboards are the fake mechanical kind

the evga/superflower PSUs had a fantastic reputation but I'm kinda meh on my experience with them

I would buy an evga board but I get the impression they don't really support them, as odd as that seems

hmm I take back what I said, they have released a few firmware updates for their z790 and a bunch for the x570 board

i also like their 4 digit diagnostic display 😄

who needs 2 when you can have 4 :]

[odd sand]

Even having 2 these days is suddenly rare. They've all gone to cheaping out with the 4 little led dots instead

[sly elk]

ye I hate that

[odd sand]

Cheaping out on the leds while doubling the MSRP of the boards in 3 years

[sly elk]

meh

it is true though, i bought my maximus xi hero in 2018 for $272

and it had those

the maximus z790 hero costs $599 lol, more than double for the same damn model

i bought my x670e carbon for $439, and it has the 2-digit display too 🙂

asus is kind of a ripoff now >>

[dreamy chasm]

Asrock is reportedly going to release a bunch of boards with higher end components without all the extra bloat soon

thank fuck

I remember the days when you paid 120 bucks for a z97 board and called it a high end board

[void dove]

i literally have one of these sitting in the cupboard behind me, its a relic, and i will never throw it away!

retro PC when? one day maybe

[umbral moss]

evga motherboards are dogwater

they bought abit when abit was going under, but while abit was at/near the top of the industry at the time they've never really improved on it while their competitors have made massive quality and feature improvements

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1669331210806480896

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

Intel is officially killing off the ‘i’ in Core i9. So a Core i9 will be named the Intel Core Ultra 9 processor 1090K 🤔 https://t.co/ghpNYw5iix

Twitter · Jun 15, 2023, 1:09 PM

[lost python]

[glass wraith]

Getting an error 2002 when I try to log in it's been a good 45 mins and still getting it

[modest moss]

Check the pins

[odd sand]

I like how they redo the naming scheme and it's as wordy or moreso than before

[void dove]

MaRkEtInG

some moron needs to keep their job

lets take the well known naming scheme, which had no real issues

and make it more generic with every other PC parts product

so less knowledgeable purchasers, have no idea what they are buying

[lost python]

it sounds so stupid

[glass wraith]

I did and just kept hammering away at the login and now I am in. Does this 2002 error happen often? I've been getting it since yesterday.

[modest moss]

it's not usually like this, no

[glass wraith]

Good to know xD

[rose storm]

Hi everyone, quick update for those in the loop about the connection issues. I've been running traces and pings since last night, and there appears to be a faulty node somewhere in the routing between the East Coast and SE's datacenter. As of right now there is no fix that can be done on the player side to resolve the issue. So don't worry about resetting routers, modems, or any other networking equipment!

I've also been collecting logs and data from other users having the same problem, and I found that once the routing goes past a node in NYC, the next hop is to an NTT node (ae-17.a02.nycmny17.us.bb.gin.ntt.net 129.250.8.229). This node is geolocated is Hoboken, NJ and is most likely the point of failure for East Coast.

I'll be continuing to investigate throughout the day as time allows and update the OF post with more info

[real edge]

you can use a vpn like mudfish to dodge faulty nodes

[rose storm]

Correct, if a user happens to have a VPN client readily available. But as a playerbase we shouldn't have to rely on such things when the potentially faulty node is contracted by SE in the first place

[real edge]

true, but chances are SE will not listen, so outside of making them know somehow we can only use VPNs to dodge the node to have a good experience

[hard drift]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/gaming-mouse/ch-931a011-na/darkstar-wireless-rgb-mmo-gaming-mouse-ch-931a011-na corsair came out with a new mmo mouse looks nice

[lone zealot]

It’s not that SE will not listen, but that SE cannot do anything about it. Any node issues outside of the datacenter will need to be addressed by NTT or whichever provider that runs the node. If it’s AT&T, then it’s been an ongoing issue for about a month.

[rose storm]

I just spent a good 15 minutes on the phone with their support and we actually got somewhere. I gave him all the information I've been dumping into the threads, even down to the location of the nodes and the IP addresses. They're going to forward it to the team that's been investigating and we should see a Lodestone post with the next day regarding it.

I had to do some convincing that this wasn't an ISP-specific issue and that the possible node in question is owned by NTT (What a fucking surprise) and not Optimum. Fingers crossed we'll be getting somewhere soon

[modest moss]

with ATT there was literally 3 way finger pointing and blame avoidance so don't hold your breath

[harsh mulch]

what is an elevated command prompt? I'm getting 2002 and I'm east coast so may this will fix

[rose storm]

Start Menu > type 'cmd' > right-click Command Prompt and choose "Run as Administrator"

[harsh mulch]

where do i paste the text? to the right or below?

[rose storm]

You can just type it in, don't need to paste it. Run each command one at a time

[harsh mulch]

"ipconfig /flushdns
netsh winsock reset"
so is that considered 2 commands?

[autumn hemlock]

It worked last night for me but today doing that still resulted in 2002 errors

[autumn hemlock]

Yes, 2 commands

Tired using the Google and Cloudsflare DNS servers as well as per advice from a friend and it also was a no go. Real bummer

[harsh mulch]

kk ty i'll try resetting then and see if it helps

[rose storm]

With the new information I've been getting, troubleshooting on the client-side is going to be very limited. You don't need to go crazy resetting your modem or routers, just run those couple commands and try again. Eventually you'll get in

[harsh mulch]

so is it just temporary east coast thing?

[rose storm]

It's not temporary, it's still ongoing. Eventually it'll be resolved

[harsh mulch]

kk, that's good to know it's not my fault

[autumn hemlock]

def not xD

[harsh mulch]

boo i tried and it didn't fix. Hopefully the servers will just be fixed later on

[autumn hemlock]

I gave it a few more tries and made it to char select but then faced the 10105 error again. I was thinking of pausing my sub and damn this is one indicator that maybe I should

[wraith agate]

pfft boys so easy, just get an iphone

[cedar prairie]

doing gods work bro tysm

[rose storm]

God has nothing to do with this. If he did, it would be fixed LOL

[glossy ravine]

I know my internet wasn't the best, but I'd be lagging really badly when playing XIV in spikes.

Is it because of that node?

Like. Game froze for a solid 5-7 seconds before catching up really really fast.

[spring raven]

Yes, that sounds like exactly the sort of behavior you'd see with this sort of connection issue

There was a node near me that was offline for almost a week recently that had me down to a couple hundred kb/s download speeds and that was exactly what I saw

[dreamy chasm]

[obtuse field]

Has the pinned recommendation been still working for people? I’ve tried a few times with no luck

[modest moss]

unfortunately doesn't work for everyone

a vpn might help, but again no guarantees

[obtuse field]

Got it, thank you!

[dreamy chasm]

Exitlag has a 3 day trial period if you want to test one

iirc, windscribe also has a 10gb free data cap if you've already used the former

[sly elk]

man we live in a wild time

imagine in 2003 saying on IRC "I do Cyber for a living"

or "I am a cyber expert" or whatever

when the hell did they knock 'security' off the term

back in those days "cyber" usually referred to something far raunchier lol

[peak hare]

I tried the pinned for the East Coast issue and got into the login screen but still couldn't enter with my character, then when I tried again it failed at data center

I think I'll just not play for a bit

[dreamy chasm]

You can try a free vpn

I bought the monitor btw @sly elk

Here's to hoping the panel implementation on these are good

[sly elk]

cool, good luck!

[dreamy chasm]

[warm spindle]

okay now i'm getting weird shit on the west coast

[rose storm]

Please refer to the pinned post in #questions-and-help to go to the official forums post and put your information there. It won't get fixed unless SE sees how widespread it has become. I've been trying to investigate and do as much as I can on my own, but I've reached the end of my usefulness with regards to pinpointing the issue. Now it's up to SE and their network vendors to fix the problem

[dreamy chasm]

Thank you for putting in the work.

[next juniper]

Where's the SE thread?

[dreamy chasm]

pins

of that channel

[modern iris]

security wagged their finger at me again for the script i wrote yesterday to change that windows login on 300 computers

but in hindsight i'd say they should have had a better security policy to begin with

the guy was royally confused as to how i was able to just Enter-PSSession on non-server computers

I believe I am the perfect candidate for pentesting after that little endeavor

[rose storm]

I'll be getting in touch with support again tomorrow and try to update everyone with any new information. I'm fucking shot from today with work, investigating this shit, and savage. 'night y'all

[wraith agate]

They definitely need better security

[odd sand]

lmao we fscking told you but also yes: your security dept is failing at their job if that's how things have been running as it is

[dreamy chasm]

RAM in blister packaging is a crime

is this actually that much cheaper than a small cardboard box

[potent arrow]

I prefer it lol

And yes

[dreamy chasm]

[rose storm]

East Coast problem looks to be fixed. Ping and tracert come back with full response, and I was able to log in with no issues

Routing is different, though. Going through Level3 nodes instead of the previous twelve99 nodes. Also less hops

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1669697448892153862

Tom Warren (@tomwarren)

the CMA has approved Amazon’s $1.7 billion acquisition of iRobot. The CMA claims robot vacuum cleaners aren’t important to smart homes and the market isn’t expected to grow significantly in the UK. Analysts believe the market is actually going to expand massively worldwide 🤔

Twitter · Jun 16, 2023, 1:24 PM

[sharp star]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTA3Ls-WAcw

[kindred brook]

CORSAIR Vengeance DDR5 RAM 96GB (2x48GB) 6400MHz CL32 Intel XMP iCUE Compatible Computer Memory - Black (CMK96GX5M2B6400C32) https://a.co/d/isFMt7m

Lmfao

[odd sand]

Looks like retail packaging. The stuff I've bought from Newegg never has to be torn open like a wild animal. Also PNY

[wraith agate]

Why the odd amount of GBs?

[cerulean talon]

48's are getting more common now.

Probally 12 4gb chips.

Not sure I like it personally, but

Oh hey, discord changed the inline emoji interface, now it takes up my entire text display area. Thanks discord!

[wraith agate]

I'm gonna stick to my 2×32GB, I intend to upgrade down the line to 128GB anyway

[cerulean talon]

I would.

But I'm a bitter old sysadmin who likes things in powers of 2.

[wraith agate]

Maybe one day we will be out matched by the people with 48s

[cerulean talon]

Nah

The issue is that larger sticks are slower.

So the more ram you've got, the less overall performance until you need more ram than you physically have.

It's why mass OC'ers use 4's and 8's in 2023.

[modest moss]

the only 48 acceptable in memory is 2048

[dreamy nacelle]

Not really tech related but fuck paypal

[modest moss]

it's tech related enough

fuck paypal

[dreamy nacelle]

They made up a fake credit card chargeback that got my normal discord account disabled

[dull garnet]

Wat

[dreamy nacelle]

They said I disputed my nitro sub payment when I didn't, my bank confirmed I didn't, and I didn't get any email or message saying I did anything like that

[sly elk]

huh

oh, I was thinking of boston robotics

i'm surprised the UK has to approve it

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-queen-eye-roll-anime-gif-19940900

[cerulean talon]

I accept this problem and fix it with WAY TOO MANY THREADS. Nomnom threads.

[odd sand]

Another one to add to the "Ohhh, Paypal..." pile of why I don't use it for anything unless absolutely necessary.

[dreamy nacelle]

Taking discord off it, I used it to preorder the loporrit figure and xvi if they charge that back I'm gonna explode

[sly elk]

yep lol

I need to delete my paypal lol

[odd sand]

I keep it simply bc every once in a blue moon I need to pay for something and there are no other options

Or like my friend pays me for babysitting thru it bc neither of us have venmo etc

Is it Venmo or Zelle that banks use to transfer money themselves?

I think it's Zelle, but unfortunately most ppl have venmo not zelle so

[sly elk]

zelle

[dreamy nacelle]

Ye they use zelle

[dull garnet]

https://www.lttstore.com/products/noctua-screwdriver 🤡

[dreamy chasm]

They were the cheapest that shipped to me

[sly elk]

https://tenor.com/view/aqua-konosuba-vomit-gif-8798310

[sly elk]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/06/windows-11-ditches-several-power-user-file-explorer-options-in-newest-preview/

Microsoft says all of the settings will continue to exist but that they'll only be accessible via registry keys. In a default Windows install, some of these options are on-by-default and others are off-by-default; Microsoft didn't say any of these defaults would be changing.

https://tenor.com/view/anime-angry-mad-evil-gif-14682313

at that point, MacOS will allow more customization of the file browser UI than windows does... what a wild time we live in.

[dreamy chasm]

What the fuck

[odd sand]

Ahh, that's the final style they went with huh? I know on the WAN show a few weeks ago they had a poll between 3 versions.

[dreamy chasm]

I actually like the noctua colorway.

But it only really works with black as a dominant colour in any build

[dull garnet]

My build colourway is boring

cannot stomach noctua pricing

[modest moss]

looks lovely and functional

[dull garnet]

i need a 2x pciethingyforevga to 12vhpwr cable

cablemod seems to only do 3 or 4x pciethingy to 12vhpwr cables

[odd sand]

https://tenor.com/view/darkness-no-parents-batman-dark-metal-gif-16179621

[odd sand]

Technically speaking, you could just leave 1 of the 3 unplugged and be fine. I don't think evga has a special connector, it's just the nvidia newer connector right?

[dull garnet]

possibly, depends how it is wired

the cables on this PSU split into an 8 pin and a 6 pin and plugging those into the adapter wasn't sufficient

[odd sand]

Yeah, it would probably have to be full 8pins into both or it wouldn't detect the 2nd one as being connected I bet.

[dreamy chasm]

to be fair

I think I've heard stories of their fans lasting pretty much forever

You can definitely get the same performance for a lot less nowadays, though

[sly elk]

If I were doing a noctua build I’d use chromax black fans

With blue accents probably

Ya know, a clean build is still nice as heck to look at

Modern builds look good almost always lol as long as your wiring is neat

[potent arrow]

U know I still use noctuas because I have them in stock

[sly elk]

We’re not taking about the 486 days where cases were awful layouts

[potent arrow]

Imagine having glass side panels

[sly elk]

Yeah not on that

Those SFF builds rapidly approach 486 territory lol

They look good with the cover on though

[potent arrow]

Sff cases are really well layed out these days

Like REALLY well layed out

https://youtu.be/2sipLWCl948

My next build will be in this

[dull garnet]

I've said it repeatedly but these AC fans are solid and cost £5 a piece

[dreamy chasm]

I just get arctic p12s

[dull garnet]

yeah I would now... I have a P12 on the hsf and the rest are F12/F14

[modest moss]

I still have a few F12 untouched, quality products

[dreamy chasm]

also, DUCKS

Saw this grip tape on sale a little while ago

knew i had to have it

[sly elk]

usually i think grip tape looks gross, but that tape looks cute!

[dreamy chasm]

It'll probably get a bit dusty in a few months but

I'll enjoy it while it's mint

[dreamy chasm]

oh my god @sly elk

[spring raven]

Oh my God it's real

[sly elk]

hahahahah

[muted spoke]

that's fantastic. hope other subreddits do the same

[modest moss]

I suggested r/ffxiv reopen but every post and comment gets run through uwubot

[sly elk]

i like the idea

the problem is it'll attract people to come back and participate in the chaos

[inland mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/john-oliver-cool-sarcasm-sarcastic-gif-8465330

[wraith agate]

Lmao

I now want John Oliver to report on this

[sly elk]

20 years of tech advancements, yay!

to be fair the actual 'computer' part of that imac was pretty small

pretty sure the power supply to the left (attached, but it's actually a separate part) was also the power supply for the CRT

[dreamy chasm]

The second I double my ram capacity, windows starts using even more of it

What the fuck

[paper tusk]

windows likes to use it to cache things to avoid use of swap file

with xiv open (in small hunt train) it should lopok like this (42%)

[dull garnet]

nooo how dare windows use my memory

[lone zealot]

Yeah , Windows loves to use as much as it can

Not a fan of how ad infested it’ is too

[dull garnet]

oh, found the perfect cable for my 4070 FE + old PSU https://eustore.cablemod.com/product/cablemod-basics-e-series-12vhpwr-90-degree-pci-e-cable-for-evga-g-g-p-p-t/

30 euros 😭

20 without the 90 degree connector, 18 euros shipping to UK oof

[dreamy chasm]

I'm just surprised it eats up as much as it does

man

i love how shit of a spec VHPWR is

[dull garnet]

it is an annoying thing to remember

12vhpwr

[dreamy chasm]

Unseat the cable a tiny bit and you've got a potential housefire on your hands!

Doesn't help that the adapters that every 40xx card came with all don't like being bent in ways a PCI-E cable would've been fine with

[sly elk]

meh I remember back when we used oldschool 4-pin molex and sometimes the pin would pop out of the connector lol

or you had to mate them at an angle to get the pins and sockets to line up

[dull garnet]

yeah molex was shit

[sly elk]

idk what's worse.. those or the sata power connectors

[dull garnet]

the oem adapter isn't a good design, a 90 degree one would be nice

[sly elk]

but the thing that makes me laugh the most about sata is how the fat connector is the power one

[dull garnet]

i had the sata power connector break on earlier designs of the connector

[sharp star]

I have a SATA power connector just for a fan hub on my Torrent

[dull garnet]

sovl

[real edge]

has anyone made data as to which 4090 models burnt out the most?

[sly elk]

well, evga doesn't make 40 series gpus...

my guess is gigabyte

because of the whole thing about them cracking

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-gpu-design-details-emerge-about-pcb-cracking

The preliminary cases appear to be limited to the GeForce RTX 30 series (Ampere); however, there are claims that the issue also extends to the latest GeForce RTX 40 series

idk what this is but

https://itigic.com/which-graphics-cards-has-highest-reliability/

in that case, pny and msi are the most reliableand someone called kf2

in theory that doesn't surprise me because pny makes quadro cards

and msi makes dell cards

[real edge]

that is from 2020 sadly

[sly elk]

true dat

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/retailer-shares-failure-rates-for-gpus-motherboards-ssds-more

[sharp star]

gigglebutt

[sly elk]

yea the numbers are too small to be reliable here

unless someone like cyberpowerpc did it though, it'd be hard to get a good survey

because big companies only usually have 1, maaaybe 2 suppliers

[sharp star]

I propped up my old 3080 with an anti-sag bracket

now it's my sister's Y60

[sly elk]

hehe

my case has a bracket to hold the gpu but i somehow don't have a level so I've never proven it's actually level

i just eyeball it 😄

my old case that I have my 6650xt in doesn't, but it's a small card, so I don't think it sags enough to really notice anyway

[sharp star]

I don't think vertically mounted GPUs would be affected but it's nice to keep an eye on this in case it does

[sly elk]

the only thing I know for sure

is that back in the old days, evga RMAs were like,

you couldn't mention evga without someone piping up about how awesome their customer service was when their evga part blew up

but i hope/bet most people's cards are fiiiine

[dreamy chasm]

I wonder how many of these issues were cards being shipped inside the slot

https://hothardware.com/news/gpu-mb-failure-rates-digitec-galaxus There's this

[potent arrow]

messing with blender reminds me why I picked this specific system combo lol

[late basalt]

Finally got my limited space setup done

Now I just need to get the other parts I need to replace the control board on the engraver with one that allows endstops and z-level focus

[cerulean talon]

Niiiice.

[late basalt]

Only a 500mw head on it though

Want something beefier to be able to cut the thin leather I use for wallets and key straps in 1-2 passes

[lone zealot]

ouch, Brexit has really put the hurt on people

[late basalt]

And that means having to wire up a split power supply for the control boards and the head

[cerulean talon]

I need to finish my co2 jobbie.

I've got a replacement 20w tube, but I don't have anywhere to vent it :/

[late basalt]

Got a window nearby?

Could do a window fan type thing

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/c17cf3a6-b042-4b56-8fdd-79a39e7985c1.044a1b66f4cb9dcd4f3695275099ba5b.jpeg

🤔

Could probably even use just that, rig a connector and have the fan add a little pull

Once I get my own place I’ll definitely look into a co2 one

[cerulean talon]

It's 100f outside during the summer.

100% not worth it.

It belongs in the garage, and some day will move there, or I'll move somewhre else eventually

[next juniper]

So I posted a thing in tech support if anyone's willing to help out?

(Trying to get a Switch Pro Controller working on XIV for the hell of it, having stick issues)

[late basalt]

🤔 any way to get to the dryer vent piping?

[cerulean talon]

No, the dryer is upstairs and the cutter's down here.

[late basalt]

Ah

Only other thing I could see as an option is a filter stack, but even then, it’s not going to catch everything you don’t want to be breathing

[cerulean talon]

Yeah.

[late basalt]

Renting or own?

[sly elk]

"Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?"

random person in the comments: " I think this comes down to Apple's envisaged window management paradigm being centered around full-screen windows."

WHAT?!

(I always thought the window snapping function was annoying af and i usually disable it.. I might be the only person who feels that way)

[wraith agate]

This waiting game is getting ridiculous

I have to wait to get money. I have to wait to purchase components, I have to wait for those components to arrive. And now I have to wait for my new desk too to arrive!

Where's the instant gratification of doing little for short time? I guess I'm gonna blow my PC money on gachas /j

[lost python]

and then you are like "well i guess i could check a local store for components, since they always cry about online-shops stealing their business" and then you go there and see a very limited selection of absolutely overpriced shit

like why the fuck would i "support a local store" if they sell a psu for 180€ which i can get online for just 120

[astral ridge]

It’s super annoying

[wraith agate]

mood

[wraith agate]

suddenly I hate opera gx

[glossy ravine]

Seeing the setup for the ROG Ally makes me glad I chose the deck over that.

Steam OS just. Feels so much easier/nicer to use.

[dull garnet]

opera has always been the worst

no quirky social media account will change that

[dreamy chasm]

I need window snapping for comparing data or info on different browser tabs

[golden stream]

The short end of Ally is Windows doesn't really compatible with handheld devices just yet and Asus peepo be like "ok steam deck iz coolio we'll make one then work on our usual stuff after dat" then they forget to make firmwares working

Freed some storage to make room for standard PC/linux work
Feels good

[modern iris]

im thinking of installing speakers around the apartment that connect to my computer

so I can blast Metallica to each room

[golden stream]

If you have budget, do et

Tho am not sound engineer, will be a bit tricky but doable tho

[modern iris]

same 😔 im just playing with the idea for now

[golden stream]

If me, I'd like all of my devices/PCs/PC-esque can blast music

[sly walrus]

charge your damn deck

[golden stream]

Chargin lmao
Also downloading some moar games

If for non gaming tasks, the deck holds quite ok battery life

If not vid editing that it

[glossy ravine]

"Mom, I want a steam deck"

"We have a steam deck at home"

Steam deck at home:

[golden stream]

Isn't steam deck with windows still kinda fine?

Like the reason for other handhelds like Aya be like wat fully planned comp-windows interaction and processing power tho

[glossy ravine]

Yeah, but the Deck wasn't really made with windows in mind

[golden stream]

Hmmm make sense, need m+k for windows navving

[glossy ravine]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[golden stream]

Also holy s my SD card is almost full

500gb only bc the 1tb has ridiculus prices

[glossy ravine]

The deck definitely still has its pain points with its system, the deck still feels the closest in terms of making the PC a more console like experience.

[late basalt]

ok, dumb question for the EE nerds in here- if i have 4 components all requiring a 12v power source, as long as a given power source has enough total amperage, am i able to use that power source for all 4 of them at the same time?

if it's "yes" that makes my life much simpler for the next 2 weeks

[golden stream]

Imo still pain and still close but then it's linux and madlads are still rolling
Eh ngl for an expected gaming-device-that-happens-to-be-a-PC it has more magic than a-PC-in-form-of-a-handheld

[golden stream]

.............itz complicated
But yes
Kinda
Just maybe not at the same socket ofc
You don't want 4 plugs surrounding a socket just like dat memes

[late basalt]

not that way

[golden stream]

If like wall power source should be fine

[late basalt]

hang on, lemme make a dookie painting to illustrate what i mean

yes i used windows snipping tool to avoid having to save this abomination to my computer

think like laptop power supply but split to 4 different devices

[golden stream]

The acc I assume is the components?

[late basalt]

yeh

basically i'm debating changing out the control board on my cheapo chinese laser engraver

[golden stream]

I mean, innit the standard anyway....??

Ohhhh I see

Hmmmm need a whatzitcalled regulator...??

[late basalt]

so i'd need to power the control board, the stepper motors (cnc board), the laser head itself, and probably a few fans

everything can run off or needs 12v power source

[golden stream]

Ah

If you have a voltage stabilizer brick, would recommend

[late basalt]

so if i can use a single power source with a max amp rating greater than the amount i need, it'd simplify things a LOT

yea, afaik it's all 12vDC

so no messing with AC shenanigans

the only wrench is the fact i want to also upgrade the head it currently has, so i know i'm already going to be needing a minimum of 12V3A just for that

[cerulean talon]

... Just ge a 12v20a supply?

They're super common xD

[late basalt]

i can and probably will, but it does lead back around to the dumb question that started this

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cerulean talon]

Oh that.

Yes, that's fine.

As long as the supply doesn't drag down, a single 12v > amps is fine.

I've got some 200A 12a supplies behind me. 😄

[late basalt]

i mean, i'm aware i know enough to be dangerous and stupid, which why i'd rather ask the dumb questions and get the same answer i assumed

instead of assume i was right, and blow something up

[cerulean talon]

Nah, that's safe.

NGL, if you want some cheap 12v supplies, find an ATX PSU.

And short green to black, then steal the 12v rails off it.

[late basalt]

have 2 in the bottom of my filing cabinet

[cerulean talon]

Done.

ezclap.

[late basalt]

not sure if they still have the rail stickers on the side though

that fuckin old

[cerulean talon]

Most of the power will be in 12v anyway.

xS

*xD How much power you need?

[late basalt]

3A for the head, probably no more than 5A combined for the control board and motors

no idea for the fans though

[cerulean talon]

Any PSU should be able to deliver that, that's less than 80w.

[late basalt]

i'd be rigging up old cpu cooling fans

[cerulean talon]

Even a cheap ATX PSU is 400-500w.

[late basalt]

so maybe half an amp at most?

[cerulean talon]

And the bulk of that is on 12v.

[late basalt]

~10A i'd call it?

[cerulean talon]

So 120w.

[cerulean talon]

w = v * a

[late basalt]

room smells like overcooked bacon now, but w/e

[cerulean talon]

So yeah, just get a cheap PSU used and short green to black. 😛

[late basalt]

plus side, i know the two psu in my cabinet are so old that they have the 4pin molex connectors on em

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, I've used PSU's as benchtop supplies before, they're super nice for ir.

[late basalt]

first one i snagged out

[cerulean talon]

19A, you're good.

[late basalt]

just need to figure out which one's the +12V

unless that's one pair of the molex pins

[cerulean talon]

If there's an 8 pin yellow/black, it's yellow and black.

[late basalt]

older than that, actually

four pin yellow/black

[cerulean talon]

Oh still yellow.

Red is 5vdc

[late basalt]

basically i'd be looking for the cpu plug then?

rather than the molex?

[cerulean talon]

Nah, those are rated for like 100-150w, so you should be fine useing the 4 pin, yellow wire.

[late basalt]

all the molex on this one are y/b/b/r red though

[cerulean talon]

You want Y/B

[late basalt]

while the one that i'm sure was the cpu power is y/y/b/b

[cerulean talon]

it is, but that's just a handy bit as it uses 2x12v, 2x g.

[late basalt]

one pair the -12v? or both +12v?

[cerulean talon]

B is ground, y is +12

There's a -5v rail, but not a -12 IIRC.

[late basalt]

there is on this one, actually

[cerulean talon]

That's on the 20 pin usually tho.

[late basalt]

only at 0.8A

[cerulean talon]

Ah.

[late basalt]

so probably motherboard

[cerulean talon]

Yeah.

Most of the weird voltages are on the 20 pin conn.

[late basalt]

and when you say green to black, is that any black on the 20 pin?

[cerulean talon]

Ye.

It should turn on and start spinning it's fan.

[late basalt]

🤔 does it always need to stay shorted?

be a nice convenient way to wire up an e-stop if it does

[cerulean talon]

For a permanent solution, I /highly/ suggest an adapter, they're usually 5-10$ on amazon, or 3d print something.

IIRC, yes, but I'm a tad sleepy, so look it up to cross-check me.

Apparently, yes though.

Green is just held-low (Grounded) to tell the PSU to turn on.

Tbh, that's... a neat e-stop idea to have to hold it high via an &.

[late basalt]

a what?

[cerulean talon]

And gate.

My brain was working out how that'd work, it's been a long day, and it went "Ooooh, magnetic latch"

Which would need to be held closed /originally/ to boot the stupid thing so it wanted an and gate.

[late basalt]

ah

🤔 i wonder if i could figure out what the vref or w/e it uses to determine that it's high

ideas are knocking around, but i think it'd just be easier to wire it in after the PSU and before all the components

less ways to go horribly wrong

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, now I kinda want to build a dedicated adapter for that.

The only concern would be most e-stops need to leave fans running

But if you don't, then yeah, just have something break the conn.

[late basalt]

but if i can make the salvaged PSU work, it'll save me 30-60 on one from amazon

🤔 yea, it shouldnt be that hard to have the fans have their own switch and keep them before the e-stop

though dedicated fans like on the laser head source their power from the control board on the head itself

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, you've got some options.

But yeah, in crypto mining, we use old HP PSU's with 200A of 12v to power miners. 😄

With dedicated breakout boards.

[late basalt]

i just need to make sure the psu i use is the one that ISNT the one with a seized up fan

[cerulean talon]

The fans are cheap. 😄

[late basalt]

it's been unplugged for years, but i'm not messing around with something that has mains level caps at this point tbh

(gotta wait until i pay for healthcare through work first)

[cerulean talon]

Just short the DC out. :p

But yeah, I getchu.

[late basalt]

oh wow

i just looked at the back of that psu

doesnt even have a switch

it's probably so old that it relies on that pin being kept low to stay on

[cerulean talon]

ATX standard says yes.

[late basalt]

so if it doesnt have a seized fan, this one might actually be perfect

[cerulean talon]

It must be kept low

I've done my good deed for the week.

😄

I sorted my spice cabinet this morning, and now I've helped reuse an old PSU.

Today is a good day.

[late basalt]

one last question though, would you recommend just completely enclosing the engraver with plywood (and door, obviously), especially after i upgrade the head, or is it worth the expense of getting the appropriate glass/acrylic to make a viewport?

[cerulean talon]

Tbh, cover it with a thin veneer of steel if you're worried.

[late basalt]

more worried about the laser bouncing just wrong and finding an eyeball

[cerulean talon]

My 20w CO2 has 2mm steel sheathing.

Any opening should yes, be rated for the nm you're working with.

But general casing, slap a bit of steel on there.

Diode lasers aren't gonna hold that focal point for long though, so you should be mostly fine.

[late basalt]

true, but i do plan on upping to a 5-5.5w head though

and that one's got more damage potential on reflection than the 500mW does

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, you should encase it, and by and large, plywood should work, or like I said, 2mm steel. 😛

When you can afford to upgrade.

The top is what I'd be /most/ concerned with

The sides should be far enough away the laser largely diffuses.

[late basalt]

if anything i'd sheet the bottom in steel

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, top and bottom

[late basalt]

top i'm not as worried about tbh

probably about 14 inches to the top if you count the space between the lense and the bottom floor

[cerulean talon]

Oh, yeah, more than enough room to difuse? Diffuse? Spread out if it's that far.

[late basalt]

Diffuse, fwiw

provided i'm not spending out the ass for it, i'd like to get a laser head that has that glass/acrylic "skirt" under the lense

[cerulean talon]

My braIn wanted "Defuze" which is 100% wrong. :F

[late basalt]

hey now, this isnt EOD

(yet)

[cerulean talon]

Oh right, your'e not doing Co2, you can use acrylics can't you?

co2 just nukes it's way through acrylics, my bad.

[late basalt]

it's just getting the right color without it being stupid expensive

at which point glass of the right color would probably be cheaper

[cerulean talon]

And yeah, that makes more sense now.

[late basalt]

eventually i'd want a co2 machine, but that's waaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the line/years

[cerulean talon]

I can't wait to use mine.

But venting ;.;

[late basalt]

gotta make the chinese knockoff work itself to death to earn it's replacement

is it in the garage now? or not enough space yet?

[cerulean talon]

It's right behind me.

I've got an auctually verified 20w tube and a bunch of new lenses for it.

[late basalt]

i'm trying not to be facetious, but are YOU in the garage right now?

[cerulean talon]

Naaaah.

[late basalt]

so not enough room yet™️ then?

[cerulean talon]

It's like 95f in my garage.

No, there's a car in it that's on my lifts. xD

[late basalt]

so? just get yourself one of those harbor freight tool carts to wheel the laser around

[cerulean talon]

If there was room ;.;

[late basalt]

as is the problem with collecting Fun Stuff ™️

i've got a decent sized propane furnace and crucible that's been in it's box for the last.... 3 years? because i've not had the time to use it and figure out storage for it after i do

it's basically one of those "once i get my own place" things

[cerulean talon]

I've got that, an eletric smelting furnace, the laser cutter, the list goes on.

[late basalt]

honestly i wish i'd get lucky and hit the fucking lottery already

not even the mega millions or w/e

i'd settle for just 150k or w/e

[cerulean talon]

I've been looking at my next piece of property. If I can save up like 200-300k, it's gonna be a thing.

Just requires a very aggressive savings plan.

[late basalt]

literally more than enough to buy a house where i'm currently at right now

or build, tbh

likely way cheaper

[cerulean talon]

I'm thinking prebuilt 600sqft homes on like 30-40 acres sounds good to me.

I don't need much space if I can drop somewhere to do work in.

[late basalt]

i'd settle for 401 tbh

which is the bare minimum for zoning out here

i'd go smaller if i could just so i could finally have my own place

[cerulean talon]

Honestly, I just need to go like 1 hour out of a city, and find something nice there.

Well, 1 hout outside the /suburbs/ of a city.

[late basalt]

like i could probably build a 400sqft wooden box and fit it out with appliances and decor for less than 10k

[cerulean talon]

Hahaha.

I know the feeling tbh.

[late basalt]

and i'd be fine with it

longterm? fuck no

definitely be adding onto that bitch as the years go by

[cerulean talon]

I've got like a half dozen people who want to tiny-home on land if I get a bunch.

And it's looking more and more viable these days.

[late basalt]

check zoning laws though

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, I know.

[late basalt]

out here at least, zoning prohibits ADUs

so only one residence per plot

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, this would likely be a couple hours in the middle of nowhere in unincorporated land.

[late basalt]

you'd still have county zoning to follow though

[cerulean talon]

Oooh, Good point.

Stupid laws, I just want to chill with my homies. ;.;

[late basalt]

but if you had a big enough parcel though, you might be able to get them to let you subdivide the exterior edge into smaller parcels

and basically "rent" or w/e those parcels out to people

[cerulean talon]

Yeah, I'll have to look at that.

Alternatively, I just build one big "house"

[late basalt]

with long-ass hallways separating "condos"?

[cerulean talon]

And put up 600 sqft "sheds" as workspaces. 😛

[late basalt]

[cerulean talon]

"No, no, the couch sleeps 4, want to see?"

[late basalt]

the only downside for me though, is i'd probably be spending ~30k on the parcel out here

unimproved

and it's so far out in the boonies it's septic/well

[cerulean talon]

See, I WISH I could get land that cheap.

That pricing is not a problem for me to consider.

[late basalt]

true

[cerulean talon]

The availability of internet is.

[late basalt]

i bet

be like that one guy that made his own ISP

[cerulean talon]

I'm planning on it.

I've got all the gear for it already xD

[late basalt]

all because ATT wanted to charge like 50k to run internet to his house

[cerulean talon]

I dunno, I'm still working out where I want to live.

[late basalt]

or something fucking stupid like that

[cerulean talon]

Wyoming is my current rhoguht but we'll see.

I really want to be north and cold, but really anything with land I can put solar on really

[late basalt]

i'm down in america's penis

[cerulean talon]

Ah yes, my birthplace.

[late basalt]

but fwiw the area i'm staying with family in also happens to fall into a qualifying area for USDA mortgages

so that's definitely an option as long as it's something affordable

quite a few down payment programs available too, so i wouldnt be entirely on the hook for a year's salary on signing

[cerulean talon]

Nods

I should look for land again soon.

I'm so tired of tiny little suburb lots.

[late basalt]

🤔

huh

apparently the lot literally two down the road has been for sale for the last half a year

[cerulean talon]

Hahah.

[late basalt]

31k though

i just hate the fact that i'd be spending probably another half of that just clearing the lot enough to build on

but, back to hobbies n shit, i'd love to eventually be able to slap down a sheet of leather and come back to perfectly cut pieces with stitching lines that are 100% accurate and ready to dye and assemble

rather than spending 30 minutes cutting out a single set by hand, and have to punch out hundreds or stitching holes by hand

[cerulean talon]

Some day I'll find the perfect lot xD

And yeah, laser cutting heads aren't super expensive tbh.

[late basalt]

nah, i'm looking at maybe 90 for a 5w one

the upgraded heads are the reason i'm looking at switching out the control board anyways

anything over 1W tends to be fixed focus

so i'd want to have z-level control of some sort

[cerulean talon]

nods I'm planning on slapping a smoothieboard into mine at some point.

[late basalt]

and super fine z stepping would work great

[sly elk]

-scrolls up-

[late basalt]

plus it'd let me do rotary engraving too

[sly elk]

I don't really feel like I could afford living in the town I was born in

and if I did move there

hmmm

the 'real locals' hate software engineers

but I don't work for a tech company so maybe it's fine 😄

[cerulean talon]

I'm not sure if I could, my hometown is Orlando. xD

[late basalt]

ok, for shits n giggles i'm going to see how many passes it takes to cut a simple circle out of my goatskin leather

oh, that's hilarious actually, i'm in palm coast/bunnell

[cerulean talon]

I moved out when I was like 1 from my understanding.

[sly elk]

yup

[modern iris]

This is sick. I’m not a fan of the wooden design, but the shape of the chassis is way better than PlayStations current take, imo

https://youtu.be/P4Lshbq27nw

PlayStation could have gone with a full mate white rim, and brush aluminum (fake) top/bottom

Almost like the Mac mini

IMO it even looks more modern than what Sony has going with the PS5. Their current look is very pseudo futuristic

[sly elk]

IDK what to call the current look

I wanna say it's very not sony

but aside from the PS1 I am not sure any of the playstations have had what I would call a sony look to them

maybe the PS4 kinda

[modern iris]

The PS4 was suuuper sony

[sly elk]

yea

in fact it looks very much like a vaio they made

a could of trhem, in fact

[modern iris]

Yea i could even see them making a blue ray player look like that

Not familiar with what a vaio is

If that’s the same

[sly elk]

maybe it was this

sony used to make computers (they spun the brand off, I think, kinda?)

[modern iris]

Ah PC brand

Yea very similar design

Matte color and a strip, with sharp edges

[sly elk]

they had some designs that were very "sony"

for example

and that one's fairly mundane

[modern iris]

I feel like that’s very old school sony

But yea

[modern iris]

Why does that keyboard kinda go hard tho

[sly elk]

^ back in 2001 I was sooo close to getting one of those, ended up getting a powermac g4 instead lol

and of course the original vaio

my oldest bro had one of these when I was young lol. that monitor was the best >>

ah here much prettier picture that has more of that 90s vibe

and the goofy launcher lol

the monitor stand had a subwoofer and surprisingly good sound

there was also this vaio haha

https://www.crutchfield.com/S-9yc68xpZAC1/p_158VGXXL2/Sony-VAIO-VGX-XL2-Digital-Living-System.html

they also made what I would consider the first real ultrabook

the macbook air came a year or so later iirc, and well, the 2nd gen macbook air was way more practical, but.. yea that was one of the first super duper thin ones

[late basalt]

🤔 hm.... engraved leather bookmarks...... wonder how much people buy those for

christ, $10-40 on etsy

[sly elk]

the m2 ultra is large and pretty when delidded

that paste tho

[golden stream]

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/luciascarlet/status/1670163064052760577

† lucia scarlet 🩸 (@luciascarlet)

looking for a new keyboard
ask the seller if their keyboard is alps or cherry
she doesnt understand
pull out illustrated diagram explaining what is alps and what is cherry
she laughs and says "it's a good keyboard sir"
buys one
it's cherry

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[lethal dune]

huh

this is confusing

I used to have excellent connection

but now is poor on materia

[dreamy chasm]

You can't get new alps that isn't matias nowadays

[modern iris]

man ive been waiting for the wf1000xm5 to come out but there is never any news even though they should be coming out this month based on previous releases... and i dont have any earphones

[austere socket]

oh nice, it includes a coffee stand where you won't knock it over

[dull garnet]

Intel 😂

[fierce cedar]

https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14829317

[sly elk]

they were comparing the m2 ultra to a xeon

[dull garnet]

Looool

[sly elk]

ya know, Apple's future vs LEGACY X86

https://tenor.com/view/computer-whats-a-computer-tablet-gif-11564169

idk it's apple's offering for people who demand grandpa boxes

[wraith agate]

That's an interesting topic

[late basalt]

@cerulean talon finally had a chance to test the psu after getting home from work- fan's not seized, powers on just fine

the 20pin does have a 5VSB pin too, so after some testing, i could probably run some cooling fans off that in case i need to smack the big red button at some point

[sly elk]

teehee

[late basalt]

now i just need a day off to arrive to dedicate some time to actually dealing with wiring it up

[cerulean talon]

Welcome to lazy mode PSU's that we geeks use all the time.

[late basalt]

hey if it works it works

it's also so old it's not even worth money to recycle

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's basically reuse or trash it

also i think i figured out, for now at least, the settings i need for my goatskin leather

and they're horrifying

2000-4000mm/min (i think) speed for engraving, depending on how deep i want the black, and 4 passes at 100 to cut. leaves the edges super crispy though

[late basalt]

@cerulean talon just an example at those settings, though it's actually 3-4 passes at 20mm/min for cutting

so you can see just how crispy using this head for cutting the leather makes it

[cerulean talon]

Cwispy

[dreamy chasm]

Just ger lyperteks if you don't mind something somewhat bulky

[sly elk]

on hardforum

are these things still hella hype? lol

Sometimes I’ll pull out my Steam Deck, but it always seems so silly when I’ve got such a powerful pc right in front of me.

^ that's why my switch gathers dust. lol.

[lost python]

It's only good if you have a use for it obviously

[golden stream]

I prefer steam deck bc my job requires moving around quite a lot
Can't alway sit down and gamin

[sly elk]

although .. you play games at work? XD

[golden stream]

Nahhh
My toolshelf is 3000km away from me rn
Moved to another city for work bc that's also where my family invested in and I be there to make sure at least their first few phases are ok

But ye

Plan to introduce some games at work as a tool for therapy xD

[sharp star]

I've been staying home lately so I haven't gotten much out of my Deck

[sly elk]

ok I understand now

viy you have the perfect use case for portable stuff ^^

in that sense, I am glad these things exist 🙂

[lone zealot]

I use linux on my gaming PC, does that count as a steam deck?

[lost python]

no

[golden stream]

No

I have a fedora and a win10 both can game just fine

[lone zealot]

Yeah, sorry. I'm a bit tired and made a small joke

I'm using Fedora as well

Though I have this nasty habit of installing other distros

Waiting for the new nvidia drivers to come out. It has better wayland support

well, on the repos

[golden stream]

O ya howz nvidia and wayland rn?

[lone zealot]

Much improved. Plays very nicely with my 3060TI now. Been using Wayland instead of X11 since things seems to run better. 6 months ago it was pretty crap

Keep in mind that's with anything more recent than the 525 (515?) drivers

I think KDE 6 will push for better compatibility

Wayland will be the default for KDE 6

X11 is not going away anytime soon though

[golden stream]

Well, it's x11 lmao
For wayland, most of stuff are just fine w me (except Krita)
Tfw MHR only work on my gnome fedora wayland instead of x11 fedora????????

[lone zealot]

Could be a feature that wayland supports, but X11 does not

also, this is the lack of coffee, but MHR?

[golden stream]

Ye MHR

Tho AMD iGPU

If that context matters

[lone zealot]

Wasn't familiar with the term

[golden stream]

MHR = monster hunter rise

[lone zealot]

Ah, got it

bit odd though it runs like that

[golden stream]

Ya ik it's kinda weird

[dreamy chasm]

I know someone who goes on business trips every month or so

He ended up getting a steam deck and it's been perfect to bring along for those, apparently

[umbral moss]

use a heatsinking material under your leather or change to a pulsed laser to give your material time to cool down between ablation cycles

or I suppose you could try using a direct coolant but anything you spray on leather will likely be absorbed by it

[lone zealot]

hey, has anyone used NixOS?

[dreamy nacelle]

How is this ethical in any way shape or form

[inland mauve]

it's not

but Paypal has this weird position where it's a financial institution not beholden to any of the rules or standards of actual financial institutions

it's honestly about time that authorities start cracking down on Paypal

although in its defense, it did enable me to help out a friend in an emergency once where traditional banks would've made a huge hassle

[dreamy nacelle]

My original discord account was disabled cause they disputed something Ive been paying thru them regularly for over 2 years

[astral ridge]

This actually is normal across the payment industries.

The issue is that, unless you own a business, most people never had to deal with this and are not familiar with it at all.

[dreamy nacelle]

Make it make sense

[astral ridge]

High risk transactions will frequently have the funds held for a period of time if it’s Visa, MasterCard, a payment gateway, a bank - whoever

[dreamy nacelle]

How is it high risk if it hasn't been an issue ever

Like ever

Never ever ever

[astral ridge]

So, this is how it works - the basics

There is a system. A really f****g complex system that is shared between banks, credit card companies, gateways, merchants, basically everyone.

And it uses a huge amount of information to determine the risk of every single transaction.

[dreamy nacelle]

It has nothing to do with me when I have never charged anything back ever on any of my accounts.

[astral ridge]

It could get a high score for reasons that have nothing to do with you

[dreamy nacelle]

Then they should be able to cancel the dispute cause it doesn't exist and will never exist from my bank

[astral ridge]

It could have to do with the seller, or the product, or a random surge in fraud from an area you are in or a bank you use - it can be anything

[inland mauve]

that's the problem with these automated systems, there is zero transparency on them and they can seriously fuck you over if the numbers just line up wrongly

[astral ridge]

Oh yeah

[dreamy nacelle]

Why do I have to lose an account I've had since 2017 and contact with people I will never be able to find on a new account because of something that has nothing to do with me

[astral ridge]

My company gets the scores on all our sales. We get a numeric score from 0.1 to 99 (99 is the worst) to tell us what the likely hood of fraud is.

But they absolutely do not tell us WHY.

Unless it’s an address mismatch or a payment method not in the country of the shipment, etc

[inland mauve]

sadly because they don't care, the number of instances of fraud that the system prevents outweighs the false positives for them, and they don't give a shit about the impact of a false positive as long as it's not them

[astral ridge]

If we go ahead and ship to a really high number, the payment will likely be held for a while.

Well, not anymore, because our company is old. But that’s how it works for most.

[dreamy nacelle]

Sucks that its practically impossible to talk to an actual human at discord support as well

[modest moss]

have you tried forwarding that paypal response to discord and offering to retry the transaction?

[dreamy nacelle]

Yea but Clive bot is a moron

Clyde

W/e it's name is

[wraith agate]

Bitchass Clyde

[dreamy nacelle]

On god on god

[dull garnet]

lol, this is why I can't get my name set as my actual name on facebook

as i'm on my 3rd or 4th account now it used to be I could contact support, but not now

[dreamy nacelle]

Clyde is my only hope I'm so fucking doomed lads

[odd sand]

Yep, they will use the trappings of being a bank to their advantage as much as possible, but avoid responsibility and freeze funds with no recourse bc customer support is expensive and then say well they're not a bank so they don't have to help you etc.

It's why I use Paypal as little as possible and never leave money in there for long.

[uncut cape]

https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/19/hackers-threaten-to-leak-80gb-of-confidential-data-stolen-from-reddit/

Well apparently some people really didn't like the API changes

[dull garnet]

has anyone ever paid one of these ransoms

[lone zealot]

@dull garnet yup

[dull garnet]

example?

[lone zealot]

Can't give a concrete example since you don't hear about the ones that do pay in the news

The only reason why we are hearing about this ransom is because the hackers want to make it known

and its more of a demand than a ransom

[north stump]

here's one https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/chemical-distributor-pays-44-million-to-darkside-ransomware/
and more from this particular ransomware group: https://www.elliptic.co/blog/darkside-ransomware-has-netted-over-90-million-in-bitcoin

[lone zealot]

nice find there

blech. Put in a job application for a linux tech support role and the cheap bastards only want to pay 15 bucks an hour

[odd sand]

lmao they pay more than that to work fast food here

[lone zealot]

yeah, its a joke

[sly elk]

the part that really pisses me off about those sorta things where "we banned you for life for disputing us!" is you can't "make them whole" by offering to pay back the disputed amount

it's this unforgivable sin, according to most online businesses

wanna get a google or apple account banned for life? That's also how you do it

[glossy ravine]

"Just drop a grand on a GPU and you'll get a game you could of bought several times over with that money!"

[inland mauve]

they gave away Redfall with RTX 4000 series card

[odd sand]

...And sales plummeted until they cycled to a different bundled game /s

[lone zealot]

People are buying 4000 series cards?

[sly elk]

ahhh

man what game was it amd gave me, i forgot

it wasn't that one though

jedi survivor and ... geez steam how long are you gonna take to open

... steam wtf?!

'the last of us part 1' I think

i think i got that with the 6650xt i bought lol

jedi survivor with the 7800x3d

[glossy ravine]

I got a 6600 XT Graphics Card and it came with The Calisto Disappointment Protocol and Dead Island 2.

[odd sand]

At least you got 1 fun game

[glossy ravine]

Still haven't redeemed Dead Island 2

Because it was for the Epic Games Launcher.

TDP was steam

[modest moss]

if you won't ever use it... lol

[glossy ravine]

I've used the EGL like. 4 times.

And it was to claim free games

[modest moss]

I use it to play fortnite with my kid mostly

[glossy ravine]

EGL is just. Objectively worse than Steam

[modest moss]

it is, it's not awful though

[glossy ravine]

Nobody would bother with it outside of Fortnite and the free games they Hand out

[modest moss]

and free games are nice

[glossy ravine]

nods

I'll check my AMD rewards stuff. I don't think I've linked my account for getting the reward.

Maybe I could give it away to someone?

oh right.

That requires logging into said account.

[modest moss]

yeah I think they force you to keep it for yourself or I'd have asked for it

I remember when they used to just give out stand alone codes, those were the days

[sharp star]

at least it's not like that one U2 album that got auto-added to everyone's Apple accounts

otherwise my dormant EGS account would be flooded with free games I didn't ask for

[modest moss]

I have 250 titles in my EGS library, haven't paid for any

[dreamy chasm]

Hand me the code

[modest moss]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lines-kind-of-long-erin-naird-diana-silvers-space-force-get-in-line-gif-17476648

[sly elk]

they do give you a standalone code sometimes

[glossy ravine]

I only grab the games if I'm particularly interested in them.

Like the time they gave out Alien Isolation

[dreamy chasm]

I got Witcher 3 with my gtx 970 purchase 8 years ago

[austere socket]

does anyone have a thought in the back of their head like, "why start a subreddit blackout if you're going to end it before anything changes"

[dull garnet]

Except you have to install Nvidia experience

I remember when they just put games in the box

[austere socket]

did people just not care that much to begin with?

[paper tusk]

it might be extended a week but I haven't heard an update yet

[austere socket]

hm I don't think so, according to the r/ffxiv update from 5h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/14dxqu0/rffxiv_is_now_reopen_for_posting/

[dreamy chasm]

Its convinced me not to use the platform unless I really need to

So that's something

[inland mauve]

have you not seen how many people joined this discord just to complain

[austere socket]

I didn't see any of them, but it wouldn't surprise me

the average person isn't very good at protesting

[stray plover]

Help

[inland mauve]

amogus

[void dove]

all our operators are on the phone at the moment, please wait patiently, or leave a message and we'll get back to you.

[stray plover]

I recently got god of war Ragnarok and it came with two discs,a data disc,and a play disc,which disc am I supposed to put in first

[stray plover]

[void dove]

follow the instructions which id assume it came with?
or just, try one

[stray plover]

It's on german

[void dove]

just throw one in, and see what works

not like you can break it

[stray plover]

Alr thanks

[void dove]

that would be monumentally stupid

[stray plover]

You'd be surprised

[void dove]

if it did something like that

if the devs somehow programmed it in a way that putting the wrong disk in first, broke something, there would be a massive outrage and theyd be called clowns by the entire industry really.

[royal forge]

https://youtu.be/6oiIMUrbilw

Still blows my fuckin mind

How do you NOT document ur drives

[inland mauve]

we cannot fathom the inner machinations of Linus' gigabrain

[void dove]

its LTT 101, and why he's so despised by anyone in the tech space who actually knows what they are talking about.
they Insist on doing shit all themselves as jankily as possible because it gets clicks, instead of talking to and actually talking advice from professionals.

business as usual for LTT, nothing ever changes.

may cost tens of thousands of dollars, but most of their infrastructure implementations, are fucking atrocious, meant to appeal to your average employee at best buy and the geek squad 😛
so basically the shitty unknowledgeable L1 technicians, and average joe who knows a bit about tech.

[stray plover]

The data disc goes first

[royal forge]

The fact that they dont have a dedicated IT guy is...

Shocking

[frozen bolt]

When swapping out for a new CPU, do I do the BIOS update before or after the swap?

[sharp star]

I don't think it matters?

[frozen bolt]

okay cool ez money.

[sharp star]

wait, are you using BIOS flashback?

[frozen bolt]

I dunno man, my BIOS isn't updated though for a CPU I wanna upgrade to though.

[sharp star]

okay if you aren't or are not sure how to, do it before

[frozen bolt]

okay, ez money

[void dove]

always before

otherwise, you maybe left with a non-booting system, since they may have added support for the newer cpu in the update, and then have to put the old one back in (or use flashback if the mobo supports it)

they never remove CPU support, so doing it the other way around, makes no sense anyway.

[lost python]

never again will i get a fucking samsung monitor in my life. or TV

my odyssey G7 just sucks
great that, on paper, everything is nice but actually using this piece of shit. omg
not even just mad about the scanlines anymore but how sometimes it fails to wake up and just displays a black screen until i restart it
or how sometimes when games enter fullscreen mode, the monitor displays it as usual but then says it cant detect a signal and shuts off again
or how it takes 300 years to turn on
or how you cant enter the OSD to turn off the monitor because for some fucking reason it doesnt have a dedicated power button so after you disconnecting/powering off a source it gets stuck in a blackscreen and you cant access it until it finally complaints about having no signal

[potent arrow]

Why the fuck is Samsung's QA still this bad. I swear with annectodal evidence that the experience is literally 50:50 you get shit or you don't get shit

[sharp star]

Samsunk

[real edge]

I have a G7 and it works great, but that is a unicorn apparently.

[royal forge]

can you get warranty support?

tbh

anecdotally, i don't like samsung products

even their fridge and washin machines get fucky fucky

[lost python]

this is like my 3rd already

they all just fucking suck

[lost python]

samsung is ass
phones and TVs are also completely bloated with malware/ads

[royal forge]

agreed

but on the phone side

there's not many alternatives

there's like hua wei and xiao mi over here

[lost python]

oneplus is the only android one i like

[royal forge]

but ye, i assume you cant get a refund

[paper tusk]

I'm happy with my nokia but they are allergic to updating hardware to current (mid range) chipsets

special shoutout to tmobile's lack of 5g this long after the rollout. fuckers.

[dreamy chasm]

They do on some amd motherboards due to bios storage limitations

Usually cutting support for older chips and apus first

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/CoolBoxArt/status/1671151592501018630 iykyk

Cool Box Art (@CoolBoxArt)

Logitech F710 Wireless Gamepad / Hardware / Logitech / 2022

Likes

1160

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308

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 1:42 PM

[royal forge]

is that what they steered the submarine with?

[sharp star]

yes

everything I read about that sub is tragically funny

Its internet connection was Starlink, it was controlled using that, and it was bolted shut with no escape options. It cost $250k.

[modest moss]

is there anything about this that's better than either a DS4 or xbox one controller?

[royal forge]

if you like a

uhhh

[sharp star]

It’s been in production for, I wanna say 20 or so years?

[royal forge]

xbox controller colors

with uh

playstation design?

[sharp star]

Yeah Xbox face buttons but with a PlayStation layout

basically

[royal forge]

ngl

the new xbox controller

looks p snazzy

[sharp star]

I don’t think there’s anything inherently wrong with the first two but holy shit everything else

Especially when Musk has another PR nightmare on his hands

https://twitter.com/carlbeijer/status/1671155238450130945 OH MY GOD

Carl Beijer (@CarlBeijer)

oh my god

Likes

735

Retweets

130

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 1:57 PM

THIS IS THE WORST PART

[inland mauve]

living hell

HOW DID IT GET EVEN WORSE

[paper tusk]

https://pg.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B760M PG SONIC WiFi/Specification.asp#BIOS

guess an announce is soon for meteor lake or whatever the gen 13 update will be

[golden stream]

I nave Note10+ with constant SIM disconnect bug, but still use it bc best stylus-on-screen rn

[dull garnet]

Sony is like: games
Microsoft is like: here's another coloured controller

[dreamy chasm]

The f710 was shit, but it worked

I had the wired version and everything about it felt unnecessarily stiff

[sly elk]

TBH I think that controller predates the xbox

ah nvm that particular one came out in 2010

i thought they were using an f310 since it looked wired

[odd sand]

I thought the trip cost $250k not the sub itself?

I never bothered with offbrand controllers since most of them suck. So when I played FF11 I had a PS1 to USB adapter to use the original Dual Shock with my PC. And then later used the DS3 with the open source driver then later DS4windows of course.

[dull garnet]

i avoided pads until the wired 360 pad

shit was fire

[dreamy nacelle]

how is discord support so incompetent that the login for my account apparently isnt the same one to make a post on their support forum

[inland mauve]

so that if your Discord account gets stolen or you get locked out of it, you aren't also locked out of your ability to post on the support form

it's a fairly common approach

[dreamy nacelle]

im not using that login, im using the one for this account

which worked fine for logging in on browser

discord and paypal neck and neck for the shittiest support team in existence race

[glossy ravine]

Asus fucked up and with the latest Bios update for the ROG Ally, it makes games noticeably slower

But then again this is the same company that was cool with Motherboards/Chips Exploding.

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/asus-rog-ally-has-a-new-update-that-you-should-avoid-2181562/

[sharp star]

“For Those Who Dare”

[sly elk]

now whenever i see a sad smiley face I think of that ball from witch from mercury lol

[dreamy chasm]

The f310/f710 were kinda ass

But I got an 8bitdo recently and it's been a dream

Seems like one or the only offbrands that do it right

[sharp star]

https://twitter.com/Abstruse/status/1671277083203457025

Darryl Mott (@Abstruse)

Remember that investors are super-serious people who are really smart and know what they're doing. That's why Logitech's stock dropped because 15 years ago they made the controller a bunch of jackasses used to control their shit submarine that got themselves killed.

Twitter · Jun 20, 2023, 10:01 PM

[modest moss]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/logitech-says-ceo-stepping-down-leave-company-2023-06-13/

that's the actual reason

[wraith agate]

What's with the submarine tho?

[spring raven]

it broke

[wraith agate]

Yeah obviously, but I'm curious about the full story

[modest moss]

tl;dr some rich people in a shitty sub went to sightsee the titanic wreck and they're missing, probably dead

[wraith agate]

Well that is a bummer

[spring raven]

there was also apparently a former employee who tried to warn people that the sub was not suitable for traveling down as far as it went

[wraith agate]

Do we... do we tally that to Titanic deaths tho?

[spring raven]

note: emphasis is on the word former

[astral ridge]

Hopefully they make it somehow.

Especially the 19 year old

[dreamy chasm]

Was this just like

A rent a sub

Where you could take it where you want

[astral ridge]

No, it just went to the Titanic from what little I know