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potent arrow
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yeah..its not ideal

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I will personally silastic the shit out of my board so that vibration wont knock the connector out lmao

real edge
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I have a weird inverted case too :x

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well I got one of the best cables and I will not have to deal with adapters

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if I have to deal with burned shit at this point ill curse up a storm

wraith agate
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I want to

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I don't like white

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I can get these tho

cerulean talon
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They hadn’t, it’s fixed now

dull garnet
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you can run them all off of one header, though

wraith agate
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I see

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question

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should I instead replace the cooling for the CPU from a Deepcool AK500 to some AIO?

dull garnet
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i mean, a bad case does nobody any favours

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the ak500 is a decent cooler unless your cpu is an inferno

wraith agate
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I plan on getting an i7-13700k

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along with an RTX4090

real edge
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you do not need liquid cooling for that cpu

inland mauve
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I have a NH-D15 to cool that one

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I believe you don't even need to go that far even

wraith agate
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I see

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well

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I can afford the Deepcool AK500 but if you can get something cheaper, I gladly take it

potent arrow
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Ak500 is baseline, at least for me

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It works for pretty much everything

real edge
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the only question about the deepcool coolers is if the company will support them

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they're not noctua for example

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so we do not know how many mounting kits they will make to support the coolers

wraith agate
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is noctua good?

potent arrow
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Noctuas is the best.

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Atleast for their coolers

wraith agate
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hmm

potent arrow
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Idk about fans

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But they support mounting options till the end of time

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real edge
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deepcool so far has supported the latest platforms but we do not know for future ones as deepcool from what I know has always been an underdog brand and these deepcool coolers kinda brought them to the spotlight

potent arrow
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I got a few of their LT720 AIO coolers and they are pretty decent

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Probably using those over Corsair's Aio from here on out

real edge
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so far they have made free mounting kits for existing customers for LGA1700 and AM5

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but IDK how far they will take the freebies into the future

dull garnet
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noctua also cost double the competition

minor hollow
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I use a uh

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Mugen scythe fuma?

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Pretty solid cooler since my cpu is only slightly OCed

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My case is decked out in noctuas though lol

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I have like 7 of the 140mm noctuas

wraith agate
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I'm gonna get the 5 pack 140mm fans I posted earlier

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seems good enough but

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how am I supposed to configure them?

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I bet the top ones need to push and the front ones to pull?

dull garnet
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don't bother with top fans

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as for non PWM, i'm not sure. might be able to control via voltage on modern motherboards

hard drift
wraith agate
dull garnet
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depends on your case :p

wraith agate
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NZXT H7 Flow

dull garnet
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I use two 140mm in, one 120mm out

wraith agate
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tho ngl, I kinda want to put on top fans

dull garnet
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go ahead

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i just feel its pointless but sometimes you don't need a good reason to do something

wraith agate
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well tbh my reasoning is if I have to buy 3 front fans, then I'm gonna spend 30 EUR, that's 9 EUR less than the 5 pack

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though I think the front is probably only 2

dull garnet
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`FAN SUPPORT

Front:3 x 120mm / 3 x 140mm

Top:3 x 120mm / 2 x 140mm

Rear:1 x 120mm / 1 x 140mm`

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big if true

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140mm exhaust fan is a nice touch

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and triple 140mm

wraith agate
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if I saw it right, the rear fan is already there

dull garnet
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yeah but that will be trash

wraith agate
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so I guess I should just buy the 5 pack and place the two extra on top

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oh?

cerulean talon
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Fans that come with cases tend to be the cheapest garbage possible.

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Just enough to start grinding as they wear out their bearings in a month.

wraith agate
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makes sense

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so I should replace that with a good fan, of a 120mm or a 140?

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I think I should replace it with a 140 one

dull garnet
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bigger is always better for fans

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less rotations for the same cfm

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before you do buy those I would wait for someone to confirm that non PWM fans can be motherboard controlled

wraith agate
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but

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the fans I'm buying are PWM?

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or at least I want PWM fans

umbral moss
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just hard wire them to the +12V and connect the rpm reference header to the board so you can keep track of them

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

dull garnet
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if you mean these, then they are not PWM they are just the F14

wraith agate
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aaaah

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well

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do I need PWM?

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I kinda like having the option to have a software control the speed

dull garnet
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honestly not sure with modern motherboards

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for example i can choose the voltage i want fans to run at in my uefi

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amongst other settings

wraith agate
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I kinda want the fans to be reactive

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aka when the PC is idling don't run the fans at max speed

dull garnet
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yeah, mine are tied to cpu temp

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i use fan control

wraith agate
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yeah but what I mean is... to do this, I need PWM fans

cerulean talon
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Generally, yes.

wraith agate
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hmm

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I guess I bite the bullet and get these?

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only 3 tho

dull garnet
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no other options for 🇭🇺?

sly elk
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those are probably fine

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be quiet is a pretty reputable brand

wraith agate
livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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livid dune
sly elk
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they said the mac pro is usually in a proper rack but they're in the middle of a 'complicated move' so they had to make do with that stand setup lol

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that setup makes me feel poor 😄

dull garnet
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i gotta say

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"endgame" is the cringiest term

sly elk
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yup

deep sapphire
sly elk
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i like how when I search best buy for an arc 750 it shows me an xfx 6600 lol

random marlin
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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random marlin
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random access memory

sly elk
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hmmm a 6650xt might be the ticket. Those are $250 but they work well with hackintoshes and are fairly speedy for the price :3

deep sapphire
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AMD IS LITERALLY DEAD

hard drift
sly elk
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380 bucks on amazon with next day shipping for a 6750xt

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and it compares favorably with a 3080ti lmao

hard drift
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Lmao

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Nvidia sucks smugdori /j

sly elk
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who needs LEDs when your processor gives smoke signals to let you know there's a problem?

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
hard drift
deep sapphire
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LMAO

lament umbra
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is xivlauncher broken for anyone else or

hard drift
deep sapphire
modest moss
deep sapphire
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yeah works fine for me

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plogons dont work yet

hard drift
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People said they’re already back

deep sapphire
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huh

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oh they are back

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nice

hard drift
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Lol

modest moss
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yeah mine updated and work

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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hard drift
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this 4090 was a good decision dorime games feel so damn smooth

sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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sly elk
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next thing ya know bidori will be buying an i9 haha

hard drift
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nah, there's almost no reason for that

sly elk
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one amusing thing I thought after playing games on my 7800x3d the first time was the games felt smoother.....

hard drift
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yeah it really does change

burnt sequoia
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is anyone else having a problem with the ping and lagging?

lime wasp
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My PC might be fucked

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CPU temps went from normal to idling at 89* from one day to the next

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Repasting and a completing new AIO haven't done anything.

sly elk
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not using an a.. oh

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which cpu is it?

lime wasp
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13700K

sly elk
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those just run hot to begin with, what kinda aio are you using?

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i mean it's possible one went bad and the other is defective. OR the pump isn't spinning

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if you check the tubes going into the waterblock

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is one very hot and one cold?

lime wasp
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No

sly elk
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and the pump's spinning?

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any change in fan curves?

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what's the water temp like?

lime wasp
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can't tell

sly elk
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hmm

lime wasp
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motherboard is saying N/A for everything

sly elk
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even in the bios?

lime wasp
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Yes

sly elk
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GG. That alone sounds sus AF

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if your AIO has the pump in the cpu waterblock (they usually do) can you feel anything if you put your hand on it?

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I mean

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it's probably pumping .. otherwise there would probably be obvious temp differences in the tubes and/or it would overheat very fast idk

potent arrow
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Is the USB connection on the Aio connected?

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People miss that and it shows as N/A

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Also check if you forgot to remove the film under the cooler
Proper paste application
see if your CPU is bowed

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Couple of things

lime wasp
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Okay so on a lark I just tossed the Y-Splitter that I was using

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Pump came back on and kicked into IMMEDIATE overdrive

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Now BIOS says 37* at idle after a few minuted of this

potent arrow
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You put the Aio on a y-splitter?

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0_0

lime wasp
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13 Fans
1 Pump

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Some RGB strips

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Need 2 Fan Controllers and 1 RGB Controller

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3 USB ports needed, only have 2

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Hence, Y Splitter

potent arrow
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:/

wraith agate
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Do I need a fan controller if I want to control my fans via software?

lime wasp
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Depends on the fans

hard drift
lime wasp
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Fan Controllers are normally used for Fans that can't Daisy-Chain, or for Fans that have proprietary connectors like Corsair

modest moss
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<@&607647345936695316> check this

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!faq repair

opal pantherBOT
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hard drift
hard drift
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@deep sapphire now the amd graphics drivers bookmark is gone dorime

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the conversion is complete

deep sapphire
deep sapphire
hard drift
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now if only i could figure out how to get these damn features to work

modest moss
hard drift
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trying to use the ai video upscaling thing

deep sapphire
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I didn’t notice much of a difference but it sure heats up your room if you set the max quality

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Lmao

hard drift
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i don't think mine is working then because it's not heating up my room or anything lol

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😭 it only works on chrome or edge it says

hard drift
wintry drift
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it was supposed to reply to @sly elk but missclicked orz

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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cerulean talon
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Blessed kupo

wraith agate
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Y'know despite the fact I have a degree in computer building, I literally know nothing

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This is stressful

cerulean talon
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?

wraith agate
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I can't tell if I also need a fan controller or not

cerulean talon
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Depends on the number of fans generally

wraith agate
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I am thinking if I should go for 5 fans or just the necessary amount, in other words 3

cerulean talon
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Most motherboards will support 2-4 chassis fans, then 1 cpu fan

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I’d check your expected mobo manual and see how many fan headers they specifying

wraith agate
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This case has 1 rear fan, 2 front and 3 top

cerulean talon
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The exception is speciality run fans usually

wraith agate
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Hmm

cerulean talon
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Sigh, rgb, not run

wraith agate
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Let's see it

cerulean talon
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But yeah, I’d just check your mobo and see what it supports

sly walrus
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run fans

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RUN

wraith agate
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Okay so no idea

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Because every mobo that...

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Let me show

sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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sly elk
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ara ara

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you can also buy fan hubs or fan splitters

wraith agate
sly elk
wraith agate
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Fucking Amazon

sly elk
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that's a bummer 😦

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also you might be in for a little adventure if you're using a 13th gen chip on a z690. Should be ok though.

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man it seems like i picked a good time to buy my motherboard lol, the price on it went up $30 since

cerulean talon
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There ya go

sly elk
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yep yep

cerulean talon
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6 chassis fans so you’re fine

sly elk
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oooo la la

wraith agate
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Oh that's good

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I think I'm gonna max that out

cerulean talon
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Would have been faster, but I’m not at the desktop

wraith agate
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Eh it's fine

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Also maybe slight change

cerulean talon
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Google the manual and look for he fans

wraith agate
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Oki doki

cerulean talon
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S’what I did for the above

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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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sly elk
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mm the good news with msi boards is they're.. usually the same across the range lol

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that's a neat looking board >>

cerulean talon
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No idea, but the memes on their twitter might make me reconsider buying em in the future

sly elk
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also the page is exactly the same lol

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i never paid attention to how many my x670e carbon supports

cerulean talon
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Excellent

sly elk
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believe it or not

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I have one less fan connector

cerulean talon
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Cheap bastards, saving on one moles

sly elk
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ah, but to be fair, the z790s are like that as well. It seems MSI decided for the newest boards to cheap out and cheat us out of 1 precious fan connector haha

wraith agate
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Exactly the same

sly elk
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yea lol

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the difference between models is real small

cerulean talon
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I don’t use any chassis fans, so no idea

wraith agate
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I like chassis fans

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But not doing anything RGB anymore

sly elk
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also they have the same dragon logo for the boot logo :3

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it looks sick :3

cerulean talon
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Yeah, I avoid rgb as much as I can, and I’m in and out of my machines often enough there’s no reason to even leave sides on em

sly elk
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hahah

wraith agate
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This PC, I'm building. It's a workstation not a pageant show contestant

sly elk
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meanwhile I'm sitting here like

wraith agate
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I like those cables

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Very nice blue

sly elk
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ah thanks :3 I do like those cables

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as you can see I really like rgb though hahahahaha

cerulean talon
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I finally took one machine off the rack, immediately slapped a laptop in its place and ran a half dozen cables to it :S

sly elk
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and this is the price I pay for that X_X

cerulean talon
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I hadn’t noticed those controllers first, hahah

sly elk
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oh lemme warn ya one bad thing about MSI boards

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oh wait

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THAT ONE DOES IT NORMALLY WTF

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GOOD!

cerulean talon
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?

sly elk
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my x670e carbon has this stupid battery on a pigtail

cerulean talon
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Oh

wraith agate
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Well... tbf, my current board is MSI too... I can't really complain

sly elk
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but that z690 board uses a regular cr2032 mount

cerulean talon
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You can always complain, it’s the nature of anyone who works with tech

sly elk
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I came to this realization after I put the motherboard in my case and the cpu in the motherboard lmao

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oh well, it's fine

wraith agate
sly elk
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at least it's not permanently soldered on like those 90s boards

cerulean talon
sly elk
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I have never installed that software lmao

deep sapphire
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You can literally just use electrical tape on the leads

sly elk
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I am perfectly content with the little dragon cycling colors

wraith agate
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I uninstalled after I saw it doesn't work

sly elk
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and if it makes you feel any better

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the software asus uses for their motherboards is fucking shit

wraith agate
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I bet

cerulean talon
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Tbh, none of them are good

sly elk
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yea they're fucking terrible lmao

wraith agate
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The only good board is the one you build yourself

sly elk
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I say this and then I say, I find icue pretty ok, so I'm happy with all my corsair gear. But it does have bad tendencies too.

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like I use it to make hardware profiles and then save it to hardware and then I exit icue and disable its auto-startup thing

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because on x670e it causes the usb chain to restart every 2 hours or so

cerulean talon
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If I could get the pinouts and some Altium, it might be a fun project

sly elk
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and at some point, z390 had the same fucking issue

cerulean talon
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Could fix things I find lacking in standard mobos

sly elk
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idk what wicked bs corsair is doing

wraith agate
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I know people like to shit on MSI, I personally never had a problem

sly elk
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@cerulean talon the problem is that motherboards are (as far as I can tell) pretty low profit margin

wraith agate
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Then again my standards are low

sly elk
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aside from the whale models

cerulean talon
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I have problems with literally every manufacturer, even their high end models

sly elk
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and they are only profitable for like, a year max

cerulean talon
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And yeah, I’d agree

sly elk
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and I can't even.. IDK how to put this

wraith agate
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I think once I saw a mobo that was going for like $1700

sly elk
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but i paid extra for that carbon model and have no regrets >>

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I would never suggest anyone do the same when the tomahawk model is just as good

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but it had things I wanted

wraith agate
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My current is an MSI Z490?

cerulean talon
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I’ve gotten a few 800-900s and they’re not much better than the normal models

wraith agate
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It's carbon for sure

sly elk
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yea those $1700 ones are silly

cerulean talon
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They’re good for over clocking but that’s about it

sly elk
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for the most part once you get past the $500 boards there isn't a point

cerulean talon
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Mmhmm

wraith agate
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This torpedo looks good

sly elk
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the only point is "I want to do a custom loop and this has a monoblock" or "I want to OC the shit out of my cpu"

wraith agate
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Only €245

cerulean talon
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At this point if it’s not my desktop it gets whatever minimum board meets my cpu and pcie requirements

sly elk
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i wanted the little 7 segment display hehe

green dune
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is this tech support

sly elk
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because after everything i'd read about ddr5... and am5 for that matter.. I wanted to be able to know when POST was fucked

cerulean talon
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This is where we make poor decisions and occasionally help

sly elk
wraith agate
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Ngl, building my own PC... this isn't the first time, yet I'm still nervous

green dune
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i got this ipad im trying to factory reset

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and i connected it to my pc with itunes

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but every time i try to factory reset it i keep getting error 3169

cerulean talon
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Eh, at some point you end up doing it with socks on and on carpet and not caring about good policies

green dune
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i tried disabling my firewall like how the fixes online said but nothing helped

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i dont wanna give up on this ipad cus it was expensive

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also i think the battery might be broken cus it dies instantly when not charging

cerulean talon
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Apple should be able to reset it for you at a store tbh

green dune
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will it cost me?

sly elk
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also when you did a factory reset

cerulean talon
# green dune will it cost me?

Probally, but if the battery is shot they should be able to help you as well, that will cost to replace tho for sure unless it’s got AppleCare, which it probably doesn’t

sly elk
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did you do the 'DFU' variety

wraith agate
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It's just

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This is a lot of mental undertaking

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Getting the good components and all

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I don't wanna shaft myself

cerulean talon
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Ah

wraith agate
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I don't want to overspend nor get trash

sly elk
green dune
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i dont have a mac

sly elk
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the funny thing with the current gen stuff is there's a lot of good options

cerulean talon
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This is the easy bit, the annoying bit comes later when something doesn’t work perfectly, and you’re tearing out (in my case) your non-existent hair

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It’s gotten way harder to seriously screw a build up imo in terms of parts as qvl has gotten way better

green dune
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This is the screen it’s on

sly elk
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the board you were looking at is most likely going to be pretty good. The only caveat again is putting a 13th gen intel chip on a z690 probably means you need to do a firmware update first.

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so I'd recommend looking up people's experience with that

cerulean talon
wraith agate
green dune
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Cus it doesn’t turn on

wraith agate
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Perhaps it might be cheaper

sly elk
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also you don't need a mac to do that

green dune
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It’s stuck on the apple logo and it keeps resetting

sly elk
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you can check what the z790 tomahawk costs...

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idk 🙂

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out here, z690s are usually cheaper

wraith agate
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Shockingly newer stuff seems cheaper

cerulean talon
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A reset likely won’t fix that, but yeah, you should be able to use any iTunes, if it’s got an error though, we’re not much Apple experts

sly elk
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oh that is surprising

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but that's good!

cerulean talon
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Not super surprising, older models tend to only have higher end boards available, then some super cheap option

wraith agate
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Seems to be same?

sly elk
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also, the z690 torpedo is on the list of boards that have bios flashback

cerulean talon
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And that’s only for a gen or two

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Bios flashback is ❤️

wraith agate
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What is bios flashback

sly elk
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i bet it comes with a usb stick too lol

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bios flashback lets you update the bios without a cpu attached

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which you'll need to do before you stick a 13th gen on a z690

wraith agate
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Aaah

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Unless I buy a 790?

cerulean talon
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Emergency recovery mode for flashing the bios, and more importantly, rolling it back versions of you need to

sly elk
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right lol

cerulean talon
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Most 690s will probally support 13gen at this point

sly elk
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the 790s you're looking at there are cheaper models but

cerulean talon
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It’s been long enough stocks probally rotates

wraith agate
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Oh this looks good

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Cheaper too

cerulean talon
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Need to understand why it’s cheaper tbh

deep sapphire
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That’s the board I have

wraith agate
cerulean talon
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Could be power phases or something useless for your use case, which makes it a good option

sly elk
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they are different product lines

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for msi, carbon > edge > tomahawk/torpedo > pro

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for asus, maximus > strix > tuf > prime

wraith agate
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I can't tell

sly elk
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there are higher models than those

wraith agate
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This model

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It's pretty damn good

sly elk
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so the more expensive boards add things like more usb, faster ethernet, sometimes better VRMs, sometimes better sound chips, sometimes other amenities

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if you have 2 boards in mind we can probably pretty easily tell you if one's a much better one than another

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but again, none of these are bad boards

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the prime and tuf are probably asus' most popular boards

wraith agate
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So between this last board I posted and the torpedo

#

Which comes out better?

sly elk
#

the z790-p prime will be easier to get going out of the box since it has 13th gen intel support out-of-the-box

wraith agate
#

It seems like the prime has less fan slots?

#

Anyone at PC?

#

Trying to find mobo manuals on phone is pain

sly elk
#

6 total

#

1 x 4-pin CPU Fan header
1 x 4-pin CPU OPT Fan header
1 x 4-pin AIO Pump header
3 x 4-pin Chassis Fan headers

cerulean talon
#

So 4 usable for chassis

wraith agate
#

Hmm

cerulean talon
#

Air pump headers can sometimes but they used to get whiny at low rpm’s

#

Ffs Apple, you choose the weirdest things to correct

sly elk
#

the msi board has the pre-attached i/o shield if that matters 😄 it also has different i/o connectivity in general

#

for example

#

the asus board has a ps/2 plug for oldschool keyboards/mice if you're into that.... the msi does not

wraith agate
#

Well I'm not really

sly elk
#

they both have the same amount of usb ports

wraith agate
#

I ponder wonder tho

sly elk
#

the msi has better audio connectivity but this may not matter much lol

wraith agate
#

Legacy can't be bad

sly elk
#

oh right

wraith agate
sly elk
#

you might have better luck with DDR5 on z790

wraith agate
#

Yeah that seems like a winner

#

What MHz I should aim for on the RAM again?

cerulean talon
#

Whatever’s on the qvl

wraith agate
#

I found a good corsair kit of 2x32gb but it was 5400mhz iirc

cerulean talon
#

Going away from the qvl means you will be playing far more dangerous games

sly elk
#

-shrug- it's intel 😄 so it won't have much of an impact

#

(I say this while i'm sitting here running my 4x16 at 3600mhz on a ryzen chip haha)

cerulean talon
#

Within the qvl, size, then speed as high as you can get usually

#

Mines off qvl and I lost 2200mhz or so for it xD

sly elk
#

sadly the QVL doesn't have a notes section so it doesn't always tell the whole story x_X

#

like mine's on qvl and isn't stable at the expo speed haha

cerulean talon
#

6k to 3800-4k on a good day

wraith agate
#

I guess 5400 should be good enough

sly elk
#

so in an ideal world

#

6000mhz is good...

#

I doubt anyone can really tell the difference haha

cerulean talon
#

6ghz is high even for ddr5

wraith agate
#

Hold on let me find that item again

sly elk
#

FWIW

wraith agate
#

Good lord I should start saving items in wishlist

cerulean talon
#

I mean, I can, but only when I’m doing stupid stuff :p

sly elk
#

the 13700k supports DDR5-5600

#

let's look at the QVL 😄

cerulean talon
#

Usually databases are where I see that speed bump helping

wraith agate
#

This is the one I picked

#

Ignore the temporarily out of stock

sly elk
wraith agate
#

It's temporary

#

Hopefully

sly elk
#

amykah look for the model # in the description

wraith agate
#

Model number?

cerulean talon
#

On the ram

sly elk
#

i'm guessing it is ‎CMK64GX5M2B5200C40

wraith agate
#

In the RAM?

sly elk
#

so that board supports 3 kinds of corsair 2x32gb

#

CMT64GX5M2X5600C40 and CMT64GX5M2B5600C40 and CMT64GX5M2B5200C40

wraith agate
#

This doesn't seem right

sly elk
#

how weird

cerulean talon
#

What’s wrong with a 5.2ghz cell ram chip :3

sly elk
#

amykah look in that section

wraith agate
sly elk
#

there we go

wraith agate
#

This the model number

sly elk
#

the annoying part about the qualified vendor list thing is that in this case

#

asus is giving me model numbers that start with CMT, which is corsair's dominator ram

#

but CMK (vengeance, non-rgb) and CMH (vengeance, rgb) are fine

#

i'd love to say they're the same thing but -shrug- who knows really

#

what other options do you have for 2x32gb, amykah?

cerulean talon
#

It comes down to the die classification and the manuf

wraith agate
#

Let's see

sly elk
#

yes, and the 5200mhz is micron ram

#

at least according to the asus list

wraith agate
#

Crucial

sly elk
#

in reality it might not be but it probably is

wraith agate
#

Kingston

sly elk
#

from what I've seen with corsair, low 5000s is micron, mid 5000s is samsung, anything 6000+ is sk hynix

wraith agate
#

Oh g.skill trident

#

It has 6000

sly elk
#

g-skill is good

wraith agate
#

It doesn't say 6000 what tho

sly elk
#

crucial is great but I don't think they sell anything fancy anymore 😦

#

what model # is it?

#

can get more info ^^

wraith agate
#

My problem is this thing costs nearly €100 more and I really can't afford that

#

I need to keep some wiggle room for in case they run out of GPUs

#

Well

#

The one MSI gpu that costs 1700EUR

#

Leaving me with the 1800 one

sly elk
#

try looking for 2x32gb ddr5-5600 specifically?

#

if you wanna save money on ram

#

I have a suggestion

#

there are "D4" models of a lot of motherboards

wraith agate
#

I know

sly elk
#

ah ok lol

wraith agate
#

But I wanna get a DDR5

sly elk
#

just saying, ddr4 ram out here is a lot cheaper >>

#

fair

wraith agate
#

I'm trying to partly futureproof

cerulean talon
#

Amazon de right?

wraith agate
#

Hmm... I think I can manage €30 extra

wraith agate
#

I might have to use honey to get cheaper

cerulean talon
#

Not a terrible idea, honey occasionally finds a decent deal

wraith agate
#

Yeah but also isn't it a data harvesting thing?

cerulean talon
#

Of course

#

Affiliate links as well haha

wraith agate
#

Amazing...

#

Well

#

Not like they can't sell my data anyway

#

Might as well confuse china by buying an expensive PC, 12 cans of monster java and a 20 inch horse dildo lmao

sly walrus
#

depends on how hungary import costs make you

wraith agate
#

From Germany to Hungary there's zero import costs

#

As long as the item is coming from Germany

cerulean talon
#

That’s handy

wraith agate
#

For once in a goddamn while, my country wasn't moron and joined the EU

sly elk
#

chce midou

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
はみこ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78785775
wraith agate
#

Das cute

cerulean talon
#

Very

sly elk
#

yas

wraith agate
sly elk
#

suddenly i wanna play trackmania

wraith agate
#

I should sleep

sly elk
#

shit it takes forever to start trackmania lol

#

gn amykah

wraith agate
#

I'm gonna slepe

cerulean talon
#

Sleep well

green dune
#

ITS ALIVE

cerulean talon
#

Very nice

green dune
#

now i can have another ipad

#

That picture was too revealing

#

My bad

sly elk
#

idk what it is

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
むんもっしゅ | https://twitter.com/MunMosh/status/1569276319200083970
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ツユハ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93404777
dull garnet
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
柚杞ゆぎな | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89551702
sly elk
#

i wonder if people who use the computer with a 4k TV as their monitor have to deal with weird overscan/underscan settings

livid dune
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
白雲クロム | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90604476
real bone
sly elk
#

lol

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
れつと | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83355104
sly elk
#

ooooo

livid dune
sly elk
#

mmm

#

that's a sick looking gpu for <$300

#

the oem 7600 is cute though

#

i like how it still has the racing stripe haha

odd sand
#

How did they think they would get away with this? Of course ppl were gonna find it strange China suddenly announced their own CPU like 5x faster than any previous one. And if there was a lot of interest, how would they explain when they ran out?

inland mauve
#

hey you gotta do something now ASML can't sell silicon printers to your country anymore

#

and the last time you tried to reverse-engineer one, it stopped working when you put it back together KEKW

#

I love how this company just cut out the middle man and went straight to reselling full-blown CPUs

sly elk
#

The question is where are they getting them

#

Or was Intel stupid enough to build a factory there

real bone
sly elk
#

And they got the McDonnell Douglas treatment

inland mauve
#

they TRIED to reverse-engineer a lithographic machine from ASML

#

but when they put it back together, it no longer worked

#

the technology of ASML is so advanced that you cannot operate or maintain their machines without specialists trained by ASML

#

like, you have to understand how far ahead of the curve ASML is

#

you would not be able to catch up to their current level of technology even if you tried to

real bone
inland mauve
#

you would have to predict which technology that can be used for lithography will be successful five years from now, and start researching that today

#

so that in five years you might compete with the newest generation of lithography machines made by ASML, because they are not going to stop either

real bone
#

its not a if question its a when.
MIT still has its final trumpcard which is 1mn chips but its not finished yet

sly elk
#

Are you subscribing to that fantasy theory

#

That eventually they'll surpass us

#

And the whole world will leave us behind

real bone
sly elk
#

Touché

real bone
#

not yet

sly elk
#

Having a brain here isn't considered fashionable

inland mauve
#

China had to resort to corporate espionage to learn anything from ASML, they had a huge security incident a few years ago where a Chinese spy was employed by them in Veldhoven and managed to exfiltrate important IP

sly elk
#

Like holy fuck some of the viterol on the internet I see about tech layoffs lol

inland mauve
#

but since then ASML has upscaled their cyber security department by like 100 times or so

inland mauve
sly elk
real bone
sly elk
#

But that goes off on a very questionable tangent

#

But the quantity thing is still a thing

#

Even if I wrote off half of Chinese scientists as frauds

#

They would still have more legit scientists

real bone
#

where should be investing more are not

inland mauve
#

I'm not saying that China can't invent their own method of lithography

sly elk
#

Well the problem is

inland mauve
#

I'm saying that if you want to catch up to ASML it's not enough to reverse-engineer their current technology

sly elk
#

When you educate people they tend do get uppity and stop respecting authority

inland mauve
#

you have to figure out what the next big thing is going to be in five years, and start developing that now

#

and then maybe you can compete with ASML in five years

sly elk
#

At least in a 'western' system

#

I'm not sure if China has the same problem with educated proles

real bone
#

The original plan was to have AI help out match the quanity of ppl they use however war has caused us to spend more on ammo weapons bases and geopolitics than technology

sly elk
#

So some states try hard to push back on easy cheap access to good education

#

Still

inland mauve
#

Intel just kind of "lost" the current lithography competition to ASML by betting on the wrong technology

sly elk
#

I think there's some technological power in being educated And being a wise ass lmao

inland mauve
#

they can enter back into the race, but again, to compete with ASML in five years they have to start developing the next big tech for lithography today

#

and I dunno if Intel is willing to take that risk

real bone
livid dune
inland mauve
#

since the Netherlands is on good terms with the USA and even listened to their request to forbid ASML from selling machines to China

real bone
#

sell of machines that produce modern chips not all machines

inland mauve
#

they already weren't allowed to sell the latest generation of machines, now they also cannot sell machines from older generations

real bone
#

Japan is actually going harder on them cause it already losing the car race if they lose chips as well theyll go way down in the asian production list

#

and logistics costs to ship from across the globe are high

#

but we see how it goes
its a fun soap opera to me

#

ppl dont get along and in the longrun it only fks up humanity we can keep this dumb competitions only X times before resources run low and extreme weather starts rolling back the effects of pollution

lost python
#

Damn i regret not putting some into AMD

#

They were at like 65€ when i considered

real edge
#

amd has been a good buy since ryzen 1

#

even regular people like me knew that they were gonna make a comeback after zen+ launched

real bone
#

you can still buy other things

real edge
#

I meant stock-wise

real bone
#

yea still plenty of other companies

#

id even consider Micron because even tho they took a blow the microchip market will still go up

graceful pine
#

It’s their best defense against mainland aggression

real bone
#

that monopoly will change regardless even if absolutely nothing happens.
All these production facilities from both sides are not built due to increased demand but to the use from ordering from there heck even Taiwan is building its new facilities outside

umbral moss
#

the way you handle electron sensing states needs to change for "transistors" to be a thing going forward

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
Ao | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86996647
royal forge
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
月宮サラ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98742675
royal forge
#

Behold

#

Purple

#

Pink?

modest moss
#

Yes both

royal forge
#

@cerulean talon resident purple expert, please give verdict

cerulean talon
#

More pink than purple, though the clothing is 10/10 for purpleness.

royal forge
#

True true.

modest moss
#

It's one that we can both enjoy uwucarby

cerulean talon
dull garnet
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
芯桜 雪姫乃 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102852938
paper tusk
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
甘城なつき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95074685
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
冴之木瑞穂 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95839500
cerulean talon
#

Oooh. Cute!

random marlin
#

!hank

latent grotto
#

I swear half the cat girls are just vtubers but they got cat ears

paper tusk
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
フィア | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/101967311
latent grotto
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
とうち | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/100236809
latent grotto
#

THATS JUST MEL AS A CATGIRL

sly elk
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ヨルモン | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96023114
sly elk
#

yea but for 250 you can get a 6650xt which is better on paper :3

#

or $220 if you are willing to go to microcenter lol

#

but here I am talking about an AMD GPU being a better deal, to someone that just got burned by a defective AMD GPU

#

i could see someone looking at the $250 6650xt and then seeing the $315 3060ti and going "fuck it, $65 is worth not dealing with that shit"

hard drift
hard drift
minor hollow
hard drift
minor hollow
#

Or be sacrificed on the altar of Logitech wirelss keyboard boxes

deep sapphire
#

and they have literally no phone number

minor hollow
#

Wat happen

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
犬野 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92128594
dull garnet
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
Mauve | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93639027
deep sapphire
wraith agate
cerulean talon
#

10/10 purple. Excellent choice.

paper tusk
#

have to say I like the acer i got (set to 120hz)

#

watching a doom strim looks weird though (from the overdrive setting)

#

because of flashing in game not translating well

deep sapphire
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
えにゃ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98547481
deep sapphire
#

Nice

fair parcel
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
遊丸 | https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/56469697
fair parcel
random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
maruma | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/78293758
cerulean talon
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ぽえ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89162213
wraith agate
#

Sorry but I need this

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
青紫 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99133783
wraith agate
#

Adorable

cerulean talon
#

Lacks purple though.

#

I'm now legitimately weighing purchases on % of purple as part of the coloration.

#

I dunno what's happened to my life.

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ツユハ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96250309
wraith agate
#

Buy an eggplant

#

They're 99% purple

cerulean talon
#

Nah, I'm not a fan of them texturally.

#

I am looking into some purple shirts soon tho for my first wardrobe mixup in... a decade or so?

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
あみゆ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/84243685
hard drift
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
Nami | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/86350136
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
福木とくわ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94389783
sly elk
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
雨音くるみ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/76002743
cerulean talon
#

Damn kupo, gimme more purple

sly elk
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
もうボコボコだよ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97197226
cerulean talon
#

I have a problem, and it’s a lack of purple cat girls, I admit to this uwucarby

sly elk
#

i missed out on the $200 arc a750 which is for the better because it probably wouldn't run half the driving games I'd wanna play on there anyway

#

but otherwise it feels like an upsale ladder

#

eh that $180 deal on newegg for the 6600 eagle is probably the ticket

cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ほし | https://twitter.com/hoshi_u3/status/1496043743425994752
cerulean talon
#

Okay, cute, but not purple

paper tusk
#

hmm

#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
frisco | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98197133
cerulean talon
#

Purple!

royal forge
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
pc_yukie | https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1091706889010765824
sly elk
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
白月いと | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/94288092
sly elk
#

i didn't buy it

#

still thinking about it haha

#

I was feeling a bit guilty and tbh it's probably a dumb waste of $$ but my total expense on computer hardware for this 'upgrade cycle' if you will is so far $1200, that's not bad.

dull garnet
#

Long term Nvidia is the best use of your dollars

sly elk
#

i have a 3080ti in my main rig 😄

#

this is going to be for my old rig aka the racing game machine

dull garnet
#

You mentioned a 3060 ti before, can't go wrong with that

sly elk
#

those are like $350 though

#

there are some $250-ish 3060s

#

which, afaict a 6650xt will be a better card...

#

now whether it holds its value or not is a different story

dull garnet
#

Well traditionally that is a silly thing to consider but these are unprecedented times

sly elk
#

hmm

#

ehhhh

#

if I were concerned about resell

#

i'd buy macs

dull garnet
#

I honestly think I could sell my m1 air for more than I paid for it lol

#

(bought used)

sly elk
#

yep

#

Based on my experience searching craigslist and ebay, I believe gaming PCs are worth more in parts than they are an assembled unit

royal forge
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
タン塩 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97993202
livid dune
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
鈴崎 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92510405
royal forge
#

Hey @real edge The difference between M27Q-P and M27Q seems to be just speakers?

real edge
#

idk I just watch the reviews

royal forge
#

ahh

#

gotcha

real edge
#

I linked video reviews so you can watch those for the differences

royal forge
#

ahhh

#

gotcha2

#

im just eyein up a second monitor now

#

hahaha

real edge
sly elk
#

:3

#

who uses monitor speakers?

royal forge
#

Me who forgot to bring his old speakers

modern iris
#

so my dad asks me, "How could you possibly spend 4000 on a computer?" cuz other day we were talking about selling my side by side heald hauler.. and i tell him, "the 4090 ti for example.."

#

nah if i i sold it i would take 2000, upgrade my ram to cl 14 4200 mhz, add a 2 tb nvme, and replace my 6600 xt with like a 3080 or something and a nice monitor

#

or maybe get like a 6800 xt

dull garnet
#

you don't want a 6800 xt

lost python
#

Yeah for the same money as a 3080 you could get a 6950xt instead kizunasmug

dull garnet
#

the power draw on all these cards is nuts 💀

dull garnet
#

i'd like to stay 200w and under

#

if 4070 memory wasn't gimped then maybe i'd go for that

hard drift
#

that's why intel is getting into the market dorime

hard drift
deep sapphire
#

Playing elden ring at 140 FPS maxed out and 4090 only running at 50c

lost python
#

you can go above 60fps in elden ring?

deep sapphire
#

I played around with it for hours last night and found out just turning RT off and camera blur skyrockets the FPS up

#

Seemed like camera blur did the most lmao really strange

#

I couldn’t get it to reliably go above 80 before I turned it off and my hardware utilization was poor

dull garnet
#

tfw devs don't code games to utilise my 4090

odd sand
#

And not bc they look like Cyberpunk, they look like a 10yo game

random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
ろゐず | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98462404
hard drift
hard drift
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
つゑふ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/76907229
random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
eating | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/88346062
cerulean talon
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
RONOPU | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91378653
random marlin
#

!hank

opal pantherBOT
#
bingyam | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90024093
hard drift
#

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lost python
#

Oh boi, can't wait for those to fall apart

sly elk
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i saw a really good deal on the 34" oled screen

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oh dang I have the offer too

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899 after coupon but then in my amex offers I have $120 cashback if I spend $599 at dell

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then there's rakuten cashback.....

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that could be a nice deal

cerulean talon
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VCP code 0xc0 (Display usage time ): Usage time (hours) = 41077 (0x00a075) mh=0x00, ml=0x00, sh=0xa0, sl=0x7 This monitor has seen some stuff. 😄

hard drift
sly elk
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me toooooo

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but important note here

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it's not made by powercolor, and it has a 3 year warranty

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honestly maybe i should've bought the msi model instead

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the oldest gpu I have in operation is a gtx660 that was made by msi lol

hard drift
sly elk
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i do have a radeon 9600xt laying around in my old g5

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oh really

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I thought it was only the powercolor >>

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what was the other one?

hard drift
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And burned by the “holy grail” of tech shops

hard drift
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I had to rma a board 3 times with them

sly elk
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oof

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which gpu was it?

hard drift
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5700xt lol

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But my brother has it working just fine now smh

hard drift
sly elk
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asus ugly rog eye

inland mauve
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oh man this computer is going to be an issue in the summer

sly elk
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why? runs hot?

inland mauve
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yeah

sly elk
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hehe

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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汰 | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87752121
cerulean talon
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Purple!

sly elk
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oo a purple one!

sly elk
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if anyone wants a single cheap rgb fan, there ya go, $7.99 when you use the $10 coupon

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sadly the coupon only works once lol

royal forge
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Hey @cerulean talon do you know much about stuff like VN software?

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Not VM

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Visual novel stuff

cerulean talon
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Some, not a ton.

royal forge
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Is there software that lets you play images, like a slideshow, as well as loop videos?

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Videos with audio

cerulean talon
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Not that I'm aware of, the cross over tends to be rare, as they are usually one or the other.

royal forge
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Ah

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Thats a bothet

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Bother*

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Can I do that in like... uh

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Unity?

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Ya familiar with it?

cerulean talon
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Not usually? You'll need video codecs, and unity's not great at that.

sly elk
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I also bought a set of these, in case anyone's wondering how they perform, I'll find out tomorrow i guess XD

royal forge
cerulean talon
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Ye, you might be able to hack something together w/ python or something using readymade libraries, but there's not much on PC for that in particular. You might find a web-app or something that could do it.

modest moss
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just be fucking janky and dump images, audio, video into powerpoint haha

royal forge
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Aite. Thankies

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I was hoping for a more "drag and drop" solution

modest moss
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you could learn unreal editor and do it

royal forge
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Hahahaha

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Pass.

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I've fuckef around with unreal b4

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Ptsd

modest moss
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I mean, how much stuff do you need put together?

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@tame fulcrum has played with it, he might help

paper tusk
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hopefully works good since I'm not happy with id cooling fans (they should be fine for cpu fan though)

sharp star
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couldn't have been easy

sly elk
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I thought long and hard for a moment about just forking up the $65 or so for a kit of 3 corsair ML120s lol

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but I really don't want to spend any more money on that computer

odd sand
sly elk
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dude wtf

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WHY

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it's the stuff of nightmares

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"let's pick an absolute bear of an operating system"

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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フ二ィ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/80460751
sly elk
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pretty

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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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SOLCHA | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/98107479
royal forge
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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柚杞ゆぎな | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89551702
sly elk
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i like how it almost flows together

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though I'm still weirded out at the funky FOV these games get

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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soyubee | https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1327841357038186498
odd sand
real edge
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LOL

livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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soyubee | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/84907948
livid dune
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huh, the same girl

sly elk
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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えりんぎ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/89301670
sly elk
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yay!

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If it makes ya feel any better, trying to get Apple's Photos app on MacOS to download an entire iCloud library within any reasonable amount of time is impossible

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it took me over a month to get it to download my bro's 1TB of crap

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wow lol

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i've never seen a monitor like that before

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yo dawg i heard you like displays so I put a display on your display so you can see what your display is doing

random marlin
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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5ma.(ごま) | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/95468962
random marlin
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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なるみる | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/91257373
sly elk
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amazon.. no. I don't want to hear or think about shopping for ram ever again

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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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甘城なつき | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/73891141
livid dune
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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TIKA | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/97901079
cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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ゆきうなぎ | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/81115452
real edge
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-more power hungry future cpus

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my brother in christ intel is already power hungry, and future cpus are gonna need even more?

cerulean talon
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!hank

opal pantherBOT
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天城しの | https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/96867351
cerulean talon
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!hank